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delinquentmewoah. weird.00:00
delinquentmea bunch of pictures from my old phone are 77700:01
sarnoldprobably they came off a FAT filesystem and the kernel did the best it could...00:01
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roastedQuestion - does crontab care about time format? As in, a 1 AM execution... 01 vs 1 for the hour?04:28
akurilin2Does it matter to disable root login on instances like those in EC2, where the only possible login is for a non-root user with a known SSH key?05:20
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rbasakjamespage: around? You might be interested in an OpenJDK session here in half an hour. http://lce-13.zerista.com/event/member/7965207:29
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zap707anyone there?09:42
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zap707anybody???09:43
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zap707will anbdy answer me?09:46
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xnoxrbasak: what do you think about ruby 2.0 in saucy? a friend of mine made a source package and send it to me.....11:10
rbasakxnox: is Debian on 2.0 yet? AIUI, Ruby packaging is extremely painful so I'm less happy about there being an Ubuntu delta to maintain.11:12
xnoxrbasak: there is ITP.11:13
xnoxrbasak: and hundrets of people making half-broken guides "how to install ruby 2.0 on " (12.04 13.04)11:13
xnoxrbasak: i'll poke debian people.11:13
rbasakxnox: AIUI, upstream and the Ruby community generally abhor using distro packages. So as I see it, packaging Ruby in Ubuntu is only useful for dependencies, rather than for users to use directly.11:16
rbasakThe official way to install Ruby appears to involve curl|sh11:16
rbasakI'd love to see that change, but in the meantime I'm not sure who we'd be helping by maintaining a delta anyway.11:16
xnoxrbasak: it's not a delta, but a new package, not default.11:17
xnoxrbasak: and sync it when debian has it.11:17
rbasakI'd still call that a delta. Just terminology.11:17
xnoxlet me nudge debian to upload and see what happens =)11:17
rbasakPerhaps a PPA would be a good place to start instead.11:17
rbasakI'm just worried that we'd cause more confusion and dislike than help. But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.11:22
Davieyxnox: I am pretty reluctant for Ubuntu to go differently to Debian with ruby atm.  We have a hard enough time maintaining the current offering of ruby :)11:27
yolandahi, seeing that problem trying to do an apt-get update for saucy: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/eu-west-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_universe_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch11:56
yolandadoesn't sound good11:57
jamespageutlemming, see yolandas question ^^12:10
seiflotfy_hi guys12:10
seiflotfy_how do i create a snapshot of the current precise server ubuntu repositories.12:10
ogra_seiflotfy_,  there are no "server repositories" :)12:20
ogra_seiflotfy_, what you could do is to set up a package proxy ... run a local debootstrap,install ubuntu-server in the chroot (all using that proxy) and then take a snapshot of the proxy archive that created12:22
ogra_or use a constant local archive mirror and fish out the packages (and deps) the server seed defines12:22
yolandajamespage, utlemming, i cannot do an update, at least from the eu mirror12:23
seiflotfy_debmirror?12:23
yolandais that happening in other ones?12:23
jamespageyolanda, no idea12:31
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koolhead17melmoth: hola14:12
melmothhola koolhead1714:13
koolhead17melmoth: long time how is life man?14:13
melmothcalm.14:13
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lynxman_melmoth: bonjour14:15
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melmothhehe bouchour lynxman !14:15
lynxmanmelmoth: ;)14:16
koolhead17ohai lynxman :d14:17
koolhead17melmoth: where are u these days man?14:19
melmothkoolhead17,  strasbourg. I do not know when/where i m going next14:19
lynxmankoolhead17: o/14:19
koolhead17lynxman: so how is devOps life treating you :ds14:19
koolhead17melmoth: aah your home14:19
melmothyep.. home sweet home.. But it s a noisy neighboorhood (especially the hurd of elephant upstair) i think i need to find a more sweet home.14:20
lynxmankoolhead17: so far so good ;) will see you at HK?14:20
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koolhead17lynxman: not sure if i will come. But yes fingers crossed :D14:27
lynxmankoolhead17: cool! :)14:27
* melmoth think he will not be there...14:29
melmotha shame, i so like dumplings.14:29
koolhead17melmoth: who knows you will travel & return back from there before us :D14:30
melmothtrue. one never knows.14:30
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koolhead17lynxman: so all chef work these days?14:34
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lynxmankoolhead17: way more than that ;)14:36
lynxmanmelmoth: domage :(14:36
koolhead17lynxman: <evil grin>14:36
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brendan-anyone experiencing issues with 12.04 server that the rpc.ipmapd process(es) get hung14:53
brendan-i've had it happen on more than 1 machine at different times, but not sure where to begin to troubleshoot14:53
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dlloydwho pissed off nickserv15:55
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theazmanDoes anybody know of a web based equivalent to onenote that we can host on our servers?16:49
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lflucas hi, I'm trying to setup nfs_v4 between two computers ubuntu 12.04. But I'm not able to get automatic idmap working, since the user IDs are different in both machines. Is it a bug?17:22
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lflucasWhat is the solution to do the mapping between the same users using different UIDs on NFSv4?17:31
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Chocobodoes anyone know of a PPA or other repository with a version of Qemu >= 1.3?18:42
AdamSmithHello18:50
zuladam_g:  ping18:51
shodan45freenode having troubles today?18:51
adam_gzul, hey18:51
zuladam_g:  why isnt websockify in pydist-overrides?18:52
adam_gzul, ? where?18:52
zuladam_g: pydist-overrides, if its in there then it will be ignored when trying to install the package18:52
zul(like argparse)18:52
adam_gzul, in nova?18:53
zuladam_g:  yeah18:53
zulactually its already there18:53
adam_git is there18:53
zuladam_g:  ok nevermind then18:53
TheSovwould anyone know why my system just starts transmitting from to the network card the moment i attach a 20TB iscsi disk?18:53
TheSoverr mount* not attach18:53
adam_gzul, the reason i added the patch to avoid it in requirements.txt is that, with the new entry-point loading, every single nova package will need websockify as a depends. and it pulls in a bunch of stuff18:54
zuladam_g:  ok gotcha18:54
AdamSmithso how did you guys get into developing open source software?18:54
hallynChocobo: 1.5 is in saucy...19:05
hallynnot sure what the cloud archive ppa has but i would assume 1.3 or 1.519:05
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zulhallyn:  cloud archive will have qemu for havana219:12
hallyni'm sure that means something19:12
hallyn:)19:12
hallynreally i don't know what he wanted it for...  if he needed it built for a specific release or what.  so <shrug>19:13
hallynbut 1.4 is in raring, 1.5. in saucy.  one of those should be good enough.19:13
Chocobohallyn: cloud-archive seems to have 1.019:28
hallynChocobo: that's surprising.  zul: i thought cloud archive was based on raring?19:32
zulhallyn:  saucy for havana19:32
zulhallyn:  which will be updated soon19:32
Chocobohmmm, odd.19:33
hallynChocobo: ^ i don't use the cloud archive myself, don't know wher eyou're looking...  but if nothing else you can grab the package source from raring or saucy archive and build your own19:33
akurilin2Quick question: does it make sense to disable PermitRootLogin in sshd_config if the machine only has one key anyway, for another user?19:34
akurilin2Like EC2 ssetup19:34
Chocobohallyn: Interesting... I have this repo "deb http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise-updates/grizzly main"   Is there a way to list the version of qemu just in that repo?19:36
wxlChocobo: correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't apt-cache policy give you this information?19:40
Chocobowxl: it may, I am quite new to ubuntu unfortunately.   Hrmmm19:41
wxlChocobo: try sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy qemu19:41
Chocobowxl: http://pastie.org/pastes/8129014/text19:43
ChocoboI don't even see the grizzly cloud archive repo in the list...  I know it is there because I have grizzly installed :P19:43
ChocoboAnd it looks like I should be getting qemu-1.5.0  http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/pool/main/q/qemu/19:44
wxldoes sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade upgrade ya?19:46
wxl(it should)19:46
Chocobowxl: it does, but qemu is not in the list of upodated packages.19:47
wxlhm.19:47
wxland that deb line you mentioned is in /etc/apt/sources.list?19:48
Chocobowxl /etc/apt/sources.d/cloud.list19:48
wxlwell that's not too surprising19:48
ChocoboWhat isn't?19:49
wxlthe location19:49
ChocoboSo that should be ok?19:49
wxlshould be19:49
Chocobo:/19:50
wxlthe only thing that i've never seen before is the precise-updates/grizzly snytax19:50
wxl i assume you are on precise right?19:50
Chocobowxl: sorry, I didn't copy the whol line:  http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise-updates/grizzly main19:51
wxl(lsb_release -c)19:51
Chocobowxl: Codename:       precise19:51
wxlbrb phone19:51
Chocoboman this is odd.19:52
Chocobowxl: http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/dists/precise-updates/grizzly/main/binary-amd64/Packages19:54
ChocoboIt looks like qemu is not included for grizzly!?19:55
* Chocobo weeps.... openly.19:55
wxlwell libvirt-bin suggests it19:59
wxl>=0.9.120:00
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Chocobohuh20:01
wxllong story short if grizzly/cloud/whatever is not supplying >1.0, canonical ain't going to give you any more20:03
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Chocobowxl: looks like I will be building from source.   Crap :/20:04
wxlwell you could install the deb from that url20:04
wxlbut i'm not sure that will cause other dependency issues20:05
Chocobowxl: there are a lot (10's) of dependencies.20:05
wxlmy experience with ubuntu repos is they're usually separated by os version20:05
wxlwhereas this cloud archive appears to have no such delineation20:05
wxlhas it only been released with precise?20:05
wxlif so, you can probably survive with downloading and installing the deb20:06
wxle.g. wget http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/pool/main/q/qemu/qemu_1.5.0+dfsg-3ubuntu2~cloud0_amd64.deb && sudo dpkg -i qemu_1.5.0+dfsg-3ubuntu2~cloud0_amd64.deb20:07
Chocobowxl: so just try to install the one I need, look for the dependency problem... download the dependency and install that... so on and so on?20:07
wxlmore or less, yes20:07
Chocobowxl.  Ok, thanks.   I am nervous that they didn't include 1.5 with Grizzly.   I guess it would be easy enough to back out of though.20:08
wxlluckily, unlike building from source, you'll just need to install packages (either from main repos or debs as above but the former is certainly preferred) rather than having to track down which dev packages have the libraries you need20:08
wxlis there a channel for grizzly?20:08
Chocobowxl: doesn't look like it.20:09
wxlrather openstack20:09
wxlsorry don't know what i'm talkig about :)20:09
Chocobowxl: there is, I asked but no one seems to be around.20:09
wxlyeah try #openstack maybe20:09
Chocobowxl: ok, thank you for the help!20:10
wxlChocobo: sorry i couldn't do more!20:10
wxlChocobo: for further help you might check https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/ubuntucloud.html#ubuntu-cloud-troubleshooting20:10
Chocobowxl: thanks again.  I think I will send a message to the mailing list and see what I get back.20:11
wxlsounds like a good plan20:11
TheSovwhat would be a good reason to add an l2arc20:50
TheSovjust a huge working set?20:50
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nrzeubuntu server any good,21:33
wxlas good as apples21:34
wxlexcept it doesn't keep the doctor away21:34
debian-n00bdo I have to create a seperate zone file for each domain I want to provide dns for?21:35
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debian-n00bI want two domains to resolve to the same ip. How do I do this in my bind config?21:59
sarnolddebian-n00b: either use CNAME to redirect one name to the other or use another A record...22:01
debian-n00bsarnold: can I do that in the same zone file? or do I need to make another zone file for the new domain I want added?22:01
sarnolddebian-n00b: I believe you need a new zonefile for each domain22:02
debian-n00bsarnold: yeah.. that's what I was thinking. I guess my question is how do I add the reverse zone file if its already being used for the primary domain22:03
sarnolddebian-n00b: a very quick overview is available here, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/dns-configuration.html22:03
debian-n00bsarnold: lol.. yeah I read that.. .. thanks though22:03
sarnolddebian-n00b: the IP can only reverse-resolve to a single name... since it's the same IP, you might only have the three zone files -- two forward, one for each domain, and one reverse, since there's only one "zone" there...22:04
Davieydosaboy: around?22:12
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