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smartboyhwDamn, my login screen doesn't load (in X without Mir)03:37
smartboyhwThe Ubuntu one.03:38
smartboyhwScottK, when can you approve my SRU?03:38
macosmartboyhw: i doubt he's still awake at this time of night03:46
macoalso i really wanted to give a much more smart aleck answer to that03:46
smartboyhwmaco: aleck?03:47
smartboyhwWhat's that word?03:47
macoit's me not saying ass in the channel ;)03:47
smartboyhwmaco: LOL03:47
maco"smart aleck" is what adults say around children instead of "smart ass" at least where i'm from03:47
ScottKmaco: It's not even midnight yet.03:57
ScottKsmartboyhw: I'll take a look, but I don't promise to be comfortable with accepting them.03:57
macoScottK: grownup jobs start eaaaaaarly and bed times seem to get earlier and earlier as the years go on03:58
macomy bedtime used to be 4am. it is now midnight.03:58
ScottKmaco: sleep is for the weak.03:58
macoor 1 at the latest03:58
ScottKsmartboyhw: What release where then uploaded for?03:58
ScottKAdmittedly, I was weak for about 3 1/2 hours last night.03:59
ScottKs/then/they//03:59
kubotuScottK: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"03:59
smartboyhwScottK: Raring only04:05
smartboyhwSince the package don't exist in Precise or Quantal04:06
smartboyhwScottK: Um, it's not uploaded yet, the .debdiff is attached to the relative bugs04:07
Noskcajsmartboyhw, i am here04:30
smartboyhwNoskcaj: Duh, now since my Ubuntu can't go into the login screen (a bug discussed in ubuntu-devel) now I've fallen back to my own Chromium OS build:P05:29
NoskcajI'll have to wait to tomorrow before a i get a VM of kubuntu, i'm looking at packaging guides now. What do you recommend i do to start off?05:30
smartboyhwNoskcaj: Um, let me find the link05:30
Noskcajok05:31
smartboyhwNoskcaj: Wait, you mean what guides to look for, or which packages you want to start?05:31
Noskcajpackages, probably. but anything05:31
Noskcajnevermind, i found a video tutorial05:42
ScottKsmartboyhw: You don't want me to upload it, you want me to accept it after someone else has uploaded it.05:49
smartboyhwScottK: oh great, let me get Riddell or yofel or shadeslayer_ or apachelogger to do it06:01
smartboyhwNoskcaj: Well, try to work on package upgrades in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=kubuntu-packaging06:02
smartboyhw* new versions06:02
smartboyhwThat's a simplier start:)06:02
Noskcajsmartboyhw, what the process for package updating? use bug 1196978 as an example06:33
ubottubug 1196978 in sflphone (Ubuntu) "Please update sflphone to 1.2.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119697806:33
soeegood morning06:37
Noskcajsince smartboyhw seems to be busy, can someone show me how to start updating the packages?06:44
smartboyhwNoskcaj: um look at the packaging guide06:48
smartboyhwNormally Kubuntu people just copy the debian/ folder into the new version06:48
smartboyhwBut for me, I would want to use bzr merge-upstream or uupdate 06:48
Noskcajok06:49
yofelnormally we use uupdate too, but when teaching people how to do it then it's good to show them at least once how it's done by hand06:58
yofelgood morning btw.06:58
Noskcajcan someone take a look at bug 1179207, i've uploaded a fix branch07:05
ubottubug 1179207 in nootka (Ubuntu) "Please update nootka to 0.8.77~beta" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117920707:05
Noskcajfor sflphone, i assume debian needs to update first07:08
smartboyhwyofel: please upload .debdiff at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/ibus-cangjie/+bug/1189083 to raring07:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1189083 in ibus-cangjie (Ubuntu Raring) "Make "Preferences" button work in "IBus Preferences"" [Undecided,Confirmed]07:48
smartboyhwScottK needs someone to upload so he can approve07:49
yofelsmartboyhw: I'm no MOTU, either do a regular sponsorship request or ask someone else08:18
smartboyhwyofel: I did do one, no one cared it for me:(08:18
smartboyhwRiddell: I think you are Core Dev , so help me plz:P08:19
yofeltrue, it's in the sponship queue. I guess people are busy08:20
Noskcajcan someone review  https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/sflphone/merge-1.2.3-2 and https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/nootka/upstream-merge 08:45
Noskcaji probably did something wrong on the first one08:45
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smartboyhwNoskcaj: Looking at your merge proposal, is the Ubuntu-specific changes in 1.2.0-3ubuntu1 not applicable to 1.2.3 anymore?09:20
NoskcajI hadn't found the how-to yet for that then, but i'm pretty sure it's good.09:21
smartboyhwNoskcaj: here's the simple question: Does the Debian package 1.2.3-1 contain nepomuk-core-dev as build-dep?09:23
Riddellsmartboyhw: what's needed?09:24
Noskcaji have to go, bye09:24
smartboyhwRiddell: upload an SRU for me09:25
smartboyhwBug 1189083 and Bug 1189085 (same .debdiff attached)09:25
ubottubug 1189083 in ibus-cangjie (Ubuntu Raring) "Make "Preferences" button work in "IBus Preferences"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118908309:25
ubottubug 1189085 in ibus-cangjie (Ubuntu Raring) "ibus-cangjie missing dependency gir1.2-ibus-1.0" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118908509:25
smartboyhwUpload it to raring09:25
smartboyhwraring-updates, you know...09:26
smartboyhwScottK will help to approve after I or people in the Linux HK Community tested it09:26
Riddellsmartboyhw: sure will look in a bit09:27
smartboyhwRiddell: Many thanks!!!!09:28
agateauxnox: ping09:44
agateauxnox: hi, I have been looking at implementing a wireless page in the kde frontend for ubiquity09:54
agateauxnox: it looks doable, but it would need moving the gtk specific bits of ubiquity/nm.py into a separate file, does it sound doable to you?09:54
agateauwell except for the model passed to the NetworkManager class, for this I would write a qt adapter09:55
xnoxagateau: sure, sounds good.09:55
xnoxagateau: there is a pending change to remove password field, and instead ask "NetworkManager connect to this SSID" such that then networkmanager can prompt for passwords as it sees fit / needed.09:55
agateauxnox: so networkmanager would pop up a dialog to ask for the password?09:56
agateauxnox: that sounds less integrated than the current solution, what is the reason for this change?09:57
agateauoh, maybe password-less wifi09:57
xnoxagateau: current one doesn't know if/when password is needed, so there are cases where it demands one (when networkmanager doesn't need one) or doesn't ask for a password, but it is needed.10:01
xnoxfor certain wifi configurations.10:01
agateauxnox: ok. offloading more work to network manager is probably more robust anyway10:02
agateauxnox: only worry is whether kde frontend of networkmanager supports this10:02
agateauxnox: is the change in a proposed branch?10:03
apacheloggersurely one could hijack a possible nm password window and integrate it in ubiquity using weird X magic10:03
apachelogger(not that I think that this would be a good idea ;))10:03
xnoxapachelogger: yeah, don't use Xsocket, that like will not work on.... Mir.10:04
xnoxand ubiquity kind of needs to work on Mir with default toolkits =)10:04
agateau(shh, don't write the M* word here)10:05
apacheloggersurely one could hijack a possible nm password window and integrate it in ubiquity using weird Mir magic? :P10:05
apacheloggerOTOH, agateau, depending on which piece of software displays the dialog you possible could wire the kdeui to whatever nm-kde thing there is10:06
agateauapachelogger: assuming this whatever nm-kde thing as a dbus api or python bindings10:07
apacheloggeri.e. nm-kde forwarding password request to ubiquity, kdeui goes "weeh" and animated a password field appearing or something, user enters password, password is sent to nm-kde10:07
apacheloggeragateau: well, in the mid-term adding simple api for that may not be a big problem10:08
agateauapachelogger: agreed, but that's out of scope for 13.10 I think10:08
apachelogger+10:08
apacheloggerjust write a trello card for 14.04 :P10:08
agateauheh :)10:09
agateaulet me first figure out if i can get a basic wireless page running10:09
apacheloggerkdesupport built \o/10:09
apacheloggeragateau: while you are poking in ubiquity, please have a look at the "Proper spell-checking support enabled by default" thread on kubuntu-devel10:11
apacheloggerfor some reason we don't get an update-notifier file setup if ubiquity did an incomplete l10n installation10:11
Riddellnot having a working plymouth after install is more important than spell checking10:12
apacheloggeroh that is true10:12
smartboyhwRiddell: you uploaded the SRU yet?10:12
smartboyhwHello apachelogger 10:12
apacheloggeryo smartboyhw10:13
Riddellsmartboyhw: not yet sorry will get to it shortly10:13
apachelogger1 → 75 of 1211 results10:14
apachelogger:O10:14
apacheloggeronly 1211 reports10:14
apacheloggergrub2 seems well triaged :O10:14
agateaummm, I have zero plymouth knowledge10:15
agateauand I am not sure i want to get some10:15
Riddellagateau: it needs update-grub being called after install10:17
Riddellat least that's /a/ fix for it, not sure why it's a problem at all for kubuntu when it wasn't before and isn't for ubuntu desktop10:17
Riddellbug 117109910:17
agateauRiddell: is this a new requirement?10:17
ubottubug 1171099 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu Saucy) "kubuntu - plymouth not shown" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117109910:17
agateauI don't think I will have the time to look into this10:18
Riddellagateau: fair enough10:19
apacheloggerRiddell: I know the cause of the bug10:20
apacheloggerwell in grub I do10:20
apacheloggerin terms of ubiquity I actually think the problem is in d-i10:20
Riddellapachelogger: do you know why we have it an ubuntu desktop doesn't?10:25
Riddellsmartboyhw: ibus-cangjie uploaded to raring-proposed10:26
smartboyhwRiddell: awesome! MANY THANKS!10:28
apacheloggerRiddell: yes10:34
apacheloggerRiddell: in terms of grub10:34
apacheloggerwell10:34
apacheloggerit's a cascaded issue10:34
apacheloggerubiquity/d-i doesn't write the default_cmdline for some reason (though according to my research it should...)10:35
apacheloggerand grub's postinst also doesn't write it (or actually it tries to write a null one)10:35
apacheloggerRiddell: correction... ubiquity/d-i set the value but do not run update-grub afterwards such that the setting is not applied10:47
xnoxwas update-grub not run at all, or run before the value got set?10:48
Riddellapachelogger: that sounds like something which should be easy enough to fix10:49
apacheloggerdunno, I didn't find out why exactly it refused to run update-grub10:49
Riddelld-i/source/grub-installer/grub-installer has some stuff about running update-grub10:50
apacheloggerxnox: I think it may have been run before setting the value, but I am not sure on the details to be honest10:50
apacheloggerRiddell: yeah it does not get run10:51
apacheloggerIIRC there is an if very much towards the end of the file that would if evaluating to true run update-grub10:51
apacheloggerand that is the one that should be executed from a process flow POV10:52
Riddellmm my installer log from this ubuntu desktop install mentions..10:52
RiddellJul  8 18:24:33 ubuntu ubiquity: run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.8.0-26-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-26-generic10:52
apacheloggerneeds to be after that10:53
Riddellbut the log doesn't show that grub-installer script running update_grub10:53
Riddellit shows grub-installer script doing other stuff10:53
apacheloggergrub-installer is very silent by default10:54
apacheloggergrub-installer actually correclty fixes the cmdline in default/grub10:54
apacheloggerthat's why a manual update-grub run brings back plymouth, it's really just the update-grub invocation that is not executed :/10:54
smartboyhwEh:(10:56
smartboyhwRiddell: hmm I still can't see the upload in LP10:57
Riddellsmartboyhw: it'll be in the raring unapproved queue10:57
Riddellneeds ~ubuntu-sru to approve it10:57
Riddellapachelogger: my bash isn't great, update_grub () has a variable called $update_grub for the command, I wonder if that name clash gets confused10:58
smartboyhwRiddell: oh yeah, ScottK to do the work10:59
Riddellapachelogger: just testing with this it does get confused http://paste.kde.org/792890/11:00
smartboyhwScottK: and I think at the same time you can approve the kscreen and libkscreen SRUs:P11:01
apacheloggerRiddell: I am not looking at it right now :P11:01
apacheloggerRiddell: if you call update_grub() it should work btw11:02
Riddellapachelogger: I'll give it a test, a long shot but maybe that's the issue11:02
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yofelquantal 4.10.5 now in backports11:15
yofelsmartboyhw: btw. could you please fix up the calligra 2.6.3 backports please? They're in dep-wait: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=calligra11:17
smartboyhwyofel: ha? I'm leaving for airport within 1 hour11:17
yofelah ok, nvm then11:18
smartboyhwAnd I'm not in HK until 31st July11:18
yofelhave a nice trip!11:18
smartboyhwyofel: it's a vc problem11:18
smartboyhwvc doesn't exist in raring 11:18
smartboyhws/raring/quantal/11:33
kubotusmartboyhw meant: "vc doesn't exist in quantal"11:33
smartboyhw~kubuntu-ppa/ppa 14.8 GiB (92.40%) of 16.0 GiB 11:34
smartboyhwI think we need a cleanup11:34
yofelthere's not much we can remove from the backports11:36
smartboyhwyofel: Oops11:37
smartboyhwHopefully it won't be full one day11:37
smartboyhwGood bye guys, see you after 3 weeks, best of luck:)11:40
apacheloggeryofel: with ever so far reaching backports I reckon a size bump is in order 11:41
apacheloggerworkspace build triggered11:41
apacheloggerbuild in 6 hours Oo11:41
apacheloggersource build that is Oo11:42
Riddellapachelogger: yes, it is the update_grub variable,  works fine if I fix that!11:48
apacheloggerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMY5VGYh2Go11:50
BluesKajHiyas all12:00
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apacheloggeryofel: ping12:53
apacheloggeryofel: do you haz wiki for neon?12:54
yofelapachelogger: there is https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon and the techbase page12:55
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apacheloggeryofel: I'll add kf5 documentation tomorrow13:54
apacheloggerand fiddle builder into autobuilding ^^13:54
yofel\o/13:54
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shadeslayerapachelogger: curious, can we import each qt git repo separately? or do all of them have submodules in their history?14:45
shadeslayerqt5 that is14:45
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yofel_shadeslayer: there are imports I created ages ago14:52
yofel_I think 2 have submodules14:52
yofel_(qtbase and something else)14:52
shadeslayerokay, and do you know why everything was grouped under p-n-qt ?14:53
shadeslayerinstead of having a separate source for each module14:53
yofel_harald's personal preference IIRC14:54
* yofel_ off - bbl14:55
apacheloggerno14:56
apacheloggerbecause that is how one is supposed to build qt from git14:56
apacheloggerso that seems like the sanest thign to do considering there is creepy stuff like if .git; make stuff work;14:57
shadeslayerapachelogger: and building each submodule isn't supported?14:57
apacheloggershadeslayer: it is15:02
apacheloggeryou are just not supposed to do it15:02
apacheloggerit only gives you a headache15:02
apacheloggernothing more to it15:02
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markeyapachelogger: cmake question: my test for QtOpenGL is like this: find_package( Qt4 4.8.2 COMPONENTS QtOpenGL )15:54
markeyhow do I check if it's true or false?15:54
markeyi.e. I can't figure out how to access the component part15:55
shadeslayerdon't you usually check with something like : if (QTOPENGL_FOUND) blah blah blah ?15:56
markeyyes, but it doesn't work here as QtOpenGL is a component of Qt415:56
shadeslayeroh 15:57
shadeslayerokay15:57
Riddellmarkey: there wil be variables set for every qt library16:04
markeythat's what I assumed, but what are these?16:04
Riddelllook in FindQt.cmake ?16:04
Riddell(I've got a fresh install so not on my machine)16:04
markeyhehe ok, I was hoping to prevent that ;)16:05
markeyalright16:05
apacheloggermarkey: I don't think you need to find_package at all16:05
Riddell#  QT_QTOPENGL_FOUND        True if QtOpenGL was found.16:05
markeyah :)16:06
markeythanks Riddell 16:06
apacheloggermarkey:     macro_log_feature(QT_QTOPENGL_FOUND "Qt OpenGL" "Qt OpenGL support is required for blah blah" "" TRUE)16:06
apacheloggerTRUE/FALSE being requiredness16:06
markeyworks, Riddell :)16:07
markeyRiddell: remember this crash issue with QtScript? was it fixed in Qt 4.8.3?16:12
markeycause we depend on 4.8.2 currently, and we should probably bump it then16:12
Riddellmm I think I've lost track of qtscript issues I'm afraid16:15
markeynot a problem. I suppose it can't hurt to bump to 4.8.3 anyway16:15
Guest48668markey: that's fixed in 4.8.416:21
Guest48668...16:21
markeyI'm pretty sure it was 4.8.3, only with Kubuntu it was different due to some patch16:21
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yofelmarkey: ah right, it was fixed in 4.8.3, which introduced a regression that lead to it being reverted and that was fixed in 4.8.416:22
markeyyup, slightly confusing16:23
markeyI never understood really how that happened :)16:23
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apachelogger    - Drop kubuntu_pate_find_python.diff, kubuntu_kate_initial_preference.patch,18:05
apachelogger      kubuntu_find_python.diff from debian/patches , not required18:05
apacheloggershadeslayer: why is initial-pref not required?18:05
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1174713] systemsettings package contains random plunder @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174713 (by Harald Sitter)18:15
* ScottK knew who filed that one just from the title.18:25
* genii sips his coffee and ponders "random plunder"18:34
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ahoneybunhey valorie20:05
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ScottKWhoever is uploading 4.10.5, did you check that all those packages really have changes or are you just uploading them all?21:02
yofelScottK: I am - and the script already did the check21:04
yofelyou'll get 42 packages in total21:04
ScottKOK.21:04
ScottKI saw a few that hadn't been touched since .2, so I was concerned.21:04
yofelRiddell: please never add additional changelog entries to the SRU packages in the PPA or I end up with stuff like http://paste.kde.org/79326221:05
ScottKYou did fix that, right?21:05
yofelScottK: that's mostly pino fixing icon paths and stuff like that for debian I think :/21:05
ScottKOK.21:06
yofelScottK: thankfully the 3 packages that looked like that got auto-rejected because the tarball wasn't uploaded21:06
ScottKExcellent.21:06
Noskcajcan one of you guys have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/nootka/upstream-merge21:07
NoskcajTo update terminus, should i try and get debian to update first or go straight to ubuntu/kubuntu?21:09
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yofelWTH, since when is this channel +t o.O21:19
yofel[16:14:36] *** Mode #kubuntu-devel +t by orwell.freenode.net21:19
yofel...21:19
skellatyofel: ChanServ hasn't been having a good day21:21
yofelyeah, I noticed..21:21
Noskcaji've finally got sflphone done, https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/sflphone/merge-1.2.3-2/+merge/17406121:24
shadeslayerapachelogger: IIRC applied upstream21:36
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kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1195007] qt patch introduces fatal gdk_x_error handler @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1195007 (by Patrick Oßmann)21:58
ScottKyofel: I started accepting stuff.22:25
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Noskcajfor bug 812134 should i go straight through ubuntu or go debian then ubuntu?22:32
ubottubug 812134 in xfonts-terminus (Ubuntu) "Konsole + Terminus font, wrong line alignment (Update to terminus 4.38)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81213422:32
ScottKGenerally Debian first is better if you can manage it.22:35
Noskcaji'll try but they have little reason to upgrade22:37
ScottKyofel: No nepomuk-widgets changes?23:11
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