[06:46] <Kilos> hi superfly Vince-0 and others
[06:47] <Vince-0> hi
[06:51] <Kilos> hi tonberryE352 
[06:51] <tonberryE352> hello
[06:51] <Kilos> i go sort sheeps
[06:53] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:54] <magespawn> good morning all
[06:56] <superfly> morning magespawn, mazal, Kilos, tonberryE352, Vince-0
[06:56] <superfly> (did I miss anyone?)
[06:57] <Vince-0> everyone is afk
[06:58] <Vince-0> oh, and it's only Tuesday
[06:59] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[07:00] <Kilos> mazal, did you look at awstats
[07:01] <magespawn> hey hey its Tuesday
[07:03] <Kilos> morning magespawn 
[07:06] <mazal> Nee oom , kry nie kans nie , bk besig hier
[07:07] <Kilos> ok
[07:07] <mazal> Sal nou nou loer
[07:07] <Squirm> morning
[07:07] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[07:08] <mazal> Kilos, I see it is a web server analyzer. And I remember it. Used it way back sometime. Why you want me to look at it ?
[07:08] <mazal> Gives stats of your traffic and visitors etc.
[07:09] <Kilos> i found it in the repos and it looked good for server okeys
[07:09] <mazal> Yeah I think I should give it a go sometime again
[07:09] <mazal> Was waaaaaayyyyy back when I had Fedora servers. Can't even remember how to configure it lol
[07:10] <Kilos> the fly said it a good tool
[07:10] <mazal> It is
[07:13] <mazal> Tells many things , even which pages have been visited the most , which hours most active etc.
[07:13] <Kilos> is a web server only for servers on the internet or on lans as well
[07:13] <mazal> Mine would probably read 90% faults register , 10% ip register , 10 asset register hehehe
[07:13] <mazal> Lans as well , all 3 mine is for lan
[07:13] <superfly> hi Squirm
[07:14] <mazal> It has an intranet web page , fault reporting system , as well as various front ends for me and barry's databases
[07:14] <Kilos> ah
[07:14] <mazal> LAMP has many uses :)
[07:15] <mazal> And while we were at it we sommer added samba and made a little backup system for every user to store his/her files
[07:15] <Kilos> cool
[07:15] <mazal> And we distribute av updates via it as well
[07:17] <mazal> As you know , at work we have to battle with windoooooze. And I probably are allowed to say it , but the work's av is just to unreliable. So we had to make another plan
[07:17] <mazal> And for all these things we chose ubuntu servers
[07:17] <mazal> are not allowed even , sigh , and the terrible typing continues
[07:18] <Kilos> hehe my win 7 is very stable
[07:18] <Kilos> never gets to see the internet haha
[07:19] <Squirm> hey superfly, mazal 
[07:24] <mazal> Lo Squirm 
[07:24] <Kilos> i have a weird question
[07:24] <mazal> o.....k
[07:24] <mazal> Let's hear
[07:25] <Kilos> i have a dvdrom that can boot and install win7 but wont boot from ubuntu
[07:25] <mazal> How do you mean "from ubuntu"
[07:25] <Kilos> gigabyte dvdrom
[07:25] <Kilos> cant boot from ubuntu cds
[07:26] <Kilos> or dvds
[07:27] <superfly> Kilos: are the DVDs or CDs set up to be bootable?
[07:27] <mazal> Does another Linux live cd boot like parted magic for example ?
[07:27] <Kilos> yessir its my 12.04.2 and remastersys dvd and cd
[07:28] <Kilos> can lemme try others
[07:31] <Kilos> nope with parted magic as well it stands a while on boot from cd then goes to the hdd
[07:31] <Kilos> flashes the dvdrom light a few times then goes past to the drive
[07:32] <Kilos> if i put my cdrom in there it works
[07:32] <Kilos> ive tried the master slave strap things all over as well
[07:33] <Kilos> its like the bios dont wanna see linux cds
[07:37] <mazal> Strange that. I have no idea sorry
[07:37] <Kilos> np
[07:37] <mazal> Can't you boot from usb and do what you need that way ?
[07:38] <Kilos> i havent tried but i first wanna try figure out why the dvdrom does that
[07:38] <magespawn> okay that was wierd
[07:38] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[07:38] <magespawn> might be the disk itself 
[07:39] <Kilos> what disk?
[07:39] <Kilos> drive has 12.04 on
[07:40] <Kilos> but they battle with nm so i wanted to use the remastersys dvd which i know works because i used it here
[07:52] <Symmetria> sup 
[07:52] <Kilos> fixed Symmetria ?
[07:52] <Squirm> lo Symmetria 
[07:52] <Kilos> you came home to fix it
[07:52] <Symmetria> huh? 
[07:53] <Symmetria> is what fixed ;p
[07:53] <Kilos> you crashed your home pc member
[07:53] <Symmetria> Im sitting at the equator looking out over paradise ;p if anything is broken I havent noticed or cared :)
[07:53] <Kilos> you been offline for a week about
[07:53] <Symmetria> oh haha yeah I forgot about that ;p hard to give a damn where I am right now
[07:53] <Symmetria> https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/969678_10151646943460528_386332367_n.jpg
[07:53] <Symmetria> check out the cool spider!
[07:54] <Kilos> spiders are all made for splatting
[07:54] <Symmetria> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/998711_10151645230755528_1369961849_n.jpg <[07:54] <Symmetria> https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/599593_10151643368035528_134081038_n.jpg <[07:55] <Kilos> whats with the holiday you have sorted afrinic yet
[07:56] <Symmetria> lol I keep trying but I got to the point where I said screw it and needed to just escape for a while
[07:56] <Symmetria> and if the whole world burns while Im sitting in paradise, well, I'd find it card to care right now ;p
[07:56] <Kilos> excuses
[07:59] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[08:03] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:04] <magespawn> the first photo is a golden/garden orb variety spider, probable the female and male, the female is the big one
[08:04] <magespawn> looks like Zanzibar? Symmetria?
[08:04] <Symmetria> magespawn Watamu, Kenya
[08:05] <Symmetria> 80 kilometers north of Mombasa 
[08:05] <Symmetria> how poisonous is that spider?
[08:05] <magespawn> not at all
[08:05] <magespawn> well not to you anyway
[08:06] <magespawn> painful bite, but that is just because of their size
[08:06] <magespawn> might be dangerous if you are allergic to the venom
[08:08] <Symmetria> its still kinda cool looking
[08:08] <Kilos> hi nocware 
[08:09] <nocware> hey, morning everyone.
[08:09] <nocware> kilos
[08:10] <magespawn> their webs are the favorite of some species of sunbird for building their nests
[08:10] <magespawn> very strong
[08:22] <magespawn> Symmetria: how is the travel in that region generally? safe? friendly?
[08:30] <Kilos> wbb, gonna install boot-repair and run it but need to disconnect 2 drives first
[08:50] <Kilos> whew magespawn 42 onna week day
[08:51] <Kilos> and not even a meeting
[08:52] <Kilos> Banlam, bakuman are you guys still alive?
[08:55] <inetpro> good morning
[08:55] <inetpro> oh and good morning Kilos
[08:55] <Kilos> ohi inetpro 
[08:55] <inetpro> I'm alive 
[08:55] <Kilos> als gut?
[08:55] <Kilos> we wonder at times
[08:56] <inetpro> :-)
[09:11]  * mazal munches on a sarmy
[09:12] <Kilos> uh oh
[09:12] <mazal> oh boy
[09:12] <mazal> Wassie ekkie , het net 'n brooidtjie gekou 
[09:16] <Kilos> inetpro, you caused that net split hey?
[09:16] <Kilos> naughty
[09:16] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[09:19] <magespawn> Nice turn out hey
[09:19] <Kilos> yeah
[09:20] <inetpro> Kilos: me?
[09:20] <inetpro> ai!
[09:20] <Kilos> dunno what happened to that meatpc guy
[09:20] <Kilos> hehe
[09:20] <mazal> What's a meatpc ?
[09:20] <Kilos> its a new guy that joined here last week
[09:21] <Kilos> web designer or something
[09:21] <mazal> ah ok
[09:21] <Kilos> uses ubuntu and sucks
[09:21] <mazal> Everybody sucked at some stage
[09:21] <Kilos> theres a few guys that just dont come back
[09:22] <Kilos> maybe i chase them
[09:22] <mazal> Is because they do it wrong
[09:22] <mazal> There is a right way and a wrong way of converting
[09:22] <Kilos> meatpc said he was an old irc guy
[09:28] <mazal> Oh hehehe , I was refering to from ms to linux
[09:33] <charl> good morning
[09:33] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[09:33]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[09:33] <mazal> Morning charl 
[09:33] <Kilos> hi charl 
[09:33] <charl> hi mazal 
[09:33] <magespawn> hi charl
[09:33] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[09:33] <Maaz> Kilos: Done
[09:33] <charl> hi Kilos 
[09:33] <charl> hi magespawn 
[09:33] <magespawn> Maaz large please
[09:33] <Maaz> magespawn: Excuse me?
[09:33] <charl> how's it going with you folks
[09:33] <magespawn> Maaz coffee please
[09:33] <Maaz> magespawn: Done
[09:33] <mazal> Good thanx and you ?
[09:34] <magespawn> Maaz large please
[09:34] <Maaz> magespawn: Excuse me?
[09:34] <magespawn> Maaz large 
[09:34] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you magespawn
[09:34] <Kilos> no please magespawn 
[09:34] <Kilos> ah
[09:34] <magespawn> bit slow on the uptake this morning
[09:34] <magespawn> all good charl
[09:35] <charl> :)
[09:37] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl, Kilos and magespawn!
[09:37] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[09:37] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[09:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> howdy Kilos
[09:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> hello all
[09:39] <mazal> Lo ThatGraemeGuy 
[09:40] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[09:40] <Maaz> charl: Okay :-)
[09:41] <mazal> Have anybody done efiling yet ? Does the new sars website work with firefox ?
[09:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> i installed the android app, looks promising
[09:47] <Kilos> which one ThatGraemeGuy ?
[09:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> sars efiling app
[09:47] <Kilos> just an app in here or the full adroid os
[09:47] <Kilos> oh
[09:53] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: I used it last year
[10:20] <mazal> I have a strange thing I want to do
[10:21] <mazal> USB stick , fat32 , Must be read-only until I change it to writable. Must be fully read only that no fungus can climb on it. Must be accessible on both Ubuntu and Win
[10:21] <mazal> Any ideas ?
[10:22] <tonberryE352> read only fat32 on windows?
[10:22] <mazal> Yep
[10:22] <tonberryE352> can windows mount things read only?
[10:22] <mazal> Don't want Windoz's virusses getting onto it
[10:23] <tonberryE352> sd card with a usb converter
[10:23] <tonberryE352> lock the card
[10:23] <mazal> But a software solution that locks it won't work as I must be able to work on Ubuntu with it as well
[10:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> i think your only option there is a hardware switch
[10:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> sd cards have them, not sure about usb flash drives
[10:23] <tonberryE352> old usb flash drives had those switches
[10:23] <tonberryE352> 256mb era
[10:24] <mazal> Yeah I remember those old ones , but seemed to have died out
[10:25] <mazal> tonberryE352, so if I understand correctly , I don't use a usb stick at all , but an sd card instead with a converter for the card ?
[10:25] <tonberryE352> yes
[10:26] <mazal> K thanx , will look into that
[10:26] <mazal> How scarce are those converters ?
[10:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> not scarce at all
[10:26] <mazal> cool
[10:27] <mazal> And ubuntu sees it easily ?
[10:27] <tonberryE352> haven't seen any that don't work
[10:27] <mazal> K , thanx
[12:37] <mazal> Enjoy your evening everyone
[12:37] <mazal> bye
[13:40] <Symmetria> mannnnn
[13:40] <Symmetria> I went fishing earlier and didnt take my camera on the boat cause I didnt want it to get damaged
[13:40] <Symmetria> and for the first time in my life I caught something ;p
[13:40] <Symmetria> haha stupid catch and release rules though, have to weigh, tag and release 
[13:41] <Symmetria> but it took 5 of us to pull that thing in holy hell it was huge
[15:16] <magespawn> later all home time
[15:35] <Kilos> hi Dreen 
[15:35] <Dreen> Hile fellow Ubuntuans!
[15:35] <Kilos> hehe who are you?
[15:36] <Dreen> meatpc from Sunday
[15:36] <Kilos> aha wb
[15:36] <Kilos> thought you forgot about us
[15:36] <Dreen> ADSL was not cooperating last night
[15:36] <Kilos> eish
[15:37] <Dreen> looking good so far though...
[15:37] <Kilos> early reminder, we have our monthly loco meeting here on monday evening hey?
[15:38] <Kilos> no ?
[15:38] <Dreen> is that a question or a statement? lol
[15:38] <Dreen> supper time!
[15:38] <Kilos> enjoy
[15:38] <Dreen> *gone*
[15:54] <Kilos> hehe
[15:55] <Kilos> adsl dont like meat, it blocks the tubes
[16:11] <Kilos> wb Dreen 
[16:13] <Kilos> inetpro, dont forget this week. G+ and twit place meeting posts for monday night is your job hey
[17:03] <magespawn> good evening
[17:51] <Kilos> hi magespawn sorry was busy working with iptables again
[17:51] <Kilos> ha another idea
[17:51] <Kilos> had
[17:51] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[17:51] <Kilos> and smile4ever 
[17:52] <theblazehen> hi Kilos 
[17:53] <Dreen> what you doing with iptables?
[17:53] <Kilos> i trying to get a second pc to share the 3g connection here
[17:54] <Kilos> got it working once before but missing something here
[17:54] <Dreen> sounds interesting!
[17:54] <Kilos> took weeks to get it right back on maverick
[17:55] <Kilos> now ive forgotten what i did or saved wrong instructions
[17:56] <Kilos> serious business masquerading
[17:58] <Kilos> then the bigger job comes making a wifi router on second pc also share this ones 3g
[17:58] <Kilos> hehe
[18:00] <Kilos> yo charl 
[18:04] <Kilos> hi drubin wb. how are you?
[18:10] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:11] <Kilos> your connection still not good meatpc 
[18:14] <magespawn> Hey Kilos
[18:16] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[18:16] <Cantide> hey Kilos :p
[18:17] <Kilos> when are you leaving Cantide ?
[18:17] <Cantide> Kilos, i don't know yet
[18:17] <Cantide> why? 'o'
[18:17] <Kilos> ah
[18:17] <Cantide> i'm pushing for mid-August
[18:17] <Cantide> but i don't know if i will make it
[18:17] <Kilos> why?
[18:18] <Cantide> documents taking too long
[18:18] <Kilos> eish
[18:18] <Cantide> but i've booked my flight to Pretoria already '-'v
[18:18] <Kilos> hehe
[18:18] <Kilos> not jhb?
[18:18] <Cantide> kak expensive -.-
[18:18] <Cantide> ah
[18:18] <Cantide> well, OR Thambo
[18:18] <Cantide> but i will stay in benoni and drive up to pretoria
[18:18] <Kilos> ya thats jhb side
[18:19] <Cantide> yup
[18:19] <Kilos> oh
[18:19] <Cantide> but i mean i'm going there to go to Pretoria, even though I'm flying to OR Thambo
[18:22] <Kilos> stay in durbs as long as possible its cold here
[18:24] <smile4ever> :D
[18:24] <smile4ever> www.bit.ly/wikilistdev
[18:24] <smile4ever> thumbs up :)
[18:25] <Kilos> where is ubuntu?
[18:26] <smile4ever> under debian
[18:26] <smile4ever> :)
[18:26] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:26] <Cantide> Kilos, lol
[18:27] <Cantide> i have warm clothes, so i'll be fine :)
[18:27] <Kilos> thats like putting a ferrari under bridgestone
[18:27] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:27] <Kilos> durbans winter clothes are pta's summer clothes
[18:28] <Kilos> inetpro, ping
[18:28] <smile4ever> Kilos: debian and ubuntu are using deb, so that's the same for packages :)
[18:29] <Kilos> ok ill take your word for it smile4ever 
[18:29] <smile4ever> great :)
[18:29] <Kilos> hehe
[18:29] <Kilos> keep up the good work lad
[18:30] <Cantide> Kilos, winter clothes from Korea - it was minus 20 at one place i went to
[18:30] <Kilos> eeeek
[18:31] <Kilos> you like a penguin
[18:31] <smile4ever> I added installation instructions for Ubuntu in the Quick Manual :)
[18:31] <Cantide> lol
[18:31] <Kilos> lol
[18:32] <smile4ever> gambas3 ppa can be helpful :)
[18:39] <smile4ever> I have to go
[18:39] <smile4ever> good night!
[18:39] <Kilos> sleep tight smile4ever 
[18:41] <smile4ever> thanks
[18:46] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn  dont forget meeting monday evening hey
[18:49] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight. see ya morrow