[00:00] membership [00:00] really... wow [00:00] everyone misses the mail once or twice ☻ [00:00] man thats screwed. why would someone get evicted from ubuntu membership. [00:00] but guess thast policy [00:00] yeah [00:00] right, bed! [00:00] nn [00:00] so i am lucky i am still DD it seems :) === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam === diegoyam__ is now known as diegoyam [00:28] back from food and such.... hm.. touchscreen is 90 off from display screen... [00:29] degrees that is === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] [01:36] anyone still awake who can review unity8 MPs? https://code.launchpad.net/~thomir/unity8/fix-ap-test-launch/+merge/174321 === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [02:59] sergiusens: sorry for the delay, I can take a look now === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo [03:00] sergiusens: I was just using the normal phablet-flash, which I believe just grabs the latest one [03:00] plars: yeah, the one in that MR will grab the actual current link [03:03] sergiusens: got a second? [03:03] thomi: yeah [03:03] sergiusens: what do the LD_LIBRARY_PATH and QML2_IMPORT_PATH env variable patches in the unity8 autopilot tests do? [03:04] or, another question: how come when I launch unity8 I don't see it on the tablet screen? I just see black... [03:04] not sure if it's related to the fact that I commented out those to env var patches or not [03:04] thomi: do you launch it as a user? [03:04] sergiusens: as pahblet [03:04] thomi: you do need QML2_IMPORT_PATH [03:04] ahh ok [03:05] thomi: LD_LIBRARY_PATH is probably a left over [03:05] from when qt5 lived in /opt [03:07] ugh [03:17] hy === denny_ is now known as Guest7439 [03:17] can i instal ubuntu in smartphone chinese? [03:17] hellooo [03:23] Guest7439, On a psuedo manufacturers smart phone? [03:33] where can I download ubuntu for tablet? [03:34] sergiusens: still around? [03:34] yup [03:36] sergiusens: so I rebooted the device, and the shell starts showing up in the tests for the first few runs... then it stops [03:37] sergiusens: I think it might be the screen blanking that's confusing me - is there a way to turn that off? [03:38] thomi: oh, powerd, there are instructions mfisch sent to ubuntu-phone@ [03:39] thomi: there's a powercli iirc [03:39] I should probably join that mailing list [03:41] cyphermox_: sorry, I'm now [03:41] cyphermox_: what's up? [03:42] thomi: run powerd-cli without options, although I think you want the activate param [03:43] sergiusens: hey, saw you reverted the ubuntu-boot.img patch [03:43] I got it, thanks sergiusens [03:43] sergiusens: what was the issue there? [03:44] rsalveti: oh, I need to get back to it, but it doesn't work on a clean maguro build while it did on manta [03:44] rsalveti: need to look into further though [03:46] woooooo! Finally figured out why all the unity8 tests fail on the device! [03:46] and it only took me... 8 hours! [03:46] sergiusens: it looks to me like some files are missing [03:46] it looks like the tests expect a folder at: [03:47] /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/unity8/qml/LightDM/single_pin/ [03:47] (the final folder name changes according to the lightdm mock that the test loads) [03:47] but I don't have that on my device - any ideas? [03:47] thomi: you might want to write mterry about that [03:48] sergiusens: what timezone is he in? [03:48] thomi: I'm really not involved in unity at all, nor the apps themselves [03:48] sergiusens: who should I be bugging about this? [03:48] thomi: I think he's in west coast USA, or wait for mzanetti or Saviq, they should be joining soon [03:48] ok [03:49] thanks [03:49] thomi: anyone in the unity8 team, dednick, Saviq, mzanetti tsgeos mterry [03:51] sergiusens: well, it worked fine here when testing maguro, manta, mako and grouper [03:51] sergiusens: I wonder if it's just a connection error or such [03:51] error: could not load ramdisk '../out/target/product/maguro/ubuntu-ramdisk.img' [03:51] this comes from the initrd package [03:52] sergiusens: have the full log so we can check if the generic initrd was downloaded successfully? [03:52] rsalveti: it's big, and on jenkins, one sec [03:53] rsalveti: http://10.97.2.10:8080/view/Phablet/job/ubuntu-touch-image/40/console [03:54] rsalveti: also, if it's generic, we should probably download just once (when we do the import with hybris) [03:54] sergiusens: ok, worked with and without --pending correctly [03:54] sergiusens: guess I'll wait for them then [03:55] plars: heh, rsalveti already happroved, but good that it worked! [03:55] cyphermox_: can you daily release phablet-tools _if_ we missed the trigger for tonight [03:55] sergiusens: sorry, I suspect I'm either getting throttled, or something is seriously wrong. My connection has slowed *way* down tonight [03:56] asac: lol, so you're not even an ubuntu member anymore? [03:56] plars: no worries [03:56] sergiusens: right, hard to do it in a generic way like that, I'd prefer to be downloaded automatically during the build [03:56] such as the kernel [03:57] so we know it always gets the latest [03:57] otherwise it'll only download the latest when running source envsetup.sh [03:57] maybe it's just a race in the makefile [03:58] rsalveti: well I wouldn't want to turn off parallel building :-) [03:58] stgraber: I can take a look at the hybris android_root patch change tomorrow, do you still want to see if that would work? [03:58] sorry, had to be away most of the day, trying to recover from a flu [03:58] rsalveti: are you recovered though? [03:58] :-) [03:58] sergiusens: not yet, but can't sleep anymore [03:59] mhall119: do we still need https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/ubuntu-seeds/rename-calendar-app/+merge/174243? guess so [03:59] let me check [04:00] sergiusens: Target Ubuntu Touch ram disk: /home/ubuntu/jenkins/workspace/ubuntu-touch-image/out/target/product/manta/ubuntu-ramdisk.img [04:00] Downloading ubuntu-touch-generic-initrd version 0.12 [04:00] yeah, seems a race [04:00] it's trying to use the file before the download & copy function is done [04:01] let me check that patch [04:01] rsalveti: i got booted [04:01] i am really annoyed [04:01] lol [04:01] i am still on mozilla security group and can still see all the exploits [04:02] I can write a testimonial as well :P [04:02] i will use that now to own a few of the board members [04:02] so i can get all power back without even kicking [04:02] :) [04:02] lol [04:02] nobody booted me [04:02] but the project that i did most for just expired me [04:02] right [04:02] no questions asked... [04:02] the policy is flawed [04:02] well, that's how lp works [04:02] send a few emails, then expire [04:03] i was send to work in this thing called linaro [04:03] lol [04:03] and i couldnt read ubutu mail anymore [04:03] and now i punched into a developer group without upload rights :) [04:03] and have to reapply for ubuntu membership... hell :) [04:03] annoying, but funny [04:04] i will just get your gpg key i hope :) [04:04] lol [04:05] hahaha [04:06] sent to work on this thing called linaro... you mean you were sent to gcc hell [04:09] sergiusens: http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/0001-core-Makefile-making-sure-the-ubuntu-ramdisk-is-part.patch [04:09] sergiusens: revert the revert and then try with this one [04:10] rsalveti: nah, apparently we have binary blobs that we can't guarantee will respect the android_root setting, so we'll have to live with all those symlinks [04:11] stgraber: right, we could hook up the open/map and such to follow that variable, but indeed, but hard to cover 100% as we're dealing with blobs [04:12] it know it looks dirty, but guess we need link all that in / anyway [04:14] sergiusens: we can check this tomorrow, but I want to tag/branch everything in there so we can have a different setup for the flipped images [04:14] and use the ubuntu ramdisk as default, even inside system.img === _salem` is now known as _salem [04:25] mhall119: merged and meta uploaded [04:25] time to try to sleep a bit more, later [04:49] heya, does ubuntu-phone work on NOKIA N9? [04:50] I'm not really sick of Meego yet, but aegis is tiresome, altho I am trying to learn how to master inception on it.. [04:51] hello friends [04:51] hi [04:52] roasted: do you know if ubuntu-phone works on the nokia N9 tablet? [04:52] or what tablets it works on, for that matter. [04:52] I can't help but to wonder something... with Gnome Shell being rather mobile-capable, and KDE spinning up Plasma Active, if the capability on an Ubuntu Touch device would introduce the capability to install something like Gnome or Plasma Active as an alternative to the Unity-esque interface that has been demoed? [04:52] arvut: I have no idea :( [04:52] arvut: I had the dev preview of Ubuntu Touch running on my Nexus 7 a few months ago, but it was so unusable back then I went back to Android. [04:53] I'll go to #harmattan and ask them, maybe they have a clue :P [04:59] hi there [04:59] hi [04:59] i cant manage to ssh my galaxyS ubuntu touch [05:00] its a Saucy Touch and I'm on a Saucy sesktop [05:00] desktop [05:01] it gives me a ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer [05:01] what i really would like to do would be to mount the system [05:02] for I just need to access the phone's usr/bin/ubuntu-session and edit its screen configurations [05:03] i tried using nano on the included terminal in the phone [05:03] but i cant do Cntrl+X to save the changes can I? [05:04] I dont have a miniusb external keyboard either :( [05:04] anyone awake? :) [05:04] hi roasted :D [05:04] hi [05:04] I have no idea :/ [05:05] do you know someone who can help? [05:11] I am unsure of who would know. [05:12] I'm here on unrelated thoughts, as I began to wonder if there could be a way to install something like Gnome Shell or Plasma Active onto an Ubuntu Touch device to get an alternative UI to it [05:13] galaxySubuntuTou: You could try vi instead of nano, a little different but it works... I assume you've gone through the guide regarding SSH? [05:14] hi degello :) [05:14] yeapp, going thru the guide on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes [05:14] hello, sorry, I've been looking through the 15 tabs on firefox and editing junk and such... [05:15] :) ok [05:15] hehe :) [05:15] ill try vi then :) [05:15] sudo apt-get vi? [05:15] and I really should be gonig to sleep soon.... they want me to "work" for some reason tomorrow [05:15] vi should already be there [05:15] ok [05:16] use as nano? [05:16] I would read a little about how to use it though [05:16] ok [05:16] i wonder [05:16] i have ported saucy to galaxy s [05:16] is this new? [05:16] the only thing i could find was from january [05:16] :) I am not sure tbh [05:16] or fabruary [05:17] and was the demo [05:17] did help me a lot for doing this port though [05:18] :) [05:18] i can reproduce it if necessary [05:19] dont know the pro-formas to make it public though [05:24] ok, please dont leave without telling me how to exit vim and saving the changes :D [05:24] vi [05:25] press escape to get back to control mode, then type :wq [05:26] hoo, this is completely different from nano lol, is there a touch manual for vi? [05:28] heh, still here but going to leave now I think [05:28] had to do one mroe build and test [05:28] ok, thanks for the help [05:28] more* [05:29] np, adios! [05:29] chriadam, how can I edit in vi? i cant seem to change the text... [05:29] press i [05:30] hooo, elegant :D [05:31] and which is the escape key? [05:31] i'm afraid it is not being recognized [05:33] i just need a touch manual for vi === frals_ is now known as frals [05:47] chriadam, i'm seeing a sheat set, trying to discover how to delete a character, should be i+backspace, right? [05:47] I have no idea. try control h. [05:48] which is control in the touch keyboard? [05:50] no idea, sorry. [05:50] its ok, thanks [05:53] got it, its the x to delete right :) [06:00] be-u-ti-ful :) the screen is awesome, great work you guys/gals [06:02] UT Saucy rulez [06:10] ogra_, ping [06:10] kaleo, good morning :) [06:15] hi [06:17] anyone knows how to do when you tried to install phablet-tools [06:18] and have dependencies with Python? [06:20] The following packages have unmet dependencies: phablet-tools : Depends: python-requests but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. [06:47] good morning [06:54] thomi, still around? [06:55] thomi, both the envs are needed - QML2_IMPORT_PATH makes it so we're looking at ap-specialized plugins (for app management that we don't have on desktop and LIghtDM, which we can't access from a user session) [06:56] thomi, so it points at mocks of those two interfaces [06:56] thomi, whereas LD_LIBRARY_PATH is used to tweak the LightDM mock to include different sets of users as needed for the testing [07:00] thomi: hey [07:01] Saviq: do we know what was wrong with autopilot? [07:01] mzanetti, I'm not even sure it's a "was" yet [07:01] mzanetti, https://code.launchpad.net/~thomir/unity8/fix-ap-test-launch/+merge/174321 [07:02] Saviq: hmm... couldn't see why this would fix anything [07:03] mzanetti, it probably doesn't [07:03] but then... the issue is soo weird... who knows [07:03] mzanetti, it's just something that made it easier to test for thomi, I think [07:03] mzanetti, without having to build locally [07:03] hopefully [07:03] he has something else in his pockets too :) [07:04] maybe the real fix is in autopilot itself? === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [07:21] asac: not sure if you've heard, but some autopilot tests are starting to appear on the dash: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/ [07:29] Saviq: so... I'm off then. I'll be on every once in a while throughout the week [07:29] bye [07:29] mzanetti, right! [07:29] mzanetti, have fun and come back smarter of all the nice Qt stuff is happening :) [07:30] aye [07:30] thanks [07:30] btw... have you seen the WebApps in QML thingie? [07:31] mzanetti, I don't think I did? [07:31] Saviq: http://akreuzkamp.de/2013/07/10/webapps-written-in-qml-not-far-from-reality-anymore/ [07:32] ah :) [08:15] hi gema [08:15] nice! [08:18] gema, looks like the apps are failing their tests on the nexus 4 [08:20] didrocks, do you know if those tests were failing upstream as well? [08:21] rickspencer3: yeah, there are failing since Monday (as already warned upstream) [08:21] it seems to be a sdk regression [08:21] didrocks, are the failures problems in the tests themselves, or are they bugs in the apps? [08:22] (bugs caused by the SDK, I suppose?) [08:22] sorry, since Tuesday's commits, not Monday (detected the 10) [08:22] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Apps/job/cu2d-apps-head-2.2check/ [08:22] rickspencer3: yeah, real bugs AFAIK, caused by the SDK [08:22] sil2100: is following this, do you know more? ^ [08:25] rickspencer3, didrocks: Florian committed a fix for the SDK issue we had, let's try re-running the Apps stack using that version [08:25] We'll know if it helped or not [08:25] sil2100: hum, tonight's run was with that version, isn't it? [08:25] as the apps stack depends on sdk [08:26] sil2100: ah no, yeah, we need to rerun with check with whole ppa, you're right :) [08:26] didrocks: well, the check job failed because of extra packages to install ;p So I think we need to fix that first anyway [08:28] tvoss, yo [08:29] didrocks: to quickly unblock the stack, I'll fix it up and re-publish, ok? Maybe without committing to config trunk since I'm doing the cleanup anyway [08:31] sil2100: just use check with whole ppa first, to ensure we test apps with latest sdk [08:33] rickspencer3, didrocks: yep, we are not yet looking at the failures, quite focussed on making the tests run, hopefully results make sense to the dev teams [08:33] gema, it hardly seems acceptable that the SDK is causing so many test failures [08:34] I am glad that you are running the tests [08:34] the dev team needs to make them green [08:34] rickspencer3: agreed [08:35] We're considering running some Apps tests on SDK releases to make sure that the SDK doesn't break the applications completely, as didrocks recommends [08:35] sil2100, good [08:35] rickspencer3: we've also added an extra layer to make the triaging easier, when you click on one of the jobs it takes you to the list of tests that run: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/2935/webbrowser-app-autopilot/ [08:35] whatever the case, allowing breakages in the image to go on for days slows everyone down [08:35] we need to be able to encourage everyone to run the daily image [08:36] Good morning all, happy Friday and happy Cow Appreciation Day! (With a shout out to Embrace Your Geekness Day tomorrow) :-D [08:39] sil2100, tbh, I'm kind of surprised to hear the SDK team doesn't run all the app tests on every change [08:40] it seems like a really cheap way to make sure they aren't breaking the world [08:47] ARGH [08:47] crap [08:47] todays image fails to build [08:48] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5867534/ [08:48] hrm [08:48] looks like someone changed the indicators but didnt update the seeds === schwukz_away is now known as schwuk [08:55] rickspencer3: sil2100: all apps tests passed here (desktop version) with latest sdk page [08:55] gema: ^ [08:55] I hope that with next image, you will see the same results [08:56] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/413/testReport/ [08:56] didrocks: publishing apps [08:56] sil2100: \o/ [08:57] Finally the autopilot job is free ;D [08:57] sil2100: heh, you can play now to refresh the package list :) [08:57] didrocks: we may be seeing either environmental issues or differences between desktop and devices [08:57] didrocks: we'll need to figure it out [08:57] gema, I suspect that didrocks meant that the tests pass after the fix committed [08:58] gema: yeah, I can't wait to have the phone wired up so that we validated both environment before pushing to distro :) [08:58] rickspencer3: oh, that's good [08:58] didrocks: later today you will! [08:58] gema: right, with latest sdk from this morning [08:58] didrocks: ack, will keep an eye on them [08:58] popey: Here is the bug you were referring to in yesterday's design meeting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1200371 [08:58] Ubuntu bug 1200371 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "auto-scroll input fields when OSK visibility changes" [High,Confirmed] [08:58] in any case , I am a pessimist when it comes to tests, they can still fail for some other reason :) [09:00] didrocks: can we run all the autolanding tests for landing the sdk? [09:00] didrocks: even if they are not their own tests [09:00] gema: well, not all, we should run the apps tests impacted by the sdk [09:00] didrocks: ok [09:00] gema: it's what I suggested for a long time and yeah, we should ;) [09:00] didrocks: who is the person that should put that in motion? [09:02] gema: that was discussed with the sdk team, selected the relevant tests though will take some time (we don't want to explose the release time with running everything, just relevant tests). see some lines above, sil2100 is on it ^ [09:02] didrocks: ack [09:03] didrocks: ok, so what is missing for us to be able to do that, is it someone needing to decide to switch on the tests or is it a technical problem that needs to be solved to be able to do it? [09:04] gema: not a technical problem, just someone picking the right tests to run and updating a list [09:04] sil2100: are you doing that? [09:04] basically every stack has a list of packages, test packages and tests to run [09:05] gema: I can! I was poking people to do things related, but I can find a test list if needed [09:05] sil2100: please please! [09:06] sil2100: the more stable you guys make the sdk, the less problems we have to triage down the line :) [09:07] gema: true true ;) [09:08] gema: I'll work on that before afternoon and get back to you [09:09] sil2100: thanks! [09:14] sergiusens, why were the indicator packages removed === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [09:23] oh, they werent ... [09:23] * ogra_ curses having to dig through PPAs for official images [09:36] ogra_: we expecting a build soon? [09:36] popey, if i ever find out who made that mess with the indicators and why i will do a respin [09:37] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5867534/ [09:37] rage-meter for ogra: [||||||||||||||] HULKIN' [09:37] it looks like someone changed the code in unity8 [09:37] ogra_: you sound like you are going to respin someone x) [09:37] but didnt drop the deps on these packages [09:37] Saviq, ^^^ any idea whats going on there ? [09:38] gema, popey, i'm way beond rage, that was 30min ago when i had to click madly through LP pages to even find the packages involved in different PPAs :) [09:38] ogra_, indicator plugins you mean? [09:38] Saviq, yeah [09:39] ogra_, because they've been built into unit8y [09:39] [ Nick Dedekind ] [09:39] * Moved indicators-client code into unity8. (LP: #1191132, #1191822) [09:39] Launchpad bug 1191822 in touch-preview-images "duplicate for #1191132 After a wireless network is selected the list of networks says "Empty!"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1191822 [09:39] Launchpad bug 1191822 in touch-preview-images "After a wireless network is selected the list of networks says "Empty!"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1191822 [09:39] but the package still depends on them [09:39] ogra_, no it doesn't, it recommends indicators themselves [09:39] ogra_, not indicator plugins [09:39] oh, wait, he didnt update the seeds [09:40] so ubuntu-touch does, not unity8 [09:40] ogra_, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/trunk/view/head:/debian/control#L71 [09:40] yeah [09:40] ogra_, yeah, we didn't update the seeds yet (I've a branch, let me) [09:40] ogra_, but shouldn't break anything anyway [09:41] ogra_, did it? [09:41] it does [09:42] dammit I've no power nor wifi, of course [09:43] dednick, can you please assist ogra_ if I drop out ↑ [09:43] Saviq: sure [09:43] well, i can drop them from the seeds myself, no worries [09:43] i just dont like to do that without knowing whats going on :) [09:44] ogra_, is that the only breakage? [09:44] ogra_, https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.saucy.clean-unity8/+merge/173162 - updating now [09:44] yeah, looks like [09:45] ogra_, but what's the symptoms? I installed the packages fine next to indicators-plugins? [09:46] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5867534/ [09:46] uhoh [09:46] I just picked up my phone, battery seemed dead [09:47] I plugged it into my 'puter, red led starts flashing [09:47] not confidence inducing ;) [09:48] ogra_, /me no get it [09:48] rickspencer3: common [09:48] plug it into a real charger [09:48] popey, well, I'm not actually too worried [09:48] like I say, not confidence inducing [09:48] i.e. something that can deliver more than 500mA [09:48] ogra_, uugh, the merge wasn't strictly correct... [09:48] I presume it means the battery is really and truly flast [09:48] ogra_, I was updating it [09:48] flat* [09:48] same happens on Android ☻ [09:48] yes [09:48] ogra_, since we don't install recommends, they need to be in the seed [09:48] yeah, it's the hardware [09:48] Saviq, yeah, its a bit weird, but i assume dropping them will fix it ... there must be another versioned dep somewhere (probably through the dropped lenses) [09:48] which I assume means that some process ran down the battery and the phone couldn't suspend [09:48] charging it from there is a pain [09:49] not sure thats accurate. it is just too low to have enough juice to boot [09:49] it may well have been in suspend but eventually it died [09:49] Saviq, well, the above commit indicates we dont need them anymore [09:49] ogra_, not -plugins- [09:49] ogra_, but indicator themselves, yes [09:49] oh [09:50] i see [09:50] then the seed change was indeed wrong [09:50] ogra_, and they've been pulled by -plugins- before [09:50] hrm [09:50] ogra_, ah, and no need for -lens-music / -lens-video, not used anyway [09:50] ogra_, pushed that change to my branch now [09:51] * Saviq goes to McDo for power and WiFi [09:51] rickspencer3, were you connedted through adb the whole time ? that keeps it awake [09:51] ogra_, nah, I just put the phone down with my wallet and other stuff from my pocket [09:51] Saviq, right, but we might need the indicators back [09:55] Morning all [09:55] popey: is the image safe ? [09:55] davmor2: I don't think there's an image yet [09:55] Saviq, hah, i think i got it ... the plugins all depend on indicators-client with a versioned dep [09:56] ogra_: sadtrombone.com [09:56] gema: Ta [09:56] davmor2: and I wouldn't install the previous one, wait for this one [09:57]