=== cmagina is now known as cmagina-away [03:37] Damn, my login screen doesn't load (in X without Mir) [03:38] The Ubuntu one. [03:38] ScottK, when can you approve my SRU? [03:46] smartboyhw: i doubt he's still awake at this time of night [03:46] also i really wanted to give a much more smart aleck answer to that [03:47] maco: aleck? [03:47] What's that word? [03:47] it's me not saying ass in the channel ;) [03:47] maco: LOL [03:47] "smart aleck" is what adults say around children instead of "smart ass" at least where i'm from [03:57] maco: It's not even midnight yet. [03:57] smartboyhw: I'll take a look, but I don't promise to be comfortable with accepting them. [03:58] ScottK: grownup jobs start eaaaaaarly and bed times seem to get earlier and earlier as the years go on [03:58] my bedtime used to be 4am. it is now midnight. [03:58] maco: sleep is for the weak. [03:58] or 1 at the latest [03:58] smartboyhw: What release where then uploaded for? [03:59] Admittedly, I was weak for about 3 1/2 hours last night. [03:59] s/then/they// [03:59] ScottK: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" [04:05] ScottK: Raring only [04:06] Since the package don't exist in Precise or Quantal [04:07] ScottK: Um, it's not uploaded yet, the .debdiff is attached to the relative bugs [04:30] smartboyhw, i am here [05:29] Noskcaj: Duh, now since my Ubuntu can't go into the login screen (a bug discussed in ubuntu-devel) now I've fallen back to my own Chromium OS build:P [05:30] I'll have to wait to tomorrow before a i get a VM of kubuntu, i'm looking at packaging guides now. What do you recommend i do to start off? [05:30] Noskcaj: Um, let me find the link [05:31] ok [05:31] Noskcaj: Wait, you mean what guides to look for, or which packages you want to start? [05:31] packages, probably. but anything [05:42] nevermind, i found a video tutorial [05:49] smartboyhw: You don't want me to upload it, you want me to accept it after someone else has uploaded it. [06:01] ScottK: oh great, let me get Riddell or yofel or shadeslayer_ or apachelogger to do it [06:02] Noskcaj: Well, try to work on package upgrades in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=kubuntu-packaging [06:02] * new versions [06:02] That's a simplier start:) [06:33] smartboyhw, what the process for package updating? use bug 1196978 as an example [06:33] bug 1196978 in sflphone (Ubuntu) "Please update sflphone to 1.2.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1196978 [06:37] good morning [06:44] since smartboyhw seems to be busy, can someone show me how to start updating the packages? [06:48] Noskcaj: um look at the packaging guide [06:48] Normally Kubuntu people just copy the debian/ folder into the new version [06:48] But for me, I would want to use bzr merge-upstream or uupdate [06:49] ok [06:58] normally we use uupdate too, but when teaching people how to do it then it's good to show them at least once how it's done by hand [06:58] good morning btw. [07:05] can someone take a look at bug 1179207, i've uploaded a fix branch [07:05] bug 1179207 in nootka (Ubuntu) "Please update nootka to 0.8.77~beta" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1179207 [07:08] for sflphone, i assume debian needs to update first [07:48] yofel: please upload .debdiff at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/ibus-cangjie/+bug/1189083 to raring [07:48] Launchpad bug 1189083 in ibus-cangjie (Ubuntu Raring) "Make "Preferences" button work in "IBus Preferences"" [Undecided,Confirmed] [07:49] ScottK needs someone to upload so he can approve [08:18] smartboyhw: I'm no MOTU, either do a regular sponsorship request or ask someone else [08:18] yofel: I did do one, no one cared it for me:( [08:19] Riddell: I think you are Core Dev , so help me plz:P [08:20] true, it's in the sponship queue. I guess people are busy [08:45] can someone review https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/sflphone/merge-1.2.3-2 and https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/nootka/upstream-merge [08:45] i probably did something wrong on the first one === ryan_ is now known as rshort [09:20] Noskcaj: Looking at your merge proposal, is the Ubuntu-specific changes in 1.2.0-3ubuntu1 not applicable to 1.2.3 anymore? [09:21] I hadn't found the how-to yet for that then, but i'm pretty sure it's good. [09:23] Noskcaj: here's the simple question: Does the Debian package 1.2.3-1 contain nepomuk-core-dev as build-dep? [09:24] smartboyhw: what's needed? [09:24] i have to go, bye [09:25] Riddell: upload an SRU for me [09:25] Bug 1189083 and Bug 1189085 (same .debdiff attached) [09:25] bug 1189083 in ibus-cangjie (Ubuntu Raring) "Make "Preferences" button work in "IBus Preferences"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1189083 [09:25] bug 1189085 in ibus-cangjie (Ubuntu Raring) "ibus-cangjie missing dependency gir1.2-ibus-1.0" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1189085 [09:25] Upload it to raring [09:26] raring-updates, you know... [09:26] ScottK will help to approve after I or people in the Linux HK Community tested it [09:27] smartboyhw: sure will look in a bit [09:28] Riddell: Many thanks!!!! [09:44] xnox: ping [09:54] xnox: hi, I have been looking at implementing a wireless page in the kde frontend for ubiquity [09:54] xnox: it looks doable, but it would need moving the gtk specific bits of ubiquity/nm.py into a separate file, does it sound doable to you? [09:55] well except for the model passed to the NetworkManager class, for this I would write a qt adapter [09:55] agateau: sure, sounds good. [09:55] agateau: there is a pending change to remove password field, and instead ask "NetworkManager connect to this SSID" such that then networkmanager can prompt for passwords as it sees fit / needed. [09:56] xnox: so networkmanager would pop up a dialog to ask for the password? [09:57] xnox: that sounds less integrated than the current solution, what is the reason for this change? [09:57] oh, maybe password-less wifi [10:01] agateau: current one doesn't know if/when password is needed, so there are cases where it demands one (when networkmanager doesn't need one) or doesn't ask for a password, but it is needed. [10:01] for certain wifi configurations. [10:02] xnox: ok. offloading more work to network manager is probably more robust anyway [10:02] xnox: only worry is whether kde frontend of networkmanager supports this [10:03] xnox: is the change in a proposed branch? [10:03] surely one could hijack a possible nm password window and integrate it in ubiquity using weird X magic [10:03] (not that I think that this would be a good idea ;)) [10:04] apachelogger: yeah, don't use Xsocket, that like will not work on.... Mir. [10:04] and ubiquity kind of needs to work on Mir with default toolkits =) [10:05] (shh, don't write the M* word here) [10:05] surely one could hijack a possible nm password window and integrate it in ubiquity using weird Mir magic? :P [10:06] OTOH, agateau, depending on which piece of software displays the dialog you possible could wire the kdeui to whatever nm-kde thing there is [10:07] apachelogger: assuming this whatever nm-kde thing as a dbus api or python bindings [10:07] i.e. nm-kde forwarding password request to ubiquity, kdeui goes "weeh" and animated a password field appearing or something, user enters password, password is sent to nm-kde [10:08] agateau: well, in the mid-term adding simple api for that may not be a big problem [10:08] apachelogger: agreed, but that's out of scope for 13.10 I think [10:08] + [10:08] just write a trello card for 14.04 :P [10:09] heh :) [10:09] let me first figure out if i can get a basic wireless page running [10:09] kdesupport built \o/ [10:11] agateau: while you are poking in ubiquity, please have a look at the "Proper spell-checking support enabled by default" thread on kubuntu-devel [10:11] for some reason we don't get an update-notifier file setup if ubiquity did an incomplete l10n installation [10:12] not having a working plymouth after install is more important than spell checking [10:12] oh that is true [10:12] Riddell: you uploaded the SRU yet? [10:12] Hello apachelogger [10:13] yo smartboyhw [10:13] smartboyhw: not yet sorry will get to it shortly [10:14] 1 → 75 of 1211 results [10:14] :O [10:14] only 1211 reports [10:14] grub2 seems well triaged :O [10:15] mmm, I have zero plymouth knowledge [10:15] and I am not sure i want to get some [10:17] agateau: it needs update-grub being called after install [10:17] at least that's /a/ fix for it, not sure why it's a problem at all for kubuntu when it wasn't before and isn't for ubuntu desktop [10:17] bug 1171099 [10:17] Riddell: is this a new requirement? [10:17] bug 1171099 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu Saucy) "kubuntu - plymouth not shown" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1171099 [10:18] I don't think I will have the time to look into this [10:19] agateau: fair enough [10:20] Riddell: I know the cause of the bug [10:20] well in grub I do [10:20] in terms of ubiquity I actually think the problem is in d-i [10:25] apachelogger: do you know why we have it an ubuntu desktop doesn't? [10:26] smartboyhw: ibus-cangjie uploaded to raring-proposed [10:28] Riddell: awesome! MANY THANKS! [10:34] Riddell: yes [10:34] Riddell: in terms of grub [10:34] well [10:34] it's a cascaded issue [10:35] ubiquity/d-i doesn't write the default_cmdline for some reason (though according to my research it should...) [10:35] and grub's postinst also doesn't write it (or actually it tries to write a null one) [10:47] Riddell: correction... ubiquity/d-i set the value but do not run update-grub afterwards such that the setting is not applied [10:48] was update-grub not run at all, or run before the value got set? [10:49] apachelogger: that sounds like something which should be easy enough to fix [10:49] dunno, I didn't find out why exactly it refused to run update-grub [10:50] d-i/source/grub-installer/grub-installer has some stuff about running update-grub [10:50] xnox: I think it may have been run before setting the value, but I am not sure on the details to be honest [10:51] Riddell: yeah it does not get run [10:51] IIRC there is an if very much towards the end of the file that would if evaluating to true run update-grub [10:52] and that is the one that should be executed from a process flow POV [10:52] mm my installer log from this ubuntu desktop install mentions.. [10:52] Jul 8 18:24:33 ubuntu ubiquity: run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.8.0-26-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-26-generic [10:53] needs to be after that [10:53] but the log doesn't show that grub-installer script running update_grub [10:53] it shows grub-installer script doing other stuff [10:54] grub-installer is very silent by default [10:54] grub-installer actually correclty fixes the cmdline in default/grub [10:54] that's why a manual update-grub run brings back plymouth, it's really just the update-grub invocation that is not executed :/ [10:56] Eh:( [10:57] Riddell: hmm I still can't see the upload in LP [10:57] smartboyhw: it'll be in the raring unapproved queue [10:57] needs ~ubuntu-sru to approve it [10:58] apachelogger: my bash isn't great, update_grub () has a variable called $update_grub for the command, I wonder if that name clash gets confused [10:59] Riddell: oh yeah, ScottK to do the work [11:00] apachelogger: just testing with this it does get confused http://paste.kde.org/792890/ [11:01] ScottK: and I think at the same time you can approve the kscreen and libkscreen SRUs:P [11:01] Riddell: I am not looking at it right now :P [11:02] Riddell: if you call update_grub() it should work btw [11:02] apachelogger: I'll give it a test, a long shot but maybe that's the issue === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.90 saucy/archive, raring/beta, quantal/staging WIP | 4.10.5 raring/ppa, quantal/ppa, precise/ninjas WIP | 13.10 Alpha 1 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.90 saucy/archive, raring/beta, quantal/staging WIP | 4.10.5 raring/ppa, quantal/backports, precise/ninjas WIP | 13.10 Alpha 1 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj [11:15] quantal 4.10.5 now in backports [11:17] smartboyhw: btw. could you please fix up the calligra 2.6.3 backports please? They're in dep-wait: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=calligra [11:17] yofel: ha? I'm leaving for airport within 1 hour [11:18] ah ok, nvm then [11:18] And I'm not in HK until 31st July [11:18] have a nice trip! [11:18] yofel: it's a vc problem [11:18] vc doesn't exist in raring [11:33] s/raring/quantal/ [11:33] smartboyhw meant: "vc doesn't exist in quantal" [11:34] ~kubuntu-ppa/ppa 14.8 GiB (92.40%) of 16.0 GiB [11:34] I think we need a cleanup [11:36] there's not much we can remove from the backports [11:37] yofel: Oops [11:37] Hopefully it won't be full one day [11:40] Good bye guys, see you after 3 weeks, best of luck:) [11:41] yofel: with ever so far reaching backports I reckon a size bump is in order [11:41] workspace build triggered [11:41] build in 6 hours Oo [11:42] source build that is Oo [11:48] apachelogger: yes, it is the update_grub variable, works fine if I fix that! [11:50] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMY5VGYh2Go [12:00] Hiyas all === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina [12:53] yofel: ping [12:54] yofel: do you haz wiki for neon? [12:55] apachelogger: there is https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon and the techbase page === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback === zorael^ is now known as zorael === debfx_ is now known as debfx === Riddelll is now known as Riddell [13:54] yofel: I'll add kf5 documentation tomorrow [13:54] and fiddle builder into autobuilding ^^ [13:54] \o/ === popey_ is now known as popey === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina [14:45] apachelogger: curious, can we import each qt git repo separately? or do all of them have submodules in their history? [14:45] qt5 that is === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away [14:52] shadeslayer: there are imports I created ages ago [14:52] I think 2 have submodules [14:52] (qtbase and something else) [14:53] okay, and do you know why everything was grouped under p-n-qt ? [14:53] instead of having a separate source for each module [14:54] harald's personal preference IIRC [14:55] * yofel_ off - bbl [14:56] no [14:56] because that is how one is supposed to build qt from git [14:57] so that seems like the sanest thign to do considering there is creepy stuff like if .git; make stuff work; [14:57] apachelogger: and building each submodule isn't supported? [15:02] shadeslayer: it is [15:02] you are just not supposed to do it [15:02] it only gives you a headache [15:02] nothing more to it === shadeslayer is now known as Guest33135 === yofel_ is now known as Guest48668 === PaulW2U is now known as Guest78283 === maco is now known as Guest69219 === ferai is now known as Guest73696 === Guest69219 is now known as maco === Guest78283 is now known as PaulW2U === Guest33135 is now known as shadeslayer [15:54] apachelogger: cmake question: my test for QtOpenGL is like this: find_package( Qt4 4.8.2 COMPONENTS QtOpenGL ) [15:54] how do I check if it's true or false? [15:55] i.e. I can't figure out how to access the component part [15:56] don't you usually check with something like : if (QTOPENGL_FOUND) blah blah blah ? [15:56] yes, but it doesn't work here as QtOpenGL is a component of Qt4 [15:57] oh [15:57] okay [16:04] markey: there wil be variables set for every qt library [16:04] that's what I assumed, but what are these? [16:04] look in FindQt.cmake ? [16:04] (I've got a fresh install so not on my machine) [16:05] hehe ok, I was hoping to prevent that ;) [16:05] alright [16:05] markey: I don't think you need to find_package at all [16:05] # QT_QTOPENGL_FOUND True if QtOpenGL was found. [16:06] ah :) [16:06] thanks Riddell [16:06] markey: macro_log_feature(QT_QTOPENGL_FOUND "Qt OpenGL" "Qt OpenGL support is required for blah blah" "" TRUE) [16:06] TRUE/FALSE being requiredness [16:07] works, Riddell :) [16:12] Riddell: remember this crash issue with QtScript? was it fixed in Qt 4.8.3? [16:12] cause we depend on 4.8.2 currently, and we should probably bump it then [16:15] mm I think I've lost track of qtscript issues I'm afraid [16:15] not a problem. I suppose it can't hurt to bump to 4.8.3 anyway [16:21] markey: that's fixed in 4.8.4 [16:21] ... [16:21] I'm pretty sure it was 4.8.3, only with Kubuntu it was different due to some patch === Guest48668 is now known as yofel [16:22] markey: ah right, it was fixed in 4.8.3, which introduced a regression that lead to it being reverted and that was fixed in 4.8.4 [16:23] yup, slightly confusing [16:23] I never understood really how that happened :) === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina [18:05] - Drop kubuntu_pate_find_python.diff, kubuntu_kate_initial_preference.patch, [18:05] kubuntu_find_python.diff from debian/patches , not required [18:05] shadeslayer: why is initial-pref not required? [18:15] ::workspace-bugs:: [1174713] systemsettings package contains random plunder @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1174713 (by Harald Sitter) [18:25] * ScottK knew who filed that one just from the title. [18:34] * genii sips his coffee and ponders "random plunder" === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter === yofel is now known as Guest395 === ashams is now known as Guest64962 [20:00] ... === genii is now known as Guest71967 === Guest395 is now known as yofel === Guest71967 is now known as genii [20:05] hey valorie === AlanChicken is now known as AlanBell === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina [21:02] Whoever is uploading 4.10.5, did you check that all those packages really have changes or are you just uploading them all? [21:04] ScottK: I am - and the script already did the check [21:04] you'll get 42 packages in total [21:04] OK. [21:04] I saw a few that hadn't been touched since .2, so I was concerned. [21:05] Riddell: please never add additional changelog entries to the SRU packages in the PPA or I end up with stuff like http://paste.kde.org/793262 [21:05] You did fix that, right? [21:05] ScottK: that's mostly pino fixing icon paths and stuff like that for debian I think :/ [21:06] OK. [21:06] ScottK: thankfully the 3 packages that looked like that got auto-rejected because the tarball wasn't uploaded [21:06] Excellent. [21:07] can one of you guys have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/nootka/upstream-merge [21:09] To update terminus, should i try and get debian to update first or go straight to ubuntu/kubuntu? === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.90 saucy/archive, raring/beta, quantal/staging WIP | 4.10.5 raring/queue, quantal/backports, precise/backports | 13.10 Alpha 1 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj [21:19] WTH, since when is this channel +t o.O [21:19] [16:14:36] *** Mode #kubuntu-devel +t by orwell.freenode.net [21:19] ... [21:21] yofel: ChanServ hasn't been having a good day [21:21] yeah, I noticed.. [21:24] i've finally got sflphone done, https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/sflphone/merge-1.2.3-2/+merge/174061 [21:36] apachelogger: IIRC applied upstream === hubbard.freenode.net changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.90 saucy/archive, raring/beta, quantal/staging WIP | 4.10.5 raring/ppa, quantal/backports, precise/ninjas WIP | 13.10 Alpha 1 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj === maco is now known as Guest16117 === Guest16117 is now known as maco === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.90 saucy/archive, raring/beta, quantal/staging WIP | 4.10.5 raring/queue, quantal/backports, precise/backports | 13.10 Alpha 1 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away [21:58] ::qt-bugs:: [1195007] qt patch introduces fatal gdk_x_error handler @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1195007 (by Patrick Oßmann) [22:25] yofel: I started accepting stuff. === AlanChicken is now known as AlanBell [22:32] for bug 812134 should i go straight through ubuntu or go debian then ubuntu? [22:32] bug 812134 in xfonts-terminus (Ubuntu) "Konsole + Terminus font, wrong line alignment (Update to terminus 4.38)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812134 [22:35] Generally Debian first is better if you can manage it. [22:37] i'll try but they have little reason to upgrade [23:11] yofel: No nepomuk-widgets changes? === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away