[02:27] <cb2> what are people using for xubuntu irc client?
[02:36] <dunpeal> irssi
[02:36] <dunpeal> the original and best.
[02:36] <holstein> too late
[02:40] <sp00ky> how can I edit an application shortcut in xfce?
[02:54] <sp00ky> okay, scratch that last question...
[02:54] <sp00ky> how do I resolve a public for apt?
[02:55] <Noskcaj> sp00ky, If you don't get an answer here, all the non-xfce questions can get answered in #ubuntu
[02:57] <sp00ky> Noskcaj, cool, thank you
[03:21] <stacy> can i dual run windows and xubuntu?
[03:21] <holstein> !dualboot
[03:21] <stacy> thanks~
[03:22] <holstein> stacy: sure.. i would make backups before doing anything
[03:23] <w30> j #bodhilinux
[03:23] <Unit193> /
[03:30] <cb_> list
[03:31] <xubuntu883> what do i do after i finish torrenting
[03:32] <holstein> xubuntu883: torrenting what?
[03:32] <xubuntu883> torrenting the download file?
[03:33] <Unit193> !install
[03:34] <xubuntu883> thank you
[03:44] <Thomas24> Hello, how long does xunbuntu takes to be install
[03:44] <holstein> Thomas24: depends.. should take 8 to 30 minutes
[03:45] <Thomas24> I'm installing it, it taking so long ..
[03:45] <Thomas24> It's stuck on the page showing me the interface, and saying Installation..
[03:45] <holstein> what interface?
[03:46] <Thomas24> The one of xubuntu when it's installing
[03:46] <Thomas24> Ho it's done :)
[04:43] <xubuntu710> bonjour
[05:30] <nasir> i am learning python programming. which python compiler can i use.
[05:31] <cfhowlett> nasir, ask in #python?
[05:31] <nasir> thanks
[11:44] <nasir> help. my vlc freezes in fullscreen
[14:49] <canadatechi3> How do I join my machine to a windows domain?
[15:22] <lderan> canadatechi3: is this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto what you are after
[15:59] <xubuntu116> Hello. I am a new user with very little experience in the behind the scenes work of operating systems
[15:59] <xubuntu116> we are using a virtual client of Xubuntu to run an integrated  library system
[16:00] <xubuntu116> We have found that configuring printers has been an issue for us
[16:01] <xubuntu116> we are currently using the citizen c300 receipt printer, and are having some issues getting it configured
[18:29] <[0gb_us]> Xubuntu 13.04 has several issues, so I'm reinstalling 12.04 on my other computer from the mini.iso CD. However, the CD is failing to download GRUB. It is connected to te network, as it was installing other packages before that. Is there something I can try?
[18:30] <dverg> hi, i'm stuck with an odd problem. i installed gnome-sudoku, and every time i start it the width of the window is wider than my display. I can change the height, but i cannot narrow the window, only make it even wider.
[18:31] <Sysi> dverg: how small display do you have?
[18:31] <Sysi> can you maximize the window?
[18:32] <recon_lap> whats the deal with 0gb_us as a user name? dont seem to be able to tab complete it!
[18:32] <[0gb_us]> It starts with a square bracket.
[18:32] <[0gb_us]> [
[18:32] <recon_lap> dverg: right click on the title bar and select resize
[18:32] <Sysi> irssi tabcompletes [0gb_us] just fine
[18:33] <[0gb_us]> I'd drop the brackets, but without them, IRC won't let me begin my name with a digit.
[18:34] <recon_lap> lol, My brain just filtered out the brackets, to much programming I guess
[18:34] <[0gb_us]> Ha ha, yeah.
[18:35] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: i was going to suggest you check your sources list on the install media to see what repo it's using
[18:35] <[0gb_us]> recon_lap, ow do I do that?
[18:35] <recon_lap> /etc/apt-get/source.lst i think
[18:36] <dverg_> the display is 1042x768 and i can maximize, but than some part is still outside the display
[18:36] <dverg_> sry, had a disconnect
[18:37] <recon_lap> dverg_: sounds like you screen size is set larger than your computers actual resolution
[18:37] <[0gb_us]> I can't find that directory on the iso.
[18:37] <Sysi> /etc/apt/sources.list but I'm not sure what would the installer use
[18:39] <dverg_> i have this problem only with the one prgramm , everything else works fine
[18:39] <Sysi> I guess gnome-sudoku has minimum size hardcoded, you need to try some other sudoku app
[18:42] <dverg_> i have this problem with gnome-sudoke since i use xubuntu 13.04 on 12.04 sudoku had also a minimum window width, but much more narrow
[18:43] <[0gb_us]> It seems that the ubuntu.com server(s) is/are down. Maybe GRUB is on the down server, and the other packages are on other servers.
[18:45] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: what server is it using?
[18:45] <Sysi> with expertmode you can select what mirror to use
[18:46] <[0gb_us]> I think it's us.archives.ubuntu.com.
[18:46] <recon_lap> I think there where problems with GRUB when 12.04 came out, the repo's might have been changed
[18:48] <[0gb_us]> I'll try the Canadian mirror. Other than that, I don't know what to do if the mini.iso doesn't use the right servers. I don't have a spare DVD right now, and the regular Xubuntu installer won't fit on a CD.
[18:48] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: just did a apt-get update , got no errors
[18:48] <[0gb_us]> From a working system though.
[18:49] <[0gb_us]> This is a blank drive using the mini.iso.
[18:49] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: thats why i was asking what the repo address is, so I can see if it is online and contains grub
[18:49] <[0gb_us]> I don't know how to tell unless it's the chosen download mirror, which is us.archive.ubuntu.com.
[18:50] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: that would be it
[18:51] <[0gb_us]> I'll ping it from the other computer.
[18:52] <[0gb_us]> It says it's up. Though the browser won't go there, so I guess there's no HTTP service right now.
[18:52] <krytarik> Well, I get there.
[18:53] <[0gb_us]> Oops, the browser switched to HTTPS on me ...
[18:53] <[0gb_us]> Okay, I'm there, though I don't know what to look for.
[18:54] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: so you got a error about downloading grub, did it continue installing?
[18:54] <[0gb_us]> Also, both the Canadian and Mexican mirrors are said to be invalid by the installer.
[18:54] <[0gb_us]> No, the installer stops when it can't download GRUB.
[18:55] <[0gb_us]> It allows me to retry or go back to past installation steps.
[18:56] <[0gb_us]> It also says I can skip installing GRUB but that if I do, the computer won't boot.
[18:56] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: there is a solution to that, you can boot from the live CD and install GRUB manually
[18:57] <[0gb_us]> The live CD won't fit on a CD and I lack a DVD at the moment.
[18:57] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: can you boot from the CD? you should be able to get a command line at least
[18:58] <[0gb_us]> Booting from the mini CD gives me the installer. Booting from the live CD isn't possible without a DVD to burn it to as it has a lot of packages and won't fit on a CD.
[19:00] <Sysi> can you get to the instalaltion menu? select cancel or something with tab
[19:00] <Sysi> there's "change debconf priprity"
[19:01] <Sysi> if you set that to low you should get mirror selection in some other menu item
[19:01] <[0gb_us]> Okay, aborted. It's reloading the CD now.
[19:01] <Sysi> it's the same as selecting expert mode when booting
[19:01] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: There is probably a way, just need to figure out the magic command :)
[19:01] <[0gb_us]> "Command-line install"?
[19:02] <Sysi> no "Expert install" or "Expert mode"
[19:02] <[0gb_us]> The only command-line option.
[19:02] <[0gb_us]> "Advanced options >"?
[19:02] <Sysi> might be under that
[19:02] <[0gb_us]> The only other two are "Install" and "Help".
[19:03] <[0gb_us]> Okay, it's a sub-menu. "Expert install" is here.
[19:04] <[0gb_us]> What do I do from here?
[19:04] <recon_lap> what bring up the boot menu in 12.04 when it's booting, f2? f6?
[19:04] <[0gb_us]> I don't know. I've never brought that up.
[19:06] <[0gb_us]> Neither key does anything.
[19:07] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: you have to press it when GRUB is loading from the CD as it's booting. but never used a mini-cd so not sure
[19:08] <[0gb_us]> Hmm. I don't know. I'll reboot it and try.
[19:08] <Sysi> doesn't matter, just select good mirror in the expert install
[19:08] <[0gb_us]> Oops, I got to hardware bios with F2.
[19:08] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: Sysi's suggestion seems good, do we know of a good mirror ?
[19:10] <[0gb_us]> us.archive.ubuntu.com seems good exapt for GRUB. ca.archive.ubuntu.co and mx.archive.ubuntu.com are said by the installer to be bad.
[19:10] <[0gb_us]> I don't know other than that. I could keep trying mirrors.
[19:11] <Sysi> I'm starting to doubt your install CD, would be quite something to have three mirros dysdunctional
[19:11] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: I think the problem is that grub got changed after 12.04 can out and old installers are not configured with the new grub setup
[19:11] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: so all mirrors probably going to cause the same problem
[19:12] <recon_lap> can out/came out*
[19:12] <[0gb_us]> I see. So either the CD is dysfunctional and needs to be redownloaded and burnt or it is mis-configured.
[19:12] <Sysi> if some installer was broken it should've been fixed (unless it's very recent)
[19:13] <Sysi> [0gb_us]: usb isn't option?
[19:14] <[0gb_us]> My only USB drive that I know where it is has data I can't lose on it. If there is a way to set that up without losing the drive's contents, that might work. Though I've never booted this computer from USB, I don't know if it has that option.
[19:18] <recon_lap>  [0gb_us] do you get a prompt at any stage of booting?
[19:19] <[0gb_us]> No prompt until the installer menu. On my laptop I get the bios prompt, but not on the desktop.
[19:21] <Sysi> you don't need to press anything to get to the menu with mini.iso
[19:22] <[0gb_us]> Okay, so the menu I see is the right one?
[19:48] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: you get anywhere?
[19:50] <[0gb_us]> No, I'm still in the same place. THough I'm researching the "alternate CD" in hopes that it holds the answer.
[19:52] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: so you have no way to boot from the live CD, I find that hard to believe. there must be a way to the cli
[19:52] <[0gb_us]> I can boot from the mini CD, but the live CD is not a CD - it's a DVD. There in lies the issue.
[19:53] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: but can you boot to a cli from the mini CD
[19:53] <Sysi> it's quite restricted and if mini doesn't contain grub files it won't even help
[19:53] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: if not, it's a big feature that was overlooked
[19:54] <[0gb_us]> These are two options for installing via the command line, but no other options to open the command line.
[19:54] <recon_lap> Sysi: install without grub, boot from mini cd to cli, install grub $sudo  grub-install  --boot-directory=/mnt/boot    /dev/sdX   
[19:54] <Sysi> actually installing command line system means just that you don't install xubuntu desktop
[19:55] <Sysi> recon_lap: does. not. help. if. there. is. no. grub. to . install
[19:57] <recon_lap> apt get the correct version first
[19:58] <Sysi> hmm, using chroot and running apt from the installed system might work
[19:59] <[0gb_us]> Exept that I can't get to the installed system, only the live one.
[20:00] <[0gb_us]> NickServ is going to log me out here.
[20:01] <Sysi> that's why I said chroot, running from cd doesn't restrict from using the system on harddrive
[20:01] <Guest60110> I see.
[20:01] <Sysi> doesn't mini cd have the option to boot from harddrive?
[20:01] <Guest60110> No, it doesn't.
[20:01] <Sysi> hum, I think it should
[20:03] <recon_lap> dont know much about chroot myself, hardly ever used it
[20:05] <recon_lap> but we cant get to a cli from the mini cd, so not really progressing
[20:07] <Sysi> you can press ctrl alt F1 at any point of installation to get tty
[20:07] <[0gb_us]> That key combination is having no effect.
[20:08] <[0gb_us]> It works on my laptop, but not on this mini CD.
[20:09] <Sysi> it doesn't work on the startup menu
[20:09] <recon_lap> probably a GUI key combo
[20:10] <Sysi> ctrl alt f2 maybe if tty1 is reserved
[20:10] <[0gb_us]> Probably. I'll start the installer though and try the key combination again to be sure.
[20:10] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: also try pressing del and esc , see if you can get a grub menu
[20:10] <Sysi> tty4 should have installation status/progress list
[20:10] <Sysi> I think it's shift
[20:10] <[0gb_us]> Okay, yeah, it looks like tty1 is in use by the installer, but tty2 is open.
[20:12] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: well that could work, wonder if you have a net connection now , lol
[20:13] <[0gb_us]> No, it doesn't know what connection to use untill later in the instalation proccess. Unless there is a way to tell it via the command line.
[20:15] <[0gb_us]> It seems there is no apt-get anyway.
[20:17] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: you need to install without grub first, then you can chroot and run it off the hard drive
[20:17] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: after you boot from the mini-cd and get a tty
[20:17] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: all very hopeful though
[20:17] <Sysi> actually you don't need chroot for running it but to make it work
[20:17] <Sysi> start chroot and run apt with absolute path
[20:17] <[0gb_us]> Okay. So install, skip installing GRUB, then load the CD again? Doing ...
[20:17] <genii> If minimal or server iso then usually console 1  is active, then console 2,3 you can start busybox and console 4 is the output of console 1
[20:18] <Sysi> if you already did the installation, no need to redo it
[20:18] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: ctrl alt f2 to get a tty console (cli in other words)
[20:19] <[0gb_us]> When I canceled the installation, the installer said the system would be left in an unusable state.
[20:20] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: you have to finish the install. so reinstall from start
[20:20] <Sysi> well it didn't boot
[20:20] <Sysi> though it might have left some step out if you didn't finish the installation
[20:20] <[0gb_us]> It also didn't finish some of the other parts of the installation. Namely, anything installed after GRUB.
[20:22] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: can you give me the exact name of the grub package it failed to find?
[20:24] <[0gb_us]> I forger what it was called. It failed to download six files, then said grub-<something> couldn't be installed. I'll check the name of it once the installer gets to that point again.
[20:44] <[0gb_us]> The installer seems to have locked up this time. Restarting.
[20:49] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: thats not good. maybe a trip to a web cafe with a blank dvd :)
[20:50] <[0gb_us]> I don't have a DVD, only a stack of CDs.
[20:50] <[0gb_us]> I have a network connection here though on the other computer.
[21:31] <recon_lap> sry, my IRC had a freek out for about 10min there :)
[21:31] <Unit193> recon_lap: There's been a lot of netsplits, not just you.
[21:32] <recon_lap> nope, I was in some sort of IRC netsplit death spiral
[21:32] <recon_lap> had to reconnect
[21:33] <recon_lap> being in a room with 1000 other people and no one talking for 5 min, something badly wrong there
[21:57] <[0gb_us]> WHat the heck? Now the mini.iso CD successfully installed the system. Not that I'm complaining. Maybe the CD had a smudge on it or something ....
[21:57] <[0gb_us]> Thanks for the help, recon_lap and Sysi!
[21:58] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: it sort of a love/hate thing when it just starts working and you dont know why
[21:58] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: have you rebooted ?
[22:00] <[0gb_us]> Rebooted into the system? Yes. I'm logging in to set up the user accounts now.
[22:04] <recon_lap> [0gb_us]: well seems you are good to go.
[22:05] <[0gb_us]> Yeah. Thanks!
[22:19] <lesbianGreen> hi guys, i got a minor problem. My external Usbdrive is fighting against ejection and unmounting. When I open up the terminal and type: "sudo umount /dev/sdX" I get this error message: MyUSBdrive is busy". When I check which process is stalling my wish to eject is the "sleep" and "xdg-scree" (screensaver, i guess). How can i fix this?
[22:19] <holstein> lesbianGreen: i would test it, and go from there
[22:20] <lesbianGreen> what do you mean by test it?
[22:20] <lesbianGreen> I'm new to linux and so I don't know that much :/
[22:21] <holstein> lesbianGreen: you should be able to mount it in the filemanager
[22:21] <holstein> lesbianGreen: what happends when you open the filemanager, plug it in, and unmount it from the filmenager?
[22:24] <lesbianGreen> the mounting is not the problem, i can see all my data and copy whatever i want. The Problem is the Ejecting/Unmounting. Even Using the right click in the file manager says: Volume is busy and it shows the sleep process (sleep 50, but i don't have a clou what's that) and the Bourne Shell (some screensaver stuff).
[22:25] <holstein> lesbianGreen: and, what about when you plug it in and literally dont do anything else? and use the filemanager?
[22:25] <lesbianGreen> then, everything is fine, but after copying any data I'm confronted with this problem
[22:25] <lillen> I would like to add my xubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso as an apt-repository. Is there a good way to do this? Thanks a million!
[22:26] <holstein> lesbianGreen: *dont* copy data. just plug it in, mount it, and remove it
[22:26] <holstein> does that happen cleanly?
[22:30] <brainwash> lillen: take a look at "apt-cdrom"
[22:31] <David-A> lillen: or look for System>Software Sources>Other Software>Add CD-ROM
[23:54] <xubuntu144> hi!