[00:31] <snap-l> jcastro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-W05lNjztM
[00:49] <jrwren> TIL: /usr/bin/kvm is now a wrapper around qemu-system-something
[00:51] <rick_h_> jcastro: used that 303 stuff on the interior during a huge clean out of the car. <3
[00:52] <rick_h_> haven't tried it on the tires yet
[00:52] <rick_h_> and kayak fishing looks like it's sweet!
[10:59] <snap-l> Goodmorninig
[11:12] <rick_h> morning
[12:02] <snap-l> Reminder: MUG Meeting tonight
[12:02] <snap-l> Hope to see you all there
[12:02] <snap-l> unless you have a note from your doctor. ;)
[12:03]  * rick_h goes to find the wife's notepad
[12:03] <snap-l> heh
[12:03] <snap-l> bbiab
[12:19] <brousch> I won't be there
[12:19] <brousch> Android Xperience meeting, FriendlyCode meeting, and GRIN meting tonight
[12:22] <rick_h> where's your dr note?
[12:26] <brousch> I think there are some Phds at GRIN
[12:39] <brousch> WTF no OMC this week?
[12:39] <brousch> How am I supposed to survive?!
[12:57] <snap-l> brousch: By helping me to survive. :)
[12:57] <snap-l> Was tired last night.
[12:57] <snap-l> Also, aren't you a few episodes behind? :)
[12:59] <brousch> 1 episode
[13:00] <snap-l> Also, Well, i might accidentally release an Instrumetalcast on Friday.
[13:00] <snap-l> You never know. :)
[13:02] <brousch> Actually I need to plug in podcasts into a Listen replacement soon
[13:02] <brousch> I only have 4 podcasts left
[13:19] <rick_h> ouch, tell us how you really feel? https://twitter.com/mitsuhiko/status/354588731338014720
[13:22] <brousch> I have little hope for it
[13:30] <snap-l> I don't quite understand the negativity for FF OS
[13:31] <snap-l> If anything I think it has a better shot than Ubuntu Unity
[13:32] <brousch> I have no negativity towards it. I just see it like WebOS. It's too late to the game
[13:32] <brousch> Really, for the average consumer, what does it do better than Android?
[13:33] <snap-l> Works on cheap feature phones?
[13:33] <snap-l> It's not designed to replace Android afaict
[13:33] <snap-l> Or if it is, it's designed for the lower-level market
[13:34] <brousch> You can get free/cheap/used Androids
[13:35] <snap-l> and you can buy a Windows phone. Point? :)
[13:35] <snap-l> It's choice.
[13:35] <snap-l> Also, the world is not limited to the United States cell-phone market. :)
[13:36] <brousch> Android is world-wide
[13:36] <brousch> I just don't see the point. I can't see anything it does better or cheaper than Android
[13:37] <snap-l> It runs on some Alcatel phones
[13:37] <brousch> So the market is web devs who want to make phone apps and people who hate both Google and Apple
[13:37] <snap-l> so it gives Alcatel Lucent some relevance. ;)
[13:38] <snap-l> I don't see the issue with them trying
[13:38] <snap-l> Android was an upstart at one time
[13:38] <snap-l> Apple changed the market
[13:38] <snap-l> I see plenty of room on these streets
[13:39] <snap-l> Honestly I'd be surprised to see a FF phone in the wild in the states.
[13:39] <brousch> The USA is all that matters!
[13:39] <snap-l> Southeast Michigan is all that matters. ;)
[13:40] <brousch> bwahahahahahahah
[13:58] <brousch> I can't find a way to purchase a Firefox phone
[13:58] <snap-l> You'll have to wait. :)
[14:09] <brousch> I need one in the next 2 months or I won't get one for 2 years
[14:09] <brousch> It will have died by then
[15:04] <Blazeix> i'd love it if firefox os takes off. it definitely seems to be targeting the more flip-phone/candybar level market, though.
[15:05] <Blazeix> so it will be interesting to see how much app development activity there is
[15:28] <snap-l> An attacker could trick Ruby into trusting a rogue server.
[15:28] <snap-l> Isn't that called RVM?
[16:56] <snap-l> http://macgateway.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Mac-Workspace-Grass.jpg
[16:56] <snap-l> I'm not sure I understand this
[16:59] <brousch> For a cat maybe?
[17:12] <greg-g> "I'm a mac user, I'm all designy and out of the box thinking, I'll grow grass on my desk"
[17:15] <brousch> If it was in SF it would be marijuana
[17:17] <greg-g> indeed "just grow'n some grass, maaan"
[17:18] <greg-g> but really, the stoner hippy stereotype of SF has been overwhelming trumped by the startup libertarian stereotype
[17:18] <brousch> So portland is all the stoners now?
[17:26] <snap-l> Portland is where the pot goes to pot.
[17:29]  * greg-g moves to portland
[17:29] <brousch> uh huh
[17:30]  * rick_h jumps in the back of greg-g's car
[17:30] <greg-g> rick_h: yes!
[17:31] <snap-l> May the hippies take the lot o' ya.
[17:32] <rick_h> I'm working on it.
[17:32] <greg-g> :)
[17:32] <rick_h> I've just got to get the wife ready for along distance camping trip
[17:32] <rick_h> and not tell her it's one way until we get there :)
[17:32] <greg-g> lol
[17:33] <snap-l> rick_h: You really like living dangerously
[17:33] <rick_h> yolo :P is that hippy speak? I've not completed my class
[17:33] <greg-g> 'tis the only way to live
[17:33] <snap-l> yolmott
[17:33] <greg-g> definitely not hippy speak, more "rich kid driving daddy's beemer" speak
[17:33] <snap-l> you only live most of the time
[17:33] <rick_h> doh, I signed up for the wrong class!
[17:34] <greg-g> all the sideways baseball caps didn't tip you off?
[17:34] <rick_h> figured they were all on the west coast and the sun was coming over their shoulders
[17:36] <greg-g> hah
[17:38] <snap-l> lol
[17:54] <jcastro> http://durham.io/2013/07/09/seth-vidal-creator-of-yum-open-source-software-killed-in-bike-accident-off-hillandale-rd/
[17:54] <jcastro> man
[17:54] <jcastro> this is shitty
[17:55] <greg-g> ugh :(
[17:59] <snap-l> jcastro: yeah, just saw that. :(
[18:01] <jcastro> man
[18:01] <jcastro> I met him once too
[18:01] <jcastro> a long time ago
[18:01] <jcastro> he's like our age man
[18:01] <jcastro> so sad
[18:03] <snap-l> Hug a developer
[18:03] <snap-l> That's all you can do.