[00:00] http://incrediblethinking.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/wearable-and-chic-smartphone-charger/ [00:00] pwnd [00:01] D: [00:01] haha, yea [00:01] pretty much exactly the same as I plan to do with my coat (I wanna induction charge the coat, too) [00:01] hmm wait no, it has a "dock connector" [00:01] so that's not the same [00:01] ah :) [00:02] yea, it's for iPhones and they lack NFC [00:02] chic, really? That thing looks horrible. [00:02] its not nfc [00:02] Maybe I should get into design and make a coat, haha [00:02] sorry, induction [00:02] my wife has an induction charger for her iphone [00:02] I've caught my friends illness, he keeps calling induction NFC, dammit. XD [00:02] has a thin clamp around the phone [00:02] works well [00:02] popey: yea, but you have to have an ugly case thing, yea [00:03] all phone cases are ugly [00:03] induction or not [00:03] popey: interestingly, inside those cases are just a pretty thin coil, it actually seems pretty simple to just pull the coil out, take the back off the phone, and dump it in there [00:03] NFC is not charging tech [00:03] I'm gonna try and do it with my nexus 7 [00:04] yeah lots of people do that [00:04] also you can just buy a replacement back cover with the coil already on it for many phones [00:04] someone did this exact hack on the n900 [00:04] years ago :) [00:04] sweet :D [00:04] you could even get one custom 3d printed [00:05] hehe [00:05] have you thought about the possible health effects of a high energy EM field extremely close to your body? i mean this is going to be much more powerful than the radio transmitters... [00:06] ali1234: nope [00:06] if I die, I blame everyone but me [00:06] well if you die at least you won't be able to say i didn't warn you [00:07] hehe [00:07] ali1234: are there any serious risks associated with that? [00:08] i don't know - [00:09] and it's pretty hard to get real answers when there is so much FUD about even wifi and power lines and all that [00:10] i think i'll stick with my trusty charging cable and 5 day battery life symbian phone [00:10] yea [00:10] sure I'll be fine, it's just magnets. [00:10] and we're never gonna figure out how they work [00:13] i wish bbc would leave all their documentaries on iplayer permanently. it's not like they are gonna sell them on dvd [00:15] if they ever repeat this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00kjq6d it explains how magnets work :) [00:15] hehe [00:17] if you believe that show, electricity was first "used" for magic tricks, because nobody could figure out how it worked or how to use it for anything [00:17] i don't know how true that is though [06:14] morning everyone [06:31] Good Morning! [06:44] hey BigRedS [06:47] Ah! Good morning! [06:47] How's things? [06:55] morning [07:34] http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me9c8x9QkB1qdtjvlo1_1280.jpg [07:35] haha [07:35] BigRedS: this is brilliant: http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/nokia%203310 [07:36] good morning everyone, [07:36] hi brobostigon [07:36] hi MartijnVdS [07:36] It's FRIDAY [07:37] yes, [08:09] Hi [08:09] \o kaushal [08:09] Any wiki page for installing Java JDK 7 on Ubuntu raring ringtail 13.04? [08:09] MartijnVdS: Hi [08:10] kaushal: help.ubuntu.com? :) [08:10] ok [08:11] MartijnVdS: so its installed using PPA? [08:14] the partners repository, iirc [08:14] ok [08:14] oh that page seems wrong [08:15] it doesn't use update-java-alternatives [08:15] (which you want) === msm is now known as Guest20204 [08:35] Good morning all, happy Friday and happy Cow Appreciation Day! (With a shout out to Embrace Your Geekness Day tomorrow) :-D [08:36] exec -o cowsay moo [08:36] _____ [08:36] < moo > [08:36] ----- [08:36] \ ^__^ [08:36] \ (oo)\_______ [08:36] (__)\ )\/\ [08:36] ||----w | [08:36] || || [08:36] SuperMatt: exec -o apt-get moo | cowsay [08:38] well that's just silly [08:41] ,pp [08:41] moo even [08:41] i bet it mangles it [08:42] it does. a lot. [08:42] it does [08:42] SuperMatt, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5867516/ [08:42] mangled cow! [08:42] ... [08:42] I'm glad you didn't paste that in here === schwukz_away is now known as schwuk [09:04] Good morning peeps :) [09:07] howdy bigcalm [09:10] * christel does a little dance [09:10] * bigcalm makes a little love [09:10] christel: ♫ It's friday, friday [09:12] gotta get down on friday [09:14] it is [09:14] AND [09:14] my first feature length movie has just become available to the american market (UK to follow) [09:14] WHICH IS ALL VERY EXCITING [09:14] :D:D [09:15] "young harlots in manchester"? [09:16] haha [09:16] this friday sucks.....nuff said [09:16] http://www.amazon.com/After-Death/dp/B00DM12QTM/ref=sr_1_2?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1373576618&sr=1-2&keywords=after+death / http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1822203/ :) [09:16] the imdb link has a trailer if you fancy a quick glance [09:16] a few harlots, not that many! [09:17] christel: what's your involvent in it? forgive my ignorance? [09:17] christel: ignore that, [09:17] just seen it [09:17] associate producer, according to imdb [09:18] yeah just spotted it [09:55] Morning all [09:59] morning davmor2 [09:59] Morning davmor2 [10:01] morning guys [10:13] Hullo [10:30] http://imgur.com/gallery/M8LwEaU/ don't make the same mistake as me and misread this headline [10:30] ol [10:31] ol? [10:31] ordered list? [10:32] lol i meant doh! [10:35] [10:37] thank you for closing your tags [10:38] one thing I hate (and which is prevalant on the internet these days, is when people don't close their brackets [10:38] tags annoy me just as much [10:38] ) [10:38] { [10:38] } [10:38] *phew* [10:38] {{({({{({(({({({{{({({({({({({ [10:38] :( [10:38] :D [10:38] argh! [10:39] < [10:39] why so mean? [10:39] « [10:40] well, I'll just go and cry into my cup-a-soup now. I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY [10:40] \o/ great success [10:41] at least you have a cup a soup [10:41] I don't really [10:41] it just seemed to be the most humerous thing I could cry in to [10:41] so you're a soup liar? [10:41] I am a soup liar [10:41] you have soup for bones? [10:41] * TheOpenSourcerer wonders what to have for lunch... [10:41] I've got a wrap [10:41] TheOpenSourcerer: ask AlanBell ;) [10:41] TheOpenSourcerer: i would go with ... food [10:41] I'm at home [10:42] He's in the office [10:42] TheOpenSourcerer: sure, but he has "food" :) [10:42] Indeed MartijnVdS [10:43] I can't really leave the house. Windows have been painted and can't be shut for a few hours yet. Only me here. :-( [10:43] omg, someone who *didn't* paint the windows shut? [10:43] I hate when people do that [10:43] lol [10:43] open door, leave house, close door, lock door, forage for food [10:44] neuro: .. have house cleaned out by burglars who come in through the open window [10:44] well, that's a risk [10:44] (and leave paint everywhere they go) [10:44] TheOpenSourcerer: nowhere near you that delivers food? [10:44] just eat ftw [10:44] I suggest having a curry for lunch [10:44] or a kebab [10:45] I was rather thinking of making something from what is in the cupboards/fridge/freezer [10:45] my local domino's opened 45 mins ago [10:45] Domino's are a scurge on the planet. Crappiest, most expensive junk you can buy. They are really bad pizzas. Disgusting. [10:46] in your opinion [10:46] IMHO of course ;-) [10:46] papp johns are winning my heart at the moment [10:46] directhex: Bioshock Infinite is at 50%, buy now or wait for it to be 75%? [10:46] czajkowski: hey, i see skynet's working again [10:46] bigcalm, it won't be <50% until the xmas sale. [10:46] SuperMatt: my nearest papa johns is too far away to deliver [10:46] I'm back :-) [10:46] bigcalm: is 75% a sure thing? [10:46] skynet has risen ! [10:46] touch choices [10:46] * MartijnVdS hides [10:46] czajkowski: and in da panic, did dey try to pull da plug? [10:47] directhex: I didn't think it would get much better than the 50%. Ponder ponder [10:47] awww man, I think I might order papa johns for dindins tonight [10:47] thanks guys, you're a real help [10:47] SuperMatt: bah [10:47] neuro: blame the air con :) [10:47] Irish servers :) [10:47] lol [10:48] http://securityreactions.tumblr.com/post/55173857845/trying-to-explain-to-someone-how-dos-works [10:51] Woo, my phone is repaired and ready for collection. I've missed having it in my pocket [10:52] f'nar [10:52] * TheOpenSourcerer radiates last night's left over Tuna Pasta Bake, and grabs a TS Butch T from the greenhouse. [10:52] Alice Madness Returns - any good? I enjoyed the 1st one [10:52] so so [10:53] I would just stick with fond memories for the first [10:53] Fair enough [10:54] there's really nothing that I want in this sale [10:54] which is good for my wallet [10:54] Heh [10:55] i found out yesterday that my quarterly bonus won't be in my grubby mitts until this pay day, so i'm buying *nothing* until then :) [10:56] at least, nothing gadgety/gamey/appy [10:56] cos, you know, food [10:58] bonus hah [10:58] i remember those days [11:03] \o/ bonus [11:04] hi [11:04] popey: once a quarter, if i meet my perf targets ;) [11:04] HELLOOOOOOO [11:07] i have ubuntu apache2 server small problam could you solve [11:07] depends what the problem is ;) [11:12] http://guff.zensoft.net/jeopardy.think.mp3 [11:14] DVRR: whenever you're ready ... [11:14] sorry i have tomcat server also i am redirecting to port 8080 to 80 [11:15] my website access www.example.com ,example.com both but www.example.com some urls are not working [11:16] example.com all urls working [11:17] do you have two separate VirtualHost configurations for www.example.com and example.com? Or are you using a ServerAlias for one of them? [11:18] no i have only 1 server and 1 VirtualHost configuration [11:19] i am configuration tomcat cluster different ports [11:20] you should check your error logs and see what happens when you have problems [11:21] which log tomcat or apache [11:21] look at whatever you have defined for ErrorLog in your apache config, and also look at your catalina logs for tomcat [11:23] logs no error show [11:23] what do you mean by "not working"? [11:23] there's not a lot of info to go on here [11:38] http://madebynathan.com/2013/07/10/raspberry-pi-powered-microwave/ [11:38] brilliant [11:48] hmm, guess DVRR didn't want help after all :( [11:49] they'd perhaps have gotten better luck in #ubuntu-in [11:49] popey: that is total total class [11:52] i've always wondered why modern microwaves don't have "cook at A power for B seconds, stand for C seconds, cook at D power for E seconds" command queuing ability [11:52] because they have "easy defrost" programs [11:53] instead [11:53] that's different though [11:53] Those are pre-programmed queues like that [11:53] yes but defrosting != cooking [11:53] yeah, ours does [11:53] with some parameters (weight, type of food) [11:53] neuro: mine has "auto-cook" mode [11:53] neuro: as well as auto-defrost [11:53] hmmm [11:54] just need replicators and we're done ☻ [11:54] in fairness, my microwave is coming up on 13 yrs old, so i can't say i've looked at current options [11:54] YES [11:54] yeah, ours is ~12 years old too [11:54] need to replace the bulb [11:54] "Computer, coffee, Jamaican blend, double strong, double sweet" [11:54] it's been blown for ~8 years [11:54] haha [11:54] fsvo "need" [11:54] neuro: [11:55] "Computer, prune juice, extra large" [11:56] Yay power outage day in Wolverhampton [11:56] davmor2: yay! [11:57] "Computer, raktajino" [11:57] speaking of which... http://jim-nielsen.com/sandbox/old-interfaces/ [11:57] "Screenshots of computer interfaces from old movies" [11:57] yay [11:57] I know this, this is unux! [11:58] SuperMatt: quote fail [11:59] oh bums [11:59] wasn't jurassic park before you were born SuperMatt ? ☻ [11:59] no! [11:59] http://startreksysadmin.tumblr.com/post/38064860305/bynars-love-unix [11:59] I saw it in the cinema, thank you very much [11:59] neuro: our microwave does have that [11:59] (command queuing ability) [11:59] bah, screw you guys and your 21st century microwaves [12:00] well it cost about 150pounds so it better have all the bells and whistles in it [12:00] ... [12:00] why? [12:01] why did it cost that much? [12:01] why would you spend that much! [12:02] why do people buy Macs instead of Eee PCs? [12:02] why do people buy Audis instead of Smart cars? [12:02] http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/panasonic-microwaves-2154-commercial.html [12:02] but my £20 one from argos does most of that [12:02] it boggles me [12:03] I do doubt that === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:03] what does it do better, that's what I really want to know [12:03] the heat is licked onto the food by kittens [12:04] "You’ll find Panasonic’s Inverter technology on most of our microwave models. This gives constant energy on medium and low power settings (instead of switching on and off as traditional microwave ovens do) - providing the perfect, even cooking process for your food whilst saving energy." [12:04] ah [12:04] good for making porridge for example [12:04] all right, that's cool [12:04] hehe [12:04] * popey hugs his 150 quid toaster ☻ [12:04] the grill and oven functionality is great too when we're having a Fray Bentos pie and two baked potatoes [12:05] nom! [12:05] quicker to heat up than the big oven [12:05] * MartijnVdS has an IKEA microwave/oven/grill combo thingy [12:05] i wonder if i can get a samsung one with android ... [12:05] Samsung Galaxy Oven [12:05] and it even makes a sound when it's done heating up [12:07] i still can't get my head around combination microwave thingies [12:07] like, can you use it like a "normal" oven? [12:08] speeds up making baked potatoes [12:08] http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/60182568/ <-- mine [12:08] that doesn't really answer my question ;) [12:08] well not quite.. but almost [12:09] my "real" oven is old and crap [12:13] wow, well this was predictable, i guess: http://cooking.stackexchange.com/ [12:50] I see the steam sale doesn't extend to kerbal space program much [12:50] only %10 off [12:52] don't they shuffle the offers around? [12:53] I couldn't make the KSP demo work properly. Launched from steam, it crashed, and launched directly from its folder in .local/share/Steam the design thingy wouldn't work properly. I couldn't connect with the ends of components, only their sides. [12:53] demo worked here [12:53] It's our apprentice reunion this weekend - keep awau from the Swan tomorrow night popey ;-) [12:53] TheOpenSourcerer: I'll drop by at closing time to see you injure yourself [12:53] Thanks [12:53] ☻ [12:56] neuro: http://madebynathan.com/2013/07/10/raspberry-pi-powered-microwave/ [12:56] neuro: Picrowave ;) [12:58] 12:38:44 < popey> http://madebynathan.com/2013/07/10/raspberry-pi-powered-microwave/ [12:58] keep up [12:58] ☻ === msm is now known as Guest25582 === emmy is now known as Guest21927 === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:36] anyone got a quantal test system handy? [13:37] if you do, please install arora, run it, and go to http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/random/mathjax.html and tell me what you see [13:40] i can a bit later [13:50] I've got one somwhere down an rsync list [13:54] !info libqtwebkit4 quantal [13:54] libqtwebkit4 (source: qtwebkit-source): Web content engine library for Qt. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.1-4ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 5629 kB, installed size 23785 kB [14:12] OT | Seem to be too many aphids around this year.. [Question: anyone seen many Waaaaaasps this year ?] Sitting here with my netbook on the prom./garden I note the difference in aphididae .. [14:13] redtape|renegade: only near you :P [14:13] ali1234: installing [14:13] ali1234: i see two lines { 0 [14:14] hmm ok thanks [14:14] np [14:14] kind of expected that, it has the old qt version [14:14] anything else? [14:15] no, not unless you're highly familiar with the patches ubuntu has done to qtwebkit 2.3.0 [14:15] nope, but I know who does === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [14:15] but they're end of day [14:16] i need to do more tests anyway [14:16] building src.orig at the moment [14:18] i actually did a LD_PRELOAD with the qtwebkit from debian testing and it fixed the bug [14:19] unfortunately debian has 2.2.1 as well === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [14:26] given an id_rsa file, how do i tell the key length and strength? [14:29] I've found you can see it in gnome-keyring [14:29] but from the command line, I don't know [14:59] these phi processors are not very user friendly [14:59] have to build your own kernel drivers and update flash before can use [15:02] update *firmware [15:02] and nothing works as expected [15:35] less /proc/cpuinfo ... [15:35] processor : 239 [15:35] vendor_id : GenuineIntel [15:35] How do I export a clip off audacity again ? .. seems to export the full track .. [15:48] no fun to be had ! redtape dloads starch ebook. [15:48] \o/ weekend [15:48] \o/ [15:49] * MartijnVdS tries to decide what kind of geek project to undertake this weekend [15:49] (last weekend was radius+wpa) [15:49] write me a qml app ☻ [15:49] popey: but I have no idea what kind of app [15:49] i do! [15:49] then write it :P [15:50] popey: but.. what kind of app do you have in mind? [15:50] potholes ? [15:51] popey: does QML support mathematical markup? [15:51] I'd like a simple qml demo using box2d with a bunch of buttons on the screen which cause shapes to fall down and pile up at the bottom [15:51] pass [15:52] also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euSxmVhiG60 [15:52] oh thats delightful [15:52] you can't make a "simple" box2d demo with QML because you can't use box2d without writing a C++ -> QML wrapper [15:52] that demo uses bullet of course [15:52] popey: so.. tetris? [15:52] but the theory is the same [15:53] MartijnVdS: no, randomly, so they pile up like ali1234's video [15:53] ali1234: ken made the box2d wrapper [15:53] isn't that a lot of physics code? [15:53] then the QML is like 3 lines of code [15:53] well packaged it [15:54] actually that is true of pretty much any QML app [15:54] pretty sure it's packaged in our ppa [15:54] in reality nobody writes entire apps in QML [15:54] https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/qml-box2d/qt5 [15:54] they write a widget in C++ that does "whatever" and then dump it in the middle of a QML area. two lines of code [15:55] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/collection its in there [15:55] yeah, i wanted a pure qml example [15:56] yeah the thing about that is nobody in there right mind would build a game against that box2d plugin [15:57] because it's not going to be available on sailfish for example [15:57] or it might be available but subtley incompatible [15:57] so what they'll actually do is roll their own wrapper and then ship with their own copy of box2d [16:00] when i made this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CcfG5uxSOw i used libode. had to port it myself of course [16:00] but it was not worth it to me to maintain it [16:00] by port i mean i packaged it [16:00] but this was a bad idea in hindsight because nobody has time to write software *and* maintain packages [16:01] so in future i used bullet which is BSD and i can just static compile it [16:02] also lol @ comments [16:21] popey: how about if instead of shapes it's jono heads? [16:21] and when they bump they say "community!" [16:21] a selection of heads would be nice [16:21] hah, yes [16:22] well i already have steve balmer and linus [16:22] making more heads is also quite easy, you just need two images and some audio clips [16:27] ali1234: one of each of the podcast hosts saying "hiya"? [16:28] that means someone would have to listen to the podcast tho :P [16:29] ali1234: I've heard rumours of people who listen to it [16:29] ali1234: you could just ask popey ;) [16:32] so how do i install qml-box2d? [16:32] do i have to add the non core ppa? [16:34] ok got it [16:35] right i'll look at this later. going for dinner now === brobosti1on is now known as brobostigon === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOW === JamesTai1 is now known as JamesTait [17:36] * MartijnVdS submits a photo to the Saucy Wallpapers group === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [18:07]