| roasted | hello friends | 00:38 |
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| roasted | having a surprisingly good experience @ 13.10 alpha | 00:38 |
| roasted | 3.10 kernel is pure <3 | 00:38 |
| darkxst | pointer barriers too ;) | 00:39 |
| roasted | pointer barriers... for dual monitor setups? | 00:39 |
| darkxst | well pressure ones | 00:39 |
| darkxst | for message tray and activities | 00:39 |
| roasted | er, I didn't think that was in 13.10 yet due to 1.13 xorg? | 00:39 |
| roasted | I thought that was a 1.14 xorg feature? | 00:39 |
| darkxst | 1.14 has landed | 00:39 |
| roasted | oh nice | 00:40 |
| roasted | I simply edited my messageTray.js to something far less obnoxious than a 1000ms delay time. | 00:40 |
| roasted | how many devs are on the UbuGnome team? | 00:40 |
| darkxst | only a few | 00:42 |
| roasted | well you guys do a good job | 00:43 |
| roasted | that's for dang sure | 00:43 |
| roasted | I admittedly keep bouncing between Ubuntu GNOME and Fedora, but I'm just not seeing what I'm gaining by going to Fedora. Ubuntu GNOME has all I need. | 00:43 |
| roasted | at least, 13.10 will. the 3.10 kernel fixes some issues I was having on this particular laptop (so far, it seems) | 00:43 |
| mkeer | Hey... I was logging out from Ubuntu Gnome and it was taking a very long time (at least 5 minutes) | 03:00 |
| mkeer | I ended up turning my computer off | 03:01 |
| mkeer | and now I see Failed to load session "gnome" | 03:01 |
| mkeer | so I can only use the command line... | 03:01 |
| mkeer | any idea what is wrong? | 03:01 |
| bjsnider | mkeer, you're at the console? | 03:34 |
| mkeer | not right now | 03:36 |
| mkeer | (I logged on my windows computer) | 03:36 |
| mkeer | but I can access the console if I reboot... | 03:36 |
| bjsnider | well, if you're looking for a quick, one-word answer to what's wrong, there isn't one | 03:37 |
| mkeer | hmm, more precisely I have both Windows and Ubuntu on the same computer, but im on windows right now | 03:37 |
| mkeer | do you think just doing sudo apt-get install gnome | 03:37 |
| mkeer | would help? | 03:37 |
| mkeer | or like, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell or whatever its called | 03:38 |
| bjsnider | you have provided no background at all, so i can't say what would help | 03:38 |
| bjsnider | there are logs you can investigate | 03:38 |
| bjsnider | the package is ubuntu-gnome-desktop, not gnome | 03:39 |
| mkeer | ok, what logs can i look at? | 03:40 |
| jbicha | mkeer: which version of Ubuntu GNOME are you running? | 03:41 |
| bjsnider | do you know which display manager you're using, ie. lightdm or gdm? | 03:43 |
| mkeer | gdm | 03:49 |
| mkeer | Ubuntu GNOME 13.04 | 03:49 |
| bjsnider | yeah, so the log is ~/.cache/gdm/session.log | 03:49 |
| bjsnider | you might get some good info out of that | 03:49 |
| mkeer | ok ill check it out | 03:50 |
| mkeer | ty | 03:50 |
| mkeer | gnome-session[2285]: WARNING: Session 'gnome' runnable check failed: Child process exited with code 1 | 04:00 |
| mkeer | doesn't seem very helpful | 04:00 |
| roasted | \ | 04:03 |
| roasted | oops | 04:04 |
| mkeer | doing a sudo apt-get install gnome | 04:12 |
| mkeer | hopefully it will help.... | 04:12 |
| roasted | mkeer: he just said gnome isn't what you want. | 04:13 |
| mkeer | i did try sudo apt-get ubuntu-gnome-desktop and it didnt help | 04:13 |
| roasted | what about reinstalling it? (bjsnider jump in if I'm wrong). Something like, sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-gnome-desktop | 04:14 |
| mkeer | ok... so the situation is a bit better... However, I see 2 tabs on the top | 04:17 |
| mkeer | Applications and Places | 04:17 |
| mkeer | which is not quite what I want | 04:17 |
| roasted | sounds like classic mode, I believe | 04:18 |
| mkeer | yes | 04:18 |
| jbicha | mkeer: what ppas do you use? | 04:19 |
| mkeer | no idea | 04:19 |
| jbicha | it sounds like a graphics driver issue | 04:19 |
| mkeer | Well, I dont know what ppas are | 04:19 |
| jbicha | oh don't worry about it, PPAs allow installing extra software that aren't in the Ubuntu repositories but that can cause problems sometimes | 04:20 |
| mkeer | I mostly just installed development stuff... python, eclipse,... | 04:20 |
| mkeer | not very much crazy stuff | 04:20 |
| mkeer | mostly stuff with installed with apt-get and python libraries... | 04:21 |
| jbicha | that should be fine | 04:21 |
| mkeer | do you think the fact that I did sudo apt-get install gnome caused this problem? | 04:22 |
| roasted | what GPU do you have mkeer | 04:22 |
| mkeer | Nvidia NVS 160m | 04:22 |
| mkeer | I installed the drivers from the NVIDIA website | 04:22 |
| jbicha | mkeer: that might be your problem | 04:23 |
| roasted | yeah.... | 04:24 |
| roasted | I never install GPU drivers from their site. I always get them from the drivers menu or repos of whatever distro I'm using. | 04:24 |
| mkeer | but everything was working fine at first | 04:24 |
| jbicha | until you rebooted? | 04:24 |
| mkeer | well, I logged off and the system seemed to hang | 04:24 |
| jbicha | the new driver doesn't activate until you log off | 04:25 |
| mkeer | its possible that it was installing updates or something, but it didnt tell me so | 04:25 |
| mkeer | so should I be using the Nouveau drivers or...? | 04:26 |
| mkeer | ok, im looking at some guide for installing nvidia drivers | 04:34 |
| mkeer | Beautiful | 04:39 |
| mkeer | Thank you very much to both of you | 04:39 |
| mkeer | Blah... very many graphical glitches however | 04:40 |
| mkeer | screen turning partially black... | 04:40 |
| jbicha | basically I'd recommend figuring out how to uninstall the nvidia drivers you downloaded from their website, reboot and then use the final tab of the Software & Updates tool to try the available packaged drivers if you like | 04:48 |
| mkeer | Do you recommend lightdm vs gdm? | 04:50 |
| jbicha | there's not much difference but gdm has better integration with GNOME Shell (pretty lock screen) | 04:52 |
| mkeer | my cpu jumps to 30% usage just my moving the system monitor window | 04:56 |
| mkeer | nothing else is running | 04:56 |
| mkeer | not normal, right? | 04:56 |
| mkeer | My CPU is a T9600... quite old, but still 2.8ghz or so | 04:56 |
| jbicha | if you don't have working 3D acceleration from your graphics driver/card, GNOME Shell falls back to using CPU acceleration | 05:02 |
| mkeer | do you work for ubuntu gnome? | 05:08 |
| mkeer | (or contribute) | 05:08 |
| jbicha | yes, it's a volunteer project and I'm a volunteer | 05:09 |
| mkeer | im surprised by how linux distributions maintain consistency despite having people working from all over the world | 05:14 |
| namela | ubuntu -gnome say me that : 'can`t load session 'gnome' | 06:49 |
| namela | what can i do '? because i install this so yesterday... | 06:49 |
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| vramana | Hello After reading this article http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/lubuntu-kubuntu-decide-against-mir-switch. I have waited for long time for some official announcement from Ubuntu GNOME But I haven't seen any. Can anybody what will happen to Ubuntu Gnome in future?? | 18:18 |
| jbicha | vramana: there isn't anything really to announce at this point | 19:05 |
| vramana | Oh okay. | 19:07 |
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| bjsnider | at some point, it's going to be wayland | 20:08 |
| bjsnider | whent hey're finished developing it in 48 years | 20:08 |
| vramana | bjsnider: Gnome 3.12 aims to use wayland by default. | 20:18 |
| vramana | It's release is around March 2014 | 20:19 |
| vramana | So may be I can expect Ubuntu Gnome to use wayland on 14.10 I guss | 20:19 |
| vramana | *guedd | 20:19 |
| vramana | *guess | 20:20 |
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