=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [01:03] nik90: thanks for the email, this will certainly help folks tomorrow === _salem` is now known as _salem [06:42] good morning === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [08:10] is there any command to exit from the application on user click? [08:12] what is the package to install to get the new ubuntu SDK stuff and Qt Designer? [08:12] AlanBell: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/ [08:13] hmm, I thought it had landed in the 13.10 repos yesterday or something? [08:15] the thing this article is about http://iloveubuntu.net/qt-creator-271-renamed-ubuntu-sdk-available-ubuntu-1310-numerous-new-features [08:16] qt creator is different to Qt designer it seems, maybe that is where I was going wrong [08:17] now it is working or not? [08:17] I think there is some other package that installs plugins to QtCreator for Ubuntu development [08:19] apparently it is findable in software centre, but that takes ages to start and crashes as soon as it does start [08:21] u are running ubuntu sdk and now it is crashing [08:22] AlanBell, the way we recommend to install the SDK is with http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/ - if there is another way that doesn't work, would you mind reporting it against https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit ? [08:22] tried this command?? sudo add-apt-repository ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper && sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk [08:23] no, software centre crashes, not the sdk [08:23] ah, I see [08:23] then in that case, the bug is in SC :) [08:24] so what landed in 13.10? [08:24] AlanBell, Qt Designer is not a standalone app: there is only Qt Creator and Qt Creator with Ubuntu plugins. Both contain the Qt Designer as a tab (i.e. as part of Qt Creator) [08:24] perhaps you've got an old Qt Designer package from Qt 4? [08:25] AlanBell, what landed on 13.10 archive and on the 13.04 & older PPAs was a change to be able to: invoke Qt Creator with the Ubuntu plugins by typing "ubuntu sdk" on the dash or invoke vanilla Qt Creator by typing "qt creator" on the Dash [08:26] probably, yeah, it was qt4-designer I was looking at [08:26] typing "ubuntu sdk" on the dash tries to sell me books about hacking the Kinect [08:29] do I need that ppa on 13.10 still? [08:30] AlanBell, that works fine for me, but I'm using the PPAs I've just been pointed at bug 1198084, which might be relevant here. [08:30] Launchpad bug 1198084 in qtcreator-ubuntu "Unity Dash doesn't recognize Ubuntu SDK as an installable app" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1198084 [08:31] ah, ubuntu-sdk is the package, which isn't installable at the moment it seems [08:32] AlanBell, we're in the process of updating the SDK installation instructions to recommend just the ubuntu-sdk package from the archive in saucy (i.e. no PPAs). So it could come in quite handy if you try to basically forget about the PPA and report back if you've got any glitches [08:35] dpm: In the http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/, you should remove the wording "Development release" since 13.10 does not require any ppa to get the latest sdk or qt packages [08:35] yeah, I think I still have some ppa cruft from before my upgrade, libqt5v8-5 is 5.0.2-3ubuntu1~raring1~test1 [08:35] dpm: updated packages land in the archive directly. This will also be the case when we transistion to 14.04 later [08:36] Good morning all, happy Friday and happy Cow Appreciation Day! (With a shout out to Embrace Your Geekness Day tomorrow) :-D [08:36] AlanBell: that's right. I had similar issues as well. [08:36] as the archive packages are not a higher version than the raring ppa I need to downgrade those things [08:36] oh btw morning all :-) [08:36] hi nik90, good morning! :-) that's what we're trying to do, but some steps need to be done to ensure the transition is smooth. Not all packages land as part of daily releases yet (e.g. Qt Creator) -> http://pad.ubuntu.com/GjiQAlduX5 [08:36] which collapses quite a big dependency tree, so I might leave that until later [08:38] dpm: kaleo asked me to remove all the ppa which I did. [08:39] nik90, ah, you're the perfect testing candidate, then :) Did you run into any issues or glitches? [08:40] dpm: I removed the ppa only 2 days ago. For now I do not see any issues. However I wouldnt know myself since I do not what the latest version of these packages are in the ppa and if I received as normal updates. [08:43] nik90: is there any command to exit from the application on user choice ex i will create a button of exit [08:44] kaleo, seb128: There is no default browser setting in System Settings. It hadn't occurred to me that we'd have more than one. :-) [08:45] dpm: is there any command to exit from the application on user choice ex i will create a button of exit [08:46] mpt, hey, we will probably not have > 1 at the start, but no other OS is getting away with that ... ;-) [08:46] Aviral: currentyly none of the applications have an exit button [08:46] Aviral: you have to use HUD to quit the application [08:47] nik90: ya thats why i am asking [08:47] mpt, do you have any input on bug 1198084 ? I'm not sure if it's related to SC/aptdaemon or rather to the applications scope [08:47] Launchpad bug 1198084 in qtcreator-ubuntu "Unity Dash doesn't recognize Ubuntu SDK as an installable app" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1198084 [08:47] This cannot be done localised to the clock app. It is something which will be common to all applications and hence should automatically come from the sdk [08:47] or rather *shouldnt* be done localised in the clock app. [08:47] oh so there is no need to implement the exit option? [08:48] dpm, no, no idea sorry. [08:48] no worries. Saviq, would you have a clue on that bug? ^^ [08:49] Aviral, no need to for now, that's correct. You can close the apps on the app scope by long-pressing on them already [08:49] actually i am working on simple animal farm app and it shows a blank action bar so is there any way that it dosent appear even when the user scroll down to up [08:49] dpm: thanks :) [08:50] dpm, not sure, but I'd expect the software center parses for .desktop files and such [08:50] dpm, but I don't have experience with it either [08:50] Aviral, there is already an animal farm app, perhaps you want to join forces with Robert Ancell? -> https://plus.google.com/106527694663794732344/posts/LuFPbQXN8dT [08:50] Aviral: if you have no toolbar options, then the toolbar should not popup when you swipe from bottom to top [08:50] ya i knw i am working on that only :) [08:50] the toolbar should in essence be disabled [08:51] there is no toolbar option it is still showing pop up [08:52] Saviq, yeah, we have a .desktop file for that already. No worries, I'll try to find out more. mpt, one last question: do you know who the best person to ask about that bug on the Software Center side be? [08:52] you might want to report a bug against the sdk regarding this then [08:54] need to asign a bug for SDK?? [08:55] yes [09:10] not be written in the urlentry of an application made in glade, how to enable? I'm doing the tutorial Jono Bacon (Ubuntu Creating Your First App) | http://askubuntu.com/q/319175 [10:27] dpm: There is another bug regarding the translation string being too long in a toolbar. [10:27] dpm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1199699 [10:27] Ubuntu bug 1199699 in Ubuntu Clock App "German translation in the menu needs more space" [Medium,Confirmed] [10:28] not really sure what can be done here. Should this be fixed by the sdk where the toolbar move to accomodate large strings? === TobyK is now known as TobyZA [10:30] * AlanBell has the ubuntu sdk installed from the 13.10 repos now dpm [10:31] http://code.google.com/p/apt-downgrade/source/browse/apt-downgrade.py is a very useful script [10:43] thanks for the heads up nik90, will look at it now [10:43] nik90, I agree that this should probably be fixed in the SDK [10:44] * nik90 files a bug report in the sdk [10:46] nik90, I added a bug task for it already, you can reuse the existing bug report [10:46] perhaps just replacing the current description, which is a bit short [10:46] AlanBell, cool, let us know if you run into any issues [10:46] dpm: yes I was adding the affects ubuntu-ui-toolkit package to the existing bug report. [10:47] But I just noticed that it has been added by you [10:47] yeah, did that [10:47] :) [10:47] dpm: does this make the bug invalid for clock and weather since it an upstream issue? [10:48] nik90, probably, but I'd leave it for now, even if it's just to track what happens upstream. [10:48] but it's up to you [10:49] dpm: ah ok..will leave it then [10:57] nik90: about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1197436, do I have to use AdminName only in USA? Because here in Italy we have them, but are useless [10:57] Ubuntu bug 1197436 in Ubuntu Clock App "Add City needs to show states in US" [Medium,Triaged] [11:00] nik90: nevermind [11:00] WebbyIT: on talking to the design team, they requested that the state names be added to all cities [11:01] WebbyIT: since these duplicate city names occur in different parts of the world and it is difficult to know which place they are located in. [11:01] nik90: ah, ok [11:02] WebbyIT: make sure you assign the bug to you change status to inProgress if you work on it. Will let other people know about it. [11:03] nik90: yeah, I assigned it to me [11:04] WebbyIT: awesome :D [11:04] nik90: and here the MR :) https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-clock-app/1197436/+merge/174380 [11:07] WebbyIT: testing your fix now :) [11:07] nik90: maybe I can delete fontSize: "large" [11:08] WebbyIT: Those were given by design. So if you find them big, I suggest you file a bug report instead and I will take it up with the design team. [11:09] nik90: ok, I'm reporting it [11:16] WebbyIT: Approved! [11:16] nik90: thanks :) [11:19] kaleo timp: Does the listview.Base or Standard provide any form of text wrap? [11:23] WebbyIT: Technically we can text wrap the results, however I do agree they look a bit too big for my liking [11:23] nik90: Base doesn't have text in it [11:23] timp: I added a Label to the base. [11:23] nice work WebbyIT ;) [11:24] nik90: Label supports text wrapping, it is a subclass of Text. But I do not think it is recommended to put multi-line text in it [11:24] timp: I was not able to use ListItem.Standard since it does not allow me to change the text size. So I used ListItem.Base to add a label to it. [11:24] nik90: I've no phone, but on computer is definitely too big for my taste [11:24] dpm: thanks :) [11:24] nik90: I'm not sure what you want to accomplish exactly. Do you have a visual design of what you want? [11:24] nik90: yes for custom list items that may be what you need. [11:24] timp: yes, let me share it. 1 second [11:25] nik90: but on the other hand, if you can use Standard that is better because it is consistent among apps [11:25] nik90: and if the default we use there is wrong for all apps we should change it in the UITK [11:25] timp: http://ubuntuone.com/35fEbdT2KpA0bE0fc4C69b [11:26] timp: I am not sure if the fonts we received from design apply to all the other apps. If they do, then yes it should be UITK. I wil have to confirm that with the design team next week then. [11:27] nik90: please do, and report it as a bug in UITK if it needs to be changed [11:28] I don't think we ever got final specs for what a list item should look like [11:29] timp: will do. [11:29] so what we have now is just our own interpretation from a design wireframe, until we get the visual designs [11:29] nik90: thanks === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:41] nik90, no need to wait to next week, let me see if someone from design can join us here [11:42] dpm: I just now talked to mehow from the design team [11:42] excellent [11:42] we should get everyone on this channel, though [11:43] yeah I have asked him to come to this channel [11:43] I am here [11:43] hey [11:43] everybody this is Michal from the design team [11:44] so mehow, you want to implement it like " City name (large font size), state and country name (smaller font size)" [11:44] perfect, hi mehow, hi ckpringle :) [11:45] YEs this is something that came to my mind as a simple solution [11:45] hi ckpringle [11:45] nik90: hey dude how are you? [11:45] ckpringle: great. Today we are having the clock app hack fest! :) [11:45] But I guess it will be easier to give you more info on monday after I spend some time playing with it [11:45] nik90: woohoo! [11:46] mehow: okay that should be fine. [11:46] thnx [11:46] ckpringle: is most the design work now on the sdk itself? I dont see you much on the core app design meeting anymore [11:47] I meant "are you working on the sdk itself?" [11:47] nik90: yeah I've been trying to focus on getting the SDK up to date with the latest, there's a lot of things that need to be updated in it and designed! [11:47] nik90: kaleo pinged me a pic of the clock with the gradient background yesterday, exciting! [11:47] ckpringle: those new sdk animations for checkboxes look splendid :-) [11:48] nik90: :) [11:48] ckpringle: yup, the background gradient support is landing end of the day. I will implement it in the weekend [11:48] or perhaps even leave it to the new hack fest enthusiats [11:50] How to develop for ubuntu using c++ | http://askubuntu.com/q/319256 === nik90 is now known as nik90|Lunch [12:11] anything happening here? [12:11] hi sarobat === nik90|Lunch is now known as nik90 [12:12] the clock app hack fest is going on [12:12] hi [12:12] feel free to jump on any bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bugs?field.tag=hackday [12:12] They are easy to fix bugs [12:13] thank you === nik90 is now known as nik90|Lunch [12:16] Going for lunch..brb in 25-30 minutes [12:31] nik90|Lunch, enjoy! === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:49] nik90|Lunch: out of interest what release of ubuntu do you develop on? === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:53] balloons: whats the rationale for us not having autopilot latest in precise in the autopilot ppa? [12:54] QML Page: Binding loop detected for property "flickable" | http://askubuntu.com/q/319277 === nik90|Lunch is now known as nik90 [12:56] popey: I develop on 13.10. Previously I used 12.04, however due to autopilot qt not being backported to 12.04, I had to upgrade. [12:57] nik90: thanks, this worries me [13:01] popey: yes. I actually got an email from a contributor wanted to test core apps, however he couldn't even install certain core apps like calendar or weather I think because he was running 12.04 [13:01] That's a real shame. [13:12] nik90, you won't need to set the theme manually anymore to have the gradient working [13:12] kaleo: ok [13:12] kaleo: I have been replacing my colors also with Theme.palette stuff [13:14] oSoMoN: about MR of yesterday, I don't understand why Jenkins wants a new review [13:14] https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calendar-app/1193090/+merge/170957 [13:14] WebbyIT: let me check [13:15] nik90, and it will be in lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit (trunk) in 30 mintues [13:15] minutes* [13:15] kaleo: great job :) [13:15] kaleo: but it will land only as an update once jenkins releases a new UITK update? [13:15] WebbyIT, thx [13:16] nik90, you mean land in the touch image? [13:16] kaleo: no I mean as an update to saucy desktop through the update manager [13:16] nik90, right, it could take a while [13:16] nik90, today very probably [13:16] nik90, worst case, tomorrow [13:17] WebbyIT: it looks like it failed for no good reason (sometimes jenkins is a bit flaky), I re-approved it, let’s see if it lands correctly this time [13:17] kaleo: thnx for all this. the theming infrastructure is so much better now [13:17] nik90, but packages are available in the MR already [13:17] nik90, yw :) [13:17] oSoMoN: ok, thanks :) [13:17] kaleo: ah ok. Will give it a shot [13:19] is it possible to use setTimeout? Because I insert it in a function in a .qml file but doesn't work! [13:47] om26er, ping [13:47] salem_, pong [13:48] om26er, hey, about ofono, I just dist-upgraded here and I got the same behavior, but I restarted it by hand and it then it works. [13:48] salem_, restarted = server restart ofono ? [13:49] om26er, yes [13:49] *service [13:49] om26er, I wonder if ofono is not being started before dbus [13:49] salem_, i have done that a number of times [13:49] om26er, did you use service restart? or stop/start? [13:49] salem_, i cannot find ofono in system bus at all [13:49] salem_, both [13:50] om26er, ok, I am rebooting my system and then I can confirm. just a sec [13:50] salem_, ack [13:51] WebbyIT, oSoMoN, the reason that merge proposal was rejected by Jenkins was because now it only lands branches that pass all the autopilot tests [13:51] https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calendar-app/1193090/+merge/170957 [13:51] clicking on the link on the latest comment brings me to http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/ubuntu-calendar-app-autolanding/5/artifact/generic-mediumtests/test_results.xml [13:52] where it says it's not passing these two tests: [13:52] - test_timeline_view_shows(with mouse) [13:52] - test_new_event(with mouse) [13:52] dpm: actually, it says that those two tests (the only tests the app has) are passing [13:52] dpm: see "errors=0" and "failures=0" [13:54] oSoMoN, ah, you're right, I misread "failures" [13:54] ignore my comment, then :) [13:54] balloons, any idea why that merge proposal is failing? ^^ [13:55] dpm: oSomon previously said that jenkins was being flaky..we should see if it passes the next time. At the moment however the jenkins bot is down. I notified fginther who confirmed it. He should bring it up online soon. [13:57] Does anybody here know which app I can use to browse gsetting keys..I cant remember the one I used to use before. [13:57] nik90, I believe dconf-editor [13:57] Ian Lane has written a nice sample app to browser the wallpaper using gsettings keys and I want to see If I can use it get the current time format using gsettings [13:57] dpm: ah that is it. Cant believe I forgot the app's name. [13:58] nik90, unfortunately, just before Laney created the app, I learnt that we're not yet in a position to recommend GSettings to app developers [13:58] dpm: oh :( [13:59] OH! [13:59] it's because it's not in scope for app confinement in 13.10 apparently [13:59] one of the security guys pinged me about it after I filed the bug to get API documentation for it [14:00] that's too bad. I am guessing they are building some other system to provide that funtionality while still confining to app confinement? [14:00] salem_, hey, its seems to be a blunder on my end :/ [14:00] salem_, I had the wrong version of ofono installed, (from the phablet-team ppa) [14:00] nik90, not really, we don't have a fallback yet, so it's back to using LocalStorage and sqlite [14:01] dpm: for the clock app I was more interested in reading gsettings keys than for writing into it [14:01] the gsetting keys provide info such as the time format 12/24 hour format. I thought of using that to show the correct format [14:02] Laney, I'll forward you the thread. In any case, your sample app will make for a good tutorial on d.u.c when GSettings is included in the app confinement work [14:02] What happens if you try to use it? [14:02] We're already using it in system-settings ... [14:02] actually yes I was sure that the system-settings app was using it [14:02] nik90, I'd recommend checking with seb128, kenvandine or the security guys, let me give you their nicks in a sec [14:03] Laney: Since it is the system settings app, does it need app confinement? [14:03] don't really know about that [14:04] Laney: btw thanks for the app code. I couldn't find anywhere a good example of a flickable. I can learn from your code :-) [14:05] nik90: Anyway, it's not too useful on the device since AFAIK nothing sets the gsettings stuff so at best you get the defaults [14:05] it's good on desktop though [14:05] i don't think system-settings will be in app confinement [14:05] some of the plugins will need access to things like that [14:05] kenvandine: true. [14:05] om26er, yes, I rebooted here and it worked out of the box. [14:05] it's too bad if apps won't be able to use gsettings at all [14:06] salem_, yeah, the problem was on my end, using wrong ofono [14:06] maybe long term it could be, but we would need more rules for allowing it to do what it needs [14:06] om26er, ok, better then! [14:06] Laney, we're discussing it [14:06] Laney: yes. but we cannot really write qml apps just for the desktop anyway, so yeah [14:06] Laney, how confined apps can use gsettings-qt [14:06] specifically each app would get their own confined settings [14:06] but not sure it is doable for 13.10 [14:07] hmm [14:08] Laney, one thing that it would need to support is multiple installs of the same app [14:08] with different settings [14:08] i guess that is a supported scenario [14:08] Hi all :) [14:09] so i guess relocatable schemas [14:09] hi mrqtros [14:09] mrqtros: hi [14:15] Today still the Music App Hackday? [14:16] clock! [14:16] music was yesterday, but we accept patches every day! [14:29] popey: nik90: how is the hack day going? [14:30] mhall119: nik90 has been active here.. [14:30] https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-clock-app/1197436/+merge/174380 [14:31] mhall119: hi [14:31] mhall119: well we had our first commit by WebbyIT [14:32] ckpringle: Can you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1171470, it was submitted by you during the clock wireframe design implementation. Things have changed quite a bit since then and we have removed the millisecond transition. In essence the bug is fixed. [14:32] hey mrqtros, careful if you say hi here, we might recruit you for the clock app as well ;) [14:32] Ubuntu bug 1171470 in Ubuntu UX "[clock app] Stopwatch milliseconds to seconds transition feels strange " [High,Triaged] [14:32] ckpringle: I still like to get it by you before I mark it fixed. [14:33] dpm Ahah )))) [14:33] dpm: :-) [14:33] nik90: well, first commit to Clock by WebbyIT, he's been submitting ot other apps all week [14:33] nik90: done [14:34] mrqtros: feel free to take a loot at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bugs?field.tag=hackday [14:34] mhall119: yes I noticed. Our hack day specialist WebbyIT [14:34] ckpringle: thnx [14:38] mhall119: the background gradient support by kaleo has landed in trunk. Eagerly waiting on update to saucy :D [14:39] nik90, mhall119: API is SO COMPLEX :) [14:40] kaleo: :), oh btw any colors used should be through Theme.palette and not UbuntuColors right? [14:41] what? [14:42] nik90, correct [14:43] mhall119: ? [14:43] sorry I've gotten dc'd so many times this morning, my IRC client is confused ;-) I thought I'd pop in here and manually see what's up.. looks like there is a backlog of some questions [14:44] kaleo, nik90: what Theme.palette? [14:44] kaleo, nik90: is using UbuntuColors.orange wrong? [14:44] so popey autopilot requires newer stuff that is only found in raring or greater. Some thought was given towards having it work in precise, but you know, the sdk stuff doesn't work there either, so ... [14:45] dpm, you have/had a question on merge requests? [14:45] seb128: yes using UbuntuColors is incorrect [14:45] balloons, the sdk does work on 12.04 [14:45] nik90, why and what should I use instead? [14:45] daker, oO? [14:46] seb128: basically if use UbuntuColors, then irrespective of the system theme, the color will be what you set it. Instead it should take whatever the theme suggests. [14:46] seb128: So you should be using the SDK theme palette. Let me grab the documentation for you. [14:46] hum [14:46] balloons, yeah, I did have a question, thanks for coming back to me. It seems this merge proposal got rejected for no apparent reason: https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calendar-app/1193090/+merge/170957 [14:46] nik90, the Ubuntu's orange is not theme specific though [14:46] We were wondering if you might have an idea why [14:47] seb128: true. What I meant was that you shouldn't hardcode the widget's color by using UbuntuColors. [14:47] seb128: nik90: I'm assuming the two APIs serve different use cases [14:47] Instead you should let the theme provide the color [14:47] dpm, sure let's see why [14:47] thanks :) [14:48] mhall119: yes [14:48] seb128, the ubuntu's orange is only used in specific themes [14:48] seb128, what's your use case? [14:48] dpm, ohh I see why I think right off the bat :-) [14:48] seb128: If you open the UITK gallery and then open the API documentation, there in the homepage you should find Theme palette documentation. [14:49] kaleo, I'm using it in the disk space bar to show the space taken by the ubuntu image [14:49] in system settings [14:49] yea, indeed.. the UI for calendar has changed but the autopilot test hasn't been updated.. it's failing now [14:49] seb128, let me look [14:50] kaleo, well, it's easy to change if wanted [14:50] seb128, oh yeah [14:50] kaleo: http://iloveubuntu.net/pictures_me/system%20settings%20dropdown%20filter%201.png [14:50] seb128, nice custom widget [14:50] seb128, hmmm, interesting [14:50] kaleo, thanks ;-) [14:51] balloons, I initially thought so too, but then I was pointed at "errors=0" and "failures=0" - so it seems either the tests passed or Jenkins does not report correctly [14:51] seb128, yes right, it's "Used by Ubuntu" [14:51] dpm, yes jenkins is lying to you a bit [14:51] Wait... I opened the ubuntu-clock-app and when I use the alt+tab the icon and name is from the Sudoku app. Is this normal? [14:51] seb128, you have it right then [14:51] http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests/67/testReport/calendar_app.tests.test_calendar/ [14:51] kaleo, right, thanks [14:51] seb128, is this app supposed to use the light theme by default? [14:51] anyways, fix the ap test and you should be good.. need help? [14:51] seb128, or is it going to switch to a different background color essentially? [14:51] ayr_ton: yes, it's a limitation in qmlscene and unity 7 [14:52] kaleo, that's a good question, I don't know [14:52] mpt, ^ do you know? ;-) [14:52] balloons, I think WebbyIT might need some help in fixing the tests for that merge request [14:52] ayr_ton: basically because they all use qmlscene as the process, bamf can't tell what application the window really belongs to [14:52] dpm, ok, can do [14:52] seb128, do you have any visual design mockups btw? [14:53] mhall119, interesting, thanks :) [14:53] kaleo, no, no recent one at least ... just http://design.canonical.com/wp-content/uploads/phone-overview-visual.small_.png which is what was posted on the design blog some time ago [14:54] but that doesn't include subpanels [14:56] balloons, do you think you could also send a reminder to the ubuntu-touch-coreapps mailing list about autopilot tests being executed by Jenkins from now on? I know you mentioned it in the IRC meetings, but not all developers attend them, and probably not all of them are aware of this and might be puzzled by the sudden failures and Jenkins reporting "0 errors" [14:56] dpm, sure sounds like a fine idea [14:56] thanks balloons! [14:58] seb128, I've been given draft mockups that use the dark theme [14:59] mhall119, dpm has the gradient support now landed? [14:59] Need to work over them with the visual designer [14:59] jono, kaleo tells us it's landing today [14:59] dpm, perfect [14:59] jono: it has landed in trunk [14:59] and then I guess we can work to get them implemented in the core apps [14:59] nik90, awesome :-) [14:59] there you go :) [14:59] mpt, ok, can you share that with me, when you get things in an useful state? [14:59] nik90, great work btw! [14:59] jono, dpm: waiting for it as an update in saucy [14:59] jono: thnx :) [15:00] nik90, I used the clock the other day to time the flank steak I was grilling [15:00] worked great :-) [15:00] jono: It is basically 3 lines of code to implement background gradients. All core apps should implement them quickly [15:00] nik90, awesome :-) [15:00] I am glad. [15:00] mhall119, ayr_ton: Trevinho is fixing that I believe, there is a bug report [15:00] bfiller: this is the MR that groups history entries by domain name: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/domain-name/+merge/174435 [15:01] oSoMoN: cool will try it [15:01] jono, dpm, it has landed [15:01] (in trunk) [15:01] kaleo, awesome :-) [15:01] jono, oh, nik90 told you :) [15:01] kaleo, :-) [15:01] kaleo: too late :) [15:01] kaleo: good to hear, fixing it where? [15:01] kaleo, any idea when it will be published so our core app devs can use it? [15:01] mhall119, in BAMF [15:01] yeah, nice work kaleo ;) [15:02] jono, today or tomorrow [15:02] kaleo, perfect [15:02] kaleo, btw, the theming changes in the toolkit look incredible [15:02] they look so slick [15:02] jono: only the clock and calculator have been given gradients in their visual designs [15:02] jono, it's part of the daily releases on saucy, so as Florian says, as soon as the builders pick it up from trunk [15:02] jono, I know, rosie did an awesome job! [15:02] dpm, ahh daily SDK releases are now up and running? [15:03] awesome [15:03] kaleo, for Unity 7 or Unity 8 only? [15:03] mhall119, cool [15:03] jono, it really changes the way you feel about the apps [15:03] jono: btw, the screenshot of the Clock app on my blog, that's using the new API :) [15:03] jono, we had daily releases for months actually :) [15:03] jono, (just not of the documentation publication) [15:03] jono, for the SDK daily releases are up and running (except for Qt Creator) [15:03] seb128, sure thing [15:03] mhall119, LINK [15:03] ayr_ton: presumably Unity 8 won't need the fix, since it doesn't need BAMF [15:03] seb128, I'll put them on the relevant wiki pages [15:03] mhall119, calendar has some gradients too [15:03] mpt, thanks [15:03] kaleo: http://mhall119.com/2013/07/ubuntu-clock-app-hackfest/ [15:03] kaleo, really? I was updating in saucy and never saw updates [15:04] odd [15:04]