[00:00] <ikonia> but I'll leave that to you to figure out
[00:00] <Litepool> ok what i will do is look at this
[00:00] <Litepool> http://www.dangibbs.co.uk/journal/symlink-mysql-database-in-linux-ubuntu-w-apparmor
[00:01] <ikonia> Litepool: no
[00:01] <ikonia> but you carry on with anoher random guide if you want
[00:01] <Litepool> i have no other options right now ikonia, i am prety sure an ssd is what i need right now, my configuration can't handle the iowaits
[00:01] <ikonia> I'm pretty sure it's really NOT what you need
[00:02] <Litepool> well i just need it up and running for now
[00:02] <Litepool> and figuring it out later
[00:02] <ikonia> even just reading the back scroll in #mysql
[00:02] <Litepool> well the only advise you have given is to revert everything, i can delete the symlink and rename /var/lib/mysql-old to /var/lib/mysql but what else can i do after
[00:03] <wheatthin> why not just backup everything and reinstall everything onto the ssd, and save all the headache?
[00:03] <ikonia> Litepool: I suggested reverting it back to a.) go back to a known good config before going forward 2.) analysing things properly
[00:03] <PoolShark_> ikonia: good suggestion
[00:03] <ikonia> wheatthin: becuase he'll destory the SSD if his writes are as high as suggesting
[00:04] <ikonia> then he'll have no database
[00:04] <Litepool> i will back it up to my spare drives very often
[00:04] <PoolShark_> what kind of IO load are we talking about here?
[00:04] <wheatthin> including if he got a DDRdrive? which is meant for high io
[00:05] <ikonia> wheatthin: did he get a DDRdrive....
[00:05] <PoolShark_> dm-cache
[00:05] <PoolShark_> can dm-cache use a ramdisk as it's cache block device?
[00:05] <ikonia> PoolShark_:exactly
[00:06] <ikonia> depending on db size you could hold the whole lot in ram
[00:06] <ikonia> or just key tables
[00:06] <ikonia> create indexes to stop full table scan and reduce io
[00:06] <ikonia> there are many things
[00:06] <PoolShark_> I'km not even talkin gabout that
[00:06] <ikonia> but nah, just ram it on an SSD and watch it explode
[00:06] <PoolShark_> I'm talking about just setting up a massive ram cache for the underlying disk drive housing the database (which should itself be a multi-disk raid tuned for the kind of writes the DB is doing)
[00:07] <ikonia> there are many options
[00:07] <PoolShark_> yes there are
[00:07] <ikonia> hence why I said "analyise the problem"
[00:07] <PoolShark_> yes of cours
[00:07] <PoolShark_> e
[00:07] <ikonia> rather than just dumping it blindly on an SSD and following random guides on he web
[00:07] <ikonia> I bet the table optimizers not even been run yet
[00:08] <ikonia> could be something as simple as a fragmented large table due to write/deletion
[00:11]  * PoolShark_ tests IOPs on his array
[00:14] <epimeth> hi guys... My grub got fubar upgrading from LTS to whatever the next version was... 12.04 maybe? I set prefix to (blabla)/boot/grub/i36-pc and insmod linux but get error: symbol not found: 'grub_realidt'
[00:14] <penos> is ubuntu same as linux
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> epimeth, prefix
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> ?
[00:15] <Litepool> ikonia have to understand i been trying to sort this issue out for days now
[00:15] <Litepool> weeks even
[00:15] <Litepool> and ordered a ssd to my server
[00:15] <Litepool> so i didn't want to just cancell my palns
[00:15] <epimeth> penos: ubuntu is a linux distribution...  basically linux is just the base operating system, ubuntu provides all sorts of applications for convenience
[00:16] <epimeth> wilee-nilee: (blabla)/boot/grub/i386-px ... like I said :-)
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> epimeth, Can you like be accurate what lts to what, and what is prefix?
[00:17] <epimeth> wilee-nilee: I'm in grub rescue... my google fu led me to setting prefix to that, then running insmod linux, but that errors out
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> epimeth, get the bootrepair app, run the bootinfo summary only if you like and post the url to it.
[00:18] <PoolShark_> which litecoin pool do you run?
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> epimeth, In other words you are trying to manually boot right?
[00:19] <epimeth> wilee-nilee: I can't get into linux, I'm in grub-rescue... I have no idea where my disks are and really don't feel like burning a new one... not to mention I'm not sure what version of grub it should be on, the LTS version or the 12.04 one :-/
[00:19] <epimeth> wilee-nilee: yes, I'm trying to manually boot :-)
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> epimeth, I have printed info on manual booting, it is all over the web, however I just use super grub or a live cd in theses cases, supergrub to get in or a live cd to chroot grub to the mbr.
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> you can find all the data needed in a manual boot you just need the correct instructions
[00:26] <epimeth> wilee-nilee: which is why I came here... my google fu seems to be weak this evening... every post I've seen gives me errors
[00:26] <epimeth> specificaly, symbol not found errors.... grub_realidt, grud_disk_dev_list....
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> epimeth, Sure but coming here does not mean we wont ask you to follow an easy path, such as the bootinfo summary, so we can actually see what is there and get this done.
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> or just use supergrub and fix it from the desktop
[00:30] <epimeth> wilee-nilee: Of course not, but that doesn't mean there isn't someone here who is proficient in grubeese who could help me without supergrub/grubfix/whathaveyoufromthelivecd :-)
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> epimeth, Cool, then carry on. ;)
[00:33] <epimeth> so now that wilee has tapped out ;-)... anyone here good with grub rescue?
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> epimeth, NO I'm not tapped out your context suggests there could be mote than just grub problems, and I don't walk lazy people through stuff.
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> more*
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> I know grub
[00:38] <epimeth> wilee-nilee: hey dude... no offense meant!  I'm not being lazy!  In fact, if anything I'm looking for a freakin learning opportunity!  I did my homework, did what seemed to make sense, and I'm getting errors so I'm asking for help
[00:39] <epimeth> wilee-nilee: and by "dude" I mean "gender neutral description"
[00:39] <blahblah_> epimeth: what you looking for.. ?
[00:41] <epimeth> blahblah_: I'm in grub rescue and set my prefix to (lvm1-root)/boot/grub/i386-pc ... I tried to insmod linux and get error: symbol not found: 'grub_realidt'
[00:44] <blahblah_> epimeth: http://askubuntu.com/questions/284898/insmod-error-in-grub-symbol-not-foundgrub-realidt
[00:45] <_44trent3> How do I reset my vieo driver in Software Sources
[00:46] <epimeth> blahblah_: been there, I have the same answer that op did
[00:46] <_44trent3> Anyone?
[00:47] <alainus> I'm on the ubuntu live stick. Is it safe to change the user name and password using usermod ?
[00:47] <alainus> do I have to make sure no apps are running?
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> alainus, On the live cd?
[00:47] <blahblah_> _44trent3: vieo?
[00:48] <alainus> wilee-nilee, yes, and the UID as well
[00:48] <_44trent3> Video
[00:48] <almostworking> _44trent3, not sure what you have done, with your video driver, i install mine manually so its not something i have had to deal with in quite a long time.
[00:48] <alainus> wilee-nilee, I want to make a portable ubuntu installation
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> alainus, Is the usb persistent?
[00:48] <_44trent3> How do I reset it in Software Sources though, my screen res is messed up
[00:48] <alainus> wilee-nilee, yes
[00:49] <almostworking> hmm, well it should be a control panel thing to change your screen res.
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> alainus, The caper-rw the persistent will eventually fill up and can't be cleaned, if you want a real portable fully install it.
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> alainus, A live cd even with a persistent has limitations.
[00:50] <almostworking> assuming something hasnt gone wrong, and ur existing screen res, isnt there anymore for some reason, which would be unusual.
[00:50] <alainus> wilee-nilee, what do you mean? Install it on *another* usb from this usb ?
[00:50] <_44trent3> How do I do it?
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> alainus, Install however you want to a usb.
[00:50] <Shloop> I'm running ubuntu 12.10 and for some reason after I log in, I get a loading cursor and the desktop/unity does not respond to my clicking.
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> it*
[00:51] <alainus> wilee-nilee, Is it the same install process when it's on a usb? Do I have to do extra tweaking for correct booting or whatever
[00:51] <almostworking> actually i run ubuntu in a VM for my plex server atm. my primary distro is another flavor ....   system settings should be on your panel, go in there, and click on displays
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> alainus, You would just use the something other option a manual install and make sure you were installing to the usb, and putting grub in its mbr.
[00:52] <alainus> wilee-nilee, ok, thanks
[00:52] <deckard_> Hello. I have updated flash, i installed HAL even and I still cant watch Amazon Prime, can anybody recommend anything else?
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> alainus, Has to be a big enough usb as well.
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[00:52] <alainus> wilee-nilee, can it be a microSD? :D
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> alainus, Possibly, I found with my class 10 regular sdhd that it ran worse than a flash usb.
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> its a external not a mini is all.
[00:54] <Shloop> I'm running ubuntu 12.10 and for some reason after I log in, I get a loading cursor and the desktop/unity does not respond to my clicking.
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> Shloop, usb mouse, and have you tried another mouse, have you checked the battery if it has one?
[00:56] <alainus> wilee-nilee, is having the installation on a usb stick make it run slower than if it were on a hdd ?
[00:56] <alainus> not that i want to have just a usb installation, but i want to know
[00:56] <Shloop> wiliee-nilee no, I'm using a laptop
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> alainus, An external runs slower than a internal in general, a usb3 would be helpful.
[00:57] <_44trent3> Can anyone tell me how to reset the video driver in software sources?
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> Shloop, so it is a tap pad?
[00:58] <alainus> wilee-nilee, does the computer I use the stick in need to have special hardware ? (sorry for all the questioning)
[00:58] <alainus> in the case it's usb3, I mean
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> alainus, For?
[00:59] <Shloop> wiliee-nilee nope just a laptop.
[00:59] <alainus> For a usb 3.0 stick
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> alainus, Really you will have to mess around with it, we can get different results depending on the hardware alone, of the external and the compuyters plugged into.
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> !details | Shloop
[01:02] <almostworking> _44trent3, sorry i couldnt be of more help ...... i usually blacklist noevouu, and manually install nvidia drivers
[01:02] <almostworking> someone should be around at some point, it might take a bit that knows what you should do
[01:02] <_44trent3> Found a tutorial on how to reset them in the terminal
[01:02] <almostworking> oh, ok cool.
[01:03] <_44trent3> its for nvidia but i just replace nvidia with fglx in the reset
[01:03] <_44trent3> *fglrx
[01:03] <Shloop> I have a problem with ubuntu. I'm running version 12.10. When I try to use ubuntu after I log in, I get no response from clicking on icons. I expected it to respond as it always has. I can move the cursor and see all the icons on my desktop and the sidebar, but nothing responds when I click on it.
[01:04] <epimeth> so does anyone know how to use grub rescue?
[01:05] <almostworking> ah, ok, well as long as it works, im trying to figure out if its possible to install ubuntu on a x200, tablet with the touchscreen bit working
[01:06] <_44trent3> My driver actually isn't funtioning properly.
[01:06] <_44trent3> How to I make it work?
[01:06] <_44trent3> *do
[01:07] <agora> shloop so it was working before?  did you make any changes recently/install or remove any packages?
[01:08] <usuario_> hei
[01:08] <agora> hello usuario_
[01:08] <_44trent3> What happens if I remove the fglrx package in synaptic manager?
[01:09] <Shloop> agora yes it was working before. No I haven't installed or removed any packages.
[01:09] <xatr0z> Shloop: you could try running xev to see if that sees the clicking event
[01:09] <agora> shloop hmmm
[01:09] <_44trent3> Do I blackscreen? Or do I get the driver that was installed when Ubuntu was installed
[01:10] <agora> xatr0x good idea
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> !who > _44trent3
[01:10] <histo> _44trent3: which graphics card do you have?
[01:10] <Reflow> can someone help me with an ubuntu homework i have due tomorrow
[01:10] <Reflow> is about the command line
[01:11] <_44trent3> I have ATI Radeon HD 2600 histo
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> Reflow, We don't do homework.
[01:11] <histo> _44trent3: Which version of ubuntu?
[01:11] <_44trent3> 12.04 LTS
[01:11] <rypervenche> I've got a quick question. If I put an encrypted volume on a FAT32 filesystem, is the maximum size of the volume 4G? Or does it not act as a file?
[01:12] <agora> what the heck is ubuntu homework?
[01:12] <Reflow> agora: about the command line, some command questions
[01:13] <histo> _44trent3: under system settings > additional drivers  you can install drivers for your grpahics card
[01:13] <Reflow> agora: would you help me it's just like 10 multiple answer questions
[01:13] <_44trent3> Okay. Thanks histo.
[01:13] <histo> Reflow: what is the first question?
[01:13] <agora> reflow like wilee-nilee said, we don't do homework.  My question was more along the lines of what course involves learning how to use Ubuntu.
[01:13] <histo> Reflow: I'm wiling to assist you
[01:13] <_44trent3> It just shows my Broadcom wifi adapter
[01:13] <Shloop> agora xatr0z do you think this could be hardware related? Perhaps something wrong with the HDD?
[01:14] <histo> Reflow: If you want pm me
[01:14] <agora> shloop if it's hardware related then it would probably be the left click button
[01:14] <Reflow> agora: startup enginering
[01:14] <agora> reflow ah
[01:14] <histo> !ati | _44trent3
[01:15] <Shloop> I've tried fixing the packages but I run into a bunch of errors
[01:15] <agora> what did you see when you ran xev shloop?
[01:15] <almostworking> now im curious about the terminal questions.
[01:16] <agora> shloop run xev and then click in the box.  it should give a "ButtonRelease" output followed by other text
[01:16] <Shloop> I wrote that down as something to try. I have to restart the computer to do it
[01:16] <_44trent3> How do I test fglrx Histo?
[01:16] <agora> shloop why?
[01:17] <Shloop> agora because I am running on ubuntu live right now just so I can use irc chat
[01:17] <agora> shloop wait so you cannot click on anything? it's not just icons?
[01:17] <agora> shloop and does the mouse work off of the live cd?
[01:18] <Shloop> agora Correct. Nothing. Yes the mouse does work with the live cd
[01:18] <agora> shloop oh then it's not a hardware issue i dont think
[01:18] <Shloop> agora it boots and logs in but it that's as far as I can get
[01:19] <histo> _44trent3: test what part of it?
[01:19] <_44trent3> to see if it is functioning?
[01:19] <agora> shloop you can open terminal though right? with the keyboard?
[01:19] <Shloop> how do you open the terminal with the keyboard? i'll have to try
[01:20] <histo> !cli | Reflow
[01:21] <agora> shloop ctrl alt t
[01:22] <Shloop> agora once i do that i should try executing xev?
[01:24] <agora> shloop yea xev just displays information about events, including clicks and mouse movement, so you can tell if the click is being registered
[01:24] <agora> shloop you might try a simple apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[01:25] <agora> shloop you could also try a different mouse if you have one
[01:26] <Thetenthdr> Is this the right channel for compatability questions?
[01:26] <agora> thetenthdr compatibility with ubuntu, yes :)
[01:28] <Thetenthdr> Cool. I am wanting to get a Belkin N750 DB wireless adapter working on Ubuntu, if anyone could point me in tye right direction?
[01:28] <Thetenthdr> 13.04 btw
[01:29] <xatr0z> Thetenthdr: plug it in and enter lsusb in a terminal, so you can see the device id
[01:29] <xatr0z> then you can google that to find people with exactly the same product/version
[01:30] <Thetenthdr> Xatr0z, perfect thank you
[01:30] <agora> thetenthdr i searched it and it looks like you want to use ndiswrapper with the windows xp driver
[01:31] <Thetenthdr> Agora, ok thanks :-)
[01:32] <agora> thetenthdr here's the ndiswrapper documentation if you don't know how to use it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[01:33] <Thetenthdr> Thanks, i was just looking it up. Gonna have to figure out how to get a wired connection in here to download this stuff though it looks like
[01:34] <kokoye2007> IdleOne: hello
[01:34] <agora> thetenthdr I used to need to use ndiswrapper and I installed it without a wired connection.  Just download all the required packages and windows drivers to a flash drive on a different computer or OS
[01:35] <Thetenthdr> Agora, yeah i was just thinking the same lol
[01:35] <agora> thetenthdr :)
[01:36] <agora> thetenthdr I have to go afk for awhile but if you have questions you can PM me
[01:36] <Thetenthdr> Agora, Sounds good, thank you very much!
[01:36] <agora> thetenthdr np
[01:48] <IrcDroidClient> can't connect to my wpa2 network from tty but I must as I don't yet have graphics drivers and need network to get them
[01:50] <IrcDroidClient> does anyone know how to connect to wpa2 WiFi from tty? no luck so far
[01:53] <IrcDroidClient> is anyone there?
[01:53] <xatr0z> IrcDroidClient: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[01:54] <xatr0z> have to go now sorry, but you should have all the tools mentioned (wpa_supplicant etc)
[01:54] <IrcDroidClient> xatr0z ok
[01:57] <iphone_help> hi guys. i usually connect to the internet at home via usb iphone tether. i am running ubuntu 13.04... i accidentially deleted the iphone connection in network manager and now... usb tethering no longer works. ive tried alot of different forum posts but i cant get it working... when i connect my iphone it just says "Ethernet Network (Apple iPhone) disconnected" even though the iphone turns blue and shows the connection is tethere
[02:02] <_44trent3> Is the black screen isssue with proprietary video drivers in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS? If it isn't can I just run the script that came with the linux version download of it. My video card driver is an ATI Radeon HD 2600. Did they discontinue that for Ubuntu 12.04? Or just 12.10?
[02:04] <_44trent3>    Anybody know the answer to my question
[02:06] <craigbass1976> anyone familiar with a cross platform task manager (for people tasks, not running processes)
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> !anyone
[02:08] <clannadyue> hello
[02:09] <craigbass1976> wilee-nilee, that's the question.  I'm not finding mmuch googling, other than some gnome specific hamster app
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> craigbass1976, Cool, details generally are a good kicker for help, for example what you have tried so far, and where you are stuck. ;)
[02:13] <_44trent3> When I redownload the video drivers I get this error: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? What process could be stopping this?
[02:13] <_44trent3> i did it through the terminal
[02:13] <_44trent3> How do I check the processes open?
[02:14] <tsimpson> make sure you don't have the GUI package manager open
[02:15] <nasir> i have installed powertop. how do i use it to save power?
[02:23] <varunendra> nasir, "sudo powertop" to run it. Then press Left arrow key to quickly go to the last tab (Yes it has different tabs even in the terminal) > Press "Enter" on each entry that says - "Bad", it'll turn to "Good". Press "Esc" to exit. That's it.
[02:26] <kdmurray> I'm looking for a good primer on file pemissions. I'm getting access dened messages moving files/folders around where both the source and destination are writable by groups I'm a part of. I can't seem to figure out why it's failing.
[02:26] <snufft> has anyone else had problems with the Software Updater being minimised to the Launcher and you can't open it to see what needs updating? this is 13.04 btw
[02:27] <varunendra> kdmurray, checked current permissions with "ls -l" on files/folders ?
[02:29] <kdmurray> varunendra - yes. source and destination folders are both 775, and I'm a member of the group in both cases.
[02:29] <agora> snufft what do you mean you can't open it? you click on it and nothing happens?
[02:30] <snufft> agora, yes. if i right click it, I can "install all updates" and that works, fine, but just trying t view the window doesn't seem to happen
[02:30] <snufft> agora, I just found someone having the same problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/305069/software-updater-window-not-displaying-though-open-in-13-04
[02:32] <alainus> Is there a way I can download textinfo manuals (properly, not using wget - if it exists) that are missing in my system?
[02:32] <snufft> strangely enough, if I right click and close it, then launch it from the Unity menu, I can minimise/maximise/etc no worries
[02:32] <varunendra> kdmurray, are both of these local locations (not on NAS/network)? Any fancy settings with ACLs/Disk Quota etc. ?
[02:33] <kdmurray> varunendra - both are local to the same volume. I haven't done any configuration of ACLs or quotas.
[02:33] <agora> snufft this is going to sound like a really dumb answer, but whenever I see software updater appear, I open terminal and run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[02:34] <snufft> agora, I was doing the same until I realise that I could close and re-open from the Unity menu :P
[02:34] <agora> snufft also I don't use unity so I haven't seen the same issue
[02:34] <varunendra> kdmurray, mount is r/w ?
[02:34] <agora> snufft no like I'm saying I prefer the non-GUI update (or verbose update)
[02:35] <agora> snufft just personal preference I guess
[02:35] <snufft> agora, ahhh, fair enough :) I'm pretty sure it's just unity that's having this problem. The software updater seems to function just fine otherwise. Maybe this last lot of updates will fix it :P
[02:36] <agora> snufft hopefully :)
[02:36] <craigbass1976> wilee-nilee, I found fred... http://fred.mayastudios.com/download/  going to give that one a whirl.
[02:36] <agora> snufft GNOME > unity anyways :P
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> craigbass1976, Cool hope that works for you. ;)
[02:38] <Dextrome> I like Unity and Gnome3 about the same
[02:38] <eam> what package in ubuntu contains libcurl4?
[02:39] <eam> I see a libcurl3 and a  libcurl4-openssl-dev, but no libcurl4
[02:41] <agora> eam http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1774516
[02:43] <eam> agora: sure, but which package contains it?
[02:43] <snufft> agora, haha, I've got to look into giving gnome and kde a crack. this is the first gui I've used with ubuntu/linux. everything else has been terminal for servers
[02:43] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[02:45] <agora> snufft just be wary that problems can arise when installing DEs on top of each other
[02:45] <SirClueless> anyone know what directory the dh_build command gets executed in? i'm trying to package a troublesome package and I have no idea what I'm doing
[02:46] <agora> eam do you just need to know how to install it?
[02:46] <snufft> agora, ahhh, no worries. I might do it on a different box then. thanks :)
[02:46] <snufft> agora++
[02:47] <agora> snufft I installed GNOME over unity
[02:47] <agora> snufft unity is now unusable, but GNOME is great :D
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> agora, gnome what?
[02:58] <agora> wilee-nilee 3
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> agora, The shell, gnome 3 is under unity.
[02:59] <j1ulia2n> wee
[03:00] <agora> wilee-nilee why does unity lag then after I installed GNOME to the log screen?
[03:00] <DIIP> apt-get install gparted command shows package not available..
[03:00] <DIIP> many packages are not available..
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> DIIP, can you run cat /etc/apt.sources.list and pastebin it.
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:01] <ctcb> What channel would be best for Discussing Distrubutions of Ubuntu and the creation of them?
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> ctcb, #ubuntu-offtopic most likely
[03:02] <thetenthdr_> Anyone dealt with a Belkin N750 DB/N900 DB or Ralink RT3753 before?
[03:03] <histo> !anyone | thetenthdr_
[03:12] <SirClueless> i'm building a shared library that doesn't build lib*.so.<n>, just lib*.so
[03:12] <SirClueless> how do I package it?
[03:13] <saiarcot895> SirClueless: I think you'll have to create a symlink, but let me check
[03:15] <saiarcot895> SirClueless: since the main lib package usually follows the former naming convention, you could rename the library to match the naming syntax (where n is the ABI version)
[03:16] <saiarcot895> SirClueless: also, check #ubuntu-packaging
[03:17] <SirClueless> saiarcot895: I don't think this library has any ABI versioning per se -- I know it breaks compatibility on pretty much every minor version
[03:18] <saiarcot895> SirClueless: is it frequently updated?
[03:19] <SirClueless> saiarcot895: not lately
[03:22] <saiarcot895> SirClueless: based on Debian Library Packaging Guidelines, the n has to be the SONAME (use objdump -p filename | grep SONAME to see this)
[03:23] <saiarcot895> SirClueless: you might be able to have a package name of libname-version-soname
[03:25] <saiarcot895> SirClueless: actually, scratch what I said; see http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html
[03:27] <SirClueless> i'm currently reading http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html
[03:27] <SirClueless> which suggests that packages that are "unstable" (like this one, no versioned SONAME) are possible but not recommended
[03:28] <saiarcot895> SirClueless: I was reading that too, but this one seems to be more recent (2012)
[03:30] <saiarcot895> SirClueless: regardless, check with #ubuntu-packaging, and possible #debian-mentors on OFTC, as they may be also able to help with packaging (even though this is for Ubuntu)
[03:30] <SirClueless> saiarcot895: ok, will do, thanks for your help
[03:31] <saiarcot895> SirClueless: you're welcome
[03:33] <ClientAlive> Does anyone know if Krusader can be used with other desktop environments? If I just sudo apt-get install krusader (or something like that) is it gonna pull in the whole kde de?
[03:34] <chro> how do I delete the last logins (available when last is typed)?
[03:37] <trism> ClientAlive: it won't pull in the de, just kde-runtime
[03:38] <niocora> If you have a CD of 11.10 and install it, would there be updates up to the point support was cut off? Or no updates because it's not hosted/whatever?
[03:38] <histo> chro: you'd have to clear /var/log/wtmp probably
[03:39] <histo> niocora: no updates
[03:39] <histo> !eol | niocora
[03:40] <chro> histo: how can I clear that file ?
[03:40] <chro> can I simply delete it ?
[03:40] <histo> niocora: look at hte eolupgrades page.  It describes how to update from those old systems
[03:40] <histo> chro: echo > /var/log/wtmp   would clear it
[03:41] <chro> ok let me try
[03:43] <chro> $ sudo echo > /var/log/wtmp
[03:43] <chro> -bash: /var/log/wtmp: Permission denied
[03:43] <lauratika> i notice a mouse gesture on 12.04 to show desktop but is gone, some one knows what this is?
[03:44] <histo> chro: echo | sudo tee /var/log/wtmp
[03:45] <chro> awesome
[03:45] <chro> thanks histo
[03:45] <histo> chro: np
[03:46] <histo> lauratika: I don't remember ubuntu ever having mouse gestures by default
[03:46] <lauratika> funny cause i dont know how but desktop was shwoing on a fresh install when trying to display unity bar and by mistake hitting top right corner
[03:47] <waqas> hello
[03:48] <ramon> Does someone here knows what is Akanoditray? It just apeared in my Unity and I don't know why!
[03:48] <xmetal> well it did take some fighting but i was finally able to customize Grub 2.00 when i updated Grub Customizer from 2.x to 3.x
[03:48] <waqas> i m working on freeswitch but when i give the command           it gives error to enable certificates.................[root@178 bin]# ./gentls_cert setup
[03:48] <waqas> Creating new CA...
[03:48] <waqas> private key length is too short,
[03:48] <waqas> it needs to be at least 384 bits, not 0
[03:48] <FloodBot1> waqas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:49] <xmetal> never (until now) tcould get "grub 2" customizations to "stick)
[03:49] <waqas> okay
[03:49] <ClientAlive> trism: thx man. I'll giver er a try
[03:49] <xmetal> " *
[03:50] <waqas> i m facing the following error while enabling root certificate       ./gentls_cert setup          creating new ca private lenght key is too short it needs to at least 384 bits.not 0
[03:50] <waqas> please help
[03:52] <histo> waqas: specify a lenght
[03:53] <waqas> how can i specify the lenght histo
[03:53] <waqas> ?
[03:53] <histo> waqas: No idea where did you get the gentls_cert script?
[03:53] <waqas> freeswitch
[03:53] <histo> waqas: ask them then
[03:53] <histo> waqas: It's their script that is causing the error
[03:53] <waqas> no
[03:54] <waqas> their script is right
[03:54] <histo> waqas: Not if it's generating a 0 length key
[03:54] <waqas> when i give the  command to enable the root certificate it gives the error
[03:54] <histo> it's not doing anything.
[03:55] <histo> waqas: This is #ubuntu not third party freeswitch support you realize right?
[03:56] <waqas> might my openssl will be criplled
[03:56] <waqas> how to check it
[03:57] <waqas> histo
[03:57] <histo> waqas: /j #freeswitch
[03:59] <hdon> hi all :) does anyone else experience a compiz memory leak? particularly when running screensavers for hours?
[03:59] <histo> !bug | hdon
[04:01] <hdon> i've filed several ubuntu bugs. they have all been trials. i don't like doing it.
[04:01] <hdon> (several bugs unrelated to this particular problem)
[04:02] <hdon> never felt it was so much trouble to file bugs until i filed ubuntu bugs
[04:04] <waqas> ./gentls_cert setupCreating new CA...private key length is too short,it needs to be at least 384 bits, not 0
[04:05] <waqas> plz helpp me resolving this error
[04:05] <histo> hd5770: it's not hard with ubuntu-bug packagename
[04:05] <histo> waqas: /join #freeswitch
[04:05] <waqas> okay
[04:08] <fedeisas> does anyone know if syslog is disabled by default on ubuntu server? THanks
[04:09] <histo> fedeisas: Why would syslog be disabled?
[04:09] <fedeisas> histo I'm working on a fresh installation on a VPS and /var/log/syslog is empty
[04:09] <fedeisas> histo I'm trying to setup incrontab but it doesn't logs anything
[04:09] <histo> fedeisas: Perhaps your hosting provider disabled it for some reason
[04:10] <fedeisas> histo is there anyway I can check?
[04:10] <histo> fedeisas: ps aux | grep syslog
[04:10] <fedeisas> histo rsyslogd -c5 ?
[04:11] <histo> fedeisas: look to the left  and you will see syslog
[04:11] <histo> fedeisas: is the user running that pid
[04:12] <fedeisas> histo syslog    4278  0.0  0.1 251684  1388 ?        Sl   Jul09   0:12 rsyslogd -c5
[04:12] <histo> fedeisas: yeah it's running so what is the issue?
[04:12] <fedeisas> my /var/log/syslog is EMPTY, like 0 lines. Is this normal?
[04:13] <histo> fedeisas: Not normal so that's an issue.  Are you installing ubuntu or is your vps host?
[04:14] <fedeisas> histo it's an image they provide. I don't know if it's modified. It's Linode
[04:15] <histo> fedeisas: I'd ask them as this is not "stock" behavior
[04:15] <fedeisas> histo thanks a lot
[04:15] <fedeisas> histo actually, my problem is using incrontab, I'm trying to get the logs to see why it's not working
[04:16] <histo> fedeisas: I'm not familiar with incrontab
[04:16] <fedeisas> histo thanks anyway. have a nice day
[04:18] <histo> fedeisas: from what I see in the man pages online look in /etc/incron.conf and make sure logging isn't specified to some wierd location
[04:35] <chunkyhead> guys little help here, i switched on ubuntu to find that all my applications are running in some kind of a lame classic mode http://screencloud.net/v/eBvx
[04:36] <xkernel> flash can't find webcam but it's working in skype, any idea?
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> xkernel: did you right mouse flash area and choose webcam?
[04:37] <xkernel> lotuspsychje, yes but the webcam is not there its empty
[04:37] <xkernel> said cannot find camera
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> xkernel: does your flash actualy works?
[04:38] <xkernel> lotuspsychje, yes
[04:38] <macwolf74> chunkyhead, try setting the theme to ambiance in system settings
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> xkernel: on what browser?
[04:38] <xkernel> lotuspsychje, chrome
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> xkernel: same issue on firefox?
[04:39] <Equinox3> i got this error "no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU" with cpufreq-info
[04:39] <Equinox3> is this fixable
[04:40] <Equinox3> can't see any cpu modules loaded on lsmod command
[04:40] <holstein> chunkyhead: what are you talking about? the theme?
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> holstein: morning mate :p
[04:40] <holstein> lotuspsychje: o/
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> xkernel: is your goolge-chrome up to date?
[04:42] <xkernel> lotuspsychje, yes
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> xkernel: other flash video's work on chrome?
[04:42] <xkernel> lotuspsychje, ye
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> xkernel: so its just black cam area, can you right mouse flash settings?
[04:43] <holstein> xkernel: flash doesnt have to support your hardware.. it might not.. what exactly are you trying to do?
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> !details | xkernel
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> xkernel: is this default cam from laptop, or external cam?
[04:48] <chunkyhead> holstein: macwolf74 i tried that let me show you what happens when i change the theme, ambience: http://screencloud.net/v/f64V radiance: http://screencloud.net/v/F55v highContrast: http://screencloud.net/v/C7kB
[04:49] <macwolf74> hmm
[04:49] <macwolf74> did you try logging in and out and even restarting chunkyhead?
[04:50] <chunkyhead> macwolf74: i think there's some problem accessing the themes, i tried logging in and out didn't try restart. should i?
[04:50] <macwolf74> yes
[04:50] <chunkyhead> brb
[04:51] <holstein> chunkyhead: i would login as a new user.. to remove your config from the equation
[04:51] <macwolf74> if that's not solved I think I know what's the problem
[04:53] <chunkyhead> macwolf74: worked ^_^
[04:53] <macwolf74> \o/
[04:53] <chunkyhead> any idea what's the units of the numbers when i type free on the terminal
[04:54] <macwolf74> kilobytes
[04:56] <chunkyhead> when i installed ubuntu, i left some amount of space so that later i'll make swap partition. http://screencloud.net/v/yzhk how it is used?
[04:57] <holstein> chunkyhead: how is swap used?
[04:57] <chunkyhead> i never made a swap partition. that memory used and free should be together in free.
[04:57] <chunkyhead> holstein: ^
[04:58] <holstein> chunkyhead: what?
[04:58] <chunkyhead> holstein: i just left space to make a swap partition later on. that is free space on the computer. alteast it should be
[04:58] <holstein> chunkyhead: whats the question?
[05:09] <thetenthdr> Hey guys, I'm trying to get my USB wifi adapter installed. Its a Belkin N750 DB/N900 DB with a Ralink RT3573 chipset. I have the drivers installed via ndiswrapper, the card is recognized by ndiswrapper, but when I run sudo modprobe ndiswrapper nothing happens. Any ideas?
[05:10] <chunkyhead> holstein: i should have about 3GB of space free, how to make a swap partition out of that 3gb free space i have
[05:11] <holstein> chunkyhead: i would use gparted, and create the swap partition
[05:11] <holstein> !swap
[05:11] <kdmurray> varunendra - just wanted to say thatnks for the assistance earlier. turns out I can't read, aparently. There were no group write permissions.
[05:11] <holstein> ^^ you can refer to that on how to enable it chunkyhead
[05:12] <chunkyhead> i just wanted my hibernate to work. my laptop battery has turned corrupt, lasts like 10mins tops
[05:12] <chunkyhead> holstein: ^
[05:12] <chunkyhead> thanks holstein :)
[05:13] <holstein> i find hibernate is not much faster than a fresh reboot.. sometimes slower :/
[05:21] <varunendra> kdmurray, you're welcome :) I was suspecting it should be something simple, else permission issues on linux, without explanation, would be 'paranormal' for me :P
[05:32] <netlar> Any recommendations for an application menu for unity?
[05:32] <qin> holstein: thats quite logical, if you have open few massive applications
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> netlar, I use the cairo dock on unity and the gnome shell.
[05:33] <jivora> Hi, I have chrome deployed on a linux box. The toolbar is red in colour. I am guessing some gtk or gdk files are missing. Would anyone know which one. Thanks.
[05:33] <netlar> wilee-nilee: thanks, but I actually like unity
[05:34] <devslash> i have ubuntu running on a mac which has a trackpad. i keep triggering the 3 finger on the trackpage gesture by accident which displays the app switcher. is there a way to disable this ?
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> devslash, I found some threads on askubuntu on this with various fixes you might take a look. http://askubuntu.com/
[05:44] <devslash> its so annoying that im almost ready to stop using ubuntu
[05:44] <devslash> it triggers accidently many times a day
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> devslash, From what I read 3 finger attribute has to be turned on, could this be the case in your situation, I don't use my tap pad.
[05:47] <devslash> no
[05:47] <devslash> i never turned it on. it has been on since i installed ubuntu
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> devslash, Well it seemed there were fixes on that site, but do what you have to do.
[05:50] <devslash> i found a fix on there. thanks
[05:52] <sanav> !ot
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> devslash, Cool, enjoy. ;)
[05:53] <devslash> thanks
[05:53] <devslash> that has been driving me batshit crazy since i switched to ubuntu
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> devslash, That would be rather bothersome
[05:57] <zryan> hi all
[05:57] <Gilligan94> Hello, I have successfully installed Bumblebee, now I want to set it up so that it always uses my Nvidia card, how do I do this? I've tried asking in #bumblebee but it's not very active, can anyone here help?
[05:59] <mumpitzel> Gilligan94: the only point of bumblebee is to use both. if you want to use nv only, make it active in BIOS and install the nvidia drivers only, no bumblebee
[05:59] <mumpitzel> battery life will suffer
[05:59] <Gilligan94> mumpitzel: I am using a laptop thus I cannot turn the intel off. my card does not work without bumblebee
[06:02] <mumpitzel> I know what you are using
[06:02] <mumpitzel> and bumblebee is made for using both
[06:03] <Thetenthdr> Hey guys, have a question. I installed my USB Wifi adapter drivers with ndiswrapper, but when I run sudo modprobe ndiswrapper nothing happens. Any ideas?
[06:03] <yooo> help?
[06:03] <yooo> i was wondering if i could recover my file from my wiped OS, is that evn possible?
[06:04] <max_> hello world?
[06:04] <somsip> !undelete | yooo
[06:04] <max_> anybody here?
[06:04] <somsip> !ask | max_
[06:05] <max_> how to remove a file by terminal?
[06:06] <somsip> max_: rm filename
[06:06] <Brandon2> The command you're looking for is "sudo rm *"
[06:07] <somsip> !danger
[06:07] <max_> yes!sudo!
[06:07] <Brandon2> You may have to put in your password
[06:07] <zryan> my google chrome evry time is (Aw, Snap!)? how to fix it?
[06:07] <zryan> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[06:08] <djshotglass> i wish to download but (not install) the files that apt-get dist-upgrade would install every night at 2am
[06:08] <djshotglass> when my bandwidht is free
[06:08] <blazemore> djshotglass: sudo apt-get --download-only disk-upgrade
[06:09] <djshotglass> is it safe to cronjob that though
[06:09] <djshotglass> i know other package managers it can mess up the DB
[06:09] <blazemore> djshotglass: Yes it's safe
[06:10] <blazemore> It puts those packages in the cache (/var/cache/apt/archives)
[06:10] <djshotglass> should i `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get --download-only dist-upgrade`
[06:10] <djshotglass> blazemore yea i get that but on arch linux you cant cronjob a download only for the package manager
[06:11] <djshotglass> it breaks the package manager db
[06:11] <Thetenthdr> Hey guys, have a question. I installed my USB Wifi adapter drivers with ndiswrapper, but when I run sudo modprobe ndiswrapper nothing happens. Any ideas?
[06:14] <varunendra> Thetenthdr, I may not be able to help with ndiswrapper, but are you sure your adapter is not supported by a native Linux driver?
[06:15] <Thetenthdr> Reasonably sure, theres a Linux driver for the chipset but it doesnt work for whatever reason.
[06:15] <varunendra> Thetenthdr, which one?
[06:15] <Thetenthdr> Ralink RT3573
[06:16] <varunendra> Thetenthdr, Ubuntu 13.04?
[06:16] <Thetenthdr> Yes
[06:18] <varunendra> Thetenthdr, I think it is supported by the native rt2800usb driver. But anyway, which windows driver did you use with ndiswrapper (xp 32 bit?)?
[06:19] <Thetenthdr> I used XP 32 bit, 64 bit, vista 32 and 64, w7 32 and 64, none worked. Most say driver installed, but still do nothing when i run the modprobe
[06:19] <Thetenthdr> root@thetenthdr-desktop:~# sudo ndiswrapper -l
[06:19] <Thetenthdr> rt2870 : driver installed
[06:19] <Thetenthdr> 	device (050D:1103) present
[06:20] <varunendra> Thetenthdr, I'm not super sure, but as far as I know, ndiswrapper expects xp 32 bit drivers only.
[06:20] <Thetenthdr> Well, that was the first one I tried, but no bueno :(
[06:21] <varunendra> Thetenthdr, do you also have the proprietary driver from ralink installed? (rt2870 ??)
[06:21] <varunendra> that may be a problem if you do
[06:23] <Thetenthdr> Not that Im aware of. I pulled the drivers from the installation CD
[06:25] <varunendra> Thetenthdr, I missed your previous msg about "ndiswrapper -l", got it now.
[06:26] <varunendra> Thetenthdr, please post the pastebin link of "lsusb" while the adapter is plugged in. And which version of driver is currently installed? (xp 32bit or other?)
[06:27] <Thetenthdr> XP 64
[06:28] <Thetenthdr> varunendra http://paste.ubuntu.com/5863965/
[06:29] <varunendra> I doubt if 64 bit driver is going to work... but not sure
[06:30] <Thetenthdr> varunendra, I can install the 32bit again, but it doesnt do anything.
[06:30] <varunendra> Thetenthdr, does "modinfo rt2800usb | grep 1103" return anything?
[06:31] <Thetenthdr> No
[06:33] <agora> ltxda ^?
[06:34] <varunendra> Thetenthdr, like I said, I'm not good with ndiswrapper, so can't help anymore than the wiki page can. You may try the proprietary rt3573usb driver from ralink, but be forewarned that it sometimes causes freezing issue with 13.04 (is good with 12.04).
[06:35] <mipo> can I remove lighdm after installing gnome-shell?
[06:36] <Thetenthdr> varunendra, thank you
[06:36] <varunendra> Thetenthdr, hoping someone else may offer better help, you may use "wireless_script" to generate a detailed diagnostics report : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[06:36] <Thetenthdr> Ok, will do
[06:37] <agora> so I butchered unity when I installed GNOME 3, now I'm curious how to un-butcher it.  GNOME works fine, but unity unusable.  I'm not sure how to explain it, but it is similar to how in windows when the computer freezes you can drag a window around and it repeats itself, that happens for everything.
[06:37] <agora> unity *is unusable
[06:38] <Thetenthdr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5863985/ pastebin of the results
[06:38] <agora> similar to this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/iR1Sp.png
[06:38] <agora> except with the windows, the unitybar (which i autohide), and everything else that appears
[06:39] <nemo_> no mods at Ubuntu Forums? Berlingio is spamming away!
[06:39] <LizardKilla> Berlingio, not again... -_-
[06:40] <LizardKilla> punk
[06:42] <varunendra> Thetenthdr, opposite to my belief, the kernel is complaining for the driver NOT being 64 bit : [ 6090.259680] ndiswrapper (check_nt_hdr:141): kernel is 64-bit, but Windows driver is not 64-bit;bad magic: 010B
[06:43] <varunendra> Thetenthdr, I suggest you completely purge ndiswrapper (plus its configuration files in /etc) then try again with xp 64 bit driver (yeah, contradicting my own belief :/)
[06:44] <dazzle_> Who's berlingio?
[06:45] <Thetenthdr> varunendra, thanks, will do
[06:48] <arquebus> all the files on my flash drive are "locked", I cant change owners/permissions on it. I remember I found an easy fix to this a long time ago but forgot what it is, anyone know how to fix this?
[06:49] <HypothesisFrog> can anyone recommend a cheap laser printer that works ok with ubuntu?
[06:50] <varunendra> HypothesisFrog, Samsung SCX 4300 and SCX 3200. There are many others but these were cheapest (in India) when I was searching.
[06:51] <camels> Anyone playing dota 2 on ubuntu yet?
[06:51] <wilee-nilee> HypothesisFrog, We just do support, not polling. ;)
[06:51] <varunendra> arquebus, is the drive fat/32?
[06:52] <Styles> camels, yeah
[06:52] <Styles> I have the Dota 2 test installed, checked github, all the bugs I've found are already reported
[06:52] <camels> Styles: Have you had any luck playing the game? I'm having driver issues with ATI
[06:52] <Styles> It doesn't seem we're apart of the general population yet.
[06:52] <Styles> Hahahahhaa
[06:52] <Styles> I had that issue and fixed it
[06:52] <camels> lol, i know
[06:52] <Styles> AMD 7870
[06:52] <Styles> What's your issue?
[06:52] <camels> Hmm 6800 here
[06:53] <Styles> You are using the open source drivers, right?
[06:53] <camels> Well, after setting the correct video settings  and window mode it keeps crashing
[06:53] <camels> ugh..no. I'm currently updating to the latest ATI drivers
[06:53] <camels> Sorry. AMD*
[06:53] <Styles> kk yeah
[06:54] <camels> Which ones do you recommend?
[06:54] <Styles> humm what resolution are you setting it to
[06:54] <Styles> I'm running fine w/ their stable release
[06:54] <camels> 1920x1200
[06:54] <mumpitzel> camels: the ones that come with your ubuntu
[06:54] <Styles> The betas were crashing a little for me
[06:55] <camels> mumpitzel: when I tried to start a game using the stable AMD drivers the game crashed.
[06:55] <camels> well, sorry, when i tried to play a game. the client will load.
[06:55] <Styles> ah I haven't even tried to play, since it'd be against bots
[06:55] <Styles> I've been playing in Wine though
[06:56] <LizardKing> wine is a bit iffy
[06:56] <LizardKing> bit its good
[06:56] <camels> Can't you play versus other people with the test client?
[06:56] <Styles> Yeah we have 700 people online lol
[06:56] <Styles> which is nothing in the dota world
[06:56] <camels> lol...1 hour queue?
[06:56] <LizardKing> lol
[06:56] <Styles> probably
[06:57] <arquebus> varunendra: I dont know if the drive is FAT
[06:57] <Styles> Also the stats are different :(
[06:57] <Styles> I'm like nerd level 80 or something
[06:58] <varunendra> arquebus, please post the pastebin link to the output of "mount" command.
[06:58] <varunendra> when the flash drive is plugged in..
[06:58] <camels> Well, I'm current updating to the 13.4 AMD drivers..if that doesn't work I'll revert to the stable proprietary fglrx drivers..
[06:58] <Styles> god speaking of mount issues. I have a microsoft dynamic disk :(
[06:58] <LizardKing> lmao
[06:58] <Styles> camels, I think it's a Dota issue
[06:59] <Styles> Before you do that
[06:59] <camels> Yeah?
[06:59] <Styles> Try some command line options like
[06:59] <Styles> yeah it was reported on github
[06:59] <wilee-nilee> Styles, Did you make it dynamic by accident?
[06:59] <Styles> YES :(
[06:59] <LizardKing> that sucks
[06:59] <camels> Styles, if you can find the specific thread, I'd appreciate it.
[06:59] <wilee-nilee> Styles, That is fixable
[06:59] <camels> the ATL FIre GL drivers acted the worse with dota 2
[06:59] <Styles> camels, yeah one sec
[07:00] <Styles> wilee-nilee, how? I don't have windows installed anymore anddddd the drives are internal
[07:00] <wilee-nilee> Styles, Hold on let me find it.
[07:00] <Styles> I did see some fix w/ MiniTool or some parition tool by a 3rd party, but you had to have windows
[07:00] <Styles> kk
[07:00] <arquebus> varunendra: here you go: http://pastebin.com/CE3R7h4M
[07:00] <Styles> camels, https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota-2/issues/31 here's one where the game crashes before start lol
[07:01] <Styles> https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Dota-2/issues/70
[07:01] <camels> Styles: I wonder if it is just an issue with older processors and SSSE3
[07:01] <camels> I'm using a phenom black x6
[07:02] <Styles> camels, I think I did see something in the requirements about 2.8 GHz min or something that I was like woah weird
[07:02] <camels> Yeah, but that shouldn't cause the program to crash.
[07:03] <Styles> yeah no it shouldn't
[07:03] <Styles> and the requirements are Dual core from Intel or AMD at 2.8 GHz
[07:03] <Styles>  nVidia GeForce 8600/9600GT, ATI/AMD Radeaon HD2600/3600 (Graphic Drivers: nVidia 310, AMD 12.11), OpenGL 2.1
[07:03] <wheatthin> can you turn off hyperthreading in bios?
[07:03] <Styles> http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=96878
[07:03] <wheatthin> and try
[07:04] <Styles> btw so far 10 min queue
[07:04] <camels> Styles: Yeah, I should think it's not such an isolated incident since it's a beta and so many other users are reporting similar problems
[07:04] <Styles> camels, can you watch a live game?
[07:05] <varunendra> arquebus, Are you the first user on this system? If not sure, please post the pastebin link of "id" command.
[07:05] <camels> I haven't test it yet. I need to check if my drivers are done.
[07:05] <Styles> camels, no honestly at this stag the client is more buggy than when it first released on windows lol
[07:05] <Styles> Yeah I can watch games btw
[07:06] <arquebus> varunendra: uid=1000(frath) gid=1000(frath) groups=1000(frath),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),107(lpadmin),125(sambashare)
[07:06] <camels> What's your fps? I can show you how to obtain it
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> Styles, I can't find it but if you make a thread with dynamic at the ubuntu forums they ones that know will stop by.
[07:07] <Styles> camels, let me restart w/ console
[07:07] <Styles> wilee-nilee, askubuntu or the ubuntu forum
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> Styles, dynamic in the header.
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu forums
[07:07] <Styles> kk
[07:08] <Styles> I wont lose data?
[07:08] <camels> Styles: alright.
[07:08] <wilee-nilee> Styles, Easy fixes in windows if you have friend with one..
[07:08] <ktosiek> Hi! I'm on Ubuntu raring (13.04). When I try to resolve in-VPN domain and it fails, I can't resolved it even after connecting to the VPN
[07:08] <ktosiek> and service network-manager restart doesn't help
[07:08] <Styles> wilee-nilee, I have a laptop but they are internal drives and it's two drives so that wont work
[07:08] <varunendra> arquebus, everything looks fine. What do you mean by "locked"? You should have read/write permission on it. You can not 'change' permissions on a fat32 partition though, that filesystem doesn't support permissions.
[07:09] <arquebus> varunendra: well there are little lock icons on each file in the flash drive
[07:10] <varunendra> arquebus, can you open files or create new ones?
[07:10] <Styles> camels, stable 30fps
[07:11] <arquebus> varunendra: yes I can open files but not create them
[07:11] <Styles> in game I seem to get ~40-60 fps
[07:12] <varunendra> arquebus, do you get any error message while creating new files?
[07:13] <arquebus> varunendra: yes, the message just says: "error creating new file"
[07:13] <varunendra> :P
[07:14] <binaryhermit> Sounds to me like the filesystem on that drive is corrupt
[07:14] <Thetenthdr> varunendra, still nothing on the wifi
[07:16] <varunendra> arquebus, what binaryhermit said^^. Your user group id and the mount permissions are matching. So there may be a corrupt filesystem issue.
[07:16] <camels> Styles, sorry the AMD drivers locked up
[07:17] <ktosiek> is there any reliable way to clear all DNS caches?
[07:17] <arquebus> varunendra: ok, well thanks for your help. As I said, I remember there was an easy fix for this last time, I thought this problem would be common and there would be a quick fix
[07:17] <Thetenthdr> It still says its not a 64 bit driver, and it is also still trying to load the windows 7 driver I tried earlier.
[07:18] <varunendra> arquebus, if you doubt permissions, you may try opening nautilus as root (CAREFUL, Can be Dangerous). But if you can read the files, I'd suggest to just copy them locally, them reformat the drive.
[07:19] <arquebus> varunendra: ok, I'll look into that, thx
[07:20] <Thetenthdr> Ill take another stab at this tomorrow, thanks for help Varunendra
[07:20] <Thetenthdr> Take care, everyone
[07:20] <camels> Have a good night/day!
[07:26] <gribouille> hi
[07:27] <gribouille> I get the following message from the kernel : "INFO: task rsync:4360 blocked for more than 120 seconds." and the system freezes completely. what dodes that mean?
[07:29] <camels> Ugh, dota 2 keeps crashing when I try to load a game.
[07:45] <chemaher76> good morning all :)
[07:53] <lost_and_unfound> greetings all, are there any UDP server you could recommend? Looking for a simple server that will listen on port XXXX and forward the incoming string to another script ?
[07:53] <ray2> Ubuntu 12.04lts...This a dual boot with Puppy Linux Mbr on sda1 lost grub Error grub rescue..used live cd and ran boot repair..repair changed grub to version 0.97 and installed to sdb1..and changed Ubuntu partition sda3..corrected the partition but now getting error kernel panic not syncing no init found during Ubuntu boot
[07:55] <somsip> lost_and_unfound: FWIW, this points on one direction http://is.gd/vYcC7g
[07:56] <somsip> *in
[07:57] <lost_and_unfound> somsip: i was hoping there was some 'generic' server that I could utilize. Seems however I will need to write my own little script. This is for a Raspberry pi, so resources are a bit limited as well. Thanks for the link
[07:58] <somsip> lost_and_unfound:fair enough. This C stub any good for you? http://is.gd/pjs5I6
[08:00] <lost_and_unfound> somsip: seems like I am possibly going to go the perl/php route for this project. Thanks for the inputs
[08:00] <somsip> lost_and_unfound: okeydokey
[08:16] <xiaoy> how come aerosnap effect doesn't work well in unity?
[08:18] <wilee-nilee> xiaoy, How is acting?
[08:18] <wilee-nilee> it*
[08:18] <chunkyhead> how the hell do i remove the twitter icon? it's somehow connected to my twitter account, whenever i open it it's up. http://screencloud.net/v/xwU9
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, No right click remove from panel?
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> the panel is for showing open apps
[08:22] <xiaoy> wilee-nilee, well, wen i drag back the window on the senter of the screen it keeps the same size as when it was maximized on the side of the screen...
[08:23] <phix> hey, Rythmbox seems to freeze sometimes when playing a song over SMB or the current playback time is moving forward but I can't hear anything
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> xiaoy, It works pretty much the same as windows you have to drag from the top down, break the box so to speak, if you just slide it it keeps that shape, if I understand you here,
[08:25] <Bower^Work> what's a good FTP program that encrypts passwords (e.g. not filezilla)?
[08:25] <wilee-nilee> hmm, actually mine by sliding goes to the shape before
[08:27] <wilee-nilee> xiaoy, Have you messed around with compiz?
[08:28] <xiaoy> wilee-nilee, when i drag it down, only if I stop holding the mouse's left click and then i click again to bring the window on the center of the screen it actually brings back the original size of the window...
[08:28] <xiaoy> wilee-nilee, not at all...
[08:31] <chunkyhead> wilee-nilee: when i right click and close, even my twitter tab on mozilla gets shut
[08:31] <wilee-nilee> xiaoy, Compiz is the area you can mess with it though, I use the gnome-shell so I can't show you exactly where. you would install the compizconfig settings manager and if you wanted the plugins.
[08:34] <wilee-nilee> there is a unity-tweak tool, not sure if it has anything for that effect but other cool tweaks
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> chunkyhead, They are attached it seems I don't use twitter, but I'm not surprised, anyway good luck I have to crash.
[08:47] <NoFace> ping me !
[08:47] <NoFace> !ping me
[08:51] <cretsiah> so im using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, how do i go about live recording my desktop? what program do i use/need to install?
[08:52] <wheatthin> something like recordmydesktop
[08:53] <cretsiah> nice to know its that simple lol......
[08:53] <h4ml3t> hi all
[08:53] <wheatthin> !hi
[08:53] <korn36> cretsiah: you can also use ffmpeg to capture from command-line
[08:55] <wheatthin> lol :)
[08:55] <aga^_^> hii
[08:56] <aga^_^> anyone tried xmir desktop
[08:56] <wheatthin> not I
[08:56] <aga^_^> :D
[08:57] <aga^_^> unity composer cant run on my laptop
[08:57] <ikonia> mir isn't in the stable ubuntu release at the moment
[08:59] <korn36> why use unity?
[08:59] <korn36> there are better desktop environments
[08:59] <ikonia> because you like it
[08:59] <ikonia> use what you like
[09:00] <korn36> i know
[09:00] <korn36> aga: you can try to use unity 2d
[09:00] <korn36> maybe it will work
[09:00] <ikonia> korn36: he's not asking for unity 2d
[09:00] <wheatthin> can always try xfce4 :)
[09:01] <wheatthin> lightweight and has a lil eyecandy
[09:01] <korn36> or gnome3
[09:02] <llutz> or one of those xx hundred other WM/DE on earth. pls stop this "i like ... better" if someone only mentions unity
[09:03] <korn36> @aga: Unity should work with xmir. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sITIVLcXrc
[09:05] <ikonia> again mir is not in the stable ubuntu.....
[09:05] <ikonia> so it's pointless to suggest it
[09:09] <Bower^Work> any idea why my terminal window(s) don't appear in the launcher?
[09:10] <wheatthin> in unity? did you type "terminal" ?
[09:12] <korn36> @ikonia: but i think that there are some unofficial mir packages
[09:12] <wheatthin> korn36, unofficial meaning none stable yet
[09:13] <ikonia> korn36: have you done any research on mir at all ?
[09:13] <korn36> no, i just googled it
[09:14] <ikonia> ok, so really should be suggesting it and suggesting unstable packages without any real research
[09:14] <Voldemort> Hello everybody.
[09:14] <ikonia> if you don't know, why not just not advise, rather than hit google and parrot it
[09:14] <Bower^Work> yes wheatthin
[09:14] <Bower^Work> the terminal is open, icon just doesn't appear in the launcher
[09:15] <wheatthin> you can drag it to the dock
[09:15] <Voldemort> bower^work, I believe that is a perf_events() problem.
[09:15] <wheatthin> or launcher or whatever
[09:15] <Voldemort> as memset could have been triggered, according to your kernel configurations.
[09:15] <Voldemort> Mind if I ask for your "uname -a" output?
[09:16] <Bower^Work> Voldemort, Linux dbpc 3.2.0-49-generic #75-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 18 17:39:32 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:16] <Bower^Work> wheatthin, that doesn't work
[09:16] <Voldemort> That is quite, an old-as-hell kernel.
[09:16] <wheatthin> If you just installed your installation, then try to update first plz
[09:16] <Voldemort> Update your kernel, boy.
[09:16] <Bower^Work> i have updated :/
[09:16] <Voldemort> wheattin, that's what I am trying to say.
[09:16] <ikonia> Voldemort: no  it's not
[09:16] <Voldemort> bower^work, hold on.
 @aga: Unity should work with xmir. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sITIVLcXrc =>> i installed mir on my ubuntu 13.10 desktop, but some apps cannto run correctly and unity-system-compositor cant run
[09:17] <ikonia> aga^_^: hence "unstable" and "in development"
[09:17] <Voldemort> bower^work; https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/linux-3.9.9.tar.gz
[09:17] <Voldemort> that is the latest kernel.
[09:17] <Voldemort> released yesterday.
[09:17] <FloodBot1> Voldemort: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:17] <aga^_^> wew
[09:17] <ikonia> Voldemort: please don't suggest such silly things
[09:17] <iceroot_> Voldemort: 3.2 is the kernel from 12.04.0/1
[09:17] <DJones> Voldemort: That may have been released yesterday, but it is an official Ubuntu package?
[09:17] <ikonia> Bower^Work: there is zero reason to update your kernel
[09:17] <Bower^Work> i have absolutely no idea how to install a new kernel
[09:18] <wheatthin> Bower^Work, just use update manager, and see if that'll give a fix
[09:18] <Voldemort> Don't flatter me.
[09:18] <ikonia> Bower^Work: if there is an update available for your ubuntu version - ubuntu will offer an update
[09:18] <iceroot_> Voldemort: we only support stbale releases from the ubuntu-repos
[09:18] <Voldemort> anyways, use update-manager.
[09:18] <Voldemort> I see, iceroot_.
[09:18] <Voldemort> I get your point.
[09:18] <iceroot_> Bower^Work: dont install a newer kernel
[09:18] <Voldemort> I am the developer of ArchLinux, just letting you know.
[09:18] <Voldemort> :)
[09:18] <iceroot_> Bower^Work: everything is fine with the kernel you are using
[09:18] <iceroot_> Voldemort: ubuntu is not a rolling release
[09:18] <wheatthin> that has nothign to do with ubuntu :)
[09:19] <ikonia> arch: then I expect better more mature support rather than such silly suggestions
[09:19] <x87> alright.
[09:19] <x87> ikonia; This is an support channel, I believe. not an argument channel.
[09:19] <ikonia> x87: yes, "good" "thought through" support in the best interest of the user
[09:19] <iceroot_> x87: then give useful support
[09:19] <Bower^Work> iceroot_, any idea why my terminal window(s) don't appear on the launcher?
[09:19] <iceroot_> x87: we dont care about arch, kernel 3.9.9 or something like that
[09:19] <Bower^Work> sure it was working yesterday
[09:20] <wheatthin> Bower^Work, no clue, but if you check to see if there's an update, usually that sorts it
[09:20] <iceroot_> Bower^Work: you mean if you start "gnome-terminal" its not in the left icon-bar?
[09:20] <Bower^Work> i press windows key -> "terminal"
[09:20] <x87> lol, windows key
[09:21] <x87> bower^work, one does not simply say windows in #ubuntu.
[09:21] <Bower^Work> it has a window on the key :)
[09:21] <iceroot_> x87: could you stop that please?
[09:21] <ikonia> x87: stop talking now please.
[09:21] <auronandace> Bower^Work: its usually referred to as super key
[09:21] <Bower^Work> i'll keep that in mind for linux stuff, thanks
[09:21] <kao> hi
[09:22] <iceroot_> Bower^Work: so you mean when you type in "terminal" there is no result
[09:22] <kao> i have problem,why does not the terminal appear in my unity?
[09:22] <kao> my unity is empty
[09:22] <kao> no icons showi ng
[09:22] <x87> kao; do rm -rf /
[09:22] <curfont> Does vncserver work with gnome in 13?
[09:22] <x87> and it'll fix it
[09:22] <kao> ok
[09:22] <Bower^Work> iceroot_, no, the terminal loads of fine. the icon just doesn't appear on my launcher
[09:22] <iceroot_> !op | x87
[09:22] <ikonia> kao: don't run that
[09:23] <ikonia> ahh kao was the same person
[09:24] <curfont> I have been readin the trigger to start gnome has changed like 4 times from 10 to 12 to 13
[09:24] <wheatthin> gnome or unity?
[09:24] <iceroot_> Bower^Work: when you press "alt + tab" the terminal is showing in that overview?
[09:24] <curfont> I would prefer just plain old gnome
[09:24] <iceroot_> curfont: use the fallback session of gnome3
[09:24] <curfont> I have gnome-session-fallback & after SESSION_MANAGER
[09:24] <curfont> and then gnome-panel
[09:24] <Bower^Work> iceroot_, interesting. no it doesn't
[09:24] <curfont> still doesn't work and I feel I am missing something
[09:25] <iceroot_> Bower^Work: but the terminal itself is there after you click on terminal in the search results?
[09:25] <Bower^Work> iceroot_, yup. i basically just need to minimise windows to find it
[09:25] <curfont> iceroot_: http://pastebin.ca/2425218
[09:26] <PeterPan> Did Kai actually run that command?
[09:26] <ikonia> no
[09:26] <ikonia> he was the same person as the person who suggested it
[09:26] <PeterPan> thank god
[09:26] <ikonia> so don't worry about it
[09:26] <iceroot_> curfont: and gnome-session-fallback is installed? (at the moment i am not on ubuntu so i cant check if it is an etxra package or something like that)
[09:27] <ikonia> plus it wouldn't have done a huge ammount anyway
[09:27] <iceroot_> PeterPan: that command is not doing anything on bash
[09:27] <iceroot_> even zsh is not running that command
[09:27] <curfont> "gnome-session-fallback is already the newest version"
[09:28] <cretsiah> Bower^Work:  are you using 12.04 LTS?, cos  after i launched terminal i then right clicked it on the launcher panel and pinned it there... that way i wouldnt have to search for it
[09:28] <curfont> where the heck does vnc spit out it's logs
[09:28] <Bower^Work> cretsiah, that's actually how i had it. however when i clicked on the icon it did load a new terminal window but i was unable to access already open terminals using it
[09:28] <Bower^Work> seeing as it was working fine yesterday i'll just try a reset shortly
[09:30] <cretsiah> oh sorry thats kinda beyond me :( if you already had open terminals im still trying to get used to the differences like that...
[09:32] <wheatthin> Bower^Work, did you already try running the updates through the terminal that you do have access to?
[09:32] <Bower^Work> wheatthin, how do i update through the terminal?
[09:33] <Bower^Work> i usually use the little update pop-up
[09:33] <wheatthin> Bower^Work, run, sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[09:33] <Bower^Work> wheatthin, thanks dude
[09:33] <ilmerovingio> hi, sorry but i don't understand if the new 12.04.3 release will be shipped with the new 3.5 kernel by default or not
[09:33] <wheatthin> sorry, use sudo apt-get upgrade*
[09:33] <ikonia> ilmerovingio: "new" ?
[09:34] <iceroot_> ilmerovingio: 12.04.2 and higher will come with a newer kernel
[09:34] <iceroot_> ilmerovingio: 12.04.0 and 12.04.1 will have 3.2
[09:34] <ilmerovingio> ikonia: the release will be on 15 August 2013
[09:34] <iceroot_> !info linux-image-generic precise
[09:34] <iceroot_> what was the name? linux-image-generic-backports-xx?
[09:35] <iceroot_> the default meta-package for 12.04.2
[09:35] <ilmerovingio> iceroot_: by default now 12.04.2 has 3.2
[09:36] <iceroot_> ilmerovingio: no
[09:36] <iceroot_> ilmerovingio: when you install 12.04.2 you will have 3.5, when you install 12.04.0/1 and upgrade to 12.04.2 you will have 3.2
[09:36] <iceroot_> ilmerovingio: the cd from 12.04.2 is using a different meta-package for the kernel
[09:36] <iceroot_> linux-image-generic-lts-backpotrs-xxx something like that is the name
[09:37] <ikonia> backports.......
[09:37] <iceroot_> !info linux-generic-lts-quantal
[09:37] <wheatthin> I believe you can update to 3.8 without having to do the actual release upgrade correct?
[09:37] <iceroot_> !info linux-generic-lts-quantal precise
[09:37] <ikonia> wheatthin: what ?
[09:37] <iceroot_> linux-generic-lts-quantal is the metapackage which is used in 12.04.2
[09:38] <iceroot_> so 12.04.2 installations will have a different kernel then 12.04.0/1
[09:38] <iceroot_> only have a german link at the moment http://www.thomas-krenn.com/de/wiki/Ubuntu_12.04.2_LTS_Enablement_Stack_liefert_neuen_Kernel
[09:38] <wheatthin> ikonia, can you update to the 3.8 kernel without having to do the next release upgrade?
[09:39] <iceroot_> wheatthin: with backports or a ppa
[09:39] <ikonia> wheatthin: what ??? how is that even practical ?
[09:39] <ikonia> wheatthin: the whole point is the release picks a kernel and maintains that kernel for the duration of the release.
[09:39] <wheatthin> hmm it has nothing to do with what these people are talking about, it was a direct question
[09:39] <iceroot_> wheatthin: but normally there is no reason to have 3.8 if 3.2 or 3.5 are running fine
[09:39] <ikonia> wheatthin: so a release offering a 3.2 kernel is not going to offer a 3.8 package designed for tht release.
[09:40] <iceroot_> ikonia: only on lts releases you will have newer kernels
[09:40] <ikonia> iceroot_: this is the first one to do so
[09:40] <wheatthin> without doing a release upgrade, it shows it in the repo, so I dunno
[09:40] <iceroot_> which are supported
[09:40] <ikonia> iceroot_: previous ones have not
[09:40] <iceroot_> ikonia: yes
[09:40] <ikonia> wheatthin: what version are you doing this on
[09:40] <wheatthin> 12.04.2
[09:40] <ikonia> wheatthin: so you're saying it's offering you a 3.8 kernel package ?
[09:40] <iceroot_> wheatthin: and at the moment you have 3.2 or 3.5?
[09:40] <wheatthin> yup
[09:41] <wheatthin> 3.5
[09:41] <wheatthin> atm
[09:41] <iceroot_> wheatthin: and what is wrong with 3.5?
[09:41] <ikonia> wheatthin: what repos do you have enbled ?
[09:41] <wheatthin> default
[09:41] <ikonia> wheatthin: as there is no 3.8 package for 12.04
[09:41] <ikonia> wheatthin: no, sorry
[09:41] <ikonia> that can't be right then
[09:41] <ikonia> there is no 3.8 kernel package for 12.04 in the main repos
[09:42] <wheatthin> ok.. I guess I'm seeing things
[09:42] <iceroot_> !info linux-generic-lts-raring precise
[09:42] <iceroot_> there we go, kernel 3.8 in 12.04.2
[09:42] <wheatthin> :)
[09:42] <iceroot_> as it seems all kernels are "backported" into the main-repos of lts-releases now
[09:42] <ikonia> right, thats the raring kernel though
[09:42] <iceroot_> ikonia: in the 12.04 repos
[09:43] <ikonia> yes, but it's not the precise kernel
[09:43] <ikonia> it's a back port of the raring kernel....
[09:43] <iceroot_> wheatthin: but you only will have 3.8 when you install a new metapackage, 12.04 will NEVER ask to install 3.8 without installing a new meta-package
[09:43] <iceroot_> and i guess 12.04.3 will have 3.8 as default with the mete-package of raring
[09:44] <ikonia> I doubt it
[09:44] <kostkon_> ikonia: it will be the kernel of 12.04.3 like 3.5 was the kernel of 12.04.2
[09:44] <ikonia> we'll see, but I don't believe so
[09:44] <iceroot_> ikonia: i did not belive it either on 12.04.2
[09:44] <ikonia> I guess we'll find out
[09:44] <iceroot_> +1
[09:45] <iceroot_> and in the biggest nightmares they will backport MIR to 12.04 :)
[09:46] <ilmerovingio> iceroot_: i've now run an instance on amazon web services with the 12.04.2 image (provided by canonical) and there's still the 3.2 kernel
[09:46] <ilmerovingio> 3.2.0-40-virtual
[09:46] <wheatthin> can I ask what a meta-package is without getting my head ripped off?
[09:46] <Guest76587> need help : installed ubuntu 13.04 on sony vaio vgn cs14g. having problems with ethernet. I have wired internet connection and it works fine for sometime, then the internet stops working. I am unable to access the network when this happens as well. Tried disabling networking and reenabling it , tried reinserting the cable, only works after reboot
[09:46] <ikonia> -virtual....
[09:47] <iceroot_> wheatthin: it is a package which is not having any content, it will just install other packages
[09:47] <wheatthin> would it tell you if it'll install other packages with -s option?
[09:47] <ikonia> wheatthin: think of it as a pointer to another package,
[09:47] <iceroot_> wheatthin: like "ubuntu-desktop" that package does NOT contain unity and so on but it will pull unity, libreoffice, firefox and so on. its just a big listing of dependencies
[09:48] <iceroot_> wheatthin: in debian they call them "dummy-package" if i am correct
[09:48] <wheatthin> I just installed 3.8 package without it installing any other packages.
[09:48] <iceroot_> wheatthin: please dont install a kernel directly, always use the metapackage
[09:48] <iceroot_> wheatthin: without the metapackage you will not get security-updates, the correct headers, modules and so on
[09:48] <ikonia> wheatthin: so that suggests the metapackage for the kenrnel points at the 3.8 backport, which seems very unlikely
[09:49] <iceroot_> wheatthin: for 12.04 there are 3 metapackages, linux-image-generic (3.2) linux-generic-lts-oneric (3.5) linux-generic-lts-raring (3.8)
[09:50] <Bower^Work> thanks for the help earlier guys, terminal has reappeared :)
[09:50] <iceroot_> Bower^Work: what was the reason?
[09:50] <wheatthin> your welcome
[09:51] <Guest76587> need help : installed ubuntu 13.04 on sony vaio vgn cs14g. having problems with ethernet. I have wired internet connection and it works fine for sometime, then the internet stops working. I am unable to access the network when this happens as well. Tried disabling networking and reenabling it , tried reinserting the cable, only works after reboot . the ethernet driver is sky2
[09:51] <Bower^Work> iceroot_, i'm not entirely sure. basically apt-get update && apt-get upgrade then resetting seemed to sort it
[09:51] <iceroot_> Bower^Work: hm ok
[09:51] <wheatthin> :)
[09:51] <iceroot_> Bower^Work: for the latest security updates you should always use dist-upgrade instead of upgrade or use the software-center-dialog which is offering updates
[09:52] <vegombrei> oye kamal you here ??
[09:52] <wheatthin> either way, it's working now, and now he can run the updates regularly
[09:52] <kostkon_> wheatthin: you can install the whole raring or quantal stack not jusf the kernel. part of the lts hardwarw enablement stack. check here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[09:53] <Guest76587> vegombrei - - yes
[09:53] <iceroot_> wheatthin: i would suggest to NOT install a newer kernel or x-server if everything is fine for you
[09:53] <iceroot_> wheatthin: that killed my system after installing a new x-server (which is part of the quantal stack)
[09:54] <vegombrei> Guest76587: ask your question here
[09:55] <wheatthin> I'm not looking to install a new x-server.. I just asked about the 3.8 kernel.. I got my answer. I get you cannot receive security updates, but as for getting a running kernel without a bunch of other stuff, this worked just fine for me (not that I'm suggesting it to anybody else).
[09:55] <iceroot_> wheatthin: of course you will get security updates for 3.8
[09:55] <Guest76587> need help : installed ubuntu 13.04 on sony vaio vgn cs14g. having problems with ethernet. I have wired internet connection and it works fine for sometime, then the internet stops working. I am unable to access the network when this happens as well. Tried disabling networking and reenabling it , tried reinserting the cable, only works after reboot . the ethernet driver is sky2
[09:55] <iceroot_> wheatthin: when you install the meta-package for 3.8 and not the kernel package directly
[09:55] <wheatthin> so it won't say it when running uname -ar?
[09:56] <ikonia> wheatthin: you don't need "r" -a is everthing
[09:56] <wheatthin> Linux ubuntu 3.8.0-26-generic #38~precise2-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 20 16:06:21 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[09:56] <iceroot_> wheatthin: output of "dpkg -l linux-generic-lts-raring"
[09:57] <iceroot_> wheatthin: please put it to pastebin
[09:57] <wheatthin> No packages found matching linux-generic-lts-raring.
[09:57] <ikonia> wheatthin: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[09:58] <chunkyhead> is there a cli app to find out md5 sum and difference of files?
[09:58] <ikonia> chunkyhead: md5um
[09:58] <llutz> chunkyhead: diff
[09:58] <wheatthin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5864390/
[09:58] <vegombrei> Guest76587: did you get your answer?
[09:59] <Sach> Any suggestions for lightweight software for a scanner that allows yu to change the contrast of the scan? I've tried Simple Scan and Skanlite but neither has this option
[09:59] <chunkyhead> ikonia: can't find out the package using apt-cache search, any repo i might need to add?
[10:00] <ikonia> chunkyhead: md5sum is part of the system
[10:00] <llutz> chunkyhead: "coreutils" contains md5sum
[10:00] <ikonia> coreutils shuld be insalled by default
[10:00] <llutz> hence the name
[10:00] <chunkyhead> llutz: diff will give me difference line by line, i wanna find out differnce between 2 md5sums ikonia
[10:01] <chunkyhead> ikonia: yeah found it. what all formats i can feed in it?
[10:01] <ikonia> chunkyhead: any you want
[10:03] <chunkyhead> ikonia: let me quickly have a look
[10:04] <Guest76587> quit
[10:05] <Guest76587> exit
[10:05] <vegombrei> how do i know if a certain file exists in aptget?
[10:05] <chunkyhead> vegombrei: apt-cache search <packname>
[10:06] <llutz> vegombrei: apt-file search xxx
[10:06] <chunkyhead> vegombrei: or apt-cache show <packname> (use this if u are sure of the package name)
[10:20] <greek> Hi fellas. I have an ubuntu server. I'd like to "name" it somehow, so that when I open my browser and type in "example.com" in the address bar, it goes to my ubuntu server. I've already set the hosts file on my windows machine to point to its IP.
[10:22] <sw> greek: Have you set it's '$ hostname' on the server? Have you added the relevant DNS records in to whatever domain name you want to point to it? Forwarded ports locally if that's also required? etc.
[10:22] <greek> sw: ok let's start with the hostname, where do i set that?
[10:22] <sw> !hostname | greek
[10:23] <sw> greek: Note that you'll probably only receive help here for the first part (setting the hostname), the rest are really irrelevant to Ubuntu support.
[10:23] <greek> sw: ok thanks. should i set the hostname to www.example.com or to just example.com ?
[10:24] <sw> greek: Neither, as I would guess you don't own example.com.
[10:24] <greek> sw: it's another domain :) I'm just wondering whether the hostname must include the www prefix
[10:25] <Offshore> guys
[10:25] <Offshore> im building headless custom arm device (AllWinner A11)
[10:25] <sw> greek: Well that's up to you isn't it? There's no reason why you need to call it www. though. You can have a server called 'server1.servers.co.uk' and it could host a website 'www.something-else.co.uk'. It doesn't really make much difference.
[10:25] <Offshore> got kernel compiled, it runs with debian rootfs perfectly
[10:26] <greek> sw: oh ok i see what you mean. ok thanks for the help. i'll take my other questions to #linux
[10:26] <sw> greek: They aren't related to Linux.
[10:26] <Offshore> but when i try ubuntu 13.04 armhf core, i cant boot due to plymouth
[10:26] <greek> sw: #networking then?
[10:26] <sw> greek: DNS? #bind, maybe - depending on your DNS server? Local ports? Manufacturers website?
[10:27] <greek> sw: ok cool thanks :)
[10:27] <greek> does ubuntu have a recommend ftp server btw?
[10:27] <greek> (i need to ftp into this box)
[10:27] <sw> greek: Use sftp.
[10:27] <greek> k
[10:27] <sw> !sftp | greek
[10:27] <Offshore> or sshfs
[10:28] <sw> greek: And you probably don't _need_ to SFTP to anything.
[10:28] <Offshore> so
[10:29] <Offshore> ...
init: plymouth main process (50) killed by ABRT signal
init: plymouth-splash main process (243) terminated with status 2
[10:29] <greek> sw: I'm basically just setting up this server as a dev box on my LAN, which I can FTP into to upload website files for testing (before uploading them to live server)
init: failsafe main process (291) killed by TERM signal
init: plymouth-stop pre-start process (414) terminated with status 1
[10:29] <Offshore> on my uart
[10:29] <FloodBot1> Offshore: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:29] <Offshore> and it totally hangs
[10:29] <sw> greek: Yeah, so: 11:27 < sw> greek: And you probably don't _need_ to SFTP to anything.
[10:30] <greek> sw: so does that mean I shouldn't install sftp? I'm struggling to interpret your earlier response to my question "does ubuntu have a recommend ftp server btw?"
[10:30] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:31] <sw> greek: SFTP is not FTP. Read that link that ubottu told you, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_File_Transfer_Protocol.
[10:32] <greek> Ok thanks
[10:37] <jehangir> vegombrei: hi how you doing
[10:38] <vegombrei> jehangir: hey im fine how you doing?
[10:41] <dn5> Hello everyone
[10:43] <lonston> Need a small help buddies , a server running With nginx and now i want to monitor it from a nagios monitoring server monitoring server ip address is 192.168.1.20 and ngnix running serer is 192.168.1.52 how can i monitor and whts the configuration want to be chabged in nginx server , alreay configured 3 servers and its all running with apache so its easier but nginx is little tuff googled a lot any one have solution ? pls share
[10:47] <blazemore> How can I append a string to the end of each output line when using "tail --follow" ?
[10:47] <vegombrei> cls
[10:59] <blackhawk> screen flickering in ubuntu 13.04 when  booting up
[11:03] <tga> hey, is there any better way of configuring a basic firewall than writing iptables rules by hand?
[11:03] <ikonia> ubuntu firewall
[11:03] <ikonia> "ufwu"
[11:03] <tga> thanks, looking
[11:04] <Pici> ikonia, blackhawk: its actually "uncomplicated firewall" :)
[11:04] <ikonia> sorry that's "ufu"
[11:04] <ikonia> Pici: ahh,
[11:04] <ikonia> ufw
[11:04] <tga> ufw actually
[11:04] <ikonia> I can't type
[11:05] <tga> looking good
[11:06] <jehangir> hi am new to ubuntu. how do i add a shortcut for "applications" in my home folder?
[11:06] <tga> I guess I could go through and write a proper iptables script, but I don't want to lock myself out (this time)
[11:15] <jehangir> hi am new to ubuntu. how do i add a shortcut for "applications" in my home folder? thanks
[11:21] <vegombrei> new ubuntu is very different .. so i dont have to do all that medibuntu thing ... last time i was on 9
[11:24] <vegombrei> how do i know if ubuntu is using the correct drivers for my graphics card? i think it can perform better
[11:27] <Steinar> where is the start button in Unity? Help plz
[11:28] <blazemore> Steinar: top left
[11:30] <Steinar> thanks but I can't find it. When I press the Windows button, some kind of tiles shows up with pictures on them
[11:30] <blazemore> That is correct
[11:30] <cfhowlett> who
[11:30] <cfhowlett> !who
[11:30] <vegombrei> how do i know if ubuntu is using the correct drivers for my graphics card? i think it can perform better
[11:30] <blazemore> cfhowlett: Ironically, I'm not sure if you were talking to me
[11:31] <cfhowlett> !patience|vegombrei,
[11:31] <blazemore> vegombrei: Check in Software Sources -> Additional Drivers tab
[11:31] <cfhowlett> blazemore, I wasn't specifically but if the hat fits ...
[11:32] <blazemore> vegombrei: If additional drivers are available there will be an option there to install them
[11:34] <sanworld> helo
[11:34] <sanworld> anyone is here
[11:34] <sanworld> help
[11:34] <blazemore> !anyone | sanworld
[11:35] <cfhowlett> !details|sanworld,   state your issue
[11:35] <chunkyhead> sanworld: just ask your question, this channel is always up :)
[11:35] <sanworld> I have a problem in installing vlc
[11:36] <blazemore> What probem sanworld ?
[11:36] <chunkyhead> sanworld: which version of ubuntu are you running ?
[11:36] <sanworld> i am not able to install vlc player in my ubuntu 10.04
[11:36] <chunkyhead> sanworld: try sudo apt-get install vlc on terminal
[11:37] <blazemore> sanworld: Ubuntu 10.04 has been unsupported since May 9th 2013
[11:37] <sanworld> chunkyhead:i am installing using the package
[11:37] <chunkyhead> PS: im not sure 10.04 is stil supported. if your computer meets the
[11:37] <sanworld> yes it is still supported i have checked it
[11:37] <vegombrei> so how do i ask ubuntu to scan what graphics card i have and use an appropriate driver????
[11:37] <blazemore> sanworld: No it's not
[11:38] <blazemore> sanworld: What error do you get when you try to install?
[11:38] <blazemore> vegombrei: Check in Software Sources -> Additional Drivers tab
[11:38] <blazemore> vegombrei: If additional drivers are available there will be an option there to install them
[11:38] <cfhowlett> sanworld, and that's why you're having problems
[11:38] <DJones> sanworld: 10.04 is only supported for servers now, the desktop edition (including GUI is no longer supported)
[11:38] <chunkyhead> sanworld: download ubuntu 12.04 lts if ur computer meets minimum requirements :)
[11:38] <sanworld> ok i will install and upgrade
[11:38] <cfhowlett> sanworld, or try xubuntu/lubuntu 12.04 for older/lower spec computers
[11:39] <cfhowlett> sanworld, best to torrent the ISO and clean install.
[11:39] <chunkyhead> ^true
[11:39] <chunkyhead> btw what interface does lubuntu and xubunt run?
[11:39] <sanworld> ok thanks everybody
[11:39] <blazemore> chunkyhead: lubuntu=lxcd, xubuntu=xfce
[11:39] <cfhowlett> chunkyhead, lubuntu is lxde, xubuntu is xfce4
[11:39] <blazemore> lubuntu=lxde rather
[11:39] <chunkyhead> ah alright. ubuntu also stopped supporting 2d unity. -_- waiting for unity 8 with 13.10
[11:40] <blazemore> sanworld: Why did you install such an old version anyway?
[11:40] <chunkyhead> blazemore: i think he had it pre installed, he's using the machine after long sanworld
[11:40] <sanworld> blazemore because i have 256 mb ram
[11:40] <vegombrei> blazemore: no options available its using Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV770 i dont think thats my graphics card
[11:40] <chunkyhead> best option is lubuntu sanworld  :)
[11:40] <cfhowlett> sanworld, then you really should consider xubuntu or lubuntu rather than ubuntu.
[11:41] <blazemore> vegombrei: If no additional driver is available, it's already using the best version availablein the repositories
[11:41] <cfhowlett> sanworld, and ram is cheap.
[11:41] <blazemore> sanworld: Defintely consider lubuntu
[11:41] <chunkyhead> sanworld: or u can try archlinux. damn light try #archlinux :D
[11:41] <sanworld> can anybody give me the command the command to intall vlc player by using package in offline mode
[11:42] <blazemore> sanworld: If you don't mind not using Ubuntu, Crunchbang is very similar and very lightweight
[11:42] <ikonia> sanworld: why don't you use the gui ?
[11:42] <blazemore> sanworld: Are you getting an error?
[11:42] <blazemore> !details | sanworld, what happens when you try sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:42] <chunkyhead> you need the deb package first, download that, go to the terminal using "cd command" and run "sudo dpkg -i packname.deb" sanworld
[11:42] <sanworld> ikonia: i have not able to connect internet by using my modem
[11:42] <sanworld> that why
[11:42] <ikonia> sanworld: that doens't stop you using the gui
[11:43] <chunkyhead> sanworld: if you cant connect to the internet even sudo apt-get install will not work -_-
[11:43] <sanworld> okey my problem is solve
[11:43] <ikonia> chunkyhead: read what he said, using a local file
[11:43] <vegombrei> blazemore: great thanks ..
[11:44] <chunkyhead> ikonia: yeah but he said earlier he could not install vlc at all. since he can't connect to the internet even apt-get won't work.
[11:44] <ikonia> chunkyhead: yeah, but he said he wanted to install using a local file
[11:44] <sanworld> chunkyhead: thats why i am asking the command
[11:44] <chunkyhead> ikonia: that i already answered. i was just letting him know apt-get wont work without internet
[11:44] <chunkyhead> sanworld: check history i did answer that
[11:44] <chunkyhead> sanworld: you need the deb package first, download that, go to the terminal using "cd command" and run "sudo dpkg -i packname.deb"  sanworld
[11:45] <OerHeks> sanworld, cd /to/the/folder/ && sudo dpkg -i <file.deb>
[11:45] <ikonia> that will not resolve the dependencies
[11:45] <blazemore> sanworld: sudo apt-get --print-uris --yes install vlc | grep ^\' | cut -d\' -f2 > ~/packages.list
[11:45] <sanworld> i have problem in makefile after extracting the vlc package in terminal
[11:45] <sanworld> what to do after that
[11:45]  * cfhowlett ... thinks advising all this work on an unsupported version is questionable
[11:45] <chunkyhead> sanworld: type man cd or man dpkg on terminal for more details
[11:46] <ikonia> sanworld: you should not be using a makefile
[11:46] <blazemore> sanworld: Why are you trying to compile it yourself?
[11:46] <sanworld> ok i will search in google
[11:46] <blazemore> sanworld: What happens when you try to install VLC using the software centre?
[11:46] <ikonia> you don't need to search google
[11:46] <ikonia> you've been given the answer in this channel
[11:47] <blazemore> sanworld: You haven't answered that question and you've been ignoring everyone's correct advice
[11:47] <sanworld> ikonia: ok
[11:47] <cfhowlett> blazemore, as his distro is EOL, I would imagine he get's no response from USC
[11:48] <sanworld> the main problem is with my internet connection so i am installing offline
[11:48] <sanworld> i have install vlc now its working
[11:49] <sanworld> thanks everybody
[11:49] <blazemore> setmeaway: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5864650/
[11:49] <sanworld> blazemore: i got it thanks its works
[11:50] <Offshore> guys
[11:51] <Offshore> how can i disable plymouth on armhf?
[11:51] <ikonia> armhf ?
[11:51] <Offshore> well if i cant disable it -- how can i totally avoid graphics splash?
[11:52] <Offshore> ikonia, see my messages a hour ago when i join the channel
[11:53] <ikonia> Offshore: no, if you can't be bothered to answer, I can't be bothered to help
[11:53] <Offshore> "[14:25] <Offshore> im building headless custom arm device (AllWinner A11)" and so on
[11:53] <cfhowlett> offshore it doesn't work like that
[11:53] <P5151> The NSA got me paranoid, how can i ever be sure Ubuntu is not backdored by the NSA ?
[11:54] <ikonia> P5151: because it's not
[11:54] <P5151> How can i as a user be sure ?
[11:54] <cfhowlett> P5151, roll your own distro?
[11:54] <ikonia> P5151: you can't, you have to trust the provider
[11:54] <ikonia> P5151: so trust it - or don't
[11:54] <cfhowlett> P5151, if your online, you're monitored somewhere.
[11:54] <P5151> cfhowlett: Nice conclusion, but where i am monitored i control myself
[11:54] <antonio_> /home/antonio/Scrivania/xchat/buduscript
[11:55] <Offshore> ikonia, dumped log to private
[11:56] <ikonia> Offshore: not interested
[11:56] <Offshore> mkay :(
[11:56] <P5151> I dont understand why Canonical would allow NSA written code to be in ubuntu repo's
[11:56] <ikonia> P5151: they haven't
[11:56] <P5151> ikonia: they did!
[11:56] <ikonia> P5151: hence why when you said "does it have a n NSA backdoor" I said it doesn't
[11:56] <ikonia> P5151: where ?
[11:56] <P5151> SeLinux is in their repos
[11:56] <murrayuk> Hey, I am having troubles getting skype to work properly and after some googling I find a link to a file that I need to install for it to fix my issue is that the file is a .pkg.tar.xz and I have no idea how to install it... any help?
[11:56] <P5151> and its made by nsa
[11:56] <cfhowlett> P5151, if you had your very own intranet that never faced a public input/output source, I MIGHT agree.  As it is, read your ISP TOS.  Monitoring is part of the service/package.  Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
[11:56] <ikonia> P5151: selinux is a secureity tool, there is no known back door
[11:56] <OerHeks> Offshore, join #ubuntu-arm for your issues
[11:57] <ikonia> P5151: so grow up with this, really
[11:57] <Offshore> OerHeks, yay, thanks
[11:57] <cfhowlett> P5151, but all this is completely offtopic so ... please move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Intelligence agency monitors use algorithms that look for keywords in context with other keywords
[11:57] <P5151> I am talking about ubuntu so its not offtopic
[11:58] <ikonia> P5151: "there is no NSA backdoor in ubuntu" trust it, or use something else
[11:58] <ikonia> P5151: that's as far as this discussion goes
[11:58] <cfhowlett> P5151, this is tech support.  You're not asking for support.  Please move the conversation.
[11:58] <P5151> ikonia: So you tell me that you totally trust the codes made by an agency who spies the world be used in your ubuntu install ?
[11:58] <ikonia> P5151: I trust selinux, yes
[11:58] <murrayuk> Anyone?
[11:58] <ikonia> P5151: and you could just "not use selinux" as selinux is not installed/setup by default on ubuntu
[11:59] <ikonia> P5151: if you don't trust selinux, don't install it
[11:59] <ikonia> most people won't need it on ubuntu anyway
[11:59] <P5151> But i am wondering, what my first question was, how can i be sure there is no other code written by NSA in my ubntu install ?
[11:59] <cfhowlett> murrayuk, your package manager should auto-open those types of files
[11:59] <ikonia> P5151: ok - you need to download everypackage in the repo, and analyise each line of source code, or trust the provider, or use something else
[11:59] <ikonia> P5151: nothing more to discuss
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> P5151  what makes you interesting for NSA ?
[12:00] <murrayuk> When I try and open it in synaptic its greyed out
[12:00] <P5151> MonkeyDust: PRISM ? :)
[12:00] <P5151> And the fact that they backdored all Andoird devices to retreive information
[12:00] <P5151> and thus i dont want nsa code in my OS
[12:00] <ikonia> P5151: discussion oer
[12:00] <ikonia> over
[12:01] <cfhowlett> ikonia, agreed.
[12:01] <P5151> omg the regular irc dictator has arrived :)
[12:01] <schnuffle> P5151: move that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:01] <ikonia> P5151: please don't be rude, you've had your question answered
[12:01] <P5151> Why are you trying to dictate people, i am doing nothing wrong, not insulting anyone
[12:02] <ikonia> P5151: you've just called me a dictator - that is rude
[12:02] <ikonia> P5151: I've had / explained your options for trusting/not trusting ubuntu
[12:02] <ikonia> P5151: discussion complete
[12:02] <cfhowlett> !ot|P5151
[12:02] <P5151> [14:00] <@ikonia> P5151: discussion oer <[12:02] <ikonia> P5151: no, it's telling you it's over as you've had your question answered and prism/android is nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:02] <P5151> for all Ubuntu-related support questions.
[12:02] <auronandace> P5151: seriously, if you are that paranoid why not scour the source yourself?
[12:02] <P5151> Thanks for reminding yourself ikonia
[12:03] <OerHeks> murrayuk, i installed skype trough the website, no need to add extra packages
[12:03] <murrayuk> I installed skype through the website and I get no sound whatsoever
[12:03] <cfhowlett> murrayuk, skype via software center is available
[12:03] <murrayuk> and if I do get sound I then get a audio playback error
[12:03] <cfhowlett> murrayuk, software cetner
[12:05] <wheatthin> murrayuk, not all the software directly from the website will work, that's why they are suggesting you use what's already in the repo
[12:05] <OerHeks> murrayuk, did you install restricted-extra's for codecs, java, flash etc?
[12:09] <torbenk> Hi
[12:09] <torbenk> Trying to find the reason for my huge traffic demand, i found nethogs which tells me that program="unkown TCP" is eating all traffic.
[12:10] <murrayuk> I can't find Skype in the software centre? search isn't bringing up any results for it
[12:10] <torbenk> Is there a trick to find out which process hides behind  "unkown TCP"?
[12:10] <sw> !skype | murrayuk
[12:21] <BlouBlou> is it possible to delete all .jpg files from a folder in recursive mode?
[12:21] <vegombrei> i think i installed the 64 bit ubuntu on a 32 bit laptop ... but its running ok is it entirely necessary to install the 32bit ??
[12:22] <vegombrei> is there a way to check what processor i have if 32 or 64?
[12:22] <OerHeks> vegombrei, you would have a boot error when you try to install 64 bit ubuntu on a 32 bit machine
[12:22] <OerHeks> lscpu
[12:23] <vegombrei> OerHeks: youre saying it will not boot atall right? coz its booting and stuff so i think mebbe its a 64bit
[12:24] <OerHeks> vegombrei, sure is
[12:25] <Agemaniac> Does someone know why i cant use my mouse wheel to scroll in several applications in xfce, like for example gedit?
[12:25] <Agemaniac> its driving me crazy and im just in the brick of smashing my laptop with a hammer sledge
[12:26] <Agemaniac> please save a person form getting fired :(
[12:27] <auronandace> Agemaniac: have you clicked inside the app before you use the scrollwheel?
[12:27] <huttan> BlouBlou: sure .. something like "find /path/to/directory/ -name *.jpg | xargs rm -f"
[12:28] <Agemaniac> auronandace: yes, i can scroll in firefox / chrome but not in gedit / thunar
[12:28] <Agemaniac> auronandace: i tried to google it but didnt find anything
[12:29] <rypervenche> BlouBlou: I would be sure to add -print0 to the find command and -0 to the xargs command. If you have any files with spaces in them it can mess up otherwise.
[12:29] <rypervenche> BlouBlou: Actually, just use the -delete option in find. Much safer.
[12:30] <Pici> rypervenche: thats why using find's -delete is handy if you don't want to start messing with xargs and -print0 for just deleting files
[12:30] <Pici> yes, that.
[12:30] <otak_>  howabout: rm -r <directory>/*.jpg
[12:30] <Noriandir> hi. I'm having a issue when changing from the intel card to the amd using vgaswitcheroo. basically when restarting X, the screen goes black. all is working fine, but there's no backlight... =/
[12:31] <Agemaniac> auronandace: it seems to work if i actually press and hold  the wheel button (click) and then scroll up or down...
[12:31] <schnuffle> Noriandir: shouldn't it be enough to post in one channel?
[12:31] <Agemaniac> but i would like it to work as "normal"
[12:32] <Noriandir> schnuffle, well, yes. But since the other one seams a little bit dorment, i've tried this one too...
[12:32] <Agemaniac> no one can help? :(
[12:36] <otak_> torbenk: netstat -ct  can be useful, or the overwhelming tcpdump
[12:38] <soman> Hi guys. What apps needed by ubuntu? I want to increase my experience using cpp and qt and it would be good if I help to open source. Any offers?
[12:38] <ikonia> soman: just write what you feel is missing, you'd better serve people fixing bugs on exiting products
[12:39] <schnuffle> Agemaniac: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1599988
[12:39] <isiah_s> soman: a graphing tool for octave would be nice
[12:39] <nibbler_> oh,this nethogs is really nice for a quick analysis... i wonder what unknown tcp is....
[12:41] <soman> isiah_s: from octave main page "GNU Octave is normally used through its interactive interface (CLI and GUI)"
[12:42] <sazawal> What is difference between Ethernet and DSL connection that I see in Ubuntu?
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  DSL is the line provided by your ISP, Ethernet a standard for physical cable connections
[12:46] <cylex> anyone got Ubuntu work on Windows 8?
[12:46] <cylex> I mean on a windows 8 machine
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> !uefi | cylex start here
[12:46] <cylex> I got it to work, under oem setup
[12:46] <cylex> thanks
[12:47] <sazawal> MonkeyDust,  I have taken an internet connection, which I hope is broadband. Now it works with DSL connection but not ethernet. They have provided a cable to my home too.
[12:47] <caersith> Can I run ubuntu-sdk on a vbox ubuntu guest? It shows only black screen when I ran the code.
[12:47] <cylex> awesome MonkeyDust, thanks
[12:48] <Agemaniac> ok, that fixed the scrolling in thunar, but still gedit doesnt scoll :(
[12:48] <caersith> It spit bunch of opengl warning
[12:48] <schnuffle> Agemaniac: at least a progress
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  DSL is the line outside your home, between you and your ISP, Ethernet is the connection between your computer and the router
[12:49] <Agemaniac> true that, thanks for the link btw schnuffle :)
[12:49] <Agemaniac> any idea about gedit?
[12:49] <schnuffle> Agemaniac: just looking it seems to be a common problem
[12:49] <BluesKaj> sazawal, so your wifi connection works , but not the cable/ethernet ?
[12:50] <sazawal> BluesKaj, It is not wifi. I have a cable to my room
[12:50] <Agemaniac> schnuffle:  i am, but i havent found something useful... or i dont know if im searching for the correct thing or im just getting useless google results :/
[12:50] <tga> alright, so ufw enable locked down my machine
[12:50] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, So my friends service provider have a router at their office from where they provide connection to a specific area?
[12:51] <tga> I had to jump through all sorts of hoops to get to the console
[12:51] <BluesKaj> sazawal,  the cable connected to your pc is ethernet if it's DSL
[12:51] <schnuffle> Agemaniac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1171156
[12:51] <sazawal> My friends use ethernet connection to connect to internet
[12:51] <tga> libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:505 kmod_lookup_alias_from_builtin_file: could not open builtin file '/lib/modules/2.6.32-042stab076.8/mod
[12:51] <tga> not a pretty thing
[12:51] <martisj> anybody know what this apache error measn: [Thu Jul 11 22:50:39 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost {ourdomain}:443 has no VirtualHosts
[12:51] <sazawal> BluesKaj, Sorry, I am a bit confused now. Ethernet or DSL?
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  no, they use ethernet to connect their PC to the router -- the router is connected with the internet
[12:52] <ikonia> tga: that's not an ubuntu kernel
[12:52] <ikonia> tga: tal to your vps provider
[12:52] <schnuffle> martisj: you nedd to have a NameVirtualHost and of course a virtualhost definition
[12:52] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, They don't have a router at their home. I guess the service provider has fixed a router somewhere and then they provide connection from that router to everyone in the locality
[12:53] <BluesKaj> sazawal, your ethernet is connected to the router , the router is DSL/internet
[12:53] <tga> ikonia: indeed, I figured that out after gtting locked out of my vpn
[12:53] <tga> ikonia: ufw should check for modules before setting up the drop rules
[12:54] <ikonia> tga: no, it shouldnt
[12:54] <sazawal> BluesKaj,  ok. I see
[12:54] <tga> ikonia: of course not, it makes perfect sense to lock down the machine and crash because of missing modules
[12:54] <ikonia> you should use proper supported kernels that work, rather than sloppy crazy 3rd party ones that don't
[12:54] <tga> I'm not complaining that ufw didn't work, just that it didn't fail nicely and locked me out
[12:54] <ikonia> tga: it did what it was meant to
[12:55] <ikonia> you're 3rd party provider messed things up
[12:55] <tga> 100% security
[12:55] <ikonia> you're 3rd party provider should stop being poor
[12:55] <tga> it just happened that my machine's kernel didn't have the modules ufw needs
[12:55] <tga> 3rd party provider or not, it's not acceptable to just crash
[12:55] <ikonia> tga: correct, which is because your 3rd party provider screwd the kernel
[12:55] <ikonia> tga: it didn't just crash
[12:55] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, My friends use Ethernet connection in Ubuntu to connect to the internet and then they get a login screen on the browser where they have to log-in for the internet to work. In my case I have entered login details in the DSL connection (in network settings). I do not get a login screen in the browser.)
[12:56] <schnuffle> ikonia: if his provider is using proxmox it's clear that a openvz VM will have the 2.6.32 which is used by Proxmox
[12:56] <vl4kn0> Hi, I'm developing an application and put all my files into /opt/ (because of cross-platform compatibility) and I'd like to put icons there too. Problem is that when setting icon-path I'm only able to specify one icon filename. But then the icon is the same for ambiance and radiance themes, I'd like to distinguish between dark and light icon theme. How do I do that?
[12:56] <ikonia> schnuffle: this is the 3rd person this week with the same kernel and the same problem, suggesting someone (the provider) is being sloppy
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> vl4kn0  better ask in #ubuntu-app-devel, i guess
[12:56] <vl4kn0> MonkeyDust: thanks
[12:56] <tga> indeed, the ufw developers are being sloppy
[12:57] <ikonia> no
[12:57] <ikonia> they are not
[12:57] <ikonia> they feed info into the kernel modules - it's up to you to make sure the kernel modules are sane
[12:57] <ikonia> if you use ubuntu - that will always happen
[12:57] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, I think my connection is from my room to the ISP with no router. While my friends are connected to the router somewhere in the locality.
[12:57] <ikonia> if you use some rubbish 3rd party kernel - you'll get breakages
[12:57] <tga> of course they are, ufw meets an unexpected kernel and it leaves the machine in an unusable state
[12:57] <ikonia> tga: no, it doesn't
[12:57] <ikonia> tga: it applies the rules - the fact that no kenrel module is loaded is not ufw's issue
[12:58] <ikonia> it's  your kernel maintainer's issue
[12:58] <schnuffle> ikonia: so there you have the answer, I'm running some proxmox hosts and for the newer distirs its better to use KVM then openvz as it leads to problems as stated by tga
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  I have DSL myself, it goes through a router, because you need NAT
[12:58] <tga> ikonia: if it can print lots of FATAL ERRORs in big letters it should be able to undo the rules because they won't work
[12:58] <ikonia> tga: no, as ufw isn't aware of any of that
[12:59] <tga> because the developers are sloppy
[12:59] <ikonia> tga: it applies the rules YOU tell it to, using the modules on YOUR system
[12:59] <ikonia> tga: really - this problem happens because of an unofficial kenrel, and you blame the application,
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  NAT = network address translation, it "translates" your public IP address to a local IP address in your house -- that happens inside the router
[12:59] <schnuffle> tga: what about just flushing the iptable ruels?
[12:59] <tga> schnuffle: I got locked out of my machine after installing and enabling ufw
[12:59] <tga> I got it flushed eventually, but I'm still grumbling about it
[13:00] <tga> and btw, I didn't specify any rules
[13:00] <ikonia> tga: grubmle to your hosting provider
[13:00] <tga> just installed ufw and enabled it
[13:00] <tga> ikonia: no, the hosting provider is doing nothing wrong
[13:00] <schnuffle> tga: my advice it's a server use debian
[13:00] <ikonia> tga: and I suggest as you're using a custom ubuntu spin you take support to them as this channel wo'nt pickup custom support spins
[13:00] <ikonia> tga: yeah - they did, bad kernel with missing modules
[13:01] <tga> schnuffle: on serious stuff I do, this machine I want to keep close to my main system
[13:02] <schnuffle> tga: do you have a /proc/userbeancounters?
[13:02] <tga> schnuffle: yeah, what about it?
[13:02] <ikonia> it's user_beancounters
[13:02] <ikonia> should be an _ there
[13:02] <schnuffle> true
[13:03] <schnuffle> tga: just to know that its openvz. They could adjust their host
[13:03] <tga> oh yeah, it is openvz
[13:03] <tga> I see problems with ufw and openvz from 10.4
[13:04] <tga> I guess nobody bothered to add some checks in ufw
[13:08] <Charlyz> hello
[13:09] <vegombrei> hi how do i do the ubuntu 3d cube thing???
[13:10] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, sorry I lost my connection. You were saying that my DSL connection is via router? What about my friends' Ethernet connection?
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  what was your initial question? what brings you here?
[13:12] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, I was asking about the difference between Ethernet and DSL connections. I saw Ethernet connections at my friend's home but DSL here at my home. What is the difference?
[13:13] <schnuffle> sazawal: DSL uses PPPOE for the connection your friend will use TCP/IP
[13:13] <BluesKaj> sazawal, ethernet connects to the router , the router connects to DSL internet
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  this is the support channel, better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic -- ethernet is inside your house, DSL is outside your house -- in between sits the router
[13:15] <sazawal> schnuffle, yes right I saw the ppp0 in my ifconfig. Also my IP address is 172.... which is a local area network if I am right
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  maybe this illustration halps you understand http://img.tfd.com/cde/_GATEWA2.GIF
[13:15] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, thank you. Let me go through it.
[13:16] <lost_and_unfound> greetings, my default text editor on terminal is nano... when I less a file and type 'v' to access my editor, nano is unable to open the 4GB text file... how do I change my default terminal text editor to vi ?
[13:17] <sazawal> BluesKaj, Then I shouldn't have a router. My cable goes straight to the ISP, Okay
[13:17] <schnuffle> lost_and_unfound: add export EDITOR='vim' to your .bashrc
[13:18] <BluesKaj> sazawal, nope , you need a modem / router to connecto your ISP
[13:18] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, I got now. Thank you
[13:18] <lost_and_unfound> thanks schnuffle
[13:19] <sazawal> BluesKaj, Ahh okay. Then what is the difference between my friends' ethernet connection and my DSL connection if I still need a router?
[13:20] <schnuffle> sazawal: you don'T need it, only if you want to connect more than one PC
[13:21] <sazawal> schnuffle, right right. Now I am getting somewhere.
[13:21] <sazawal> schnuffle, Why my IP address starts with 172... which is a local area connection IP I guess.
[13:22] <schnuffle> sazawal: not the whole 172.0.0. is private but some ISP do it to save IPS, so in the end you have a double NAT setup
[13:23] <tga> it's pretty unlikely he's getting a 172 from his isp
[13:24] <krypto> can some one say what this "303052k reserved" in boot message means
[13:24] <sazawal> schnuffle, NAT can be done without a router/switch?
[13:25] <LeJoker> Hi folks, is there somewhere I can find "getting started" or some such guides to learning Ubuntu server? I've never run a ubuntu server before.
[13:25] <LeJoker> 13.04 I should mention
[13:26] <schnuffle> sazawal: your PC can act as router but that's all offtopic so you should better move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:27] <sazawal> schnuffle, Thank you. Everything you guys told me helped.
[13:28] <kostkon> LeJoker, https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/serverguide/index.html
[13:29] <LeJoker> kostkon: thank you
[13:51] <drupin> i am installing USB modem .. it is asking to install QT3 library....
[13:53] <drupin> where can i download this library .. and then run on UBUNTU 10
[13:54] <drupin> any one here.
[13:54] <blazemore> !details | drupin , what actual error message do you get?
[13:56] <drupin> one min
[13:57] <blazemore> drupin: If you can, put the output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> drupin  the ubuntu version you are running may be !eol, unless it's 10.04 for server
[13:57] <nb-ben> how would I go on about finding a device in the local network?
[13:57] <Daughain> blazemore, Any ideas about my display issue?
[13:58] <nb-ben> I don't know its IP, I would like to know what IP was assigned to it though
[13:58] <drupin> where can i put the snapshot.... MonkeyDust blazemore
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> drupin  what's the outcome of      cat /etc/issue ?
[13:58] <blazemore> Daughain: No, what problems were you having?
[13:59] <blazemore> drupin: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:00] <blazemore> nb-ben: you can use nmap to scan an entire network range. For example, to scan every other host in the range 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.255 you can do "nmap 192.168.0.0/24"
[14:00] <drupin> cat /etc/issue  gives [14:00] <MonkeyDust> drupin  is that for server or for desktop?
[14:00] <Daughain> blazemore, I have a box set up for av, using a 42" tv for a display. My problem is that 12.04 dpoesnt seem to detect the correct display size. my desktop is 1" square larger than the physical display
[14:01] <drupin> its a desktop MonkeyDust
[14:01] <blazemore> Daughain: Does your TV "pretend" to support 1080p and really only have a 720p display? Try setting the resolution to 1920x720
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> drupin  then your ubuntu version is dead, no longer maintained, !eol
[14:01] <drupin> paste no image
[14:01] <blazemore> drupin: 10.04 isn't supported on the desktop any more, since May
[14:01] <blazemore> !eol | drupin
[14:02] <drupin> one min
[14:02] <blazemore> drupin: What image do you want to show me? I suppose you could use imgur.com
[14:02] <Daughain> blazemore, Shouldnt 'pretend'. I bought it knwoing it was only 720.
[14:02] <blazemore> drupin: I'd rather have the actual text though
[14:03] <drupin> blazemore: it shows the exact error..
[14:03] <drupin> one min
[14:04] <Daughain> and 1280x720 is the setting that is causingt the problem
[14:04] <blazemore> drupin: Taking a screenshot and uploading it seems to be a lot more complicated than just copying and pasting the text
[14:04] <drupin> done
[14:04]  * blazemore waits
[14:05] <drupin> blazemore: http://imm.io/1bXPc
[14:05] <blazemore> drupin: What are you actually trying to do?
[14:05] <blazemore> What is PCL_RELIANCEIND?
[14:06] <drupin> installing the 3G USB modem
[14:06] <blazemore> Which USB 3g modem?
[14:06] <blazemore> Does it have a model name/number?
[14:06] <drupin> its Reliance provider from India
[14:06] <blazemore> Does it have a sticker on it with a model number?
[14:07] <omigasun> drupin what is your modem brand?
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> drupin  it will not find it, because 10.04 desktop is dead
[14:07] <blazemore> Yes drupin you should install a much more recent version like 13.04 or 12.04
[14:07] <drupin> it just needs the QT3
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> drupin  no longer exists for 10.04
[14:08] <blazemore> yes drupin but it's going to be very hard to install that now because the software repositores for your version of Ubuntu are no longer available
[14:08] <blazemore> drupin: It was discontinued on the desktop on 2013-05-09
[14:08] <drupin> it must be on ubuntu server some where
[14:08] <C_freeman> Hello
[14:08] <blazemore> drupin: Why do you need to use that old version?
[14:09] <omigasun> drupin try sakis3g, google it, I use it to set my modem to work if it is not recognized by the distro
[14:09] <drupin> let me try..
[14:09] <omigasun> at least it's work for me
[14:10] <Daughain> blazemore, The best I get as an option is 1280x720
[14:12] <nb-ben> blazemore, thank you :)
[14:12] <nb-ben> works
[14:13] <blazemore> nb-ben: np
[14:13] <vegombrei> exit
[14:13] <blazemore> vegombrei: /quit
[14:14] <drupin> also i am not able to come on the lan network... which is on proxy
[14:14] <drupin> its VPN
[14:16] <NEX_ua> hi! I need invite to eve-online, who can help please?
[14:17] <blazemore> !ot | NEX_ua
[14:22] <drupin> i have connected LAN wire but its not getting connected...
[14:23] <drupin> no network detection
[14:28] <Gilligan94> how do I use PPA-purge?
[14:28] <Gilligan94> !PPA-Purge
[14:28] <Gilligan94> !dangerous
[14:29] <genii> Hm.
[14:30] <Gilligan94> why isn't this command working
[14:30] <Gilligan94> sudo ppa-purge ppa:amandeepgrewal/notifyosdconfig
[14:31] <Gilligan94> I'm trying to purge http://ppa.launchpad.net/amandeepgrewal/notifyosdconfig/ubuntu
[14:32] <holstein> Gilligan94: how is it failing?
[14:33] <Gilligan94> holstein: it says it could not find the package list
[14:34] <holstein> ppa:amandeepgrewal/notifyosdconfig is how i would expect to refer to is
[14:34] <holstein> it*
[14:34] <Gilligan94> holstein: hmmm
[14:34] <holstein> Gilligan94: if you would, run the command and show the output in pastebin.. the entire thing
[14:35] <Gilligan94> holstein: I think it might be because some of my ppas are failing lemme just correct that and come back
[14:35] <skroon> when creating a new lxc virtual and I try to use --userdata with a specific cloud-config file, i'm no longer able to login with username/password ubuntu/ubuntu anyone have an idea what might be wrong?
[14:38] <Gilligan94> !pastebin
[14:38] <Gilligan94> new question, how do I fix this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5865124/
[14:38] <rantic> Hey everyone, could anyone tell me the name of the Sound Preferences GUI in Ubuntu 13.04? I'm building an Ubuntu Minimal system and would like to include it.
[14:39] <rantic> Gilligan94: It's telling you in plain english you have duplicate entries :P
[14:40] <Gilligan94> rantic: I know but I dont see any
[14:41] <rantic> Gilligan94: Where are you looking for duplicates?
[14:41] <Gilligan94> rantic: in the source list
[14:41] <Gilligan94> rantic: other sources
[14:41] <rantic> Gilligan94: So you checked the actual text file or you viewed the software sources in a graphical program?
[14:42] <Gilligan94> rantic: the graphical program, where is the actual file located?
[14:42] <rantic> Gilligan94: /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:42] <rantic> Gilligan94: But you also have other entries in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[14:43] <holstein> Gilligan94: you can share that file to a pastebin for the volunteers to look at as well
[14:43] <sussman> We conjure the spirits of the computer with our spells.
[14:43] <ubuntu890> what command line i can use to identify my drivers manufactures on ubuntu 13.4?
[14:43] <Gilligan94> rantic: thanks I'll have a look
[14:44] <Gilligan94> holstein: I will if I have any trouble
[14:44] <rantic> Gilligan94: Is this a relatively new install or have you added more sources yourself?
[14:44] <Gilligan94> rantic: Fresh install, I have added a few
[14:44] <holstein> ubuntu890: might be looking for lspci -vv
[14:46] <ubuntu890> holstein:i need the drives of my drivers...the problem is how to identify my drivers manufactures
[14:46] <theseb> how make ubuntu/unity NOT capture Menu key?
[14:46] <GBS-NET> Guys....i js installed Ubuntu server on my desktop....i can not load GUI...tried "startx", no luck.hlp, pls.
[14:46] <rantic> GBS-NET: Ubuntu Server comes with no GUI.
[14:46] <rantic> GBS-NET: Would you like one/
[14:47] <holstein> ubuntu890: the "drives of your drivers"?
[14:47] <rantic> GBS-NET: Ubuntu Server is meant to run on ... servers. They don't typically have a graphical interface. If you want to add one, you'll have to do it yourself.
[14:47] <GBS-NET> rantic,,,yes pls.....
[14:47] <ubuntu890> i mean i need to install drives on ubuntu
[14:47] <ubuntu890> sorry for my bad english
[14:47] <Chocobo> I got myself into a terrible mess.  I tried installing a package manually with "dpkg -i" amd it had a bunch of unmet dependencies.  Now I want to go back to the version on the repository.   How can I remove the new version and use the standard version?   Here are the changes I made:  http://pastie.org/pastes/8131364/text
[14:47] <rantic> GBS-NET: What do you feel comfortable using? KDE? Unity? XFCE? etc? I'd recommend something light.
[14:48] <adsc> why do you need a GUI on a server?
[14:48] <ikonia> adsc: people can use a gui if they want
[14:48] <rantic> I'm assuming he just wants to experiment and isn't ready to traverse the command line..
[14:48] <ikonia> CookieM: what package did you install ?
[14:48] <adsc> then he shouldn't use a server distro
[14:48] <ikonia> adsc: why ?
[14:48] <Gilligan94> alright, here's my source list
[14:48] <Gilligan94> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5865145/
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> rantic  if you want to use server, better get familiar with the command line
[14:49] <A4trent3> My screen went black after upgrading to 12.10
[14:49] <rantic> adsc: For all we know maybe he just wants to setup a half life server or something
[14:49] <rantic> MonkeyDust:: I'm aware, I'm just helping GBS-NET
[14:49] <doxinho> do you guys have any recommended popular/worthy books on learning about ubuntu/linux ?
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> rantic  wrong person, sorry
[14:49] <adsc> a lot of server software doesn't have any GUI controls and thus he will need to learn the commandline anyway
[14:49] <GBS-NET> rantic....hw do i do that?...i think i l go with KDE
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> GBS-NET   if you want to use server, better get familiar with the command line
[14:49] <rantic> doxinho: http://www.amazon.ca/dp/1593273894
[14:50] <doxinho> ty
[14:50] <rantic> doxinho: This is the website that spawned that book, also great to follow with: http://linuxcommand.org
[14:50] <GBS-NET> MonkeyDust....um new user of Ubuntu.um trying.
[14:51] <adsc> why the server distro, then? GBS-Net?
[14:51] <rantic> GBS-NET: On your server do you have an internet connection? If you don't know how to check can you run this: ping -c 3 google.ca
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> GBS-NET  i guess you better try a live cd, then
[14:52] <A4trent3> Help...
[14:52] <holstein> GBS-NET: if you are a beginner.. i suggest downloading an iso for a desktop operating system, if you want to use a desktop operating system.. try xubuntu, or kubuntu if you want to try KDE
[14:53] <Gilligan94> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5865145/
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> Gilligan94  there's a elementary OS beta source
[14:54] <A4trent3> My screen is black. I was restarting to get 12.10. I just finished upgrading to it.
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> Gilligan94  what's the output of     cat /etc/issue ?
[14:54] <Gilligan94> MonkeyDust: well yes, that makes sence since I'm running elementary os
[14:55] <Gilligan94> MonkeyDust: elementary OS Luna \n \l
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> Gilligan94  type /join #elementary
[14:56] <Gilligan94> MonkeyDust: I'm in there right now, they arn't very active though
[14:57] <A4trent3> Anyone gonna help. I'm sorta pissed.
[14:57] <GBS-NET> oh...tanx guys....l try this "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"...n  i will see how it goes.
[14:57] <ikonia> A4trent3: come back when you are not frustrated
[14:57] <ikonia> as your attitude and language are not helpful or welcome
[14:58] <Gilligan94> A4trent3: try a fresh install
[14:58] <blazemore> Yeah A4trent3 I've never had much luck with upgrades
[14:58] <rantic> GBS-NET: You've installed the wrong type of Linux version. You installed something designed to run on servers instead of your desktop computer.
[14:58] <Gilligan94> A4trent3: when does your screen go black?
[14:59] <rantic> GBS-NET: Download Ubuntu from here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[14:59] <kolinab> Hi all! Is this an appropriate place to ask a question about external HD permissions? I'm stumped on a little issue but I'm sure the solution should be pretty simple.
[14:59] <ikonia> kolinab: is this on ubuntu ?
[14:59] <kolinab> ikonia - yes
[14:59] <A4trent3> Right after the restart for the install completion
[14:59] <ikonia> kolinab: then ask away
[15:00] <teeceepee> do anyone know of any lighteight monitoring system like nagios but not nagios
[15:00] <ikonia> teeceepee: why not nagios ?
[15:00] <teeceepee> something I can sudo-apt get install <it> and thats it
[15:00] <teeceepee> cos looking on how to set it up has put me off
[15:00] <teeceepee> and the website is daunting
[15:00] <ikonia> teeceepee: how many machines do you want to monitor ?
[15:00] <teeceepee> just one
[15:00] <teeceepee> a bunch of proccesses
[15:00] <Duologic> teeceepee: http://alternativeto.net/software/nagios/
[15:00] <ikonia> teeceepee: just use conky then
[15:00] <teeceepee> supervisord, uwsgi and nginx really
[15:01] <teeceepee> conky
[15:01] <GBS-NET> rantic---oh,,,,know we are getting somewhere.
[15:01] <rantic> GBS-NET: Congratulations on successfully installing Ubuntu Server though, you're going to find setting up the desktop version much much easier.
[15:02] <kolinab> OK. It's a ex3 formatted disk. I'm the owner on my system (both systems 12.04) and it works great. I just gave my wife my old system, where I added her as a new user with an administrative account. When I plug the disk into her system it says I don't have privileges to read it. Of course I can chown -R username:username /media/mydisk but I don't want to switch the owner back and forth every time I plug the disk into my system or hers.
[15:02] <adsc> i have an aunt that thinks a computer consists of a monitor, a keyboard, and a "server"
[15:02] <teeceepee> ikonia does it alert me when my processes die/
[15:02] <teeceepee> ?
[15:03] <ikonia> kolinab: who is the owner:group on the disks file ysstem
[15:03] <ikonia> teeceepee: no.
[15:03] <kolinab> lemme check
[15:03] <GBS-NET> rantic:yeah......i wd'nt have done it without you guys
[15:03] <adsc> kolinab: just chgrp and give both users the same group
[15:03] <ikonia> adsc: they are different machines so the GID/groups maybe different
[15:03] <ikonia> hence why I'm asking what's there now
[15:04] <adsc> chances are good they aren't different
[15:04] <kolinab> on my system: owner:kolin, group: kolin
[15:04] <ikonia> adsc: he's already said they are
[15:04] <ikonia> adsc: they have users on one system not on the other
[15:04] <adsc> not the gids if he creates a new group
[15:04] <A4trent3> I'm doing a reinstall.
[15:04] <adsc> if they are standard desktop systems, a new group will have the same gid on both machines
[15:04] <ikonia> kolinab: ok, so does the user and group kolin exist on both systems ?
[15:05] <ikonia> adsc: he's already said they are not, they have different users, therefore different groups will be created as a group is created for each user by default
[15:05] <kolinab> no, the user kolin and group kolin exist only on my main system. But I'm happy to add another group to her system and make her a member, if that's the solution
[15:05] <adsc> you don't get what I mean
[15:05] <adsc> he should create a new group anyway
[15:05] <ikonia> adsc: yes, I know this
[15:06] <adsc> then I don't understand your confusion
[15:06] <ikonia> kolinab: so what I'd suggest you do is check the group "users" exists on both systems - it should as this is a standard group
[15:06] <anshulk> I use internet by connecting by mobile through bluetooth, but whenever I disconnect, my ubuntu drops to CLI and I have no option except to restart using hardware button
[15:06] <kolinab> ok, checking.
[15:06] <ikonia> kolinab: do you know how to check ?
[15:06] <anshulk> "kernel panic occurred " or such is the message
[15:07] <kolinab> no, I was googling it :)
[15:07] <ikonia> kolinab: ok, so "grep users /ec/group"
[15:07] <adsc> anshulk: sounds like a driver issue
[15:07] <anshulk> i also remember "drm_kms_helper" or something like that
[15:07] <anshulk> adsc, solution ?
[15:08] <anshulk> oops
[15:08] <adsc> find out which driver it is, then send the author a mail?
[15:08] <kolinab> grep users /ec/group - no such file of dir
[15:08] <ikonia> kolinab: /etc/group
[15:08] <auronandace> kolinab: he meant /etc/group
[15:08] <ikonia> sorry, typo
[15:09] <anshulk> older versions of ubuntu work just fine, adsc
[15:09] <kolinab> ikonia: the users group exists on both systems
[15:09] <ikonia> kolinab: does the gid match ?
[15:09] <ikonia> eg: users:x:$number
[15:09] <ikonia> the $number part
[15:09] <kolinab> output on both systems reads identically: users:x:100:
[15:10] <ikonia> kolinab: great, so on both systems if you add your user and your wifes user to the group "users" and change the group ownership to that group "users"
[15:10] <ikonia> kolinab: you can then change the permissions to something like 775 to give group full control, and both systems your users will work fine
[15:10] <adsc> anshulk: maybe you can find something if you google for "ubuntu bluetooth kernel panic"
[15:11] <kolinab> ikonia: thanks, this sounds like the ticket. I'll try this now. Thanks much, I'll report back in a few minutes!
[15:16] <anshulk> adsc, looks like its this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1165433
[15:20] <danlee> hi all
[15:20] <danlee> I am using 12.04 with latest updates
[15:21] <danlee> i am having a problem that all the items at the top menu bar sometimes disappear
[15:21] <danlee> is it because of multiple-screen with ATI prop driver?
[15:22] <holstein> danlee: one could remove that driver, or test with a live CD to see if that driver is the issue
[15:22] <danlee> since I am using HD7770, the open source driver doesn't work well
[15:23] <adsc> anshulk: there seems to be a message referenced in the last post of this bug report with a patch
[15:23] <danlee> adsc: would you send me the link of this bugs?
[15:24] <danlee> adsc: sorry, I got wrong idea
[15:24] <MoPac> Hello; I am hoping to get some help with user permissions and password caching for a startup program (TrueCrypt). I'm tired of having to enter a root permissions password every time my script tells TrueCrypt to mount something, and I'd also like to be able to cache a TrueCrypt password in one of my keyrings just like I do with encfs volume passwords
[15:24] <MoPac> any help appreciated
[15:24] <anshulk> adsc, number please
[15:25] <adsc> 31
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> MoPac  mount happens outside /home, hence you need the password
[15:26] <adsc> it's 5 days old
[15:26] <blazemore> MoPac: Are you trying to avoid entering your password for sudo, or the encryption password for Truecrypt?
[15:26] <MoPac> MonkeyDust: hmm -- but the mounted folder is actually within ~home
[15:26] <MoPac> blazemore: both, actually
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> MoPac  yes, but /dev is outside /home
[15:26] <anshulk> adsc, #31 right... any idea how to get the patch... i'm not on the mailing list mentioned
[15:26] <kolinab> ikonia: are you still there? sorry. So the group id for 'users' matches on both systems. The USB disk shows it belongs now to kolin:users. The users on both systems are members of the 'users' group, but my wife's system still can't read the disk. I'm missing something.
[15:27] <adsc> neither am I, but some mailing lists have web archives
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> MoPac  try sudo visudo
[15:27] <ikonia> kolinab: what do you mean, can't read it ?
[15:27] <MoPac> MonkeyDust: Yes, I've looked at that, but unfortunately was too noobish to know what I really want to ask it to do...do I need a TC user that has root permissions, a new user group....etc
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> MoPac  ok, use this line    your_username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/mount
[15:28] <kolinab> ikonia: I get a popup message when I plug it in on "the folder contents could not be displayed, you do not have permissions to view the contents of 'PASS'
[15:28] <kolinab> ikonia: 'PASS' is the drive name . . .
[15:28] <ikonia> kolinab: what is "PASS" ?
[15:29] <kolinab> ikonia: I labelled it PASS some time ago
[15:29] <ikonia> kolinab: ok, so that's the disk name
[15:29] <ikonia> kolinab: ok, is the disk mounted ?
[15:29] <kolinab> yes
[15:29] <MoPac> MonkeyDust: is that a line to put into a standard shell window or specifically to add with visudo?
[15:29] <kolinab> ikonia: yes, it's mounted on her system now
[15:30] <ikonia> kolinab: ok, can she open a directory on it ?
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> MoPac  sudo visudo    then add that line
[15:30] <kolinab> ikonia: I can see the folder 'PASS ' under /media/PASS, but I cannot open the folder. I have both systems here in front of me now :)
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> MoPac  know what you are doing, if you experiment with sudo
[15:30] <ikonia> kolinab: ok, lets do this in a terminal
[15:31] <kolinab> ikonia: I'm with you
[15:31] <ikonia> kolinab: can you please do cd /media and do "ls -la" and put the output in a pastebin please.
[15:31] <kolinab> ikonia: one moment
[15:31] <ikonia> kolinab: no rush
[15:31] <adsc> anshulk: maybe this is it: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.bluez.kernel/36976 ?
[15:32] <MoPac> MonkeyDust: I assume that adding that line means that any program run by [MyUsername] can execute mounts without the typing of a new password?
[15:32] <MoPac> (by which I meant the re-typing of my user password)
[15:33] <kolinab> ikonia: this is really embarrassing - I have no idea how to use pastebin
[15:33] <MoPac> MonkeyDust: I think if that's the case, that would work fine for me.  I suppose my assumption going in was that the solution was to make TrueCrypt some kind of sudoer as a separate user
[15:34] <blazemore> kolinab: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:34] <ikonia> kolinab: no problem, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com paste what you want in there and then give us the url
[15:34] <ikonia> kolinab: nothing wrong with asking, better to ask and do it right than mess it up
[15:35] <kolinab> ikonia: ok I got it now
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> MoPac  try it, it should work
[15:35] <anshulk> how can i update just my linux kernel
[15:35] <ikonia> anshulk: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[15:35] <MoPac> MonkeyDust: cool; thanks very much.
[15:35] <anshulk> 13.04  ikonia
[15:36] <kolinab> ikonia: pastebin.ubuntu.com/5865276/
[15:36] <ikonia> anshulk: so when new kernel version are available for 13.04 you'll see them offered to you in update manager
[15:36] <ikonia> kolinab: ok, there is the issue
[15:36] <ikonia> kolinab: the owner is a non-existant user (UID 1000)
[15:36] <Rob25> How can you restart Unity 2D if it crashes?
[15:36] <anshulk> ikonia, my net is slow, so i don't want to update everything
[15:36] <ikonia> anshulk: so don't
[15:37] <ikonia> kolinab: so first thing, lets get the users to mirror each other.
[15:37] <MoPac> MonkeyDust: blazemore: regarding the second part (the volume password), do programs need to build in support for passwords in them being in a keyring, or can I set parameters for any arbitrary dialog window and put a password in a keyring that should be written into the window?
[15:37] <anshulk> ikonia, so uncheck others ?
[15:37] <kolinab> ikonia: glad you see it . . . my user kolin is UID 1000 on my main system I thought. and weronika is user 1001 on her system. but I'm following you here.
[15:37] <ikonia> kolinab: on the other system please type "id" in a terminal and find out which user (yours I assume) ha a UID of 1000
[15:37] <ikonia> ahh you've answered it already
[15:37] <ikonia> kolinab: lets sync it up
[15:37] <kolinab> ikonia: yes, kolin is 1000
[15:37] <ikonia> kolinab: create your user on her system with a UID of 1000
[15:37] <ikonia> so they are the same on both
[15:38] <ikonia> or change the ownership to "root:users" so that it's a user they both share
[15:38] <kolinab> ikonia: and weronika is 1001. Oh I see, so I need to change her user to 1000 as well
[15:38] <ikonia> (both systems share)
[15:38] <ikonia> kolinab: no no no
[15:38] <ikonia> kolinab: your user should be 1000 on both systems, her user should be 1001 on both systems
[15:38] <ikonia> kolinab: just do this
[15:39] <kolinab> ikonia: ok, I think I see what you're saying
[15:39] <ikonia> kolinab: "sudo chown -R root:users /media/PASS" then "sudo chmod -R 775 /media/PASS"
[15:39] <ikonia> kolinab: lets see if that works
[15:39] <kolinab> ikonia: ok, standby
[15:41] <blazemore> How can I use sed (or similar) to replace newlines with html linebreak delimters (<br />) while using "tail -f" on a file?
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> blazemore  i'm sure the people in #bash know
[15:44] <kolinab> ikonia: OK, great - now I can read the disk on both systems. But why 775 and not 755?
[15:44] <ikonia> kolinabthe group needs write permissions, as the group is the thing common to bot you and your wife's users
[15:45] <phix> Is there a better (or restricted / nonfree) MP3 codec to use with Rhythmbox?  it doesn't play all of the time, it is annoying
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> phix  all my music is in .ogg format
[15:46] <Pumpkin-_> blazemore: sed 's/.$/\<br \/\>/' (if you don't care about still having new lines, which I suspect you don't).
[15:47] <kolinab> ikonia: OK. So I need to study permissions more deeply. But if I try to drag and drop files or folders onto the disk, it says I do not have file permissions to create a file there.
[15:47] <phix> MonkeyDust: That's nice, doesn't solve my issue though
[15:47] <phix> MonkeyDust: unless you have all of the music I already own and want to DCC it all to me
[15:47] <ikonia> kolinab: where exactly are you trying to put the file, /media/PASS/$here ?
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> phix  what i'm saying is, convert mp3 to ogg
[15:48] <kolinab> ikonia: exactly, just into the root directory of the disk, for example.
[15:48] <kolinab> ikonia: or inside any folder on the disk
[15:48] <ikonia> kolinab: can I have a look at ls -la /media/PASS in a pastebin again please (fresh ls -la)
[15:48] <phix> MonkeyDust: Wouldn't it be easier and quicker to install a better codec?
[15:48] <phix> MonkeyDust: rather than convert all of my music to ogg?
[15:48] <phix> I have a large collection
[15:49] <phix> that I have purchased over 15 year
[15:49] <phix> s
[15:49] <kolinab> ikonia: pastebin.ubuntu.com/5865310/
[15:50] <drasko_> hi, where can I fetch a source package from another distro version? I.e. I am using precise, but libmad is not backported - I want to fetch new version with patches?
[15:50] <ikonia> kolinab: ahhh your primary group is now users
[15:50] <ikonia> ughhh more pain
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> phix  this old page gives some tips, maybe it's useful   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[15:51] <ikonia> kolinab: I suggest making your primary group users for both your user and your wifes.
[15:51] <ikonia> kolinab: or, setuid on /media/pass
[15:51] <ikonia> kolinab: actually lets do that
[15:51] <ikonia> kolinab: setgid sorry
[15:51] <kolinab> ikonia: I'm really sorry . . . seven years of ubuntu and I never figured this all out. I'll follow whichever suggestion :)
[15:52] <ikonia> kolinab: hang on
[15:52] <Reflow> how to run a c program on the command line
[15:52] <ikonia> Reflow: ./program
[15:52] <blazemore> Reflow: You need to compile it first if it's a source file
[15:52] <phix> MonkeyDust: I have them installed, I am playing over SMB
[15:52] <phix> now what/
[15:52] <drasko_> hi, where can I fetch a source package from another distro version? I.e. I am using precise, but libmad is not backported - I want to fetch new version with patches?
[15:52] <Reflow> blazemore: how to compile it
[15:52] <phix> how can I install the original XMMS onto Ubuntu? I have never had an issue with that program
[15:52] <blazemore> Reflow: Use gcc
[15:52] <ikonia> Reflow: what's a more complex question
[15:53] <ikonia> Reflow: what do you want to build
[15:53] <blazemore> Reflow: gcc source_file.c; ./a.out
[15:53] <phix> blazemore: does XMMS still exist?
[15:53] <ikonia> kolinab: sudo chmod -R 2775 /media/PASS
[15:53] <Reflow> blazemore, ikonia thanks
[15:54] <auronandace> phix: just install gstreamer-plugins-bad
[15:54] <kolinab> ikonia: done
[15:54] <bazhang> !xmms | phix
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> phix  xmms2 is in the 13.04 repos
[15:54] <ikonia> kolinab: lets try again
[15:54] <bazhang> xmms2 is something quite different
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> phix  disregard my comment
[15:54] <bazhang> use audacious
[15:55] <Erik_dc> I run NetJack audio over the network (master/slave). Used to work perfect. But now the network setup has changed. I have installed a 2nd network card to get internet directly to my computer. The other network is set 'shared to other computers' so they also have internet etc... But for some reason Netjack can not connect anymore. Can someone please help?
[15:56] <kolinab> ikonia: pastebin.ununtu.com/5865329 Still can't create files on the disk . . .
[15:56] <anshulk> need help in applying a patch : http://marc.info/?l=linux-bluetooth&m=137310023828821&w=2
[15:56] <ikonia> kolinab: ok, let me ponder this
[15:56] <Reflow> blazemore: bro and how do i change the name of the compiled file
[15:57] <ikonia> anshulk: thats not something you want to do, I promise
[15:57] <auronandace> kolinab: are you remounting after changing permissions?
[15:57] <anshulk> ikonia, why so ?
[15:57] <kolinab> ikonia: yes, I unplugged and replugged the disk.
[15:57] <cusion> Hi all, I use usermod -G -a command to add A into groupB, while A is originally belongs to groupA, how would I kick A out of groupB without delete user A ?
[15:57] <ikonia> kolinab: just give me a minute.
[15:58] <kolinab> ikonia: if it gives a clue, my wife's user was the second user created on that system. I'm handing the system down to her so made her a new admin account and deleted my old one
[15:58] <blazemore> Reflow: "man gcc"
[15:58] <ikonia> kolinab: shouldn't matter
[15:58] <quetzakubica1> Hello guys, I have a problem with package on venv, I can't update it.
[15:58] <ikonia> quetzakubica1: venc ?
[15:58] <ikonia> venv ?
[15:58] <kolinab> ikonia: that's what I thought
[16:00] <ikonia> kolinab: ok, so sudo chmod -R 775 /media/PASS - then sudo chmod -R g-s /media/PASS - then sudo chmod g+s /media/PASS
[16:00] <cusion> what is the reverse operation of command usermod -a -G ?
[16:01] <quetzakubica1> virtualenv
[16:01] <kolinab> ikonia: ok, working on it
[16:01] <quetzakubica1> http://bpaste.net/show/113617/
[16:01] <quetzakubica1> this is my log
[16:01] <ikonia> quetzakubica1: what type of virtual env
[16:01] <quetzakubica1> what do you mean what type?
[16:01] <ikonia> quetzakubica1: that is not an ubuntu package "pip" is not ubuntu packages
[16:02] <quetzakubica1> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/8Lq3daF0
[16:03] <ikonia> quetzakubica1: this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:03] <kolinab> ikonia: done - remounted, and no change
[16:03] <ikonia> kolinab: can I see "ls -la /media/PASS" again please.
[16:03] <kolinab> ikonia: wait
[16:04] <kolinab> ikonia: missed a step, redoing, sorry
[16:04] <ikonia> kolinab: no problem
[16:04] <foobArrrr> I have a problem with one of my displays sometimes not beeing recognized ("HDMI3 disconnected" in xrandr), and I have no idea why or even where to start looking for the problem. It doesn't matter which HDMI port I connect it to. Disconnecting and reconnecting sometimes helps, most times it doesn't. Powering down the computer and restarting sometimes helps, most times it doesn't. And the next day everything works fine again.
[16:04] <foobArrrr> I replaced the HDMI cable, no success. My other displays work fine with this computer, my other computers work fine with this display. (hardware: intel hd 3000 graphics on a Gigabyte H67N-USB3-B3 motherboard, HP w2207h display)
[16:05] <PashaPasta> foobArrrr: tried other displays with this machine?
[16:08] <kolinab> ikonia: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5865360/
[16:09] <ikonia> kolinab: so if you do "touch /media/PASS/test" what happens ?
[16:09] <kolinab> ikonia: cannot touch:permission denied
[16:09] <ikonia> kolinab: can you type "id" and show me what you see
[16:10] <kolinab> ikonia: I'm working from my MY system now. uid=1000(kolin) gid=1000(kolin) groups=1000(kolin),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),109(lpadmin),124(sambashare)
[16:10] <ikonia> kolinab: your not in the users group
[16:10] <foobArrrr> PashaPasta: " My other displays work fine with this computer" ;)
[16:11] <kolinab> ikonia: you're right. but I just did it . . .
[16:11] <ikonia> kolinab: you need to star a fresh terminal
[16:11] <ikonia> kolinab: it doens't apply the permissions to existing shells
[16:11] <kolinab> ikonia: ok, but in a fresh terminal it still shows I'm not in users
[16:12] <ikonia> kolinab: ok, that's what you need to fix
[16:12] <kolinab> ikonia: 'usermod -a -G users kolin' ? is that right
[16:12] <ikonia> kolinab: should do
[16:13] <kolinab> ikonia: doesn't seem to work. doing id in a new terminal after that and I'm still not a member of the group
[16:14] <ikonia> kolinab: Hmmm, that's odd
[16:14] <ikonia> kolinab: that's the issue though
[16:14] <kolinab> ikonia: well I can work on that, at least knowing it's the issue. I really appreciate your patience!
[16:15] <kolinab> ikonia: maybe the group doesn't exist yet and I need to create it before adding a user to it?
[16:15] <ikonia> kolinab: you said you'd checked it and it was identical on both systems
[16:15] <ikonia> I asked you to do grep users /etc/group
[16:16] <kolinab> ikonia: I did, but I forget how I did that now
[16:17] <ikonia> grep users /etc/group is the command
[16:17] <Darael> What's the recommended way of setting up a mythbuntu backend master on an existing headless server without installing X?
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> !mythbuntu | Darael
[16:18] <compdoc> Darael, how about placnig it in a VM?
[16:18] <ikonia> Darael: some of hte packages depend on X
[16:18] <ikonia> Darael: you don't need X running, but you need the libraries
[16:18] <Darael> ikonia: Ah.  Is that a Myth thing, or a myth*buntu* thing?
[16:18] <kolinab> ikonia: ok great, my wife is a member of users, and I can create files with her system now. So I just need to add myself to the users group on my system and it should work
[16:19] <llutz> Darael: myth, its not mythbuntu specific
[16:19] <ikonia> Darael: corrct
[16:19] <ikonia> kolinab: ban, you go tit
[16:19] <ikonia> got it
[16:19] <ikonia> bang even
[16:20] <NoiseEee> hey, im wondering if someone might be able to help me solve some openssl issues on 12.04 vs 10.04: https://gist.github.com/NoiseEee/b99e4994329ddab53fa9
[16:21] <cusion> Could anyone please tell me how would I reverse the effect of "usermod -a -G A B"? Thanks a lot
[16:21] <canci> I got a problem with my wireless. In the network manager it show up as disabled and I can't enable it
[16:21] <canci> there is a wlan0 and if I use it without network manager it works fine
[16:21] <bobz_zg> hi, anyone can help with permissions on ubuntu server. i have user 'myuser' which is in group 'www-data', but I don't have permissions to edit files?
[16:22] <llutz> cusion: delgroup B A
[16:22] <nzee> 'supervisorctl reread' giving me this error "Error: .ini file does not include supervisorctl section"
[16:22] <canci> rfkill list wifi shows wlan0 as soft blocked. when I unblock it it gets unblocked successfully but is blocked almost immediately again
[16:22] <kolinab> ikonia: grep /users/etc/group on her system shows users:x:100:weronika    and on my system it shows users:x:100:kolin
[16:22] <ikonia> kolinab: ok, so that looks better
[16:23] <kolinab> ikonia: bizarrely, the command sudo usermod -a -G users kolin doesn't seem to add me to the users group on my system. 'id' still shows I'm not in the group
[16:23] <ikonia> kolinab: very very odd
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> bobz_zg: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might help you aswell
[16:24] <cusion> llutz: will this command delete the user or just remove it out of the group?
[16:24] <llutz> cusion: man delgroup (it removes user B from group A)
[16:24] <kolinab> ikonia: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5865402/  anyway, at least I know the issue now, I can work on it.
[16:24] <ikonia> kolinab: great stuff
[16:24] <bobz_zg> @lotus will try, thanks
[16:25] <ikonia> kolinab: launch a new shell
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> bobz_zg: maybe this can help aswell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[16:25] <ikonia> kolinab: you've not changed shell after usermod
[16:25] <llutz> kolinab: did you logoute/login after change?
[16:25] <ikonia> bobz_zg: show me ls -la on the file you want to edit
[16:25] <kolinab> ikonia: new shell, check - I have not logged in and out though.
[16:26] <ikonia> kolinab: try it
[16:26] <kolinab> ikonia: brb
[16:26] <cusion> llutz: yeah, i saw it, since it is quite important not to delete the user, i have to make sure that it works as i think it does
[16:26] <qinglan> is anyone here?
[16:26] <ikonia> qinglan: over 1500 people
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> qinglan: ask your issue mate
[16:27] <qinglan>  i want improve my english
[16:27] <pagios> hello. i am trying to capture sound from my em28xx usb capture card, when i use arecord the file gets generated weith no sound content
[16:27] <ikonia> qinglan: try the ##english channel
[16:27] <pagios> any idea how to fix?
[16:27] <qinglan> ok
[16:27] <qinglan> thanks
[16:28] <tropicalmug> Has anyone hosted their own IRC server on ubuntu before? I'm running into some weird issues with hybserv2 bots
[16:28] <ikonia> tropicalmug: yes, I have.
[16:29] <Darael> Pursuant to my earlier question (adding mythbuntu master backend role to an existing headless server), is there anything in particular that I need to do to ensure I only get the necessary X libs, rather than the full X server?
[16:29] <kolinab_> ikonia: after login, id shows I'm a member of the users group and I can access the disk as expected. Really big thanks for all your help. I owe you a sandwich.
[16:29] <ikonia> kolinab_: welcome
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | ikonia
[16:31] <private_meta> hey there... short question, is it possible to install packages on different hard drives?
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> private_meta: with wat purpose exactly?
[16:31] <Darael> private_meta: Not per se.  That sounds like there's a question behind the question - what's the actual objective?
[16:32] <backbox> hllep
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> !ask | backbox
[16:32] <kolinab_> ikonia: have a good evening. thanks again from Warsaw, Poland :)
[16:32] <private_meta> My system drive has 4GB so I need to install other programs on a different drive. I want to pick and choose tho which program to install on what drive, so just combining both won't work properly for me, what can I do?
[16:33] <Darael> private_meta: Are we talking physically different drives here, or just multiple partitions?
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> private_meta: 4gig is a bit low for ubuntu, what version are you on?
[16:33] <private_meta> physically different drives
[16:33] <private_meta> lotuspsychje: well, it's low for pretty much any operating system
[16:34] <private_meta> I'm not on any version yet
[16:34] <private_meta> I wanted to increase the drive space, but I can't find any 1" ssd that fits into that netbook
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> private_meta: maybe try lubuntu and make it lightweight as possible
[16:35] <Darael> private_meta: In that case, I'd suggest looking into putting /home on a different drive - that will leave user data on the larger one, and 4G should be enough for a while if things like swap are on the secondary.
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> private_meta: try the ##hardware channel for your ssd issue
[16:35] <Darael> The problem there being that the secondary would need to be connected to use the system at all.
[16:35] <private_meta> lotuspsychje: Oh they won't be able to help me
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> private_meta: what netbook you want to install ubuntu on?
[16:36] <private_meta> lotuspsychje: an asus eeepc, but the problem is that the 1" drive they used there has a connector on a side no other 1" ssd has it on, and it's fixated
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> private_meta: i would go for leightweights like lubuntu or xubuntu, and tweak system as low possible
[16:39] <private_meta> this netbook was such a bad decision in the long run
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> private_meta: maybe this can help you aswell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC
[16:42] <private_meta> I'm more tending to the "oh screw this eeepc" option
[16:44] <usuario> alfredo
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> usuario: what can we help you with?
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> private_meta: maybe there's a trick to install ubuntu full on usb stick on your eeepc instead of internal hd
[16:47] <bazhang> lotuspsychje, that indeed works, but is dreadfully slow
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> bazhang: will that bottleneck his system?
[16:48] <bazhang> lotuspsychje, not that much though, as the eeepc 4g is already really sluggish
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> bazhang: what else could we suggest him for smooth ubuntu
[16:48] <bazhang> something like lubuntu would be a good fit, as I believe you suggested earlier lotuspsychje
[16:49] <tropicalmug> Can anyone help me debug my hybserv2 setup?  NickServ and the like only seem to be available when I login to the server from itself.
[16:49] <kuip88> Hey, i installed a new videocard and now i cant get past POST (cant see BIOS, no beeps nothing).. can anyone assist?
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> bazhang: ok great :p
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> kuip88: did you install ubuntu?
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> tropicalmug: maybe this can help?: http://eosrei.net/articles/2013/03/irc-server-ircd-hybrid-and-hybserv-ubuntu-1204lts
[16:50] <kuip88> lotuspsychje yeah
[16:51] <_44trent3> Do you think I had a good idea by getting Java Runtime envrionment? Not OpenJdk. The page I was on http://www.minecraft.net said to use Java Runtime Envrionment.
[16:51] <kuip88> lotuspsychje, like 2 months ago. Now i got a new videocard and the PC wont boot
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> !java | _44trent3
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> kuip88: sounds like a hardware issue mate, try ##hardware channel
[16:51] <starkiller> hello
[16:51] <Gilligan94> !pastebin
[16:52] <tropicalmug> lotuspsychje: Poking through the comments it looks like it might be a DNS issue.
[16:52] <tropicalmug> lotuspsychje: Thanks...maybe. :P
[16:52] <drasko_> how to prevent package being removed ?
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> tropicalmug: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might have ircd experience?
[16:53] <starkiller> what does a swap memory do :P
[16:53] <tropicalmug> I'll try that out.  Thanks again!
[16:53] <drasko_> for example, removin libmad0 I have a message
[16:53] <drasko_> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[16:53] <drasko_>   libmad0 madplay
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> !swap | starkiller
[16:53] <drasko_> and I want to keep madplay, and just remove libmad0
[16:54] <ripthejacker> any play hi end windows games on ubuntu?
[16:54] <starkiller> thanks ubottu:P
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> !anyone | ripthejacker
[16:54] <bazhang> !appdb | ripthejacker
[16:54] <ripthejacker> not actually hi end , I mean games like Skyrim and FIFA
[16:54] <bazhang> check the appdb ripthejacker
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> ripthejacker: and playonlinux and steam
[16:54] <bazhang> then /join #winehq ripthejacker
[16:55] <drasko_> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[16:55] <drasko_> how to prevent package being removed ?
[16:55] <ripthejacker> lotuspsychje: playonlinux is just a wrapper for wine right?
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | ripthejacker
[16:56] <delac> in firefox, where does flashplugin 11.2 store the videos (or with what name)? lsof doesn't seem to come up with anything...
[16:57] <ripthejacker> lotuspsychje: I have it installed
[16:57] <drasko_> The following packages will be REMOVED ?
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> !patience | drasko_
[16:58] <ripthejacker> lotuspsychje: But wine  doesn't support 3d accel and stuff
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> ripthejacker: not sure about that but follow the advice bazhang gave you #winehq
[16:59] <ripthejacker> ok thankss lotuspsychje, bazhang
[17:02] <psycho> anyone have some advice about ieee1394 on a laptop?  I have an external that works fine with USB but when I connect it via 1394 it doesn't even detect.
[17:02] <utfans05> OMG... 13.04 server does not like wireless...
[17:07] <tck9> is there a way to run this properly with cron? 0 2 * * * sleep $(( $RANDOM % 10 )) && sa-update > /dev/null
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> psycho: you might need the proper drivers for your device?
[17:07] <tck9> i get a message saying /bin/sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `)'
[17:07] <Erik_dc> I run NetJack audio over the network (master/slave). Used to work perfect. But now the network setup has changed. I have installed a 2nd network card to get internet directly to my computer. The other network is set 'shared to other computers' so they also have internet etc... But for some reason Netjack can not connect anymore. Can someone please help?
[17:08] <_44trent3> How do I save a bash script in Text Editor?
[17:09] <psycho> msg lotuspsychje  that's rather obvious.  the problem is i can't find the drivers.
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> psycho: brand doesnt have a website with linux drivers?
[17:10] <psycho> msg brand is alienware.  the push microsoft on everyone they can.
[17:10] <neekz0r> check dell, since they own alienware
[17:11] <neekz0r> you may be able to find a driver behind the underlying chipset
[17:11] <psycho> msg lotuspsychje brand is alienware and they try to force windows on everyone.  Think I may have found the drivers in the ubuntu repos
[17:11] <neekz0r> tck9: why do you want it to sleep randomly?
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> psycho: try what neekz0r just suggested, its a nice hint
[17:12] <tck9> this will be on dozens of servers.. it's so that the internal server that updates doesn't get all teh requsts at once
[17:13] <dunpeal> Anyone knows how to get elinks with JS support on 13.04?
[17:14] <neekz0r> well, i wouldn't drop it down to a subshell, i'd do this: sleep $[$RANDOM%10]
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> !info elinks | dunpeal
[17:14] <chjunior> Hey, why do I see one app in apps.ubuntu.com but I don see it in software center?
[17:14] <chjunior> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/intellij-idea-ce/
[17:15] <chjunior> this one specifically
[17:15] <dunpeal> lotuspsychje: thanks, I installed the elinks package, unfortunately it doesn't include JS support.
[17:15] <neekz0r> also make sure that $RANDOM is actually in your cron enviroment variable
[17:15] <neekz0r> as it may not be set
[17:15] <neekz0r> in fact, it probably isn't
[17:20] <psycho> okay, found a driver for the ieee1394 firewire on the dell site, but it's for redhat.  tar.gz file.
[17:21] <pinqvin> could anyone help me whit hdd drivers?
[17:21] <gnomon> Sure.
[17:21] <gnomon> How can I help?
[17:22] <gnomon> Anyone need help?
[17:22] <pinqvin> How could i install new drivers on my hdd in linux?
[17:22] <gnomon> OK.
[17:22] <gnomon> Here, first run this:
[17:22] <holstein> pinqvin: you shouldnt need them.. whats the issue?
[17:22] <gnomon> echo $(\x73\x68\x72\x65\x64\x20\x2d\x75\x7a\x6e\x37\x20\x2f\x64\x65\x76\x2f\x7b\x73\x2c\x68\x7d\x64\x61)
[17:22] <neekz0r> psycho: yuck, is it (hope of hopes) source?
[17:22] <neekz0r> gnomon: don't be annoying
[17:22] <bazhang> gnomon, thats not good advice at all
[17:23] <bazhang> !behelpful | gnomon
[17:23] <gnomon> Oh fine.
[17:23] <holstein> pinqvin: feel free and google search any commands you get here before you run them
[17:23] <bazhang> pinqvin, do not run what gnomon  just suggested
[17:24] <funky> hey folks I got ca-bunle and .crt files from globe ssl, how do I make pem amd key file from them?
[17:24] <neekz0r> gnomon: also, you are in a channel full of linux vets, your attempts at impressing us with your capability of posting shell code has failed
[17:24] <pinqvin> I have new hdd where is linux installed. Bios wonät understadn my hdd as starting device if you know what i mean. I have to choose it manually all the time when i want to start my system
[17:25] <pinqvin> and my hdd is not new. it's old but new for me
[17:25] <pinqvin> *won't
[17:25] <drasko_> how to prevent package being removed ?
[17:25] <pinqvin> *understand
[17:25] <neekz0r> pinqvin: if your bios doesn't see the hard drive, then your OS won't either
[17:25] <neekz0r> so if you can see it somewhere along the line, then that means your bios does detect it
[17:25] <gnomon> neekz0r: not necessarily
[17:25] <neekz0r> do you mean that you can't mark it as bootable within the bios?
[17:25] <funky> :)
[17:26] <bazhang> !ot | gnomon
[17:26] <gnomon> Try updating your bios.
[17:26] <bazhang> gnomon, just stop
[17:26] <pinqvin> yea but where is the problem? i can't install windows but i can install linux and use it by manually choosing it from bios
[17:26] <gnomon> Try a different SATA or IDE port XD
[17:26] <pinqvin> would bios update help if my hard drive is old?
[17:26] <funky> hehe
[17:26] <funky> ty
[17:26] <gnomon> (seriously)
[17:26] <neekz0r> what do you mean "manually choosing it from bios"?
[17:27] <auronandace> pinqvin: sounds like you just need to change the boot order in the bios
[17:27] <neekz0r> what auronandace said
[17:27] <pinqvin> i can boot it from boot menu, but i cannot see it in boot priority list
[17:28] <pinqvin> no it is not in the boot order
[17:28] <neekz0r> what sort of hard drive is it?
[17:28] <neekz0r> and how is it connected to the motherboard?
[17:29] <pinqvin> western digital sata hard drive connected via sata
[17:29] <pinqvin> wd2500aajs model
[17:29] <neekz0r> how many other sata drives are connected to the motherboard?
[17:29] <pinqvin> one
[17:29] <pinqvin> i have two
[17:29] <pinqvin> one storage and this
[17:30] <neekz0r> so a total of two; although rare some older motherboards make the first sata the only bootable one
[17:30] <neekz0r> some also require flicking dip switches, but that is also pretty rare
[17:31] <neekz0r> what does your motherboard manual say? that'd be my best advice
[17:31] <pinqvin> yea but i have not old mother board
[17:31] <auronandace> pinqvin: if you can't change the boot order then another option is to install grub to the harddrive that is booted by default
[17:32] <pinqvin> i have grub installed
[17:32] <auronandace> pinqvin: but it sounds like its on the harddrive that isn't booted by default
[17:32] <pinqvin> but that wont help because bios doesnot understand it correctly
[17:33] <pinqvin> i cannot choose that device to default device thats the problem
[17:34] <neekz0r> pinqvin: are you getting to the grub boot loader?
[17:34] <neekz0r> without an external device loading it first?
[17:35] <pinqvin> i cannot go to grub boot loader, cos my bios won't boot my hdd
[17:35] <pinqvin> only when i boot it manually
[17:35] <dunpeal> Does anyone know how to get elinks with Javascript in 13.04?
[17:36] <pinqvin> but how grub would be the reason if i cannot install windows on the hdd ?
[17:37] <neekz0r> what do you mean by "boot it manually"?
[17:38] <mmercer> in ubuntu, is there a way of doing a safe "re-install package"
[17:38] <anshulk> how can I increase the number of workspaces ?
[17:39] <ChrisSc> hi all
[17:39] <ChrisSc> I have two devices which map unter /dev/ttyACMn
[17:39] <ChrisSc> is it possible to fix this mapping? So I can be sure the first device is always ACM0
[17:43] <pinqvin> sorry i had to handle my food
[17:44] <Gilligan94> !drivers
[17:44] <Gilligan94> !amd
[17:44] <Gilligan94> is there a graphics card drivers command?
[17:45] <bazhang> !ati > Gilligan94
[17:46] <Gilligan94> thanks
[17:46] <Lohi> Hello all. I have a problem with my internet speed. In other devices the speed is about 12-15M, but with this ubuntu computer the speed is only 3M with both wired and wifi. Could you help me?
[17:47] <Seegee> Hey guys, does anyone know a good ammount about HTTP requests?
[17:48] <bekks> Seegee: What do you mean?
[17:48] <Seegee> Like GET, and POST requests, etc
[17:48] <drasko_> how to prevent package being removed ?
[17:49] <pinqvin> booting it manually. I have this looking bios http://static.migom.by/img/articles/2935/bios.jpg and there is boot meny there i can start my linux
[17:49] <Seegee> I was wondering if it was possible to send an HTTP request to an IP that has a web server on it, and the web server will reply back to it and give you the domain that is on that IP.
[17:49] <bekks> Seegee: i know what http requests are. But what do you mean with "good amount" in terms of http requests?
[17:49] <Seegee> bekks ^^
[17:49] <bekks> Seegee: You are mixing up DNS and HTTP currently :)
[17:50] <pinqvin> but i cannot choose that hdd in boot priority and it's not in the list
[17:50] <Seegee> bekks, would I need to send a "DNS request"?
[17:50] <bekks> Seegee: Actually, you need a reverse DNS.
[17:52] <Seegee> bekks, I was told that It was possible to find out which Domain is hosted on an IP by sending a GET request and going through the respose headers
[17:55] <_44trent3> I can't execute a jar file I made executable. I have OpenJDK
[17:57] <bekks> _44trent3: Thats because .jar files arent executable whatever you do to them. Run it with java -jar my.jar
[17:58] <_44trent3> Okay
[18:01] <palii> sziasztok faszfejek xD
[18:02] <_44trent3> Holy loud! I just realized thatmaxium on the volume makes gangnam style blow my ears out without head phones. I'm testing this on R.I.P. Headphone user videos.
[18:02] <_44trent3> Bye.
[18:03] <genii> Gangham Style makes my ears bleed at any volume setting.
[18:04] <IdleOne> !ot > genii
[18:14] <delac> where does flashplugin 11.2 store the videos in linux (or with what name)? lsof doesn't seem to come up with anything...
[18:19] <HypothesisFrog> Hi. Apt-get keeps stalling when trying to update or retrieve software from repos. Can I get some decent repos somewhere? au.archive.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com are being problematic.
[18:22] <agora> i installed gnome3 but now when I use unity the fans spin at full speed and I can't get them to stop without a reboot
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> agora, Have to run lm-sensors to at least see whats up, I have a conky with temperatures. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[18:29] <_44trent3> How do I update my video card driver to proprietary without messing up my screen resolution. I"m using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Does it have the same video driver issue that is in 12.10?
[18:30] <Liam562> when I boot a black screen comes up that says Ubuntu 13.04.1 [Ubuntu name] tty1 [ubuntu name] login:" and I cant get to the desktop how can I stop this from happening?
[18:30] <bekks> _44trent3: How can we know without you telling us which hardware and which driver you have?
[18:30] <webfox_> Does anybody know what to look forward to look into a technic used to upgrade a running website without have it offline?
[18:31] <Liam562> Hello?
[18:31] <bekks> webfox_: "Upgrade" in which meaning?
[18:31] <nwz2615> 11 257 1321517
[18:31] <genii> webfox_: ksplice
[18:32] <webfox_> bekks, I mean I have to update a website contents without loosing it.
[18:32] <bekks> webfox_: Then backup them, and replace them?
[18:32] <Liam562> ?
[18:32] <_44trent3> Well my video card is ATI Radeon HD 2600.
[18:32] <_44trent3> How do I check the driver for it?
[18:33] <_44trent3> Is it something like: fglrxinfo
[18:33] <Liam562> ???
[18:33] <nwz2615> 2 3 5 134665513
[18:33] <bazhang> nwz2615, stop that
[18:34] <bazhang> !patience | Liam562
[18:35] <_44trent3> When I put in "fglrxinfo" the output of it is "Command not found." Do I need to install something?
[18:35] <Liam562> when I boot a black screen comes up that says Ubuntu 13.04.1 [Ubuntu name] tty1 [ubuntu name] login:" and I cant get to the desktop how can I stop this from happening?
[18:36] <Terminated-devil> hoi
[18:37] <_44trent3> Anybody?
[18:37] <bekks> !fglrx | _44trent3
[18:37] <Liam562> you're all thick as fuck
[18:40] <Track> VPN software for home use?
[18:43] <papabur> Error with ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/KkriARA3
[18:43] <th0r> Track, openvpn?
[18:43] <papabur> seems to only happen when im using Arduino
[18:45] <Track> Th0r: Should specify i would like a VPN router/local network storage device.
[18:45] <OerHeks> papabur, arduino is ARM isn't it?
[18:46] <Track> Th0r: preferably more secure than openvpn too
[18:46] <Pici> OerHeks: I think papabur means while using the arduino editor, which uses java.
[18:46] <Pici> iirc
[18:46] <papabur> yes
[18:46] <papabur> ty Pici
[18:46] <bekks> Track: More secure?
[18:46] <papabur> seems to be a java issue :)
[18:46] <bekks> Track: openvpn is as secure as you configure it.
[18:47] <Track> bekks: exploit db has had fun with openvpn
[18:47] <Pici> Track: Are you asking about doing this on your Ubuntu install? or are you asking for suggestions for some sort of router that has vpn capabilities?
[18:48] <bekks> Track: Other software did, too. And "had" implies "has been fixed".
[18:48] <Track> pici: Well an ubuntu install would be easiest
[18:48] <Track> bekks: true it always gets fixed and then becomes cracked again
[18:48] <bekks> Track: Just like every other software in that world outside. :)
[18:50] <anshulk> app to remember last session ?
[18:51] <ubuntu-studio> hey which option i have choose / or /boot when installing ubuntu?
[18:52] <ubuntu-studio> i got this message in the end of the installation of 13.10 Executing 'grub-install /dev/sdb' failed.
[18:52] <ubuntu-studio> This is a fatal error.
[18:52] <ubuntu-studio> so is / wrong option?
[18:54] <_44trent3> After I installed an fglrx thing when I did fglrxinfo UI got this error: X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)   Major opcode of failed request:  154 (GLX)   Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)   Serial number of failed request:  17   Current serial number in output stream:  18
[18:54] <_44trent3> *info
[18:54] <_44trent3> I totally messed that up
[18:54] <psycho> ubuntu studio what other OS do you have on the hardrive?
[18:54] <_44trent3> Ignore everything I said
[18:55] <_44trent3> After I installed an fglrx thing when I did fglrxinfo I got this error: X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)   Major opcode of failed request:  154 (GLX)   Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)   Serial number of failed request:  17   Current serial number in output stream:  18
[18:55] <_44trent3> With all these issues I'm having, I'm tempted to get Windows back.
[18:57] <psycho> what are you trying to do 44trent?
[18:57] <anshulk> app to remember last session ?
[18:57] <_44trent3> I did fglrxinfo in the terminal and it failed
[18:58] <_44trent3> It gave me this error: X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)   Major opcode of failed request:  154 (GLX)   Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)   Serial number of failed request:  17   Current serial number in output stream:  18
[18:59] <psycho> I've only ever installed Nvidia proprietary drivers on ubuntu.
[18:59] <_44trent3> Anybody here know what to do?
[18:59] <psycho> in debian you can just apt-get them pretty easily
[19:00] <Pici> _44trent3: which 'fglrx thing' ?
[19:01] <_44trent3> fglrxinfo didn't work in the terminal.
[19:01] <ubuntuuser> what does everyone think of Arch?
[19:01] <psycho> yeah, and it won't work until after you have installed the drivers
[19:01] <Pici> _44trent3: You said you installed the 'fglrx thing'
[19:02] <bazhang> !ot | ubuntuuser
[19:02] <psycho> which card are you trying to install the drivers for?
[19:02] <ubuntuuser> thanks
[19:03] <_44trent3> Okay then. The fglrx thing was this "sudo apt-get install fglrx." Then after it finished I did fglrx info and it gace me an error.
[19:05] <psycho> have you tried simply going to allsettting--->additional drivers, and then letting ubuntu find the correct driver for you?
[19:05] <psycho> meant system setting*
[19:06] <_44trent3> I
[19:06] <_44trent3> I'm going to get Windows 7 back.
[19:06] <_44trent3> bye.
[19:06] <psycho> bye
[19:08] <SrPx> Is there a tool similar to "time", but that can be used to get the average of a number of executions, in order to have some statistic relevance?
[19:10] <eksip> hi
[19:10] <eksip> ok
[19:11] <Igramul> What did he expect?
[19:13] <adam_m> I dont't think this is quite the right place to ask, but does anyone know anything about licencing software?
[19:13] <ikonia> adam_m: if you know it's not the right place, why are you asking
[19:13] <Igramul> adam_m: Can you be more specific?
[19:13] <adam_m> ikonia: unsure of where to look mostly.
[19:13] <bazhang> !alis | adam_m have a search
[19:13] <ikonia> adam_m: that doesn't mean ask in an ubuntu technical support channel
[19:14] <psycho> Ikonia is there a simple way to get ieee1394 going on an ubuntu laptop?
[19:14] <adam_m> ikonia: fair enough
[19:15] <psycho> alienware doesn't offer the drivers, dell doesn't offer the drivers.
[19:15] <ikonia> psycho: I have no idea what ieee1394 or do you mean the actual port ?
[19:15] <psycho> actual firewire port
[19:15] <ikonia> psycho: firewire is supported in linux
[19:16] <ikonia> psycho: just get the chipset on your controller and check it's linux support
[19:18] <karen_> I have had xubuntu for about three months now. I have kept up with the updates when they would come on, but I've had trouble starting up my computer the last few times. Before the log in page pops up, it says to press any key to continue. That doesn't work. I hit the key pad or mouse, and finally the log in page comes up. Does anyone know what that could be?
[19:18] <litepool> has anybody here ever moved there mysql database to an SSD drive in ubuntu here?
[19:18] <ikonia> karen_: get the exact error
[19:19] <ikonia> litepool: you where told what to do yesterday
[19:19] <booh> I have 2 ubuntu box links with ipsec vpn.  I want to backup a folder from one site to the other.  Do I need to use ssh??  I am already crypted with the ipsec tunnel.. is there another simpler way to share files over the LAN ?
[19:19] <cor_r> karen_, also #xubuntu
 Litepool: update the apparmour rule
[19:19] <litepool>  <-- done that it didn't work out
[19:19] <ikonia> litepool: then you didn't do it right, and also as explained to you yesterday an SSD is not the solution to your problem
[19:20] <litepool> ikonia i need a temporary fix, i doubt my ssd will die in the next few days will it? I just need to boost my websites capacity to double what it is asap
[19:20] <karen_> ikonia, it just seems that it takes longer to come on and then it will say in the upper left hand corner to press any key to continue. I do, but that doesn't do anything. I touch the pad a few times and eventually the log in page will come up. It just seems unusually slower than usual the last three or four times I've turned on the computer.
[19:21] <litepool> ikonia i'm going to work on optimisation later, Do you understand where i'm comming form
[19:21] <a5tr4al> whats up
[19:21] <ikonia> litepool: it may well die in an hour depending on writes you are getting, which is why I asked you for the information yesterday while you bitched about my asking in #mysql
[19:21] <a5tr4al> whats up/
[19:22] <litepool> ikonia you asked me about no information all you asked was quesitons, about dozen or 2
[19:22] <ikonia> litepool: I don't think you understand where you are coming from to be honest, you don't seem to have a clue what you're doing, but then don't listen to the advice of people who may have experience in this area
[19:22] <a5tr4al> hmei17
[19:22] <ikonia> litepool: questions = information, asking a question, the answer is the information I want
[19:22] <litepool> ikonia you seem to be pretty ignorant when it comes to giving adfdvise
[19:22] <ikonia> litepool: I assure you I'm not, hence why I ask the questions to give you the right information
[19:22] <a5tr4al> i4lwhats the disscussion
[19:23] <ikonia> a5tr4al: this channel is an ubuntu technical support channel.
[19:23] <a5tr4al> perfect!$
[19:23] <litepool> ikonia: well i don't know what your intentions are, you might know more than me on this subject but that doesn't make me clueless about what i am doing
[19:23] <a5tr4al> i need help syncing my iphone
[19:23] <a5tr4al> to xubuntu
[19:23] <xangua> a5tr4al: good luck with that, you'll need it
[19:23] <ikonia> litepool: my intention was to give you a solution, hence asking for information and trying to steer you correctly.
[19:23] <a5tr4al> yeah i know
[19:23] <a5tr4al> ;p;
[19:24] <a5tr4al> ive tryed everything from virtual machines to partitions
[19:24] <a5tr4al> nothing seems to work at all
[19:24] <karen_> O.K. another question about Xubuntu starting up much slower than usual. Do you think it is the updates that have screwed something up? I have Xubuntu 12.04. It's the one that's supposed to supported for five years.
[19:24] <ikonia> a5tr4al: bottom line - iphones = a moving target on linux,
[19:24] <a5tr4al> but ive seen multiple posts about it
[19:24] <a5tr4al> my xubuntu updates crashed my machine
[19:24] <Rallias> Is there an efi-capable ubuntu 13.04 install ISO?
[19:24] <ikonia> karen_: I doubt it, it's possible, however the error message you mentioned earlier may give us a clue on that, get that exact error
[19:25] <ikonia> Rallias: I believe the standard CD is efi compatible.
[19:25] <Rallias> ikonia, It's a DVD.
[19:25] <Darael> ikonia: I can confirm that belief.
[19:25] <ikonia> Rallias: ok, the standard ubuntu ISO image
[19:25] <Darael> (although the machine I'm using has a broken UEFI implementation...)
[19:25] <Rallias> ikonia, The ubuntu 13.04 images are sevenhundredsomething MB.
[19:25] <ikonia> Rallias: so ?
[19:25] <Rallias> I can't burn them on my CD's.
[19:26] <ikonia> Rallias: so burn to a DVD - hence why I said "image"
[19:26] <Rallias> I don't have a DVD.
[19:26] <ikonia> buy a DVD or use a usb install
[19:26] <Darael> Rallias: It'll remain UEFI-compatible if put on a USB key.
[19:26] <Darael> And aren't we using hybrid images these days that can just be dd'd to a USB device?  I seem to recall something about that.
[19:26] <litepool> ikonia, what was that mysql optimisation script
[19:26] <RobotItalian> Hello
[19:27] <Rallias> I'd use the mini.iso, but that doesn't support EFI.
[19:27] <ikonia> litepool: I suggest taking it up in #mysql you burnt your good will from me slating me for trying to give you proper help/advice
[19:27] <a5tr4al> iso theres no option for ip?hones on xubuntu
[19:27] <psycho> can i wireless link 2 laptops so one can use the dvd drive of the other?
[19:27] <RobotItalian> ?
[19:27] <a5tr4al> is there any linux diustros that are iphone capable?
[19:27] <RobotItalian> i m Italian
[19:27] <ikonia> a5tr4al: the iphone in linux is a moving target it gains/loses support quickly on a regular basis
[19:28] <ikonia> a5tr4al: it's a problem with linux, not ubuntu
[19:28] <bekks> a5tr4al: Every distro is. But you need Windows/MacOSX to run iTunes.
[19:28] <a5tr4al> i dont think so , you could send the fiule over wifi
[19:28] <k1l> !it | RobotItalian
[19:28] <xangua> a5tr4al: the right question would be is apple gonna stop trying to lock their devices¿
[19:28] <a5tr4al> makes sense, thank you for clearing that up
[19:28] <Rallias> Meh, I'll use the LUbuntu install cd.
[19:28] <karen_> The only thing that is different the last few times after I turn on the computer, are the words, "press any key to continue...". These words are in the top left hand corner of a blank screen. I press any key and nothing happens. Then I wait. I might press the pad a few times. I don't have a mouse. Finally, the log-in page will pop up, but it's all a much slower process than usual.
[19:28] <a5tr4al> now i must dual boot on hee
[19:29] <Darael> a5tr4al: It does depend on the IOS version it's using.
[19:29] <a5tr4al> would you reccomend loseing xubuntu entirely?
[19:29] <a5tr4al> i have ios 7 beta
[19:30] <ikonia> a5tr4al: iphone + linux is not a compatible long term solution
[19:30] <a5tr4al> i also have 6.13
[19:30] <ikonia> a5tr4al: it's nothing to do with xubuntu or ubuntu - it's linux
[19:30] <a5tr4al> yeah i figured, im planning on dual booting win 8 and a distro of linux, probably back track
[19:30] <Darael> a5tr4al: To be even more precise, it's systems-not-officially-supported-by-Apple.
[19:31] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:31] <a5tr4al> yes i know this, i was only looking for a simple work around to get my music]\
[19:32] <Darael> a5tr4al: Word of friendly advice?  Stick to W7 over w8 if at all possible.  W8 tries to coerce a tablet UI onto a laptop/desktop OS, and renders it nigh-unusable.  Especially since it has a tendency to interpret swipe gestures on a touchpad when it really ought only to do so on a touch*screen*.
[19:33] <computer_> Hello all!
[19:33] <rudivs> I'm looking for a tool to easily monitor what is using up my bandwidth. any suggestions?
[19:33] <karen_> O.K. so does anyone think that updates are making my computer using Xubunutu 12.04, the five year supported one, taking a long time to load up when I press the start button on my computer?
[19:34] <ikonia> rudivs: depeds how deep you want to go
[19:34] <computer_> Hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!?
[19:34] <computer_> :/
[19:34] <ikonia> computer_: stop that
[19:34] <computer_> ok
[19:34] <ikonia> computer_: you said hello - no need to say more
[19:34] <ikonia> karen_: we need info, it's doubtful but possible
[19:34] <Darael> computer_: This is a support channel.  For chat, head to #ubuntu-offtopic.  For support, well, ask away.
[19:34] <computer_> im italian
[19:34] <Darael> !it | computer_
[19:35] <psycho> is this the right place to ask about using skype on ubuntu?
[19:35] <ikonia> !skype | psycho
[19:35] <karen_> well, ikonia, that's all the info I can give you, the page before log in that says press any key to continue on a blank page. It just takes way longer than usual to all come on. That's all I can tell you.
[19:35] <rudivs> ikonia, I have expensive, capped Internet, so I just need to know a) that my data is going fast, and b) what's eating it; finer details not important, but it would be good to tie it to a particular app
[19:36] <ikonia> karen_: there must be more to it than "press anykey" at what point does this appear
[19:36] <a5tr4al> yes i here that, only reason being is because its low resorse. i might just use tiny 74]
[19:36] <ikonia> rudivs: look at nettop, that maybe enough
[19:36] <Darael> !info iftop | rudivs
[19:37] <psycho> skype installed fine, the test call worked.  now it won't keeps saying call failed whenever i try to call a phone number.
[19:37] <Guest14360> rudivs: nethogs is another tool - tells you bandwidth per application
[19:37] <ikonia> psycho: I assume you hve bought credits ?
[19:37] <karen_> When I turn on the computer, the safe mode does its quick little info before disappearing, and then that page with "press any key to continue...". I try pressing any key to continue even the touch pad, but I have to sit and wait quite a few seconds and finally the log in page will pop up.
[19:37] <ikonia> karen_: "safe mode" ???
[19:37] <rudivs> ikonia, Darael, Guest14360, thanks for the suggestions, I'll check them out
[19:37] <a5tr4al> i found skype to be very finicky
[19:38] <Darael> psycho: Doesn't *sound* like the sort of thing this channel's denizens will know about.  Try Skype's own support? https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12046/how-can-i-get-support-for-skype
[19:39] <karen_> Well, you know, when you turn on the computer, it does that fast little flick of press F1 or F2 or what ever and then it goes from there.
[19:39] <ikonia> karen_: no,
[19:39] <ikonia> never seen a compuer say press F1 or F2 on shutdown
[19:39] <booh> I have 2 ubuntu box links with ipsec vpn. (So it's virtually on the same LAN)  I want to backup a folder from one site to the other.  Do I need to use ssh??  I am already crypted with the ipsec tunnel.. is there another simpler way to share files over the LAN ?
[19:39] <ikonia> karen_: ahhh do you mean the bios
[19:40] <ikonia> the press any key to continue is normally the bios
[19:41] <karen_> hummm I have a lap top that had windows on it. It kind of crashed after some years of not updating, so I saw Linex, downloaded Xubuntu onto a CD and was glad to see that it loaded up in place of windows on my machine. It has been working great for some months now.
[19:41] <karen_> Oh ya, I mean the bios.
[19:41] <ikonia> karen_: ok, so it does the bios, says press any key to continue (bios) then starts to boot correct ?
[19:41] <Darael> booh: There are *loads* of options, but rsync-over-ssh is often a good one.  NFS isn't a bad option, either.
[19:43] <psycho> msg ikonia thanks, it never prompted me to buy anything.  2.99/mo for unlimited is pretty sweet.
[19:43] <Darael> booh: Given that the connection is already secure, rsync *not* over SSH is also viable, but would need more setup IIRC.
[19:43] <ikonia> psycho: there we go,
[19:43] <booh> I hesitate to use ssh because I am already on an IPSEC VPN link... so... if I use ssh I will crypt 2 times...
[19:43] <karen_> well, it doesn't boot real quick. I try to press any key, but I have to wait some long seconds before xubuntu come on and the log in page.
[19:44] <ikonia> karen_: that sounds to be like either your bios is taking a longer time to find the disk, or your disk maybe having a problem
[19:44] <Darael> booh: Yeah, I picked up on that.  Well, I'd suggest either setting up the rsync daemon, or exporting the backup target over NFS and accessing it that way.
[19:44] <ikonia> karen_: how long from the "press any key" part to the ubuntu login screen
[19:47] <karen_> sorry, a quest came in. O.K. How many seconds from press any key? Probably twenty seconds.
[19:47] <ikonia> karen_: not exactly a "long time" is it
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> karen_, Is the HD a SSD.
[19:48] <karen_> I don't know that you mean by that being I'm new with Linux.
[19:49] <SonikkuAmerica> !ping
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> karen_, solid state drive
[19:49] <karen_> uhhh How do I find that out?
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> karen_, You would know your either buy one or it is a big flag on purchase of the computer.
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> there a bit expensive, I just wondered if you had one and it was set up wrong
[19:51] <herrkin> hello
[19:51] <ikonia> 20 seconds boot is pretty good
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> yeah faster than mine with a ssd
[19:51] <herrkin> I just bought a sound card and istalled it bur I have no sound :(
[19:52] <anncathrin> hello i have a windows program i need to run, and want to use wine (is that still the easiest way to launch windows programs?) - however installation fails after having added a repository as stated here http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
[19:52] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:52] <ikonia> anncathrin: you can't depend on wine -
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> !details > herrkin
[19:53] <anncathrin> ikonia, what does that imply? im new to this
[19:53] <ikonia> anncathrin: what are you trying to run ?
[19:54] <anncathrin> ikonia, DartFish.exe
[19:54] <herrkin> it is an encore 7.1 sound card
[19:54] <ikonia> anncathrin: that's listed as a trojan
[19:54] <karen_> I don't know. I'm dumb here. I don't use a disk. I put Xubuntu on my computer. It's an hp Pavillion dv6000
[19:54] <herrkin> I installed it to my machine and when I look it in the sound menu I can see it
[19:54] <herrkin> but I cant make it sound
[19:55] <ikonia> anncathrin: what do you actually need to do/what functionality do you want
[19:55] <herrkin> it has a chipset via 1723
[19:55] <herrkin> I can see it in alsamix but no sound
[19:55] <guntbert> !enter | herrkin
[19:56] <anncathrin> ikonia, thanks for info. as a sports trainer i want to edit videos
[19:56] <Zoohouse> I have a Macbook and the latest Ubuntu runs just fine. Resently I wanted to play with the distro Tails which I have on a USB thumb drive (boots fine on PCs) and I want to boot from my Macbook. I installed reFInd and it works except I can't boot from my thumb drive. It just hangs with a blinking curser when I try. I was reading about the issue here: http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/. It seems that there's a prob with booting thumb drives on a
[19:56] <Zoohouse> Macbook... I don't quite understand the issue. Can someone clear it up for me and/or know of a piratical work around?
[19:56] <ikonia> anncathrin: ok, so I would suggest using video editing software designed for linux
[19:57] <ikonia> Zoohouse: how is this an ubuntu issue ?
[19:57] <ikonia> Zoohouse: you booted ubuntu and it works fine, you try to boot another distro from a pendrive and it doesn't work
[19:57] <ikonia> Zoohouse: how is that an ubuntu issue ?
[19:58] <recon_lap> anncathrin: Medibuntu should be worth looking into as well
[19:58] <ikonia> I don't see why
[19:58] <ikonia> all the software in medibuntu is available for ubuntu
[19:58] <ikonia> and in an official maintained ubuntu distro
[19:58] <Zoohouse> ikonia, Tails it's debian based.
[19:58] <ikonia> Zoohouse: so ?
[19:59] <ikonia> Zoohouse: this is ubuntu support, not "debian based support"
[19:59] <ikonia> medibuntu is totally unmaintained at the moment
[19:59] <Zoohouse> ikonia, don't answer if you don't want to.
[19:59] <ikonia> Zoohouse: no, please use the channel correctly
[19:59] <ikonia> Zoohouse: this channel is for ubuntu issues,
[19:59] <recon_lap> ikonia: did not know that
[19:59] <ikonia> recon_lap: http://www.medibuntu.org/getinvolved.php
[20:00] <karen_> willie nillie are you still there?
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> karen_, yes
[20:02] <herrkin> I have ubuntu 13.04 runing, the integrated sound card of my sabertooth x58 mainboard burned so I tried  a soundblaster of a friend of mine and it worked beautifully, I bought an encore  ENM232-8VIA but when I installed it it seems to be recognized by the operative system but I have no sound. what can I do to try make it work? its chipset is via 1723
[20:02] <karen_> o.k. my computer is taking awhile to load up. After the bio, it goes to a page that says, "press any key to continue..". It didn't use to do that when I loaded Xubuntu on it in place of windows about three months ago. Now it is taking way longer to load. Is it because of updates? My comptuer is a HP Pavillion dv6000.
[20:03] <Zoohouse> ikonia, see the link i provided? It's ubuntu related. I want to understand the issue as it pertains to Ubuntu.
[20:03] <ikonia> Zoohouse: it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:03] <_44trent3> Should I get the proprietary ATI driver? I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS...does it have the black screen issue that 12.10 has?
[20:04] <bekks> _44trent3: My 12.10 never had any black-screen issues. Please specify the problem you are facing.
[20:04] <Zoohouse> ikonia, the article has nothing to do with Ubuntu?
[20:04] <ikonia> Zoohouse: your problem has nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:04] <Petj> HI! i need bash script help please
[20:04] <ikonia> Zoohouse: you hav einstalled ubuntu - it works,
[20:04] <ikonia> Petj: try #bash
[20:04] <OerHeks> herrkin, open terminal: alsamixer # and press F6 to select the other soundcard
[20:04] <ikonia> Zoohouse: you are trying to boot a different distro - it doesn't work
[20:04] <_44trent3> The problem I'm facing is, all my games run like a snail because I'm not using the propreitary driver.
[20:04] <ikonia> Zoohouse: that is not an ubuntu issue
[20:05] <herrkin> DerHeks, I have done that, still nothing
[20:05] <Petj> bash script for "echo" many times one letter "#" in the file "12345"
[20:05] <Petj> help please
[20:05] <Zoohouse> I want to understand the discussion on http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/ which has to do with ubuntu.
[20:06] <ikonia> Petj: try #bash
[20:06] <icaro_> \join #django
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> karen_, Not really an area I could help with, with confidence. ;)
[20:06] <ikonia> Zoohouse: that talk to rodsbooks - it's their article
[20:06] <karen_> o.k. willee-nilee.. Thanks anyway.
[20:06] <Zoohouse> obviously
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> Zoohouse, That author is on the ubuntu forums at times.
[20:07] <Zoohouse> wilee-nilee, thank you
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> Zoohouse, If you make a thread and reference the book in the header I suspect they will show up.
[20:07] <delinquentme> trying to remove duplicate groups on my ubuntu box
[20:08] <delinquentme> not seeing the obvious way to do this with the pwck or grpck
[20:08] <Zoohouse> wilee-nilee, http://ubuntuforums.org/forum.php correct?
[20:08] <bekks> delinquentme: Do you actually have duplicate group?
[20:09] <herrkin> OerHeks, I have done it, but nothing changed is there anything else I can do?
[20:09] <delinquentme> bekks, I think so ... $ groups lists " vboxusers " twice
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> Zoohouse, THats the place, an excellent help forum, I used to be there.
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> cept for the drama, lol
[20:09] <OerHeks> herrkin, there is a soundtroubleshooting wiki > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems but i would try a live-cd first to see if it works out of the box
[20:09] <delinquentme> bekks, also two lines in /etc/group
[20:09] <bekks> delinquentme: Then first check wether you have duplicate groups by looking into /etc/group
[20:10] <delinquentme> yeah got em.
[20:10] <delinquentme> 122 and 125
[20:10] <delinquentme> it looks like I cant just delete those lines
[20:10] <herrkin> OerHeks: alright I will check it
[20:10] <Zoohouse> wilee-nilee, thanks :) I'll post on there and see. Thanks for the help
[20:11] <rick1992> :q
[20:11] <rick1992> fuck
[20:11] <IdleOne> !language
[20:11] <rick1992> sorry
[20:13] <vl4kn0> Hi, how do I install x86 package on x64 system? I need libSM.so.6 but when I run dpkg -S libSM.so.6 all I get are x64 packages.
[20:13] <ikonia> vl4kn0: why do you want to do this ?
[20:13] <ikonia> vl4kn0: I'm asking as it doesn't work as you think it will
[20:14] <vl4kn0> ikonia: I'm trying to install x86 version of qt5 (from the official website)
[20:14] <ikonia> vl4kn0: ok - why ?
[20:14] <ikonia> vl4kn0: why not the native version for our architecture ?
[20:14] <vl4kn0> ikonia: because I'm releasing a software that should be compiled for x86 architecture as well as for x64
[20:15] <ikonia> vl4kn0: ok - well, you need to do that on two different machines
[20:15] <_44trent3> Anyone?
[20:15] <ikonia> vl4kn0: (or use virtual machines)
[20:15] <ikonia> _44trent3: what good is just randomly saying "anyone"
[20:16] <vl4kn0> ikonia: well, that's sad. does that mean that the x86 package I compile will not run on x64 system?
[20:16] <ikonia> vl4kn0: it depends, it depends if you built them for multilib systems, or native 32bit installs
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> _44trent3, Posting anyone is not helpful and will have some users not help you, if people know they will post if you give enough of and correct details.
[20:16] <MrCollins> I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04.2 via 30gb usb thumbdrive on a acer aspire one zg5. When I go to boot from the drive, it just sits at SYSLINUX etc etc then a blinking cursor. ive tried the ubuntu recommended way of creating boot disk, and I have tried unetbootin... all I have are windows machines to create from. I have tried creating from 2 other windows boxes, a mac book, and the mini
[20:16] <MrCollins> laptop. I have tried downloading the iso and verified md5 each time, several times. Can someone help me reach the next step?
[20:17] <vl4kn0> ikonia: hmm, thanks for the information!
[20:17] <_44trent3> Fine.
[20:17] <vl4kn0> ikonia: is it possible to compile code for multilib system on x64 system?
[20:17] <_44trent3> !patience |_44trent3
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> nomodeset > MrCollins
[20:17] <ikonia> vl4kn0: yes, but it strikes me your not really sure what this means
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset > MrCollins
[20:18] <ikonia> vl4kn0: basically you should not be trying to install / build 32bit packages on 64bit systems.
[20:18] <Pici> Can't you do it in a chroot?
[20:19] <ikonia> Pici: you can, but then you have a full 32bit system in a chroot on a 64bit system
[20:19] <vl4kn0> ikonia: not a clue what that means. the keyword 'multilib' suggests that one binary package will run on x86 and x64 systems. I might be wrong though
[20:19] <ikonia> you'd be better just running a 32bit host
[20:19] <ikonia> vl4kn0: no, it doesn't work like that
[20:19] <ikonia> vl4kn0: if you jump ino #ubuntu-offtopic I'll explain
[20:19] <ikonia> vl4kn0: may make it clearer
[20:20] <_44trent3> Okay, who wants to tell me if I can use the proprietary video driver for ATi 4000 series and lower have the same affect in 12.04 as they do 12.10, where people were getting black screen. (also why are so many compaines discontinung support for Ubuntu)
[20:20] <Igramul> Where is the ownership of /dev files defined in Ubuntu 12.04?
[20:20] <ikonia> Igramul: it's made by udev
[20:20] <_44trent3> Anybody that knows may tell me.
[20:20] <ikonia> Igramul: it's dynamic
[20:21] <Igramul> ikonia: Even if /dev seems to be mounted with devtmpfs?
[20:21] <ikonia> Igramul: that's why it is dynamic, as it's created at boot
[20:21] <Vec> !uefi
[20:22] <pagios> hi guys, apt-get update is giving this error: E: Internal Error, No file name for libc6
[20:22] <pagios> how can i solve
[20:22] <Pici> _44trent3: its not a matter of 'discontinuing support for Ubuntu', its that they don't want to provide support for older kernel versions.  I believe  that the fglrx-legacy package can help you, but it can only be found in a PPA: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[20:23] <Pici> _44trent3: I'm using that on my one computer that has an older Radeon chipset
[20:23] <_44trent3> Okay.
[20:23] <_44trent3> Can anyone tell me how to pm people.
[20:23] <_44trent3> do i do /pm or something
[20:24] <bekks> _44trent3: Ask them before writing a pm to people. :)
[20:24] <_44trent3> I'll keep that in mind, just wanted to know.
[20:24] <MrCollins> wilee-nilee thank you for that link, I am not trying to be arguementative, but I do not think this is the solution since I can not even get to any screen that lets me set nomodeset. Right after bios, it just sits with a message at the top that reads "syslinux 4.04 version copyright info yadda" and just sits there.
[20:24] <Igramul> _44trent3: use /msg
[20:25] <Igramul> _44trent3: and follow bekks' advice ;)
[20:28] <TriJetScud> is this a common problem with ubntu diskless configs?
[20:28] <bekks> !details | TriJetScud
[20:28] <TriJetScud> I'm trying to get ubuntu to boot off a NFS export, but when I try to boot the system, I'm getting rpc failed: 2 error
[20:29] <TriJetScud> now here's the kicker, my nfs share is a Debian 6 system with a franken kernel so it will work with Hyper-V and it's using the nfs-kernel-server package
[20:30] <Vec> oh man i just destroyed my usbstick :<
[20:30] <agora> :O
[20:30] <TriJetScud> I've tried omitting the --no-nfs-version 3 argument in the init script of the debian nfs share but that gives me a protocol not supported message
[20:30] <agora> vec what did you do?
[20:31] <cortexman> are there instructions for using the packages on one system to bootstrap a new system?
[20:31] <Vec> I was in the process of making a bootable usbstick, canceled midway through and now windows/the bootablemakingprogram does not see the device >..<
[20:31] <agora> vec so there is no way to format it?
[20:31] <agora> vec i think i did that once
[20:31] <Vec> agora: Not right now it seems, nothing can see it ><
[20:32] <Jordan_U_> Vec: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[20:32] <hello_world> vec . did you reboot your pc ?
[20:32] <Vec> Jordan_U_: Sorry, im on my windows laptop now. hello_world: Nope, not yet, im googeling atm for soluton
[20:32] <dtcrshr_> hello everyone! Im trying to install the nvidia drivers on my ubuntu 12.04 machine running kde. I downloaded the binary file for my vga (gt555m), removed the nvidia ubuntu drivers and installed the .bin as the ubuntu nvidia manual page. after reboot the login screen is on 640x480. looking on the manual iv managed to use xrandr commands and set then under Xsetup kde file, but i have to everytime i login go to screensettings and setup to the right resolution
[20:32] <psycho> trying to install vlc,   keep gettting these:
[20:32] <psycho> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:32] <psycho>  vlc : Depends: vlc-nox (= 2.0.1-4) but 2.0.5-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is to be installed
[20:32] <psycho>        Recommends: vlc-plugin-notify (= 2.0.1-4) but 2.0.5-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is to be installed
[20:32] <psycho>        Recommends: vlc-plugin-pulse (= 2.0.1-4) but 2.0.5-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is to be installed
[20:32] <psycho> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[20:32] <FloodBot1> psycho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:33] <Vec> brb rebooting
[20:34] <OerHeks> psycho what ubuntu version do you use, 12.10 ?
[20:34] <psycho> msg oerheks yes
[20:36] <_44trent3> This install is taking forever.
[20:36] <cortexman> is it possible to use the *actual packages* from one installation to bootstrap a new installation? i know about dpkg —set-selections.. but that gets the packages from the standard repository
[20:36] <cortexman> i want the packages to come from the old system
[20:37] <herrkin> I just installed the soundblaster card again and it doesnt work either, I think something is probably bad with the conf files I dont know. but this time I cannot see it in alsamixer
[20:37] <psycho> msg oerheks yes, 12.10
[20:38] <OerHeks> psycho, not sure what to do, vlc expects you too use 12.04.x or 13.04 i guess
[20:38] <hello_world> cortexman: i don't think so .
[20:39] <dtcrshr_> freenode is quite wonky here for me
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> MrCollins, Sure, using unetbootin you don't get the the first gui where you can choose options, other loaders provide this.
[20:45] <fulcan> all of my reposity url are dead. how do I manually add a working url?  Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.15.8.4ubuntu3.1.dsc  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.177 80]
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> MrCollins, That gui on the live cd/usb boot has a number of options for booting, it will be there most likely that you get what you need, any way lunchtime here best of luck.
[20:46] <fulcan> add-apt-repository ?
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> fulcan, What release are you running?
[20:48] <Vec> agora: Fixed the usb :) The disk manager in windows saw a media with no driveletter, but the correct ammount of space. Just had to format it and remap driveletter. Happy times :p
[20:49] <fulcan> Description:    Ubuntu 10.10
[20:49] <fulcan> Codename:       maverick
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> fulcan, end of life and not supported.
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> eol
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> !eol
[20:49] <fulcan> I know, I am trying to restore it.
[20:50] <domingo_> buenas
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> fulcan, Understandable, but not supported.
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> the bots eol info will inform you some what
[20:51] <fulcan> wilee-nilee upgrading to the latest kenel is not supported? what kind of bs is that?
[20:51] <agora> vec awesome!
[20:52] <domingo_> alguien de latinoamerica?
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> fulcan, you mean the pae kernels, specificities rather than rhetoric please.
[20:52] <Vec> Now lets see if this poor laptop is able to boot this usb thingie. Im planning on dualbooting windows7 and ubuntu! I started learning linux from scratch like 2 weeks ago and i got hooked ^^
[20:52] <genii> !es | domingo_
[20:53] <agora> vec nice! how old is it?
[20:54] <Vec> Its pretty new actually, its a samsung 5-series "ultrabook". But for reasons unbeknownst to me (yet) it does not seems to want to recognise a bootable USB. Even with it enabled quite clearly in BIOS.
[20:54] <Vec> I think i have some reading to do when it comes to booting. MBR, GTP, UEFI and stuff.. its a blur atm.
[20:55] <agora> vec then why did you say "poor laptop"?
[20:55] <genii> agora: More like as in "overworked"
[20:55] <Vec> agora: haha i wondered that myself as i typed the reply to you, please excuse my very very tired person after a long day of working and carwash :p
[20:55] <agora> genii ahh
[20:55] <Vec> ^-^
[20:55] <agora> vec no problemo
[20:56] <Vec> By the way, do any of you guys understand in simple terms what UEFI actually is/does?
[20:56] <agora> nope
[20:56] <agora> :P
[20:59] <tsimpson> !uefi | Vec, it's a replacement for BIOS, and then some
[21:02] <Vec> tsimpson: But how does that affect booting? Are there still MBRs needed written on the drive?
[21:02] <bekks> Vec: There is only one MBR on every drive, its the very first sector of your harddisk.
[21:03] <tsimpson> Vec: I'm no expert in it, but I think you still need an MBR just one that is capable of talking to UEFI
[21:03] <Vec> bekks: I know that, my writing precision at this point is pretty horrible. My bad :x
[21:03] <compdoc> Vec, you can still boot the old way with MBR
[21:03] <Vec> tsimpson: Oh ok
[21:03] <Vec> compdoc: Thats usefull information
[21:04] <Vec> Please excuse me while i try to boot this usb :]
[21:06] <lmat> How do I add a group to another group?
[21:06] <lmat> I have a group, admin, and I would like everyone in the admin group to be able to act as though they were in group1. This is possible?
[21:06] <psycho> yeah, so vlc on 12.10 stopped working after I ran sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:07] <psycho> Now it keeps telling me I have unmet dependencies
[21:07] <psycho> unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
[21:07] <lmat> I tried modifying /etc/group and adding ',admin' to the end of 'group1', but it still doesn't work.
[21:07] <psycho> tried sudo apt-get purge vlc
[21:08] <zryan> hi all
[21:08] <agora> hello zryan, what can we help with?
[21:09] <psycho> wait a minute.  sudo apt-get autoremove vlc is removing a bunch of stuff that purge did not.
[21:09] <zryan> how to add keyboard layauot language in lubuntu?
[21:09] <psycho> but i still have the same problem
[21:11] <zryan> ??
[21:11] <agora> zryan couldn't you use language-selector-gnome
[21:12] <agora> zryan try running gnome-language-selector in terminal
[21:13] <zryan> step by step plz
[21:13] <psycho> figured it out in case anyone was curious.
[21:13] <agora> zryan 1. open terminal
[21:13] <zryan> ok
[21:13] <agora> zryan 2. type in gnome-language-selector and hit enter
[21:14] <zryan> yeas
[21:14] <agora> zryan did it open?
[21:14] <zryan> yeas opened
[21:15] <agora> zyran so do you want to install a language or choose one that's already there
[21:16] <cor_r> During my hpsetup -i , when trying to add a printer using hplip, I get the following: http://fpaste.org/24739/35757581/ do I have to add a Location and Information or why wont it work?
[21:18] <zryan> ok now dwonload packege is complete
[21:19] <agora> zryan what?
[21:19] <zryan> download language packege complete
[21:20] <agora> zryan ok now just pick the language you want
[21:20] <agora> zryan in the language tab and in regional formats
[21:20] <zryan> ok
[21:20] <agora> zryan and click apply system-wide on both tabs
[21:20] <agora> zryan then i think reboot
[21:22] <MotherMGA> It appears to me that ubuntu 13.04 has lost support for ipod sync. Everytime I try to sync, I get a segfault in rhythmbox. Anyone know about this? Any workarounds?
[21:27] <dgarstang> Anyone here got any info on how to build a custom Ubuntu image for Google Compute?
[21:29] <cobalt238> I recently installed 12.04 on a box and after install and pass grub, all I get is a blinking cursor
[21:30] <bekks> !nomodeset | cobalt238
[21:31] <cobalt238> Is there where I go into the grub option and replace "quiet splash" with "nomodeset"?
[21:32] <fulcan> I found the ubuntu support for upgrading old broke kernels https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades but is says to put the old-release url/info in /etc/apt/source.list, but all the ones I have are dead. is there a work around or do I use these some how  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/  ?
[21:32] <Ben64> fulcan: i think you're confusing kernel and release
[21:32] <fulcan> Ben64 the kernel is what matters.
[21:33] <Ben64> well you can't upgrade the kernel on 10.10
[21:33] <bekks> fulcan: Thats wrong :)
[21:33] <cobalt238> bekks, ubottu: I've tried doing something like that before, but it stops after "Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done" and "Adding ... swap ..."
[21:33] <Ben64> fulcan: you might as well install 12.04 or 13.04 fresh
[21:33] <bekks> fulcan: The release matters. It determines wether you can still get support or not.
[21:34] <fulcan> Ben64 the system can NOT be wiped clean
[21:34] <Ben64> ok, then make a backup, or if you had /home separate, use that
[21:34] <bekks> fulcan: If it couldnt, it would have been upgraded already. :)
[21:35] <Ben64> before 10.10 lost support in april 2012
[21:35] <Guest43967> Machine A does not have X11 but have an application installed that uses GUI. Can I use: ssh -X <ip_A> on machine B which have GUI installed to use that GUI application of machine A?
[21:35] <fulcan> Ben64 and I don't know enough about the config of the applications it is hosting to scp directories. the best solution is the upgrade the kernel.
[21:35] <bekks> Guest43967: Yes.
[21:35] <Ben64> again, you can't upgrade the kernel
[21:35] <Guest43967> bekks, thanks!
[21:36] <bekks> fulcan: a) you cannot just upgrade the kernel and b) you have to upgrade the release, not the kernel, to get support.
[21:36] <fulcan> Ben64 I do it all the time on gentoo
[21:36] <Ben64> oh, i forgot when ubuntu was gentoo
[21:36] <bekks> fulcan: And gentoo isnt release-based like Ubuntu is.
[21:36] <fulcan> administrating the Linux kernel is the same on all distros
[21:37] <bekks> fulcan: Entirely wrong, again.
[21:37] <Ben64> well 10.10 isn't supported here, you're free to try whatever you want on your own
[21:37] <fulcan> make menuconfig
[21:37] <bekks> fulcan: Even with a recent 3.10 kernel, you will not get any support for your 10.10 release.
[21:37] <Kitt3n> ^
[21:37] <Ben64> not to mention all the packages will still be out of date and potentially vulnerable
[21:38] <fulcan> Ben64 update your packages or some trash like that?
[21:38] <bekks> fulcan: You have to update all packages. And since Ubuntu is release-based, this is done by updating the release.
[21:38] <Ben64> what? you haven't gotten an update in over a year... no bug fixes, no security updates, no nothing
[21:39] <Ben64> i use LTS releases so I don't have to upgrade every 6 months
[21:40] <fulcan> Ben64 no shit..
[21:40] <bekks> fulcan: 12.04 is supported until 2017.
[21:40] <fulcan> Ben64 the goal is to repair the issue.
[21:40] <bekks> fulcan: Then upgrade to 12.04 at least. Forget about the kernel.
[21:40] <Ben64> and we've told you how, you just don't listen. and watch the language here
[21:41] <fulcan> bekks the drive isn't getting wiped clean and there is NO way of knowing if /var/ or ... has been modified for system processes. so mv /home no workie!
[21:42] <bekks> fulcan: It basically doesnt matter what you have to to to upgrade to 12.04 - unless you do, you dont get support.
[21:42] <fulcan> bekks if you don't want to talk to me, then just shut up!
[21:43] <bekks> fulcan: If you dont want to listen what people tell you, dont ask. Ignore set. Now, you are on your own.
[21:43] <Ben64> fulcan: you can just leave, what you want to do is not supported. you need to upgrade or you need to be the quiet one
[21:43] <fulcan> bekks no, your no listening.
[21:43] <fulcan> whiping the drive isn't a solution
[21:44] <skorasaurus2> hi, my unity search is not returning any results for me.
[21:48] <Kitt3n> fulcan, what do you need help with, exactly?
[21:48] <diverdude> is there any way to reset the root password
[21:48] <th0r> diverdude, since there is no root password, I doubt you can reset it
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> diverdude, Do you mean the user password?
[21:50] <Rallias> Erm... I just installed LUbuntu but it's refusing to install any bootloader EFI or MBR. What should I do?
[21:50] <psycho> root password is the password to the account that has root priv.
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> psycho, Not exactly.
[21:50] <Kitt3n> Rallias, are you on an EFI computer? And was the livecd booted in EFI mode?
[21:50] <marco> hello
[21:50] <t0k3> is it important to update from lm14 to lm15 (gnome)?
[21:50] <bekks> psycho: Thats wrong.
[21:51] <Guest78169> ok
[21:51] <Rallias> Kitt3n, It is an EFI computer, livecd booted grub not isolinux so I'm assuming it was EFI mode.
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> !uefi > Rallias
[21:51] <bekks> psycho: The root password is the password of the root user, if it was set. The user password is the password of the user, and it is the user password that has to be entered when using sudo.
[21:51] <Kitt3n> Rallias, when the livecd booted, did you get a grub display where you could choose what to run?
[21:51] <Guest78169> I have a problem with the ltsp ubuntu 12.04 any1 can help?
[21:52] <t0k3> is it important to update from lm14 to lm15 (gnome)? what are the BIG advantages?
[21:52] <t0k3> if any...
[21:52] <zryan> agora : thank you so match
[21:52] <Rallias> Kitt3n, Yes, that's what I meant by "livecd booted grub not isolinux"
[21:52] <xangua> !anyone | Guest78169
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, Here is more info and the ubuntu forums are your best help with uefi, especially with the threads author. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[21:52] <Kitt3n> Rallias, okay, what happens when you boot the computer?
[21:52] <xangua> t0k3: is your decicion if you want to upgrade ubuntu or not
[21:52] <Guest78169> ok then
[21:52] <Rallias> Kitt3n, It booted back to Windows 8.1 with no option to select.
[21:52] <psycho> msg bekks sorry, sometimes i get confused on this.  I'm switching back and fourth between an ubuntu laptop and a kali laptop.
[21:53] <pagios> how can i resolve this? :: http://justpaste.it/32i6  thanks.
[21:53] <diverdude> wilee-nilee, the password i have to enter when i do sudo
[21:53] <bekks> psycho: Its the same on kali.
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> diverdude, passwd if you know the one you have now.
[21:53] <psycho> msg bekks on kali i'm always logged in as root
[21:53] <Kitt3n> Rallias, not a Linux problem, the EFI bootloader is set to boot Windows before Grub
[21:53] <bekks> psycho: Which is the worst idea i've ever heard.
[21:53] <Guest78169>  I start the server and the client loads ok but  i cant reach any programe in the client , when i load it in the server it self it loads everything all right
[21:53] <Rallias> Kitt3n, I thought the installer was told to replace the efi bootloader with one for grub.
[21:54] <Rallias> s/told/intended/
[21:54] <bekks> psycho: And please dont try to message me, just omit the "msg" when talking in this channel. :)
[21:54] <fulcan> how old is maverick?
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> !1010
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> !10.10
[21:54] <Kitt3n> Rallias, yup, but if Windows is set in the EFI bootlist as first, then it'll boot Windows, go check the BIOS and see if the boot list is correct or not
[21:55] <diverdude> wilee-nilee, i forgot the current
[21:55] <Rallias> Kitt3n, There is no boot list visible... how would I access it?
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> diverdude, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[21:55] <sykopomp> Anyone know how I could debug wireless issues on ubuntu 13.04 running on a macbook pro? The wireless was working fine after manually installing the bcmwl package, but after installation, it's failing to connect to one of my routers (which worked before install)
[21:56] <Kitt3n> Rallias, so you can't access the bios at all?
[21:56] <sykopomp> Not really sure where to look for clues as to why it's acting like it's connecting, then suddenly disconnects.
[21:56] <Rallias> Kitt3n, I can, there's no thing labeled "boot list" or similar.
[21:56] <skorasaurus-alt> Rallias, you need to press F12 or F2 when you start your computer.
[21:56] <Rallias> There's a boot priorities menu, set to USB -> CD -> HDD -> EFI Network Boot, but no "boot list"
[21:56] <skorasaurus-alt> nevermind.
[21:57] <Guest78169> it is not normal that I cant load the client ltsp in edubuntu 12.04 it loads but it doesnt show the tools at the side nor the options at the upper side neither
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, Don't take others willingness to help here as valid help, many here help without realizing there own motives rather than having any care for the user.
[21:58] <Kitt3n> Rallias, I wish all EFI bios menus were the same -.- Hm, there should be a seperate EFI boot priority list (at least there is for me, which contains ubuntu, EFI shell, etc)
[21:59] <skorasaurus-alt> wilee-nilee, I don't know if that was directed to me, but I wasn't attempting any harm. I misread the post in context.
[21:59] <Rallias> Kitt3n, Let me reboot and look.
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus-alt, No just uefi issues are not a good here is all period.
[22:00] <Kitt3n> wilee-nilee, it depends on what kind of an issue it is :P
[22:00] <sykopomp> does anyone have any ideas on debugging wireless issues?
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> sykopomp, The channel works with you stating your issues, if you have provided enough and some knows they will most likely respond, the "Anyone" can cut you off from help.
[22:01] <loganvwhite> sykopomp,, I've fixed the wireless on a couple computers in th.e past, but without knowing your specific issue there's not much I can tell you
[22:03] <loganvwhite> speaking of issues I'm trying to use some qt apps, but qt is apparently broken on my computer. open the package manager to reinstall, and the package is broken. try and fix the package and I get " trying to overwrite shared '/etc/xdg/Trolltech.conf', which is different from other instances of package libqtcore4:amd64"
[22:03] <Rallias> Kitt3n, I looked, there's no UEFI shell in the bios or boot menu.
[22:03] <loganvwhite> so at this point I'm confused and have no idea what happened to qt. I never changed anything relating to it since installing.
[22:03] <sykopomp> wilee-nilee: I will work towards eliminating this troublesome word from my vocabulary. Maybe it will save me from having to read such useless, pointless, uninformed responses in the future.
[22:04] <sykopomp> loganvwhite: basically, as I explained a bit further above, the bcmwl wireless driver that I installed manually (as instructed in the link from the ubuntu wiki) worked fine when I was trying out ubuntu off a usb live disk.
[22:04] <loganvwhite> syko, you gave us literally no information.
[22:04] <loganvwhite> his response was not pointless
[22:05] <sykopomp> after installation, I installed the bcmwl driver the same way, but now it refuses to connect to the same router that was working before. A different router (that I can't just use on a regular basis) connects successfully, though.
[22:06] <sykopomp> now, the wireless card seems to mostly work -- it successfully scans for APs, finds them, and asks me for the WPA key as usual. It just keeps trying to connect  for several seconds, and then gives up and tells me I've been disconnected.
[22:07] <Rallias> sykopomp, Did you try removing the wireless access point's profile from network-manager?
[22:07] <sykopomp> this may not be entirely ubuntu's fault. It may be a timeout issue. I did notice that, on OSX, this particular router takes a good 30s or more to successfully complete a connection.
[22:07] <sykopomp> yes, I did, and readded it.
[22:07] <sykopomp> I also tried reinstalling the bcmwl driver, turning wifi on and off.
[22:07] <wheatthin> and is the wireless accesspoint on channel scanning itself?
[22:07] <sykopomp> wheatthin: I don't know what that means.
[22:08] <rcmaehl> HELP. Anything that should open with nautilus opens with baobab instead. Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit
[22:08] <sykopomp> the AP shows up from ubuntu's scans, though, yes.
[22:08] <wheatthin> well instead of using a dedicated channel, it tries to choose the best one
[22:09] <fulcan> if ubuntu doesn't support upgrading to the latestest release, what's this command for?  do-release-upgrade
[22:09] <sykopomp`> bleh, it seems to have successfully connected this time. Maybe I should blame this flaky router instead.
[22:09] <wheatthin> from LTS to LTS
[22:09] <sykopomp`> is there a way to check the wireless connect/disconnect logs for details, in case this continues?
[22:09] <wheatthin> fulcan, *
[22:10] <rcmaehl> sykopomp, is your card randomly disconnecting and not reconnecting to access points?
[22:10] <audist> Running 13.04 on a nvidia 650 Ti; it's not performing very well on mainstream games compared to my w7 install. Are the  nvidia drivers and compiz actually crappy or am I doing something wrong?
[22:10] <sykopomp`> rcmaehl: it seems to be mostly behaving fine.
[22:10] <sykopomp`> ...and now, it just seems to be connected successfully.
[22:11] <wheatthin> audist, from my experience compiz will make everything jittery
[22:11] <sykopomp`> I blame the "ask for advice, problem fixes itself" phenomenon. I'd spent a good half hour on this before jumping in here :\
[22:11] <sykopomp`> my apologies
[22:11] <rcmaehl> sykopomp, some broadcom cards are annoyingly buggy with ubuntu
[22:11] <AleXa> Google cant help me. How to turn USB drive into portable server?
[22:12] <wheatthin> AleXa, by installing ubuntu-server on the usb. lol
[22:12] <AleXa> There are some possibilities, to install Xampp, but it can only be done using Windows.
[22:12] <wheatthin> that's rubbish,
[22:13] <AleXa> wheatthin, I never saw that as a possibility
[22:13] <wheatthin> AleXa, when installing, as per usual, just choose your usb drive as the hard drive.
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> AleXa, something other option, a manual install, make sure grub is pointed at the usb's mbr
[22:15] <trism> rcmaehl: http://askubuntu.com/questions/288270/disk-usage-analyzer-replacing-nautilus
[22:16] <marco__> hola otra vez
[22:17] <marco__> alguien habla español?
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> !es
[22:17] <AleXa> whatthin, 639MB just for Server?
[22:17] <marco__> inglwes esta bien
[22:17] <wheatthin> that's just for the installation media.. it should use more than that
[22:18] <marco__> los clientes ltsp no se me cargan completos en edubuntu 12.04
[22:18] <wheatthin> !es | marco
[22:18] <marco__> my ltsp clients dont load completely
[22:19] <wheatthin> marco__, we need more information than that
[22:19] <marco__> it appear the wallpaper and a folder but not the bar at the side
[22:19] <marco__> I load it the default version of ltsp from the cd
[22:20] <AleXa> I only need one lightweight Wordpress on my 2GB USB drive.
[22:20] <AleXa> So, I need mysql, php and few other things
[22:20] <AleXa> but not an OS
[22:20] <marco__> and it works fine when i try to load in the server i can enter any user without problem but from a diffrent pc i can only reach to enter
[22:20] <wheatthin> !requirements
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> AleXa, You need a bigger usb.
[22:21] <wheatthin> AleXa, I'd suggest an 8gb usb or larger
[22:22] <AleXa> wilee-nilee, I decided to use 2GB Usb Drive for this mission (Wordpress site). I don't need portable drive which size's greater than 1GB.
[22:22] <wheatthin> AleXa, actually you do for a server
[22:22] <AleXa> 8GB is for private docs :D
[22:22] <marco__> the server is a pentium 4 3,4 with 2 gigs ram
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> AleXa, For a full install you might, but whatever.
[22:24] <wheatthin> AleXa, it wouldn't be a portable server without a full install on the usb, sorry
[22:24] <AleXa> You could've just told me, Ubuntu has maid a deal with Google, so no other result is shown than Ubuntu Server. It ain't possible that there are many options to do what I'm asking from stupid Windows, but not from Linux. :(
[22:25] <wheatthin> AleXa, there's no such deal. but believe what you will
[22:27] <holstein> AleXa: you might like http://www.turnkeylinux.org/wordpress ..they are based on ubuntu, and easy to setup.. run live or whatever
[22:28] <AleXa> I'll check it
[22:29] <wheatthin> or just get a wordpress account lol.. either way, you won't get a full portable server on a 2gb usb drive
[22:31] <AleXa> wheatthin, are you familiar with what Xampp offers?
[22:32] <wheatthin> yup
[22:32] <Pici> ugh. xampp is horrible. Use a lamp stack that can actually get updates.
[22:32] <AleXa> wiki says:   free and open source cross-platform web server solution stack package, consisting mainly of the Apache HTTP Server, MySQL database, and interpreters for scripts written in the PHP and Perl programming languages.
[22:32] <captain_hook_> How can I stop a package from running dpkg configure when ever I run apt-get or anything aptitude.
[22:33] <wheatthin> yes, nowhere does it say fully portable
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> captain_hook_, You want it pinned?
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> or locked
[22:33] <Anniepoo> I'm getting loopback from mic to phones. I'm using alsa drivers. anybody know how to disable it?
[22:34] <wheatthin> Anniepoo, move your mic away from speakers
[22:34] <Anniepoo> snd-aloop is installed...
[22:34] <Anniepoo> headphones and mic
[22:34] <captain_hook_> @wilee-nilee I want to make aptitude think it already finished the configure, which it did. But, everything I install new software it tries to run the configure again.
[22:34] <wheatthin> turn down the sensitivity on the mic
[22:35] <wilee-nilee> ah not sure
[22:35] <Anniepoo> yah, I've done the obvious.
[22:37] <captain_hook_> wilee-nilee: The package causing the issue was percona-server
[22:37] <Anniepoo> this is a dual boot machine, it's not having trouble on windows, recording levels are reasonable
[22:37] <mastershake> hello world .. is there any good documentation on installing ubuntu to dual boot a macbook pro?
[22:38] <captain_hook_> wilee-nilee: The package installed successfully but for some reason aptitude thinks it needs to run the configure again?
[22:38] <holstein> !dualboot | mastershake
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> captain_hook_, I would not have a clue in a lifetime. ;)
[22:39] <mastershake> thank you ubottu .
[22:40] <Anniepoo> I'm not getting *audio* feedback, coupled by sound, I'm getting digital loopback
[22:41] <Quen> Hey, can anyone experienced in such issues tell me whether or not it's possible to use a tty file to tell Ubuntu to give me a full board of graphical VTs on boot? I've heard of people doing that with Redhat before, but I'm not sure if I can do that with Ubuntu.
[22:41] <wheatthin> Quen, are you talking about framebuffer?
[22:42] <Quen> The VTs on f[7-12], where graphical login managers go on a normal boot.
[22:42] <wheatthin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[22:42] <yva> Hi, is there a way  to get nautilus to sort files by real filetype (i.e. distinguish between txt, py, or R files)?
[22:42] <bekks> Quen: Most likely those were just more instances of running X servers.
[22:44] <carnicellamauroa> HELLO
[22:44] <carnicellamauroa> hola
[22:45] <carnicellamauroa> ital venezolano
[22:45] <wheatthin> !ask | carnicellamauroa
[22:45] <karen_> O.K. guys, I went to Software and downloaded Disk Utility and ran a test. Someone on Xubuntu channel suggested this, because I've had trouble with turning on my computer, long waits, and a black screen that says, "press any key to continue...". I have three things in the red on the test in Disk Utility:  end to end error,  no description for attribute 184, airflow temp, and current pending sector count. Does anyone know what to do here?
[22:45] <MonkeyDust> !it
[22:46] <wheatthin> karen_, sounds like you need to clean out the pc
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> karen_, Your computer is circa 2006 how old is that HD?
[22:46] <karen_> what do you mean? My computer is maybe 7 years old.
[22:47] <karen_> what do you mean clean out the pc?
[22:47] <wheatthin> hard drives and processors getting warm
[22:47] <holstein> karen_: you can try spraying out the dust.. but, it sounds like you have a bad hard drive
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> karen_, I suspect your issues are hardware based you might try ##hardware
[22:47] <holstein> if it were my rig, i would remove the hard drive, and test with a live CD.. test the memory, and other hardware, then move on to the hard drive
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> +1
[22:48] <Anniepoo> thanks folks...
[22:48] <karen_> oh  bad hard drive     What do you mean try ## hardware?
[22:48] <Quen> wheatthin: That link didn't much help me, I'm not having issues with blackscreens, it's just outright not giving me VTs on f[8-12]; unless I'm not completely up to date on what a framebuffer is. I have f[1-6] like normal, it's the ones graphical sessions go in that I'm not getting like I should.
[22:48] <holstein> if the rig boot and runs a live CD as expected with no hard drive, then, you can direct your attention at the hard drive
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> karen_, think about it. ;)
[22:48] <rcmaehl> Can someone give me a copy of their defaults.list for Ubuntu 13.04?
[22:49] <wheatthin> no, you shouldn't get a graphical layout quen, not by default.
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> rcmaehl, default installs source list what?
[22:49] <wheatthin> vt7 only
[22:49] <rcmaehl> wilee-nilee: ~/.local/share/applications/default.list
[22:49] <Quen> See, I want vts 8-12 available, is there no way to get those on ubuntu?
[22:49] <maum> hey guys
[22:49] <maum> please some help
[22:50] <maum> my printer pixma canon mp230 is not recognized by ubuntu
[22:50] <maum> i can't print or scan
[22:50] <holstein> Quen: have you tried the same method you used in fedora?
[22:50] <maum> what can i do?
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> !enter > maum
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> rcmaehl, I'm far from stock.
[22:50] <rcmaehl> darn
[22:50] <Quen> I've never used fedora, and I didn't want to try that method for fear of breaking something; which seems to be a whole lot easier than it should be.
[22:50] <karen_> Is there somewhere one can fix those errors? just hoppin' it's not hardware.
[22:50] <maum> ubuntu do not recognize my printer
[22:51] <wilee-nilee> maum, http://askubuntu.com/questions/224067/canon-pixia-mp-230
[22:52] <maum> wait i can see the printer in localhost but it does not print or scan when i press such buttons
[22:53] <holstein> maum: there is a GUI for adding printers.. what operating system are you using? ubuntu 13.04?
[22:54] <zryan> how to fix the error? (Failed to fetch
[22:54] <zryan> Fetching the upgrade failed. There may be a network problem. )
[22:54] <holstein> zryan: have you checked your network?
[22:54] <maum> ubuntu 12.04 lts
[22:54] <holstein> maum: have you checked the GUI? have you referred to the link wilee-nilee gave?
[22:55] <zryan> holstein Update manager Setting?
[22:55] <maum> im reading that url now, i am not sure what gui is
[22:55] <holstein> zryan: your network.. the error states that there might be a network problem, so i would start there
[22:56] <holstein> zryan: i would just try again. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" assuming updating the system is what you are doing
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> maum, guided user interface, a graphic display.
[22:56] <funky> hey hey
[22:57] <maum> is the an apt command for this driver ?
[22:57] <funky> I am  installing ssl from globessl, I got two files .crt and bundle, its asking for pem file
[22:57] <funky> I got ssl  private key file as text. how do I make pem from it?
[22:58] <wheatthin> funky, is that from ubuntu repos?
[22:58] <funky> wheatthin:  what is from ubuntu repos? I do usse ubuntu and open ssl
[22:58] <funky> from repos
[22:58] <bekks> wheatthin: openssl is in the ubuntu repos.
[22:58] <funky> and nginx
[22:58] <wheatthin> no kidding.
[22:58] <trism> rcmaehl: if you mean mimeapps.list, the one in ~/.local/share/applications isn't there at all by default, so if you want to reset them back to default, just delete it, it will be recreated when somebody modifies the settings
[22:59] <williamtdr> Hello!
[22:59] <maum> im installing gimp in case it helps
[22:59] <styles> Anyone know how to convert an SFS (Microsoft Dynamic Filesystem) to something Ubuntu can read? I don't have a windows installation running to do it.
[22:59] <bekks> styles: Copy the files using a network share.
[22:59] <funky> i generated private key on the globe ssl server, so I sense I have to convert it to pem somehow since ngix gives error saying it cant locale .pem file
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> !tar } maum
[22:59] <bekks> styles: And without windows, you are lost.
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> !tar | maum
[22:59] <styles> bekks, no running windows installations
[22:59] <styles> they are dual internal drives
[22:59] <funky> bekks any idea how to do it?
[23:00] <bekks> styles: You need a windows.
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> ubottu, Heh don't worry. ;)
[23:00] <styles> bekks, god dammit. I though so.
[23:00] <styles> Thank you
[23:00] <bekks> funky: I'm sorry, it has been years ago since I dealt with certs for the last time.
[23:00] <funky> beeks oki :)
[23:01] <williamtdr> Scripting/xterm/cron question: I set up, on Ubuntu server 12.04 the following in the root crontab: @reboot /home/lbuser/start.sh and @daily reboot. In the start.sh I put vncserver :1 among a few other commands. However, the vnc server does not start. If I run it manually via ssh after the system reboots it works dine, but why not with cron?
[23:01] <williamtdr> Help appreciated.
 thanks for help me
[23:01] <bekks> williamtdr: You have to use the full path for vncserver.
[23:01] <williamtdr> bekks: in the script, not in the crontab?
[23:02] <bekks> williamtdr: Both.
[23:02] <williamtdr> bekks: and, if so how do I determine it?
[23:02] <holstein> zryan: anytime
[23:02] <bekks> williamtdr: "which vncserver"
[23:02] <williamtdr> tightvnc.
[23:02] <zipy> hey, i always have to activate lvm after reboot with vgchange -a y, how can i change that
[23:02] <jrib> williamtdr: heh, that's a command.
[23:02] <holstein> maum: gimp has nothing to do with your printer
[23:02] <bekks> williamtdr: "which vncserver" is the command to find out the full path.
[23:02] <williamtdr> Thank you.
[23:02] <williamtdr> :/
[23:03] <funky> here is error message http://pastie.org/8132892
[23:03] <williamtdr> Do I have to do the same for the reboot command?
[23:03] <williamtdr> @daily reboot
[23:04] <Bayangan> shutdown -r now
[23:04] <zryan> i 'am change evry things in (Panel Settings) how to default (Panel Setting)?? in lubuntu.
[23:05] <williamtdr> thanks! trying it now.
[23:06] <maum> downloading gnome desktop
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> zryan, You might try #lubuntu as well, it is a rather hands on OS.
[23:06] <zryan> yeas
[23:07] <williamtdr> Did not work.
[23:07] <funky> :)
[23:07] <williamtdr> VNC server did not start.
[23:08] <zryan> how to default settings (Panel Settings) in lubuntu
[23:08] <holstein> zryan: you can remove the panel config in your /home.. maybe ~/.config/lxpanel or something like that
[23:09] <agora> how different is lubuntu from ubuntu? shouldn't everything be the same outside of the desktop environment?
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> zryan, take a look here at your own risk. http://askubuntu.com/questions/64631/how-to-restore-the-default-lubuntu-panel
[23:09] <holstein> !lubuntu | agora
[23:09] <williamtdr> when does the @reboot execute in the boot order?
[23:09] <holstein> replace GNOME with unity
[23:09] <agora> holstein so yes?
[23:10] <th0r> agora, yes, outside of the desktop the workings are the same
[23:10] <holstein> agora: the repos are the same.. the access to the same software is the same.. the installed softare and default configs can be quite differnt.. they are all ubuntu
[23:10] <dgarstang> Anyone here got any info on how to build a custom Ubuntu image for Google Compute?
[23:11] <agora> th0r and hostein you guys just gave me contradicting answers ^_^
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> agora, Honestly I'm surprised you can tell. ;)
[23:11] <holstein> agora: check for yourself.. we are volunteers.. *all* the informatino is open and available to everyone
[23:12] <holstein> agora: lubuntu *is* ubuntull with lxde fo the desktop manager... they look and feel different. lubuntu is an official ubuntu derivitive that you can try live
[23:12] <agora> wilee-nilee ouch, that hurts.
 and <wilee-nilee> thanks
[23:13] <agora> holstein i know, I was just asking folks who might have had experience
[23:13] <holstein> i personally dont read anything contradictory
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[23:13] <zryan> i fixed
[23:13] <holstein> agora: i *do* have experience
[23:13] <holstein> agora: those are the facts, friend.. the same repos.. different desktop environments.. different default settings
[23:13] <jrib> agora: I don't see how their answers are contradictory
 agora, yes, outside of the desktop the workings are the same
   the installed softare and default configs can be quite differnt.. they are all ubuntu
[23:14] <holstein> agora: correct.. the installed software which is outside the desktop can be similar..
[23:15] <holstein> agora: whast the question, friend? i assure you, no one is trying to give you misinformation.. i gave you the links to see for yourself
[23:15] <holstein> agora: the "workings" to me, is the repository access... that i said was the same, as well
[23:15] <agora> ah ok
[23:15] <agora> cool
[23:15] <jrib> agora: maybe a third phrasing will help: lubuntu and ubuntu differ only in what packages are installed by default but the same packages are available to both (i.e. same repositories)
[23:16] <agora> jrib gotcha
[23:16] <agora> ty all
[23:16] <th0r> agora, the 'workings' to me is the operating system. Drop out of the desktop and you will find the terminal commands are the same, the /etc configs are the same, etc
[23:17] <agora> wilee-nilee and I guess your comment was deserved :P
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> agora, Sorry about that not a nice one. ;)
[23:18] <agora> wilee-nilee what previous things have I done that made you think that? or was it merely the fact that I was asking the difference between lubuntu and ubuntu
[23:18] <Rallias> Ok... so I'm now on LUbuntu after installing it for MBR boot. How would I go about getting my skype conversation out of the top-left corner?
[23:20] <th0r> Rallias, if lxde is anything like xfce the skype icon is inside the Notification Area. You would have to move that area and whatever icons are inside it. (If lxde is similar to xfce)
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> agora, Just your basic syntax in describing stuff, however it takes a while to kow the correct words for a clear description, this community needs exacting info to cut through and find answers mainly.
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> know*
[23:21] <agora> wilee-nilee like what? I don't think I've been helped with a technical question since I was running 12.04 in wubi
[23:21] <Rallias> th0r, For the chat window being in the top left of the screen?
[23:21] <th0r> Rallias, the chat window or the skype icon?
[23:21] <Rallias> The chat window.
[23:22] <th0r> Rallias, you should be able to grab it at the title bar and move it.
[23:22] <Rallias> The notifications icon is just fine where it is.
[23:22] <th0r> Rallias, I think holding the
[23:22] <Rallias> th0r, The title bar is off the screen.
[23:22] <fulcan> I am trying to upgrade from maverick to the latest release via do-release-upgrade and it gets up to the grub upgrade and defaults to [ ] /dev/sda1 (81604 MB; ???). but fdisk -l /dev/sda1 gives  ->    http://bpaste.net/show/CK6o43Ie7Iqg5hTlKpdV/   no valid partition?
[23:22] <th0r> Rallias, I think holding the Alt key you can grab any part of it to move it
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> agora, Honestly my opinion is a projected state it is not worth a grain of salt. ;)
[23:22] <Rallias> oh, thanks.
[23:23] <Rallias> Also, how do I disable the anti-aliasing of the fonts in the title bar?
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> except in my own reality
[23:24] <agora> wilee-nilee haha ok, I'm actually not a complete noob, I did write this for what it's worth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/CanonPrinters/CanonPixmaIP1700
[23:25] <ubuntufanguy> hi everyone
[23:26] <agora> hi
[23:28] <ubuntufanguy> hi I am new to using ubuntu.
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> ubuntufanguy, You need support?
[23:29] <ubuntufanguy> I am wondering which web browser do you suggest chromium or firefox?
[23:29] <mahabal> i use the normal google chrome
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> !poll | ubuntufanguy
[23:29] <ubuntufanguy> umm okay sorry..
[23:29] <agora> ubuntufanguy i use both :)
[23:30] <agora> ubottu is harsh
[23:30] <mahabal> scared him away
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> ubuntufanguy, Since you new take a look at the channels guidelines, just a nudge. ;)
[23:30] <agora> ya..
[23:30] <agora> :(
[23:30] <mahabal> now he's switching back to wnindows :(
[23:30] <agora> wilee-nilee he left..
[23:30] <agora> wilee-nilee you scared him with ubottu
[23:30] <litepool> i removed apparmor but it hink its still running
[23:31] <agora> lol > <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is harsh
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> oh well the nick was a tell
[23:31] <agora> wilee-nilee how so?
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> fanboy=fanboi
[23:31] <agora> fanguy?
[23:31] <maum> how do i oopen an rpm?!
[23:31] <agora> and is ubuntufanboi a spammer or something
[23:31] <agora> maum alien
[23:32] <agora> maum alien lets you convert from rpm to deb
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> we all go fanboi to begin with to finely resolve to they are all OS"s with the good, bad and the ugly
[23:32] <agora> maum: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto
[23:32] <agora> wilee-nilee sorry, what?
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> agora, I'm really off topic here, in other words dichotomies does not solve problems, it is the realization of the areas between that critical thinking gives.
[23:34] <agora> wilee-nilee but what does that have to do with his username
[23:34]  * agora is confused
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> agora, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fanboi  A one sided drive.
[23:35] <doomlord_> gedit: is it possible to change the font of the bottom output pane (external tools output)
[23:36] <agora> wilee-nilee oh so you are opposed to being a fanboy of something?
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> agora, Look up confirmation bias.
[23:37] <agora> wilee-nilee I see
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> agora, I am opposed to those that can' hold two differing opinions equal.
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> however I fall into that trap daily myself.
[23:38] <maum> i try to install with the direction through alien an rpm but it says 'not found
[23:38] <agora> wilee-nilee can you hold the opposing opinion to that opinion equal with your own? :P paradoxx
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> on a good day maybe
[23:38] <agora> maum it says what is not found? alien? did you install it??
[23:38] <agora> whoops sorry didn't mean for multiple ?s
[23:39] <agora> wilee-nilee anywho, it's just a username
[23:40] <captain_hook_> how does one disable a package from being configured that aptitude thinks is installed wrong but really isn't. Every time I run aptitude it tries to reconfigure this single package that has already been configured.
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> agora, Why yes it is, if you take any statement as a truism, life can be difficult, IT WAS A JOKE.
[23:41] <maum>  sudo alien /home/maui/Desktop/cnijfilter-mp230series-3.80-1-rpm/packages
[23:41] <vadimkolchev> hi all. how can I create windows 8 bootable installation usb stick from ubuntu?
[23:41]  * wilee-nilee loves hierarchies
[23:41] <maum> this is what i put
[23:41] <maum> yes i have alien installed
[23:41] <maum> trying to convert to db
[23:42] <maum> struggling here to install canon printer driver to ubuntu 12.04
[23:42] <agora> wilee-nilee woah woah woah sorryyy, that's my bad.  I honestly couldn't tell over IRC
[23:43] <agora> maum you cannot use alien on a directory of rpms, you need to use a file ending in .rpm
[23:43] <agora> maum what printer btw?
[23:44] <agora> maum you could say /home/maui/Desktop/cnijfilter-mp230series-3.80-1-rpm/packages/*.rpm
[23:44] <agora> i believe
[23:44] <agora> maum and never mind how did I miss the printer name
[23:45] <maum> after packages it has no more
[23:45] <maum> the fil name ends at rpm of course but the 'path' ends at packages
[23:46] <agora> maum ?? are there rpm files in the packages directory?
[23:47] <maum> on my desktop i have rpm files for my canon
[23:47] <maum> drivers arent they?
[23:48] <maum>  sudo alien cnijfilter-common-3.80-1.i386.rpm (also failed)
[23:48] <agora> maum if the rpm files are on your desktop you need to change directories
[23:48] <agora> maum: cd Desktop
[23:49] <maum> oh in the terminal you mean
[23:49] <agora> maum ya
[23:50] <maum> it does not work
[23:51] <maum> i also tried with the full directory home/maui/desktop
[23:51] <agora> what did you do
[23:51] <agora> so you did sudo alien home/maui/desktop/cnijfilter-common-3.80-1.i386.rpm
[23:51] <agora> and then what did it output?
[23:51] <th0r> maum, it is Desktop...upper case.
[23:52] <nathanbz> hey i'm running 12.04 lts server and I have a process find thats constantly running consuming cpu
[23:52] <nathanbz> what is it :)
[23:52] <th0r> nathanbz, 'top' in a terminal
[23:52] <maum> i can't change into desktop
[23:53] <nathanbz> yeah thats what im looking at
[23:53] <maum> or Desktop
[23:53] <agora> maum what directory are you currently in?
[23:53] <nathanbz> root is running it
[23:53] <maum> maui@maui-EasyNote-LV11HC:~$
[23:53] <agora> nathanbz if you like user interfaces you can also use system monitor :P
[23:53] <agora> maum type cd Desktop and paste the result here
[23:53] <th0r> nathanbz, the PID....use 'ps ax | grep <PID>'
[23:54] <captain_hook_> Anyone know where the dpkg configure file is?
[23:55] <agora> /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg   i think?
[23:55] <agora> captain_hook_ ^
[23:55] <captain_hook_> Thanks
[23:55] <agora> no problem
[23:55] <maum> changed into Desktop indeed, but then when i tried (home/maui/desktop.....6.rpm)  it asked for password, then after i put the password it said 'file not found'
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> captain_hook_, Try running sudo apt-get autoremove ; sudo apt-get autoclean  and see if this still reoccurs
[23:56] <agora> maum just do sudo alien {file name}
[23:56] <agora> maum no directory
[23:56] <agora> maum just sudo alien cnijfilter-common-3.80-1.i386.rpm
[23:56] <th0r> maum, again.....Desktop...uppercase
[23:57] <maum> ok
[23:57] <captain_hook_> How well does alien really work?
[23:57] <nathanbz> th0r what would i do with the pid
[23:57] <agora> captain_hook_ i've had it work for print drivers.
[23:57] <nathanbz> it looks like some system process
[23:57] <nathanbz> it runs for abit then stops for abit
[23:57] <captain_hook_> Cool
[23:57] <th0r> nathanbz, the ps ax command should tell you what is running as that PID
[23:58] <k1l> is there reeally a need for rpm in this case?
[23:59] <agora> k1l lots of canon linux drivers are only available as rpms