[05:04] <domniconanna> kkkkkk
[05:07] <domniconanna> good morning, and good job for  Ubuntu core apps hack days
[05:14] <Noskcaj> i don't think they've started yet
[05:17] <domniconanna> for my time zone, Italy, will begin at 11.00 am
[05:21] <odraencode> :|
[05:21] <odraencode> I wish my image viewer could replace shotwell
[05:21] <odraencode> But my image viewer is too hardcore.
[06:36] <dholbach> good morning
[06:47] <dpm> good morning all
[08:27] <Noskcaj> Is anyone else having issues with clock app in qmlscene?
[08:48] <WebbyIT> Hi all! I did a patch for new event in Calendar app, and I worked side by side with Kunal to did it. Unfortunately in those days Kunal is very busy, so he said me to ask here if someone can review my merge request: https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calendar-app/1193090/+merge/170957
[08:49] <JamesTait> Good morning all, happy Don't Step On A Bee Day! :-D
[08:50] <WebbyIT> (Uops, I'm in advance of about ten minutes, I hate UTC :-/)
[09:00] <Nasreddine> I'm new in Qml/Qt
[09:01] <Nasreddine> I need a quick quide
[09:02] <popey> hi Nasreddine
[09:02] <Noskcaj> Nasreddine, developer.ubuntu.com
[09:02] <popey> yeah, we have a getting started guide on that site
[09:02] <popey> and a simple tutorial there too
[09:02] <popey> there's also a lot of info on the upstream qt digia website
[09:03] <Nasreddine> thanks popey, I have seen these tutotials
[09:04] <Nasreddine> I have a question about Right-To-Left apps, Is it supported in the current version of the SDK ?
[09:05] <popey> I don't think so, bzoltan
[09:05] <popey> ?
[09:05] <dpm> Nasreddine, translations themselves should be supported, although we haven't tested them yet
[09:06] <dpm> Nasreddine, however shifting UI elements to the other side is not yet implemented as far as I know
[09:06] <Nasreddine> so, not RTL layout till now
[09:07] <Nasreddine> I'll see the translation
[09:08] <dpm> Nasreddine, yeah, if you could help with the testing for translations, that'd be awesome
[09:09] <Nasreddine> I'll try, in fact I'm a developer, I want to build some apps in Arabic language
[09:09] <dpm> awesome!
[09:09] <Nasreddine> what about changing used font in the app
[09:09] <popey> dpm: did you see we tried to enable translations for all core apps then got a bit stuck in lp config?
[09:09] <Nasreddine> ?
[09:10] <popey> dpm: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps the ones on the right..
[09:10] <popey> mhall119: thought we may have to generate pot files for them??
[09:11] <dpm> bummer, I cannot change the channel's topic
[09:11] <WebbyIT> Hi all! I did a patch for new event in Calendar app, and I worked side by side with Kunal to did it. Unfortunately in those days Kunal is very busy, so he said me to ask here if someone can review my merge request: https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calendar-app/1193090/+merge/170957
[09:12] <dpm> WebbyIT, oh wow, thanks a lot! We'll get someone to review it. oSoMoN, do you think you might have some time to review this MP? ^^
[09:12] <dpm> popey, where exactly did you get stuck in LP? Did you follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Translations ?
[09:13] <oSoMoN> dpm, WebbyIT: sure, I’ll try to review it today
[09:13] <popey> nope
[09:13] <popey> ☻
[09:13] <WebbyIT> oSoMoN, dpm thanks :)
[09:13] <popey> set the global settings..
[09:13] <dpm> popey, so not it's your chance to road test the instructions :)
[09:13] <dpm> *now
[09:13] <popey> oof
[09:13] <popey> ok
[09:14] <dpm> that's excellent, 15 mins into the hackfest and we get our first merge proposal :)
[09:14]  * popey does it now for terminal
[09:14] <popey> haha, excellent
[09:15] <dpm> popey, let me know if you get stuck and if I can help. The part on configuring Launchpad on the instructions should be good to go, but the part on internationalizing the code is a bit more complex and will take me some more time
[09:15] <popey> dpm: ok, found a problem
[09:16] <popey> step 4 of Series-specific settings
[09:16] <popey> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/trunk
[09:16] <popey> "Click on the Change synchronization settings link in the Automatic synchronization section"
[09:16] <popey> I see no "change synchronization"
[09:16]  * dpm tries
[09:17]  * dpm fixes
[09:18] <popey> we should be keeping a track of these things we're fixing in the hackday for later reporting
[09:18]  * popey makes a doc
[09:19] <dpm> popey, fixed it, thanks! -> the link to click on is "Set up branch synchronization"
[09:19] <dpm> good idea
[09:21] <popey> done, added you to the doc and mhall119 and jono
[09:21] <popey> lets try and keep it updated as we go
[09:21] <dpm> popey, cool, jono will just love another google doc ;)
[09:22]  * dpm thinks it's a good idea to keep track of the activities and report them
[09:24] <popey> ok, done terminal app as per your instructions, can you check it's okay please?
[09:24] <popey> and I'll do the others
[09:25] <UbuPhillup> if i open calendar-app in the menu the translation for german are too long: http://ubuntuone.com/2kxGeCLQGDEtLMTnvka7Qh is this a known bug, because its in all translated core-app
[09:26] <andricorso> hello
[09:26] <popey> hello andricorso
[09:26] <UbuPhillup> which have a menu
[09:27] <popey> UbuPhillup: not a known bug that I'm aware of
[09:27] <thor_> hello all :)
[09:27] <popey> hi thor_
[09:27] <rahulmahamna> hello
[09:27] <popey> hi
[09:27] <Owlree> hello, people
[09:28] <UbuPhillup> popey: so shoud i report it?
[09:28] <rahulmahamna> anybody here ?????
[09:28] <popey> UbuPhillup: please do!
[09:28] <popey> rahulmahamna: lots
[09:29] <rahulmahamna> jalkjflkajfl
[09:31] <dpm> hi thor_, Owlree UbuPhillup and everyone else! Welcome to the calendar hackfest!
[09:33] <Guest3993> hi
[09:35] <dpm> good morning Mirv, do you think you could help thor_ with some issues installing the SDK on 13.04? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5861100/
[09:36] <dpm> popey, do you have the link to the upstream bug you filed for qmlscene not loading on Virtualbox handy?
[09:37] <popey> i do
[09:38] <popey> i have it permanently open, hoping one day someone will fix it
[09:38] <popey> https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-32225
[09:43] <UbuPhillup> popey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1199699
[09:43] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1199699 in Ubuntu Clock App "German translation in the menu needs more space" [Undecided,New]
[09:44] <popey> thank you UbuPhillup
[09:55] <dpm> oSoMoN, sorry for keep adding to your TODO, I guess we'll be pinging you more today during the Calendar hack day. When you've got some time, it'd also be great if you could look at https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/yearview/+merge/173743
[09:56] <oSoMoN> dpm: yeah, will do
[10:02] <Mirv> dpm: initially it sounds like not everything would have been updated
[10:02] <Mirv> I'm checking how does my raring chroot look like
[10:03] <Mirv> all up-to-date, qtcreator starts fine
[10:04] <Mirv> dpm: thor_: I don't directly know what could be wrong, so it'd need some tinkering to try to find what's the issue. among else dpkg -l *qt* | grep 5.0.1 should only show qtwebkit packages
[10:05] <Mirv> that error message occurs if some of the libraries that Qt doesn't allow to be different version, is different version, and specifically says some library would be 5.0.1 while others 5.0.2
[10:05] <Mirv> dpkg -l qtcreator | cat should give 2.7.1-0ubuntu1~raring1~test10 as the Qt Creator version
[10:08] <thor_> @Mirv : i purged all qt4* and libqt5* packages, reinstalled ubuntu-sdk and it worked
[10:08] <thor_> thanks
[10:08] <Mirv> thor_: hmmkay :P good that you found a solution.
[10:13] <WebbyIT> My second mr for calendar app: https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calendar-app/1198652/+merge/173901 (I did today my last exam, so now I have a lot of free time for utouch) :D
[10:23] <dpm> WebbyIT, excellent, thanks!
[10:24] <dpm> WebbyIT, glad to hear that, your help on calendar is much welcome :-)
[10:26] <WebbyIT> dpm: i don't know if you remember, but i started to collaborate about two months ago, unfortunately university takes me a lot of time, so i didn't do much, but now i will recover the time lost :)
[10:29] <dpm> WebbyIT, I do remember, glad to have you back!
[10:34] <dpm> popey, do you want to join #qt-labs? We might be getting some traction on the Virtualbox qmlscene bug
[10:35] <dpm> and they have some questions
[10:39] <popey> dpm: did you see above, translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps - I did terminal but it's still on the right, not on the left?
[10:41] <dpm> popey, that's probably because we don't have a po/ubuntu-terminal-app.pot file committed to the branch. It's relatively easy to get, but it takes a bit more work to document. I'll see if I can finish the documentation today
[10:41] <popey> ok, shall I setup the others?
[10:42] <dpm> popey, sure, it makes sense, if you want to, go for it!
[10:42] <popey> ok, will do
[10:46] <angel96_> gg
[10:56] <sathya> lk
[10:56] <sathya> ls
[10:56] <sathya> hey guys
[11:47] <ytuhejdj> is here a discoussion started?... or just finished?...
[11:49] <dpm> ytuhejdj, we're here to help everyone get started, so if you've got any questions or need any help just let us know
[11:49] <dpm> well, too late
[11:49] <victorp> dpm QTC seems broken in 12.04
[11:49] <victorp> I can enable ssh to the device
[11:50] <dpm> Mirv, any ideas about what could be going on with QtC on 12.04? ^^
[11:51] <dpm> popey, we're also not building the core apps packages for 12.04 in the daily PPA. Do you know whether there was any particular reason why we're not doing it? Shall we just enable 12.04 builds?
[11:52] <victorp> 12.04 is still the desktop that most people are sticking too outside Ubuntu contributos
[11:52] <victorp> we should make sure the SDK just works for 12.04
[11:53] <popey> dpm: we can try to test them on 12.04, for sure.
[11:54]  * victorp thanks the touch terminal developer
[11:54] <victorp> :)
[11:56] <Mirv> dpm: I haven't tested, jppiiroinen may have (the latest Qt Creator precise upgrade was done during my vacation)
[11:58] <dpm> popey, yeah, I think it'd make sense to enable the 12.04 builds, as I've already seen 2 comments where people were asking for it. Do you want to have a look at enabling those builds, or do you want me to do it?
[11:58] <popey> for core apps we need to speak to fginther
[11:58] <popey> for collection we don't.
[11:59] <dpm> jppiiroinen, could you help victorp with his QtC issue on 12.04?
[11:59] <dpm> victorp, you mention SSH not working on QtC. Is that it, or do you have other issues with it?
[12:00] <victorp> dpm -  I have worked aroud it by installing ssh manually
[12:00] <victorp> dpm - enabling developer mode fails
[12:00] <dpm> oh actually
[12:00] <popey> interesting
[12:00] <dpm> I had the same problem on 13.04
[12:00] <dpm> I thought it was a glitch
[12:00] <jppiiroinen> hmm
[12:00] <popey> you get a log in qtcreator
[12:00] <dpm> and did the same as you
[12:00] <popey> be good to get that
[12:00] <popey> well, console output in a window
[12:00] <dpm> i.e. manual installation of openssh-server
[12:01] <jppiiroinen> i run precise myself here
[12:01] <dpm> popey, gotcha. Why do we need to talk to fginther? Because we need to add Jenkins jobs?
[12:01] <jppiiroinen> it would be interesting to see what happened, as if there was some temporary issue with package management etc on the device
[12:03] <dpm> jppiiroinen, next time it happens to me on 13.04 I'll report a bug. IIRC, the issue on the QtC connection log was that openssh-server could not be installed, so there wasn't much I could debug from that. But I think you're right in that it might point to a packaging management issue
[12:03] <popey> yes
[12:03] <popey> i have a clean precise VM, I could test qtcreator there (assuming it will see my phone over USB)
[12:03]  * popey tests
[12:04] <jppiiroinen> doing the same here with my n7
[12:05] <popey> So my test plan is. Boot clean VM, follow qtcreator install instructions from developer.ubuntu.com, plug phone in, enable developer mode, right?
[12:06] <jppiiroinen> popey: im starting from phablet-flash
[12:06] <popey> ok, will do that too,
[12:12] <om26er> tmoenicke, so the real keyboard is nemo-keyboard package ?
[12:15] <om26er> I start the maliit-server from terminal and a transparent window appears on my desktop
[12:22] <popey> bah, virtualbox can't see my tablet
[12:23]  * popey tries other things
[12:31] <tmoenicke> om26er: no. maliit-keyboard and maliit-keyboard-data
[12:31] <om26er> tmoenicke, so  I just figured and maliit-keyboard is not build for any other architecture than armhf
[12:31] <tmoenicke> om26er: yep
[12:32] <om26er> tmoenicke,  I build it on i386 and installed it. now maliit-server crashed with: open /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libpinyin/data/pinyin_index.bin failed!
[12:32] <om26er> is there a way to build without pinyin support ?
[12:33] <tmoenicke> om26er: can you install libpinyin?
[12:34] <om26er> tmoenicke, yes its installed, but I think the maliit-keyboard is hardcoded to use libpinyin from the arm dir  ?
[12:38] <om26er> FWIW /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpinyin/data/pinyin_index.bin does exist. its just the maliit-server is looking in the wrong dir :/
[12:53] <denisw> hi, is there already calendar-app hacking going on? :)
[12:54] <thor_> hi again does any DatePicker component exist in the available components?
[12:55] <popey> hey denisw sure
[12:56] <denisw> unfortunately i don't have the time to help out currently (I have a bachelor thesis to write), but I hope this will change in the future
[12:57] <denisw> i'm very excited about a set of core apps directly from the ubuntu community, especially if they will scale to the desktop eventually
[12:57] <micah2> How much more do you have to go on your thesis?
[12:58] <denisw> i'll probably be done at the beginning of september
[12:59] <micah2> Cool, then you'll definitely have time to jump in before 14.04.
[12:59] <denisw> yeah, that would be great
[12:59] <denisw> are there any plans to make the apps desktop-ready in the 14.04 cycle?
[13:00] <denisw> (or rather, more pleasant on the desktop, given that they already run on standard ubuntu)
[13:03] <micah2> There's been recent work on the conditional layouts, so I'd imagine it will be possible.
[13:05] <denisw> cool. is there already already an app using conditional layouting, or has only infrastructure work been done for now?
[13:08] <WebbyIT> A question: when I propose a merge, have I to change the bug status in Fix Commited or have to leave In Progress?
[13:09] <micah2> I know today is about the Calendar, but I'm trying to get up and running with helping with the Music app. Anyone here who can bring me up to speed with the music app?
[13:10] <popey> WebbyIT: in progress until it lands, then it's fix committed/fix released
[13:10] <WebbyIT> popey: ok, thanks
[13:17] <jppiiroinen> popey: i was able to enable the developer mode on my workstation, i will do next a full bootstrap flashing
[13:21] <popey> jppiiroinen: still installing bits here, it's a precise install on a usb stick
[13:22] <jppiiroinen> dpm: the best tip for victorp is to remove the openssh-server manually and try to re-enable the developer mode
[13:22] <jppiiroinen> and also to make sure that he has the latest device image
[13:37] <dpm> popey, joining the music app call?
[13:37] <popey> ah
[13:37] <popey> i don't have hangout capability because my laptop is booted to precise on a usb stick
[13:38] <popey> can't install debs right now as it's mid install qtcreator and friends
[13:47] <popey> Mirv: jppiiroinen  ok, first issue after install sdk on a clean precise install... http://paste.ubuntu.com/5861669/
[13:47] <popey> looks like adb permissions issue
[13:48] <popey> ya, sudo adb works around it
[13:49] <popey> Mirv: jppiiroinen problem is /usr/share/qtcreator/scripts/device_search then kills the adb server and restarts as non-root
[13:50] <dpm> popey, no worries. I just talked to Daniel Holm about getting the scanning functionality in shape to get the music app in the default images and the hackfest. He's going to be there tomorrow
[13:51] <popey> ta
[13:53] <mhall119> hello hello
[13:53] <mhall119> how's the hack day going?
[13:53] <dpm> hey mhall119
[13:53] <dpm> we had a branch submitted
[13:54] <mhall119> \o/
[13:54] <dpm> and Kunal worked on prototypes for the week and year view. He's not here today, but he prepared it for the hackfest in advance
[13:54] <dpm> he's a rockstar
[13:54] <UbuPhillup> mhall119: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/+bug/1199461
[13:54] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1199461 in Ubuntu Terminal App "The app is not translatable" [Undecided,In progress]
[13:56] <mhall119> UbuPhillup: look at popey go!
[14:00]  * popey is currently working on making sure sdk works out of the box on precise 
[14:05] <HeavenlyGamesBos> When does the calendar event happen?
[14:05] <HeavenlyGamesBos> Calendar hack a-thon
[14:05] <mhall119> dpm: wow, kunal did all of that work just recently?
[14:06] <mhall119> HeavenlyGamesBos: happening now
[14:07] <mhall119> HeavenlyGamesBos: what do you want to get started with?
[14:10] <dpm> mhall119, yeah, check out the e-mail he sent us, he's awesome
[14:14] <popey_> stupid irc
[14:15] <mhall119> dpm: can we get those new changes merged?
[14:15] <jono> hey all
[14:16] <UbuPhillup> hi ho jono
[14:18] <jono> hey UbuPhillup :-)
[14:19] <jono> dpm, mhall119 how is the hackfest coming? I see some branches :-)
[14:24] <WebbyIT> Where can I find a tutorial/documentation about autopilot test?
[14:24] <mhall119> balloons: ^^
[14:25] <balloons> WebbyIT, you can find the information on developer.ubuntu.com. Let me get you the link: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/cookbook/mobile/how-to-write-autopilot-tests/
[14:25] <mhall119> jono: I'm looking over the MPs now, Kunal did some great work on the UI for the new designs
[14:25] <jono> mhall119, yeah I saw the vid, has that landed?
[14:25] <mhall119> not yet
[14:25] <WebbyIT> thanks balloons :)
[14:26] <Aviral> do you think that create event popup in calender app will be changed?? or will be modified??
[14:26] <balloons> your most welcome WebbyIT. Once you've finished with that, let me know and I can help you look at writing your first autopilot test :-)
[14:26] <mhall119> Aviral: it might be,why?
[14:27] <Aviral> actually it lokks a bit old fasioned
[14:27] <WebbyIT> balloons: ok, thanks :) I'll ping you in the evening :)
[14:27] <Aviral> the ui of calender app is very nice and ui of the pop up  looks a bit odd
[14:28] <mhall119> Aviral: there a different look on http://design.canonical.com/2013/06/solving-multiple-calendar-views/
[14:29] <dpm> jono, yeah, WebbyIT is keen to help with the Calendar app and has already sent 2 merge proposals too
[14:30] <jono> awesome
[14:32] <Aviral> mhall119: ya now it looks awesome :)
[14:36] <dpm> bfiller, did we have a mentor from your team for the weather app? With so many apps I'm losing track
[14:37] <jppiiroinen> popey: afaik, that was a workaround for some other bug with adb
[14:38] <dpm> wow WebbyIT is on fire, I just saw another merge proposal from him, now for the weather app!
[14:48] <mhall119> balloons: I'm getting an error trying ot run autopilot on the calendar
[14:48] <mhall119>   File "/home/mhall/projects/Ubuntu/sdk/pure-qml/ubuntu-calendar-app/tests/autopilot/calendar_app/tests/__init__.py", line 12, in <module>
[14:48] <mhall119>     from autopilot.input import Mouse, Touch, Pointer
[14:48] <mhall119> ImportError: No module named input
[14:48] <balloons> mhall119, I'm guessing your didn't install autopilot from the ppa
[14:48] <balloons> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:autopilot/ppa
[14:48] <balloons> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libautopilot-qt python-autopilot
[14:48] <mhall119> ah, yeah, probably not
[14:49] <balloons> :-) It needs the newer 1.3 version which isn't in the archive
[14:49] <mhall119> why not?
[14:50] <balloons> well it launched well afterwards, but that's how they want to handle it.. leave the version of autopilot that shipped with the release in the release
[14:50] <balloons> so saucy has 1.3, raring does not for instance
[14:50] <balloons> well I guess your on saucy.. so hmm.. let's check
[15:13] <bfiller> dpm: I think weather was gusch but need to check
[15:14] <WebbyIT> dpm: and here another one for clock :) Very small, but there is an open bug https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-clock-app/1191291
[15:15] <mhall119> WebbyIT: you are rocking it today!
[15:16] <WebbyIT> mhall119: oh, thanks :) I just finish my exams, so i have a lot of free time
[15:30] <WebbyIT> is there a way to run ticker app not on port 8080? I can't access it
[15:37] <mhall119> ticker app?
[15:39] <balloons> the stock ticker?
[15:40] <WebbyIT> balloons mhall119 yes, the stock ticker
[15:49] <mhall119> what does it use port 8080 for?
[15:49] <mhall119> I'm confused
[15:49] <WebbyIT> mhall119: i don't understand, it's looking for ttp://www.surgemcgee.com:8080/?f=sabl1vpghojkc8dre7j1n&s=yhoo
[15:50] <WebbyIT> * http://www.surgemcgee.com:8080/?f=sabl1vpghojkc8dre7j1n&s=yhoo
[15:50] <WebbyIT> mhall119: because i cannot access to it remains endlessly turning circle on startup
[15:50] <mhall119> oh....yeah, yeah can't have that
[15:51] <mhall119> surgemcgee_: there's a server-side component for the stock ticker?
[15:53] <surgemcgee_> Yes, I even published a npm module for it https://npmjs.org/package/apache-log
[15:53] <surgemcgee_> That code is antiquated as well. Do not use.
[15:54] <WebbyIT> BTW, not being able to use it I have created an error message, more userfriendly https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/stock-ticker-mobile-app/error-dialog/+merge/173977
[15:54] <nik90|Mobile2> hey WebbyIT I will review your mp for the clock app in another hour or so?
[15:54] <nik90|Mobile2> will u be online then?
[15:55] <WebbyIT> nik90|Mobile2: np, when you have time :) Yes, for next 5-6 hour i'll be available
[15:55] <nik90|Mobile2> thanks a lot for it
[15:55] <surgemcgee_> Ok, I will take a lokk at it.
[15:55] <nik90|Mobile2> awesome
[15:57] <WebbyIT> nik90|Mobile2: if you prefer I'll be available also in next days
[15:57] <nik90|Mobile2> this weekend?
[15:58] <WebbyIT> nik90|Mobile2: yes, also
[15:58] <mhall119> surgemcgee_: where is the code for the server-side component?
[15:58] <nik90|Mobile2> I work during the day..so am very busy with that. however when I get home I am free :)
[15:58] <surgemcgee_> I wasn't sure if I sure ptu it publis
[15:58] <surgemcgee_> I wasn't sure if I sure put it public*
[15:59] <nik90|Mobile2> perfect WebbyIT.  thanks for the support. It is very much appreciated at this crucial stage.
[15:59] <mhall119> surgemcgee_: since the stock ticker is in the core apps now, we should try and get the server-side piece running on Canonical's servers
[16:00] <WebbyIT> nik90|Mobile2: thanks you for your time
[16:00] <surgemcgee_> Cool, can I admin?
[16:00] <surgemcgee_> I am quilifies.
[16:00] <surgemcgee_> I am quilified.* Jeesh (speeling)
[16:05] <kaleo> mhall119, nik90, bug of disappearing tabs fixed
[16:05] <kaleo> mhall119, nik90, now I want a cute screenshot :)
[16:05] <mhall119> kaleo: \o.
[16:05] <mhall119> was it a bug in the SDK or Clock?
[16:06] <kaleo> mhall119, sdk
[16:06] <kaleo> mhall119, you need to pull from the dark_gradient_themes branch
[16:07] <nik90|Mobile2> mhall119 can u
[16:10] <mhall119> kaleo: same branch as yesterday?
[16:10] <kaleo> mhall119, yes
[16:12] <mhall119> ok
[16:12] <surgemcgee_> Has anyone got any thoughts regarding the spining loaders at the app start up which rely on a internet connection?
[16:13] <surgemcgee_> I was tempted to put "loading..." text into the listviews with a error message if the conection was un-successfull.
[16:14] <mhall119> kaleo: nik90: http://ubuntuone.com/0ga6FiDINrvXJtzs71LfIi
[16:14] <kaleo> mhall119, nice
[16:34] <nik90> mhall119: u joinging hangout?
[16:36] <mhall119> nik90: finishing up a calendar backend call, I'll join when I can, but don't wait on me
[16:41] <nic-doffay> kaleo, so I've done two additional components for the SDK.
[16:42] <nic-doffay> A generic expandable item which is now used in the OptionSelector too.
[16:42] <nic-doffay> and am now working on a ScrollingContainer which will be used hand in hand for that.
[16:42] <nic-doffay> Any suggestions for another name are welcomed too...
[16:42] <kaleo> nic-doffay, sounds ok
[17:03] <limurx> Hey there, may I ask if a whatsapp app is in scope of the developement? Matthias Gehre wrote first implementation and even held a presentation about it, but this project was discontinued.
[17:04] <limurx> Or do you want the whatsapp devs to handle this by their own?
[17:04] <ayr_ton> limurx, https://answers.launchpad.net/whosthere/+question/231055
[17:06] <mhall119> limurx: the whosthere app required a hack to get an auth token, which was unsustainable
[17:06] <mhall119> and whatsapp wasn't agreeable to working together with us to come up with a more official solution
[17:08] <limurx> Thanks for your answers. Sad news, gotta hope the Ubuntu Phone gets too popular to ignore
[17:09] <mhall119> limurx: you can help by asking the whatsapp developers to support it :)
[17:12] <limurx> mhall119: You bet! (Or the people start using a more open technology like WebRTC till then)
[17:24] <raptur> hello, is this thing up and running yet?
[17:39] <mhall119> raptur: if you mean the hack day, yes
[17:44] <raptur> thanks michael
[17:52] <nik90> WebbyIT: you there?
[17:52] <WebbyIT> nik90: yap
[17:52] <nik90> we can discuss your MP.
[17:53] <WebbyIT> nik90: this one?  ListItems.Subtitled {                     id: timePickerButton                     text: qsTr("Time")                     subText: Qt.formatTime(selectedDateTime, qsTr("hh:mm"))                     anchors {                         left: parent.left                         right: parent.right                     }                     visible: timeModeSelector.selectedIndex !== 0                     onClic
[17:53] <WebbyIT> Sorry, bad paste :-/
[17:53] <WebbyIT> https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-clock-app/1191291
[17:53] <nik90> yes I was referring to it
[17:54] <nik90> First of all, I do not think that the bug report is valid in the first place.
[17:54] <nik90> I had a meeting with the platform developers and mhall
[17:54] <nik90> They believe that QDate() will get the timezone of the system.
[17:55] <nik90> So I am not sure why this was reported in the first place as a bug.
[17:56] <WebbyIT> problem is in the code: first pick up the time with Date (that get right timezone) and after sums the difference with UTC, so it's become UTC
[17:57] <nik90> this bug was reported before that code was merged into trunk
[17:57] <nik90> the line you are referring to
[17:57] <nik90> Although I do agree to your logic that the diff is messing stuff up
[17:57] <nik90> but the diff is necessary to allow the user to set a world city as his current location
[17:58] <WebbyIT> so, is necessary to check if city and timezone are the same?
[17:58] <nik90> so I am guessing we might need a if loop or something which allows other cities to be set as the current location or take the timezone from the system
[17:59] <nik90> WebbyIT: yeah I guess so. Although I am not sure how to do that
[17:59] <WebbyIT> nik90: gotcha. I have to think on it, it's not simply
[17:59] <nik90> WebbyIT: I am actually a bit confused as well
[18:00] <nik90> WebbyIT: We have to first consider both cases. I will try to put this into a google docs and share it with you.
[18:01] <WebbyIT> nik90: great
[18:02] <nik90> kaleo: can we expect your dark-gradients branch to land by this week end?
[18:02] <WebbyIT> nik90: thanks for your availabilty :)
[18:02] <kaleo> nik90, yes
[18:03] <nik90> kaleo: awesome, thnx.
[18:03] <nik90> WebbyIT: no. thank you for helping :)
[18:20] <mhall119> thank you both for being awesome :)
[18:20] <popey> \o/
[18:21] <UbuPhillup> ;)
[18:26] <nik90> Anyone interested in participating in the whole clock, world clock can take a look at https://docs.google.com/document/d/10f7sU1POjFWc1y1afiV3IynJxDQartyFsXcpexI--7w/edit?usp=sharing
[18:27] <raptur> quit
[18:57] <MadTux> what's going on here?
[19:01] <mhall119> hi MadTux
[19:03] <mhall119> MadTux: how are you interested in getting involved?
[19:05] <MadTux> Have to go now
[19:05] <UbuPhillup> So no ;)
[19:44] <zeokila> So what exactly happens on htis channel, is it only for the hack days, or is it for all Ubuntu applications development based stuff?
[19:45] <mhall119> zeokila: this channel is always here, for any kind of app development on Ubuntu
[19:45] <mhall119> we're just using it as a place to gather for the Core Apps hack days
[19:46] <zeokila> Ok, thanks
[19:46] <mhall119> no problem
[19:46] <mhall119> did you want to get involved with one of the core apps?
[19:46] <zeokila> Well maybe not just yet, I've actually started developing a non-core app
[19:47] <kaleo> nik90, the AnimationContainer class is odd, weird and unexpected
[19:47] <kaleo> nik90, can we remove it? what's its use?
[19:47] <mhall119> zeokila: oh? what does it do?
[19:47] <kaleo> nik90, (if you need to have scrollable content you should use http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-flickable.html)
[19:48] <nik90> kaleo: It provides the swipe up/down animation
[19:48] <kaleo> nik90, what is that animation?
[19:48] <nik90> kaleo: in the clock app, you can swipe up to show more options. It does indeed work like a flickable
[19:49] <nik90> kaleo: but at that time, we had some issues implementing the flickable. May be I should give it a try again
[19:49] <zeokila> mhall119, it's going to be (if I manage) an eBook reader, but I'm pretty much new to QML, and have no C++ experience (though I have knowlege in other languages) so I'm going to have quite a lot to learn, which is great, build and learn :D https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-read/
[19:49] <kaleo> nik90, definitely
[19:49] <kaleo> nik90, especially because the swipe behaviour is behaving oddly
[19:50] <nik90> kaleo: what do you mean by behaving oddly?
[19:50] <kaleo> nik90, it gets stuck
[19:50] <nik90> I had renato_ 's help in implementing it
[19:50] <mhall119> zeokila: nice!  I've been wanting an ebook reader, now I don't have to write it myself :)
[19:50] <kaleo> nik90, and it does not bounce like usual
[19:50] <kaleo> nik90, well renato_ did not do his best :)
[19:50] <nik90> kaleo: yes it does not bounce.
[19:50] <kaleo> nik90, oh, and if you don't use a Flickable the content might not be clipped correctly by the header with the gradient
[19:50] <kaleo> nik90, with the new gradient background
[19:50] <nik90> kaleo: alrite, I will change that to a flickable
[19:50] <kaleo> nik90, thanks!
[19:51] <zeokila> haha, well lets hope I manage to develop it ;)
[19:51] <kaleo> nik90, less code makes me happy :)
[19:51] <nik90> kaleo: :)
[19:51] <mhall119> zeokila: make you you talk about it on a blog, Google+, and elsewhere, you'll probably find other interested developers
[19:51] <nik90> kaleo: I already have 2-3 local branches doing just that.
[19:52] <zeokila> mhall119: good idea, though I think maybe I should get the core functionality starting before?
[19:52] <mhall119> FYI, there's also a PDF renderer available that was created for the ubuntu-docviewer-app project on Launchpad
[19:52] <mhall119> zeokila: I'd say promote it as soon as you have even enough for a screenshot
[19:53] <zeokila> mhall119: oh, well I might do that now then ^^ though how do I make it so others find it, hashtags (for g+)?
[19:53] <mhall119> zeokila: post it to https://plus.google.com/communities/111350780270925540549
[19:54] <zeokila> mhall119: thanks :) also, thanks for your tutorials, they helped kickstart me a lot :D
[19:57] <mhall119> zeokila: glad they're useful
[20:01] <nik90> kaleo: is there a way to change the color of a transparent button? When I used the transparent color, the text is white and hence not visible.
[20:02] <nik90> kaleo: I meant change the *text color* of transparent button
[20:03] <kaleo> nik90, where do you use that kind of button?
[20:04] <nik90> kaleo: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XFEE_1vaxYE/UdlfDshUE9I/AAAAAAAAB2U/LQtRqO9oul4/s1600/stopwatch_home.jpg
[20:05] <nik90> because of this I am currently defining a lable and an image within the button to change the color of the label myself
[20:06] <kaleo> nik90, for now you should use AbstractButton and layout an icon and a label
[20:07] <kaleo> nik90, for the colors of both you should use Theme.palette.normal.backgroundText
[20:08] <nik90> kaleo: ok. This shouldnt be an issue once the backgrounds lands. THe text will then become visible
[20:56] <AskUbuntu> Qt creator HTML5 project -lsqlite3 | http://askubuntu.com/q/318666
[22:54] <AskUbuntu> Why is the libindicator reporting all scroll event signals as UP? | http://askubuntu.com/q/318697
[22:56] <popey> oh look a bug I confirmed and isnt fixed ☹