[00:03] <coldpizza72i> sweet thanks
[00:17] <area51pilot> I've installed samba but when I select "Personal File Sharing Preferences" it says the feature cannot be enabled because the required packages are not installed on the system ... cant seem to find what else I need ... ANY IDEAS???
[00:18] <SkyCaptain> I am using the /etc/DIR_COLORS file to add color to my prompt, but when I look at Directories in a symlinked folder, they show up as light purple on bright green. In ~/, they show up normally. Can someone help me troubleshoot this?
[00:18] <SkyCaptain> is there a better option for color terminal options in Ubuntu?
[00:19] <Nowayz> Hey does somebody know how to disable directory listing on apache2
[00:19] <Nowayz> just entirely disable it
[00:27] <starkiller> hello
[00:28] <SkyCaptain> hello starkiller
[00:29] <syntroPi> waa damn windows destroyed my dvb-c hardware. now it cant be scanned with linux anymore
[00:29] <starkiller> hey, sky, i just formated my computer, and reinstall clean,
[00:29] <starkiller> i have an ubuntu center account, do you know if i can get my programs back:P?
[00:29] <SkyCaptain> Ubuntu Center as in Ubuntu Software Center?
[00:30] <starkiller> ubuntu software center:P
[00:30] <SkyCaptain> starkiller: you can definitely get your programs back, but if you have reformatted, all of your user data is lost (e.g. any customizations you made to those programs)
[00:30] <SkyCaptain> if you have certain programs you want to install quickly, I can show you how to do it from the command line in one big command
[00:32] <starkiller> that would be cool , does my ubuntu software center account saves what i had installed before:P?
[00:32] <SkyCaptain> I am not sure, I don't have extensive experience with the GUI tool since I do most of my software installing from the command line
[00:33] <SkyCaptain> you may want to take a look at this tutorial: http://www.howtogeek.com/111989/how-to-sync-quickly-reinstall-applications-on-ubuntu/
[00:33] <SkyCaptain> it might have more information on the subject than I am capable of giving
[00:34] <starkiller> because i dont even remember what i installed:P
[00:34] <SkyCaptain> check out that link, I think it describes what you're trying to do in detail
[00:35] <starkiller> wow thanks :) sky
[00:35] <Nastynaz> is there a channel for mathematics questions?
[00:36] <SkyCaptain> Nastynaz: I believe ##math is what you're looking for
[00:36] <SkyCaptain> Illmatic 4 Life
[00:36] <Nastynaz> thanks!
[00:41] <SkyCaptain> I am using the /etc/DIR_COLORS file to add color to my prompt, but when I look at Directories in a symlinked folder, they show up as light purple on bright green. In ~/, they show up normally. Can someone help me troubleshoot this?
[00:42] <SkyCaptain> is there a better option for color terminal options in Ubuntu?
[00:42] <holstein> SkyCaptain: i right click and go to profile preferences in the GUI
[00:43] <SkyCaptain> holstein: thanks, I'm running gnome-terminal from a remote system, so the GUI prefs don't factor
[00:44] <area51pilot> I've installed samba but when I select "Personal File Sharing Preferences" it says the feature cannot be enabled because the required packages are not installed on the system ... cant seem to find what else I need ... ANY IDEAS???
[00:45] <holstein> SkyCaptain: they should..
[00:45] <SkyCaptain> I get the same issue with xterm
[00:48] <maximus2> hello
[00:49] <tonho-pc> Boa noite a todos, apenas aprendendo sobre IRC.
[00:49] <maximus2> hey has any body see agora?
[00:50] <holstein> !pt | tonho-pc
[00:50] <holstein> !info agora
[00:51] <tonho-pc> Acho que entendi, obrigado.
[00:52] <__machine> im running 12.04 lts and a client tells me that apache < 2.2.24 has a few security vulnerabilities... ive done aptitude update aptitude upgrade but the version is still 2.2.22 ... is there an easy way to upgrade 12.04 lts to apache 2.2.24 or higher?
[00:53] <donvito> is kde4 avaiable on 13.04?
[00:53] <holstein> __machine: maybe PPA.. you should be getting security upgrades to 12.04 for 5 years for that
[00:53] <holstein> !info kde
[00:53] <holstein> donvito: it is...
[00:54] <__machine> holstein: yes... i guess this client is talking about security issues that ubuntu/apache dont consider an issue ?
[00:55] <holstein> __machine: i would confirm that, and disregard if not true, or patch.. or manually upgrade, or look for PPA
[00:56] <__machine> if i manually upgrade or look for PPA... i will no longer get security updates from 12.04 lts for apache, right? i will need to maintain and apply all security updates myself?
[00:56] <holstein> __machine: the agreement you have is, canonnical and the ubuntu community supports LTS's for 5 years.. so, that means you *should* be gettig security patches, not latest versions... i would confirm that though if you feel it is not true
[00:56] <holstein> __machine: if you choose to maintain the OS on your own, then yes, you will be maintaining it on your own
[00:57] <__machine> holstein: sure i understand that... but if the old version has a security issue... it would be either patched or upgraded by canonical, right? i dont know how legitimate these security issues are... just going by what client told me so far... they mentioned XSS vulnerabilities in various mod_info mod_status etc modules
[00:58] <donvito> wich one is faster kde or gnome?
[00:58] <holstein> __machine: better is always a matter of opinion, but, in theory, you can always file a bug for the package to be "patched". but, i would confirm that there is an issue
[00:58] <holstein> donvito: your machine is the speed it is, really.. i would try them both from live CD's if you want, or just install them and see for yourself
[00:58] <SkyCaptain> chan, I've figured it out. .dircolors ignores the set options if the permissions are 777 for a file. Does anyone know how to make .dircolors ignore exec permissions for a file?
[00:59] <donvito> okk
[00:59] <holstein> donvito: if i wanted a "fast" desktop, kde nor gnome would be on my list
[00:59] <holstein> !kde
[00:59] <donvito> i didnt understand soorry, you say kde is faster?
[00:59] <holstein> donvito: no.. i say, if i want 'fast', i choose neither of those
[01:00] <donvito> so wich one i need to chose?
[01:00] <tears> Hey where would I get an answer if I was looking for a way to keep a server busy on port 80 say through telnet. Without it disconnecting me.
[01:00] <holstein> donvito: depends on your needs.. and how much config you are willing to do
[01:01] <holstein> tears: why are you being disconnected? can you use ssh?
[01:01] <donvito> holstein: i own desktop pc with 128mb nvidia geforce card , intel pentium 3.0ghz 1gb of ram and 80gb of hdd, i mostly use the pc for home entertainment,facebook,videos,movies etc
[01:02] <holstein> donvito: great!
[01:02] <donvito> yes but when i use ubuntu-unity its laggy
[01:02] <donvito> so i must use ubuntu 2d
[01:02] <holstein> donvito: are you looking for me to make a more specific suggestion besides "try them live or install them and see for yourself"?
[01:02] <holstein> donvito: try xubuntu.. xfce
[01:02] <donvito> ok
[01:02] <holstein> !xubuntu
[01:03] <tears> holstein I want to connect to it on port 80. It's a website I don't want to SSH.
[01:03] <Guest74190> just re-installed 13.04 and my Brother MFC-465cn with CUPS and LTR drivers, as directed on the brother website, and I still cannot print. little help?
[01:03] <holstein> tears: you can run ssh on whatever port you want
[01:03] <tears> holstein nothing bad I'm just looking to learn
[01:04] <tears> holstein it won't disconnect me?
[01:04] <holstein> tears: im on ssh right now
[01:05] <tears> holstein Okay but won't I need a password ?
[01:06] <tears> plus a user like ssh xxx@ipaddress port 80
[01:06] <holstein> tears: correct.. this assumes this is a machine you have access to.. you connect via however you are either allowed to, or you have given yourself access to connect, and stay on
[01:07] <tears> I don't have any username or password.  It's not a machine I have access to it's just a web server
[01:08] <holstein> tears: you'll need to elaborate about the access you have, or ask the admin how you are supposed to connect, or setup your own situation somewhere, in virtualbox for example
[01:10] <drako_> hello, how can I recover data from a harddrive that is not recognizable? I need to scan the drive to try to recover all my files. Any idea?
[01:11] <holstein> !testdisk
[01:11] <holstein> !info testdisk
[01:11] <holstein> drako_: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk is what i use, from a live CD
[01:12] <drako_> there is a software called easeus but it only works for windows. holstein do you know if testdisk is comparable to easeus?
[01:12] <tears> holstein Okay I read that I could occupy all port 80s by sending incomplete get requests. This would consequently cause the server to stop recieving HTTP requests. So I want to experiment with just one port see how it works out and ask a friend for a chance to do it but on all ports. Say using a script. Basically I'll try it with a single port 80 on the net and then ask for a person who can let me actually do it.
[01:12] <holstein> drako_: i know that i use testdisk when i want to do what you are asking about doing
[01:12] <holstein> drako_: photorec is a tool that is a part of testdisk.. works great
[01:13] <holstein> tears: you need to set that up locally... you shouldnt be doing that over the network
[01:14] <holstein> tears: sounds to me like you are asking about doing a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack, which would be "bad"
[01:15] <tears> holstein Like over a VM? So is what I'm trying to do possible? I can try it with localhost I guess. I didn't consider it as a DOS but you could think of it as one. I even doubt it'll work.
[01:16] <tears> holstein Because I keep getting the connection closed but after a reasonable amount of time.
[01:16] <holstein> tears: you could get "kicked out" for trying something suspicious
[01:16] <tears> holstein I wouldn't do anything illegal though.
[01:16] <holstein> tears: i think you are, thats why i mention it..
[01:17] <holstein> tears: and, thats why i suggest setting it up locally.. in virtualbox, or just machine that you own locally
[01:17] <tears> holstein I'm just a curious person plus I'm doing it on a single port. I'll try it on localhost.
[01:18] <holstein> tears: if you are curious, check out the wiki link i gave, and the legal part near the middle
[01:20] <Tekra> Can i make the fingerprint reader in my laptop (which i use for login already with fprintd as a like a scroller on mouse? ;)
[01:21] <tears> holstein I'm guessing you won't even tell me whether this will work or not. See the idea isn't flooding a stream of data it's using least data to hold a port(s) the longest.  I think you know the answer to whether it'll work or not.
[01:23] <holstein> tears: the link should explain that it works.. the reason i proposing you are getting disconnected is because you are triggering something in a security protocol, or you are not supposed to be there anyway, and being dissconnected.. you can control these variables by running a local server
[01:23] <holstein> tears: try a security channel
[01:24] <tears> holstein thanks
[01:32] <robin_> having some printer problems. Fresh install of 13.04, and my brother MFC-465cn won't work
[01:32] <penos> robin_: search web for linux driver
[01:33] <robin_> Penos: Brother already had the linux drivers, and install instructions. appears in my "printers" menu, but the jobs all list as "processing" and never go anywhere
[01:34] <penos> robin_: are you printing to the printer or some other?
[01:35] <robin_> penos: am printing to the proper one... i'm just not sure if it installed correctly. used these instructions http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_prn1c.html
[01:35] <Guest57572> trying to use the Personal File Sharing option .. have installed Samba and CIFTS but the program box still says not all packages installed??? What else do i need?
[01:39] <energizer> There is a command that works in my terminal and I want to change what it does, but I can't remember where it is. I don't know if its an alias or a command somewhere in my path. how can I find out where it is?
[01:40] <cong> which (command)
[01:44] <root__> where is dillorc? I installed dillo, i found the .dillo folder, but no dillorc? I found one in etc/dillo, but my changes there have no effect...??
[01:46] <kingbeast> root__, if you change the file in etc/dillo you have to either use sudo gedit, or sudo nano
[01:48] <root__> kingbeast: i did that, i had root priveleges while making the changes. i used gksu thunar, moved over to the file, and used leafpad to change it.
[01:48] <energizer> cong there was no result
[01:51] <kuroi_> hello
[01:52] <kuroi_> i need some help
[01:52] <holstein> !ask
[01:52] <cong> energizer, what's the command?
[01:53] <energizer> wake-mydesktop
[01:53] <energizer> which i obviouslly defined myself, but i just dont know where
[01:55] <vorlket> i am having trouble making tcp/ip connection; ping works fine. a router guy suggested a possible host firewall issue. i am using ubuntu 12.04 for both client and servers. any pointer to troubleshoot is appreciated.
[01:55] <kuroi_> i just installed 13.04, but nvidia driver isn't working, so my screen resolution is 1024x768 in a 19'' LED monitor
[01:55] <cong> energizer, try: alias | which -i (command)
[01:56] <energizer> Illegal option -i
[01:56] <energizer> Usage: /usr/bin/which [-a] args
[01:57] <Dougie187> Can anyone point me to a guide that tells me how to make a .deb out of a library?
[01:59] <cong> energizer, try the full switch name: alias | which --read-alias command
[02:00] <energizer> same thing happened cong
[02:02] <cong> energizer, what about: alias | grep wake-mydesktop
[02:04] <kuroi_> i just installed 13.04, but nvidia driver isn't working
[02:04] <energizer> cong it found it!
[02:05] <holstein> kuroi_: did you just install the nvidia driver into a previously installed 13.04 installation?
[02:05] <Pinchie> Yay, now that I'm in the support channel and not being stupid and requesting support in the social channel... anyone got a sec to help me with a booting prob?
[02:05] <penos> !ask | Pinchie
[02:05] <Pinchie> Good point.
[02:06] <Pinchie> Had to do a release-upgrade from an unsupported Ubuntu (10) to the latest, but now it isn't booting. The grub config appears correct, and I've tried boot-repair as well to make sure I wasn't making any mistakes... but it still seems to be hitting grub and immediately rebooting. Got the boot-repair pastebin here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5860285/
[02:06] <Pinchie> The only truly strange thing I've noticed is that when booting to rescue mode on my 11.04 server CD it happily automounts /dev/md0 and /dev/sda1 but when I try to run an ls in sda1 it comes up empty.. I have to unmount and remount it to get to the file contents and when fsck'ing I get a resize inode error
[02:06] <holstein> Pinchie: i would consider a fresh install.. it can take so much less time
[02:07] <Pinchie> I'm considering it, but doing my best to avoid it
[02:07] <holstein> Pinchie: why? it literally can take 12 minutes or so
[02:07] <Pinchie> I'd have to get all the data from this software RAID array before reinstalling to cover my bum
[02:07] <Pinchie> It's slightly-important data :P
[02:07] <holstein> Pinchie: you'll need to get it backed up somewhere, and should before doing an upgrade
[02:08] <Pinchie> Well I can blame the person who performed the upgrade in my absence for that... but unfortunately I've got no way of backing up this data to a single place :(
[02:08] <kuroi_> holstein: no, i installed 13.04 from 11.04 and  the nvidia driver isn't working under 13.04
[02:09] <Pinchie> The problem seems to be related to the sda1 partition, I think. I don't even see a GRUB prompt before a reboot.. just "loading operating system" and then back to POST
[02:09] <Pinchie> The fact it doesn't mount properly on the rescue CD concerns me, too
[02:09] <sporkeee> Pinchie, 11.10 is end of life not supported do a fresh install as suggested.
[02:09] <Pinchie> I'm upgraded to 13 now
[02:09] <Pinchie> It's just not booting :P
[02:10] <sporkeee> Pinchie, The boot info says 11.10
[02:10] <Pinchie> Aww no
[02:10]  * Pinchie checks the pastebin
[02:11] <Pinchie> Awwwwwwwwwwwwww no
[02:11] <Pinchie> So the upgrade has trashed the system, basically
[02:12] <holstein> ?
[02:12]  * Pinchie headdesk
[02:12] <|1li> https://www.leapmotion.com/
[02:12] <Pinchie> Well he said he took it to 13 through the upgrade process, and it just hasn't booted
[02:12] <Pinchie> So I came in today expecting a simple GRUB problem
[02:12] <Pinchie> But if boot-repair still sees the system as Ubuntu 11 then the upgrade has gone tres tres badly
[02:12] <sporkeee> most likely, as a guess
[02:13] <holstein> i would rather do anything else than deal with an EOL upgrade
[02:13] <paulgigas> Hi!
[02:13] <Pinchie> Yeah, being EOL I'm assuiming he couldn't properly do an apt-get upgrade and a dist-upgrade before a release-upgrade
[02:15] <Pinchie> Thanks for your help, guys. Since I'm looking at a reinstall I may as well do it properly, too. Set it up for GRUB on each drive of the array etc
[02:15] <Pinchie> God help me, this is not how I wanted my day to go :P
[02:20] <donvito> performing clean install with 13.04 i didnt like the upgrade proces from 12.04 to 13.04
[02:21] <penos> you have to 12.04->12.10->13.04
[02:21] <donvito> thats stupid, downloading 1gb of data, than again 1gb of data pff
[02:22] <holstein> donvito: its the way it is.. there is an upgrade from LTS to LTS, which will be 12.04 to 14.04
[02:22] <donvito> when its the release date of 14.04 ?
[02:23] <holstein> donvito: ? 14 is 2014.. 04 is april.. the 4th month.. so, april 2014, if all goes as planned
[02:23] <donvito> okay :)
[02:32] <mevon> hello
[02:32] <penos> !ask mevon
[02:32] <penos> !ask | mevon
[02:33] <mevon> anyone has skills with u-boot and SunXi ? I need to create a SD card with a ubuntu rootfs and uboot with it
[02:35] <holstein> mevon: uboot?
[02:36] <holstein> !ufei | mevon is this what you are after?
[02:36] <holstein> !uefi | mevon ^^
[02:37] <mevon> no more something like that: http://olimex.wordpress.com/2013/06/19/building-linux-for-a10s-from-scratch/
[02:38] <holstein> !arm
[02:38] <holstein> mevon: ^^
[02:38] <holstein> i dont have any arm hardware
[02:38] <mevon> ok thank you ill go to that chan
[02:40] <mevon> holstein: try an mk802 very cheap for hardware, if you get the A10 one (NOT the A10S...) images are already build for those
[02:41] <__machine> in ubuntu 12.04 lts ... anyone know how to change or disable the default welcome page for tomcat6? https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/tomcat.html says a default ROOT webap is installed that displays a minimal "it works" page but doesnt say where it is installed or how to disable it... i found /usr/share/tomcat6-root/default_root/ but no idea where this location is referenced?
[02:43] <Pinchie> Clean 12.04.2 server installation underway. Thanks again for your assistance guys. :)
[02:44] <penos> !kr | penos
[02:47] <fragged> Hi all, after upgrading from Ubuntu 12 to 13.04, my sound has become limited to one process at a time, ie if I'm running MPD, I can't hear sound via mplayer or chrome, I believe it's an issue with PulseAudio etc but don't understand a whole lot about the audio subsystems
[02:48] <holstein> !audio
[02:48] <holstein> fragged: i would install pavucontrol first
[02:48] <holstein> __machine: where do you access the page?
[02:49] <__machine> holstein:  http://mydomain.com:8080/ shows the welcome page... i found /usr/share/tomcat6-root//default_root/index.html but changing that file makes no difference...
[02:50] <holstein> __machine: this looks through, and hopefully current http://blog.watashii.com/2008/10/how-to-change-default-homepage-in-tomcat/
[02:51] <__machine> holstein: i saw that... but unfortunately my /etc/tomcat6/web.xml doesnt have the mentioned servlet or servlet-mapping
[02:53] <__machine> holstein: and also i couldnt find an index.jsp file at all anywhere with the contents of the welcome page that i am seeing... i could only find /usr/share/tomcat6-root//default_root/index.html and this does have the same contents as the welcome page i am seeing
[02:53] <Dougie187> Has anyone build a library into a .deb before?
[02:57] <somsip> !anyone | Dougie187
[02:57] <Dougie187> My question is really can anyone help me package a library file into a .deb.
[02:58] <__machine> holstein: i can completely disable the default servlet and that gets rid of the welcome page... but it also kills static images being served in other apps
[02:58] <sp00ky> when I run apt-get update I'm getting "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY C697D823EB0AB654".  How can I find this public key?
[02:58] <holstein> sp00ky: fix your sources.. check the PPA's you added
[02:59] <sp00ky> holstein, I added a deb repo
[02:59] <holstein> sp00ky: then ask them for ubuntu support for it..
[03:00] <somsip> Dougie187: have you read the (admittedly verbose) guide? http://is.gd/nTeFO2 (but this looks old...maybe it is current)
[03:00] <Dougie187> somsip: I've... attempted... to. It is, as you say, rather verbose. Right now I'm trying to work through this. http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/libraries.html
[03:01] <somsip> Dougie187: and maybe a few helpful questions from here http://is.gd/t7DBG4
[03:01] <somsip> Dougie187: I can't help you directly as I have no idea. So I can only suggest resources.
[03:01] <Dougie187> :D Thanks
[03:02] <Dougie187> I can make them easily using dpkg -b, but I don't know how to upload them to a ppa without a .changes file (which dpkg -b doesn't create).
[03:03] <penos> !jp
[03:06] <penos> !kr
[03:06] <meet> how do I setup a file sharing between two linux computers? in windows I used to right click and use the share with workgroup or similar option. Could not find such in fedora.
[03:07] <pvl1> i keep getting the minimal bash like line editin in grub, and no combination of grub commands fixes it. niether does a dist upgrade. could it be that i installed to mbr, and broke it installing to dev/sda1
[03:07] <pvl1> meet ssh, or do u want something visual
[03:07] <meet> pvl1: i would prefer something visual
[03:08] <pvl1> meet, http://www.howtogeek.com/116309/use-ubuntus-public-folder-to-easily-share-files-between-computers/
[03:15] <pvl1> anyone help with grub
[03:17] <meet> pvl1: that looks good only for ubuntu. I want to share from fedora with ubuntu also. I am trying giver , but it's not working on ubuntu.
[03:17] <pvl1> samba is a protocol
[03:17] <pvl1> so google for samba fedora
[03:17] <pvl1> but ultimately, u need to set up a samba share
[03:18] <pvl1> there are other more complicated ways. me personally i psftp everything
[03:18] <pvl1> meet
[03:18] <sporkeee> pvl1, What is your grub issue?
[03:19] <anonee> hello room, about the system locale. the LANG provides default value for LC_* variables that have not been explicitly set. the question is what is an LC_* variable?
[03:20] <sporkeee> pvl1, I see some how are you editing it, and what is the goal here?
[03:20] <sporkeee> Heh, I think that is edition.
[03:20] <pvl1> sporkeee, i want grub to automatically load ubuntu
[03:21] <pvl1> right now it just gives me the bashlike interface
[03:21] <sporkeee> pvl1, Is ubuntu in its own partition or a wubi?
[03:21] <sporkeee> and do you have other linux install?
[03:22] <pvl1> own partition, no other installs. /sda1 is root, and sda2 is logical, sda5 swap
[03:22] <pvl1> sporkeee,
[03:22] <sporkeee> pvl1, Well grub can be pirged and reloaded from the desktop, that is what I would do.
[03:22] <sporkeee> purged*
[03:24] <sgo11> hi ,is this 16757.066528 a time or date format? if so, how can I convert it to human readable date time? thanks.
[03:24] <mevon> anyone can point me to a channel that can help me with EMBEDDED distro and u-boot?
[03:25] <mevon> !ask embedded linux?
[03:25] <mevon> !ask linux uboot SD
[03:26] <Dougie187> mevon: see if there's a cubox channel
[03:26] <pvl1> sporkeee, tried that
[03:28] <sporkeee> pvl1, Are you sure you did it correctly, this is grub 2 right?
[03:28] <trism> sgo11: if you mean the timestamps in dmesg, you can use: dmesg -T
[03:28] <pvl1> sporkeee, i am not sure, dist-upgrade just did it for me. and it is grub2 yes
[03:28] <pvl1> well 1.99
[03:29] <sporkeee> pvl1, dist-upgrade is a cli command to get held packages in the OS.
[03:29] <sgo11> trism, is that possible to convert the timestamps through command line tools? I see these in android kernel log. thanks.
[03:29] <pvl1> sporkeee, it upgraded the kernel, so it had to update grub
[03:29] <anonee> in other words, I wanna make sure that setting LANG to ar won't change the English interface language, otherwise, how does the system decide to choose the right decoding when dealing with an application?
[03:30] <sporkeee> pvl1, Sure, that is a not a purge of grub however, which removes everything, and a re-install of it
[03:30] <trism> sgo11: the problem is the timestamps are seconds since boot
[03:30] <sporkeee> if you re-install it
[03:30] <pvl1> sporkeee, i did it via remove/install
[03:30] <trism> sgo11: if you know the timestamp it booted you could add the seconds and then convert that
[03:30] <pvl1> sporkeee, what package should i be installing
[03:30] <sporkeee> pvl1, That leaves config, you have to purge it.
[03:30] <pvl1> ah ok makes sense
[03:30] <sgo11> trism, never know that. thanks a lot. will try to find out.
[03:32] <sporkeee> pvl1, sudo apt-get purge grub-common grub-pc ; sudo apt -get install grub-common grub-pc  when asked where grub goes choose the mbr not a partition and use shift to tick it. I'm assuming here you have standard partitioning.
[03:33] <pvl1> i do, ill give that a shot. thanks. need to boot it by hand tho hold on
[03:33] <sporkeee> cool
[03:33] <anonee> anyone?
[03:34] <pvl1> anonee, i think LC is locale?
[03:35] <sporkeee> anonee, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[03:36] <KriShaNsin> I installed qbittorrent application in this case. and i changed the options around alot under the tools tab. then i tried to sudo apt-get purge , and when i reinstalled it , the options were still edited. i want to purge the app and all the config settings and then reinstall, or reset all options to default which i noticed has no option. help?
[03:36] <KriShaNsin> *my goal is to get qbittorrent in its original settings.
[03:37] <anonee> pvl1 yes right, sporkeee I'm reading it, but the thing is I wanna know what am I gonna change by setting LANG, am I gonna change my GUI language? because that's NOT what I want!
[03:37] <pvl1> KriShaNsin, look in ~/.qBittorrent/
[03:37] <KriShaNsin> pv1
[03:38] <pvl1> anonee, lets start with your goal, what do you want to accomplish
[03:38] <KriShaNsin> pv1 what is it again? "gksudo gedit ~/.qBittorrent/" ?
[03:38] <pvl1> sporkeee, selecting /dev/sda is infact mbr right, sda1 would be partition
[03:39] <pvl1> KriShaNsin, i really dont know, it should be in that folder. tab it from a terminal to see whats there
[03:39] <KriShaNsin> pv1 what does "tab it from terminal mean"?
[03:40] <pvl1> KriShaNsin, put that in a terminal and hit tab after the / to see whats in the folder
[03:40] <pvl1> or, cd to that dir and ls
[03:40] <KriShaNsin> ok
[03:40] <pvl1> or just open it in nautlius
[03:40] <pvl1> or any filemanager
[03:40] <main> hello! I'm trying to add a resolution that wasn't detected for my display, I've followed the internet tutorials and can't seem to get it to work, could anyone help me? :)
[03:40] <sporkeee> pvl1, Yes sda is the mbr
[03:41] <anonee> pvl1 I want winehq -and other applications- to recognize and correctly decode arabic characters, btw the necessary fonts are already installed, and Open Office works fine, I have English GUI and I don't wanna change it.
[03:41] <pvl1> sporkeee, thank you
[03:42] <sporkeee> pvl1, No problem, grub should be normal now and default to ubuntu.
[03:42] <pvl1> anonee, gui would alo include other apps wouldnt it
[03:42] <pvl1> sporkeee, bout to find out
[03:42] <sporkeee> ;)
[03:43] <KriShaNsin> well i just deleted the qbittorrent.conf file. i hope that was it .
[03:43] <dym> Hi Ubuntu! Im running 12.04.2 LTS on a machine and all attempts to add static routes to it fail - up route post-up on interfaces, a script based rc attempt, etc. what am i doing wrong? whats overwriting my routes? (especially defalt)
[03:44] <cb2> hello
[03:44] <donvito> unity2d is avaiable on 13.04 ?
[03:45] <main> oh I forgot, I have 12.04.2 also
[03:45] <holstein> donvito: no.. but try xfce for a gnome2 like feel
[03:45] <donvito> gnome classic?
[03:46] <anonee> pvl1 it includes, but it shouldn't set everything globally to all apps, because the user may have applications in another language, I want the interface to remain English, but I want winehq to read arabic, for instance, if I have an arabic exe I'm getting many errors and question marks. I'm using Gnome Classic on 12.04 btw...
[03:46] <holstein> !nounity
[03:46] <KriShaNsin> pv1 what i did was this, i went to my computer under devices in nautilus and searched my file system for anything labled qbittorrent, then i found the .conf file. i deleted that and immediately when i started qbitttorrent again it was default settings . thank you i guess. !
[03:46] <theblindowl> No proprietary drivers are in use on this system. why ?
[03:46] <pvl1> anonee, i think thats more of a wine question than ubuntu. ubuntu is only responsible for its gui and apps
[03:46] <pvl1> anonee, gimme a few
[03:47] <pvl1> KriShaNsin, whatever works bud, no problem
[03:47] <skoggiesue> Hello all! I've hit a BIG problem: after trying to install a new repos for UnbuntuGIS (and disabling old repos for current qgis software) my Synaptic Package Manager crashed, terminal will not respond to "sudo apt-get ANYTHING" or "sudo dpkg --configure -a"! So, as of now...no updates. Pls help! Chrs. [using linux mint15]
[03:47] <t4nk32423> I wish to set an alias in my bashrc such that it changes all commands entered to something of my choosing.
[03:48] <t4nk32423> is there a wildcard symbol?
[03:48] <t4nk32423> e.g. alias * = ...
[03:49] <theblindowl> No proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[03:49] <theblindowl> why
[03:49] <pvl1> anonee, i recommend trying #winehq
[03:50] <main> need some help using xrandr to add a new resolution for my display in 12.04.2
[03:50] <pvl1> sporkeee, i <3 u
[03:50] <anonee> pvl1 I've asked there too... :(
[03:50] <pvl1> finally got my server back up
[03:50] <KriShaNsin> skoggiesue: they are going to tell you that linux mint isnt supported here i think. but i hope you can get it figured out. maybe somone will have pity for you. my fix. reintall your OS from live usb and start over! i have 3 raring ringtail main live usb's on standbby at all times.
[03:50] <sporkeee> cool
[03:50] <pvl1> anonee, have you tried the forums then?
[03:50] <anonee> pvl1anyway... glad you fixed you're grub
[03:50] <pvl1> anonee, unfourtently, i dont have any experience with that. ive only gone as far as setting the ubuntu lang
[03:51] <skoggiesue> KriShaNsin: yeah, i was hoping not to come to that. my external has died last week and i have no way to back up my work!
[03:51] <KriShaNsin> skoggiesue: damn. gotta do that man if its "work" gotta back up after every session man you know that
[03:51] <Tex_Nick> theblindowl: what proprietary drivers would you like to see in use ?
[03:51] <skoggiesue> KriShaNsin: since mint is based on ubuntu and all of the repos are sourced from ubuntu, i can't see why this isn't the right forum (i actually already tried the mint forum, and got directed here)
[03:52] <pvl1> anonee, looks like a process http://www.winehq.org/docs/winedev-guide/adding-languages
[03:52] <KriShaNsin> skoggiesue: i hear you loud and clear my Linux brother
[03:52] <skoggiesue> KriShaNsin: thanks, hopefully someone will pick it up nonetheless. keep truckin'.
[03:53] <theblindowl> Tex_Nick:  i always had fglrx ATI proprietary drivers. even in ubuntu 12.04.1
[03:53] <varunendra> theblindowl, where do you see that message? In "Additional Drivers" program?
[03:53] <t4nk32423> how can I get the following behavior: everytime I enter a command in the terminal, the command is ignored and instead "hi" is echoed back out
[03:54] <pvl1> skoggiesue, what do u mean no response
[03:54] <theblindowl> varunendra: It says no prprietary drivers are in use in this system
[03:54] <skoggiesue> pvl1: no output.
[03:54] <k776> Any well known, quick performance tweaks for Ubuntu in general, but in particular, it's being used as a server for a ruby on rails application, running on nginx/passenger?
[03:54] <pvl1> skoggiesue, what verision
[03:54] <skoggiesue> pvl1: mint15 (os version?)
[03:54] <pvl1> t4nk32423, uh, depends. tty or terminal emulator
[03:54] <varunendra> theblindowl, if the native driver (radeon?) is working fine, don't bother with proprietary one.
[03:55] <pvl1> skoggiesue, can u see if you have aptitude installed
[03:55] <theblindowl> varunendra:  it does not. slow in games and makes my system hot like hell
[03:55] <skoggiesue> pvl1: doesn't look like it.
[03:55] <A1Recon> Can I get something on my desktop screen which has a list of programs installed?
[03:55] <pvl1> skoggiesue, sudo killall -9 apt-get
[03:55] <pvl1> or something like that
[03:56] <pvl1> lets see if theres anything open
[03:56] <Tex_Nick> theblindowl: ahh ok ... in the "software updater" choose "Settings/Additional Drivers"
[03:56] <pvl1> or try sudo fuser -cuk /var/lib/dpkg/lock; sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:57] <qin> A1Recon: dmenu?
[03:57] <wheatthin> or just reboot, and don't force nothing
[03:58] <varunendra> theblindowl, you can check your software sources (USC > Edit > Software sources) and make sure "restricted" repositories are enabled. Then do an update - "sudo apt-get update" and you should be able to get the proprietary one proposed.
[03:58] <theblindowl> varunendra:  its already enabled
[03:59] <varunendra> theblindowl, did an update?
[03:59] <theblindowl> varunendra:  i already did a full system update
[03:59] <pvl1> wheatthin, reboot with possible broken packages? then theyll have to chroot from a live cd
[04:00] <main> trying to add resolutions to my display that weren't detected. Running 12.04.2 LTS. I've tried using cvt and changing the conf file. I'm not sure if I'm asking my question correctly, is there anyone that could help?
[04:00] <wheatthin> pvl1, not really.. if they are already broken, If it's desktop related, then they'll just have to cntrl+alt+f1 to get to a console screen
[04:00] <A1Recon> qin: https://lh3.ggpht.com/_mHpGUNwLSfs/TUeLZl7x7oI/AAAAAAAAB9g/gZ4pfXiYlcI/s1600/SL-DESKTOP%253DMENU.png See that thing at the top left? I want that!! or else i forget using some good applications that ive installed....
[04:00] <varunendra> theblindowl, if still you don't see it in the additional driver, then probably your card is no more supported by AMD.
[04:00] <theblindowl> varunendra:  its the very same reason that i left opensuse for good. now its happening in ubuntu lts
[04:00] <A4trent3> Earlier while I was installing Ubuntu to my desktop. The install failed and I deleted Windows 7 before I started to download Ubuntu. I don't have a recovery disc for my desktop and I didn't make a system image and just backed up my user folder in Windows 7. I dont know what to do now. I know I should have made a system image
[04:01] <varunendra> theblindowl, which card do you have ? (lspci -nn | grep -i vga)
[04:01] <theblindowl> varunendra:  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV710 [Mobility Radeon HD 4500/5100 Series]
[04:01] <pvl1> wheatthin, your lucky if thats as simple your experience has been. mines has been a lot more difficult, im not very familiar with initramfs
[04:02] <skoggiesue> pvl1: i tried to run one of the commands (the first of the second string) and it turned everything black and i had to re-boot
[04:02] <pvl1> A1Recon, thats just the old interface
[04:02] <qin> A1Recon: gnome-shell and application menu, or this fake gnome2 thinky.
[04:02] <pvl1> skoggiesue, so what now
[04:02] <A4trent3> I'm fairly worried now.
[04:02] <varunendra> theblindowl, I can't say with confidence right now (will have to look up) but this card seems to have been dropped by AMD. Hence no proprietary driver anymore.
[04:02] <Tex_Nick> A1Recon: "ubuntu software center" choose the Installed icon ?
[04:02] <wheatthin> pv11 initramfs should automatically be generated by updating grub
[04:02] <main> a4t: are you saying there is no OS left on your machine, and you don't have any installation media?
[04:02] <skoggiesue> pvl1: same issue, no output in terminal. if you would please paste the commands again I can try to do them again? perhaps slightly differently this time.
[04:03] <pvl1> wheatthin, i thought it was like a subsystem?
[04:03] <A1Recon> Tex_Nick: I do that. But this would be faster...an applications menu, i mean.
[04:03] <A4trent3> No OS left and no install media
[04:03] <wheatthin> initramfs, is what is generated after doing a kernel update, which in turn updates grub
[04:04] <pvl1> skoggiesue, does apt-get -v say anything
[04:04] <A4trent3> Im angry with myself for doing that.
[04:04] <pvl1> wheatthin ima have to read more into it after some actual sleep
[04:05] <wheatthin> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/update-initramfs.8.html
[04:05] <A1Recon> pvl1: I kinda like Unity. Is there  a way to get the applications menu with Unity Installed...
[04:05] <pvl1> A1Recon, idk never tried
[04:05] <skoggiesue> pvl1: apt-get -v output: http://pastebin.com/rNjqjfEP
[04:05] <wheatthin> same principle on precise and whatever
[04:05] <main> A4t: I'd suggest downloading and burning a linux distro iso to a disc and using it for a fresh install. That's free, but you have to pay for windows. Unless anyone else has a suggestion i'm not sure what else you could do :(
[04:06] <Tex_Nick> A1Recon: alacarte provides a method of listing, enabling, disabling GUI apps ... i might not understand exactly what you're after though
[04:06] <main> a4t: maybe  borrow use on a friend's computer
[04:06] <pvl1> skoggiesue, what command is not giving any output
[04:07] <A1Recon> Tex_Nick: I am looking to get an Applications menu. Something like "All Programs" in Windows...
[04:07] <skoggiesue> pvl1: apt get-update, apt get-install <prog>, apt get-<anything>
[04:07] <somsip> skoggiesue: apt-get update ....
[04:08] <skoggiesue> pvl1: plus, software manager will not open & synaptic package manager crashes.
[04:08] <pvl1> somsip, thank yyou
[04:08] <Tex_Nick> A1Recon: in terminal try alacarte ???
[04:08] <pvl1> skoggiesue, well get there
[04:08] <A4trent3> Ill see what I can do about getting another Ubuntu .iso and burning it
[04:08] <pvl1> A4trent3, i usually do liveusb
[04:08] <pvl1> (of a microsd actually)
[04:09] <A1Recon> Tex_Nick: I am looking into alacarte
[04:09] <skoggiesue> somsip: sudo apt-get update gives no output. apt-get update gives "Segmentation fault"
[04:09] <somsip> skoggiesue: maybe something Mint has installed has broken something. This is why we can't support Mint here.
[04:09] <main> a4t: a good program out there is linux boot repair, for 32 and 64 bit systems, if you're interested in installing windows and linux on the same machine
[04:10] <A4trent3> I could use my phones microsd. I don't knoe
[04:10] <skoggiesue> somsip: it happened after I set up the repo for UbuntiGIS.
[04:10] <Tex_Nick> A1Recon: I don't remember if it's installed by default ... think it is though
[04:10] <somsip> skoggiesue: it's still Mint. I can't help you.
[04:10] <A4trent3> i hit the enter button on my phone. whoops
[04:10] <skoggiesue> somsip: thanks.
[04:11] <pvl1> woo GDB to the rescue
[04:11] <A4trent3> Ill look into those solutions.
[04:11] <A4trent3> cya
[04:11] <main> good luck!
[04:11] <skoggiesue> pvl1: so apt-get update give response "segmentation fail". Do you agree with somsip that is a mint issue and i shouldn't be in the forum or are you happy to continue to share your knoweldge?
[04:12] <pvl1> skoggiesue, throw a sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a and go get a coffee and smoke a cig. itll prolly take a bit
[04:12] <pvl1> skoggiesue, wait
[04:12] <pvl1> acutally
[04:13] <main> looking to add resolutions that weren't detected, running 12.04.2 LTS. have tried making a new conf file and using cvt...anyone able to help?
[04:13] <pvl1> skoggiesue, do a sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a > recon.log
[04:13] <pvl1> and pastebin the file
[04:13] <skoggiesue> pvl1: no need to wait, it came up with an error inresponse: dpkg: error: unknown option -- reconfigure....
[04:13] <somsip> skoggiesue: from here "If you are trying to install it in Mint 15 it will not work. Mint 15 is based on Ubuntu Raring, and there is no raring otb package in that PPA." This is why we don't support Mint. http://is.gd/PoCqhg
[04:14] <pvl1> skoggiesue, no space between -- and reconfigure... --reconfigure
[04:14] <somsip> skoggiesue: you really do need help from mint support. I'm off thread now
[04:15] <pvl1> yeah i should be going to sleep too
[04:15] <skoggiesue> somsip: thanks, that link helped. i tried in the mint forum and no response. maybe i'll just switch to ubuntu ui and hang out with ya'll all the time.
[04:16] <somsip> skoggiesue: I think ubuntu has a larger install base then mint so there tends to be more suppot here. I agree that Mint has some nice features, but it is different and we don't always know how different. Hence not being able to help
[04:16] <skoggiesue> pvl1: still an error.
[04:16] <skoggiesue> pvl1: same one. =/
[04:17] <varunendra> theblindowl, I couldn't find a Linux driver that specifically mentions Radeon HD 4500 or 5100 series as supported in its "Release Notes". Here's the homepage : http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[04:17] <skoggiesue> somsip: yeah, that's totally understandable. honestly, i've had heaps of issues with mint and it's not worth the fancy bits and bops for those frustrations. just need to find a way to backup first and when i get around to a re-install, i thin it will be an ubuntu version.
[04:22] <theblindowl> varunendra:  how about installing the fglrx driver which is already in ubuntu software center /
[04:22] <lwsmith> Could I get some assistance with something real quick if it is possible?
[04:22] <somsip> !ask | lwsmith
[04:22] <main> !patience
[04:23] <varunendra> theblindowl, as far as I know, it is the same driver that AMD provides, only packaged to suit debian based distros. So if AMD has abandoned it, there won't be one available. I'm not super sure about though
[04:23] <lwsmith> Okay then, I am using unity tweak tool and I customized it to my liking.  I was wanting to know if there is a way to make that customization default across the board for all users.
[04:24] <lwsmith> Without individually customizing it for each individual user.
[04:24] <theblindowl> varunendra:  is it possible for such driver or software to be available in 12.04.1 and be absent in 12.04.2?
[04:24] <theblindowl> varunendra:  and what about this ; https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer
[04:26] <varunendra> theblindowl, yes it's quite possible that an older version exists. The last I heard, those recently dropped drivers are still available for 12.04, I'm not sure if they are for upto some specific kernel version.
[04:26] <theblindowl> varunendra:  what should i do? maybe i need to jump back to ubuntu 10.04 or something
[04:26] <somsip> lwsmith: looking at it, it is possible it makes changes to a number of different files, so you would need to merge those changes with the config files for all users which is probably not practical. Is there an 'export settings' option?
[04:27] <varunendra> theblindowl, that much shouldn't be needed :P
[04:27] <main> theblindowl: I wouldn't, 10.04 is no longer supported.
[04:27] <lwsmith> No, there isn't
[04:28] <somsip> lwsmith: I suggest there isn't an option then. You may get a better answer by contacting the package maintainers
[04:28] <theblindowl> ATI sucks
[04:28] <varunendra> theblindowl, as per the launchpad page you linked to, it should be available. Maybe someone else can confirm !
[04:28] <lwsmith> Okay then.  Because I have a large family and it's a pain to configure unity for each individual user.  I'll see what I can do.  Thank you
[04:29] <theblindowl> varunendra:  how can i install from that page?
[04:31] <Tex_Nick> lwsmith: see if this helps ?
[04:31] <Tex_Nick> http://askubuntu.com/questions/100252/cant-clone-a-user-profile
[04:31] <Tex_Nick> lwsmith:  ^
[04:32] <lwsmith> I will try that.
[04:34] <lwsmith> brb
[04:35] <varunendra> theblindowl, what does this show - "apt-cache show fglrx | grep -i version" ?
[04:36] <theblindowl> varunendra:  Version: 2:8.960-0ubuntu1.1
[04:36] <theblindowl> Version: 2:8.960-0ubuntu1
[04:38] <varunendra> theblindowl, well it means it is available then. Not showing up in Additional Drivers may mean that your card isn't in its support list.
[04:38] <theblindowl> varunendra:  what should i do/
[04:39] <theblindowl> varunendra:  the old driver was very good.i dont know why they removed it
[04:39] <varunendra> theblindowl, the command I gave you (lspci -nn | grep -i vga) - didn't it return a four-digit pair in a bracked like - "[8086:0116]" ?? This might verify whether your card is supported or not by this package.
[04:40] <theblindowl> theblindowl@theblindowl-ThinkPad-SL510:~$ lspci -nn | grep -i vga
[04:40] <theblindowl> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV710 [Mobility Radeon HD 4500/5100 Series] [1002:9553]
[04:40] <theblindowl> varunendra:  this?
[04:41] <theblindowl> varunendra:  maybe the problem is the jockey. i remember it had many problems in past too
[04:42] <varunendra> theblindowl, it seems the package supports your card (apt-cache show fglrx | grep -i 9553 shows that id in its support list)
[04:43] <theblindowl> varunendra:  so i should install it?
[04:43] <main> can anyone help me add resolutions to my display in 12.04.2 LTS?
[04:43] <varunendra> theblindowl, you may try manually installing it. But my personal experience with fglrx is next to zero. You better follow the wiki page for it.
[04:44] <theblindowl> thanks
[04:44] <varunendra> np :)
[04:45] <lwsmith> Nope, that didn't work
[04:49] <Tex_Nick> lwsmith: hmmm sorry sir ... googling "ubuntu clone user prifile" lists several options for what you're trying to do ... i can't really provide specific ansewers :(
[04:49] <lwsmith> Okay then
[04:52] <root__> hello all
[04:52] <tomivs> How to overclock my CPU?
[04:52] <root__> hello
[04:52] <root__> theres alot of video tuts on youtube on how to do that
[04:53] <Tex_Nick> tomivs: you might ask in ##hardware
[04:53] <root__> be carefull it can potentially burn your cpu
[04:53] <root__> is there any hacking tips in here?
[04:53] <root__> for my own system of course
[04:54] <root__> is there anone here
[04:54] <root__> anyone
[04:54] <root__> ?
[04:54] <root__> ?
[04:54] <Tex_Nick> tomivs: what root__  pointed out is a VALID point ... read up on it !!!
[04:54] <FloodBot1> root__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:55] <root__> hello
[04:55] <root__> is this a ghost town?
[04:56] <Tex_Nick> root__:  this is the wrong channel for hacking ... you might try the HAK5 server # hak5
[04:57] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Last night I accessed a samba share on my machine from a WDLX media box.  I disconnected the box from the share, but my machine did not do its usual inactivity shutdown. I'm assuming that the samba daemon kept the machine alive.  Is there any way of checking that, and if so, how can I time out the connection so that the machine will power down when I'm not around.
[05:05] <qin> dsnyders: restart service? sudo netstat -tuep (to see established connection, or install iftop)
[05:14] <VinnyAtaide> hello, I have a question about my partition, I moved the extended part with the swap off... to the left and resized to fill all the gap, but gparted shows an error, here it is...
[05:14] <VinnyAtaide> move partition to the left and grow it from 56.28 GiB to 410.18 GiB  00:00:01    ( ERROR )
[05:14] <VinnyAtaide>      	
[05:14] <VinnyAtaide> old start: 1,132,240,894
[05:14] <VinnyAtaide> old end: 1,250,263,039
[05:14] <VinnyAtaide> old size: 118,022,146 (56.28 GiB)
[05:14] <FloodBot1> VinnyAtaide: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:15] <VinnyAtaide> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5860602/
[05:16] <VinnyAtaide> it isn't overlapping at all
[05:17] <VinnyAtaide> hm... I'll wait 20mins, then I'll be gone... thx anyways
[05:20] <dsnyders> qin, I restarted the service, so that should kill it this time around.  However, I don't want to have to remember to do that any time I happen to watch a show off my network share.
[05:22] <qin> dsnyders: maybe there is some option in smb config like "keep alive", dont really know samba, but you could run cron to check for idle connection and reset deamon if needed.
[05:25] <dsnyders> qin, thanks for the suggestions.  cron isn't really a strong suit, nor is samba for that matter.  I'll google for a samba keep-alive option.
[05:25] <h22> guys, I'm looking for a countdown-timer that sends notifications when it's done.. Is there any such app in USC?
[05:27] <ckrodle22> hello
[05:27] <cfhowlett> ckrodle22, greetings
[05:27] <qin> h22: sleep 360; notify-send "Done"
[05:28] <h22> qin: Wow! Nice one!
[05:29] <qin> h22: ;)
[05:29] <qin> h22: you can play sounds too!
[05:30] <h22> Ye, I know to play with notify-send.. :p.. just didn't know about the sleep command.
[05:31] <duanedesign> hello. A user came to #ubuntu-beginners and was trying to rejoin his channels and is getting msg he is baned from this channel. Who should he contact about this?
[05:32] <h22> qin: You sir are awesome, and made my day today. ;) byebyez
[05:32] <qin> h22: thanks.
[05:33] <VinnyAtaide> another question... you guys had any freezes when using ubuntu? only my mouse pointer keeps alive, don't know what's happening ;/....
[05:33] <sporkeee> duanedesign, #ubuntu-ops or #freenode
[05:34] <VinnyAtaide> like this question w/o answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/290924/my-ubuntu-13-04-keeps-freezing
[05:36] <duanedesign> thaanks sporkeee
[05:36] <qin> VinnyAtaide: maybe in /var/log is clue, or spec of machine are simply to low. Does Alt-Ctrl-F1 work?
[05:36] <VinnyAtaide> yeah it works
[05:37] <VinnyAtaide> I see many people with same problem
[05:37] <VinnyAtaide> like this guy
[05:37] <VinnyAtaide> http://askubuntu.com/questions/4408/what-should-i-do-when-ubuntu-freezes
[05:37] <VinnyAtaide> but the answer does not cover the mouse working and apps freezing
[05:38] <VinnyAtaide> i'll check my var when it comes...
[05:38] <VinnyAtaide> i'm formatting my partition right now to see if it resolves... i'll come back later to update
[05:38] <penos> ok
[05:38] <VinnyAtaide> my notebook is very good spec-wise
[05:38] <VinnyAtaide> i7 4gb ram intel hd 3000
[05:39] <qin> VinnyAtaide: Than it is rather X-server problem or gnome, try other window/desktop manager? or try different graphic driver if possible (if instalable via software center)
[05:39] <VinnyAtaide> yeah, kde works fine
[05:40] <VinnyAtaide> hmm, i'll check graphics driver but i doubt there's a new version, intel hd is hardly covered by intel...
[05:41] <VinnyAtaide> thanks for the insight
[05:43] <VinnyAtaide> I think when ubuntu 13.10 comes with mir it's gonna fix all these driver problems =). Can't wait
[05:44] <VinnyAtaide> well, instalation is done, thanks qin you rock. bye all guys
[05:44] <penos> ubuntu > windows
[05:47] <qin> !bug 1 | penos
[05:47]  * w30 needs 13.10 to fix his broken mount.cifs
[05:48] <penos> hi
[05:48] <cfhowlett> penos, greetings
[05:49] <mynameisdeleted> so.. I run ubuntu 13... I have some packages that have versions only for ubuntu 12 and break badly on ubuntu 13
[05:49] <w30> it was ok till current ubuntu base and it's ok in 13.10 so go figure
[05:49] <mynameisdeleted> and some packages only designed for debian or redhat enterprise linux
[05:49] <mynameisdeleted> lxc is a good solution for that?
[05:51] <mynameisdeleted> zimbra specifically has lots of dependancies on specific version of libraries and breaks easy.... as does most autodesk software which depends on redhat enterprise linux
[05:51] <w30> I copyed mount.cifs from 13.10 but it uses a newer dependency library
[05:51] <w30> and don't work
[05:52] <cfhowlett> mynameisdeleted, perhaps virtualbox for the foreign OS's?
[05:52] <mynameisdeleted> virtualbox has tons of overhead and I think lxc is better for linux-on-linux
[05:52] <mynameisdeleted> I'd go virtualbox for running windows or osx
[05:52] <mynameisdeleted> or freebsd
[05:53] <mynameisdeleted> also with zimbra or web-server stuff I dotn want the server to crash when I exit X.. so lxc or qemu within a managed screen session might be better
[05:55] <cfhowlett> mynameisdeleted, most of the apps you're discussing are over my head.  If no response here, perhaps ask #ubuntu-server
[05:55] <AndroUser> Yo
[05:55] <cfhowlett> AndroUser, yohoho
[05:56] <mynameisdeleted> I'd really like a port of qt-x11 thats thats binary compatible with qt-windows-native
[05:56] <mynameisdeleted> I end up running lots of proprietary qt apps within wine
[05:56] <AndroUser> Yo how me change name yo
[05:56] <mynameisdeleted> I'd like them to run with qt-x11 and even if requirign wine run like linux apps
[05:56] <cfhowlett> !nick|AndroUser,
[05:57] <mynameisdeleted> portrait-professional-11, photofx pro, wowslider, etc
[05:57] <AndroUser> H
[05:57] <Semen_Dickman> Yyoyoyo yolo
[05:58] <mynameisdeleted> as qt is open-source based and includes wrappers for most system libraries it should be possible to make a windows/wine version that uses a linux X11 X-server
[05:58] <mynameisdeleted> qt-cygwin is one thign I tried that caused linker errors in wine
[06:01] <zbs7> hey guys
[06:12] <VelesTheGod> I'm trying to run a script every minute, and I try editing the crontab file but my script won't run
[06:12] <VelesTheGod> any suggestions?
[06:12] <VelesTheGod> i tried editing the PATH variable in crontab but still not good, and I tried adding my own path variable in the script
[06:13] <VelesTheGod> nothing works
[06:16] <uccoffee_ubuntu>  irc.rizon.net
[06:18] <XATRIX> Hi, does ubuntu's kernel autodetect which io scheduler to use with SSD disks ?
[06:18] <XATRIX> Currently mine uses deadline
[06:18] <XATRIX> I heard that SSDs work best with noop
[06:19] <den> Evening gentlemen
[06:19] <den> and gentleladies
[06:19] <den> Gentlepeople, really
[06:20] <smoke_> devede or mandvd? any suggestions?
[06:21] <den> smoke_  I'm sorry, I don't understand your question
[06:22] <smoke_> for dvd authoring software
[06:22] <smoke_> wanted to get some opinions
[06:25] <den> smoke_ Ah, sorry, I don't have any experience in that department. I'm usually more concerned with getting DVDs (I bought) to my harddrive (not to share, but for my collection)
[06:26] <den> smoke_ hmm, the manddvd test was performed a few years ago
[06:27] <den> smoke_ I'd be tempted to go with devede as it's been more recently evaluated. YMMV
[06:27] <TuxPenguin> hi guys is Finch IM a good CLI IM software?
[06:27] <TuxPenguin> anyone tried it?
[06:27] <smoke_> den, where do you get this information? from apt-cache?
[06:28] <den> smoke_ found it on the ubuntu website/manpages
[06:28] <aeon-ltd> TuxPenguin: not support related, you may have more luck in offtopic or if there's an official chan for the software go there
[06:28] <den> smoke_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVDAuthoring
[06:28] <TuxPenguin> ok thanks.
[06:28] <den> smoke_ I freely admit that I'm not very helpful in this regard
[06:29] <den> smoke_ IE: Feel free to tell me to shut up :)
[06:29] <smoke_> den, no, you've helped enough just wanted to see if anyone used the software and maybe had opinions
[06:30] <den> smoke_ cool! Hope that helps. Drop back in and give us an update or write a blog post on this or something. Just getting info out is a big help
[06:30] <HankMccoy> hey i'm having problems after installing irssi for chat.....can't find it for one thing...
[06:31] <den> HankMccoy did you try searching for it in the dash?
[06:31] <HankMccoy> top left yes
[06:31] <HankMccoy> it shows up in recent downloads but search=nothing
[06:32] <den> HankMccoy Did you not install it?
[06:32] <HankMccoy> yep
[06:32] <aeon-ltd> HankMccoy: launch in terminal
[06:32] <den> HankMccoy look in home/Downloads
[06:32] <HankMccoy> i just installed it through the Ubuntu software center...
[06:32] <den> HankMccoy Oh! Ok, probably has a different name
[06:33] <aeon-ltd> HankMccoy: if you installed it, it will be in /usr/bin launch it by typing 'irssi' in terminal
[06:34] <HankMccoy> wow think the terminal cmd worked thanks
[06:34] <HankMccoy> that was easy
[06:34] <den> HankMccoy Now pin it to your favorites bar :)
[06:37] <FourDollars> PPA is broken now?
[06:39] <den> FourDollars Is it? What's happening?
[06:39] <jnhghy> does anybody know an estimate for fsck on a 80gb hdd?
[06:39] <FourDollars> den: I can not access http://ppa.launchpad.net/fourdollars/fglrx/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages .
[06:40] <energizer> I want to securely remote-desktop. I gather that means using VNC. However, it just challenges for a password, but I'd prefer to require public key authentication. Is that possible?
[06:40] <den> FourDollars Got there via browser
[06:41] <FourDollars> den: Thanks.
[06:41] <den> FourDollars Sorry if that isn't helpful
[06:41]  * FourDollars is wondering what blocks me to accees it.
[06:42] <den> FourDollars I'm going with gremlins. Possibly banshees. Good lock on the former. Godspeed to the latter
[06:42] <qin> energizer: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/tunneling-vnc-connections-over-ssh-howto.html
[06:42] <FourDollars> s/to access/from accessing/
[06:44] <energizer> How do I require (on the server-side) that all clients connect with ssh?
[06:44] <energizer> qin
[06:46] <qin> energizer: I think they want you to run vnc on localhost, so access is only via ssh
[06:47] <qin> energizer: or firewall vnc port, so you can see how popular you are and how good your firewall is ;)
[06:50] <energizer> i think i see what you mean. thanks
[06:53] <iceroot> energizer: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/dtg/attarchive/vnc/sshvnc.html   (dont do the install part, ust look for the ssh command to create a tunnel)
[06:53] <iceroot> energizer: sudo apt-get install openssh-server   if you dont have the ssh-server installed yet on the server
[06:58] <energizer> i have a basic ssh with key encryption, which works nicely (ssh -Y works as well). I'll play around with this. thanks.
[07:06] <akurilin> I did the hardware enablement stack for ubuntu 12.04 and now apt-get sees headers for 3.2 kernel even though I'm now on 3.5. What do I do?
[07:07] <santy123> hi
[07:08] <santy123> can any one have to help me about installtion of reliance 3g dongle on ubuntu
[07:15] <FernandoBR> hello
[07:15] <FernandoBR> good evening :)
[07:15] <kingbeast> hello FernandoBR
[07:15] <bladeheart> hello
[07:16] <FernandoBR> how are you guys?
[07:16] <FernandoBR> i'm kinda new to linux lol
[07:48] <zulu-gula> how to write shell script that will call "compass watch" in several folders - each should be run in separate terminal
[07:49] <bazhang> zulu-gula, try #bash
[07:49] <zulu-gula> ty
[07:50] <camara> hello
[07:50] <camara> I have a quick question
[07:50] <bazhang> !ask | camara
[07:51] <camara> ok :)
[07:51] <Tex_Nick> camara: quick questions don't always provide quick answers ;-)
[07:51] <camara> if I downloaded the windows installer, dose it install the 32bit version?
[07:51] <bazhang> camara, wubi?
[07:51] <camara> yes
[07:52] <wilee-nilee> camara, What windows release are you running?
[07:52] <histo> camara: wubi is going bye bye so you know. You may just want to dual boot
[07:52] <camara> 7
[07:55] <k1l> camara: most supporters suggest to do a native install. if you just want to test without making partitions use the live-usb-system
[07:57] <histo> !wubi | camara
[07:57] <camara> I don't care about windows anymore, I'm just new to ubuntu and I need this machine for work so I'm keeping the windows as back up for now.
[07:57] <histo> camara: A dualboot setup will not get rid of windows.
[07:57] <histo> camara: you can also create a persistent live USB or install directly to USB to play around if you want.
[07:57] <camara> ok that seems like a good idea
[07:57] <camara> I hope I don't have hard times installing my drivers.
[07:57] <camara> last time I tried, I gave up so easily
[07:58] <camara> k1l: I'm gonna go with the usb system for now.
[07:58] <camara> thanks guys
[08:03] <histo> camara: what sort of drivers?
[08:04] <camara> graphics
[08:05] <camara> ATI  Radeon hd6470m
[08:10] <thetenthdr> Howdy
[08:12] <thetenthdr> Wondering if anyone can help me out, trying to install 13.04 on my desktop and keep getting Errno 5,
[08:14] <blazemore> thetenthdr: You may have some bad sectors on target HDD.
[08:14] <blazemore> thetenthdr: To check sda1 volume for bad sectors in Linux run fsck -cc /dev/sda1. For drive C: in Windows it should be chkdsk c: /f /r.
[08:15] <mstksg> hi all ... i accidentally installed gnome on my server and now when i boot my box it doens't automatically go to a tty like it used to after aptitude remove-ing gde
[08:15] <mstksg> does anyone know how i can return to this behavior?
[08:15] <thetenthdr> Ive tried 2 HDDs, both passed Chkdsk, should have said that in the beggining
[08:15] <blazemore> thetenthdr: Sounds like a dodgy iso, have you checked its integrity?
[08:16] <bazhang> !nox | mstksg
[08:16] <thetenthdr> Im reinstalling W7 so i can redownload the ISO, but this is also the second ISO. Could LinuxLive be causing the problem?
[08:17] <mstksg> bazhang thanks
[08:17] <blazemore> thetenthdr: I've never had a problem with it. Check your USB drive for bad sectors too
[08:17] <blazemore> thetenthdr: Are you using a USB drive to install?
[08:18] <thetenthdr> Kind of. Its a MicroSD in a USB adapter, functions as a USB drive
[08:18] <blazemore> OK thetenthdr are you using LinuxLiveUSB to create the bootable USB flash drive?
[08:19] <thetenthdr> Yes
[08:19] <blazemore> thetenthdr: Try formatting it first in Windows, then doing chkdsk d: /f /r (where d is the drive letter)
[08:20] <blazemore> thetenthdr: Or download and burn an iso to a DVD from the live session
[08:20] <thetenthdr> Ok, ill do that next, redownload and remake the LiveUSB and see if it works.
[08:20] <thetenthdr> I dont have any DVD blanks left or i would.
[08:22] <thetenthdr> Thank you for the advise, ill let you know how it goes
[08:22] <blazemore> good luck
[08:24] <doomlord_> beofre i plug one in, can anyone verify if the nvidia gtx 640 works with ubuntu unity :13.04 - i know it did not with 12.04.
[08:29] <devbg> irc.gbg.bg
[08:37] <foobArrr> I have a problem with one of my displays sometimes not beeing recognized ("HDMI3 disconnected" in xrandr), and I have no idea why or even where to start looking for the problem. It doesn't matter which HDMI port I connect it to. Disconnecting and reconnecting sometimes helps, most times it doesn't. Powering down the computer and restarting sometimes helps, most times it doesn't. And the next day everything works fine again. I replaced the HDMI cable, n
[08:37] <foobArrr> o success. My other displays work fine with this computer, my other computers work fine with this display. (hardware: intel hd 3000 graphics on a Gigabyte H67N-USB3-B3 motherboard, HP w2207h display)
[08:46] <roarde> Is the hardware clock local/UTC setting still in /etc/default/rcS as "UTC=yes"   (or no)?
[08:46] <roarde> In other words, is that where this setting is made?
[08:52] <roarde> could someone do "grep '# Set UTC=yes if" /etc/default/rcS" and let me know if the line is there, please?
[08:53] <roarde> (even if I mismatched the single quote. oops.)
[08:54] <blazemore> roarde: No output on Ubuntu 12.04 server
[08:54] <somsip> roarde: nothing here when I do that
[08:54] <somsip> roarde: 12.04
[08:54] <roarde> thank you blazemore, somsip.
[08:55] <roarde> do you know where the UTC/localtime hardware clock setting is made on an installed system?
[08:55] <somsip> roarde: however, "grep 'UTC' /etc/default/rcS" yields "UTC=yes"
[08:55] <roarde> ah. Thank you, that's the answer, somsip! Guess they've changed the comment.
[08:56] <roarde> or wait. my mistake. '#' is a metacharacter in regex
[08:56] <thetenthdr> Blazemore: USB key passed Chkdsk, redownloaded ISO and confirmed MD5, creating Live Key again now then one last chkdsk on the HDD before i try this install again. Anything im missing?
[08:56] <somsip> roarde: yeah - no comment, no set
[08:57] <roarde> one more thing on time:  'which hwclock', please?
[08:58] <dorongutman> hello
[08:58] <dorongutman> how can I set rsyslog to send logs to a remote server (loggly.com), but only specific facility' logs (such as LOCAL3) ?
[08:58] <somsip> roarde: /sbin/hwclock
[08:58] <blazemore> roarde: same
[08:58] <roarde> that'll do. thanks again.
[08:58] <blazemore> thetenthdr: Make sure you safely remove it from Windows
[08:59] <blazemore> thetenthdr: And do an integrity check from the LiveCD's boot menu
[08:59] <thetenthdr> Blazemore: ok, will do
[08:59] <thetenthdr> Blazemore: thank you
[09:12] <dell_> please any one suggest to fix this problem. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5861049/
[09:13] <blazemore> dell_: First remove the Merge List by opening a terminal (Hit Ctrl-Alt-T to launch) and running this command
[09:13] <blazemore> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[09:14] <blazemore> dell_: Next generate a new one by running a simple update
[09:14] <blazemore> sudo apt-get update
[09:14] <dat789> hi! Got a question -- you know how when an application is installed (e.g Skpye) the shortcut with icon appears and that you can click and drag to place it on the launcher? How does one edit the properties of that launcher icon?
[09:15] <blazemore> dat789: ls /usr/share/applications/*.desktop
[09:15] <blazemore> dat789: Those files you can edit
[09:16] <dell_> blazemore: ok. i am doing that.
[09:17] <dat789> @blazemore: for example, I've dragged Pidgin onto launcher. Each time I click to run it, it doesn't work. I have to run a pidgin.sh script on the terminal to make it work.
[09:17] <blazemore> dat789: Install alacarte
[09:19] <dat789> blazemore: ok, i found the pidgin.desktop. Does this take/read bash script -- just one line?
[09:19] <blazemore> dat789: No, take a look at it to see how it wors
[09:19] <blazemore> works*
[09:20] <dat789> blazemore: so, how then can i tell it to run  this line : NSS_SSL_CBC_RANDOM_IV=0 pidgin > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[09:20] <dat789> alacarte?
[09:20] <blazemore> dat789: yes
[09:20] <blazemore> dat789: alacarte is the menu editor that used to come with Ubuntu
[09:24] <dat789> blazemore: thanks man!
[09:24] <blazemore> no dat789
[09:24] <blazemore> np rather *
[09:25] <hayig2000> hi guys, is there an alternative game to starcraft?
[09:25] <luese> warcraft :P
[09:26] <hayig2000> opensource alternative
[09:27] <dell_> blazemore :  Thanks. :)
[09:27] <luese> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_video_games
[09:27] <luese> there are some RTS games
[09:27] <DJones> hayig2000: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ListOfOpenSourcePrograms#Games suggests having a look at Glest, Dark Oberon or Globulation
[09:27] <VictorCL> hi , my second monitor resolution went to like 800x600 it's been like since I restarted , how I can fix it?
[09:27] <VictorCL> on Preferences -> monitors it tells me Monitor: unknown
[09:28] <VictorCL> is being working fine always
[09:28] <hayig2000> ok thx all
[09:31] <spoown> Hello all !
[09:31] <dym> Hi Ubuntu! Im running 12.04.2 LTS on a machine and all attempts to add static routes to it fail - up route post-up on interfaces, a script based rc attempt, etc. what am i doing wrong? whats overwriting my routes? (especially defalt)
[09:32] <blazemore> dym: Add a static route using the "route" command
[09:32] <blazemore> route add [-net|-host] <IP/Net> netmask <Mask> gw <Gateway IP> dev <Int>X
[09:32] <blazemore> for example: route add -net 10.10.10.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.1.1 dev eth0
[09:33] <blazemore> This adds the route immediatly to the Kernel IP routing table. To confirm the route has been successfully, simply type the "route" command with no arguements:
[09:33] <blazemore> To keep the Static Route persistent or you want to add the route entries to the network script files (not using the route command) then all you need to do is to edit the file
[09:33] <blazemore> /etc/network/interfaces
[09:33] <blazemore> and add routes in this format: "up route add [-net|-host] <host/net>/<mask> gw <host/IP> dev <Interface>"
[09:34] <blazemore> eg up route add -net 172.20.11.0/16 gw 172.20.10.254 dev eth1
[09:37] <spoown> Is there a big diffrence running a 64 bits linux ? I mean with the programme we used every day... web browser, image editing , ... Are these programme running properly with a 64 bits kernel instead of a 32 bits ?
[09:38] <OerHeks> spoown faster, the CPU has bigger and more registers, and more commands
[09:42] <spoown> OerHeks, and when speaking about compatibilty of programs ? Does it change a lot ?  some programs not running/working on 64  bits ?
[09:43] <OerHeks> spoown, Ubuntu is multi-arch, so no problem running 32 bit apps on 64 bit
[09:44] <Slart> spoown: for every day use there is no difference.. you might run into some problems with special software (electronic id, banking security software and such) where the software supplier just doesn't supply a 64-bit version of their software
[09:54] <Oxymoron> Hi I wonder, what is the best terminal command if you do alt+ctrl+f1-7 and then need to restart Unity/Gnome and/or need to kill processes that frooze one desktop?
[09:54] <bobz_zg> need help on login as root in ubunutu server, i get: "su: Authentication failure"
[09:55] <bobz_zg> I have logged in trough ssh with my username i got
[09:55] <somsip> bobz_zg: use sudo -i
[09:55] <bobz_zg> @somsip but switching to root not working because my username is not in sudores
[09:55] <somsip> bobz_zg: so you should not have sudo access. Who admins your server?
[09:56] <spoown> bobz_zg, will be difficult if you don't known the root password
[09:56] <spoown> do you have access to vi
[09:56] <spoown> ?
[09:56] <bobz_zg> yes i can edit vi
[09:56] <bobz_zg> but can't edit sudores file
[09:56] <bobz_zg> no premissions
[09:56] <bobz_zg> I need to ask admin to add my username to sudores?
[09:56] <somsip> bobz_zg: so who admins your server? Who doesn't want you to have sudo access?
[09:57] <bobz_zg> he sent me pass for account : 'root'
[09:57] <bobz_zg> but I cant switch to it
[09:57] <bobz_zg> from my account
[09:57] <somsip> bobz_zg: have you tried to ssh in as root (very unsafe)
[09:57] <bobz_zg> and i cant do ssh root@host.com
[09:57] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:57] <somsip> bobz_zg: ok - so you need to contact your admin
[09:58] <bobz_zg> @somsip, what should i tell him to do?
[09:58] <bobz_zg> add my username to sudores?
[10:00] <somsip> bobz_zg: just tell him the problem. If he is an admin, he will decide on the best solution
[10:00] <bobz_zg> ok, thanks
[10:04] <Oxymoron> Hi I wonder, what is the best terminal command if you do alt+ctrl+f1-7 and then need to restart Unity/Gnome and/or need to kill processes that frooze one desktop?
[10:07] <wheatthin> Oxymoron, you'll type "sudo service lightdm restart"
[10:07] <Oxymoron> wheatthin: Is that all? lightdm?
[10:07] <wheatthin> yup
[10:09] <Oxymoron> wheatthin: Nice, shall remember that command. I also made a shortcut to gnome-system-monitor now so I can kill a process fast. Usually take long time to do it from terminal, so computer will freeze before. Btw, why does computer freeze at all? Is because of zombie processes or what?
[10:09] <wheatthin> Oxymoron, who knows? :P
[10:11] <wheatthin> sudo killall gnome-system-monitor
[10:12] <Oxymoron> wheatthin: For isntance now Firefox was going into 190 MB memory leak for some random reason. Then also I do not understand why Linux or Ubuntu for that matter isolate processes better? It should autodetect memory leakage and if computer CPU going like 90% usage, take automaticly action.
[10:13] <neer> hi
[10:13] <wheatthin> Oxymoron, perhaps installing apparmor will work
[10:13] <Oxymoron> wheatthin: Whats apparmor?
[10:14] <wheatthin> AppArmor - kernel enhancement to confine programs to a limited set of
[10:14] <wheatthin>        resources.
[10:14] <neer> hi
[10:14] <Oxymoron> wheatthin: It is installed by default since Ubuntu 7.04 it says
[10:14] <wheatthin> man apparmor
[10:14] <wheatthin> you can give it set of instructions to take place
[10:15] <Oxymoron> wheatthin: Really? :) Like kill Firefox if take more than 50 MB RAM?
[10:15] <occ> i want to test if ubuntu-12.04 works on a laptop. i intend to use 64 bit, but is it good enough to test thye 32 bit version? i assume it has all the same drivers(for wifi etc)
[10:16] <blazemore> occ: They should be equivelant
[10:16] <occ> ok blaze thanks
[10:19] <wheatthin> !apparmor
[10:27] <wheatthin> Oxymoron, you may want to check this, how to stop memory leaks ubuntu 12.04
[10:28] <wheatthin>  grr sorry about that
[10:29] <usbehci> hey
[10:29] <Leya> so this is the official support channel? can u maybe help me with my little problem?
[10:29] <blazemore> !ask | Leya
[10:32] <Leya> okay. i was using ubuntu for a while now and it worked perfectly. since today, i can't turn the wlan on anymore. it works perfectly with lan but whenever i try to use wlan, my netbook stops working and won't do anything and i have to reboot.
[10:32] <Oxymoron> wheatthin: its alright.
[10:33] <xkernel> Is Postfix the best email server and the most secure?
[10:33] <blazemore> !best | xkernel
[10:34] <wheatthin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/158141/free-ram-disappears-memory-leak
[10:37] <angel96> hi
[10:37] <wheatthin> !ask angel96
[10:37] <QA> hi
[10:37] <wheatthin> !ask | angel96
[10:38] <angel96> where are you from?
[10:38] <wheatthin> it doesn't matter, do you have a support question?
[10:38] <angel96> no
[10:38] <wheatthin> alrighty if you want to chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:40] <Onixs> chill a lil bit
[10:42] <Onixs> gma3650 still not supported?
[10:45] <nbags> anyone know anything like xbmc but simpler/lighter?
[10:51] <cretsiah> varunendra I found out what happened to my wifi.......
[10:52] <varunendra> cretsiah, and I've totally forgot what we were dealing with, lol :P
[10:52] <varunendra> so what was it?
[10:53] <cretsiah> lol yeh i broke the antenna to the pci device :(
[10:53] <varunendra> WHAT?? That sucks :/
[10:54] <rinzai> hi everyone
[10:54] <varunendra> Was an external antenna? cretsiah
[10:55] <rinzai> I bought a custom box without bluetooth and want to remove all bluetooth packages. I'm running 13.04 and the most recent help page I fond was for 12.04 (http://askubuntu.com/questions/309991/trying-to-remove-bluetooth-safe-to-do). Is this still valid?
[10:55] <cretsiah> yehluckily i still had a usb wifi plug floating around hahahahaa ...... yep an external antenna attached to the pci card, i was turning it around and must have got ti caught on the shelf cos it broke clean off
[10:55] <blazemore> rinzai: Why do you want to remove them?
[10:56] <rinzai> blazemore, the box has no bluetooth. I really don't need it.
[10:57] <cretsiah> rinzai you could always buy a bluetooth adapter
[10:58] <rinzai> cretsiah, true ... but it's more the other way around. I really don't use bluetooth in any device at home :)
[10:59]  * cretsiah doent even know how to use bluetooth ll
[10:59] <cretsiah> doesnt*
[10:59] <rinzai> :-P
[10:59] <cretsiah> i know its on my phone lol
[11:00] <cretsiah> i believe its on my samsung tablet but never use it
[11:00]  * Sidewinder Is a bluetooth virgin as well. :(
[11:00] <OnkelTem> Hi all. How to set umask? There are tens of places where umask could be set, but I don't understand which one is primary
[11:00] <OnkelTem> Specifically, I cna't set umask for root
[11:00] <OnkelTem> It is equal to 0026
[11:01] <rinzai> cretsiah, goes without saying, it has a multitude of uses. But I never needed it.
[11:01] <blazemore> rinzai: You could just stop the applet from loading on startup
[11:01] <schnuffle> OnkelTem: set umask globally, for a user ......?
[11:02] <OnkelTem> schnuffle: for the root user
[11:02] <cretsiah> rinzai, yeh i see all these bluetooth enabled devices ...........(then i look at the price and say nah)
[11:03] <rinzai> blazemore, thanks. it's I've noticed the indicator was running even though it doesn't show up in tray
[11:03] <schnuffle> OnkelTem: you can set it in ~/.profile
[11:03] <OnkelTem> schnuffle: yes, I can, but I think it should be 0022 by default.
[11:04] <schnuffle> OnkelTem: yes default is 0022
[11:05] <rinzai> cretsiah, I have in my phone and tablet. But only use it for the keyboard + tablet. This box was originally planned to be a headless server, so it's a different case.
[11:05] <schnuffle> OnkelTem: check /etc/profile and /etc/bashrc
[11:05] <rinzai> ok, thanks everyone
[11:05] <babinlonston> how can i add client machines to get monitored in nagios 3
[11:06] <schnuffle> OnkelTem: if you don't find anything maybe that can help: find /etc -type f -exec grep -H 026 {} \;
[11:07] <babinlonston> nagios installed in 192.168.1.20 , i want to monitor 5 more servers there in ip 192.168.1.21,22,23,24,25
[11:09] <amused> hi. not sure if i'm in the right place. I have a question
[11:09] <blazemore> go ahead amused
[11:09] <amused> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my netbook
[11:10] <amused> i'm using a usb
[11:10] <amused> I put the usb in and I start up the netbook, but when I reach the loading screen and try to enter hte BIOS, the netbook freezes and doesn't do anything
[11:10] <amused> when the usb isn't in the netbook, it goes into the bios fine
[11:11] <blazemore> amused: Enter the BIOS first without the USB stick plugged in. Change the boot order to boot from USB first
[11:11] <amused> I tried that
[11:11] <blazemore> amused: Then reboot with the flash drive inserted
[11:11] <blazemore> Oh and what happened?
[11:11] <amused> nothing changed after I did that. it still froze
[11:11] <blazemore> Can you boot any other PCs from this flash drive?
[11:12] <Pici> babinlonston: you need to create entries for them in your nagios conf files.  nagios itself does not have any sort of configuration management toolset built in, but there are a few third party addons that can acomplish that.
[11:12] <aiten_44> amused: did you try different usb ports or the same one everytime
[11:12] <amused> i'm not sure. i haven't tried. maybe it's a problem with the flash drive.
[11:12] <amused> I did try different ports
[11:12] <Sidewinder> amused, Did you md5sum the ISO image prior to copying it to the USB?
[11:12] <blazemore> It seems like a problem with the flash drive, although you should check the md5sum of the image and recreate the flash drive
[11:12] <babinlonston> Any Tuts Regarding this u have except Googling ...
[11:12] <aiten_44> and how did you copy it to the flash drive?
[11:13] <amused> Sidewinder: i'm not sure what that means. I formatted the usb and put the iso on it with unetbootin
[11:13] <amused> i've tried a few different iso's and i've used a couple different programs to put it on the usb. i don't think that's the source of the problem
[11:13] <Sidewinder> !md5sum | amused
[11:13] <blazemore> amused: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Windows
[11:14] <blazemore> amused: What model of netbook is it, anyway?
[11:14] <amused> it's a little toshiba
[11:15] <Sidewinder> amused, Hope that helps. I got a bad image and ruined about 4 CD until I realized and downloaded a fresh imahe of ubuntu.
[11:15] <amused> model number NB505-N500BL in case it matters
[11:15] <Sidewinder> image, even.
[11:15] <recoil> hi for some reason ubuntu (fresh install) recognizes a left button press on my touchpad also as a scroll down command...
[11:16] <recoil> Acer aspire 5745DG
[11:16] <amused> I'll look into that and try another usb
[11:17] <Sidewinder> amused, I have found it easier to deal with one variable at a time; md5 the image and if it checks out, then troubleshoot the USB.
[11:17] <amused> thank you sidewinder. do you think is hould still do that even though i've tried multiple ISOs? I've tried different versions of Ubuntu
[11:19] <Sidewinder> amused, If you've tried multiple versions that suggests another problem, however, if all ISOs are corrupted they'll never work. It is always best to verify {md5sum} the image first, then go from there.
[11:20] <marawan2> could lubuntu run steam
[11:20] <blazemore> marawan2: Yes
[11:20] <marawan2> blazemore: well it doesn't
[11:21] <recoil> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i synaptics tells me that my touchpad has middle and tripple and scroll buttons wich it doesnt...
[11:21] <recoil> so i guess scroll buttons are on left and right..
[11:21] <OerHeks> marawan2, sure it does, do you use opensource videodriver or the closed source one?
[11:21] <recoil> any idea?
[11:22] <OerHeks> marawan2, steam needs the closed source, for more info join #ubuntu-steam
[11:22] <marawan2> oerheks: what are open source or closed soucrce video drivers
[11:22] <OerHeks> marawan2, open driver is standard installed. the closed one you need to install yourself tu softwarecenter
[11:23] <marawan2> oerheks: i did install the file from the website and extract then install which i guess is open driver
[11:24] <marawan2> when i run it it doesn't work
[11:24] <OerHeks> marawan2, we never suggest to download from the website, use the one ubuntu provides.
[11:24] <marawan2> oerheks: maybe there is min system requirments to run steam(my lap top is old)
[11:25] <vicky> hi ubuntu. Why network connection is not stable (both wired and wireless) in ubuntu 12.04/ ubuntu 13.04 ? I faced it after kernel updates in ubuntu 12.04.
[11:25] <marawan2> oerheks: LUBUNTU software center doesn't have steam
[11:25] <timini> Hi I have a user which can't get shell access, When I try to login as them I automatically get logged out again with no error message, does anyone have any idea what the problem might be?
[11:25] <marawan2> oerheks: i installed ubuntu software ceneter and installed steam still didn't work
[11:25] <occ> the ubuntu 32 bit iso is 1.9gb..... i have a 2gb usb stick -but it says only 1.87gb is free??! it is fat32.... if i format it for another file system will it free more space?
[11:26] <OerHeks> marawan2, you need a good machine with a recent graphicscard for steam, maybe your laptop is not suitable for steam, i can't tell
[11:26] <blazemore> !binarydriver | marawan2
[11:26] <schnuffle> timini: have you checked the syslog
[11:27] <marawan2> oerheks: ya i guess that is the thing
[11:27] <amused> folks, i checked, and the iso is not corrupted. I'll buy another usb stick tomorrow and if that doesn't work I'll probably be back. Thank you for your help
[11:28] <varunendra> vicky, can you somehow show us the output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net" ??
[11:28] <occ> i should have bought the 4gb usb stick... was only £1 more
[11:28] <occ> it said 2gb though. those liars
[11:28] <blazemore> occ: The Ubuntu 32 bit iso is not 1.9g
[11:29] <occ> oh sorry ubuntu studio
[11:29] <blazemore> Needs to be fat32 I think
[11:29] <occ> ahh damn
[11:29] <blazemore> Get yourself a 32 or 64 gig USB3 flash drive and nevery worry again
[11:30] <occ> yeh
[11:30] <blazemore> Mine wasn't even expensive it was like £20
[11:30] <occ> i see
[11:30] <occ> is it possible the 1.9gb iso will still fit on the usb stick with 1.87gb? because i know different file systems show different file sizes and stuff
[11:31] <occ> like if i copy files from my computer to an external drive, the file sizes are different
[11:31] <blazemore> No they're not
[11:31] <blazemore> They shouldn't be
[11:32] <blazemore> Ask #ubuntu-studio if it's possible to get some kind of smaller iso and install packages later from the Internet
[11:32] <dym> Hi Ubuntu! Im running 12.04.2 LTS on a machine and all attempts to add static routes to it fail - up route post-up on interfaces, a script based rc attempt, etc. what am i doing wrong? whats overwriting my routes? (especially defalt)
[11:32] <occ> im sure it has happend. i have a script that shows the sizes of files on my disk and my backup media. every time they are different
[11:32] <occ> yeh will do thanks... going out now
[11:33] <varunendra> occ, vendor's 2 GB = 2000 MB, OS's 2 GB = 2 GiB = 2 x 1024 MiB
[11:33] <vicky> My lspci output at http://pastebin.com/7xbQsyc5
[11:33] <blazemore> dym: You can put static routes in /etc/network/interfaces - see here for more information http://askubuntu.com/questions/168033/how-to-set-routes
[11:34] <dym> blazemore: I already tried. Did not work.
[11:35] <varunendra> vicky, both these devices should be working fine. Can you explain the nature of the problem (when and how it occurs)?
[11:36] <blazemore> dym: Can you please post the output of both "cat /etc/network/interfaces" and "route" on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:37] <blazemore> dym: both as root
[11:37] <dym> blazemore: will do in a bit.
[11:38] <blazemore> OK well I'm going to get some lunch now, later
[11:38] <dym> blazemore: provider has rendered the machine unreachable. not to worry about routes anyways :)
[11:38] <dym> blazemore: enjoy!
[11:38] <mustafa> hi i think i have a problem with the apache server on ubuntu 12.10 when want to log in to my localhost site i keep getting http error 500 i went to apache error logs and i saw i keep getting that error ([Wed Jul 10 14:05:41 2013] [error] [client 168.150.2.81] PHP Warning:  Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in $)
[11:39] <tears_> Hey how can I use a word list to crack an alphanumeric password? Eg if password is passWord5 and the word/string "password" is contained in the list.
[11:39] <tears_> Using hydra
[11:40] <mustafa> and that eoorr too ([Wed Jul 10 14:05:41 2013] [error] [client 168.150.2.81] PHP Fatal error:  Unknown: Failed opening required '/var/www/index.$)
[11:40] <blazemore> tears_: just type "hydra" it tells you the usage
[11:40] <vicky> My problem is exactly  same as 'http://askubuntu.com/questions/315756/ethernet-is-unstable-in-ubuntu-13-04'.Previously i was using ubuntu 12.04 , it happened after installing updates. I m sure about it. But the problem exists by default in ubuntu 13.04.
[11:40] <OerHeks> tears_,  we do not support cracking
[11:40] <vicky> I guess it may some kernel bug.
[11:40] <OerHeks> !cracking > tears_
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> tears_  wrong channel
[11:41] <Thetenthdr> Ok, trying to install 13.04 from LiveUSB, ISO MD5 checked out, chkdsk cleared the USB and HDD with 0 errors, still getting Errno 5
[11:41] <recoil> hi how can i determine which buttons are pressed by my touchpad
[11:41] <tears_> blazemore OerHeks It's  for my system. I'm cracking into localhost from my shell. Hydra seems to use only the string as it is in the words list.
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> Thetenthdr  and does it say what that error means?
[11:41] <tears_> I'm doing nothing illegal
[11:42] <OerHeks> tears_, stop asking please.
[11:42] <k1l> tears_: its not supported in this channel. stop asking. EOD
[11:42] <mustafa> no i check it its not the kernel its some think have to do with apache default setting have been changed
[11:42] <Thetenthdr> MonkeyDust, input/output error
[11:42] <tears_> Okay I'm out
[11:42] <recoil> any idea?
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> Thetenthdr  more details can help to solve the problem, can you paste the error?
[11:43] <Thetenthdr> Ill get a screen, hang on
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> Thetenthdr  use imagebin or pastebin
[11:44] <varunendra> vicky, when the connection stops responding, run "wireless_script" and post back the pastebin link to its report : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[11:44] <mustafa> i checked the apache on site and they said its some thing to do with fopen
[11:44] <Thetenthdr>  Imagebin link?
[11:45] <mustafa> any idea
[11:45] <doomlord_> is there a window manager which can be configured to replicate apple's Mission-Control exactly - ability to switch desktops *while showing 'scale' window overview*
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> doomlord_  apple uses copyright, exact copy would be illegal
[11:46] <doomlord_> but can you circument that by making it options the user can configure
[11:46] <mustafa> hi i think i have a problem with the apache server on ubuntu 12.10 when want to log in to my localhost site i keep getting http error 500 i went to apache error logs and i saw i keep getting that error ([Wed Jul 10 14:05:41 2013] [error] [client 168.150.2.81] PHP Warning:  Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in $)
[11:47] <doomlord_> and via the fact you're not trying to sell or make money out of the feature
[11:47] <doomlord_> Gnome-Shell *nearly* does it- but puts the desktops vertically, which gives me vertigo - also for some reason they decide to scale the windows small so you can't see the content, leaving most of the screenspace wasted
[11:48] <doomlord_> .. out of the box i dont like gnome shell, i prefer ubuntu unity
[11:48] <recoil> doomlord use native window placement
[11:48] <mustafa> hi i think i have a problem with the apache server on ubuntu 12.10 when want to log in to my localhost site i keep getting http error 500 i went to apache error logs and i saw i keep getting that error ([Wed Jul 10 14:05:41 2013] [error] [client 168.150.2.81] PHP Warning:  Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in $) help please...
[11:49] <doomlord_> something that would help is if you could flick desktops with the mousewheel on the desktop-switcher icon (like you could with the gnome panels)
[11:49] <Guest83055> ,hyek
[11:49] <Guest83055> anyone here...
[11:50] <Sidewinder> About 1576
[11:50] <Thetenthdr> MonkeyDust, im on my phone because the desktop in inop.
[11:51] <recoil> please someone tell me how do i see my output of the touchpad...
[11:51] <Guest83055> need advice....i use linux mint 15...wat suitable for wireless card>>>???
[11:51] <Hirs> recoil, xev?
[11:51] <Pici> Guest83055: We don't support Mint here.
[11:51] <Pici> !mintsupport | Guest83055
[11:51] <recoil> Hirs: thanks
[11:52] <vicky> I couldnt download the script.It says  'connection timed out'
[11:52] <Guest83055> huh....but stii linux.....
[11:52] <Leya> any idea why i cant turn my wifi on?
[11:52] <dorsatum> there's a question on Ask Ubuntu, where his laptop is not detecting his USB, especially when a certain amount of data transfer has taken place. How can this be solved?
[11:52] <noiro> is wine compatible with cubeworld?
[11:52] <Pici> !appdb | noiro ask wine's appdb
[11:53] <recoil> why the **** does a left mouse klick cause a release of mouse button 4?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> doomlord_  docky or avant combined with a mac theme is the closest you can get, i guess
[11:54] <doomlord_> oh i dont need the whole mac desktop .. .its just a few features of the window manager that i'm after
[11:55] <doomlord_> quit happy with a lot of what unity does ... its literally just the triggering for moving between windows & desktops - and how its integrated with 'scale/expose' - with the multitouch trackpad - that nothing else can match
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> doomlord_  13.04 has unity-tweak-tool, maybe that's useful
[11:57] <doomlord_> yeah i've used that quite a bit..
[11:57] <dorongutman> how can I set rsyslog to send logs to a remote server (loggly.com), but only specific facility' logs (such as LOCAL3) ?
[11:57] <mikubuntu> i have a 2800 page .pdf that i want to convert to dynamic .pdf so that all the links will be live, does anybody know an app that can handle this? (the file size is 6.9 mb)
[11:57] <doomlord_> ccsm etc
[11:58] <doomlord_> i dont think it would be impossible to match it's convinience another way, its just I haven't found any config that does..
[11:58] <Thetenthdr> Anyone? Errno 5 any time i try to install, MD5 good, chkdsk good,
[11:59] <doomlord_> one idea I have is 'expo' (desktop grid) with multiple zoom levels, e.g. if you had a "zoom out" and "zoom in" hotkey - you could have 3x3 desktops , but the first press shows you 2x2 around where you are, press again to see all 3x3 ... like zooming in and out of a map
[11:59] <doomlord_> thats what the mac system acheived, both in snow lepoard and now with mission control... multiple zoom levels, in effect via the way their window & desktop overviews combine
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:02] <Thetenthdr> Nobody?
[12:02] <blazemore> !patience | Thetenthdr
[12:02] <Thetenthdr> Ive been searching for 3 days lol
[12:04] <blazemore> Thetenthdr: What's the md5sum of your downloaded iso?
[12:04] <Thetenthdr> Hang on, ill boot back over to w7 and getbit
[12:07] <BushRat> morning..
[12:08] <Thetenthdr> Blazemore, 8D72E2DB7E72E13813731EAB37A14D26
[12:08] <BushRat> so many ppl so little talking
[12:09] <compdoc> we just dont like you
[12:09] <compdoc> jk :)
[12:09] <compdoc> ooops
[12:09] <Thetenthdr> Sorry, i was typing an MD5 lol
[12:11] <timini> How can I enable interactive login for a system account?
[12:15] <OerHeks> Thetenthdr, error 5, do you install in VMware or something?
[12:16] <Thetenthdr> Oerheks, no, trying to install as dual boot with W7
[12:16] <Thetenthdr> Ive also tried installing it as the only os with the same results.
[12:23] <timini> I have an account that was created with "useradd --system myuser" and I want to modify this user account so that it can have interactive login. Does anyone know how?
[12:27] <timini> OK found I can just edit /etc/passwd
[12:28] <llutz> timini: "man usermod"
[12:29] <vadimius> What happened to the channel # ubuntu-ru?
[12:30] <DJones> vadimius: Its still there #ubuntu-ru
[12:30] <vadimius> Connects to an empty group
[12:31] <Thetenthdr> Well, this clearly isnt going to work.
[12:31] <DJones> vadimius: There are 26 people in there that I can see
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> vadimius  there's no space between # and ubuntu
[12:32] <marianne> hi guys - 12.04 is my version-- I'm wondering if anyone has had any success running games off of the Origin site using wine?
[12:32] <vadimius> I am connected to the channel #ubuntu-ru
[12:32] <Thetenthdr> Thanks to the people that tried to help, and have a good night. Maybe ill try again in a few releases.
[12:32] <DJones> marianne: /w 21
[12:33] <DJones> vadimius: You're not in it that I can see
[12:33] <DJones> vadimius: Are you on two different IRC networks and connecting to #ubuntu-ru on the wrong network
[12:34] <DJones> marianne: You might be better asking that in ##winehq they're probably more likely to have an answer
[12:34] <marianne> DJones: thanks, I'll go over there
[12:34] <Leya> i now the !patience thing, but isnt there any posibility someone could help me?
[12:37] <k1l> !details | Leya
[12:37] <Leya> okay, again.
[12:38] <makara> hi. I'm having trouble with my Wifi (AR9285) on Ubuntu 13.04. After some time it disconnects and won't even show in Unity's list of connections. I have to disable Wifi with hardware switch and re-enable. Here is iwlan scan before and after hardware switch. It looks the same, and yet PEACE network doesn't display Unity's list of connections? http://pastebin.com/yWmJM80f http://pastebin.com/9TBpZAjK
[12:39] <Leya> i use ubuntu 12.4. everyting worked perfectly fine untill today. i cant turn my wifi on. everytime i try everything stops working and i have to reboot. i dont have a clue what the problem could be. any ideas?
[12:40] <k1l> Leya: take a look into dmesg and syslog (in /var/log/ ) to see what happens to the system
[12:40] <b14d3> Running Ubuntu 12.04.2, my motd when I ssh in has said that a drive is going to be checked for errors at reboot for a while, after several reboots. The last time I tried to make that go away, I ended up breaking my whole motd. Any way that I can get rid of that message?
[12:42] <compiss> hi guys im experiencing problems with compiz lately on 12.04. Workspace and Application Switcher are causing major problems. Any help?
[12:43] <jnhghy> I get error on boot: serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /home     I've checked the hdd with hbcd hdat2-> No errors and s.m.a.r.t.->no errors, I've tried to run fsck but that one got me no were (5 houers later after the command no output on the screen and I stopped the command) what next?
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> b14d3  is this useful http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ssh-welcome-banner-on-ubuntu/
[12:44] <compiss> jnhghy: did you try to force fsck on startup?
[12:44] <jnhghy> compiss: I've entered recovery mode and run it from there... are there any differences?
[12:45] <b14d3> MonkeyDust: I'm hesitant to update /etc/motd because I'm fairly sure it's automatically generated, and I think that may have been my problem last time when I changed that.
[12:46] <compiss> jnhghy: i am a noob, but do you know this autmated disc check, that it does every 30 or so boots? you can force this, it will do fsck check while after boootin, this is what i would try
[12:47] <dazzle> Does someone have experience on ubuntu-zfs? Positive experiences, negative ones?
[12:47] <jnhghy> compiss:thnks for the suggestion
 WiFi disabled by radio killswitch; disabled by state file   ?!
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> b14d3  other tutorials basically advice the same thing
[12:47] <compiss> jnhghy: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/
[12:47] <compdoc> dazzle, ive installed it and tested. works pretty well. I have a few risd5 arrays that Id like to switch to zfs someday
[12:48] <compdoc> *raid5
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> b14d3  how skilled are you in bash coding? this is somewhat more advanced http://serverfault.com/questions/36421/stop-ssh-login-from-printing-motd-from-the-client
[12:50] <compiss> hi guys im experiencing problems with compiz lately on 12.04. Workspace and Application Switcher are causing major problems. Any help? maybe i can just delete the config file? anyone know where it is? im using gnome-fallback aka gnome classic
[12:50] <erry> so i recently moved back to unity and i managed to get the top panel and the left panel stuck in that clicking anything on them doesn't do anything, what do? (other than logout)
[12:51] <compdoc> compiss, dont know much about them, but did you install a propritory vid card driver?
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> compiss  i use classic (no effects), it's very fast
[12:52] <compiss> compdoc, yes doc, i use the nvidia driver, and i know it suck big on linux often
[12:52] <compdoc> that might be the problem
[12:52] <compiss> MonkeyDust, yes but i do want my wobbly windows back^^ =(
[12:54] <compiss> compdoc, i got it to where the settings worked perfectly but then one day switching workspaces failed and i got the setting s wrong i guess
[12:54] <compiss> compdoc, that also messed my application switcher
[12:54] <b14d3> MonkeyDust: Fairly. I think I actually fixed it by changing the file that is automatically generated. It appears that between the bash script and the displayed motd, there is an interim text file. Cleared things out of that, ran the motd updater, and it's gone.
[12:54] <dazzle> compdoc: Very nice! I tried out raid5 and my performance plummeted. Using 3 x 2TB - I let the array finish.
[12:55] <compdoc> dazzle, raid  performance depends a lot on the card
[12:55] <dazzle> compdoc: Soft raid 5 :(
[12:57] <mm12> hey all
[12:57] <mm12> is ubuntu better then windows 8
[12:57] <blazemore> !best | mm12
[12:57] <DJones> erry: Restarting Unity may solve the problem with logging out & back in http://askubuntu.com/questions/38579/how-do-i-restart-an-unity-session-from-the-terminal (I've not needed to use any of these, so can't say which will work best)
[12:58] <mm12> so is it ok to have it side by side blazemore
[12:58] <uzername|2> Hello! I need to run my jar-files on freshly installed ubuntu.
[12:58] <blazemore> mm12: Yes, you can install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8 and choose which one you want to boot when you turn your computer on
[12:58] <blazemore> uzername|2: Install Java from the Ubuntu Software Centre
[12:58] <mm12> ahh u cant do that thats ok..
[12:58] <uzername|2> What should I install: Oracle JRE or OpenJDK
[12:59] <blazemore> uzername|2: Either will work fine, but openjdk is in the repositories and is better supported
[12:59] <mm12> i heard the firewall is pretty good on ubuntu
[12:59] <mm12> no viruses on ubuntu
[12:59] <compiss> mm12: try linux mint or ubuntu 12.04 !! (no newer version)
[12:59] <blazemore> mm12: It's based on iptables. Whether or not it's good for you depends on your needs
[12:59] <blazemore> compiss: Why are you saying that?
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> mm12  it's called ip tables and can be managed with ufw, fwbuilder and other tools
[13:00] <uzername|2> so, what's the command?
[13:00] <uzername|2> sudo apt-get install openjdk
[13:00] <uzername|2> ???
[13:00] <compiss> for the commercial aims, blazemore
[13:00] <erry> DJones, thanks, i used the first one on my own already but the second answer looks more promising so i'll try it next time D:
[13:00] <erry> :D*
[13:00] <blazemore> uzername|2: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre
[13:00] <Znoosey> uzername|2: sudo apt-cache search jdk
[13:01] <Znoosey> then you will find several and can pick the right one :)
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> !av | mm12
[13:01] <uzername|2> thanks. Btw, how do you get to know the exact package names?
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> uzername|2  in a terminal, type apt-cache search [part of package name]
[13:02] <jjavaholic> how would you debug an empty indicator-datetime panel menuitem.
[13:02] <makara> Leya, for Wifi issues I've found the best bet is to get the latest kernel
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> makara  Leya but anything beyond the officially used kernel, is not supported here
[13:04] <makara> MonkeyDust Leya, so get the latest Ubuntu because 12.04, despite what's its meant to be, gave me trouble until I upgraded
[13:05] <mm12> cool thanks
[13:13] <hadifarnoud> how can I make a job silent in ubuntu?
[13:13] <hadifarnoud> it's interrupting my input with all the verbose output it generates
[13:14] <anonee> hi, I've been trying to do this for several months now, would anyone please help? I want wine to be able to deal with arabic exe files, my GUI language is English.
[13:14] <anonee> Arabic file names are already displayed correctly on my desktop, but when I try to open something in wine I get question marks. p.s. please don't tell me to ask winehq room. it's just too quite.
[13:15] <anonee> in windows, the system locale is described as the decoding method used for programs that don't support unicode. and I've tried to find a similar setting in ubuntu but no joy so far. reading this http://www.winehq.org/docs/winedev-guide/adding-languages though i don't think it's what i want, but when i did $ find -name "*En.rc" nothing was found.
[13:16] <rypervenche> hadifarnoud: command > /dev/null 2>&1
[13:16] <auronandace> anonee: best asked in #winehq
[13:17] <hadifarnoud> rypervenche: I meant existing running jobs
[13:17] <anonee> auronandace they're totally quite, I can't keep asking if nobody's answering.
[13:17] <rypervenche> hadifarnoud: Personally I would type "ctrl+Z" then type "bg", from there I would type "disown" and then close the terminal.
[13:18] <hadifarnoud> rypervenche: that means it's not attached to my terminal so I wont get the output?
[13:18] <DJones> anonee: I think question is so specialised, you'll probably need to be patient in ##winehq, its something that people here probably won't have come across before, ##winehq may have a better idea
[13:18] <anonee> DJones :( thank you
[13:18] <rypervenche> hadifarnoud: It will pause the job, then put it in the background, then it will disown it so the terminal does not own the process, then closing the terminal stops the output from showing up. You can then open a new terminal.
[13:19] <hadifarnoud> thanks for the tips rypervenche. so much better this way.
[13:19] <rypervenche> hadifarnoud: Anytime :)
[13:29] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[13:31] <hadifarnoud> for some reason I still get output. it's a perl script rypervenche
[13:31] <hadifarnoud> jobs is empty now
[13:38] <tomreyn> hi, what's the recommended (most compatible, so most likely it will boot fine on some other notebook) way to install ubuntu to a USB key (i.e. not just a live / installer usb key but a complete installation, a HDD replacement)
[13:38] <tomreyn> ?
[13:39] <tomreyn> (i do know about persistent storage on the installer image but find this concept suboptimal for my use case.)
[13:40] <OerHeks> tomreyn, use 2 usb sticks, one with the installer, and install it on the 2nd one ( at least 5.5 gb )
[13:40] <OerHeks> * on the desired machine ofcourse
[13:41] <tomreyn> OerHeks: do you think i can replace the first one by a VM + ISO file?
[13:42] <OerHeks> tomreyn, sure, if your vm has privilege to write on the (2nd) usb
[13:43] <tomreyn> hmm, yes, should work, i'll do usb device passthrough with virtualbox
[13:43] <gumus> Hi all. HDMI output doesn't work at all on 12.04. I've updated the ATI software but nothing has changed. I get no signal at all. What should I do ?
[13:44] <gumus> I'm not acknowledged enough to interpret command outputs on terminal...
[13:44] <holstein> gumus: i would just use tha analog output.. otherwise, you can troubleshoot around and try running "aplay -l" in the terminal.. try using pavucontrol.. it may never work since linux support is not guaranteed by your product vendor
[13:45] <yuzefeng> ...
[13:45] <BluesKaj> gumus, which ati software graphics or audio ? You should update/upgrade both
[13:45] <holstein> alsa and kernel can help as well, if you are going to start replacing or updating things
[13:46] <gumus> BluesKaj: I know it's an ATI card but it seems unknown in Details
[13:46] <gumus> BluesKaj: I don't know the exact model
[13:47] <holstein> !ati | gumus should help you determine what you have
[13:49] <gumus> holstein: I couldn't get the code work.
[13:49] <holstein> gumus: what code?
[13:49] <jock_007> Hi
[13:50] <gumus> holstein: !ati | gumus
[13:50] <Blue> Hello everyone, good morning
[13:50] <holstein> gumus: you should be able to open a terminal and run "lspci" and see what devices you have listed there.. you can use pastebin to share that information with the volunteers here.. otherwise, what "code" are you having issues with?
[13:50] <cfhowlett2> Blue greetings.
[13:51] <shadowaliraq> hi
[13:51] <gumus> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5861689/
[13:52] <holstein> gumus: would you like a volunteer to look at that and tell you what graphics card you have?
[13:52] <holstein> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[13:52] <gumus> holstein: the thing is I can't see any graphics device
[13:52] <holstein> VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Robson CE [AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series]
[13:53] <holstein> gumus: there are the 2 you have.. im assuming its a hybrid graphics card?
[13:53] <holstein> gumus: also, you can pastebin "aplay -l"
[13:53] <holstein> gumus: TBH, you can waste *plenty* of time on this, and it may never work
[13:53] <holstein> gumus: can you just use the analog output?
[13:53] <gumus> holstein: I see...
[13:54] <gumus> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5861704/ this is the output of the second command.
[13:54] <holstein> gumus: also, get something playing, and use pavucontrol, as i suggested
[13:55] <holstein> !sound | gumus these suggestions are here
[13:55] <holstein> gumus: you can see with the card 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] line, that alsa and the kernel are trying to give you HDMI support
[13:57] <gumus> holstein: I guess it's beyond my capabilities. I don't know what to do at the moment
[13:58] <holstein> gumus: you misunderstand.. it may not be possible at all. nothing guarantees you HDMI support.. it many not be possible with the drivers provided to you and linux to support HDMI
[13:59] <holstein> gumus: this has nothing to do with your level of expertise in this case.. if you want linux support, consider purchasing hardware that provides it.. otherwise, it can be challenging, or in some cases, not possible
[13:59] <gumus> holstein: oh I see. But aren't there other examples of same problem ? Maybe even with the same model of the same brand ?
[14:00] <holstein> gumus: i dont have that hardware, friend... but you are welcom to share any relevant information you have found
[14:00] <gumus> holstein: Okay. Thank you for the help. I'll try to find out more
[14:01] <holstein> gumus: what would i do? get something playing, and try using pavucontrol.. i feel like you have not done that... i would look in alsamixer.. then, i would try different graphics drivers as was suggested to you
[14:01] <holstein> gumus: also, different kernel versions and alsa versions can affect your situation.. and at the end of the day, it may never work
[14:01] <gumus> holstein: I've just downloaded pavucontrol. Now I'm about to launch a video
[14:01] <holstein> gumus: why?
[14:02] <holstein> gumus: you are troubleshooting audio, correct? why not just play a known good audio file in a simple audio player?
[14:03] <gumus> holstein: Alright. I get nothing at all on tv screen anyway. Sorry, I'm a complete beginner it seems complicated to me sometimes
[14:04] <holstein> gumus: so, you may need to install a graphics driver, which would support the HDMI out for audio and video.. in theory
[14:04] <holstein> !ati | gumus
[14:04] <holstein> ^^ i dont know what you mean by "i cant run that code", but you should install the proprietary driver for you device mentioned there
[14:04] <gumus> holstein: okay!
[14:05] <recoil> hi i cannot dim my screen of my acer 5745DG adding acpi_backlight=vendor to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=Linux" didn't help
[14:06] <gumus> holstein: I just get that what I meant as code was actually for the irc. !ati | user  thing. hehe
[14:07] <holstein> gumus: but you can visit and refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto , correct?
[14:07] <gumus> holstein: exactly. Thanks for the sources. I'm gonna dig out
[14:08] <rajrajraj> anyone knows a sure way to connet usb modem in ubuntu 12.10
[14:08] <rajrajraj> connect*
[14:09] <holstein> rajrajraj: the usb should be no problem to connect.. are you reffering to the other end? a phone dial up modem? what kind of modem? any idea what brand/model it is? have you tried it with 13.04 live?
[14:09] <blazemore> There isn't a sure way rajrajraj - if the modem does not support Linux your options are very limted
[14:09] <rajrajraj> blazemore: its micromax mmx352 2g modem
[14:10] <zathras> hi. I am PXE booting 13.04 desktop. But I end up in busybox without errors. What might be the cause of this? Failing NFS mount?
[14:10] <uzername|2> Is it that hard to make .deb package by yourself?
[14:10] <uzername|2> Assuming you already have debugged source codes.
[14:11] <zathras> uzername|2, that depeneds if you want to do it from scratch or want to convert an existing package or rebuild one
[14:11] <holstein> rajrajraj: a dial up internet modem?
[14:12] <DigeratiW> I use logmein.com for windows, cant seem to find it for ubuntu, am I wasting my time looking or is there a way to make it work?
[14:12] <uzername|2> let's imagine that I already have some sources from github. Using configured Netbeans I have compiled them and now I have working binary file.
[14:14] <holstein> DigeratiW: they (logmein) can always offer to support the operating system you are choosing to use.. otherwise, i would look for another solution.. teamviewer works great, and there are lots of more manual solutions.. i havent looked/dont care about logmein support
[14:14] <El_Presidente> hello, is someone using two different video cards (e.g. nvidia // intel) with ubuntu?
[14:15] <DigeratiW> This ubuntu is a work desktop and I liked logmein as I could remote in without issue, will teamviewer not require an accept and just go right in?
[14:16] <zathras> DigeratiW, logmein to take over you Ubuntu workstation? What is wrong with ssh?
[14:16] <zathras> *your
[14:18] <DigeratiW> logmein allowed me to access my several computers from anywhere and any pc
[14:18] <DigeratiW> I may not always be at my pc or mac and be able to use ssh
[14:18] <DigeratiW> to get back to my workstation at work
[14:19] <zathras> hmm. I even an SSH client on my phone....
[14:20] <rajrajraj> holstein: yes
[14:21] <abhinavmehta> I'm using "Linux squeeze32-vanilla 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Fri May 10 08:33:48 UTC 2013 i686 GNU/Linux" and trying to install java…but says "-bash: java: command not found"…apt-get is also not working, whats wrong?
[14:21] <blazemore> abhinavmehta: Are you using Ubuntu?
[14:21] <Ontological> apt-cache search java | grep jre abhinavmehta
[14:21] <zathras> abhinavmehta, this is Ubuntu, not Debian. You need a JRE or JDK, not java
[14:21] <Ontological> So, you probably want libjrexx-java - automaton based regular expression API for java
[14:21] <zathras> abhinavmehta, squeeze is also outdated
[14:22] <Ontological> Sorry, guys
[14:22] <abhinavmehta> see this is just a VM
[14:22] <Ontological> abhinavmehta: You might want openjdk-7-jre
[14:22] <abhinavmehta> hmm, but how to add standard-sources?
[14:22] <zathras> abhinavmehta, OpenJDK is supported by default. Oracle's version requires a manual download/install nowadays
[14:23] <abhinavmehta> like in ubuntu if you don't have something installed than even typing some command on terminal says try "sudo apt-get opendsk…" something to get that package..
[14:23] <abhinavmehta> why not on this one?
[14:23] <zathras> same here
[14:23] <blazemore> abhinavmehta: ... this is an Ubuntu support channel
[14:23] <zathras> use aptitude
[14:23] <abhinavmehta> ok
[14:23] <zathras> and add sources to /etc/apt/sources.conf or sources.d
[14:24] <blazemore> zathras: it's /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[14:24] <zathras> blazemore, yes. sorry. ty
[14:24] <abhinavmehta> zathras: thank you it works
[14:25] <hernan68> hello friends I have a problem with the touch pad of my noteboock is running slow and sometimes hangs me ... I have ubuntu 12.04
[14:25] <abhinavmehta> zathras: I've added few sources to /etc/apt/sources.list but turned out not working
[14:25] <blazemore> hernan68: What model of notebook?
[14:25] <abhinavmehta> but aptitude works
[14:25] <blazemore> abhinavmehta: Run "sudo aptitude update" after
[14:25] <zathras> abhinavmehta, did you apt-get update?
[14:25] <abhinavmehta> blazemore: sure ty
[14:25] <abhinavmehta> zathras: yeap
[14:26] <abhinavmehta> I did apt-get update
[14:26] <blazemore> abhinavmehta: Bear in mind instructions for Ubuntu don't necessarily work for the very old version of Debian which you are using
[14:26] <hernan68> positivo bgh j-410
[14:26] <zathras> you want: main contrib non-free
[14:26] <abhinavmehta> blazemore: ahhh
[14:26] <abhinavmehta> zathras: give me a sec, I share you content of my sources.list
[14:26] <zathras> abhinavmehta, do so in a pastebin
[14:27] <abhinavmehta> zathras: offcourse!
[14:27] <recoil> hi i cannot dim my screen of my acer 5745DG adding acpi_backlight=vendor to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=Linux" didn't help
[14:28] <abhinavmehta> zathras: here it is: http://pastebin.com/VBWNeaWp
[14:28] <rajrajraj> blazemore: so is there a sure way to connect ?
[14:28] <blazemore> rajrajraj: No
[14:28] <blazemore> rajrajraj: I don't know about USb modems, are you having any problems connecting?
[14:28] <auronandace> abhinavmehta: we can only support ubuntu here, get debian help in their channel please
[14:28] <rajrajraj> blazemore: the usb modem is not being detected by network manager
[14:29] <rajrajraj> blazemore: its there in "lsusb" command
[14:29] <KriShaNsin> is a ASUS K55A K55A-DS71 15.6-Inch any good for running Ubuntu?
[14:29] <blazemore> rajrajraj: Can you please put your lsusb on http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[14:29] <rajrajraj> blazemore: the modem id is there in lsusb modem
[14:29] <recoil> echo 1 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acer-wmi/brightness doesnt help either
[14:30] <zathras> abhinavmehta, I would add contrib and non-free also to the first 3 sources, but it seems ok
[14:30] <hernan68> alguien habla español?
[14:30] <auronandace> !es | hernan68
[14:30] <recoil> i changed drivers from nuvuo to nvidia
[14:31] <rajrajraj> blazemore: actually i am on windows at the moment, coz i can not connect my ubuntu to internet
[14:31] <blazemore> OK rajrajraj try on Ubuntu doing the following
[14:31] <rajrajraj> lsusb command shows my usb modem at the end
[14:31] <blazemore> echo"1c9e 9605" | sudo tee -a /sys/bus/usb-serial/drivers/option1/new_id
[14:31] <KriShaNsin> recoil: are the drivers any good for  the ASUS K55A K55A-DS71 15.6-Inch on Ubuntu? is that a good laptop pc?
[14:31] <rajrajraj> hi arti
[14:32] <recoil> KriShansin that was not related to you
[14:32] <rajrajraj> blazemore: is that all
[14:32] <blazemore> rajrajraj: Let me know if it works
[14:33] <rajrajraj> blazemore: it may take time coz i shall have to switch, so i shall be back  after 15 min
[14:33] <KriShaNsin> is there a website that tells us which laptop to buy for Ubuntu?
[14:33] <d0d0> How do I install pip?
[14:33] <blazemore> d0d0: sudo apt-get install pip
[14:33] <d0d0> blazemore, unable to locate
[14:33] <eyeseye_> when i share a folder on the network, and write to that folder's file, the permissions change to 755 (from 644). how do i get folder sharing to _not_ change the permission?
[14:34] <auronandace> KriShaNsin: there is system76
[14:34] <blazemore> sorry it's python-pip
[14:34] <blazemore> d0d0: ^
[14:34] <d0d0> thanks a bunch
[14:34] <d0d0> what exactly is this pip?
[14:34] <d0d0> :D
[14:34] <blazemore> d0d0: Why do you want to install it if you don't know what it is?
[14:35] <d0d0> I'm learning python and this guide told me to get it
[14:35] <recoil> d0d0: A tool for installing and managing Python packages.
[14:35] <blazemore> It is like apt-get for python modules
[14:35] <d0d0> okay cool thanks
[14:35] <KriShaNsin> auronandace: can i run Ubuntu on just about any laptop then? and does system76 deliver to Afhghanistan or Bangkok?
[14:35] <blazemore> so you can "pip install workerpool"
[14:35] <blazemore> KriShaNsin: You should google the model name followed by "Ubuntu" and read what other people have said
[14:36] <blazemore> KriShaNsin: Generally, things just work
[14:36] <auronandace> KriShaNsin: depends on your hardware
[14:37] <auronandace> !hcl | KriShaNsin
[14:37] <PashaPasta> why not just use eggs for python?
[14:37] <recoil> there is no more xorg.conf right? how would i add a new section with Option "RegistryDwords" "EnableBrightnessControl=1"
[14:37] <auronandace> !xorgconf | recoil
[14:42] <snkcld> why does samba set permissions to 755 when i save a file?
[14:44] <DigeratiW> I just set up dual mons and I am using cinnamon 1.8, how to get the panel on mon on the left side? its defaulted to the right side
[14:45] <FfoO> Good day to all..
[14:45] <Pici> snkcld: There are options for file creation masks in /etc/samba/smb.conf, you should take a look and make sure that it is set properly (either globally or for your specific shares)
[14:46] <rajrajraj> this is the result:  tee: /sys/bus/usb-serial/drivers/option1/new_id: No such file or directory 1c9e 9605
[14:46] <wakaflocka> hello, ive asked this before, but i have ubuntu installed on a extended partition, how can i push this back to the primary partition, and remove windows without losing data
[14:47] <saiarcot895_> DigeratiW: I don't know about Cinnamon, but have you tried going into the Display settings and moving the monitors around?
[14:47] <DigeratiW> let me try that
[14:47] <rajrajraj> blazemore:  this is the result:  tee: /sys/bus/usb-serial/drivers/option1/new_id: No such file or directory 1c9e 9605
[14:48] <DigeratiW> does not work
[14:48] <DigeratiW> does not move the panel
[14:49] <rajrajraj> any one knows how to connect micromas mmx352 2g moden in ubuntu 12.10
[14:49] <rajrajraj> micromax(
[14:49] <saiarcot895_> DigeratiW: by "panel", do you mean the icons on the left side used to launch apps?
[14:50] <DigeratiW> damn I just got so locked up
[14:51] <DigeratiW> I mean the taskbar panel its at the bottom of the screen
[14:52] <brendan-> anyone experiencing issues with 12.04 server that the rpc.ipmapd process(es) get hung
[14:52] <saiarcot895_> DigeratiW: is there a launcher placement option or anything?
[14:52] <saiarcot895_> !server | brendan-
[14:52] <brendan-> i've had it happen on more than one machine, but not sure how to troubleshoot
[14:53] <obbe> wakaflocka: you can leave ubuntu where it is, and just remove windows
[14:55] <steveccc> can anyone recommend a piece of software for doing a full inventory of a disk - I basically want a ls across the whole disk but if it was formatted a little nicer then that would be great
[14:55] <matteo12> ciao a tutti
[14:55] <matteo12> xdcc send
[14:56] <saiarcot895_> steveccc: there is du (terminal command)
[14:56] <thelionroars> does debian/ubuntu run a version of echo that's more like printf? Because I tried using a script written on ubuntu and now \n keeps showing up in the file it's supposed to write...
[14:57] <steveccc> saiarcot895: it wasnt so I can tell how much space is used but rather a full listing of all files so that someone could search the text file to see if a file is present
[14:57] <saiarcot895_> steveccc: If you want to see if a file is present, try ls -R | grep "search term"
[14:58] <obbe> steveccc: find /
[14:58] <Pici> thelionroars: /bin/echo seems to have "disable interpretation of backslash escapes" as the default.  (oddly, the shell builtin in zsh does not)
[14:59] <lmat> steveccc: I didn't see your request, but   find . -name '*search*'  work well for recursive search.
[14:59] <llutz_> steveccc: find / -type f |xargs ls -lh|awk '{print $NF"  size:"$5}'
[15:00] <thelionroars> hmmm. I will look into it, thaks Pici
[15:00] <steveccc> thanks for the replies guys
[15:00] <lmat> llutz_: wow
[15:00] <obbe> it seems nautilus-python is broken in 13.04 due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus-python/+bug/1170017
[15:00] <DigeratiW> I had to go back to the ubuntu gi the cinnamon and gnome were not happy
[15:01] <steveccc> it was more so that I can email someone a text doc or a html file and they can have a full list of our files to check what they need and dont need rather than a search on a live system. Thus some type of software to generate the listing
[15:01] <obbe> a fix has been uploaded for 13.10, but how can I tell why this isn't released for 13.04?
[15:01] <lmat> steveccc: You're wanting to create a report of available files for people?
[15:02] <obbe> steveccc: like I said, "find /" or "find /where/my/disk/is/mounted" will give you such a list
[15:02] <steveccc> obbe: ok thanks - I wasnt sure if there was a good piece of software that does it a little neater / user friendly but I guess not
[15:02] <saiarcot895_> obbe: it doesn't seem to have been classified as a regression, just as a bug
[15:03] <obbe> a flat list of all paths, that is. Maybe that's still a bit cumbersome if there are thousands of files.
[15:03] <rajrajraj> any one knows how to connect micromax mmx352 2g moden in ubuntu 12.10
[15:03] <obbe> saiarcot895_:  unfortunately it breaks a number of extensions that worked in 12.10.
[15:04] <saiarcot895_> obbe: I think it could be classified as a regression and pushed for a Stable Release Update if someone wanted to do it based on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[15:04] <DigeratiW> what do I need to edit to make my hostname stay when I reboot. I change it and it goes back to the other name on reboot
[15:05] <DigeratiW> 12.04 ubuntu
[15:05] <saiarcot895_> obbe: Specifically, "Bugs which represent severe regressions from the previous release of Ubuntu. This includes packages which are totally unusable,..."
[15:06] <SwedeMike> DigeratiW: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9540/how-do-i-change-the-computer-name
[15:06] <DigeratiW> I think I got it
[15:06] <DigeratiW> edit the hostname manually
[15:06] <DigeratiW> the file
[15:06] <OerHeks> Edit the hostname file and replace the name "gksudo gedit /etc/hostname"  also change the name in hosts "gksudo gedit /etc/hosts" Leave the other stuff there untouched.
[15:08] <lyscer> I am having a hard time finding the correct terminology but I want to be able to put the ubuntu base core files on a HDD and then put it in the machine that it will go in and install it from there - is this possible? The machine it is going in doesn't have a cd rom and doesn't support thumb drive boot, which is why I want to do it this way
[15:10] <thelionroars> looks like the echo used is actually a shell builtin, rather than /bin/echo. So that might be why the behaviour is different between ubuntu and fedora
[15:10] <obbe> saiarcot895_, thanks
[15:10] <verysoftoiletppr> hi
[15:11] <joel135> lyscer, I don't have any personal experience, but check http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[15:11] <verysoftoiletppr> I've got linux running like a server and whenever power fails, it gets stuck in the booloader screen, waiting for human input. Is it possible to disable this feature or make it select the default option after a while?
[15:11] <verysoftoiletppr> s/linux/ubuntu
[15:12] <joel135> lyscer, also, section "Using a USB drive?" of http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
[15:13] <lyscer> is it possible to install the linux files on a HDD and then just put that hdd in the computer that I want to run linux?
[15:14] <lyscer> I just don't know how drivers and that would work with the completely different hardware
[15:14] <joel135> lyscer, oh you want it installed before you insert the hdd?
[15:14] <lyscer> if possible
[15:15] <joel135> there should be no problem
[15:15] <lyscer> joel, I can install it on a machine with an intel processor and then switch it to a machine with AMD processor no problem?
[15:15] <joel135> just install on one computer, swap hard drives and you're done. be careful not to install any graphics drivers before swpping though
[15:16] <lyscer> I am planning on doing the server version, I was going to do the basics and then finish installing once it is in place
[15:16] <lyscer> I just wasn't sure if it would get all buggered up (like windows would) haha
[15:17] <joel135> lyscer, right I almost forgot  -- You cannot install the 64-bit version and transfer to a 32-bit system
[15:17] <lyscer> gotcha
[15:17] <lyscer> easy enough, thank you!
[15:17] <joel135> :)I have heard that it should work. Good luck!
[15:17] <joel135> welcome :)
[15:18] <genii> lyscer: You could do a minimal install of the correct architecture on a second hd, being sure to also do a grub-install to the mbr of that drive also. Then you can boot it in the other system and from there install whatever other things you need. Probably want to rm and touch the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules    before you put it in the other machine so eth0 will still be eth0 there, etc
[15:19] <joel135> lyscer, oh and you may need to reconfigure the bootloader
[15:19] <lyscer> k
[15:27] <djpro20> Bonjour
[15:30] <A4trent3> Why isn't my computer booting to the disk drive.
[15:31] <DigeratiW> i really like how preview works on the mac, is there something similar for ubuntu
[15:31] <A4trent3> It should work?
[15:31] <A4trent3> Even I
[15:31] <genii> A4trent3: Possibly your bios is set to boot some other device before the floppy
[15:33] <A4trent3> What does that mean?
[15:35] <A4trent3> Does it mean to set USB floppy after disc drive
[15:35] <genii> A4trent3: That you may want to check in the BIOS settings of your computer what the boot order is on your system.
[15:35] <A4trent3> The DVD drive is first
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> A4trent3  usually it's F12 or so to invoke the boot order menu, select USB
[15:36] <donvito> were i can find official irc channel for linux mint?
[15:36] <genii> A4trent3: You want the computer to boot to floppy 3.5" disk forst or some other disk drive? I made the assumption ( perhaps wrongly) that you want the floppy to try first.
[15:37] <genii> !mintsupport | donvito
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> donvito  on linuxmint.com, click Community and then IRC chat
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> genii  spotchat is no longer available, the factoid must e updated
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> be*
[15:37] <A4trent3> Ubuntu is on the EVER
[15:37] <genii> MonkeyDust: Good to know, thanks
[15:37] <A4trent3> Whoops auto correct
[15:38] <A4trent3> Ubuntu is on the DVD r
[15:40] <A4trent3> Anyone?
[15:42] <A4trent3> genii?
[15:42] <holstein> !patients | A4trent3
[15:42] <Eighteens> is there alternative to the sidebar on the left in 13.04, i absolutely hate thing... i went back to 10.04
[15:42] <holstein> !patience | A4trent3
[15:43] <holstein> Eighteens: 10.04 is EOL
[15:43] <genii> A4trent3: The DVD drive is set right now to first boot device, and that is the one you want ?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> A4trent3, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[15:43] <holstein> !nounity | Eighteens
[15:43] <Eighteens> i know that, but i still use it
[15:43] <A4trent3> Yes it is
[15:43] <thelionroars> You could try another DE
[15:43] <holstein> Eighteens: you can use what you like, but 10.04 on the desktop is not supported here, and can be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic ..i suggest xubuntu or xfce
[15:44] <genii> A4trent3: Does the drive you are trying to boot from support the type of DVD disc that you used to put the Ubuntu on?
[15:44] <A4trent3> Yes it does
[15:44] <thelionroars> I suggest kubuntu :), but gnome3 might be closer to ubuntu 10.04
[15:45] <FfoO> Does any one know about WordPress installation the reason why my home page only show the index without any style on the intranet? I've installed everything that was necessary, including LAMP^ and samba. I see everything perfectly but other computers on my network don't, when they type my IP/wordpress address. Please.
[15:45] <holstein> thelionroars: its arguable, but XFCE is likely the most like gnome2, which is 10.04's default DE
[15:45] <genii> A4trent3: When you made the DVD, did you do the equivelent of burning the .iso file as an image onto it, or did you burn the iso file itself onto the DVD?
[15:45] <FfoO> *shows
[15:46] <A4trent3> I wrote the .iso on in ImgBurn
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> A4trent3  do you have casper et al on the DVD, or just the unchanged .iso file?
[15:47] <genii> A4trent3: Right after you burned the DVD, did you eject it and put it back in and then see if there was a file listing?
[15:48] <genii> Meh. Work.
[15:48] <babyswizz> just upgraded my ubuntu 12.10 to 13.04 on my vm guest machine but my mouse does not seem to respond when I click
[15:48] <A4trent3> Actually I should go check it right now then.
[15:48] <wolrah> quick and stupid one, I'm trying to grep a log file for "201" but getting all lines matching due to "2013" in timestamps. any way to not match 2013 while still allowing any other occurance of 201 in the same line to match?
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> wolrah  the people in #bash will know how to exclude characters
[15:49] <FfoO> "Does any one know about WordPress installation the reason why my home page only show the index without any style on the intranet? I've installed everything that was necessary, including LAMP^ and samba. I see everything perfectly but other computers on my network don't, when they type my IP/wordpress address. Please." Any one?
[15:50] <wolrah> monkeydust: thanks
[15:50] <occ> has anyone here installed ubuntu 12.04 on a 1080p laptop and everything(wifi,video,sound,keyboard) worked out the box without any config needed? and if so, what was the brand and model of laptop? and i already have the ubuntu supported hardware page to look at, but it is limited in the models it shows so im asking here
[15:51] <bazhang> FfoO, try #wordpress
[15:51] <occ> i know to avoid sony laptops as they mainly have broadcomm wifi cards which have issues, and apparently samsung laptops can be bricked trying to boot linux in uefi mode so i will avoid samsung too
[15:52] <A4trent3> Do
[15:52] <A4trent3> Fail
[15:53] <wolrah> occ: the Samsung EFI bug is not linux-specific, just more likely to be triggered by Linux due to how the EFI storage space is used.  Those laptops are simply doomed, they can be bricked in Windows as well.
[15:53] <occ> ok. i will avoid samsung at all costs
[15:53] <A4trent3> Should the DVD drive work with no os installed?
[15:53] <Scipio> hi all, I tried so many things but I'm hopeless now so I'm going to see if somebody here can help me. So I took an old Toshiba Portege P3500 out of the closet with Xubuntu 10x installed on it. Worked find and I sayd hmm why not upgrade to Xubuntu 11.x took about 8hours. Installation was a success but I wanted Xubuntu 13.x so decided to do a fresh install since upgrading takes a lot of time. Installation went smooth but after I boot I get the load
[15:54] <Scipio> tried Xubuntu, Ubuntu en Lubuntu
[15:54] <wolrah> A4trent3: yea, it's just a disk drive
[15:54] <wolrah> it won't know how to play DVD movies, but it'll read data just fine
[15:54] <occ> a4trent3, i would assume any computer with an optical/disc drive will work without an os, since it is probably one of the main ways you install an os on it
[15:55] <A4trent3> Logic FTW
[15:55] <Scipio> couldn't even go in terminal so I decided to do, again, a fresh install of Ubuntu console mode. Installed xorg and fluxbox. Did startx and again, black sreen... Did this but it didn't help; https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-trident/+question/95806
[15:55] <occ> but then it seems like computer manufactures these days are retarded, so anything is possible no matter how illogical
[15:55] <Leya> scip?
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | Scipio try this
[15:56] <A4trent3> I'll go check
[15:56] <Jordan_U_> A4trent3: When you look at a listing of the files on the DVD in an OS, what files does it show?
[15:57] <Leya> hello again. my wlan still wont work, whenever i wanna start it, my computer wont react any more. logfile says something about a radio killswitch that disabled my wifi? is that normal? theres also a warning: "<warn> failed to allocate link cache: (-10) Operation not supported"... any ideas what to do?
[15:58] <A4trent3> Well when I checked it had an Ubuntu logo and it said 0  of 695 megs free.
[15:58] <A4trent3> Is that it
[16:00] <A4trent3> It's working!
[16:00] <A4trent3> Yes!
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> !yay | A4trent3
[16:01] <A4trent3> It should work now. The disc didn't verify last time while I was burning it. Then I went on like an idiot.
[16:02] <A4trent3> That d
[16:02] <A4trent3> Whoops
[16:03] <A4trent3> The disc verified this time though. I had to use a disc refinished for the DVD though.
[16:03] <Scipio> hey MonkeyDust, I tried nomodeset, no go :(
[16:04] <Scipio> even pressing ctrl+alt+f2 doesn't bring me back to terminal, screen just stays black
[16:04] <nimesh> ctr-alt-f7
[16:05] <A4trent3> Should I download the updates while installing?
[16:06] <A4trent3> I probably should so I don't  wait an hour to do stuff on it.
[16:06] <FfoO> Thank you, bazhang.
[16:07] <SixtyFold> if you miss the bubble for connecting the wifi during installation is there a key to press to get wifi setup to come back up in the installer?
[16:07] <SixtyFold> nm
[16:07] <SixtyFold> find out
[16:10] <A4trent3> It's working
[16:11] <A4trent3> I was worried it would fail
[16:15] <Gilligan94> Hi guys, I'm partitioning a fresh install. I have a 1TB HDD and one of those mini 24GB SSDs that makes the HDD kinda like a Hybrid, how should I partition this?
[16:16] <auronandace> !partitioning | Gilligan94
[16:18] <Gilligan94> auronandace, that didn't really help. what I want to know is how to effectivly use the mini SSD
[16:19] <joel135> Gilligan94, I would have used the SSD for booting and applications. What do you think about this?
[16:20] <Gilligan94> JoeI135, it's only 24GB would that be big enough?
[16:20] <Gilligan94> maybe just booting?
[16:21] <auronandace> Gilligan94: i use ubuntu with a 10gb partition (for the whole thing)
[16:21] <joel135> Gilligan94, well let me scan my filesystem and I'll report back. If you already have ubuntu on a computer, a great tool for inspecting your filesystem is baobab.
[16:22] <Gilligan94> auronandace, I use a lot more space than that. joeI135 thanks
[16:23] <auronandace> Gilligan94: i use separate storage partitions
[16:23] <auronandace> Gilligan94: ubuntu doesn't take up much space at all really
[16:23] <drasko> Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1-4ubuntu5.9_armhf.deb  404  Not Found
[16:23] <drasko> any idas?
[16:23] <drasko> *ideas
[16:24] <Gilligan94> auronandace, neet I'm not very comfortable with partitioning so I try to stay as close to the standard as I can but I really want to use the mini PCIE SSD this time round
[16:25] <Walex> I have found that since I load a load of packages a 25GiB '/' is more comfortable.
[16:26] <mumpitze1> drasko: get openssl_1.0.1-4ubuntu5.10_armhf.deb instead
[16:27] <Gilligan94> So should I just put /boot on the SSD?
[16:28] <joel135> Gilligan94, baobab reports 2 GB in /var (which is used for caching, so this might be a good candidate). /usr, which contains libraries and applications, uses up 10 GB. /lib: 1.1 GB. /boot: 140 MB. so yes, as boot doesn't use that much space
[16:29] <A4trent3_> Typing this text from Ubuntu. lol
[16:29] <A4trent3_> Thank god its working.
[16:29] <joel135> Gilligan94, but not *just* /boot
[16:29] <Gilligan94> JoeI135 so I could put everything on the SSD except maybe /home?
[16:29] <mumpitze1> Gilligan94: how big is the SSD?
[16:30] <A4trent3_> Anyway thanks for helping this poor dude who bricked his computer. Buh bye
[16:30] <joel135> Gilligan94, sounds good. mumixam 24 GB
[16:30] <Gilligan94> mumpitzel, its a 24GB SSD meant for HDD chaching
[16:30] <A4trent3_> I only got Ubuntu to get rid of Internet Explorer and those damn viruses that are in Windows.
[16:31] <subz3r0> :D @-chrstel-
[16:31] <mumpitze1> Gilligan94: put all on it and make a data partition on the hdd for big stuff like movies, music, etc which you mount inside your home directory or such
[16:32] <joel135> oops i meant mumpitze1
[16:32] <subz3r0> looks like some guys have nothing better to do then attack the net...
[16:32] <Scipio> indeed :(
[16:34] <wheatthin> is that way they get the no buffer space available error?
[16:35] <joel135> Gilligan94, just a detail: I wouldn't mount one of the hdd's partitions directly to /home. Instead, I would mount it to something like /mnt/hdd and add a symlink /home -> /mnt/hdd/home. This allows for more flexibility
[16:35] <Gilligan94> !partitioning
[16:35] <Noiro|Work> I don't see cubeworld in winedb, anyone tried it?
[16:35] <Gilligan94> !home
[16:36] <Pici> Noiro|Work: have you asked the Wine folks? in #winehq ?
[16:36] <Noiro|Work> Ahh ok.
[16:36] <jacta> Evenings!
[16:37] <A4trent3_> I have a question. Which Java version do I download for Ubuntu. Linux RPM install or the Linux install?
[16:37] <Gilligan94> So it looks like it would be easiest if I just use the automated installer to install the whole thing onto the SSD and the move the /home after, is this correct?
[16:37] <theadmin> A4trent3_: Uh, no. You use the Software Center to install stuff on Ubuntu.
[16:37] <theadmin> A4trent3_: Not websites. It works better.
[16:37] <theadmin> A4trent3_: Do you need Java 6 or Java 7?
[16:37] <A4trent3_> Oh.
[16:38] <A4trent3_> Java 7.
[16:38] <theadmin> A4trent3_: Then clicky: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/openjdk-7-jre
[16:38] <A4trent3_> Thanks. I can use Java programs like Minecraft now.
[16:39] <mikubuntu> i have a 2800 page .pdf that i want to convert to dynamic .pdf so that all the links will be live, does anybody know an app that can handle this? (the file size is 6.9 mb)\
[16:43] <A4trent3_> When I tried to execute the Minecraft.jar file to play Minecraft, it failed to execute
[16:43] <away> any error?
[16:43] <SuRfDaeMon_> I have a device that can't ssh sometimes.  Seems like when I'm on WEP encryption it works just fine, WPA makes it hang.  bcmsdh_sdmmc is the driver listed, armhf device.
[16:44] <A4trent3_> The error said "The file '/home/trenten/Downloads/Minecraft.jar' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit."
[16:45] <A4trent3_> Anything I could do. The site said it was executable.
[16:45] <rinzai_> A4trent3_, I never ran Minecraft, but generally JAR files aren't executed directly
[16:45] <rinzai_> you should run it with "java -jar Minecraft.jar"
[16:45] <A4trent3_> Do I need to execute it manually?
[16:45] <SuRfDaeMon_> A4trent3_: the website gives a line of code to launch it
[16:45] <A4trent3_> Derp.
[16:46] <A4trent3_> Well I'm learning.
[16:46] <A4trent3_> How to put the line of code? Through the terminal?
[16:47] <suncica2222> 3
[16:47] <rinzai_> yes
[16:47] <rinzai_> or you can make a script
[16:47] <A4trent3_> How do I make a script?
[16:48] <rinzai_> and use alacarte for instance to add it to the menus/unity whatever
[16:48] <A4trent3_> Uhh, okay?
[16:48] <suncica2222> is there onlinr emote service cite where you can test and try OS via team viewer?
[16:48] <A4trent3_> Put it in laymans terms?
[16:49] <A4trent3_> To google!
[16:49] <Zeitgeist> suncica2222, why dont you just create a vm?
[16:49] <suncica2222> is there online remote desktop service site where you can test and try OS via team viewer?
[16:51] <suncica2222> I have virtual box but it came to my mind that there is such service online to make teamviewer with already setup machines ment just for that
[16:51] <theadmin> A4trent3_: I have a script that'll run Minecraft (and download it if necessary), basically: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5862178/ -- save it in a text file, mark that file executable (properties -> permissions) and double-clickings to play
[16:52] <rinzai_> which service for fixed ip / DNS do you guys recommend to ssh into a home desktop?
[16:52] <suncica2222> like you would do with friend, but online service free or paid to try out OSs and programs
[16:52] <th0r> suncica2222, I have seen archives of .vbox files so you don't have to do an install, but I haven't seen anything like you are looking for
[16:53] <suncica2222> i know all that
[16:53] <suncica2222> so you havent heard for site like that
[16:53] <suncica2222> me neither
[16:53] <Zeitgeist> suncica2222, i dont think so. It would need online access and therefore would be an easily rootable server. But you could just use a prepaid-vserver to test out different os'es. You get them from 1,49€
[16:54] <suncica2222> you mean like for hosting services
[16:54] <Zeitgeist> rinzai_, i am using no-ip.org
[16:55] <Zeitgeist> suncica2222, yes
[16:55] <rinzai_> Zeitgeist, thanks, I'll check it out
[16:56] <SuRfDaeMon_> suncica2222: I think opensuse lets you test drive the image you create using their site.
[16:56] <Zeitgeist> suncica2222, you get ssh access to that server and then can install a desktop environment plus a vnc-server or teamspeak if you want to test it out
[17:00] <suncica2222> So if there is no site like that, would it be good idea to make it, for people to try out apps on all possible OS's before they install them or just for fun... I make machines in virtual box install what they want to try, enable rdp connection, etc... ??? do you think?
[17:01] <suncica2222> with no hacking for them, they use web interface via browser
[17:02] <Zeitgeist> suncica2222, with direct ssh sccess it would be easy to do a privilege escalation if you dont secure it really well. Also you need root privileges to install most apps.
[17:02] <makuseru> Hi, I'm running Kubuntu 13.04 and Im having a problem with dual monitors. When ever I open a new tab in firefox it goes to my second monitor, even though in the display settings i have my main monitor set as the primary output. How can i stop this?
[17:03] <Zeitgeist> suncica2222, whats the point of the service if you provide a webinterface that doesent present the full os? If you really want to do this you have to put a lot of thinking into it
[17:03] <skyroveR1> Hey guys, I'm using a command that uses awk, sed and cat at the same time, and every single time they are executed, the PID increases, say for example, from 3 to 6 and 6 to 9 and so on, is there a way to keep these tiny commands running, while at the same time, eliminate the need to make new PIDs?
[17:04] <suncica2222> Im aware, it could be all automated and expected, Ill just restore snapshot in vb
[17:05] <Zeitgeist> suncica2222, if you are sure do it, there is no better way than trying :-D
[17:06] <suncica2222> the point is they have fun, I  charge them few $
[17:08] <Zeitgeist> Just be sure your servers are secure, otherwise they will be used as spam-boxes, ftp for illegal filesharing or proxies. It would be your legal problem then
[17:09] <suncica2222> they cant do anything, just chose and test program they select via webinterface
[17:11] <Zeitgeist> if your servers get rooted everything is possible :-P Just do it, i would an audit and extended testdrive at instanst
[17:11] <Zeitgeist> *instant
[17:11] <lflucas> hi, I'm trying to setup nfs_v4 between two ubuntu 12.04 computers. But I'm not able to get automatic idmap working, since the user IDs are different in both machines.
[17:11] <lflucas> It is idmap working on ubuntu?
[17:12] <jjavaholic> no indicator-datetime menuitem calenders
[17:12] <dhq> (dhq) Hey guys . I went into settings and chose a very high resolution which my tv doesn't support. How do I revert back now the only thing my tv shows is node not supported
[17:16] <hypoon> hi guys, I've got a 12.04 system that's not starting lightdm on its own at boot. I can start it manually using "service lightdm start" and it works fine, but why isn't it starting automatically?
[17:17] <DriedOrange> test
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> hypoon, Any other desktops installed, in other words a little history.
[17:17] <PeterPan> DriedOrange:  It's working. :)
[17:18] <lflucas> hi, I'm trying to setup nfs_v4 between two compturers ubuntu 12.04. But I'm not able to get automatic idmap working, since the user IDs are different in both machines. Anybody tried it before?
[17:18] <hypoon> This machine has been updated many times. It started as a 9.04, updated to 9.10, then to 10.04, then stayed there until 12.04. I noticed that gdm is still available, and was manually starting that at first (which also worked)
[17:19] <pc-moon> i have nvidia 610gt i done update and i installed software like tutorial in ubuntufurom , but now not work login , when system login to terminal full screen
[17:19] <endless> ls
[17:19] <hypoon> No KDE, LXDE, XFCE, or anything like that though
[17:19] <pc-moon> no
[17:19] <Zeitgeist> pc-moon:  kernel-headers installed?
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> hypoon, When I have added desktops and lightdm is added I was given a default choice you may not have gotten that popup, just a gues I would investigate that on the web.
[17:20] <hypoon> hm, ok
[17:20] <pc-moon> i dont know about kernal-headers
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> hypoon, YOu can switch between the two I just forget how, someone may have the answers you need, I just suggest the web for speed on an answer. ;)
[17:21] <Zeitgeist> pc-moon:  you need them while installing the proprietary nvidia driver, cause it needs to compile a kernel module
[17:22] <camara> hello
[17:22] <Zeitgeist> so install kenerl-headers, remove nvidia driver and reinstall it
[17:22] <pc-moon> ok i'll now
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> hypoon, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/how-to-switch-between-gdm-lightdm-or.html I'm just guessing here as I commented on before.
[17:22] <camara> how do I know if my drivers are installed?
[17:23] <hypoon> wilee-nilee: thanks, I'm trying that now
[17:23] <woodt> skyroveR1: The PID incrementing is expected behavior.  You'll need to code the equivalent functionality in something like perl or python to avoid the PID incrementing.
[17:25] <SixtyFold> has anyone been experiencing a lot of crashing with 13.04 primarily updater and bleachbit?
[17:26] <lflucas> hi, I'm trying to setup nfs_v4 between two computers ubuntu 12.04. But I'm not able to get automatic idmap working, since the user IDs are different in both machines. Is it a bug?
[17:28] <skyroveR1> woodt: ok, got any links for doing that?
[17:31] <lflucas> What is the solution to do the mapping between the same users using different UIDs on NFSv4?
[17:33] <SuRfDaeMon_> I have a device that can't ssh sometimes.  Seems like when I'm on WEP encryption it works just fine, WPA makes it hang.  bcmsdh_sdmmc is the driver listed, armhf device. On one of the rare times that i can access it.
[17:34] <servvs> how can i install unity3d on linux?
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> servvs, What release do you have and desktop as of now?
[17:39] <GunArm> i read to never assemble a mdadm array from a virtual machine, is it safe to connect to an nfs share of a mdadm array from a virtual machine?
[17:40] <user1_> i need a usb modem manager which houses a sim from which i can call and send and recieve messages just like phone.
[17:41] <lflucas> What is the solution to do the mapping between the same users using different UIDs on NFSv4?
[17:41] <Wonder3r> Hoping (i know i wont get it, but I can hope) ubuntu vs linux mint, which is better for somene wanting to learn linux?
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> Wonder3r, Either will work, I would use ubuntu personally, on the irc there is 1577 people on this channel the mint has like around 100, mint is a fork of ubuntu, however thos is off topic stuff.
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> this*
[17:44] <Wonder3r> off topic kinda sucks around these parts lol, it's a linux question that has to do with ubuntu ya know? :P
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> Wonder3r, One thing you will figure out about linux is that overall they are all the same in major ways with slight differentials.
[17:47] <Wonder3r> thank you wilee-nilee. someone is suggesting me to ArchLinux
[17:47] <mic1980> hi folks
[17:48] <kingbeast> Wonder3r, do you know anything about how to use the terminal?
[17:48] <Wonder3r> kingbeast, yes, a little bit
[17:48] <mic1980> is there a way of seeing all my hard drives in the home folder of 12.04
[17:49] <mic1980> without using terminal
[17:49] <kingbeast> Wonder3r, depends on how much a little bit is whether you want to try Arch
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> Wonder3r, Arch has excellent wiki's, it has its own difficulties, but hardly measurable once you have a basic understanding of linux.
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> mic1980, Have you added any in fstab to automount?
[17:51] <mic1980> i have no idea of the terminolgy for linux.
[17:51] <kingbeast> Arch is measurable, I wouldn't suggest it unless you really know what you are doing though. When you go cutting edge the way Arch is you need to know how to fix things here and there
[17:51] <mic1980> is it using terminal
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> mic1980, Is this a partitioned install or a wubi install from windows?
[17:51] <wov> Good evening to everyone.
[17:52] <mic1980> no i used the disk manager from desktop
[17:52] <mic1980> i formatted the drive and claims is mounted
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> mic1980, formatted with the disk manager in windows? was this then installed from windows?
[17:53] <mic1980> sorry no from 12.04
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> mic1980, In home is a left panel do you see them there?
[17:53] <mic1980> using guid as the partition
[17:54] <mic1980> nope
[17:54] <mic1980> did some reading on net, but all very confusing lol
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> mic1980, "using guid as the partition" Can you explain what you mean?
[17:55] <kingbeast> mic1980, have you restarted your computer since you installed?
[17:55] <mic1980> well when partitioning the option is to set as primary boot drive next option is guid last option is for apple
[17:55] <mic1980> yes
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> mic1980, Can you run in the ubuntu terminal sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the info.
[17:55] <mic1980> i dont even know how to get to terminal hehehe
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> mic1980, This is an apple computer? terminal is in the menu and ctrl-alt-t
[17:56] <kingbeast> mic1980, press CTRL+ATL+T
[17:56] <mic1980> thanks, no its standard pc
[17:57] <servvs> wilee-nilee, I have 13.04 but want to install the web player. From what I am reading it doesn't seem to be possible right now though
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> mic1980, so lets see a pastebin of sudo fdisk -l it will help at least me.
[17:58] <kingbeast> servvs, what do you mean by web player?
[17:58] <user1_> i need a usb modem manager which houses a sim from which i can call and send and recieve messages just like phone.
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> servvs, What release do you have and desktop as of now? was my question.
[17:59] <mic1980> in terminal i type sudo fdisk -1 and all it brings up is options for fdisk
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> servvs, YOU have the integrated 2d 3d they are not separated, it depends on what the computer can handle
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> mic1980, That is a small L not 1
[17:59] <mic1980> lol sorry
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> ;) hard to tell I know
[18:00] <jjavaholic> the contents of my fdisk -l: http://pastebin.com/6MFAFRAV my 250GB external Drive doesn't show up here now what?
[18:01] <bekks> jjavaholic: pastebin "dmesg" please, after pluggging your external disk off, wait 10s, and plug it back in.
[18:02] <servvs> wilee-nilee, I have ubuntu 13.04 that is my desktop OS. I have downloaded unity 4 web player and was wondeirng if there is a way to make it work
[18:02] <mikubuntu> i have a 2800 page .pdf that i want to convert to dynamic .pdf so that all the links will be live, does anybody know an app that can handle this? (the file size is 6.9 mb)
[18:02] <genii> usb-storage doesn't always get loaded for some reason.
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> servvs, I don't see a linux version, so I assume wine or playonlinux.
[18:04] <bekks> mikubuntu: Whats a "dynamic" pdf, and how does a pdf file care about wether some limk in the pdf actually points to an reachable URI?
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | mic1980 Put that info here for the channel.
[18:05] <mikubuntu> bekks, i thought i understood that a dynamic .pdf is one that makes readable urls into hyperlinks, instead of rendering as simple text
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> mic1980, I don't do PM's or take info that way. Pastebin it.
[18:06] <jago25_98> How to I install ffpeg with apt-get on a server without following the x11 dependancies?
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> mic1980, So the protocol is to ask before any out of channel contact.
[18:07] <mic1980> what info do you need, tried to send copy of info from terminal in document via xchat but could not get it to you
[18:07] <mic1980> what info do you need
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> mic1980, Copy and paste tha info to a pastebin and pot the url.
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> post the url
[18:08] <jjavaholic> If you find anything of interest in my dmesg also that would be useful: http://pastebin.com/PbfdXpzm
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> mic1980, I after having to many weird interactions keep all my contact within the channel, nothing personal. ;)
[18:09] <bekks> jjavaholic: You are heavily getting machine check exceptions. Analyze and fix them before.
[18:10] <jjavaholic> it is a warm Summer
[18:10] <mic1980> no worrys however im running xp to this chat so had to copy and paste info to document then copy it to usb drive then was going to send it to you. are you looking for specific info from the fdisk i can just write it down and transpose it here
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> jjavaholic, Balmy in the pacific NW.
[18:10] <bekks> jjavaholic: Did you oplug off your external disk, wait 10s, plug it back in, wait 10s and pastebin? :)
[18:11] <jjavaholic> yes
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> mic1980, This ubuntu install on another computer?
[18:11] <mic1980> incidentally, my primary drive does not show up in devices either, in fact the only time devices has shown is when i plug in the usb drive
[18:12] <mic1980> ya, trying to learn a little at a time about linux from scratch
[18:12] <mic1980> want to see what lots of people are talking about lol
[18:13] <bekks> jjavaholic: There is no sign of plugging/unplugging in dmesg. Does any other device successfully work on that specific USB port?
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> mic1980, Sure, generally if you want help though you want to be on the irc from that OS to make things more fluid and easy.
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> if you can
[18:13] <jjavaholic> It takes up two USB ports
[18:14] <mic1980> your right, but much more convenient to use laptop rather than sit at desktop.
[18:14] <SuRfDaeMon_> mic1980: synergy is working wonderfully for me
[18:14] <jjavaholic> but 4GB pendrive you can see in fdisk -l has been on at least one of not both ports.
[18:14] <Pici> mic1980: Are you looking for Ubuntu support or not?
[18:15] <mic1980> that was friendly
[18:15] <jjavaholic> there is a flashing LED light on external  drive.
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> mic1980, The only thing additional I will say now is that just to get a little info we have posted way more times then needed, this makes it hard for both of us to follow this when we are still just probing on my part at least to confirm some basic info.
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> to get to an answer to your basic question
[18:17] <mic1980> i understand. next time i log on i will be sure to at the machine involved. thanks for your help regardless
[18:17] <mojtaba> hi
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> on occasion
[18:18] <mojtaba> Does anybody know what is this? I have got this in private message from this channel: "12:30:21 PM - christel: [Global Notice] As you may have noticed we appear to have trotted over the grumpy troll's bridge -- the network is currently being attacked and as a result we're temporarily without services as we work to get a working copy of the db fired up elsewhere. Apologies for the inconvenience."
[18:19] <bazhang> mojtaba, ask in #freenode
[18:19] <mojtaba> bazhang: ok, thanks
[18:20] <jjavaholic> If it isn't showing up in dmesg what can that mean?
[18:21] <lllnicg> what is the basic code to move to the next slide in openoffice impress?
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> lllnicg, What release are you running libreoffice is the default?
[18:22] <Igramul> Hi, how can I permanently change the file permissions/ownership of device files in /dev/...?
[18:23] <BluesKaj> moj there have DOS attacks going on all da yagainst chanserv
[18:23] <wheatthin> Igramul, you don't, you permanently change the permissions to the mountpoint
[18:23] <lllnicg> wilee-nilee, does it matter they both are similar right?
[18:23] <BluesKaj> da=day
[18:23] <BluesKaj> mojtaba,^
[18:24] <Igramul> wheatthin: a program/user needs access to /dev/dvb/* - the permissions get reset on every reboot.
[18:24] <rosco_y> I have to run unity-tweak-tool everytime I restart my computer to enable hot corners, does anyone know how to make these settings more permanent?
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> lllnicg, Sure to some extent, but one is stock so supported the other 3rd party and not, just a heads up does not mean there will be no help. But not answering questions makes things harder.
[18:24] <wheatthin> Igramul, so add yourself to the group
[18:25] <V8Energy> I want to setup an smtp server on my ubuntu machine, so I'd be able to send out emails from ubuntu. do I need anything special for that? or do I simply setup a postfix and i should be able to send email to anyone?
[18:25] <Igramul> wheatthin: the user/group is root.root
[18:25] <rosco_y> V8Energy: are you just forwarding your emails to an isp?
[18:26] <Igramul> adding someone to the root group does not seem very brilliant
[18:26] <rosco_y> or are you receiving emails on your machine as well
[18:26] <V8Energy> rosco_y: is there a way to send it directly? or does it have to be forwarded via another smtp server (such as gmail's smtp or isp's smtp)?
[18:28] <bill> I have a problem that when I install and application it does not show up in the applications section
[18:29] <rosco_y> V8Energy: I'm not sure.   I was wanting to send email to my gmail account, and it was recommended to me that I look into nullclient.  You may be in the same position I was....(I was asking similar questions)
[18:29] <wheatthin> Igramul, howa bout using plugdev
[18:29] <ubuntu83892> hi! I am trying to mount a windows partition that is stuck in hybirnation mode (the hard drive is fried). how can I force mount /dev/sda2/ so I can retrieve my files? Thanks
[18:29] <BlueSquirrel> bill, not all applications do, some you call thru the command line
[18:29] <rosco_y> I never did setup nullclient tho, so I don't know much about it
[18:30] <V8Energy> rosco_y: I see. Let's hope we find an answer
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu83892, I would ask in ##windows as far as this context in order to make sure you get that data.
[18:31] <rosco_y> V8Energy: I was trying to setup sendmail when I started asking questions.  I never finished either method
[18:31] <mic__> k im logged in from the linux machine. now how do you folks want the fdisk info pasted here. please be sure to provide step by step as dont want to frustrate anyone
[18:31] <ubuntu83892> will do wilee-nilee
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> !oastebin | mic__
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin
[18:33] <DigeratiW> whats the preferred theme everyone using
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> !polls | DigeratiW
[18:34] <wheatthin> DigeratiW, that's a personal preferrences
[18:34] <Tyler> Hello, My name is tyler, I am completely new to ubuntu. my computer was working fine when I installed ubuntu 2 days ago and was working fine last night, but when I got up and tried to start up my computer today, I keep getting frozen on the grub screen and it doesn't matter how long it sits there, it will not unfreeze
[18:34] <Tyler> can anyone offer any advice?
[18:34] <ikonia> Tyler: do you get a grub menu ?
[18:35] <Tyler> I can if I press e before grub loads up
[18:35] <ikonia> Tyler: if you don't touch anything do you get a grub menu, yes/no
[18:36] <Tyler> Iknoia: no. It just loads up the splash screen of ubuntu and has a little countdown timer that freezes
[18:36] <ikonia> Tyler: right - so it's not hanging on the grub screen as you said
[18:37] <mic__> k ive pasted all info at paste.ubuntu now what do i do
[18:37] <wheatthin> sounds to me, like a bad initramfs
[18:38] <ikonia> Tyler: I would suggest pressing "e" as you have said you can do and remove the "splash" option from the boot line and see if you get more info
[18:39] <Tyler> okay, afk while I try that
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> mic__, Post the url to it.
[18:39] <mic__> i dont know how to do that
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> mic__, Copy and paste the web address in the browser of that page to the channel.
[18:41] <mic__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5862491/
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> mic__, So you wanted to see other discs or partitions, you just have ubuntu, any plugged externals would show in the left panel of home.
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> mic__, Was this a desktop with W8 at one time?
[18:43] <mic__> yes correct, if i plug in a usb data stick it shows up
[18:43] <ax562> question: does firefox22 exist for arm based ubuntu systems?
[18:44] <mic__> but hard drives neither primary nor 2nd physical drive show up
[18:44] <ax562> or any other recent firefox releases?
[18:44] <mic__> however i can access my file system via home icon
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> mic__, Does the computer have more than one HD?
[18:44] <mic__> never
[18:45] <mic__> possible with win 7 experimentally for a few hours
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> mic__, I;m not understanding what the problem is.
[18:45] <mic__> yes two physical hard drives both identical in size and model number 80 gb each
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> mic__, Where?
[18:46] <Tyler> Ikonia: how do I remove the splash option? I have a screen with several different boot options. when ever I try anything, it does some weird stuff on the tv the gives me a black screen and a command line
[18:46] <mic__> sorry dont understand
[18:46] <wheatthin> mic__, when you format them, try labling them differently
[18:46] <mic__> could do, hang on
[18:46] <trism> ax562: it builds for armhf
[18:46] <JustM0Bin> hey guys i just reinstalled 12.04 LTS and i have networking enabled but it its not letting me select wired or wireless networks
[18:46] <tata> My kids cant play online games on older pentium and Ubuntu 10.4, why? what is wrong?
[18:46] <ikonia> Tyler: there should be a splash option
[18:47] <ax562> @trism can you elaborate?
[18:47] <chapman> Hello there, fine win32-hating gentlemen.
[18:47] <chapman> Today, we shall talk about the wonderful teachings of Linus Torvalds.
[18:47] <ikonia> tata: your description of th eproblem is wrong
[18:47] <ikonia> tata: how about giving a proper explination of the problem
[18:47] <chapman> ikonia, sit down, sir. your arse must be hurting.
[18:47] <ax562> I'm runniing an arm based version but it is outdated and trying to upgrade
[18:47] <GunArm> i'm trying to mount an nfs share at home on a virtual machine at work, and it's timing out.  can anyone help me troubleshoot it? i nfs to that machine from other machines at home, can ssh from work, have the external IP of my work connection added to /etc/exports with the same format as the one that works locally at home, restarted nfs-kernel-server ran exportfs -r
[18:47] <chapman> so yes ikonia, how can I lose my virginity thru the terminal?
[18:48] <ikonia> chapman: stop that now please
[18:48] <ikonia> chapman: there is no need for it
[18:48] <chapman> ikonia, I guess you'll have to bring your mother to my house then.
[18:48] <Igramul> Where in the startup happens the setting of permissions in /dev. My system uses devtmpfs.
[18:48] <chapman> I shall purify her with my mutant cock.
[18:48] <mic__> might have found problem brb
[18:48] <ikonia> chapman: please stop
[18:48] <chapman> Why should I stop, ikonia?
[18:48] <chapman> Are you cursed?
[18:48] <chapman> but anyways
[18:48] <chapman> how can i mount a dir
[18:48] <wheatthin> chapman, you're looking to get banned, knock it off
[18:49] <chapman> wheattin, are you an faithful operator?
[18:49] <wheatthin> no, but pici is
[18:49] <ikonia> chapman: I am - please stop,
[18:49] <wheatthin> now stop
[18:49] <chapman> I shall stop, sorry <3
[18:49] <neekz0r> nice to know irc still has trolls
[18:49] <chapman> I shall be polite.
[18:49] <chapman> I apologize.
[18:49] <chapman> I came here to help people.
[18:49] <JustM0Bin> sooo can someone help me pleaseee
[18:50] <tata> ok, its today installed Ubuntu 10.4 and I think something missed, I add only a flash player 11.2 adobe, but nothing else, when I click on game, on line nothing happend?
[18:50] <deadweasel> ha
[18:50] <deadweasel> JustM0Bin: what's the problem?
[18:50] <GunArm> tata why did you install such an old version of ubuntu?
[18:50] <GunArm> thats no longer supported
[18:50] <mic__> k found problem and corrected. however machine still does not shows primary drive in devices
[18:50] <tata> because it is old pentium 3
[18:51] <wheatthin> mic__, was it the labling?
[18:51] <Igramul> ikonia: ok - this is off-topic, but where is the advantage of forcing someone to leave vs. /kick ?
[18:51] <k1l> tata: go with 12.04 and a lightweight flavour light lubuntu
[18:51] <ikonia> Igramul: horses for courses
[18:51] <wheatthin> Igramul, it gives them the chance to change their attitude
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> tata, 10.04 is end of life and not supported have you tried like 12.04 lubuntu?
[18:51] <TheSov> i have a small problem, when i mount an iscsi disk on my machine, it just starts transmitting 12 megabits of data consistently to the iscsi source. when i umount it, it stops any ideas whats happening?
[18:51] <mic__> no being the idiot i am at times, i did not partition drive b. once partitioned it showed up in the devices tab
[18:51] <mic__> but drive 1 does not yet show up
[18:51] <JustM0Bin> deadweasel i reinstalled 12.04 LTS and i have networking enabled but it wone let me click on wired or wireless network options
[18:52] <tata> lubuntu 12.4 no
[18:52] <Igramul> wheatthin: Isn't that the same as /kick without /ban. Well, never mind...
[18:52] <tata> I didnt try
[18:52] <wheatthin> mic__, did you parititon that one too?
[18:52] <Tyler> ikonia: all I'm getting is a screen with the option to boot ubuntu with linux, boot ubuntu with linux recovery mode, previous linux versions, and 2 memory test options
[18:52] <ikonia> Tyler: ok, so if you press "E" at that time, you get to edit those lines
[18:52] <ikonia> Tyler: you can then remove the "splash" option,
[18:52] <k1l> tata: 10.04 lost support for the desktop. so there is not much hope in fix issues and get (security) updates
[18:52] <mic__> its running 12.04 right now lol
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> tata, You might try, although not sure if you may need to netload it with a mini iso due to the age of the computer and kernels (pae).
[18:53] <tata> but, Ubuntu 10 .4 from last year and modern pentium work very good
[18:53] <ikonia> tata: keep in mind - flash is dead on linux from adobe's point of view
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> tata, Sure, but only the srver is supported as of now here.
[18:53] <Igramul> The documentation of devtmpfs says, everything in /dev gets owned by root. Can someone tell me where the final permissions are configured?
[18:54] <mic__> labelling is a bit confusing
[18:54] <deadweasel> JustM0Bin: try the command line vwersoin
[18:54] <wheatthin> Igramul, did you add yourself to plugdev?
[18:54] <deadweasel> JustM0Bin: nmcli con up wlan0
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> mic__, It can be strange at first to run linux, I was lucky I started there.
[18:54] <Igramul> wheatthin: no, the device files I want to access are not owned by plugdev.
[18:54] <mic__> ive gone to disk untility and default for primary is swap. obliviously this is not the drive i want to label
[18:54] <tata> so, You told to install Lubuntu 12.4 on old pent 3, is it corect?
[18:55] <gilligan> Hello, is there an elementary OS irc channel?
[18:55] <wheatthin> Igramul, they are operated by them..
[18:55] <wheatthin> it's what the groups is there fore
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> gilligan, #elementary
[18:55] <Tyler> ikonia: the screen that I'm looking at now has boot options then out to the right of one line it as "quiet splash $vt_handoff" do I delete that whole section, the whole line, or just the word splash?
[18:55] <BluesKaj> elementary OS , gilligan ?
[18:55] <ikonia> Tyler: splash
[18:55] <wheatthin> -e
[18:56] <Igramul> gilligan: OS theory, like in A. Tannenbaum's "Operating System"? I am afraid, there isn't.
[18:56] <mic__> k just figured it out
[18:56] <theseb> how customize unity's emacs launcher to add switch to adjust window size?
[18:56] <mic__> got labels in place now, however, primary extended drive still not showing up in devices, any suggestions
[18:56] <JustM0Bin_> sorry deadweasel my internet is fucked but i tried that and it said command not found
[18:57] <wheatthin> !language
[18:57] <JustM0Bin_> my bad
[18:57] <gilligan> wilee-nilee: thanks
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> gilligan, No prob.
[18:57] <Erik____> Hello, can someone help me with a networking problem please?
[18:57] <Igramul> wheatthin: what do you mean by "operated by them"?
[18:57] <wheatthin> !plugdev
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> Erik____, Only if you tell the channel your problem.
[18:58] <Tyler> iknoia: I deleted splash then pressed f10 to boot. The screen did some weird graphical things and now I have a black screen and a command line. Is this what is supposed to be happening? if so, what do I do now?
[18:58] <deadweasel> JustM0Bin: sudo apt-get install nmcli
[18:58] <deadweasel> then try.
[18:58] <ikonia> Tyler: that sounds like you booted recovery mode, rather than standard
[18:58] <deadweasel> i forgot that's not part of the distro
[18:58] <Erik____> I have 2 network cards, one is incomming internet, otherone is set 'shared to other computers'. Now I'd like to connect with Jack Adio to a Master computer on the network
[18:59] <deadweasel> JustM0Bin: I've found the network manager applet pretty unstable, so I just use command line when needed.
[18:59] <JustM0Bin_> deadweasel: it said unable to locate package nmcli
[18:59] <Erik____> Now somehow I can not get that working
[18:59] <JustM0Bin_> im trying to connect wirelessly
[18:59] <JustM0Bin_> just so you know
[18:59] <wheatthin> Igramul, just add yourself to plugdev and find out.
[19:00] <Tyler> ikonia: how do I boot in standard? I pressed "e" to edit the boot options with the standard option highlighted then when it gave me the code, I erased splash the pressed f10?
[19:00] <deadweasel> JustM0Bin_: yup, if we can get nmcli installed it should be no problem.  let me find that package.
[19:00] <ikonia> Tyler: remove splash, then press "enter" then press "b"
[19:01] <mic__> any suggestions for getting my primary drive to show up in the devices tab
[19:01] <wheatthin> mic__, it shoudld come up as "Computer"
[19:02] <mic__> so if i understand 12.04 then primaries dont show up in devices tab just in the home folder as computer, is this correct
[19:02] <Erik____> wilee-nilee, do you have any idea?
[19:03] <deadweasel> Anyone know if NMCLI is included in the Network Manager package in ubuntu?
[19:03] <deadweasel> i thought it was from 10.10 up?
[19:03] <wheatthin> mic__, or it'll say "Filesystem"
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> Erik____, Not really I have not messed with networking. If you can describe what you have done you may get help if it is a recognizable problem you are stuck at.
[19:03] <llutz>  /msg ubottu find bin/nmcli
[19:03] <mic__> understood, but absolutely will not show up in devices via standard setup
[19:04] <wheatthin> and it's just labled home, cause that's the default option
[19:04] <wheatthin> is to show your home folder
[19:04] <mic__> so if i wish to copy a file to root directory of the primary, i must choose the default options of computer
[19:04] <llutz> deadweasel: " /msg ubottu find bin/nmcli" says yes
[19:04] <deadweasel> JustM0Bin_: I forget how to get that package, I think mine came with network manager....  I can't be sure.
[19:04] <deadweasel> Oh
[19:05] <mic__> never mind i think i got it
[19:05] <deadweasel> JustM0Bin_, llutz says you have it if you installed ubuntu.
[19:05] <mic__> duh
[19:05] <mic__> duh me
[19:05] <Tyler> ikonia: okay, after doing that, I'm still on the edit boot optons screen. the enter key dropped "$vt_handoff" down one line then pressing "b" put a "b" before the "$vt_handoff". is this where I'm supposed to be?
[19:05] <mic__> thanks folks youve all been a big help and ive learned again something new for the day. like to try and learn something new daily
[19:05] <Erik____> wilee-nilee, I used to have standard networking settings and everything worked fine. But now I use a 1 networking card to get internet directly to my pc and a 2nd one for my local network.
[19:06] <mic__> gotta run thanks again
[19:06] <lmat> I'm wanting to transfer a few users from computer a to computer b.
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> Erik____, I can only help as far as I have without googling it.
[19:06] <ikonia> Tyler: I ddn't say "put b" in the line
[19:06] <lmat> I see that I need to copy over the appropriate entries from passwd and group and shadow, is there anything else I should worry about?
[19:06] <lmat> (none of them have home directories)
[19:06] <Erik____> wilee-nilee, I have read about settings a 'multicast address' for Netjack, but  I don't know how to do that
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> Erik____, You want to address the channel I can't really help any more than I have, if you post to me it can look for quick glances you are being helped.
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> I would if I could. ;)
[19:08] <Erik____> wilee-nilee, is there somewhere a good networking channel for these sorts of questions?
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> not sure
[19:09] <Erik____> wilee-nilee, thanks a lot for helping
[19:09] <Tyler> Ikonia: that's just what it did i removed splash, pressed enter, then pressed b. it never changed me off of the boot options line. I'm using 12.04 if that helps at all, sorry I didn't include that earlier
[19:09] <ikonia> Tyler: I don't undersand what you're actually saying,
[19:09] <GunArm> can someone help me troubleshoot why I can't mount an NFS share?
[19:09] <salt_> account security while using irc, which is better?  1. login on with a standard account, pass word protected and primitions set to 7,0,0. 2. login on with a guest account were everything will be deleted on exit.   or are there more options?
[19:09] <ikonia> Tyler: when you press "b" it should boot the line you are on
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> Erik____, No prob, I have two things I focus on, can I actually help, and will my help brick you.
[19:10] <ikonia> salt_: what ?
[19:10] <Tyler> ikonia: nope, from what I can tell it just placed a "b" in the line
[19:11] <ikonia> Tyler: then you've not hit "enter" to exit out of edit mode
[19:11] <Erik____> wilee-nilee, :)
[19:14] <Tyler> ikonia: when I press enter, it just acts like enter would act on a word program, it drops everything, right of the cursor, down one line. at the bottom of the screen there are some options like press f10 to boot or ctrl-c to boot or press esc to discard changes and return to boot menu.
[19:14] <ikonia> Tyler: try escape
[19:16] <otak> Tyler: ctrl-x to boot with the edited commands
[19:17] <ikonia> thank you otak
[19:18] <Tyler> ikonia: when I press escape then b nothing happens. When I press escape then enter it just goes back to the command line on a black screen
[19:19] <ikonia> Tyler: check what otak said
[19:19] <nasir> how can i increase volume in gmusicbrowser?
[19:19] <Tyler> otak: when I press ctrl-x it does some weird graphical stuff then I get a black screen with a command line on it?
[19:20] <ikonia> Tyler: then you are not booting the standard mode, you are booting recovery mode
[19:20] <recon_lap> hi, anyone know of a way to boot to a cli using the mini live cd?
[19:20] <ikonia> recon_lap: there is no mini linvecd
[19:20] <Sach> How do I install an HP scanner to work in Ubuntu 12.04?
[19:21] <ikonia> !scanner | salt_
[19:21] <ikonia> oops
[19:21] <ikonia> !scanner | Sach
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> nasir, Is there a help tab with a manual?
[19:21] <recon_lap> ok, the MinimalCD then
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> nasir, I see a volume applet here. http://gmusicbrowser.org/guide.html
[19:22] <petey> are there any helpful intro to c++ channels? i cant get this stupid loop working properly
[19:22] <Tyler> ikonia: okay, well it seems to be, that no matter what I do, it ends up in recovery mode so it there any way to do anything from the command line it gives me?
[19:22] <ikonia> petey: try the ##c++ channel
[19:22] <ikonia> Tyler: what what happens when it boots up
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> nasir, and "You can change the volume by using the mouse wheel almost anywhere on the window"
[19:22] <shafox> hi what is the user group for /tmp dir ??
[19:22] <ikonia> Tyler: see if there are any warnings / errors
[19:22] <ikonia> shafox: there isn't a group
[19:23] <recon_lap> so, anyone know how to get https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD to boot to a cli?
[19:23] <jrr> my ubuntu seems to have an identity crisis - it thinks it's a linaro distribution
[19:23] <jrr> how might I have done that?
[19:23] <ikonia> jrr: just explain the problem properly
[19:23] <shafox> ikonia: it says in mine root:root
[19:23] <shafox> shouldnt it say user:user?
[19:23] <jrr> cat /etc/lsb-release
[19:23] <jrr> DISTRIB_ID=Linaro
[19:23] <ikonia> shafox: ooh, yes, root:root owns it
[19:23] <ikonia> shafox: no
[19:23] <jrr> also the bootloader menu says Linaro now
[19:24] <ikonia> jrr: either a.) you've installed the wrong distro b.) you've pointed it at different repos and updated the packages
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> jrr, You add any repos?
[19:24] <Daughain> Does q2.04 use x11 instead of dwindles?
[19:24] <k1l> jrr: what version of ubuntu are you running? what did you do before that appears?
[19:24] <Sach> ikonia: thanks!
[19:24] <Daughain> Xwindows
[19:24] <ikonia> Daughain: does what ?
[19:24] <shafox> ikonia, ok
[19:24] <jrr> I don't have any third-party sources atm
[19:24] <jrr> I believe this was originally installed at 12.04
[19:25] <petey> no luck with ##c++ , no one in there - am idoing something wrong>
[19:25] <ikonia> jrr: I suspect you are wrong
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> jrr, Pastebin cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:25] <iceroot> what is the packagename of the tool for setting up the displays? (dual view, mirror mode, resolution and so on) used in unity
[19:25] <ikonia> petey: there are many people in there - try asking in #freenode for how to search for channels
[19:25] <Daughain> ikonia: sorry, does 12.04 use xwindows still?
[19:25] <ikonia> Daughain: yes
[19:25] <recon_lap> petey: is it a simple loop, if so just paste bit it and i'll see if i can spot the issue
[19:25] <Daughain> How do I reboot xwindows from cli?
[19:25] <jrr> wilee-nilee: http://pastie.org/8128972
[19:26] <ikonia> recon_lap: please take it to private message if you want to help him write C
[19:26] <ikonia> Daughain: "sudo reboot"
[19:26] <jrr> based on commented cd-rom sources, I revise my hypothesis: I believe this was originally installed as 12.10 =]
[19:26] <Tyler> ikonia: when I press the power button to turn it on, a purple screen appears with the word ubuntu. there are 5 white dots underneath the word ubuntu which turn orange from left to right, then they change back to white in the same fashion. After they all are white again, they all flash orange and that's where the system freezes. As far as I can tell there are no warnings or errors
[19:26] <ikonia> Tyler: yes, so edit it, remove splash and boot, see if there are any errors/warnings ?
[19:27] <Daughain> ikonia: I don't want to reboot the whole system, just a reboot of xwindows to see if that's where my problem is.
[19:27] <k1l> jrr, Pastebin "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[19:27] <ikonia> !nozap | Daughain
[19:27] <jrr> k1l: ah!
[19:27] <Daughain> ikonia: ???
[19:27] <jrr> everything that used to be a file is now a service
[19:27] <genii> Daughain: Assuming you're using the standard login system... sudo service lightdm restart
[19:28] <jrr> I do in fact have a linaro thing in there
[19:28] <Daughain> genii: thanks.
[19:28] <k1l> jrr: yes, that is where the 3rd. party repos go nowadays
[19:28] <jrr> new question: can dpkg -l tell me which source a given installed package came from?
[19:29] <K1rk> I'm trying to install bcmwl-kernel-source on a laptop and I'm getting an error when it tries to compile the DKMS module.
[19:29] <Tyler> ikonia: when I edit the boot line, to remove splash, then I press ctrl-x to boot with edits, the screen flashes a black screen with white vertical lines then a lot of code runs very very quickly, then it gives me a black screen with a command line asking for my login.
[19:29] <ikonia> Tyler: if you look at the grub menu before you edit it, is there a "safe" option
[19:29] <K1rk> The error I'm getting is "Bad return status for module build".  Here is the output:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5862639/  and here is the make.log content:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5862642/   Any suggestions?
[19:30] <trism> jrr: apt-cache policy packagename;
[19:31] <genii> K1rk: Looks like you should install linux-headers-generic
[19:32] <K1rk> genii, linux-headers-generic is already newest version.  Same results after apt-get install linux-headers-generic.
[19:32] <Tyler> ikonia: no. there are 2 options for ubuntu one has nothing to the right of it, then the other has "(recovery mode)" to the right of it. I have been editing to one without recovery mode.
[19:32] <k1l> K1rk: make sure the headers file matches your kernel (uname -a)
[19:33] <Daughain_> Interesting.......I seem to have an issue woith xwindows strarting on boot. If I boot to cli and start xwindows, the system starts fine.
[19:34] <jjavaholic> how can I debug no unity calendar indicator.
[19:34] <K1rk> k1l, genii, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5862659  -- it looks like the versions might actually not match up.
[19:34] <genii> K1rk: Did you do an ldconfig  afterinstalling the headers?
[19:34] <genii> Meh, work. afk
[19:34] <seydar> I've got an issue with my iptables/ufw: root@majoit:~# ufw status
[19:34] <seydar> ERROR: problem running ip6tables
[19:35] <ikonia> seydar: 1.) why are you root
[19:35] <ikonia> seydar: 2.) do you have ipv6 setup
[19:35] <K1rk> genii, I installed the headers a long time ago.  I'm going to re-install and try to get the latest version on here.
[19:36] <seydar> ikonia: i am root because i am futzing with iptables in this one terminal window, and i *think* i have ipv6 setup. i was using ufw with no problems about two weeks ago
[19:36] <seydar> ikonia: how can i check to see if i have ipv6 set up?
[19:36] <lmat> So cd /etc; group gshadow passwd shadow      Are the only files I need to copy over to create the new users on the new system?
[19:36] <ikonia> seydar: you're really asking how to know if you're connected on ipv6...while you're trying to setup an ipv6 firewall ?
[19:36] <ikonia> seydar: why are you trying to setup an ipv6 firewall if you don't even know if you're connected on ipv6
[19:37] <seydar> ikonia: whoa, i'm not intending to do anything for ipv6 specifically, though you're right, ufw does add rules for both normal ip and ipv6
[19:37] <ikonia> seydar: it should only add what you tell it to add
[19:38] <ikonia> seydar: I suspct it's trying to start ip6tables because there is a rule there
[19:40] <seydar> ikonia: i pushed some buttons, namely I ran `ufw disable` and then `ufw enable` and i got some intredasting results. namely, ufw status works now, but i'd like to troubleshoot the output it gave me from `ufw enable`
[19:41] <ikonia> check the iptables rules for v4 and v6
[19:42] <K1rk> I can't seem to find the correct version of the linux-headers in apt for the kernel I'm running....
[19:42] <seydar> `ip6tables --list` shows me no rules and everything is set to accept. this is a bad thing which i will address once i get my ufw business working
[19:42] <Delty> Halp plox
[19:42] <flan> is there a gui way to update to the latest version of gpodder?
[19:42] <ikonia> ufw business ?
[19:42] <genii> K1rk: Hopefully you didn't compile your own kernel.
[19:43] <K1rk> genii, nope... should not be anything non-standard here... although it is a Lucid machine still.
[19:43] <seydar> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/a1tNaJPE
[19:43] <n00b_> Hello is it possible to give the standard user-group (not-admin) access to the software-center without giving full sudo access?  and how would I go about it can it be done in the gui? edit /etc/sudoers?
[19:43] <K1rk> n00b_, yeah I think that can be done, you can give users sudo rights for certain commands only.
[19:43] <Delty> Everytime I try and boot ubuntu it says "Poor configuration" Or something along those lines
[19:43] <ikonia> lots of problems there
[19:44] <seydar> ikonia: many problems. i am a bad man.
[19:44] <ikonia> seydar: 1.) it can't load certain iptables kernels modules
[19:44] <n00b_> @kirk, so edit it to include access to dkpg and apt.get or?
[19:44] <K1rk> n00b_, check this out:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/allow-a-normal-user-to-run-commands-as-root.html
[19:44] <Jordan_U> n00b_: Though I don't know the details of how you would do that, I am pretty sure that it can be done, and that you would want to be looking at policykit rather than /etc/sudoers.
[19:44] <ikonia> seydar: 2.) it can't restore the exiting rules (probably because they reference rules for modules that are not loaded)
[19:44] <K1rk> jordan__, n00b_ we did it here but we used sudoers - we only allowed them to run certain commands as sudo
[19:44] <K1rk> n00b_, I think that link I sent you describes how to edit the sudoers file to achieve this.
[19:44] <ikonia> seydar: 3.) you're kernel appears to be a non-standard one, 2.6.32-042stab076.8 is not an ubuntu kernel, where did that come from
[19:45] <n00b_> @jordan, thx, i'' try and google policykit
[19:45] <K1rk> n00b_, you'd want your user to only be able to run apt, dpkg, software-center, etc...as sudo
[19:45] <ikonia> seydar: 4.) you've not got permissions to set the ipv4 network stack options, (probably due to lack of modules again)
[19:45] <Jordan_U> K1rk: n00b_: Software Center itself doesn't need to run as root, it only needs to use policykit to send commands to apt-daemon, so changing /etc/sudoers is the wrong approach.
[19:45] <n00b_> @kirk, thanks I didn't see the link the first time
[19:46] <ryan-c> so, I just updated firefox, and now when I right click my right click menu has like 100 items in it, most of which shouldn't be there
[19:46] <seydar> ikonia: the kernel is simply the one i got from my VPS
[19:46] <ikonia> seydar: I'd talk to your vps provider
[19:46] <ikonia> seydar: looks like a custom ubuntu spin
[19:46] <DigeratiW> any virtualbox / vmware gurus in here? I exported a virtualbox vm and it will not import in the vmwareplayer, got the error about failed to import OVF etc
[19:46] <ikonia> DigeratiW: try #vmware
[19:47] <seydar> ikonia: is it... a bad kernel? is it something that needs to be fixed and reinstalled, or can i install the missing modules now?
[19:47] <ikonia> seydar: you need to talk to your hosting provider, they have made your ubuntu build non-standard so it's impossible to tell what's going on without knowing what they have changed and why
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> ryan-c, Maybe a screenshot in a imagiebin.
[19:49] <rantic> Could anyone tell me the name of the GUI in Ubuntu 13.04 responsible for sound preferences?
[19:49] <deadweasel> alsamixer
[19:49] <deadweasel> rantic
[19:49] <Torikun> anyone can help me with my CentOS/Linux does not detect 8GB of memory and just 1 x 4 GB DIMM? The BIOS reports 8GB total. Os only detects 4GB
[19:49] <n00b_> Jordan_U: thx, I'll look into that
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> Torikun, Thewre is a centos channel.
[19:49] <ikonia> Torikun: no, you'r ein #ubuntu - not #centos
[19:49] <rantic> Torikun: Sounds like you picked up the 32bit version
[19:50] <K1rk> Jordan_U, wrong approach perhaps, but it's how we did it on the Lucid build we pushed out 2 years ago and it did work for us.
[19:50] <Torikun> 64-bit for both
[19:50] <Torikun> x86_64 os install
[19:50] <ikonia> Torikun: take it to #centos please.
[19:50] <Torikun> this happened on ubuntu also
[19:50] <ikonia> Torikun: take it to #centos please.
[19:50] <Torikun> i just booted a live cd
[19:50] <rantic> deadweasel: It is?
[19:50] <Torikun> of ubuntu
[19:50] <ikonia> Torikun: take it to #centos please.
[19:51] <deadweasel> rantic, i'll stop helping now, because I'm not sure, my bad.  but if you're having sound issues, alsamixer is a good place to start.
[19:51] <deadweasel> what is the issue?
[19:51] <ultimamax> I recently installed Ubuntu from a disk. My computer has secureboot, but I just moved the boot priority of my ODD over the HDD, and it installed it. Now I can get into Ubuntu from grub just fine, but when I try to boot Windows 8, I get this error. http://i.imgur.com/7bh2Tjw.png Pressing a key brings me back to grub.
[19:51]  * deadweasel doesn't actually stop helping.
[19:52] <rantic> deadweasel: Oh don't worry about it now, I'm building an Ubuntu Minimal 13.04 system and wanted to know the name of the sound preferences program to use.
[19:52] <seydar> ikonia: i found some success in reducing the errors by changing /etc/default/ufw a bit and following http://blog.kylemanna.com/linux/2013/04/26/ufw-vps/
[19:53] <seydar> ikonia: i'm going to keep googling for the errors. thank you very much for your help and guidance
[19:53] <ryan-c> updating firebug fixed my firefox menu
[19:53] <rantic> deadweasel: when I right click the volume icon in the system tray and go to Sound Settings, the program that launches, I'd love to know the name
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> ultimamax, You might take a look here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[19:56] <styles> Is virtualbox the recommended virtual machine manager
[19:57] <wheatthin> only because it's opensourced
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> ...
[19:57] <Daughain> I'm having a boot issue. I have to roll back to an older kernel in recovery mode and manually start xwindows  in order to get a UI...??
[19:57] <wheatthin> :)
[19:58] <wheatthin> startx
[19:58] <Daughain> wheatthin, Was that to me?
[19:58] <wheatthin> yup
[19:59] <Daughain> wheaties, Let me explain what happens on reboot if I leave it alone; BIOS loads, then everything goes to a black screen until I manually turn off the system.
[20:00] <wheatthin> does it have a blinking underscore?
[20:00] <Daughain> Nope. backlight turns off, no display.
[20:01] <wheatthin> Daughain, then it sounds to me like a bad resolution setting in grub
[20:01] <recon_lap> anyone know of a fix for a minimal install not installing grub ?
[20:01] <Daughain> wheatthin, Ok, thanks.
[20:02] <recon_lap> 12.04 btw
[20:02] <Daughain> Would a change in plymouth settings cause this?
[20:02] <wheatthin> I'm unaware of plymouth
[20:03] <Daughain> Ok, thanks wheatthin
[20:03] <musicman_> Hi all - wondering if anyone is in the mood to enlighten me on wireless issues: I've been an Ubuntu user for about 5 years, have found workarounds for practically every issue I have ever run into. I am an Ubuntu evangelist, and this recent issue has shamed me and Ubuntu to the point where I'm not telling anyone to switch anymore, as people I have helped switch have also randomly lost all wireless connectivity on one of the recent upda
[20:03] <musicman_> tes. The issue seems to center around all things broadcom...I've truly scoured the forums, and come up empty handed. The issue doen't seem to be system specific, as my buddies' laptops wireless crapped out at the same time...
[20:03] <Jordan_U> recon_lap: What exactly happened? Did you see any error message?
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> musicman_, If you reason in dochotomies that happens.
[20:04] <musicman_> I have tried every other distro, and all of them - wireless is toast, leading me to believe the change may have been at the kernel level??????????????????
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> dichotomies*
[20:05] <recon_lap> Jordan_U: well it's actually a question from another user, they trying to install from a 12.04 mini-cd , it just says it cant find "grub" when it's downloading packages. but other packages download fine
[20:06] <musicman_> I've used this box for years - wireless has been great on any distro. Same with my friends' - then, one week, wireless is just irepreably toast
[20:07] <musicman_> no error messages - just no wireless device even functioning of being recognized.
[20:07] <musicman_> was there some kernel level change of wireless/broadcom drivers??
[20:08] <musicman_> it is so frustrating and embarrassing
[20:09] <musicman_> tried all the standard workarounds, such as using the alternative drivers, tried importing stuff from windows (where the device and wireless are still working flawlessly)
[20:11] <BluesKaj> musicman_, importing what from windows ?
[20:11] <Dalek-Caan> blazemore; I'm back! after some time haha, but I tried to apply the fix you suggested. Are you here?
[20:12] <MsSayian> My hardrive wont show the right amount of space it is a 1TB hard drive, and I'm only using at max 350GB, but it says the hard drive is full. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this?
[20:12] <musicman_> ya (blueskaj) - there is some crazy driver import utility in xfce
[20:12] <musicman_> didn't work though, of course
[20:13] <alunos> c--
[20:13] <alunos_> hello world
[20:13] <BluesKaj> I missed your original question due to some dropped conns on my network , can you fill me in pls ?
[20:13] <BluesKaj> musicman_, ^
[20:14] <MsSayian> My hardrive wont show the right amount of space it is a 1TB hard drive, and I'm only using at max 350GB, but it says the hard drive is full. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this?
[20:14] <Dalek-Caan> !patience MsSayian
[20:14] <Dalek-Caan> !patience | MsSayian
[20:15] <robin_> I need help with my webcam, anyone give me a hand?
[20:17] <MsSayian> @ Dalek-Caan There were alot of logging out, and logging in which was why i repeated. I've been there before.
[20:17] <BluesKaj> MsSayian, how are you determining your hdd space ?\
[20:17] <musicman_> Hey again BluesKaj - ya - my issue is that basically - after 2 years of using the same laptop with any distro (usually ubuntu) with perfect wireless, one day wireless just died on an upgrade. Happened to by buddies as well with different systems
[20:17] <Dalek-Caan> That is no reason to repeat yourself over, so hope you don't go there too much ;-)
[20:17] <musicman_> wireless seems to be a broadom driver issue
[20:17] <MsSayian> BluesKaj I ran the df and du -sh and du -ch to verify. and haha Dalek I get you I wouldn't abuse it.
[20:17] <musicman_> I tried going back to older distros that worked and wireless still wont work
[20:17] <Dalek-Caan> It's okay, I guess I am just in a bad mood, got some bad issues here.
[20:17] <musicman_> it seems to be a change at the kernel leve though, as all distros stopped working for me
[20:18] <MsSayian> Whats wrong Dalek if you don't mind me asking?
[20:19] <Dalek-Caan> I have an harddisk that is detectable but not mountable on Ubuntu since I switched from Microsoft Server 2008 R2, and now Windows sees this disk as a RAW disk as well. MsSayian
[20:19] <BluesKaj> oh no , not another bcm problem , musicman_ ...afraid I'm not very well versed about the latest issues
[20:19] <musicman_> I KNOW DUDE!!! The forums are FULL of bcm posts with no resolution
[20:19] <robin_> Webcam assistance in 13.04? anyone? :(
[20:19] <musicman_> I have spent countless hours...]
[20:20] <Jordan_U> recon_lap: What version of Ubuntu and what packages were selected by the user to be installed? The "grub" package is grub legacy and should not be installed by default (instead grub-pc or grub-efi-amd64).
[20:20] <Dalek-Caan> I really don't want to lose the data on it and I am pretty sure the harddisk is not physically broken, just stopped being accessible since I installed Ubuntu
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> !details > robin_
[20:20] <BluesKaj> musicman_, have you tried wicd ?
[20:21] <musicman_> I am really needing a resolution, as I've talked a ton of people into using Ubuntu, taught them how to use it, adn then one day a whole bunch of us on different systems get nuked by some weird randon update that kills wreless!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:21] <MsSayian> Dalek-Caan I can barely see your messages, because of all the logging out and logging in. I'm guessing it was originally NTFS your HD partition.
[20:21] <robin_> I just did an install of ubuntu 13.04 and I have no webcam... I'm not a programmer, and it is a known-working device. don't know where to start. Checked some websites and boards, to no avail.
[20:21] <Dalek-Caan> So if anyone is good at fixing mount issues/ntfs issues/mbr issues, maybe?
[20:22] <musicman_> it is such a classic criticism of ubuntu and linux in general, and here I (and ubuntu) am looking like an ass, and my friends are back to windows...
[20:22] <Dalek-Caan> MsSayian; Yes, it was formatted in NTFS when I had Windows Server installed on this system, did not reformat it.
[20:22] <Dalek-Caan> And I have another harddisk in here, that is the same model, which does work actually..
[20:22] <Dalek-Caan> Also formatted in NTFS
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> robin_, Is cheese installed, if not install it.
[20:23] <musicman_> yup - tried wicd
[20:23] <recon_lap> Jordan_U: the version is xubuntu 12.04 , it's a minimal cd, I've asked the guy what the exact package is, you can join in on xubuntu if you like , we trying to get a tty atm so we can install the correct grub
[20:24] <MsSayian> @Dalek-Caan I'll help you out with it when i get back. Gotta go to a conference if your still around
[20:24] <musicman_> seriously tried everything in the forums. Even esoteric system/hardware specific workarounds
[20:24] <Dalek-Caan> I kind of have to go and get some sleep soon, but I will certainly note your name down, if you do not mind? MsSayian ?
[20:24] <musicman_> Something to do with broadcom changed drastically recently that affected every distro
[20:24] <MsSayian> That is no problem. I have to go now take care.
[20:25] <robin_> wilee-nilee: already installed,
[20:25] <Dalek-Caan> Talk to you another time maybe, thanks for thinking with me, MsSayian !
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> robin_, What do you see if you open cheese?
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> yourself hopefully
[20:26] <robin_> black screen, no lights on the webcam
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> robin_, Have you checked additional drivers?
[20:26] <robin_> where?
[20:26] <recon_lap> musicman_ broadcom has alway been a problem card for some reason
[20:27] <robin_> it's been a LONG time since i've done any programming, and years since i've touched Ubuntu
[20:27] <musicman_> BluesKaj; Thanks for at least trying and caring! I appreciate the attempt!
[20:28] <mitsai> yo ppl :3
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> robin_, You can get there several ways easiest is the software center-edit-software sources, lat tab.
[20:28] <musicman_> If anyone in here has experience with Ubuntu wireless/Broadcom troubleshooting - let me know. My friends and I have been dead in the water for three weeks now. They gave up on Ubuntu and Linux because of this unsolvable issue.
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> last*
[20:28] <robin_> only NVIDIA in the additional driver stab
[20:29] <recon_lap> musicman_: if it affected everyone I'm supprised there are not hoards of people on here asking for help, did this happen recently?
[20:29] <musicman_> Hey RECON_LAP. Ya - There are so many dead-end bcm posts in the forums
[20:30] <recon_lap> musicman_: and you bcom wifi used to work?
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> robin_, Probably from here it will help to have hardware info for the channel that is. If it were me I would be looking at the web with 13.04 webcam and the computer model, same basic info here to some extent.
[20:30] <musicman_> Ya, bcm/wifi worked with ubuntu for three years, every version and even all other distros
[20:30] <musicman_> then, about a month ago, after an update or something, ....nuked
[20:31] <musicman_> still works great in Wondoze
[20:31] <recon_lap> musicman_: have you worked through the wifi trouble shooting guide?
[20:31] <robin_> it's a basic "gear head" camera, lemme see if i can find some models
[20:32] <alex________> hello could anyone help me out with getting wifi to work on a lenovo yoga 13?
[20:32] <recon_lap> musicman_: did the driver change?
[20:32] <musicman_> I've even tried some funky driver import utilities in linux to no avail, as the hardware is working fine in windows
[20:32] <BluesKaj> musicman_, I suggested wicd as an alternative to the default network manager
[20:33] <recon_lap> musicman_: what the make/model of the wireless card
[20:33] <robin_> is the Gearhead WCF2600HDBLU :)
[20:33] <musicman_> Not sure if the driver changed, but I tried reverting and wiping the system about 12 times with older/different distros and versions that worked fine before, but no cigar
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> alex________, Identify the card and problems for help.
[20:33] <seydar> i'm having some trouble getting ufw to setup my firewall without mysterious errors: http://pastebin.com/u8BBY33S
[20:34] <robin_> Wilee-Nilee: http://pastebin.com/e9Lp0Acf
[20:35] <recon_lap> musicman_: well, than should have worked if you had install media that worked before and you stopped it updating.
[20:35] <alex________> @wilee-nilee its a realtek 8723
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> !realtek
[20:36] <recon_lap> musicman_: change that 'should' to 'probably should' :)
[20:36] <Seegee> Hey guys, does anyone know anything about HTTP requests, grep, and /or netstat that can help me? Here is my question:
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> alex________, ^^^^
[20:36] <Seegee> http://superuser.com/questions/618145/send-http-request-from-server-to-another-server-and-get-the-ip-that-replies/
[20:36] <alex________> thanks guys, I will go and check them out!
[20:38] <musicman_> RECON; Ha! I'll cut and paste my system specs in for you
[20:38] <alex________> ok guys, I checked it out and its not applicable to my problem. I've been using the guide at: http://majordamo.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/getting-the-realtek-rtl8723ae-bt-wi-fi-card-to-work-on-a-lenovo-yoga-13-on-linux-mint-13-ubuntu-12-10/
[20:39] <Seegee> Hey guys, I need some help with HTTP requests / netstat, here is my question: http://superuser.com/questions/618145/send-http-request-from-server-to-another-server-and-get-the-ip-that-replies/
[20:39] <alex________> the problem I am having is with the command:   ./make_drv RTL8723as-vau
[20:39] <musicman_> recon; unfortunaley... there are three wireless drivers/hardware listed;
[20:39] <musicman_> Wireless LAN 	Atheros 	Wireless LAN Driver 	version 9.2.0.316
[20:39] <musicman_> Wireless LAN 	Broadcom 	Wireless LAN Driver 	version 5.100.82.63
[20:40] <musicman_> Wireless LAN 	Realtek 	Wireless LAN Driver 	version 2019.5.0223.2011
[20:40] <robin_> I installed and ran guvcview; got the following message: "guvcview error: unable to start with minimum setup, please reconnect your camera" I unseated and reseated to no effet
[20:41] <recon_lap> musicman_: pastebin the output of nm-tool
[20:42] <Seegee> Guys, I have a question. Basically, what I want to do is send a GET request to a web server, and then view which IP the web server sends the reply from
[20:42] <meetri> any recommendations for a remote desktop client? I tried Remmina but it's so buggy
[20:42] <musicman_>  Device: eth0  [Wired connection 1] -------------------------------------------
[20:42] <musicman_>   Type:              Wired
[20:42] <musicman_>   Driver:            atl1c
[20:42] <musicman_>   State:             connected
[20:42] <musicman_>   Default:           yes
[20:42] <musicman_>   HW Address:        DC:0E:A1:29:09:13
[20:42] <FloodBot1> musicman_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:43] <recon_lap> musicman_:  http://paste.ubuntu.com <---
[20:43] <musicman_> First time on IRC!
[20:43] <recon_lap> musicman_: the give us the link created so we can see the page
[20:43] <musicman_> That was funny (
[20:44] <robin_> I tried "gstreamer-properties" went to video, and under "default input", i tested it and got the test pattern... then ran "video for linux 2" and got the following message: "video for linux 2 (v4l2): device '/dev/video0" cannot capture at 16384x16384"
[20:44] <robin_> oh, sorry, the deivice is my VENUS camera... so the computer knows it's there! that was the output for the test button.
[20:44] <recon_lap> robin_: v4l2 is for getting your camera to work in java, you need it working in the OS first
[20:45] <robin_> duly noted :) I'm just hunting in message forums for people who've faced similar challenges
[20:45] <jilebedev> Hi. Is there a man page describing the various /dev entries that are not actual physical devices? For example, to distinguish between /dev/random and /dev/urandom?
[20:46] <musicman_> did you get the pastebin output?
[20:46] <musicman_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5862850/
[20:46] <musicman_> there you go!
[20:46] <musicman_> lol
[20:47] <jhutchins> robin_: That's pretty high res.
[20:47] <musicman_> I have the broadcom wireless driver manually deactivated though, as it wasn't working anyway
[20:47] <recon_lap> musicman_: look like you got no driver loaded, pastebin the output of lshw -C network
[20:47] <robin_> jhutchins: no kidding!
[20:47] <Znoosey> jilebedev, try man urandom
[20:48] <recon_lap> robin_: do you have a link to a description of your issue, I might have some tips
[20:49] <robin_> the description is this: I have a fresh install of 13.04, and a VENUS USB2.0 webcam. It's plugged in and the computer knows it's there, but cheese and guvcview don't recognize it.
[20:49] <musicman_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5862865/
[20:49] <robin_> I'd love whatever help you can render, Recon_lap, I need it for a PhD course I'm taking -panic-
[20:50] <musicman_> I can reactivate the broadcom drivers and give you the output with it on.... want me to do that?
[20:50] <Seegee> Guys, I have a question. Basically, what I want to do is send a GET request to a web server, and then view which IP the web server sends the reply from, is that possible?
[20:50] <ozzloy> i have a vm here that doesn't have internet and i'm not sure why
[20:50] <robin_> I just ran "guvcview -d /dev/videoX" and it spat out, "Guvcview error: unable to open device, please make sure the camera is connected and the correct driver is installed." I would imagine that is my issue: Drivers
[20:50] <ozzloy> how do i start investigating "no internet"?  it used tohave internet
[20:51] <recon_lap> musicman_: you truned off you bcom , aggh , that might explain why it did not show
[20:51] <musicman_> lol!
[20:51] <_44trent3> I seem to be having issues updating my video driver. The GPU is ATI (yes ATI) Radeon HD 2600. I cannot seem to update it through the download on the AMD  Site. Its *supossed* to work. I made sure it was the linux one.
[20:52] <jhutchins> robin_: That sounds like permissions on /dev/video0 may not allow everybody to access it.  It should have group permissions, users need to be a  member of the right group.
[20:52] <musicman_> I'll turn it back on/reactivate, and can give you the output again if you'd like
[20:52] <robin_> I'm the only user... I can do "sudo chmod 777 /dev/video0"  yes?
[20:53] <robin_> i'm not totally green, just confused at webcam jargon :P
[20:53] <recon_lap> musicman_: that would be good. what to see if i can work out what driver it's trying to load
[20:53] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, you're talking about the proprietary amd driver, fglrx, _44trent3? I wouldn't recommend d/ling the driver from that site...
[20:53] <_44trent3> Why?
[20:53] <`compdoc> _44trent3, do they say they support that card? seems a low model number
[20:53] <_44trent3> Well they do.
[20:54] <recon_lap> robin_ : what is you cam issue anyway?
[20:54] <meetri> can someone recommend a good remote desktop client/server app to use in ubuntu? Remmina is soo buggy...
[20:54] <robin_> computer picks it up in LSUSB but no programs pick it up
[20:55] <_44trent3> The link is http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx It does have Radeon HD 2xxx series in the seletion for the GPU series.
[20:55] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, are you aware that driver has horrible 2d acceleration? You'd only really use that driver if you're a gamer.... _44trent3 I suggest you install it from Ubuntu's repos.
[20:55] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, sudo apt-get install fglrx
[20:55] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, "well they do" what?
[20:55] <_44trent3> Well I play Minecraft?
[20:55] <recon_lap>  robin_: have you tried with cheese , also try with gksu cheese
[20:56] <robin_> cheese shows black screen, and guvcview fails outright
[20:57] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, the drivers from that site aren't approved by ubuntu, you see? and I've seen people install those drivers and have problems, like getting blank screen on boot up cuz X won't start. download and install at your own risk. But I recommend you download and install it with sudo apt-get install fglrx
[20:57] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, what ubuntu version are you on?
[20:57] <_44trent3> I'm on 12.04 LTS
[20:57] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, are you using Unity?
[20:57] <_44trent3> I think...
[20:58] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, okay, lick on the dash board, and type in Software Sources
[20:58] <Ari-Yang> then go to the 'Additional Drivers' tab and see if you see fglrx there, if you do, select it and install it from there
[20:58] <musicman_> (recon_lap) Hey - here is the nm tool output with bcm activated: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5862883/
[20:58] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, or open up a terminal and type sudo apt-get install fglrx or sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates
[20:58] <whatsyourname> give me some facts why ubuntu is better than windows
[20:59] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, after installing, reboot
[20:59] <Ari-Yang> whatsyourname, I recommend you google that
[20:59] <robin_> whatsyourname: I have a hundred reasons, and yeah, google it. :)
[20:59] <Ari-Yang> whatsyourname, this is a support channel (for ubuntu)....
[20:59] <recon_lap> robin_: just saw you earlier description, do a lshw on you camera and check what driver it;s using
[21:00] <_44trent3> Okee dokee I'll restart
[21:00] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, you installed it?
[21:00] <Dalek-Caan> I have this issue where one of my harddisks is not readable in Ubuntu since I switched from Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows now sees it as a RAW disk and Ubuntu does detect the disk, but I can not mount it, anyone?
[21:00] <_44trent3> Its installing, I meant once its done.
[21:01] <robin_> the only output is PCI (sysfs), SCSI. I assume it's taking time to retrieve the information. Will pastebin when it's done :)
[21:01] <recon_lap> musicman_: ok, now lshw -C network
[21:01] <musicman_> (recon_lap); here is the lshw -C output; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5862891/
[21:01] <Jordan_U> Dalek-Caan: Is it a "Windows Dynamic Disk"?
[21:01] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, alright, good luck....
[21:02] <_44trent3> i have a question? What is the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[21:02] <Ari-Yang> !kubuntu
[21:02] <Dalek-Caan> Jordan_U; What do you mean? I have 2 of the same model harddisks, exactly the same, both formatted in NTFS, same settings but one does not get read in Ubuntu and since Ubuntu's install, it seems messed up.
[21:02] <Ari-Yang> ^ _44trent3
[21:02] <auronandace> _44trent3: default desktop environment and installed applications
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> _44trent3, Different desktops the web can give you nice pics and app descriptions.
[21:03] <Ari-Yang> !kubuntu > _44trent3
[21:03] <Ari-Yang> !kubuntu > Ari-Yang
[21:03] <dcd> Het
[21:03] <robin_> is there a particular LSHW command you wish me to complete?
[21:04] <_44trent3> Saw the PM
[21:04] <Jordan_U> Dalek-Caan: Windows Dynamic Disks is a (somewhat) LVM type partitioning scheme proprietary to Windows. "Messed up" in what way? What is the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> !who > robin_
[21:05] <dcd>  how the new ver
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> dcd, Do you need support?
[21:05] <Ari-Yang> dcd, please message in complete sentences.
[21:05] <robin_> wilee-nilee: I was wondering how you all did that!
[21:05] <Dalek-Caan> Jordan_U; http://paste.ubuntu.com/5862909/
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[21:06] <robin_> wilee-nilee: okay, it only output PCI and SCSI... was there any particular tag that was supposed to follow LSHW?
[21:06] <Dalek-Caan> Jordan_U; By "messed up" I mean, since I installed Ubuntu it no longer accessible, it was always working under Windows
[21:07] <adac> my middle mouse button does not work with pasting. How can I activate this?
[21:08] <Jordan_U> Dalek-Caan: Is it currently working in Windows? Is sdb the the problematic disk? Was the problematic disk ever part of your FakeRAID array?
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> robin_, Not sure the webcam I have plugs and plays, I have not had to investigate problems in general.
[21:08] <recon_lap> musicman_: anyway , you card is using 'atl1c' driver by the looks of things. we could try blacklisting that driver. other that that I have few ideas
[21:09] <doomlord_> finally got round to installing a new psu and the gtx640 and i'm pleasantly surprised to find unity does infact work with it :)
[21:09] <doomlord_> (previously it didn't work on12.04
[21:09] <Dalek-Caan> Jordan_U; It is not working anymore under Windows, Windows detects it as a "RAW" harddisk now since the install of Ubuntu.
[21:10] <Dalek-Caan> I know for 100% sure I only selected the 160 GB to install to and wipe that HDD first.
[21:10] <robin_> wilee-nilee: thanks anyway. I guess I'm up a creek... unless anyone else knows how to fix fussy webcams
[21:10] <Dalek-Caan> Jordan_U; But even if I go into my bios and change the raid controller to any other option, it does not work.
[21:11] <Jordan_U> Dalek-Caan: Could you please answer my other questions?
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> robin_, I would try a thread on the ubuntu forums or askubuntu  http://askubuntu.com/
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> and/or
[21:13] <Dalek-Caan> Jordan_U; I know the label is "Data 2" how can I check which harddisk that is?
[21:14] <Dalek-Caan> Jordan_U; It is sdb2, sorry, tried to mount it and it gave an error saying: Error mounting /dev/sdb2 at /media/raymond/Data 21: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Dalek-Caan: Unfortunately labels are part of the filesystem, so if the filesystem is not detected the label can't be read. You can try "sudo blkid".
[21:15] <Dalek-Caan> Jordan_U; Apparently something is found though, since it does call the HDD "Data 2", this is what the pop-up shows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5862938/
[21:17] <musicman_> (recon_lap); interesting it is using the atheros driver though, as ubuntu has always autodetected it as bcm. Hmm. I've never tried blacklisting the driver; let's give it a try. What would I use if I blacklisted the atheros? Would I try the bcm?
[21:17] <Jordan_U> Dalek-Caan: You still haven't answered if this disk has ever been part of one of your FakeRAID arrays.
[21:17] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, did it work out?
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[21:17] <Dalek-Caan> Jordan_U; No it has not.
[21:17] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[21:18] <_44trent3> It sorta did. My laptop lcd display  is messed up. It was originally 1680x1050 and now its 1440x1050
[21:18] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, and you don't get any tearing or anything do you? Open up a terminal and type fglrxinfo
[21:19] <_44trent3> It gave me an error
[21:19] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, you might have to check /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if you have one that is)
[21:19] <Dalek-Caan> Jordan_U; No it has not been part of the fake-raid but even if I disable that, it does not get recognized.
[21:19] <happyface> Is there a way I can scan all files and output the one with the smallest diff from a source file?
[21:19] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, what error? pastebin it
[21:20] <Otterley> hi folks, if you're running Ubuntu Lucid as a Xen PV guest, DO NOT UPGRADE to the latest kernel!
[21:20] <Jordan_U> Dalek-Caan: The symptoms you're seeing are consistent with trying to mount a partition from one device of a RAID array (rather than assembling the array and mounting from there).
[21:20] <Otterley> you will be unable to reboot your host
[21:20] <Slart> happyface: if you can figure out a way to get a number for the difference between two files it ought to be possible
[21:20] <Ari-Yang> Otterley, oh, thanks for the heads up
[21:20] <Otterley> if you care about this, please +1 this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1199987
[21:21] <_44trent3> http://pastebin.com/BrbWf6Cw
[21:21] <Dalek-Caan> Jordan_U; yesterday, I did not have this enabled and I had the same error, but would you like me to disable the fake raid and set it up to IDE, AHCI mode? The bios also tells me it has options like: Enhanced mode, Optimized mode and an option to disable all of that.
[21:21] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, you get that when you type fglrxinfo?
[21:21] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, tbh not sure what the prob is, I'm not too good with figuring out fglrx problems :V
[21:22] <Ari-Yang> you can just sit tight and see if anybody gets to you
[21:22] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, you should also check demsg
[21:22] <happyface> Slart: yeah, good point. I can do that with diff and wc. I guess I'll have to write a script, thanks!
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> !lucid | Otterley
[21:22] <recon_lap> had some real strange IRC weirdness there, kept getting netsplits
[21:22] <Otterley> ?
[21:23] <_44trent3> How do I do that?
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> Otterley, Lucid desktop is end of life
[21:23] <Ari-Yang> wilee-nilee, Otterley knows what lucid is....
[21:23] <Jordan_U> Dalek-Caan: No amount of enabling or disabling BIOS options alone will change the contents of the disk.
[21:23] <Ari-Yang> !demsg
[21:23] <Slart> happyface: ah.. diff and wc should get you a rough estimate.. nice thinking
[21:23] <Otterley> wilee-nilee, I'm running on a server.
[21:23] <recon_lap> musicman_: you there, sorry , my IRC stopped working
[21:23] <Otterley> Ubuntu is still maintaining its kernel, wilee-nilee
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> Otterley, Cool, then identify as such.
[21:23] <Otterley> wilee-nilee, identify what?
[21:23] <Ari-Yang> !dmesg > _44trent3
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> Otterley, That you are running the server.
[21:24] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, I think it's under /var/log/dmseg
[21:24] <Otterley> it's irrelevant wilee-nilee
[21:24] <Ari-Yang> */var/log/dmesg
[21:24] <Dalek-Caan> I see, Jordan_U, but I do remember Windows having issues when people would change from IDE to AHCI mode, with it crashing on boot, not sure if this was related.
[21:24] <musicman_> (recon_lap); no worries!
[21:24] <musicman_> stiil here
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> Otterley, To you maybe but to users on the channel and the world seeing these post who do not know what end of life is it is confusing.
[21:25] <Otterley> wilee-nilee, are you a maintainer?
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> no
[21:25] <Otterley> then please, pipe down
[21:25] <musicman_>  (recon_lap); interesting it is using the atheros driver though, as ubuntu has always autodetected it as bcm. Hmm. I've never tried blacklisting the driver; let's give it a try. What would I use if I blacklisted the atheros? Would I try the bcm?
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | Otterley
[21:25] <Ari-Yang> wilee-nilee, Otterley was just giving a heads up about the server. What is your point, wilee-nilee?
[21:25] <Ari-Yang> .___.
[21:26] <recon_lap> musicman_: did you pastebin the output of lsmod
[21:26] <Jordan_U> Dalek-Caan: If this is, as it appears it might be, one drive of a multi drive RAID then you'll nees to find the other device and assemble the array, or if that other device is no longer available or has been repartitioned to be used as an independant disk, then you may not be able to recover your data.
[21:26] <_44trent3> I do have an external monitor. I'll see if disconnecting will fix this issue.
[21:26] <Otterley> look, I'm here to help people.  be pedantic to someone who's not identifying kernel bugs for you.
[21:26] <Otterley> and serious ones at that
[21:26] <whoever> Otterley: why would you need to know if someone is a maintainer
[21:27] <Ari-Yang> whoever, he asked because he didn't want to say what you said to wilee-nilee if he was a maintainer
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> power trip
[21:27] <Dalek-Caan> Jordan_U; This has always been a single disk, no raid setup. And yesterday it was working fine with the same setting under Windows Server 2008 R2, until I installed Ubuntu
[21:27] <recon_lap> musicman_ you can follow the guide I am at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide/Drivers#Check_Driver
[21:27] <Otterley> whoever, I'd want to know in case that person is actually in charge of triaging bugs so they get to the right person
[21:27] <Ari-Yang> now all of this is pretty much pointless now, we should move on....
[21:27] <Otterley> in which case, I'd do whatever they said
[21:28] <_44trent3> I cant even lower the screen res
[21:28] <holstein> Otterley: you could try the server dev mailing list.. 10.04 on the desktop is EOL, and actually the server is too, so it might be challenging to find someone to give it attention
[21:29] <Otterley> holstein, server shouldn't be EOL
[21:29] <boutell> Hi. How do I disable a RAID device - not one drive, the ENTIRE device - so I can ask mdadm to RE-assemble it? It's confused about the drive letters after the removal of a USB device.
[21:29] <_44trent3> How many people have had this issue?
[21:29] <holstein> Otterley: i didnt say it should or shouldnt be.. i said it *is* soon
[21:29] <boutell> this is linux software RAID, mdadm, thus right channel.
[21:29] <Otterley> server is maintained until April 2015, and there is plenty of velocity on kernel updates
[21:29] <musicman_> (recon_lap); sounds good mate! I'll go for it. Got to sign off for a bit, but deeply appreciate your assistance. You are great!!!!!
[21:30] <Ari-Yang> holstein,  wilee-nilee, just misunderstood I think.
[21:30] <whoever> Otterley: thx, but still a little confused, sine , the people here are volunteers , and if it is a bug(usally something someone has not seen before, ) you would be advised to go to the pkg site, and file a bug  report there
[21:30] <Ari-Yang> he probably thought Otterley was talking about the desktop
[21:30] <holstein> Otterley: i thought the point was a lack of velocity, and that might be why
[21:31] <holstein> Otterley: so, you tried the server dev list, then?
[21:31] <Ari-Yang> whoever, I think he did. he just wanted to give people here a heads up is all
[21:31] <Otterley> I only came here to point to the bug and let people know.
[21:31] <Otterley> you're welcome. :P
[21:31] <holstein> Otterley: thanks..
[21:31] <boutell> I can't get past "mdadm: device /dev/md0 already active - cannot assemble it"
[21:31] <boutell> aha: --stop
[21:31] <_44trent3> Should I make  a pastbin dmesg?
[21:31] <holstein> Otterley: and your time is appreciated.
[21:32] <Jordan_U> Dalek-Caan: The ntfs filesystem on that partition is larger, according to the Master File Table, than the partition. I can't think of a way that installing Ubuntu to an unrelated disk could change the MFT in this way.
[21:32] <whoever> Ari-Yang: ah, if he did or din't i didn't see that , all i really say was him asking if wilee-nilee was a maintainer, and then telling him to pipe down, with nothing else to go on, i assumed he, might be new
[21:33] <boutell> … everything is cool now. I wish Linux didn't have variable drive letters at all.
[21:33] <Dalek-Caan> Me neither Jordan_U  :(
[21:33] <_44trent3> Ari? Maybe restarting would fix it? Do you think it might?
[21:33] <nrze> hey guys, i wanna start using linux, would ubuntu be good to start?
[21:33] <Dalek-Caan> Dalek-Caan; There was some ntfs program under Ubuntu to fix certain errors, like these, but it was tricky someone said yesterday to me, do you know something to try and fix this error?
[21:33] <Jordan_U> Dalek-Caan: My guess is that the MFT has remained the same, which leads to the question of why a dilesystem would be creates that's larger than its containing device (which would be explained by its actual underlying "device" being an array).
[21:34] <_44trent3> Would restarting maybe fix it?
[21:34] <Jordan_U> Dalek-Caan: Beyond that, I'm stumped as to where to go from here :(
[21:34] <ricky_> when will ubuntu be rolling release? please need answer
[21:34] <whoever> is there a way, to quit the auto-search in dash? ie: i can start typingin and get amazon results back
[21:35] <whoever> scratch that , i must had fat fingerd my keys and not been watching
[21:35] <Dalek-Caan> Jordan_U; There is no way I can tell Ubuntu the harddisk is exactly the same size as it's twin brother?
[21:36] <Dalek-Caan> Or is there a way to populate/calculate this out, Jordan_U ?
[21:36] <recon_lap> nrze: none easier, but ubuntu unity has moved towards a very consumer orientated approach, so it's quite different from most other distros
[21:37] <nrze> how do you mean recon?
[21:38] <gordonjcp> nrze: Ubuntu would be a great distro to start with.  Do you expect anyone in here to tell you any different? ;-)
[21:38] <Jordan_U> Dalek-Caan: If this is really the proper containing device then the filesystem is badly broken and needs to be fixed. The only tool for fixing ntfs is Windows' chkdsk, but if this data is important you should make an image of the filesystem before attempting to fix it.
[21:38] <recon_lap> nrze: sort of depends on why you want to use linux.
[21:40] <Dalek-Caan> Windows won't run chkdsk on it and tells me the harddisk needs to be formatted before it can be used (it is seen as a RAW HDD now by Windows, since Ubuntu's installation) Jordan_U
[21:42] <recon_lap> gordonjcp: I would hope that they would try to point someone to the most suitable distro depending on their needs rather that just recommend the version they use.
[21:42] <Jordan_U> Dalek-Caan: I don't know what to do then, sorry. photorec may be able to recover some files. Are there important files there that you don't have backups of?
[21:43] <Dalek-Caan> Yes, there are, Jordan_U , but I will try to run Acronis to make an image and see how much I can recover with it, thanks for trying to help though.
[21:43] <Jordan_U> Dalek-Caan: You're welcome. Good luck.
[21:47] <jjavaholic> which app would you suggest for recovering norton ghost files?
[21:50] <recon_lap> jjavaholic: only ever used it cli , and not for years
[21:52] <varunendra> jjavaholic, recovering .gho files themselves or 'from' .gho files?
[21:53] <Freb> how do i get the base of the DE?
[21:53] <Freb> not the apps that comes along
[21:55] <holstein> Freb: what de? unity? i would just search the package manager of your choice for what you are looking for. synaptic is nice
[21:56] <Freb> holstein: i mean the whole DE set
[21:56] <holstein> Freb: sure. for what DE?
[21:57] <holstein> Freb: as i said, for example, if you are talkginb about unity.. search unity in a file manager.. for XFCE, search that
[21:57] <Freb> what?
[21:58] <holstein> Freb: if you are talking about the xfce desktop environment, search for that.. search XFCE..
[21:58] <holstein> if not, search for what you are wanting.. or elaborate here for a volunteer
[21:58] <jjavaholic> recovering from ghost primarilly but a bit of both
[21:59] <Freb> holstein: didnt i decribe it?
[21:59] <holstein> 17:53 < Freb> how do i get the base of the DE?
[21:59] <holstein> ^^ thats what i read Freb .. and it says not what DE you want
[22:00] <holstein> but, the search will be the same.. if you want the LXDE, search LXDE
[22:01] <varunendra> jjavaholic, recovering the file itself is possible in photorec, it can identify .gho files. But for recovering within them, you may have to rely on ghost explorer that comes with it.
[22:01] <neho> anyone can answer a few questions about intel 845 g/gl and set up in linux mint nadia 14 and do I need al or gl with the 3d graphics i can't find packages on those.
[22:01] <Freb> holstein: i wanna know which DE that have base and not the software with it?
[22:02] <OerHeks> neho mint is not supported here, it has its own issues
[22:02] <holstein> Freb: which ever you want
[22:02] <cortexman1> I used dpkg —get-selections on one installation, and am now using dpkg —set-selections < my_selections on another. however, it is not installing g++ even though it is listed
[22:02] <neho> yeah I figured i miss ubuntu... atleast it had support for everything.. might plan a reinstall..
[22:02] <Freb> holstein: you mean, LXDE, XFCE, KDE, GNOME?
[22:02] <holstein> !mint | neho
[22:02] <holstein> ^^ you can ask them
[22:03] <OerHeks> neho there is a mint channel, see ubottu
[22:03] <cortexman1> in fact the number of packages from the old installation is 1583 and the number of the new is 1306 after trying to install them
[22:03] <holstein> neho: the wiki's for ubuntu mostly apply, you just cant get precise help here, since we dont konw what they change
[22:03] <recon_lap> Freb, try lsb_release -a
[22:03] <holstein> Freb: you install just the DE that you want.. without the extra packages
[22:04] <holstein> Freb: some are easier, and lighter to do this with than others
[22:04] <holstein> Freb: you would still have to say, for example "i am trying to install LXDE without any extra packages".. you are saying "i want just the DE".. and not naming the DE
[22:05] <neho> what version are they up to ubuntu I know of raring.. but i haven
[22:05] <Freb> yea i know, but i wish to have those just with the base, and not the applications.. so i could install those i want, cus i was thinking about have all of them.
[22:05] <neho> haven't been following much
[22:06] <holstein> Freb: you can try.. i usually find something is just not too "comfortable" about it.. though, i have many on my main machine.. 6 or so
[22:06] <holstein> Freb: i suggest starting with lxde.. its easy to add and configure, and "plays well with others"
[22:07] <Freb> holstein: you understand what i mean?
[22:09] <holstein> Freb: you want to run many desktop environments at once.. correct?
[22:09] <Freb> holstein: yes, having many to use, but not conflicting with each other, and  that i could use my defualt software for each? :)
[22:10] <Freb> that would be awsome
[22:10] <holstein> Freb: they *do* conflict with each other.. thats why i suggest taking it slow and adding LXDE first
[22:11] <holstein> Freb: you can also use virtualbox to virtualize different bases..
[22:11] <Freb> holstein: ok, why?
[22:11] <holstein> Freb: why what?
[22:11] <Freb> holstein: why would i start with lxde, what is the idea of yours with it? :)
[22:11] <otak> Freb: you could try eg. apt-cache depends lxde and maybe use the --no-install-recommends flag with apt-get
[22:12] <holstein> Freb: i said that it is easy to start with.. it doesnt confilt with anything that i have tried, and its easy to setup and install
[22:13] <Freb> holstein: what if i wish to use the others with LXDE?
[22:14] <holstein> Freb: you install them
[22:15] <loller> xd
[22:15] <_44trent3> The screen res issue is still persistining
[22:15] <Freb> holstein: haha, yea. but do you know what  to do with that i ask about?
[22:16] <loller> i think ubuntu should remove the pink and purple theme from unity
[22:16] <loller> its gay and discourages new users
[22:16] <holstein> Freb: i would be able to help you if you said what it was you wanted.. they are all different, though the suggestions made will work with any
[22:17] <_44trent3> Is there something similar to rolling back drivers like in Windows?
[22:17] <holstein> Freb: --no-install-recommends flag as otak suggests
[22:17] <holstein> _44trent3: you can find the driver and roll it back.. synaptic has an easy-ish GUI for that
[22:17] <Freb> holstein: what? jesus
[22:17] <OerHeks> Freb, For minimal Lubuntu installation, choose lubuntu-core. For minimal LXDE installation, choose lxde-core.
[22:18] <holstein> Freb: you are not saying what you want, friend.. if you want specifics, just say what you want... otherwise, install *any* de trying the --no-install-recommends flag
[22:18] <Freb> ok, i mean as an package?
[22:18] <_44trent3> How do I do that Holstein?
[22:19] <holstein> _44trent3: i would literally install and open synaptic, go to the package with the driver i installed, and in the menu, force the older version i want
[22:19] <krux> omg..
[22:19] <green_> kubuntu 13.04 where do i find the config file for kernel boot line?
[22:20] <holstein> !grub | green_ this is what i think you are looking for?
[22:20] <wissam> Hi ,i am using kubuntu 13.04 , is it safe to install gnome or lxde from repos?
[22:20] <eksip> hi
[22:20] <eksip> ubuntu!
[22:20] <eksip> this is chat or another suport chanel
[22:20] <holstein> wissam: you wont be able to remove them from the repos, since you dont have access to them, but you can remove them from your machine if you like
[22:21] <green_> no, i want to add a line to the config file to stop the screen from rolling on the 1920x1080 res
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> wissam, which gnome? lxde yes.
[22:22] <holstein> green_: i would look at adding it to the grub config
[22:22] <green_> ok i'll try that
[22:23] <otak> green_: have alook in /etc/default/grub, GFX_MODE=
[22:23] <wissam> wilee-nilee: i want to try lxde or razor-qt
[22:23] <_44trent3> Whre would i find the drivers in synaptic?
[22:23] <eksip> what drivers
[22:24] <eksip> had not this problem for many years
[22:24] <holstein> _44trent3: i would find them by searching for whatever drivers you installed.. that you are not specifically referring to, so far.. whatever it iwas you want to roll back
[22:24] <eksip> whith wat device do you have problem
[22:25] <_44trent3> It was a video driver I installed that fucked up my screen
[22:25] <holstein> !language | _44trent3
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> wissam, Not familiar with razor-qt, key here as suggetd you want to be able to remove stuff you install dektops can be problematic there without install lists. So do it from a terminal and save the installed packages to a text editor or use synaptic where a history is left. Tio fremove you would not just remove the install like lxde, but a package list.
[22:25] <holstein> _44trent3: you should just remove it then, and go from there
[22:26] <_44trent3> Uhh okay
[22:26] <holstein> i have used razorQT.. there is a ppa AFAIK
[22:26] <_44trent3> my bad
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> wissam, hope that makes sense. ;)
[22:26] <green_> doesn't seem to be anything in this file  /etc/default/grub, GFX_MODE=
[22:26] <otak> green_: sorry GRUB_GFXMODE and GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX
[22:27] <green_> ty
[22:27] <_44trent3> Nvidia?! I have amd gpu...
[22:27] <holstein> wissam: you dont need to remove the others. you can run them all on the same machine, and just choose at login
[22:27] <holstein> !nvidia | _44trent3 this should help you find what you installed, and help you remove it
[22:27] <wissam> wilee-nilee: i found a meta package in the softwae center so i can remove this package later
[22:27] <wissam> holstein: yes i know
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> wissam, If you think so, but I doubt that is a good idea, we have people come here all the time who install say the ubuntu-desktop, and then remove the ubuntu-desktop, leaving all the dependencies. I never use the software center so maybe you are okay.
[22:29] <eksip> ! why ubuntu
[22:29] <ikonia> ?
[22:29] <_44trent3> I have the right driver, but the screen resoultion was set to 1440x1050 instead of 1680x1050, and I can't change the screen resolution now.
[22:29] <green_> nothing in those either
[22:29] <lillen> I would like to add my xubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso as an apt-repository. Is there a good way to do this? Thanks a million!
[22:29] <ikonia> !aptoncd | lillen
[22:30] <wissam> wilee-nilee: ok thnx i will install it from the terminal
[22:30] <lillen> wow, thanks! :)
[22:30] <rocky> RockyNJ
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> wissam, YOu will notice here at this website in the playing around section left column list to remove and install desktops. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> lists*
[22:32] <inclusa> exit
[22:33] <_44trent3> Help?
[22:33] <otak> green_: if you look in the file /etc/default/grub you will see a line beginning GRUB_GFXMODE=
[22:33] <_44trent3> Am I in low graphics mode? I
[22:34] <_44trent3> Hmm
[22:34] <_44trent3> Was it because my laptop was unplugged?
[22:35] <green_> ok
[22:36] <wooo> Hello I want to see source code of c file of stdio. Where it is located ?
[22:36] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, you're probably in "low graphics" mode because fglrx failed to load
[22:36] <ikonia> do you me the stdio header ?
[22:36] <Ari-Yang> by "low graphics" mode do you mean VESA?
[22:37] <Ari-Yang> !vesa
[22:37] <_44trent3> If it failed, how do I make it unfailed
[22:37] <Ari-Yang> dunno...
[22:37] <Ari-Yang> it sounds like your problem is fglrx failing....
[22:37] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, perhaps google around to see?
[22:37] <ikonia> Ari-Yang: have you actually checked....
[22:37] <wooo> ikonia, no, .c file in which source code of function like fopen() will be there.
[22:37] <Ari-Yang> ikonia, checked what?
[22:37] <ikonia> see if it IS loading or not, see if that IS the problem
[22:38] <ikonia> before sending him off to google something that may not be the problem
[22:38] <wooo> ikonia, and also where stdio.h is present ?
[22:38] <Ari-Yang> it sounds like it has failed ikonia; he ran fglrxinfo in terminal and got some error
[22:38] <ikonia> wooo: ok, so that function will be referenced from a header thats included most likely
[22:38] <Ari-Yang> (he pasted earlier)
[22:38] <ikonia> Ari-Yang:.....have you checked
[22:38] <Ari-Yang> ikonia, not at all. _44trent3 have you checked?
[22:39] <_44trent3> Checked. yeah
[22:39] <green_> now in that grub file where would I put vga+mormal nomodeset?
[22:39] <wooo> ikonia, So where it is located ?
[22:39] <ikonia> wooo: depends the file and the function
[22:39] <green_> vga=normal nomodeset
[22:40] <wooo> ikonia, and how to check that ?
[22:40] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, what does glxinfo | grep -i opengl give you in terminal? pastebin it
[22:40] <ikonia> wooo: you should know/understand the pogram
[22:42] <_44trent3> How do I downgrade my driver?
[22:43] <ikonia> _44trent3: why do you want to do that ?
[22:43] <Ari-Yang> _44trent3, if you mean go back to the driver you were using, which was probably the open source radeon one, go to software sources and select it under the "Additional Drivers" tab
[22:43] <green_> otac?
[22:43] <otak> wooo: $ whereis stdio
[22:43] <Ari-Yang> ikonia, I guess he wants to go back because fglrx is giving him trouble
[22:44] <ikonia> otak: that's not going to work
[22:44] <_44trent3> That brings up the Ubuntu store. Is that supossed to happen
[22:45] <_44trent3> how do i go to software sources
[22:46] <green_> otak where should I put vga=normal nomodeset?
[22:48] <otak> green_: I'd say GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="vga=normal nomodeset" but I would be guessing, you should probably read the info page or be prepared to edit the command line in grub. Also don't forget to run sudo update-grub after you edit the file
[22:49] <green_> ok
[22:49] <eksip> there is guy from debian chat, who says, that ubuntu is not respecting user, putting not free flash by default. WHat do you think  about that
[22:49] <wooo> I got from C channel that the file is at  /usr/src/lib/libc/stdio/fread.c. But I couldn't find it.
[22:50] <ikonia> wooo: it doesn't work like that
[22:50] <wooo> ikonia, Where is it located on ubuntu.
[22:51] <ikonia> wooo: it depends on a few things, hence why I say you need to know the program
[22:52] <green_> otak i get this /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 26: /etc/default/grub: nomodeset: not found
[22:53] <otak> green_: I'm sorry I'm not familiar with those options. Also I have to sleep,
[22:53] <green_> ok ty
[22:56] <green_> anyone else have any idea on how to stop the screen from rolling on 1920x1080?
[22:57] <ikonia> set it to a resolution that fits on your monitor ?
[22:57] <green_> thats what fits my monitor
[22:57] <ikonia> clearly not, as it's scrolling...
[22:57] <ikonia> if it fit your monitor, it wouldn't scroll, as it would fit
[22:59] <green_> every other ubuntu install worked fine on 1920x1090
[22:59] <green_> 1080
[22:59] <ikonia> so will this one.
[23:00] <green_> brb
[23:09] <foobarian> How do I delete a flie from paste.ubuntu.com?  Thanks
[23:11] <IdleOne> foobarian: you can't. In very special cases the admins will do it but you need to email them rt AT ubuntu.com
[23:16] <Costeelation_> how can i associate all file types with firefox? i hate download files, i only want open it but i have that search for the aplications
[23:18] <foobarian> IdleOne: Thanks.  Bootrepair automatically posted my data to paste.ubuntu.com without any notification or my authorization.  The developer really needs to review Linux philosophy.
[23:19] <IdleOne> foobarian: the bootrepair script is meant to do that and return the url to you so you can paste it. there is no sensitive info in that paste.
[23:20] <IdleOne> you might as well not bother emailing the admins, they won't bother with that.
[23:23] <Eredien> Hello, I am in grub rescue mode and am having trouble using the search and set procedure as descd in: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting#Search_.26_Set
[23:24] <ikonia> Eredien: what do you want to do ?
[23:25] <Eredien> I want to ultimately reinstall ubuntu from the live usb I made but right now when I turn on my computer it boots to the grub rescue mode so right now I am trying to find out where the grub.cfg files are and other core os files but they appear to be missing ?
[23:26] <ikonia> Eredien: ok, so why are you looking for these files if you want to re-install, just re-install and they will get re-created
[23:26] <Eredien> The computer won't boot; not into anything but a grub rescue prompt. It won't boot from live usb
[23:27] <ikonia> Eredien: so that suggests your liveusb is not created correctly
[23:27] <ikonia> focus on fixuing that
[23:27] <Eredien> I made it today from the instructions on the ubuntu website with pendrive
[23:28] <ikonia> Eredien: ok, so look at the facts, you've made a usb drive, and it won't boot
[23:28] <ikonia> Eredien: either a.) you made it wrong b.) your system doesn't support booting from usb c.) your pen drive is broken
[23:28] <f0urtyfive> is there any way I can see if a specific commit was included in the latest ubuntu kernel, or if I need to roll my own?
[23:28] <f0urtyfive> specifically  58b2939b4d5a030eaec469d29812ab8477ee7e76
[23:28] <ikonia> Eredien: which is the more likely
[23:28] <styles> My installation is screwed up. I reinstalled AMD drivers (from their site) and then the top and side bar are completely missing. I've tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop, no luck.
[23:28] <ikonia> f0urtyfive: it won't work like that as the ubuntu kenrnels are patched
[23:29] <Eredien> Okay, I get it, but what I am saying is that this computer used to have ubuntu on it then one day it just booted only to the grub rescue prompt and that's all it does. When I run ls it looks like the files are there but the os can't find 'em
[23:29] <ikonia> f0urtyfive: it's base version + patches
[23:29] <ikonia> Eredien: that has nothing to do with your usb - fix your usb boot
[23:29] <f0urtyfive> ikonia: is their an ubuntu git that has the source for the current kernel so I could check myself?
[23:30] <ikonia> f0urtyfive: no
[23:30] <ikonia> f0urtyfive: and as I've just said - it doesn't work like that
[23:30] <ikonia> f0urtyfive: pick the version ubuntu ships with, check it against the main line - don't worry about the patches
[23:30] <ikonia> (being realistic)
[23:30] <Eredien> this is without the usb in; when I put the usb in all that happens is a new hd and partition show up when I do ls on the hd at the rescue prompt
[23:31] <ikonia> Eredien: so ?
[23:31] <f0urtyfive> ikonia: ok, will have to wait for this box to finish updating then check the source package for the 1 line I want :P
[23:31] <Eredien> and it doesn't recognize the filesystem on any of the hd partitions except the hd that is already there (sans live usb)
[23:32] <ikonia> Eredien: again so ?? what has this got to do with booting your livecd
[23:33] <Eredien> What I am trying to say is that the liveusb isn't recognized when I plug it in and it has nothing to do with the liveusb working or not since it boots fine on the windows machine I made it on
[23:33] <Eredien> I get the same grub rescue prompt whether the live usb is in or not
[23:33] <ikonia> Eredien: right, so think it through,
[23:33] <ikonia> Eredien: that suggests it's not trying to boot from usb
[23:34] <ikonia> Eredien: so that goes back to the 3 points I gave you earlier
[23:34] <ikonia> Eredien: 1.) you didn't make the usb properly 2.) your machine doesn't support booting from usb 3.) your usb disk is faulty
[23:35] <Eredien> I'm happy to get another usb stick and try again with pen drive but like you said, it's not trying to boot from usb in the first place, all it's doing is recognizing another hd partition. How is making another pen drive going to help since it won't recognize usb at all since all the grub etc. files are missing or corrupted?
[23:36] <ikonia> Eredien: READ what I said
[23:36] <ikonia> Eredien: which of those situations is more realistic
[23:36] <ikonia> Eredien: you know the pendrive is good as it boots on another machine, so you can have confidence in 1.) and 3.) being "ok" so what does that leave
[23:37] <foobarian> IdleOne: I disagree.  It is my information and was posted publicly without my permission. This is a fundamental violation of the philosophy of Free Software.  If this is acceptable then why not send other information from users computers to any company willing to pay? to
[23:37] <ikonia> f0urtyfive: it's nothing to do with free software philosophy
[23:37] <Eredien> It's an eee, with no cd drive, how am I supposed to reinstall if it won't support booting from usb?
[23:37] <ikonia> f0urtyfive: no where in free software philosophy does it say "data shouldn't be posted publicly"
[23:37] <f0urtyfive> ikonia: >_>
[23:38] <ikonia> foobarian: is there anything confidential in the post, yes/no
[23:38] <ikonia> f0urtyfive: oops, foobarian was the target
[23:38] <ikonia> sorry
[23:39] <foobarian> ikonia: All of the information is my private property.
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> foobarian, You can turn off the public post of the boot repair on the app.
[23:39] <ikonia> foobarian: is there anything confidential in the post, yes/no
[23:40] <foobarian> wilee-nilee: This is correct but boot-repair should notify the user BEFORE posting the information!
[23:40] <ikonia> foobarian: is there anything confidential in the post, yes/no
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> foobarian, Can I suggest you cut the prozacs in half. ;)
[23:41] <Eredien> ikonia: all it has is usb ports. No cd. So since the SSD won't boot right, is this really bricked?
[23:42] <ikonia> Eredien: no - please read what I'm saying
[23:42] <foobarian> wilee-nilee: ha ha ha.  I guess ad-hominim is the best you can do.
[23:42] <IdleOne> foobarian: I understand your point and if you are that concerned you may want to contact the maintainers of bootrepair. I am just giving you the info I know from experience, won't hurt you to email the paste bin admins. I just don't think they will bother to remove it unless the is sensitive/confidential info.
[23:43] <Eredien> Okay, you are suggestion #2 as the option that it won't boot from USB and I agree with you, but I don't know what to do as all I have are USB ports to try and reinstall the os
[23:43] <IdleOne> foobarian: any further discussion about this is off topic for this channel.
[23:43] <ikonia> Eredien: ok - so you've accepted 2.) as the likely reason. Should your system support boot from USB by design ?
[23:44] <Eredien> Yes. I have booted from usb before. In the BIOS removable media is listed as the first boot check option
[23:44] <ikonia> Eredien: ok, so it "should" boot from usb media, and we know the media is good as you've tested it on other machines
[23:45] <Eredien> Sure
[23:45] <ikonia> Eredien: that leaves us to 1.) a hardware problem on your machine 2.) a configuration problem on your machine/bios
[23:45] <ikonia> Eredien: so now you've narrowed it down to the real issue
[23:48] <Eredien> I *think* it is a configuration problem due to the fact that I am having trouble finding where the grub files are once it boots into rescue mode, it looks like some of the other files (initrd.img for instance) are still there on the partition
[23:48] <ikonia> Eredien: NO !
[23:48] <Eredien> No, ok
[23:48] <ikonia> Eredien: grub is nothing to do with your hardware/bios
[23:49] <ikonia> Eredien: forget grub - your machine is broke, you want to re-install, your proven install media isn't working
[23:49] <ikonia> that tells us there is a configure/fault with your hardware
[23:49] <ikonia> fix it before moving forward
[23:49] <Eredien> Thank you.
[23:50] <Litepool> anyone good with mysql? i made a symbolic link and apparmour don't liike it
[23:50] <ikonia> Litepool: update the apparmour rule
[23:51] <Litepool> ikonia what sort of update do i do, never touched apparmour before
[23:51] <ikonia> Litepool: why do you think the issue is apparmour rule ?
[23:52] <Litepool> ikonia, folks at #mysql sent me here telling me they positive it is apparmour rule
[23:52] <ikonia> Litepool: "why"
[23:52] <Litepool> i followed this guide ikonia http://www.webhostrepo.com/blog/how_to_change_mysql_data_directory/
[23:52] <ikonia> ok, just read the scroll back in #mysql
[23:53] <ikonia> Litepool: why are you changing the data directories ?
[23:53] <Litepool> i setup an ssd
[23:53] <Litepool> for my db
[23:53] <Litepool> i really need my database back up and running, as its crucial
[23:53] <Litepool> instead of reinstalling i just did this
[23:53] <ikonia> you don't need to re-install
[23:53] <Litepool> for the quickest way of migrating
[23:53] <ikonia> why are you moving this data ???
[23:54] <ikonia> that guide is terrible
[23:54] <Litepool> my old hd can't handle the writes
[23:54] <Litepool> i know i read the comment
[23:54] <ikonia> really ??? how many read/write operations are you getting ?
[23:54] <Litepool> well il explain sometime if it isn't relevant
[23:54] <Litepool> really need this db up
[23:55] <ikonia> Litepool: I would suggest putting it back to normal first of all
[23:55] <ikonia> undo what you've done
[23:55] <ikonia> then move it properly
[23:55] <Litepool> i can undo it easily
[23:55] <ikonia> that way your database is up
[23:55] <Litepool> however, i don't want another downtime
[23:55] <ikonia> it's down already....
[23:55] <ikonia> so get it back up
[23:55] <ikonia> undo it
[23:55] <Litepool> so while its down i want to fix it
[23:55] <Litepool> i run a mining pool
[23:55] <Litepool> people can't keep connecting
[23:56] <Litepool> its bad for there hardware
[23:56] <ejv> you need some replication / failover sounds like, so downtown doesn't affect you
[23:56] <ikonia> then you should have an idea what you are doing and how to manage this
[23:56] <ejv> errr downtime*
[23:56] <ikonia> you can't approach this issue like thia
[23:56] <Litepool> well i didn't really expect it to happen, ufcourse i can put it back up
[23:56] <ikonia> and you shouldn't be following random guides off the web
[23:56] <Litepool> i didn't delete the /var/lib/mysql, i renamed it
[23:56] <Litepool> after syncing
[23:56] <Litepool> easy to bring it back up
[23:57] <Litepool> ikonia, what do you have in mind>?
[23:57] <epimeth> hi guys... My rub got fubar upgrading from LTS to whatever the next version was... 12.04 maybe?  I set prefix to (blabla)/boot/grub/i36-pc and insmod linux but get error: symbol not found: 'grub_realidt'
[23:57] <ikonia> Litepool: what do you mean ?
[23:57] <epimeth> s/rub/grub
[23:58] <Litepool> ikonia, i don't know i thought you had a suggestion
[23:58] <Litepool> ?
[23:58] <ikonia> Litepool: I'd get the box back up, then actually analyise the problem, and come up with a real solution, rather than then buying an SSD and following a random guide off the web
[23:59] <ikonia> if your writes are as high as you are suggesting where a normal disk can't actually keep up - then you'll blow that SSD away rather quickly