[04:15] <AlanBell> morning
[04:38] <MartijnVdS> morning AlanBell
[04:38] <MartijnVdS> you're up early
[06:56] <MooDoo> morning
[06:57] <MartijnVdS> \o
[07:51] <diplo> Morning all
[07:51] <MooDoo> morning diplo
[07:52] <diplo> How're we all this fine lovely morning
[07:53] <MooDoo> diplo: groovy baby
[07:53] <diplo> heh
[08:06] <hoover> good morning all
[08:09] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[08:13] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:16] <christel> morning boys and girls
[08:17] <popey> ah christel
[08:17] <MooDoo> morning christel again
[08:17] <bigcalm> Hola christel
[08:20] <brobostigon> morning christel, MooDoo popey and bigcalm
[08:22] <hoover> Hey biggie
[08:26] <bigcalm> Hi hoover
[08:34] <venkat> Hi
[08:36] <MooDoo> hi venkat
[08:37] <venkat> could you help me  i have  dout in ubuntu
[08:38] <MooDoo> venkat: just ask away, if anyone can help you they will
[08:39] <venkat> my boot partation full
[08:39] <popey> thats unfortunate
[08:39] <popey> you could boot to recovery mode (or use a live cd) and remove some older kernels that are no longer needed
[08:40] <venkat> the partation 100% use
[08:41] <brobostigon> kernels can be reletivly big, so would empty some space, allowing it to boot, and freeing up more space.
[08:42] <popey> I would boot to a live cd, mount the partition and get rid of some very old kernels
[08:42] <popey> well, i wouldn't be in this position in the first place, but hey ho
[08:43] <venkat> which kernel i have to remove  now am using 3.5 kernel
[08:43] <popey> you would need to boot to a live cd, and see what kernels are installed
[08:43] <popey> I can't see what's on your disk from here
[08:43] <brobostigon> telepathy. :)
[08:44] <directhex> venkat, ubuntu updates its kernels very often, and most of the time, it installs the new one alongside the old one
[08:44] <directhex> venkat, this means you likely have lots of kernels installed, all 3.5 but with minor version differences, filling /boot
[08:44] <directhex> venkat, you basically need to get at your disk and uninstall all but the newest one
[08:45] <venkat> no i have some applications are running that system
[08:47] <directhex> venkat, is the system currently booted and working?
[08:48] <JamesTait> Good morning all, happy Sugar Cookie Day! :-D
[08:48] <directhex> where's my cookie then?
[08:48] <MooDoo> howdy jame
[08:48] <MooDoo> howdy JamesTait
[08:48] <hoover> Hi James
[08:48] <JamesTait> MooDoo, hoover, o/
[08:49] <JamesTait> directhex, I don't know, where did you put it? ;)
[08:50] <JamesTait> MooDoo, I guess I've become like czajkowski (cz-tab), only jame-tab?
[08:50] <MooDoo> JamesTait: ahem ;)
[08:51] <JamesTait> Heheh. :)
[08:51] <venkat> please  tel me   what i have to do (boot partation full )
[08:51] <czajkowski> eh
[08:51] <MooDoo> czajkowski: talking about you not to you :p ;)
[08:52] <czajkowski> oi
[08:52] <MooDoo> <3
[08:52] <popey> venkat: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171209/my-boot-partition-hit-100-and-now-i-cant-upgrade-cant-remove-old-kernels-to
[08:52] <JamesTait> MooDoo, funny(-ish) story. When I joined canonical I used the same nick on the internal IRC server as everywhere else - jamestait.  But in the U1 channels, James Henstridge was already around - jamesh.  The presence of two jameses in the channel was awkward for tab completion.
[08:53] <JamesTait> So I changed my nick to jayteeuk. :)
[08:53] <czajkowski> ahhhhhhhhh
[08:53] <popey> also, jnick_tait confuses me
[08:53] <czajkowski> that explains that
[08:53] <JamesTait> popey, it confused me when I got his plane ticket once.
[08:53] <JamesTait> Speak of the devil!
[08:53] <JamesTait> jnick_tait, o/
[08:54] <popey> woah!
[08:54] <popey> spooky
[09:00] <MooDoo> spook....slither.....
[09:00]  * MooDoo wonders how many people actually remember that lol
[09:02] <jnick_tait> popey, JamesTait... it is i, the one true original jnick_tait :-)
[09:02] <venkat> in my system  kernel version 3.5.0-17, 3.5.0-25, 3.5.0-26, 3.5.0-28, 3.5.0-30, 3.5.0-31, 3.5.0-32, 3.5.0-34  (which one i have remove)
[09:03] <brobostigon> the first 7, and leave the last.
[09:03] <bigcalm> As long as the last one works :)
[09:03] <brobostigon> yes.
[09:03] <bigcalm> When in doubt, leave 2
[09:03] <brobostigon> yes.
[09:04] <JamesTait> jnick_tait, I'm just grateful for the fact that you chose to go by your middle name and not your first.  It's bad enough having two Jameses on the team call each week, never mind two James Taits in the company! :D
[09:13] <bigcalm> It's another one of those days
[09:33] <meueshet> hi, someone here?
[09:33] <meueshet> hello?
[09:33] <DJones> There are people here
[09:33] <meueshet> good!
[09:33] <meueshet> i've instaled a backuppc on my server.
[09:34] <meueshet> and i want to make a backup for only 1 folder.
[09:34] <meueshet> how i can do it?
[09:34] <DJones> !backup
[09:37] <meueshet> DJones: my server make every day a folder with backups and every day it's overwrite the folder..  i want to make like a versioning for tha backup
[09:38] <DJones> meueshet: Probably better just asking the channel generally, my backups are only from desktops to a server & just use the builtin DejaDup backup
[09:38] <brobostigon> rsync can do versioning if memory serves,
[09:40] <meueshet> today folder, yesterday folder,  befor 2 days folder, befor 3 days folder, befor 4 days folder, befor 5 days folder, befor 6 days folder, befor week folder,  befor 2 weeks folder, befor 3 weeks folder,  befor month folder,   befor 2 months folder,    befor 3 months folder,  etc..
[09:47] <slvr> from what I understand BackupPC already stores multiple backups. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BackupPC_host.png
[09:47] <meueshet> but i need only 22 in 1 year not 365
[09:50] <directhe`> i pay a freaking fortune for crashplan - unlimited cloud backup space for all household computers
[09:51] <slvr> Unfortunately I'm not a user of that software, but from the documentation it does not look like that option is available.
[09:51] <slvr> Maybe you should contact them on their user mailing list instead? backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
[09:51] <slvr> Alternatively, if you want full control, consider rsync: http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/
[09:53] <slvr> Of course, you could always manually delete backups you do not want, I suppose.
[10:00] <mungbean> can someone remind me how i install linux bios on dell? i've got a .BIN file
[10:00] <mungbean> for a poweredge server
[10:01] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: firmware-addon-dell - A firmware-tools plugin to handle BIOS/Firmware for Dell systems
[10:01] <MartijnVdS> http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Repository/firmware
[10:01] <mungbean> MartijnVdS: that's old/doesn't work
[10:01] <MartijnVdS> oh.
[10:01] <mungbean> ah the bin file is a sh script
[10:01] <MartijnVdS> sh or bash?
[10:02] <mungbean> sh
[10:02] <MartijnVdS> it could be a bash script with a #!/bin/sh header
[10:02] <mungbean> runing now
[10:02] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:02] <MartijnVdS> which can break if /bin/sh != /bin/bash
[10:15] <mungbean> this dr who action figure set looks epic but pricey http://www.amazon.co.uk/Character-Options-Doctor-Doctors-Collector/dp/B002YX011E
[10:15] <mungbean> not reall sure who will spend 50 quid on such thing
[10:18] <directhe`> cheap for what you get
[10:19] <mungbean> i would like airfix to release a bunch of resin figures you can paint like that
[10:20] <mungbean> they did one before with tennant and the tardis
[11:16] <Laney> oh no, a huge bee in the office with me :(((((((
[11:16]  * Laney runs
[11:16] <bigcalm> Laney: steal its honey
[11:17] <Laney> phew
[11:17] <Laney> collected myself together and flicked it away with a book
[11:26] <MooDoo> Laney: don't kill it, they are endangered
[11:28] <hoover> cheers all
[13:13] <bigcalm> Ugh, the humid heat can go away now please
[13:13] <MartijnVdS> yes!
[13:14] <Dave2> Air conditioned office is fine. 30 degree bedroom not so much.
[13:14] <MartijnVdS> Dave2: mv bed office
[13:14] <Dave2> That would be rather difficult
[13:14] <MartijnVdS> Nothing is impossible!
[13:15] <Dave2> I didn't say it would be impossible. It would just be pretty hard and pointless.
[13:15] <bigcalm> Just sleep on a roll mat
[13:16] <bigcalm> Is there a way to commit everything in git except for selected files?
[13:18] <BigRedS> you could add them to .gitignore, commit -a , then remove them?
[13:18] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: git commit -a --interactive
[13:18] <BigRedS> ah, that sounds like someone who's read the documentation
[13:18] <bigcalm> :)
[13:18] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: thanks :)
[13:18] <MartijnVdS> you could also just stash the bits you don't want to commit yet, commit, then unstash
[13:18] <BigRedS> Every time I offer some daft workaround in ehre MartijnVdS seems to appear with the right way to do it :)
[13:19] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: and I don't even *like* git :P
[13:20] <BigRedS> MartijnVdS: I've not used anything else enough to know if it's something I like or dislike. It's one of very few pieces of software I don't recall ever having sworn at, though
[13:20] <MartijnVdS> we use bitkeeper at work, which is OK
[13:20] <MartijnVdS> you can see where Linus got his inspiration for git, and the bzr people for bzr ;)
[13:22] <BigRedS> You keep Perl in bitkeeper? That's asking for a snide remark about the '90s, surely!
[13:22] <MartijnVdS> \o/ 90s ;)
[13:22] <MartijnVdS> also.. :( legacy
[13:23] <BigRedS> yeah, that's a common excuse :) I found myself installing an svn server for a customer the other day which seemed a bit historical
[13:24] <MartijnVdS> "quaint" is the word I'd use ;)
[13:24] <BigRedS> haha
[13:24] <BigRedS> the rustic VCS
[13:24]  * popey calls IBM to get his laptop fixed
[13:25] <mungbean> again
[13:25] <BigRedS> popey: it's not the '90s any more
[13:25] <BigRedS> :)
[13:25] <mungbean> popey is the worst advert for thinkpad i've seen
[13:26] <BigRedS> Ah, you need to see me. I'm a good advert for them
[13:26] <BigRedS> mine still works
[13:26] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: "for al your picturesque Perl code"
[13:26] <mungbean> my IBM (not lenovo) one still works
[13:26] <mungbean> and its 13 years old
[13:27] <BigRedS> mungbean: runs OpenArena but not Firefox?
[13:27] <MartijnVdS> I threw my Pentium 2 thinkpad away a few months ago
[13:27] <BigRedS> mungbean: haha, I might give our SVN server here that as a tagline
[13:28] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: other m<tab> I guess? :)
[13:28] <BigRedS> MartijnVdS: yeah :)
[13:33] <popey> haha mungbean
[13:33] <popey> i called lenovo support, the guy asked me to describe the problem.. I asked if he had access to the internet and pointed him at my twitter feed ☻
[13:33] <popey> BigRedS: actually it is IBM you call for Lenovo support
[13:34] <popey> might see if the guy can replace the wrist-rest while he has it in bits, given I got a replacement one on ebay a while back and haven't fitted it yet
[13:36] <BigRedS> popey: oh, really? I've never broken one in a warranty-supporting sort of way
[13:37] <Azelphur> when I bought my thinkpad it arrived with a busted key on the keyboard
[13:38] <Azelphur> didn't bother sending it back though, replacement keycap was only $7
[13:38] <MartijnVdS> I feel a new image macro meme coming up.. "Upper-crust Azelphur"
[13:38] <MartijnVdS> all we need is a photo
[13:38] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: haha, whys that? :P
[13:38] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: "I didn't send it back, I just paid a bit more"
[13:39] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: haha, well, it was either send it back to Lenovo, probably wait like 2 weeks for a slightly dodgy key
[13:39] <BigRedS> haha
[13:39] <Azelphur> or pay $7 and have it done next day
[13:39] <BigRedS> and, to be fair, when you've just got your shiny new laptop that last thing you want to do is give it back
[13:39] <MartijnVdS> fair enough
[13:39] <Azelphur> ^ that
[13:40] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: if you're gonna do upper crust azelphur, you've gotta do it on the real upper crust things, like getting invited to the top of canary wharf for a cocktail party with bankers.
[13:40] <popey> mine broke within days
[13:40] <Azelphur> ;)
[13:40] <popey> had to have a new mobo because it refused to boot from ssd one time in 3
[13:40] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: and paying in bitcoin ;)
[13:40] <MartijnVdS> popey: UEFI?
[13:40] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: that's why I was invited ;)
[13:40] <popey> nope
[13:41] <popey> not EFI at all
[13:50] <mungbean> is there an easier way to fill a rack in racktables than clicking the object and then the rackspace tab?
[13:50] <mungbean> trying to fill arack is tedious
[14:09] <MartijnVdS> arack? related to the alot?
[14:11] <mungbean> his son
[14:11] <mungbean> also teh president
[14:11] <mungbean> arack bobama
[14:13] <MartijnVdS> ಠ_ಠ
[14:14] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_949926&feature=iv&src_vid=GIgHDE1AhyU&v=fbqeyHxH-zU
[14:18] <mungbean> thought that was a racktables tutorial :(
[14:18] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: it's a song about bad jokes :)
[14:18] <MartijnVdS> *entirely composed of
[14:27] <mungbean> people are drinking tea in this weather :S
[14:27] <popey> Ooh yes.
[14:27]  * bigcalm sips his tea
[14:27] <popey> I've been drinking coffee all day
[14:27] <mungbean> begone devil people
[14:28] <popey>  s/mungbean/captain_contraire/
[14:29] <mungbean> i like coffee
[14:29] <mungbean> but i only drink on special occasions
[14:29] <BigRedS> I got a 'coffee cooler' the other day
[14:30] <BigRedS> it was a really expensive cold coffee :(
[14:30] <mungbean> cofee stimulates me too much
[14:31] <mungbean> so only drink at a wedding or in an irish coffee (best drink ever)
[14:31] <BigRedS> drink more of it, it loses its effect
[14:31] <mungbean> if i'm not expeting to sleep anytime
[14:31]  * MartijnVdS had a lot of tea today
[14:31] <MartijnVdS> and it's 30-ish C out
[14:33] <popey> the only time coffeee keeps me awake is if I have the fresh stuff in a restaurant after a meal
[14:48] <AlanBell> afternoon
[14:48] <BigRedS> Good Morning!
[14:48] <popey> yo
[14:48]  * AlanBell has no X :(
[14:48] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: time to set up ntp
[14:49]  * popey wonders if AlanBell has -proposed enabled
[14:49]  * popey suspects he does
[14:49] <AlanBell> nope, but I have mir-team/staging
[14:49] <popey> ah fun
[14:50] <MartijnVdS> is it #blamepopey time? ;)
[14:50] <popey> Nope ☻
[14:53] <diddledan> morning
[14:53] <diddledan> slow work day
[14:53] <AlanBell> sudo ppa-purge ppa:mir-team/staging
[14:53] <AlanBell> tells me it could not find the package list
[14:54] <popey> try add-apt-repository -r ppa:mir-team/staging
[14:54] <AlanBell> that did something
[14:55] <AlanBell> now an update/dist-upgrade?
[14:55] <popey> I'd be inclined to see what packages you had from that ppa
[14:55] <popey> i.e. look at what's in it on lp
[14:55] <popey> and apt-get remove or downgrade them
[14:56] <AlanBell> cool, will do that
[14:56] <popey> apt-get install package=version package=version package=version   etc
[15:03] <AlanBell> yay, now installing ubuntu-desktop
[15:04] <AlanBell> also had to remove the mir-team/system-compositor-testing ppa
[15:06] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: you seem to be insinuating there is a time when it isn't blame popey
[15:07] <AlanBell> yay, I have a desktop again \o/
[15:07] <AlanBell> thanks popey :)
[15:07] <MartijnVdS> davmor2: true :)
[15:08] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: you should give him a beer in thanks :P
[15:08] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: once it arrives..
[15:08] <BigRedS> is mir day-to-day-use working?
[15:08] <AlanBell>  . . . ooh, interesting
[15:08] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1269
[15:08] <AlanBell> BigRedS: nope, not really (well not today for certain)
[15:08] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: that's what the DHL link I sent you is for :)
[15:08] <BigRedS> MartijnVdS: yeah, but he would say that!
[15:09] <AlanBell> looks like I uninstalled xorg yesterday, then suspended, then during a meeting with a client inadvertently rebooted, and had no X
[15:09] <AlanBell> luckily I wasn't attempting to demo anything at the time ;)
[15:09] <MartijnVdS> :)
[15:10] <AlanBell> now recovered via tethering over my phone in a hotel as network manager works awesomely from the command line
[15:10] <AlanBell> so Mir kinda worked when I tested it, but there were several showstopper bugs for me, some of which have apparently been fixed
[15:10] <diddledan> that shuttleworth post: "perhaps also the advantage of looking at things through the perspective of a mobile lens" <-- is that a new unity feature? :-p
[15:11] <popey> heh
[15:11] <MartijnVdS> is it "in scope"
[15:12] <AlanBell> bug 1102760 is probably quite a biggie
[15:17] <diddledan> multimonitor would be a deal-breaker for me
[15:17] <diddledan> I _require_ two screens to be civilised
[15:18] <diddledan> I'd really like 3 screens or maybe 6
[15:18] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: also a top hat and monocle?
[15:18] <diddledan> :-)
[15:27] <mungbean> kindle fire hd now 139 "with special offers"
[15:28] <MartijnVdS> i.e. ads
[15:28] <mungbean> i hate the kindle fire interface
[15:28] <mungbean> really nasty
[15:55] <diplo> mungbean: Me to, going to flash mine soon I think
[15:55] <diplo> Also don't like that no google services :/
[15:56] <diddledan> google-pwned
[15:56] <diddledan> :-p
[15:59] <mungbean> had to edit my /etc/redhat-release in order to get a dell fw update to work :(
[15:59] <diplo> Sounds fun :)
[15:59] <mungbean> would prefer a better message than "Unable to get the System Generation"
[16:00] <diplo> Right, going to go home on time tonight
[16:00] <diplo> gn all
[17:33] <venkat> Hi
[17:35] <venkat> could you help me please
[17:38] <venkat> i have dout in ubuntu  could you help me
[17:39] <brobostigon> how can we help.
[17:41] <venkat> my boot partation 100% use   i remove old kernel  am not able to login server please  tel me
[17:42] <brobostigon> if you run "df -h -T" how much free space is it showing, and where.
[17:42] <brobostigon> that will tell you, where you need to free up more space.
[17:43] <MartijnVdS> and removing kernels: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-to-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[17:43] <brobostigon> that was mentioned earlier MartijnVdS :), last time venkat asked this afternoon.
[17:44] <directhe`> popey, bigcalm: organ trail. yay or nay?
[17:44] <popey> uninstalled it
[17:44] <brobostigon> beer and food with my dad, woop.
[17:44] <MartijnVdS> directhe`: little inferno: ++
[17:44] <brobostigon> at 7:30pm.
[17:45] <brobostigon> i am not complaining, my dad is buying.
[17:45] <venkat> now am  removed old lernel   (3.2.0)   am  not able to login     how to recover
[17:46] <venkat> my boot partation
[17:46] <MartijnVdS> venkat: did you remove *all* kernels?
[17:46] <MartijnVdS> venkat: so now you just get grub (the boot loader screen)?
[17:47] <venkat> no am removed only  3.2.0.17  now working  kernel  3.2.0.34
[17:47] <MartijnVdS> venkat: then you're probably just typing your password wrong?
[17:49] <brobostigon> i just overclocked my mobile by 200odd mhz, lets hope it keeps up.
[17:50] <MartijnVdS> don't phones run at >1GHz these days?
[17:50] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: this is my htc dream,
[17:50] <venkat> n  i start server   is  recover mode   ubuntu , memory test   that  sereen  avaliable
[17:50] <MartijnVdS> venkat: no option to start 3.2.0.34?
[17:51] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: i made my own kernel this afternoon, for it, with zram to extend the ram abit further.
[17:51] <MartijnVdS> venkat: do you get an error? if so, which error?
[17:51] <venkat> ya  some  errors i watched
[17:51] <MartijnVdS> venkat: http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/232-ubuntu-boot-failure-initramfs might help you
[17:53] <venkat> but  i dot'no  i have    lot of data is there in that system
[17:54] <MartijnVdS> venkat: it's hard to understand what you're trying to say
[17:54] <brobostigon> ok, bbl, food andbeer time, :)
[17:55] <MartijnVdS> venkat: maybe there's another IRC channel, with people who speak your language, who can help you better
[17:56] <venkat> no   could  we please me  i can tel you  currently
[17:57] <MartijnVdS> venkat: What do you see on your screen?
[17:57] <MartijnVdS> venkat: the boot loader?
[17:57] <MartijnVdS> a "Login:" prompt?
[17:58] <venkat> when  i restart  i got  ubuntu, memory test. like   ok   after select  ubuntu  pres enter key    i sa  reeor messages
[17:58] <MartijnVdS> venkat: what's the exact text of the error messages?
[17:58] <venkat> no not com login prompt
[17:59] <MartijnVdS> I don't know that error message.
[18:00] <venkat> wait  for  2minits  will tel you
[18:19] <venkat> http://parmeter.net/tech/?p=1116    am  followin   this  url
[18:19] <MartijnVdS> venkat: did you notice /boot was full while doing an upgrade?
[18:20] <MartijnVdS> venkat: because then the initramfs probably wasn't installed correctly
[18:20] <MartijnVdS> venkat: or the entire kernel
[18:20] <MartijnVdS> venkat: so again, what's the error message?
[18:20] <directhe`> i tried to help venkat earlier today, but he disappeared partway & was basically uncontactable, on top of the language barrier
[18:20] <directhe`> so *shrug*
[18:20] <MartijnVdS> directhe`: OK, thanks
[18:20] <MartijnVdS> also
[18:21] <MartijnVdS> youtube died?
[18:23] <venkat> like  my old kernel  remove   after  restart     came  only  ubuntu  screen  only  after  enter  i got  erroe  messages
[18:26]  * popey wonders if venkat might get better help in somewhere where his first language is spoken.
[18:27] <popey> which may or may not be #ubuntu-in
[18:27] <MartijnVdS> judging by his IP, it might be
[18:33] <HoT|2fC^> Anyone know if I can get DD-WRT on my NetGear DGN2000 Router? it's ADSL+
[18:33] <HoT|2fC^> ADSL2+
[18:34] <MartijnVdS> HoT|2fC^: I'd recommend OpenWRT instead of DD-WRT
[18:34] <MartijnVdS> HoT|2fC^: it tends to use more recent kernels and software
[18:34] <MartijnVdS> HoT|2fC^: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/netgear/dgn2200v2 <-- currently unsupported
[18:35] <popey> didnt think dd-wrt supported any adsl routers
[18:35] <popey> only real routers
[18:36]  * popey has deja-vu
[18:36] <popey> didn't we talk about this recently
[18:36] <MartijnVdS> only very few routers with DSL are supported by either DD or OpenWRT
[18:37] <Seeker`> popey: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/07/02/%23ubuntu-uk.html
[18:37] <HoT|2fC^> No popey it wasnt yesterday it was ages ago lol, and thanks MartijnVdS! yeah looked into it and they do ADSL DD and OpenWRT supported routers now.
[18:38] <MartijnVdS> I have fibre now
[18:38] <MartijnVdS> fibre is cool
[18:38] <HoT|2fC^> haha alright for some MartijnVdS I live in the countryside and max d/l speed is 5mbps and u/l speed 0.38mbps
[18:38] <MartijnVdS> HoT|2fC^: awww
[18:38] <HoT|2fC^> So you are one lucky person.
[18:39] <HoT|2fC^> ;)
[18:39] <Seeker`> MartijnVdS: FTTC or FTTP?
[18:39] <HoT|2fC^> Also I have the DGN2000 MartijnVdS, http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/netgear/dgn2000
[18:39] <MartijnVdS> Seeker`: P
[18:39] <HoT|2fC^> ;)
[18:39] <Seeker`> :O
[18:39] <MartijnVdS> Seeker`: 100/100 (soon to be 500/500)
[18:39] <Seeker`> wow
[18:39] <HoT|2fC^> luckers!
[18:39] <Seeker`> FTTC is probably enough for me for now. 65/20
[18:39] <MartijnVdS> come to the Netherlands ;)
[18:39] <MartijnVdS> Most of the country will get fibre like this before 2017
[18:39] <HoT|2fC^> haha yeah Neatherlanders have it all ;)
[18:40] <HoT|2fC^> dude in our clan has 200/200
[18:40] <diddledan> damned dutch
[18:40] <HoT|2fC^> yeah dutchyys
[18:40]  * HoT|2fC^ passs di dutchiee pon di left hand side..
[18:41] <diddledan> I've been looking for some way of bonding two lines so I have a bt-based fttc and a virgin-media-based cable in a bonded setup - can't find any place that does it that tells me how pricey it would be
[18:42] <popey> AAISP do it
[18:42] <MartijnVdS> HoT|2fC^: that page doesn't specify support status though
[18:42] <popey> but not cable
[18:42] <diddledan> they all talk of like 6x5Mbps though, and none of them seem to consider fibre-based bonding
[18:42] <HoT|2fC^> MartijnVdS, yeah gatherd that ;)
[18:42] <HoT|2fC^> How do I find out for the DGN2000?
[18:43] <MartijnVdS> HoT|2fC^: let me check my build root :)
[18:44] <HoT|2fC^> :o
[18:44] <HoT|2fC^> Ok :D
[18:44] <HoT|2fC^> I just want to use a better control panel for my Router as the Netgear one is boring :D
[18:45] <HoT|2fC^> I just like to make things more advanced and colorful.
[18:45] <popey> get a better router?
[18:45] <HoT|2fC^> popey, stop being mean :D
[18:45] <popey> s/mean/realistic/
[18:45] <HoT|2fC^> popey, I dont have the money right now.
[18:46] <HoT|2fC^> I can make a better router from an old IBM pc and stick pfSense on there !
[18:46] <MartijnVdS> HoT|2fC^: grepping
[18:47]  * HoT|2fC^ runs off to make a quick sandwich..
[18:49] <diddledan> I like my mikrotik router. it's a shame the gui is a windows application, though, but at least it runs in wine/crossover
[18:50] <diddledan> I like that it allows you to admin via mac address in case you've forgotten what ip you gave it and it isn't doing dhcp
[18:58] <MartijnVdS> HoT|2fC^: nothing found
[18:58] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: the GUI is web-based as well
[18:58] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: for Mikrotik
[18:59] <diddledan> yeah, I haven't tried the web admin on it. the windows client works well enough for me in wine
[19:00] <diddledan> they've got ssh cli admin too
[19:12] <MartijnVdS> yeah, I've used that too
[19:13] <MartijnVdS> \o/ blog post finished
[19:14] <MartijnVdS> I need to stop writing these 3km long posts
[19:14] <diddledan> hmm.. wordpress wsod - on the /wp-admin/post.php?action=edit page
[19:15] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: but.. I use blogger.com
[19:15] <diddledan> server says 200 OK
[19:15] <diddledan> MartijnVdS: nah, on my own thing
[19:15] <diddledan> I'm building something secrit
[19:17] <diddledan> syslog says nothing, server log says nothing. I hate when wordpress does this kind of thing
[19:17] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: apache errorlog?
[19:17] <diddledan> I'm trying out google's own php thing on the app engine development server
[19:18] <diddledan> INFO     2013-07-09 19:14:23,367 server.py:593] default: "GET /wp-admin/post.php?post=1&action=edit HTTP/1.1" 200 -
[19:18] <diddledan> that says it sent a 200 OK response
[19:18] <MartijnVdS> isn't that the access log though?
[19:18] <MartijnVdS> does WP have its own log?
[19:19] <MartijnVdS> or PHP
[19:19] <diddledan> I've got a syslog plugin installed in wordpress but it's not reporting anything unusual
[19:20] <diddledan> if php had a fatal error I would expect to find it reported by syslog. as it is there is nothing logged.
[19:20] <MartijnVdS> I have never set up wordpress myself (almost typed "mysql" there.. hmmmm)
[19:20] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: are the file permissions set correctly?
[19:20] <diddledan> yup
[19:20] <MartijnVdS> (where "correctly" I mean "however WP expects them")
[19:21] <MartijnVdS> I'd double-check that :)
[19:23] <MartijnVdS> if anyone wants to proof-read or fact-check.. http://blog.vandestreek.net/2013/07/playing-with-wpa2-enterprise-using.html :)
[19:23] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: ^ ? :)
[19:24] <mungbean> has anyone seen this programme on dave called storage hunters?
[19:24] <diplo> mungbean: yeah watched it a few times
[19:24] <diplo> it's on discovery channels as well
[19:24] <mungbean> its weird. bunch of hillbilly types and caricatures
[19:24] <diplo> to many of them now
[19:24] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: is that the one where they auction off contents from storage that wasn't paid?
[19:24] <mungbean> i dont get it
[19:24] <diplo> MartijnVdS: yeah
[19:24] <mungbean> MartijnVdS: seems so
[19:25] <mungbean> the people on it are horrib
[19:26] <mungbean> its all staged surely. there's a genuine WWII prop in there.
[19:26] <MartijnVdS> it's like Antiques Roadshow for Americans
[19:26] <diplo> yeah I'd say its staged, but then they are americans :)
[19:26] <mungbean> there's a programme called toy hunters which is horrid too.
[19:26] <diddledan> there's no way they get all that junk in such a small area randomly
[19:27] <mungbean> they miss the point that its about toys
[19:27] <mungbean> and the guy just rips peopole off
[19:27] <mungbean> diddledan: exactly. there was a pristine train set, all set up, no dust
[19:27] <mungbean> i call shenanigans, and big ones too
[19:29] <mungbean> it stinks of fakery
[19:29] <diddledan> I don't get why they need to cut the lock off the door either, because the auctioneer says things like "we've got a killer lockup later on, you're going to be amazed" so he's seen inside already, which means he was the one who locked the door, and then he gets someone to take a pair of bolt cutters to his lock
[19:30] <mungbean> http://www.businessinsider.com/david-hester-says-storage-wars-is-fake-2012-12
[19:31] <mungbean> then again those, essex/chelsea progs are fake too
[19:31] <diplo> I hate most reality tv
[19:32] <mungbean> i also hate most american tv
[19:32] <popey> reminds me, dexter is back soon/already
[19:33] <bigcalm> Good evening peeps :)
[19:33] <mungbean> also, some company brands are blurred out
[19:33] <popey> YO!
[19:33] <mungbean> but the sony and dell gear is on
[19:33] <mungbean> not
[19:33] <diplo> I like things like ncis/elementary etc
[19:34] <diddledan> <3 abby in ncis!
[19:34] <diplo> Very nice :)
[19:34] <diddledan> the actress manages to look very young compared to her real age
[19:35] <diddledan> as abby she looks like 20's? she's actually in her 40s
[19:35] <mungbean> lol they planted a load of rats in the container underneath antique furniture
[19:36] <bigcalm> directhex: not yet tried organ trial
[19:36]  * bigcalm has a look
[19:36] <bigcalm> Nice music
[19:37] <MartijnVdS> organ music?
[19:38] <bigcalm> directhex: the little I just played was pants
[19:38]  * bigcalm uninstalls
[19:38] <bigcalm> directhex: popey: you guys should buy Trials Evolution on Steam, plug in a xbox controller and play multi-player with me :D
[19:43]  * bigcalm reboots to GameOS to play said game
[19:44]  * popey is in gameos playing with unity3d
[19:44] <popey> sophie was telling me what to do
[19:44] <popey> "put a ball there"
[19:44] <popey> "make it blue"
[19:44] <popey> "make it rolle"
[19:44] <popey> -e
[20:02] <mungbean> quidco are offering me a £5 bonus if "he rules are the same - simply purchase at any retailer before midnight Sunday, 14 July."
[20:03] <mungbean> does that mean i could buy any item from amazon for £6 and get a fiver back?
[20:12] <mungbean> there's no obvious T&C.
[20:47] <redtape|renegade> OT | Crytek® has posted a job advert for a 'Linux dev.' ::: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQwNTY ::: althou. Crysis is 5 years old, we'll prob. see it  within 2 years on steam\ubuntu.
[20:47] <redtape|renegade> prob. should post it on linux jobs mailing list ....
[21:08] <directhex> redtape|renegade, cryengine is still actively developed, and crysis 3 was released a couple of months ago
[21:14]  * redtape|renegade wonders why he's permanently living 1hr in the past according to the Ubuntu-UK logs ? http://bit.ly/1amagu4 :: Oh, & who do I poke about this ?
[21:16] <redtape|renegade> **makes that two hours in praeteritum
[21:16] <popey> the job runs in UTC
[21:16] <directhex> log files are often kept in GMT
[21:18]  * redtape|renegade makes a note of this, as so not to go poking around again.
[21:25]  * redtape|renegade is chipper [OT] Mrs Merkel& and 5% of .DE is using Linux  is switching to Linux ..  according to Mr Pogson ::: http://mrpogson.com/2013/07/08/gnulinux-breaking-out-in-germany/ :: (last OT post, today; [hypo's-honour])
[21:29] <diddledan> hang on, if that's OT then someone forgot to tell me there's a T to go O of.
[21:33] <redtape|renegade> diddledan: troo .. but it really a silent protest about the fact there's no-one to put a T to go O of.
[21:33]  * redtape|renegade makes an apology cake for diddledan for the remonstration.
[21:34] <diddledan> yey cake!
[21:34] <diddledan> wait, is the cake a lie?
[21:37]  * redtape|renegade tries to insert a ginger slab into his DVD drive for diddledan ..  as he forgets wat that's for since no 12.10 DVD's off ABell have arrived .. gives up.
[21:50] <redtape|renegade> diddledan: Sorry for that, I guess .DE isn't classed as in the ubuntu-UK's region .. so that's why it's OffTopic. Unless you count  Herman Ze German Café :)
[23:02] <redtape|renegade> Anyone for google glass ? £5K ::::: http://bit.ly/12kazQI :::
[23:05] <Azelphur> "only"
[23:52]  * redtape|renegade goes to bed wondering who clicked the bit.ly Link from Southern IRL ?  .... I'll check the logs in the Mir-ning.