[00:00] darran, sak, Noskcaj10 thank you for coming [00:01] enjoyed, it, thank you balloons [00:03] i'll read the logs when i get home, thanks balloons [00:04] Noskcaj10, :-) [00:04] video is up as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD_e_xqlBbg [00:39] plars: ho ... can you see if maguro and mako are still alive :)? [00:40] and if autopilots are in queue on those? [01:11] asac: autopilot jobs already ran on mako, and all failed [01:12] as could be related to a bug I filed a bit ago, I tried on mako locally and the ui didn't come up on first boot. surfaceflinger segfaulted [03:08] plars: how about maguro? [03:11] asac: that one's not set up currently, I think the existing ones on grouper and mako are still being debugged [03:15] plars: grouper matches what was expected [03:15] however its super unimportant device [03:15] top prio i maguro [03:16] second is mako [03:16] unless stuff failed completely dont debug on the infrastructure side... we saw exactly what i see on the dashboard locally as well [03:16] all failing on mako should be looked at yes. [03:17] but i have no local results to cross check [03:17] only maguro i have [03:17] thats what is in here: [03:18] https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au6idq7TkpUUdDhEUy1nM1Jab3N4VGNQS0dQR19lTFE [03:18] plars: is setting up maguro scripted? [03:18] can you do that and kick them off? [03:18] in the hope ... :) [03:19] thomi: can you do n4 manual checks on the tests? [03:19] seems infrastructure has issues and i want to give folks a heads up tomorrow [03:19] default apps would be good enough [03:19] asac: veebers has the nv, and I'm kneck-deep trying to un-bork the unity8 tests. [03:19] just to see if they all fail localy as well [03:19] kk [03:19] veebers: ? [03:19] sorry :( [03:19] * veebers reads backlog [03:20] yeah... i think now we should kill n7 right away [03:20] veebers: its about getting manual results for the tests for n4 [03:20] seems folks always prefer n7 even though its like zero prio :) [03:21] veebers: its trying to run https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au6idq7TkpUUdDhEUy1nM1Jab3N4VGNQS0dQR19lTFE#gid=0 [03:21] on n4 [03:21] plars: try to just check if its infrastructure issue [03:21] asac: right, can do. Although I may have lead you astray when I said it's a nexus 4, its actually a Galaxy Nexus (the samsung one) [03:21] damn [03:21] that one i already have [03:21] asac: ah, sorry [03:21] plars: can you in some way kick off GN? [03:22] i am not sure why we didnt do GN first :) [03:22] i thougth i told everybody that GN is first prio :) [03:22] and N4 second and all the tablets are somewhere later [03:22] i really need those results to give people a heads up tomorrow... [03:22] otherwise i will just send what i did on the spreadsheet [03:22] asac: working on it, I need to make some changes to the script. Please be aware that these just ran for the first time today, and are not yet considered "in production" tests [03:22] which is outdated [03:23] asac: I take it you don't need me to run that manually any more? [03:23] plars: well.. i see all devices succeed executing commands every day [03:23] why would running the autopilot stuff be different? [03:23] asac: I'm talking specifically about the autopilot stuff [03:23] so my suspicion is that the n4 really fails all tests [03:23] even if run locally [03:23] but cant validate locally [03:24] plars: iknow... but ultimately its not much than running commands on a provisioned device, no? [03:24] asac: no [03:24] asac: it's a pretty big difference [03:24] really... odd [03:25] well. ok. [03:25] lets try to get maguro over the line tomorrow [03:25] then [03:25] asac: I can get it running tonight, if you'll give me just a minute [03:25] hehe [03:25] asac: but as I said, they are still not "in production" [03:26] i dont need warnings... i know its all hot iron... i just need one run on todays images [03:26] there are some changes we still need to experiment with on the jenkins side to ensure that they don't allow a job to slip in between them and muck things up [03:26] asac: and I'm doing that now [03:26] veebers: actually i think if plars cannot get it done getting one more run of the default apps tests on todays image would be helpful [03:26] but i really hoped we would get those results from automation :) [03:27] plars: yeah. well. dont stress yourself out :)... in worst case i veebers will do a few on GN and i will do a few tomorrow morning here and then send the results :0... but it would be slam dunk to see that on the dashboard [03:29] asac: ack, will run some app tests in a short while [03:29] asac: ok, I added it to the job generation scripts, regenerated the jobs, and kicked it off, if you have vpn access you can watch it in progress [03:38] yeah if i would be anything less than a moron i would still have VPN access.... but my NM somehow forgot the config and i didnt mangae to set it up when realizing it :) [03:38] will check out tomorrow moring [03:39] veebers: yeah... can you just put it in the column next to mine for the 08 build? [03:39] i will see how far you got and finish off tomorrow [03:39] remember to put the right build id on top [03:39] thanks a bunch [03:40] plars: thanks!! ... dont bother to wait... if they go through they will show up and i will be happy if not. no big deal. we can check tomorrow [03:40] asac: can do [03:40] and will just send my disappointing mail with the manual results we are now getting :) [03:40] i will also get someone to run through n4 tests locally to see if everything fails [03:40] :) [03:40] most likely ogra :-P [03:43] asac: I'd offer, but my n4 is tied up testing something else at the moment, and I think my isp has finally throttled me [03:43] plars: i checked the dashboard [03:43] it looks reasonable for mako [03:43] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/2935/ [03:43] my download rates have slowed to a crawl [03:43] share-app succeeded [03:43] that means for me infrastructure is clean [03:43] and you shouldnt try to figure on your own what the problem is [03:43] i am almost 100% sure we will see the same stuff when run locally without utah [03:44] so all green from QA infrastructure side for now [03:44] dont spend time debugging... i will have ogra check locally and if he sees the same just throw it to the owners of those apps/tests to do everythinhg [03:44] triage/fix [03:44] etc. [03:44] asac: something went awry on notes-app it seems, no tests were run [03:45] really? [03:45] its 2/2 [03:45] thats exactly what i would expect [03:45] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/2935/share-app-autopilot/ [03:45] thats looks realy ok [03:45] asac: not share-app, notes-app [03:45] asac: notes-app is 0/0 [03:45] ah-autopilot run -v share_app.tests.test_share.TestShare.test_cancel [03:46] right [03:46] asac: to clarify, which order would you like me to test: core apps then default? [03:46] thats a bit of a mystery i agree [03:46] veebers: default first... then core apps (aka community) [03:46] asac: ack, thanks [03:47] dns problems it looks like [03:47] well spotted [03:48] incidentally, I think having dnsutils in the touch images would be handy [03:48] veebers: you might want to be lazy and wait a bit and see if we get results matching roughly what i have in the spreadhseet for the GN [03:48] if so you dont need to invest in manual testing i can just through the automated results at folks [03:48] asac: cool, sounds good [03:48] not sure how long you are still on, but if you dont see results until 3 hours before your EOD just start manually [03:50] asac: heh, that's about now. But I'll be back on later so can check then [03:51] veebers: right. well. i really just care about getting fresh results for GN (maguro) and mako for defaults apps... because those are the apps where we have paid developers doing the work :) [03:51] and unity is scheduled for later :) [03:52] and unity is being fixed with lots of enthusiasm by saviq and thomi so i am sure they will be great [03:53] veebers: so just focus on getting a bunch or all of them done when you find time... as long as i dont have to run all tomorrow i am happy :) (i only have a half day for travel reasons tomorrow to fill out and send mail to folks) [03:54] plars: can you send doanac a ping to remind me to talk about dnsutils with me while you are gone? i am completely brain wrecked right now and surely wont remember :) [03:54] doanac`: ping [03:54] :) [03:55] asac: yes, we have a sync tomorrow, I'll tell him to nag you about it [03:55] asac: I see that you don't have the -n flag for phablet-test-run (disables the shell for the app test). I seem to recall that being a requirement for the apps tests, although that may be out of date now [03:55] plars: hey [03:56] veebers: dunno ... i saw tests go completely green without it [03:56] asac: ah ok, I just had 7 failures with the camera_app (marked green in spreadsheet) [03:56] and the grouper results on dashboard seem close enough to believe that what i did manyually is ok [03:56] veebers: yeah further to the right you see thomi's n7 results [03:56] i think he didnt get the scheme so its not clear :) [03:57] moved :) [03:57] asac: right, but I also have a GN and more than tests fail for me, whereas you get green [03:57] but its a throwaway spreadsheet anyway :) [03:58] veebers: which build? [03:58] 09 was completely busted [03:58] i had to go back to 08 [03:58] i woul dhope that -n would give more green :) [03:58] asac: hmm how do you get the build date, I see "JENKINS_BUILD=saucy-41" in /system/ubuntu_stamp [03:58] i dont know :( [03:59] i dont have the 08 image anymore [04:00] i have it still one sec [04:00] Downloads/phablet-flash/ubuntu-touch/20130708/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.zip [04:03] asac: ah good point, just did a listing of those directories to get the most recent files [04:04] dman [04:04] that ziup doesnt even have the ubuntu_stamp file [04:04] so *shrug* [04:04] asac: the maguro results are starting to show up now: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/2934/ [04:05] nice [04:05] green for share [04:05] 84.2% for notes [04:05] wait [04:05] i had 15 out of 19 failures [04:05] if that is 84.2% you calc the success wrong :) [04:06] hmm. thats 78.something [04:06] feels scary close [04:06] to the upside down calc [04:06] :) [04:06] doanac`: sure you guys interpret the fail/total and not as success/total? [04:07] both me and thomi had 78% failyures [04:07] on different devices [04:07] i hope this turned to 84% success :) ... but maybe worth checking [04:07] that the real output agrees with that number [04:08] nice ... phone-app == success :) [04:08] asac: notes is 16/19 [04:08] i didnt have a SIM so that would explain my RED [04:09] doanac`: in the log? ... what the stuff outputs is fail/total and not success/total.. unless my eyes were on crack the other day [04:09] asac: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/2934/ is starting to show results [04:09] ah, doanac` beat me to it :) [04:09] plars: :) [04:09] dejavu :) [04:09] its great [04:10] so i love that dejavu :) [04:10] asac: i think the timing is just perfectly bad, and the rest of the results won't show for another 30 minutes, when the dashboard polls jenkins again [04:12] doanac`: what's odd, is that webbrowser was the last one to run, but it's here [04:12] that effect is called: race :) [04:12] or fail :) [04:12] i hope its race [04:13] doanac`: can we greedily kick another poll because its late and we love to watch how it goes :)? [04:13] or is tha trisky? [04:13] (i mean: more risky than landing all thist stuff :)) [04:13] asac: cjohnston and josepht are the guys with access to do that [04:14] they aren't on [04:14] lazy guys. [04:14] sleep is for the weak i used to say when i was still a core-dev :) [04:14] doanac`: I'm on, what do you need? [04:14] lol [04:14] see if we can brute force getting jenkins reults on the dashboard was the idea [04:15] see a few lines above [04:15] smoke results? [04:15] josepht: can you make the qa-dashboard to a quick sync of smoke? [04:16] plars: so the maguro tests really got results super fast imo [04:16] given that it flashes everything etc. [04:16] doanac`: it's runnning [04:16] e.g. 30 minutes for all [04:16] hmm. maybe my perception of time is just off [04:17] asac: i flash once, then run each test only doing reboots in-between [04:18] are all jobs going on the same device? [04:18] yes [04:18] thought we had a pool and they are parallized [04:18] ok [04:18] ic [04:18] how is that done in jenkins? [04:18] doanac`: unless you beat me to it, I'll experiment with locking that master job to the subordinate jobs in the morning [04:18] nevermind [04:18] lets talk about that at another time [04:19] plars: give it a shot. i'm a bit overloaded with a couple of other things. [04:19] asac: yeah - you don't want to know the world of jenkins [04:19] "remember sammy jenkins" :) [04:19] doanac`: I'd do it tonight, but staring at xml at 12 am can only spell disaster [04:19] http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDoQ3eg99RKHwAC0GJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTFxMzBjMGUyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZAMyMjllNjZhMDQxMjIxZGEwZjU5ZGE0NGQyNWZiYzEzZQRncG9zAzQ-?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dremember%2Bsammy%2Bjenkins%26fr%3Dcrmas%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D4&w=461&h=279&imgurl=i.stack.imgur.com%2FFfq6w.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmovies.stackexchange.com%2Fquestions%2F10526%2Fwhat-is-th [04:20] oops... damn long urls [04:20] i forgot :) [04:21] the dashboard pull is done [04:21] nice... 0% :) [04:21] josepht: we have a small bug [04:22] plars: doanac`: can you confirm that http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/2934/ shows all jobs that were supposed to run? [04:22] we are missing 2 jobs [04:22] josepht: mediaplayer and camera. let me share links ... [04:22] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/All/job/smoke-saucy-touch-apps-maguro/ === _salem` is now known as _salem [04:25] Good morning [04:25] 6:25 and pitti is booting up :) [04:25] thats ... err... scary [04:27] i usually take it a sign i should go to sleep when I see pitti logging in for the day [04:27] heh [04:27] seems we need NZ after all to get a 24/7 sprint going [04:27] we dont need NZ i mean [04:27] THATS scary [04:27] pitti: go to bed :) [04:27] for 2h [04:27] asac: I hope you aren't in Germany ATM [04:27] no... east coast :) [04:28] monday i am back in central europe ... working 24/7 :) [04:30] hah [04:30] asac: don't forget to work in the plane :) [04:30] german mode [04:30] :) [04:33] josepht: did you figure whats going on with those? [04:34] otherwise i believe we all can go to sleep ... and plars to early vacation :) [04:34] asac: yeah those two jobs don't have any utah artifacts [04:34] asac: no, I'm here tomorrow for sure [04:34] doanac`: ^^ [04:34] plars: man. its a great achievement to cut and just take overhours swap day :) [04:34] but wll.. i know you wont listen [04:35] veebers: so can you do camera and mediaplayer only? [04:35] josepht: sorry. I could have sworn i saw yamls for them. [04:36] i'll dig into the job [04:36] sorry to waste your time [04:36] doanac`: no worries [04:36] plars: josepht: doanac`: thanks. great stuff. talk to you tomorrow! i have all i need for now [04:36] dont sweat it :) [04:36] folks should now go and run stuff locally and fix :) [04:36] asac: I've done cam, friends and gallery was about to do media player [04:36] nice [04:36] veebers: thanks! [04:36] i have enough data [04:36] and folks will have enough work for the rest of the week [04:37] :) [04:37] plars: josepht: asac: the problem: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/All/job/saucy-touch-maguro-smoke-mediaplayer-app-autopilot/1/console [04:37] we have a disappearing maguro in the lab [04:38] doanac`: that can't be good [04:38] looking [04:38] yeah. i have the results i want... so now you can do the fixes needed like fixing the locking etc. [04:38] :) [04:38] doanac`: it's actually there, looks like an adb race [04:38] ugh - i worry adb doesn't scale well [04:39] this is awesome. i think gema just got online [04:39] we are literally working around the clock [04:39] hehe [04:39] as i said [04:39] I'm wearing my "Quite Awesome" shirt [04:39] even without NZ we could work 24h [04:39] thats scary [04:39] hence... guys.. you did an amazing job [04:40] i have all i needed... why not start digging into whats going on tomorrow (at least you guys in texas :)) [04:40] thanks [04:40] good night [04:40] n8!! [04:40] see y0ou tomorrow [04:42] n8 asac === forestpi1kie is now known as forestpiskie [06:54] good morning [08:23] asac, ping [08:34] Good Morning all :-) [08:41] hi DanChapman [08:44] Hey elfy :-) === asac` is now known as asac [12:02] Saviq: bongo [12:03] asac, hey, we want to start looking into memory / performance / resource testing in unity8 [12:03] asac, can you point me at someone who I could talk to about that? [12:04] asac, ideally integrated with whatever reporting / shooting $dev solution you have for regressions [12:04] yeah... let me wake up and think :) [12:04] maybe you can join a hangout in a couple minutes with tvoss? [12:04] lets say at :15? [12:05] will ping you once ready :) [12:05] could be a couple minutes later than that [12:06] asac, hmm in McDo's now for power (outage at home) - not the best place to hang out [12:07] asac, should be back 1300UTC [12:07] Saviq: :) hope its not breakfast time for you [12:07] Saviq: thats in one hour? [12:07] yes [12:07] sounds good [12:07] asac, ah, wrong... [12:07] asac, thought I'm free until 1330UTC [12:08] asac, but I've a meeting from 1300UTC to 1450UTC [12:08] asac, can we do later? or Monday? [12:09] Saviq: monday would be best. qa team has pulled huge things last nights and i think they need some moment for recovery :). [12:09] Saviq: is this for desktop or phone? [12:09] asac, phone [12:09] cool. yeah. maybe lets chat a bit here... [12:10] Saviq: do you alreayd have some kind of tests and just want to sort how to run it on infastructure and how to make the reporting happen? [12:10] or do you want to first check sanity on your test approach? [12:11] asac, we have a set of unit tests (dpkg-build-time), isolated ui tests (CI-time) and some autopilot tests (not nearly enough) [12:12] asac, but none of them had any performance measurement in mind [12:12] asac, so we simply need to pick brainz about how to approach that [12:12] right. [12:13] i think tvoss would be the right guy to discuss the high level approach etc. first [12:13] he has been good in setting good standards for the memory budgeting thing. [12:14] and gema should appoint someone from QA team i would think to have this discussion. let me talk abit around today. === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:46] * cjohnston blames balloons for breaking the dashboard :-) [14:05] wah! [14:05] is everything I ever wanted on the dashboard done cjohnston ? [14:05] balloons: I blame you.. http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/2933/webbrowser-app-autopilot/ [14:10] finally these things are coming online, sheesh! [14:10] is mir online yet? [14:34] balloons: hi balloons. sorry for bothering, when we get the time can you take a look at this? [14:34] when you [14:34] https://code.launchpad.net/~slickymaster/ubuntu-manual-tests/xfce4-power-manager-settings/+merge/174360 [14:38] slickymaster, yes of course [14:38] balloons, Morning! .... it is morning where you are right lol [14:40] Yes, still morning DanChapman :-) [14:40] whew, so today is all about reviewing code and helping out.. so if you've got something for me to look at today's the day :-) [14:42] * DanChapman is seeing if he has anything for balloons to look at [14:44] doanac`: did you recover yet? [14:44] :) [14:46] plars: :) [14:46] asac: we're in a meeting right now [14:47] kk [14:47] talk in a bit then [15:04] balloons, I'm looking at the Terminal test in the dev branch at the moment. And can see that it can now be introspected which i will do. What would you say are the requirements of the test? I can't see how we can test the actual xterm emulator window anymore than create a file and check the file system for it. Would you say more focus on the dialog windows i.e. profiles, shortcuts, search. Aswell as the usual fullscreen, tabs e [15:04] tc [15:05] DanChapman, yes terminal is a bit more funny, but worth checking out.. Window management is a good one. we can't test the color stuff sadly.. I wonder about the fonts or "other" profile things [15:08] balloons, ok cool I was going to strip the colours and backgrounds out. I'll have a play and see how it goes [15:09] sounds fine.. Keep it simple for now and see what happens. Introspection is already going to make the whole thing saner! [15:10] It is pretty wild atm! [15:22] balloons: thanks, let us see what noskcaj and elfy had to say about it [15:23] * elfy is happy with it as it is currently [15:24] elfy: thank you, I'll leave it as it is and consider it ready to merge === zyga_ is now known as zyga [15:25] balloons: if it's also ok with noskcaj, I consider the test good and done to be merged [15:28] slickymaster: I'll check spelling and format in a moment and approve if it's ok [15:28] elfy: Thanks. I appreciate it :) [15:29] elfy, thanks mate [15:31] slickymaster: "The Display Power Management Signaling (DPMS) is disabled" too L's in signalling - but I'm really not too concerned about that [15:31] given that American's can't spell colour properly ... :p [15:31] but you can change it if you want [15:32] elfy, hey mate. :-) I have made a start on getting some autopilot tests together for xubuntu. Evince worked straight away without any mods but firefox and fileroller ( which has a diff UI to ubuntu) are not working. Although I haven't tried the new firefox test yet. I will try to get those two working over the weekend :-) [15:32] you are a superstar :) [15:32] elfy: LOL [15:34] elfy: I'll fix tonight. Right now I'm at work and behind a proxy and not able to push the branch [15:35] I've approved it slickymaster - really not worried about that. [15:35] I could come up with hundreds of spelling/grammar errors in testcases [15:35] * DanChapman looking forward to seeing 0 fails on jenkins tonight [15:36] balloons: I've approved that one now - if I knew how to actually merge it I would [15:36] elfy: ok, elfy, I'll leave as it is, then and assign myself to a new one (while continuing the settings manager) [15:36] elfy, merging isn't so bad at all [15:36] yep - cool slickymaster :) [15:36] DanChapman, wahoo! 0 fails! [15:37] balloons: I doubt it is - but trying to get someone to walk through bzr things doesn't always work out :D [15:37] DanChapman, not today, but we need to get the ubiquity stuff added too.. I know we talked about it. There's some technical work and ideas to be done [15:39] balloons, yeah pitti said he had talked with jibel about it and he was going to look into how to fake a disk drive to get it working. [15:40] right, that was going the otto route I believe... it'll be more of a challenge that way I think :-) [15:40] he's up to it! [15:40] balloons: I would have assumed that doing bzr merge lp:~slickymaster/ubuntu-manual-tests/xfce4-power-manager-settings would do the job - but then again it might not :) [15:40] elfy, checkout the trunk branch [15:40] then do a bzr merge lp:~slickymaster/ubuntu-manual-tests/xfce4-power-manager-setting [15:41] then commit and push back to trunk [15:41] that's it.. you already knew how :-) [15:41] * elfy wanders off to try and to get a rest from writing stuffs [15:42] balloons: hang on - don't you add numbers or something? [15:42] balloons, what route do you think would be better? [15:42] elfy, I do, but that's for the sync to the tracker itself [15:43] k [15:43] so if you wanted to do that step manually, basically you would copy and paste the testcase into a new test on the tracker. Then name it id_Name [15:43] that's the format. But you don't have to do that at all. Just merge without it and I'll add the id later when I run the sync [15:43] I'd give everyone the sync tool, but it uses my apikey :-) [15:43] see - knew it - not as simple as you said - you always forget the steps you know :D [15:44] I'm telling you not to worry about that part :-) [15:44] just merge and ignore the id stuff :-) [15:44] balloons: no, not that - the other "that's it.. you already knew how :-)" bits [15:45] elfy, lol.. you did. [15:45] don't worry about it now - I'll catch up with you some time early next week [15:45] what you mean - lol you did - all I get here are errors [15:45] enjoy your weekend mate! [15:45] I hear even the UK is warm this week :- [15:45] yep [15:46] and little one is off to Big Town with her school - dad is free ... ;) [15:46] NICE! [15:46] elfy enjoy it!! [15:46] balloons: on a serious note I will catch up early next week about this - I'd like to sort out the howto [15:47] DanChapman, did you attempt or plan to attempt getting through the video I put together on autopilot? [15:47] DanChapman: I shall [15:50]