=== kees_ is now known as kees === forestpi1kie is now known as forestpiskie === tjaalton_ is now known as tjaalton === sergiuse1s is now known as sergiusens [13:21] cjwatson: ping reading the update_excuses.html does "valid candidate" mean it should be ok to get it out of proposed? [13:22] zul, no, it means it's a valid candidate, check http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt [13:23] zul, I don't know the specifics but excuses seems to list only blocks/outdated versions (like fail to build)/tests, the installability issues are on the output page [13:23] seb128: ok cool thanks [13:23] zul, what source are you looking at? [13:23] apache2 [13:23] oh, yeah, that's a non trivial transition ongoing [13:24] He should know, he started it. :P [13:24] "valid candidate" means that it is OK to proceed to the second stage, logged in update_output.txt [13:24] zul, look at the big list at the top of http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt under it [13:24] It means that there is no reason *within that source package itself* to block it [13:24] zul, that' the packages involved there [13:24] zul: You might as well not bother. I've spent several days on this now and most of it is clearing via Debian. [13:24] More to the point, the big list at the end where the autohinter tries to get it in. [13:24] The list at the top is less helpful. [13:25] cjwatson: ok thanks [13:25] Plus rbasak merging php5 (how's that going)? [13:26] cjohnston: i was more concerned about the zentyal/ebox stuff that im pretty sure is not in debian [13:26] :-/ [13:26] Tab completion is hard. [13:26] It is [13:26] yeah especially when i just woke up :P [13:27] You're only seeing that because you aren't looking in the block of output from the autohinter. [13:28] The one at the top is where proposed-migration tries to promote apache2 *on its own*, discovers that it breaks lots of stuff including libapache2-mod-perl2 and hence zentyal etc., and then stops. [13:28] But promoting it on its own is never going to work, so don't worry about that. [13:28] cjwatson: rbasak is here hit and miss, he is at an event this week. [13:28] I'll go punch him. [13:28] Instead, search for "Trying easy from autohinter: apache2" [13:28] Daviey: I know [13:28] ok ill go back to trying to wake up [13:28] His php5 merge was taking a bit longer than expected because he's trying to do it "right". [13:29] Daviey: But he was in progress on this [13:29] Like, auditing years of cruft and dropping/fixing useless/broken deltas, etc. [13:29] cjwatson: Aye, just wanted to help explain if he doesn't respond quickly [13:29] infinity, one can do php *right* ?!? [13:29] Daviey: That's OK, it wasn't meant as a synchronous request :) [13:29] Thanks [13:29] ogra_: I used to, before I gave it up. [13:29] haha [13:32] Of the remaining things the autohinter is complaining about, several are blocked on php5, libapreq2 is under discussion in Debian, I have NMUs on their way for (authnz-external, authz-unixgroup, defensible, fastcgi, spamhaus, suphp), somebody else has an NMU on its way for lisp, I think I know what to do for auth-pgsql, and that just leaves a handful. [13:33] Did peterS get around to doing subversion? [13:33] No, but jcristau dropped the libapache2-svn binary for now. [13:33] That seems... Suboptimal. [13:33] Which is less good, but it'll pass for the moment. [13:33] Julien's pretty keen to try to disentangle things. [13:35] Assuming we get php5, and once the upcoming set of NMUs land, I'll probably temporarily demote the remaining packages to -proposed so that we can move on. [13:47] php is still going. I wrote some dep8 tests to help, and then got slowed up by autopkgtest issues. I'm fixing those on the way, hence it's taking longer than expected. I think I've got most of the way through it now. If we're in a hurry I can be quicker by not worrying about the dep8 side so much, and then fix it up later. [13:48] Also Debian has update php5 since I started. But I can upload soon to free apache2 and do the rest later. [13:49] rbasak: yeah, quick is probably more interesting than complete here, though all the other work you're doing is also shiny. :) [14:14] infinity, no good deed goes unpunished. no sooner did I upload precise linux-firmware, then Ben updated the upstream repo with an important AMD ucode fix. [14:14] linux-firmware_1.79.6 is in the pipe [14:15] rtg: Sorry, you only get one per day. [14:15] but that was yesterday [14:15] Hrmph. [14:17] rtg: Will accept in a bit. [14:17] infinity, no rush [15:28] infinity / slangasek: could one of you accept ubuntu-release-upgrader to raring-proposed? [15:43] bdmurray: Okay. [15:43] infinity: thanks === dannf` is now known as dannf === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === rtg is now known as rtg-afk === rtg-afk is now known as rtg === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha