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ctcbHi all...02:59
pittiGood morning03:10
mfischhey mhall119 you around?03:15
mhall119what's up?03:15
mfischmhall119: I was looking at the popcon merge, is the server still non-functional?03:16
mhall119mfisch: if you look at the table at the bottom of http://popcon.ubuntu.com/03:19
mhall119there are non-architectures in the architectures statistics03:19
mfischlike dpkg03:19
mfischand "Here" ;)03:19
mhall119I have 1.21 GHz Here processor :)03:20
mfischokay, but it's not 100% non-functional, just a bit screwed up03:20
mhall119I think so, I'm not to familiar with what is supposed to be there03:20
mfischI'll test out the new version03:20
mhall119but pabs from debian pings me about it, because evidently they use the data for something03:20
mfischI think it reports 1 extra field and so I'll see what happens when I use it03:20
mhall119hey mfisch, I may need to write an online-accounts provider in the next couple weeks, can I ping you if I need help?03:23
mfischsure, but I Think cwayne did that not me03:24
mfischfor fitbit03:24
mhall119I thought you guys did it together03:24
mfischhe did the accounts thingy and I wrote the piece that used it03:24
mhall119ah, ok03:24
mfischbut its part of our team charter to support stuff like that so please ping us03:24
* mhall119 goes to work for lead developer cwayne03:24
mfischoh hey mhall119 when is the dash going to work on the phone?03:25
mhall119it does, kinda03:25
mhall119search on the Home lens is disabled intentionally, I was told, because it'd be too slow right now if you tried to use it on a device03:25
mhall119Saviq can tell you more though03:26
mfischmhall119: how can I tell that pop-con uploaded successfully?03:28
mfischdo you have logs there or would there be an obvious failure03:28
mhall119I have no idea, sorry03:28
mhall119mfisch: man, I make a personal introduction and he sends you to a mailing list, that's cold03:33
mfischyeah, oh well ;)03:33
mfischThis feature was "Suggested by Paul Wise."03:34
mfischI just want to make sure it doesn't break your server03:34
mhall119my server?03:35
mfischI mean popcon.ubuntu.com03:35
mhall119ah, ok03:35
mhall119really, I only cared about it because folks in debian did03:36
mhall119and I was working to help them03:36
mfischwell I told seb that I didn't want to merge this until I knew it was safe03:36
mfischbut it's becoming more trouble that it's probably worth03:36
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didrocksgood morning05:06
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Mirvdidrocks: I added a new item to our task list, a largish precise SRU needed05:43
didrocksMirv: excellent, do you have time to handle it or need someone else to do it?05:44
Mirvdidrocks: I'm trying to handle it to an extend today/tomorrow, but whatever is left undone will need to be handled by eg. sil2100 then05:45
Mirvdidrocks: I'm again in a situation that I've tons of stuff to do, and I'm unsure of the ordering :)05:45
Mirvdidrocks: in good news, I solved armhf build failures with switchin to g++-4.7 for armhf temporarily05:45
Mirvdidrocks: so qtwebkit is ready to upload (soon, with mitya57's changes merged)05:46
Mirvdidrocks: and I should ping you about Qt Creator as well (hey I just did that), it should be ready for your eyes as well05:46
Mirvsince it also failed on armhf, but succeeded now during the night with g++-4.705:46
didrocksMirv: ah, great! please copy the link in the spreadsheet :)05:46
didrocksMirv: can you quiclky do (it should take few minutes) the publication of the day for your stacks?05:47
didrocksso that it's in latest phone imag?05:47
Mirvdidrocks: ah yes that, doing that now, then trying to put all the needed links and branches in and then I'll ping you again, and then continue with the precise SRU05:47
didrocksMirv: perfect, thanks!05:49
* didrocks cleans the spreadsheet at the same time05:49
Mirvdidrocks: as platform is in manual publishing mode, I'd need an ack from you for that. the packaging changes seem fine for me. location-service change was done by you so I guess that's an 'ack', and then there's powerd.05:51
didrocksMirv: indeed, I did that change, so I can only +1 I think :p powerd is looking good (less hacks \o/)05:52
didrocksMirv: can you send an email then to the SRU team for the xim support in precise? I think they would prefer to open the discussion before the raring upload05:54
Mirvstacks published05:58
Mirvdidrocks: ok05:58
didrocksMirv: thanks!05:59
* didrocks is handling the raring SRU quickly05:59
veebersdidrocks: ping06:25
didrocksveebers: pong06:25
veebersdidrocks: how's things going? o/ Hey I'm interesting in using otto in a similar jenkins jobs setup to what the Unity autopilot or Autopilot daily jobs are doing to replace an old non-working job of mine06:26
veebersdidrocks: I'm hoping you can point me in the right direction06:26
veebersdidrocks: specifically the job should grab an unity branch, build the packages and install them then run the unity autopilot tests over them (where the branch that is built and installed is a parameter)06:26
veebersdidrocks: although, initially the branch doesn't have to be a param, I can hardcode it as I'm more interested in the one off right now06:27
didrocksveebers: what are you trying to do with this? I'm wondering why we would need to yet build another time the same sources we have instead of using validated version?06:28
veebersdidrocks: the reason is I had this job [1] that built a 'custom' version of unity so that a developer could test their changes. (
veebersbut It's been unmaintained and so doesn't work at the moment06:29
didrocksveebers: shouldn't that rather be a feature branch?06:29
didrocksveebers: and so having daily release to a ppa and so on06:30
didrocksI'm afraid that we have: 1. too many ppas and people are lost in versions06:30
didrocks2. too many methods to build sources and packages06:30
didrocks(mir itself has 3 different ways to build itself used by upstream, 2 of them being hackish script and demanding updating the build-deps in various places)06:30
veebersdidrocks: this one instance is a developer want's to test his changes before proposing a MP06:30
didrocksveebers: I would say then, for building, it would be better to use something similar than the upstream merger06:31
didrocksthen, grab the deb, create a local repo06:31
didrocksand using that with an otto job that is similar to ours06:31
didrocksMirv: I think you didn't update the version on debian/changelog compared to the tarball, right? Trying that06:32
veebersdidrocks: sure alright makes sense. Can you link me to where I can see/learn about the otto job so that I can steal err borrow it's config?06:32
didrocksMirv: hum, the patches are then rejected, are you sure you pushed your qtpim branch to latest?06:33
didrocksveebers: oh, sure, look at
didrocksveebers: and tell me if anything doesn't make sense :)06:33
didrocksthe runs are tagged with stacks it's built06:33
didrocksveebers: and you can see, almost no red in the runs! :-)06:34
veebersdidrocks: awesome cheers, I've just been called to tea but will be back to probably ask more questions :-)06:34
didrocksveebers: and the red are missing package in list, so wanted failures ;)06:34
didrocksveebers: enjoy your tea!06:34
Mirvdidrocks: just a moment06:42
Mirvdidrocks: hey, some push is very much missing, yes06:42
didrocksMirv: thx06:43
Mirvdidrocks: ok, qtpim pushed again06:43
didrockswill review :)06:43
Mirvdidrocks: the licenses went upstream so that patch was removed then06:43
didrocksexcellent :)06:43
Mirvdidrocks: Qt Creator links in the spreadsheet now06:46
Mirvthat's a big one06:47
MirvI'll have the qtwebkit saucy update later today06:47
didrockssponsoring day for me I guess :)06:48
didrocksMirv: qtpim sponsored06:56
Mirvnice, I'll let Bill and Renato know06:57
didrocksqtcreator now06:57
didrocksMirv: the plugins for qtcreator are still as distro patch in the branch, right?06:59
veebersdidrocks: uh, first silly question; What does `$HOME/bin/run_otto_job` expand to so I can see the script?07:00
didrocksveebers: it's just in the otto source (see the jenkins/ directory)07:02
veebersdidrocks: ah ok, cheers07:02
didrocksyw ;)07:02
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Mirvdidrocks: yes, still like that, the qtcreator-dev is not here yet07:05
rickspencer3woah, lots of new desktop stuff today07:06
didrockshey rickspencer3!07:07
rickspencer3ey didrocks07:07
rickspencer3no, I'm not hear to harp on daily quality ;)07:07
didrocksMirv: heh :)07:08
didrocksrickspencer3: you don't need to ;)07:09
jibelgood morning07:09
didrocksMirv: hum, you added a build-dep on libqt5-help507:09
rickspencer3hi jibel07:09
didrocksMirv: in the end, we have twice this build-deps now, can you remove one please?07:09
didrockshey jibel!07:09
jibelHi rickspencer307:09
jibelbonjour didrocks07:09
Mirvdidrocks: removed and pushed07:11
didrocksMirv: thanks!07:11
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didrocksMirv: hum, I'm seeing on one patch:07:28
didrocksrev 7507:28
didrocksthat doesn't seem scalable and adapting to other env, do you have some background on that?07:28
Mirvdidrocks: it's on the device, I'd think. ie commands run there07:28
Mirvand there the home dir is that always07:28
didrocksMirv: yeah, that's a pity it's harcoded, I think one day, we have the potential to change the name07:29
Mirvyep, it even runs the app on device for you07:29
didrocksMirv: mind putting something on the top description of the patch?07:29
didrocksso that if one day we change the user07:29
didrockswe can find that more easily :)07:29
Mirvdidrocks: added and pushed07:31
didrockstrying building07:34
seb128hey desktopers07:37
didrockssalut seb128!07:37
seb128didrocks, lut ;-)07:38
tjaaltonis it known that U1 is broken on saucy?07:42
tjaaltonclient crashes with "ipcerror"07:42
tjaaltonfound it07:43
seb128tjaalton, that one is not known to me, it asserting due to the new python-configglue is known though07:45
seb128slangasek just uploaded a revert for that07:45
tjaaltonyeah that's the bug I found07:45
tjaaltonI'll check out the upload queue, thanks07:45
tjaaltonyep, fixed it for me too07:47
tjaaltonsyncing again, *phew*07:47
pittibonjour seb128 !07:48
seb128Laney, good morning, how are you?08:06
Laneyseb128: not bad thanks, got a working indicator-applet again!08:07
seb128Laney, I'm good thank08:08
seb128Laney, you should use unity!08:08
LaneyI do on my main machine :P08:08
Laneynot sure what would happen to my brain if my sexy xmonad configuration went away on the laptop08:10
didrockshey Laney!08:11
Laneygreetings didrocks!08:11
seb128sil2100, hey, how are you?08:35
seb128sil2100, I noticed that the indicator stack is not published yet, is there anything blocking it?08:36
sil2100seb128: looking, will need an packaging ACK08:39
sil2100seb128: just to be sure... google-mock 1.6.0+svn437 is available in distro?08:39
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seb128sil2100, euh, I can think about half a dozen way for you to get that information08:41
seb128sil2100, launchpad, apt, rmadison08:41
seb128$ rmadison -S google-mock -s saucy08:41
seb128google-mock | 1.6.0+svn437-0ubuntu1 |         saucy | source, amd64, armhf, i386, powerpc08:41
sil2100seb128: I was asking because apt says differently08:41
seb128use rmadison08:41
seb128that's checking at the source08:41
sil2100apt-cache policy google-mock08:41
sil2100 *** 1.6.0-0ubuntu3 008:41
seb128did you run apt-get update?08:42
sil2100Yes, just a moment ago08:42
seb128do you use the main archive or a mirror?08:42
sil2100http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ <- maybe that's why?08:42
seb128mirrors are often outdated08:42
sil2100Stupid polish mirror08:42
seb128in any case use rmadison when you need to know that08:42
sil2100Right, now I know it's more reliable ;) Anyway, I think it's ok for publishing, yes?08:43
seb128sil2100, also is there anything we can do have those easy diffs reviewed a bit earlier in the day so the update is available early for those who wait on it?08:43
seb128sil2100, seems ok to me yes ;-)08:43
sil2100seb128: I'll try to do that much earlier ;p I usually tend to wake up and start with what I didn't finish the last day08:44
sil2100While I probably should do the stacks first08:44
* didrocks really thinks that publication should be the first thing we do in the morning :)08:44
didrocksMirv: sil2100 ^08:44
didrocks(IIRC, I've repeated that a lot :p)08:44
sil2100didrocks: sorry guys ;p I know I know, it's just when you're irritated about something not working from yesterday, you want to fix it as soon as possible ;p08:45
didrocksMirv: qtcreator sponsored08:46
sil2100didrocks: just so you know - the Apps stack is blocked until Florian fixes the toolkit regression08:47
ubot2`Ubuntu bug 1199662 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "New easing causes animations not to reach their target values" [Critical,Confirmed]08:47
didrockssil2100: can we work with them to run some apps autopilot tests with their stack?08:48
didrockssil2100: to ensure they don't regress08:48
sil2100I guess, but changes like these should actually be tested by the UI toolkit, maybe unit-tested or something08:49
didrockssil2100: ah, not sure for that one in particular, but in general?08:49
sil2100Since sometimes, well, the UI toolkit changes something and breaks the Apps on purpose08:49
didrockssil2100: not the first time the toolkit is breaking apps08:49
sil2100This would maybe create a bit of a deadlock then08:49
didrockswell, they need to ensure that apps are adapted first08:50
didrocksif they don't want backward compatibility08:50
sil2100didrocks: I'll have a talk with kaleo and others today about that then, might be a good idea to have something more08:50
didrockssil2100: thanks!08:51
didrockssil2100: I'll add the missing autopilot tests today08:51
didrockssil2100: the remaining things to look for is unity, right?08:51
didrockssil2100: I've published the raring oif SRU (the libgrip fix) which was waiting for a week FYI08:51
sil2100didrocks: awesome, right - I forgot that now 'publishing' the raring stack means pushing to the SRU PPA ;/08:52
sil2100didrocks: thanks!08:52
sil2100didrocks: I already poked Wellark and waiting for him to pop up, also we need Ted to resolve unity issues08:53
didrockssil2100: yw ;)08:53
didrocksok, good!08:53
Laneymlankhorst: can you help find the right way to fix omap4 images please? :(08:54
LaneyI don't know where to add the reverted xorg08:55
mlankhorstLaney: erm what is the build recipe it is using atm?08:56
Laneywell part of my problem is that I'm not entirely sure which seeds it's using08:57
seb128ogra_ probably knows08:57
ogra_mlankhorst, whats the reason you didnt just add it as dependency to pvr ?08:58
Laneyit depends on the abi but nothing which provides that is pulled in08:58
mlankhorstlack of upload rights, I guess :)08:58
seb128Mirv, did you see my debug comment ont he qtsystems bug? can you fwd to the upstream tracker? (I don't have a login there)08:58
mlankhorstbut I'll make the change and then ask someone to sponsor it08:59
seb128Laney, we should just do what ogra suggests, add a direct depends on the server to pvr08:59
ogra_Laney, pvr just needs a dep added, you dont want to sered that package (that would break all other arm desktop installs since it uses the normal ubuntu-desktop seed08:59
xclaessewow, .cache/friends/avatars contains 12k files for almost 500Mb09:01
Laneymlankhorst: ogra_: like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5864264/ ?09:03
LaneyI'm curious as to where pvr-omap4 gets pulled in though09:03
ogra_Laney, perfect09:04
Laneyah via supported-hardware-desktop09:04
mlankhorstyeah something like that :)09:06
Mirvdidrocks: awesome! (qtcreator)09:06
mlankhorstactually the xserver-xorg-dev dependency could be dropped entirely afaict09:06
didrocksMirv: nice work!09:07
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Mirvseb128: I saw, I can mention it at the upstream tracker as well09:07
LaneyI'll leave it09:07
Laneydon't fancy doing another test build09:07
seb128Mirv, thanks09:10
didrockssil2100: ah great! so all the things I listed on column E9 are DONE (apart qtvideo-node)?10:00
didrockssil2100: btw: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/cupstream2distro-config/share-app/+merge/17414910:02
didrockssil2100: FYI, the thing that will never daily release, they need to be moved to "online" release (that we should "$ bzr mv online merge-only" I think)10:04
Laneyyay, sorting works10:29
seb128Laney, \o/10:32
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sil2100didrocks: yes10:52
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Mirv11 apport collection processes at the same time slows down machine a bit..11:14
didrockssil2100: I'm relaunching tha app stack for the tests only11:42
sil2100didrocks: ok, was the toolkit issue fixed or just to check shared-app?11:53
didrockssil2100: just to check share-app11:54
didrocksfor the toolkit and the new packages, I'll let you deal with those, right?11:54
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mlankhorstLaney: oh btw did adding that to powervr help?12:25
mlankhorsthm guess you didn't try12:25
Laneymlankhorst: we'll find out when the next image build happens tomorrow morning12:25
mlankhorstoh sure12:26
Mirvdidrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/ubuntu/saucy/qtwebkit-opensource-src/arm-fix-and-docs-packages/+merge/17418412:34
Mirvthat would be the webkit thing from mitya57, my arm fix and your ubuntu3 patch12:34
Mirvdidrocks: if you want, I could do one more PPA build for tomorrow. a 5.0.2 build finished successfully also for arm, but since the DPR is broken on 5.0.2 I asked mitya57 to do the docs thing for 5.0.1 and now the delta is smaller.. it does compile on amd64 and the g++-4.7 should take care of the ARM like it did now so far with Qt 5.1.0 and 5.0.212:35
didrocksMirv: yeah, that would appreciated :)12:38
didrocksthere is no urgency for today, right?12:38
Mirvdidrocks: ok. yeah no urgency.12:39
didrocksok :)12:39
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kenvandinesil2100, thanks for fixing the build failures in qtvideo-node13:49
sil2100kenvandine: no problem :)13:50
kenvandinesil2100, i merged the rest of my changes in my old failing branch into a new one that depends on your's13:50
sil2100kenvandine: hmmm! Since you're around!13:50
kenvandinecan you review?13:50
sil2100kenvandine: sure ;)13:50
sil2100kenvandine: could you tell me what's up with webaccounts-browser-extension ?13:50
kenvandinethe most important part is adding the check target, so it actually runs the tests :)13:50
kenvandinesil2100, yeah... we didn't want to autoland it without any integration tests13:50
sil2100kenvandine: any luck with that?13:51
kenvandinenot yet... i still need to figure out how to run otto and fix up those autopilot tests :)13:51
kenvandinedidrocks, got time to walk me through setting up otto?13:51
didrockskenvandine: we are going to write what it takes to set it up tomorrow on the phone, so maybe it will be a better time, wdyt?13:52
sil2100kenvandine: hmm, but I saw the unit-test being run during build I think13:52
didrockskenvandine: as I think you want first to install/run it on the phone?13:52
kenvandineit builds unittests13:53
kenvandinedoesn't run them13:53
sil2100make[3]: Wejście do katalogu `/opt/tmp/canonical/stacks/review/build-area/qtvideo-node-0.2.1daily13.06.07/unittests/shadervideonode'13:53
sil2100LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu${LD_LIBRARY_PATH:+:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH}  ./tst_shadervideonode13:53
sil2100********* Start testing of tst_ShaderVideoNode *********13:53
sil2100Config: Using QTest library 5.0.2, Qt 5.0.213:53
sil2100PASS   : tst_ShaderVideoNode::initTestCase()13:53
kenvandinei didn't get that!13:53
sil2100QWARN  : tst_ShaderVideoNode::testCameraSetCurrentFrame() No camera control or media player control instance included in video frame13:53
sil2100PASS   : tst_ShaderVideoNode::testCameraSetCurrentFrame()13:53
kenvandinewithout adding the check target13:53
sil2100QWARN  : tst_ShaderVideoNode::testMediaPlayerSetCurrentFrame() No camera control or media player control instance included in video frame13:53
sil2100PASS   : tst_ShaderVideoNode::testMediaPlayerSetCurrentFrame()13:53
sil2100PASS   : tst_ShaderVideoNode::cleanupTestCase()13:53
sil2100Totals: 4 passed, 0 failed, 0 skipped13:53
sil2100Since that's what the testcase CONFIG does I guess13:53
sil2100********* Finished testing of tst_ShaderVideoNode *********13:53
sil2100Here it runs?13:53
sil2100This is output from bzr bd13:53
kenvandinethat is what i did too...13:53
sil2100kenvandine: btw2. is it safe to change existing changelog contents? ;)13:54
sil2100kenvandine: since I have overriden the lintian warning, because I thought that existing changelog entries should stay intact, since those are released already13:55
sil2100didrocks: ^ what's the rule with that?13:55
kenvandinesil2100, i'd rather fix it13:55
kenvandineit's safe13:55
didrockssil2100: yeah, I agree with kenvandine13:56
didrocksif it's for fixing a lintian warning, better to fix the changelog13:56
didrocks(even if already released)13:56
kenvandineespecially since we know his email address :)13:56
didrocksthey even rewrote the history in latest doctor who (spoiler), so we can do as well :)13:56
kenvandinedidrocks, no spoilers!13:56
kenvandinei'm a whole season behind13:57
didrockskenvandine: I won't go further! :p13:57
didrockskenvandine: just though to tell you that…13:57
* didrocks runs away13:57
kenvandinetomorrow is fine13:57
didrockswhole season in a day?13:57
kenvandinei'm feeling a bit behind anyway, i'd rather work on something else that i haven't even started13:57
didrocksor you are speaking about otto? :p13:57
kenvandinedidrocks, haha13:57
kenvandinelarsu, speaking of tasks i really need to get started on... want to step through the new indicators-client stuff?13:58
kenvandinefor messaging menu?13:58
sil2100kenvandine: could you remove the lintian-overrides then ;)?13:58
kenvandinesil2100, sure13:58
kenvandinesil2100, ok... your branch does run the tests for me in pbuilder13:59
kenvandinebut it didn't in bzr bd13:59
kenvandinei'll remove that change in my branch13:59
larsukenvandine: well, I haven't started on messaging menu yet, because somebody noticed we have indicators in the greeter :)13:59
larsukenvandine: but sure, what do you want to do?13:59
kenvandinei need to turn back on adding facebook stuff in messaging menu14:00
kenvandineand do the inline replies14:00
kenvandinelike we do for SMS14:00
kenvandineremember you said i would be surprised how easy it is?14:00
larsuI do!14:00
larsuand you will be!14:00
larsuare you going to be using this from c++?14:01
kenvandinewell... adding the entry should be from vala14:01
kenvandinenot sure what the code will be like for replying14:02
kenvandinei think that is what you said would be easy :)14:02
larsuya that's fine as well, libmessaging-menu has gir14:02
larsuso the biggest problem is that you need the branch of libmessaging-menu that we're using on the phone14:03
larsuI have no idea where that is packaged, the upstream is lp:indicator-messages/phablet14:03
larsulike I said, I'll be working on consolidating these branches very soon14:04
larsubut I haven't gottent around to it yet14:04
kenvandinesil2100, i updated that branch14:06
kenvandinelarsu, that is fine, i can do the development on the phone14:06
sil2100kenvandine: will review in a moment :)14:07
larsukenvandine: awesome. I'm trying to find an example, but I can't ...14:08
kenvandinegreat :-D14:08
kenvandinelarsu, you should include examples in the source :)14:08
kenvandinelike tedg always did14:08
larsukenvandine: well, there are, but not for the new stuff that I hacked for the demo14:09
larsukenvandine: I'll write one, but the gist is this:14:09
* tedg wipes a tear and thinks: "kenvandine misses me"14:09
larsuin addition to sources, you can now also add MessagingMenu.MessageS to an MessagingMenuApp14:09
kenvandinetedg, every once in a while i do :)14:09
larsuthat represents one of those "hero items"14:10
larsuand it can take an arbitrary amount of actions with parameters14:10
larsuif there's one action with one string parameter, it will be rendered as a text entry field14:11
larsukenvandine: messaging_menu_message_add_action (msg, "id", "Reply", G_VARIANT_TYPE_STRING, NULL)14:12
larsuand then connect to the "activate" signal of that message, which gives you the parameter in a variant14:12
* larsu cooks up an example real quick14:12
kenvandinei think i understand14:13
Laneyphwoar, super hot & nice outside14:29
desrtLaney: did the g-c-c stuff get settled?14:33
Laneydesrt: settled how?14:34
desrtlanded, no more infinite loops and no regressions?14:34
Laneywell it's in saucy14:34
desrtso yes, i guess, otherwise i would have heard about it? :)14:35
LaneyCan't see any new bug reports14:35
Laneyand nobody has complained to me14:35
Laneyso ... seems ok so far14:35
Laneythat u-p-s job race is annoying though14:35
larsukenvandine: something like this should work: http://paste.debian.net/15543/14:37
kenvandinelarsu, thanks!14:38
larsukenvandine: there are also docsrings in the source, so making the docs yourself might help a bit too. Sorry about the state of all this right now14:39
larsukenvandine: at least I'm working on gsettings-qt model support today :)14:39
kenvandinelarsu, that's awesome too :)14:41
kgunn_mlankhorst: ping14:48
jbichampt: setting "Log on without a password" breaks sudo and any admin authentication prompts14:57
jbichayou can try it for yourself by going into User Accounts Settings, click Unlock, click Password14:57
jbichafor Action, set Log in without a password14:58
jbichathen try re-locking User Accounts and unlocking14:58
jbichait won't work until you first click Password again and set a password14:58
mdeslaurjbicha: why is it breaking everything? it should just add you to a group14:59
jbichait actually blanks your password, not adds you to a group15:00
mdeslaurwell, that's broken15:00
jbichaoh I see that I'm in the nopasswdlogin group15:01
mdeslaurit should simply add you to the nopasswdlogin group15:01
mdeslaurbut not disable your password15:01
mdeslaurhrm, accountsservice is doing both for some reason15:01
jbichathen I guess it's an accountsservice bug, I'm using http://www.valadoc.org/#!api=accountsservice/Act.User.set_password_mode15:02
mdeslaurhrm, using the nopasswdlogin group is a ubuntu-specific patch apparently15:03
mdeslaurwell, ubuntu/debian specific15:03
mdeslaurwhat a mess15:03
mdeslaurhrm, ok, so both removing the password, and adding to the group should be ok15:07
jbichaoh? let me log out15:07
mdeslaurnot sure why polkit isn't handling it...pam module config seems ok15:08
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didrockskenvandine: sil2100: Mirv: FYI, we fixed otto dependency detection, so expect some dependency adjustement tomorrow15:08
didrockssil2100: then, for looking at what packages are not needed for listing anymore, just look at the "new packages to install" and you will have the list I guess ;)15:09
jbichamdeslaur: yeah logging out didn't help (I'm using gdm)15:09
sil2100didrocks: well, my cleanup branch is waiting for approval all the time ;p15:10
didrockssil2100: did you made the list from the logs?15:10
sil2100didrocks: manually actually!15:11
mdeslaurjbicha: hrm, does in fact seem broken with sudo and policykit15:11
jbichait would be cool if that patch were upstream because once that bug is fixed, I believe the User Accounts panel still won't be designed to handle "log in without a password" correctly15:12
mdeslaurjbicha: we could just rename all these options "Break my computer" and be done with it15:13
jbichayou're right, we don't make the "break my computer" feature of Linux obvious enough ;)15:15
jbichaa lot of users have to install random stuff from ppa's to get that effect15:16
mdeslaurjbicha: so, is that option only when running under unity?15:17
didrockssil2100: do you want that we merge? Then, we can redeploy15:17
didrocksand run only the tests?15:17
jbichamdeslaur: I've only been using gnome-shell today; it's a GNOME feature too15:17
didrockssil2100: or even better, maybe we can do that stack per stack?15:17
didrockssil2100: like, you deploy (without merging)15:17
didrocksrun the stack15:18
mdeslaurjbicha: I mean, are you implementing mpt's design just for unity sessions, or will it be for gnome too?15:18
didrocks(with foo)15:18
didrockssil2100: and see the result right away?15:18
didrockssil2100: want that we do one together?15:18
mdeslaurjbicha: because just being in the nopasswdlogin should be enough for lightdm, without necessarily disabling the user password and breaking sudo and policykit15:18
sil2100didrocks: ok, wait one moment, I'll re-merge with trunk and try to re-deploy some smaller stack ;)15:19
mdeslaurbut, I guess that would mean extending accountsservice15:19
didrockssil2100: sure!15:19
jbichamdeslaur: my thought was that the Security tab should be Unity only since it duplicates GNOME 3.8's Privacy panel15:19
mdeslaurjbicha, mpt: ok, I think we don't have the proper infrastructure at the moment to handle a "Log in without a password" option15:22
mdeslaurjbicha, mpt: ideally, it would just allow logging in a the greeter without disabling the user password completely15:22
mdeslaurjbicha, mpt: but that would require adding some new apis to accountsservice15:22
mdeslaurjbicha, mpt: perhaps we should postpone that checkbox for now?15:23
sil2100didrocks: ok, will re-deploy the media stack, will re-run it for testing (with foo) once done15:25
didrockssil2100: ok, looking as well :)15:25
mdeslaurjbicha: ok, sudo and policykit break because we use "nullok_secure" in our pam config instead of just "nullok"15:30
sil2100didrocks: <- why?15:30
mdeslaurjbicha: perhaps a bug could be filed to see if it makes sense to change that15:30
sil2100didrocks: it didn't fire the autopilot-saucy-daily_release job, strangely?15:31
didrockssil2100: ah, nothing to publish ;)15:31
sil2100But but but but15:31
didrockssil2100: in fact, you should run manually the jobs, it's even better :)15:31
didrocksrelease, put "test"15:32
didrocksstack: name of the stack (it's just for printing)15:32
didrocksseries -> change to saucy :)15:32
sil2100didrocks: let me check the standard parameters from media then15:32
didrocksppa -> the syntax is
didrockssil2100: yeah, just use your "packages" and "testspackages"15:33
sil2100Didn't think about it, but I can test everything like this, heh...15:33
* sil2100 stupid15:33
jbichamdeslaur: which package should that bug be for?15:35
didrockssil2100: no worry, sometimes, it's easier to go straight to pushing buttons directly :)15:35
sil2100Ok, I see I have some missing packages, probably deps15:35
mdeslaurjbicha: pam15:36
sil2100didrocks: hope you don't mind I'll use the autopilot job for my purposes?15:38
didrockssil2100: you can even abuse it! nothing needs to run right now :)15:39
didrockssil2100: don't add them bindly pleae15:43
sil2100What do you mean?15:43
sil2100didrocks: with the packages lists, yes?15:44
didrockssil2100: yep ;)15:44
sil2100didrocks: how does the 'extra packages need to be isntalled' work now ;)?15:45
didrocksit's the same than before15:45
didrocks/var/log/upstart/otto-setup.log: E: The following additional packages will be installed:15:45
didrocksand then, you have the diff15:45
sil2100I know, but this means that without those in the list, it won't work, right?15:45
sil2100(as long as those make sense)15:46
didrockssil2100: right, we juts need to spot if some parts are in universe (for components in main), or if it makes sense to have all those new deps15:46
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didrocksgood evening everyone :)17:14
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