[13:21] <zul> cjwatson: ping reading the update_excuses.html does "valid candidate" mean it should be ok to get it out of proposed?
[13:22] <seb128> zul,  no, it means it's a valid candidate, check http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt
[13:23] <seb128> zul, I don't know the specifics but excuses seems to list only blocks/outdated versions (like fail to build)/tests, the installability issues are on the output page
[13:23] <zul> seb128:  ok cool thanks
[13:23] <seb128> zul, what source are you looking at?
[13:23] <zul> apache2
[13:23] <seb128> oh, yeah, that's a non trivial transition ongoing
[13:24] <infinity> He should know, he started it. :P
[13:24] <cjwatson> "valid candidate" means that it is OK to proceed to the second stage, logged in update_output.txt
[13:24] <seb128> zul, look at the big list at the top of http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt under it
[13:24] <cjwatson> It means that there is no reason *within that source package itself* to block it
[13:24] <seb128> zul, that' the packages involved there
[13:24] <cjwatson> zul: You might as well not bother.  I've spent several days on this now and most of it is clearing via Debian.
[13:24] <infinity> More to the point, the big list at the end where the autohinter tries to get it in.
[13:24] <infinity> The list at the top is less helpful.
[13:25] <zul> cjwatson: ok thanks
[13:25] <cjwatson> Plus rbasak merging php5 (how's that going)?
[13:26] <zul> cjohnston:  i was more concerned about the zentyal/ebox stuff that im pretty sure is not in debian
[13:26] <cjohnston> :-/
[13:26] <infinity> Tab completion is hard.
[13:26] <cjohnston> It is
[13:26] <zul> yeah especially when i just woke up :P
[13:27] <cjwatson> You're only seeing that because you aren't looking in the block of output from the autohinter.
[13:28] <cjwatson> The one at the top is where proposed-migration tries to promote apache2 *on its own*, discovers that it breaks lots of stuff including libapache2-mod-perl2 and hence zentyal etc., and then stops.
[13:28] <cjwatson> But promoting it on its own is never going to work, so don't worry about that.
[13:28] <Daviey> cjwatson: rbasak is here hit and miss, he is at an event this week.
[13:28] <infinity> I'll go punch him.
[13:28] <cjwatson> Instead, search for "Trying easy from autohinter: apache2"
[13:28] <cjwatson> Daviey: I know
[13:28] <zul> ok ill go back to trying to wake up
[13:28] <infinity> His php5 merge was taking a bit longer than expected because he's trying to do it "right".
[13:29] <cjwatson> Daviey: But he was in progress on this
[13:29] <infinity> Like, auditing years of cruft and dropping/fixing useless/broken deltas, etc.
[13:29] <Daviey> cjwatson: Aye, just wanted to help explain if he doesn't respond quickly
[13:29] <ogra_> infinity, one can do php *right* ?!?
[13:29] <cjwatson> Daviey: That's OK, it wasn't meant as a synchronous request :)
[13:29] <cjwatson> Thanks
[13:29] <infinity> ogra_: I used to, before I gave it up.
[13:29] <ogra_> haha
[13:32] <cjwatson> Of the remaining things the autohinter is complaining about, several are blocked on php5, libapreq2 is under discussion in Debian, I have NMUs on their way for (authnz-external, authz-unixgroup, defensible, fastcgi, spamhaus, suphp), somebody else has an NMU on its way for lisp, I think I know what to do for auth-pgsql, and that just leaves a handful.
[13:33] <infinity> Did peterS get around to doing subversion?
[13:33] <cjwatson> No, but jcristau dropped the libapache2-svn binary for now.
[13:33] <infinity> That seems... Suboptimal.
[13:33] <cjwatson> Which is less good, but it'll pass for the moment.
[13:33] <cjwatson> Julien's pretty keen to try to disentangle things.
[13:35] <cjwatson> Assuming we get php5, and once the upcoming set of NMUs land, I'll probably temporarily demote the remaining packages to -proposed so that we can move on.
[13:47] <rbasak> php is still going. I wrote some dep8 tests to help, and then got slowed up by autopkgtest issues. I'm fixing those on the way, hence it's taking longer than expected. I think I've got most of the way through it now. If we're in a hurry I can be quicker by not worrying about the dep8 side so much, and then fix it up later.
[13:48] <rbasak> Also Debian has update php5 since I started. But I can upload soon to free apache2 and do the rest later.
[13:49] <infinity> rbasak: yeah, quick is probably more interesting than complete here, though all the other work you're doing is also shiny. :)
[14:14] <rtg> infinity, no good deed goes unpunished. no sooner did I upload precise linux-firmware, then Ben updated the upstream repo with an important AMD ucode fix.
[14:14] <rtg> linux-firmware_1.79.6 is in the pipe
[14:15] <infinity> rtg: Sorry, you only get one per day.
[14:15] <rtg> but that was yesterday
[14:15] <infinity> Hrmph.
[14:17] <infinity> rtg: Will accept in a bit.
[14:17] <rtg> infinity, no rush
[15:28] <bdmurray> infinity / slangasek: could one of you accept ubuntu-release-upgrader to raring-proposed?
[15:43] <infinity> bdmurray: Okay.
[15:43] <bdmurray> infinity: thanks