| Saviq | jdstrand, found the issue, qtubuntu reverses the arguments | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| Saviq | jdstrand, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5866645/ is the grep DEN | 00:16 |
| Saviq | jdstrand, and I'm prepping a fix for qtubuntu | 00:16 |
| Saviq | jdstrand, https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/qtubuntu/fix-reversed-arguments/+merge/174313 | 00:22 |
| Saviq | jdstrand, https://chinstrap.canonical.com/~msawicz/phablet/ these two packages should sort you out | 00:43 |
| Saviq | jdstrand, or you can get the packages from jenkins output.zip https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/qtubuntu/fix-reversed-arguments/+merge/174313/comments/390384 | 00:59 |
| * Saviq → bed | 01:00 | |
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| tvoss_ | Saviq, ping | 07:01 |
| Saviq | tvoss_, pong | 07:01 |
| tvoss_ | Saviq, good morning :) quick one: shared_ptr's and qml, good or bad idea? | 07:02 |
| Saviq | tvoss_, http://qt-project.org/wiki/SharedPointersAndQmlOwnership ;) | 07:02 |
| tvoss_ | Saviq, so usual QObject* and c'tors with QObject* parent are best | 07:03 |
| Saviq | tvoss_, yeah, that's what QML expects | 07:03 |
| Saviq | tvoss_, and even though we're using some shareds here and there and haven't noticed problems | 07:04 |
| Saviq | tvoss_, YMMV | 07:04 |
| tvoss_ | okay | 07:04 |
| Saviq | tvoss_, to make things safer, Satoris sents up the data() of a QSharedPointer after having set the object ownership to Cpp | 07:12 |
| tvoss_ | Saviq, ack | 07:13 |
| Saviq | tvoss_, as described in the wiki, really | 07:13 |
| tvoss_ | Saviq, yeah, bookmarked that one | 07:13 |
| Saviq | Mirv, hey, glad 5.1 worked for you - the test... must've been something weird with the environment, it should've exported QT_QPA_PLATFORM=minmal so that it doesn't try and connect to X | 07:14 |
| Saviq | Mirv, otherwise it'd fail everywhere from jenkins to the PPA | 07:15 |
| Mirv | Saviq: I'm glad as well. sure, something weird it. it'll pop up again if it's something that needs fixing. | 07:18 |
| Saviq | Mirv, yup | 07:18 |
| Saviq | let's see, will I make it through the power outage? | 08:15 |
| nic-doffay | Cimi, can you pastebin me an example of a component using themes/colour pallet’s? | 08:20 |
| nic-doffay | Saviq, how much battery left? | 08:46 |
| Saviq | nic-doffay, 1:23 | 08:46 |
| Saviq | nic-doffay, unfortunately it's a dying battery :/ | 08:47 |
| * Saviq needs to finally fix it / get one for the optical drive bay | 08:47 | |
| nic-doffay | Saviq, aren't they all? :P | 08:47 |
| Saviq | nic-doffay, indeed! | 08:47 |
| nic-doffay | Took me ages to buy a new one. | 08:47 |
| Saviq | nic-doffay, this one lasted some disappointing 18 months | 08:48 |
| Saviq | was nice at the beginning with almost 8hrs life... now it's more like 1:40 | 08:48 |
| nic-doffay | Saviq, mine for ages was 0. haha | 08:54 |
| Saviq | nic-doffay, ;) | 08:54 |
| nic-doffay | Cimi, up above dude. <nic-doffay> Cimi, can you pastebin me an example of a component using themes/colour pallet’s? | 08:55 |
| nic-doffay | At least just the colour pallet for now. | 08:55 |
| nic-doffay | I'll figure the Ubuntu Shape thing later on. | 08:56 |
| nic-doffay | That def will need themes. | 08:56 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, sorry it's the ping day | 09:18 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, got so many pings I am catching up :) | 09:18 |
| Cimi | your turn | 09:18 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk/revision/608 | 09:19 |
| nic-doffay | Cimi, what am I looking for? | 09:27 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, color: Theme.paletter.normal.background | 09:27 |
| Cimi | -r | 09:27 |
| nic-doffay | Cimi, and for labels and all that? | 09:27 |
| nic-doffay | Colours etc? | 09:28 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, the documentation for colours is in the palette file | 09:28 |
| nic-doffay | Cimi, ok great | 09:28 |
| Cimi | should be easy, ask if you need | 09:28 |
| nic-doffay | Cimi, which ones the Pallete file? | 09:34 |
| nic-doffay | There are two here. | 09:34 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, actually | 09:34 |
| Cimi | https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/color_palette/+merge/173114 | 09:34 |
| Cimi | this is easier to read | 09:34 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, modules/Ubuntu/Components/Themes/PaletteValues.qml | 09:35 |
| nic-doffay | Cimi, what do I need to import? | 09:37 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, nothing | 09:38 |
| nic-doffay | Cimi, and testing this works? | 09:38 |
| nic-doffay | Just run the the gallery preview in the sdk? | 09:38 |
| nic-doffay | Any idea? | 09:38 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, wait a bit then mumble | 09:41 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, mumble? | 09:50 |
| nic-doffay | Cimi, yeah one sec... | 09:50 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/camera-app/trunk/files | 09:56 |
| sil2100 | dednick: hi! Unity unit tests for i386 started failing, strangely | 10:05 |
| sil2100 | dednick: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/144774686/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-i386.unity_7.0.2%2B13.10.20130712-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 10:05 |
| sil2100 | dednick: re-running didn't help... do you know maybe what could be wrong? | 10:05 |
| dednick | sil2100: not really. if you look at the failure output, the expected and actual values are the same. | 10:07 |
| dednick | sil2100: new version of gtest? | 10:09 |
| sil2100 | dednick: most probably | 10:10 |
| mhr3 | sil2100, there's special template for comparing doubles, i guess it's not used though it should be | 10:13 |
| mhr3 | doubles are rarely equal | 10:13 |
| sil2100 | mhr3: right, I think that needs to be fixed, as by some 'lucky chance' it passed for armhf and amd64 ;) | 10:14 |
| sil2100 | dednick: hm, I checked and there seems to be no new gtest | 10:14 |
| sil2100 | I wonder why suddenly it stopped working | 10:14 |
| mhr3 | sil2100, btw any progress on the hud thing? | 10:15 |
| mhr3 | i suppose dist-upgrade wanting to remove ubuntu-touch is not a good thing | 10:23 |
| dednick_ | sil2100: all tests succeed for me | 10:29 |
| mhr3 | dednick_, it's EXPECT_EQ() on doubles | 10:33 |
| mhr3 | eeek! | 10:33 |
| nic-doffay | Cimi, where can I get opacity values for the themes? | 10:38 |
| nic-doffay | or do you just set the whole colour? | 10:38 |
| nic-doffay | Cimi, and one thing else. Any idea how I can see the themes in action? | 10:41 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, colours are rgba | 10:41 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, to set theme | 10:41 |
| nic-doffay | Cimi, right so no separate alpha. | 10:41 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, in your main qml file | 10:41 |
| sil2100 | mhr3: didn't hear any info about that... | 10:41 |
| sil2100 | dednick_: hm, are you on i386? | 10:42 |
| Cimi | Component.onCompleted: Theme.name = "Ubuntu.Components.Themes.SuruGradient" | 10:42 |
| dednick_ | sil2100: 64 | 10:42 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, ^ | 10:42 |
| sil2100 | dednick_: it seems amd64 didn't have that problem | 10:42 |
| sil2100 | dednick_: maybe mhr3 is right and we should expect double values some differently | 10:42 |
| dednick_ | sil2100: possibly | 10:42 |
| sil2100 | dednick_: are you free right now to fix that, or busy and I should try that? :) | 10:43 |
| dednick_ | sil2100: not what i would say "free" | 10:44 |
| dednick_ | sil2100: you on 64 | 10:44 |
| dednick_ | or 32? | 10:44 |
| sil2100 | amd64 as well, sadly! | 10:44 |
| nic-doffay | Cimi, can you not bind it? | 10:45 |
| Saviq | mhr3, ubuntu-touch is being fixed now | 10:45 |
| Saviq | mhr3, or is fixed already, just needs to get published | 10:45 |
| Saviq | mhr3, but it shouldn't matter | 10:45 |
| mhr3 | Saviq, it also wanted to remove indicators | 10:46 |
| Saviq | mhr3, as it only gets removed because indicators-plugins* are integrated into unity8 | 10:46 |
| Saviq | mhr3, and the seed wasn't updated yet | 10:46 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, bind what? | 10:46 |
| mhr3 | Saviq, k, thx for update | 10:46 |
| Saviq | mhr3, indicators-plugins, not indicators themselves, right? | 10:46 |
| nic-doffay | Cimi, I just threw that code into The option selector and tried it out in the gallery. No change. | 10:47 |
| mhr3 | Saviq, indicator-client-plugin-* | 10:47 |
| Saviq | mhr3, yup, that's fine | 10:47 |
| nic-doffay | Cimi, the onCompleted | 10:47 |
| Saviq | mhr3, built into unity8 since yesterday | 10:47 |
| mhr3 | coolio | 10:48 |
| mhr3 | sil2100, i have 32bit chroot | 10:50 |
| dednick_ | sil2100: not sure why it's not working though. the values should be the same... | 10:51 |
| mhr3 | cause it's doubles | 10:51 |
| dednick_ | and? | 10:51 |
| mhr3 | :-O | 10:51 |
| dednick_ | 1.00201 != 1.00201 | 10:51 |
| mhr3 | printing a double truncates it | 10:52 |
| dednick_ | i've checked the code, they should be the same | 10:52 |
| mhr3 | the reality is that 1.0020100000001 != 1.0020100000003 | 10:52 |
| dednick_ | mhr3: it's not | 10:52 |
| dednick_ | sil2100: when did this stop working? | 10:54 |
| mhr3 | dednick_, you can never compare a double for equality, that's a cs fact | 10:54 |
| dednick_ | cs? | 10:55 |
| Saviq | computer science | 10:55 |
| dednick_ | (should_be_selected ? 1.0f : 0.9f) * progress != (should_be_selected ? 1.0f : 0.9f) * progress | 10:56 |
| mhr3 | damn, he got me | 10:56 |
| mhr3 | ok, in one case you can :P | 10:56 |
| mhr3 | i can't build unity | 10:57 |
| dednick_ | mhr3: saucy update | 10:57 |
| mhr3 | add_subdirectory given source "/usr/src/gmock" which is not an existing | 10:58 |
| mhr3 | directory. | 10:58 |
| dednick_ | mhr3: yeah. new gmock | 10:58 |
| mhr3 | upgrading then | 10:58 |
| dednick_ | mhr3: there probably should be a check for the version in the configure | 10:58 |
| dednick_ | i wonder if gtest is trunking one of the values going into the test equality function | 11:00 |
| sil2100 | dednick_: I only noticed it failing since like yesterday | 11:00 |
| dednick_ | damn. my laptop is burning. something keeps frying my cpu! | 11:01 |
| mhr3 | dednick_, hud! :) | 11:01 |
| dednick_ | mhr3: really? how do i kill it!? | 11:02 |
| sil2100 | killall hud-service | 11:03 |
| sil2100 | Try that! | 11:03 |
| sil2100 | SHOOT IT | 11:03 |
| dednick_ | process not found | 11:03 |
| mhr3 | pkill -f hud-service | 11:04 |
| dednick_ | killall unity | 11:04 |
| sil2100 | OHSHIT | 11:04 |
| sil2100 | ;) | 11:04 |
| mhr3 | sil2100, anyway, i don't think the hud fix is going to happen anytime soon, hud guys want unity to use the new interface and implementing that will take a while | 11:06 |
| sil2100 | mhr3: *sighs* - since if you say that all the unity AP failures are caused by the DBus issue that is caused by HUD, then hm, we seem to be blocked - just hope the problems are not 100% reproducible | 11:08 |
| mhr3 | sil2100, ehm, how do i run the unit tests these days? make check not make test doesnt' work | 11:12 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, in the main qml file | 11:13 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, you need updated packages | 11:13 |
| nic-doffay | Cimi, as of when? | 11:14 |
| Cimi | nic-doffay, today | 11:18 |
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| mhr3 | sil2100, nvm | 11:18 |
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| dandrader | Saviq, Have you seen something like that? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5867928/ | 12:15 |
| dandrader | ^ when running ./build | 12:15 |
| Saviq | dandrader, you need ppa:ubuntu-unity/next | 12:15 |
| Saviq | dandrader, https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/clean-build-scripts-coding/+merge/173847 | 12:15 |
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| * Saviq goes back home looking for power | 12:34 | |
| Saviq | biab | 12:34 |
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| jdstrand | Saviq: hi! thanks for the work on bug #1200437 | 12:50 |
| ubot5 | bug 1200437 in qtubuntu "startProcess reverses arguments from desktop files." [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1200437 | 12:50 |
| Saviq | jdstrand, cheers | 12:51 |
| jdstrand | Saviq: I haven't been able to test it yet because the files in output.zip and your directory don't seem to include the fix | 12:51 |
| Saviq | jdstrand, oh! | 12:51 |
| Saviq | jdstrand, that'd be very weird | 12:51 |
| Saviq | jdstrand, /me tests | 12:51 |
| jdstrand | Saviq: ie, it didn't work, so I read /usr/share/doc/qthybris/changelog.Debian.gz and it doesn't show your change | 12:52 |
| Saviq | jdstrand, I didn't add anything to the changelog, though | 12:52 |
| Saviq | jdstrand, we're relying on daily release to do it for us | 12:52 |
| jdstrand | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5867991/ | 12:52 |
| jdstrand | ah | 12:52 |
| Saviq | jdstrand, did you reboot after installing? | 12:52 |
| jdstrand | I did not reboot | 12:52 |
| Saviq | jdstrand, you at least needed to restart the shell | 12:52 |
| jdstrand | I guess I should do that? | 12:52 |
| jdstrand | I see | 12:53 |
| * jdstrand restart | 12:53 | |
| Saviq | jdstrand, yeah, it needs to pick up the new lib | 12:53 |
| jdstrand | ok, that makes sense. not sure why I didn't think of that :) | 12:53 |
| jdstrand | \o/ | 12:54 |
| jdstrand | it is working now :) | 12:54 |
| * jdstrand hugs Saviq | 12:54 | |
| Saviq | jdstrand, awesome | 12:54 |
| jdstrand | Saviq: the only trick is that the version in output.zip is the same as the one in saucy right now. when do you think saucy will have the fix? | 13:00 |
| dandrader | greyback, will Shell.qml and Stage.qml (specially the animations code) change much with unity8-mir or will it be essentially about having a new implementation of Ubuntu.Applicaion module | 13:00 |
| greyback | dandrader: I've a refactoring branch, which just isolates the WM code out of a shell into a more testable condition. I need to update that and figure out why some of the tests failed | 13:01 |
| greyback | dandrader: the plan has been to limit the amount of changes in unity8, so will still be grabbing screenshot from Mir and animating that - not the surface itself. The new AppManager will need a few code changes, but nothing major. I'm hoping there'll not be too many changes | 13:03 |
| Saviq | jdstrand, as soon as it's approved / merged / released | 13:03 |
| dandrader | greyback, ok. do you mind if I take that bug from you? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/1116207 I'm idle at the moment | 13:10 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1116207 in Unity 8 "[right edge swipe] Right edge does not respond if there are no running apps" [Medium,Confirmed] | 13:10 |
| greyback | dandrader: go for it | 13:10 |
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| jdstrand | Saviq: oh, can you paste the apparmor denials somewhere? | 13:19 |
| Saviq | jdstrand, I did, let me scroll up | 13:19 |
| jdstrand | ah, missed that | 13:19 |
| Saviq | jdstrand, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5866645/ | 13:20 |
| Saviq | jdstrand, that's maguro, btw | 13:20 |
| jdstrand | thanks! :) | 13:20 |
| jdstrand | I'll get that adjusted in our policy | 13:20 |
| Saviq | cheers | 13:20 |
| seb128 | Saviq, dednick: hey, do you know what's the status of using the real indicators in unity8/ubuntu touch? | 13:26 |
| seb128 | Saviq, dednick: we had a couple ported to gmenu in saucy but I think we still don't use them on touch? what is blocking? | 13:27 |
| Saviq | dednick, I'll leave that to you ↑ | 13:27 |
| dednick | seb128: i believe they don't have phone profiles yet. at the moment i think they're only supportted on desktop | 13:30 |
| seb128 | dednick, is the unity side ready? | 13:30 |
| seb128 | dednick, larsu said they didn't have phone profile because nobody asked for those profiles yet | 13:30 |
| dednick | seb128: unity8? | 13:30 |
| dednick | seb128: i've asked for them. | 13:30 |
| dednick | maybe i dont count | 13:30 |
| seb128 | dednick, is the only piece missing to use them on the touch image the phone profile? | 13:30 |
| seb128 | dednick, where did you ask? | 13:31 |
| dednick | indicator status meeting | 13:31 |
| dednick | seb128: indicator status meeting | 13:33 |
| seb128 | dednick, sorry, my session closed | 13:33 |
| seb128 | dednick, ok ... so is everything ready on the unity8 side? (e.g if we can an indicator exporting a phone profile we can use it on unity8)? | 13:34 |
| seb128 | dednick, can you open a bug on launchpad about what you need? that's easier to track | 13:34 |
| dednick | seb128: yep, should be good to go when we have them. | 13:35 |
| seb128 | excellent | 13:35 |
| seb128 | how can I test that? | 13:35 |
| seb128 | just running an indicator with a phone profile on the current touch image should work? | 13:35 |
| greyback | kgunn: lol | 13:40 |
| kgunn | greyback: are you running xmir ? | 13:49 |
| greyback | kgunn: yes | 13:49 |
| kgunn | did you pin the ppa ? if so, can you dist-upgrade and see if it tries to remove/uninstall lightdm/u-s-c | 13:50 |
| kgunn | (assuming you haven't dist-upgraded today) | 13:50 |
| greyback | kgunn: yep I pinned the PPA. Ok, trying... | 13:51 |
| om26er | mhr3, ping | 13:51 |
| * kgunn hopes i have some latent apt-cache issue... | 13:52 | |
| mhr3 | om26er, pong | 13:53 |
| om26er | mhr3, after searching in the dash I see installed scopes along with apps: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/143920097/t.png | 13:54 |
| om26er | mhr3, I am hoping its something for scopes team (?) | 13:54 |
| mhr3 | om26er, like on desktop, yes | 13:55 |
| om26er | mhr3, they are appearing alongside installed apps, which looks wrong | 13:56 |
| om26er | mhr3, is that expected ? | 13:56 |
| mhr3 | atm, yes | 13:57 |
| greyback | kgunn: u-s-c is being kept back. lightdm untouched | 14:00 |
| kgunn | greyback: well good...so it didn't remove either in your case....just a failure to update u-s-c | 14:01 |
| kgunn | ? | 14:01 |
| greyback | kgunn: yep | 14:01 |
| kgunn | greyback: f me....why did it uninstall mine? | 14:03 |
| kgunn | anyone know of a way to clear apt cache just in case something lurking in there? | 14:03 |
| kgunn | ....oh....nvmd....i think i know | 14:03 |
| kgunn | greyback: thank you for the interruption.... | 14:04 |
| greyback | kgunn: I'm really not sure how that could've happened. The pin priority is 1002, which should be the highest | 14:04 |
| greyback | does it let you re-install lightdm? What lightdm package is it? | 14:05 |
| kgunn | greyback: no...it does the lightdm depends on u-s-c, but can't install u-s-c cause of libmirserver version | 14:05 |
| kgunn | the classic broken package... | 14:05 |
| greyback | yay :( | 14:05 |
| kgunn | kgunn: so its good /bad.....it is broken....but i bet for people already running xmir ( & for most non-stupid people, e.g. !kgunn) then it will just whine | 14:07 |
| kgunn | but keep working | 14:07 |
| greyback | kgunn: 0.0.6bzr848saucy0 is what I'm installing now with the dist-upgrade | 14:07 |
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| greyback | ah kgunn syndrome, yet I get that sometimes :) | 14:07 |
| kgunn | greyback: well..it really sucks when you have it 24/7 ; ) | 14:08 |
| greyback | chronic kgunn, whoa nasty. Gotta be drugs for that | 14:08 |
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| Saviq | kgunn, greyback having fun here, eh? go back to work! | 15:08 |
| kgunn | Saviq: yes...sorry....no more fun | 15:09 |
| Saviq | :) | 15:09 |
| greyback | Saviq: but it's Friiiddaaay | 15:10 |
| * Saviq always wondered why Friday is called thus... /me never had a free day on Friday | 15:11 | |
| didrocks | JohnLea: I'm afraid I won't have the time in the forseable future for this enhancement TBH | 15:12 |
| didrocks | JohnLea: my personal load average is 3,02, 2,35, 2,85 ;) | 15:13 |
| JohnLea | didrocks; no worries, it's not essential because we are already making that differentiation by looking at which bugs are assigned to designers and which are not | 15:19 |
| JohnLea | didrocks; it only cleans up something we are doing already, so is non-essential | 15:19 |
| didrocks | ok | 15:19 |
| JohnLea | didrocks; will you be in IOM for sprint? | 15:19 |
| didrocks | JohnLea: yep, maybe between 2 meetings, we can have a look :) | 15:19 |
| JohnLea | didrocks; no, would be good to see you and grab a beer, that's all ;-) | 15:20 |
| JohnLea | didrocks; it depends if the power stays on this time as well, at the last sprint there we were having power cuts! | 15:20 |
| didrocks | JohnLea: that will make all that… interesting! ;) | 15:21 |
| didrocks | JohnLea: will be good to see you too! | 15:22 |
| JohnLea | didrocks; well have a good weekend, speak soon! | 15:22 |
| didrocks | JohnLea: thanks, you too! | 15:22 |
| Saviq | o/ o| o/ guys | 15:25 |
| Saviq | have a great weekend! | 15:25 |
| dednick | Saviq: cya | 15:26 |
| dednick | Saviq: have a good weekend | 15:26 |
| MacSlow | saviq_ happy weekend-time | 15:32 |
| sil2100 | dednick: btw. since I probably missed something... were you able to resolve the failing unit test on i386 for unity? | 15:38 |
| sil2100 | *unit tests | 15:38 |
| dednick | sil2100: mhr3 is your man, but i believe so | 15:49 |
| mhr3 | sil2100, Trevinho was on that | 15:50 |
| sil2100 | :D | 15:50 |
| * sil2100 waits until Trevinho points him to andyrock or someone else | 15:51 | |
| sil2100 | ;) | 15:51 |
| sil2100 | Trevinho: any luck? | 15:51 |
| mhr3 | it's pretty simple fix though | 15:51 |
| Trevinho | andyrock: ^ | 15:51 |
| Trevinho | bschaefer: ^ | 15:51 |
| sil2100 | ;) | 15:51 |
| * bschaefer wonders whats going ong | 15:51 | |
| * Trevinho ping jocking... :D | 15:51 | |
| Trevinho | bschaefer: nothing... Just a ping ^_^ | 15:51 |
| bschaefer | well hello :) | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | bschaefer: hi! :) | 15:52 |
| bregma | bschaefer, it's just a finger-pointing circle thing | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | ping proxy I wanted to write.. but "proxy" got lost | 15:52 |
| bschaefer | haha, well Ill stop the cycle! | 15:52 |
| bschaefer | bschaefer, ping | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | Nooo... deadlock! | 15:52 |
| bschaefer | haha | 15:53 |
| Trevinho | sil2100: Im with you now... Let me read backlog :) | 15:53 |
| sil2100 | Trevinho: it's about the unit-tests failing for i386 related to double values ;) | 15:56 |
| sil2100 | Trevinho: any progress? | 15:56 |
| sil2100 | Since it causes FTBFS and blockage of the unity stackz | 15:56 |
| Trevinho | sil2100: ah, ok... I'll fix it in a branch is coming with other tests as well | 15:57 |
| Trevinho | sil2100: how much time do I have? :) | 15:57 |
| mhr3 | 175 seconds :P | 15:57 |
| sil2100 | Trevinho: I think there's no haste anymore, Friday releases are a bad idea ;p | 15:58 |
| sil2100 | I understood that with seb128 some time ago when publishing of indicators on a Friday afternoon caused a nasty regression | 15:58 |
| * sil2100 makes no more Friday afternoon releases | 15:58 | |
| Trevinho | ah I see.. I didn't notice it was blocking something important (and I saw builds ok in builders) | 15:59 |
| Trevinho | sil2100: didrocks teached you his story? :) | 15:59 |
| sil2100 | Trevinho: the problem is that it's ok for armhf and amd64, but fails for i386 o_O | 15:59 |
| * didrocks looks at his scarves | 16:00 | |
| didrocks | scares* even | 16:00 |
| sil2100 | Trevinho: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/144774686/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-i386.unity_7.0.2%2B13.10.20130712-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 16:00 |
| Trevinho | sil2100: yeah, I was already on that link | 16:02 |
| sil2100 | \o/ | 16:02 |
| sil2100 | Trevinho: so, no hurry, but thanks for working on that ;) | 16:03 |
| Trevinho | sil2100: I can do one-line fixes :) | 16:06 |
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| * greyback eow | 16:36 | |
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| slangasek | ok, so I'm trying to fix bug #1193120 | 19:22 |
| ubot5 | bug 1193120 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity-common is not common" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1193120 | 19:22 |
| slangasek | but rebuilding the package that's currently in saucy is failing | 19:22 |
| slangasek | make[5]: *** No rule to make target `../tests/test-gtest-xless', needed by `tests/CMakeFiles/check-headless'. Stop. | 19:22 |
| slangasek | does someone know what's going wrong here? | 19:22 |
| gotwig | hey there | 20:04 |
| gotwig | why is it C for Scope programming? | 20:04 |
| gotwig | what is wrong with Vala and C++ ? | 20:04 |
| gotwig | why c.... | 20:16 |
| gotwig | why | 20:16 |
| bschaefer | gotwig, ... whats wrong with C? | 20:19 |
| bschaefer | slangasek, hmm my test-gtest-xless seems to have compiled fine | 20:20 |
| bschaefer | though in a make-check i've failing on test-unit...which Trevinho has a branch im reviewing which should fix that... | 20:21 |
| bschaefer | and make-headless seems to be working as well | 20:22 |
| Trevinho | bschaefer: make check-headless :) | 20:22 |
| bschaefer | yeah that one :) | 20:22 |
| * bschaefer type-o-ed | 20:23 | |
| gotwig | bschaefer: what is wrong with C++ and Vala... | 20:29 |
| gotwig | bschaefer: programming via C is not the modern approach for programming nowadays. | 20:29 |
| bschaefer | gotwig, we could be at this all day :) | 20:29 |
| gotwig | bschaefer: why C , seriously | 20:29 |
| bschaefer | gotwig, theres nothing wrong with either choice, but theres also nothing wrong with C, and C works very well | 20:30 |
| gotwig | bschaefer: why have you choosen C as the main language for scopes | 20:30 |
| * bschaefer did not choose anything | 20:31 | |
| gotwig | Warum habt ihr C genommen | 20:31 |
| Trevinho | Vala is awesome, but it's also unstable and has missing features... C++11 is fantastic as well, modern and a allows to code quickly and powerfully! | 20:31 |
| gotwig | because the english language is too bad to distinguish | 20:31 |
| gotwig | Trevinho: wait... missing features? Do you compare Vala now with C or... what? | 20:31 |
| gotwig | once, unity scopes were written in Python, than Vala. Why now C? Why not C++? | 20:32 |
| bschaefer | python was to slow, i remember that switch | 20:32 |
| gotwig | I cant look at this c code... | 20:33 |
| gotwig | I began to programm with C... but this hardcore stuff is simply too much for C | 20:33 |
| bschaefer | learn C :), its a good language to know | 20:33 |
| gotwig | why can noone say me why there was choosen C | 20:33 |
| bschaefer | well im not sure who made that choice, im just simply saying that C is not a bad language | 20:34 |
| gotwig | in the end, Vala is C ABI compatible, so this shouldnt be an issue... | 20:34 |
| gotwig | I want to program with objects.. not with old prodedural stuff | 20:35 |
| bschaefer | gotwig, you can think of structs as object :) | 20:35 |
| bschaefer | objects* | 20:35 |
| gotwig | if you mean this seriously.... | 20:36 |
| gotwig | well, you must be kidding. | 20:36 |
| gotwig | maybe they choose C | 20:37 |
| gotwig | because its so simple | 20:37 |
| Trevinho | I didn't check the code, but writing a vapi is quite easy generally | 20:37 |
| bschaefer | no... not really, its the same thing, not the same syntax sugar, mix some function pointers and variables and you've got a class representation | 20:37 |
| bschaefer | C is simple, expressive and fast | 20:38 |
| gotwig | there is a reason why C++ is not just a C extension lol | 20:39 |
| gotwig | so, is there no real reason why we have to use C for our scopes? | 20:54 |
| bschaefer | gotwig, probably the simplest answer is speed | 21:05 |
| gotwig | bschaefer: to what | 21:05 |
| gotwig | I dont understand | 21:05 |
| bschaefer | the reason to use C | 21:05 |
| gotwig | in contrast to what | 21:06 |
| gotwig | I like to see Vala support.. | 21:06 |
| gotwig | or something object orianted programming | 21:07 |
| bschaefer | yeah, but if you're going for raw speed, C is still the best choice | 21:07 |
| gotwig | bschaefer: this cant be an argument | 21:14 |
| bschaefer | gotwig, whats wrong with that argument? | 21:15 |
| gotwig | bschaefer: I mean... nowadays we dont really care about speed, that much. Vala produces very fast code, as well as C++ code is fast | 21:16 |
| bschaefer | gotwig, the scopes need to be fast, when you are dealing with 100 scopes... its needs to be as fast as possible... | 21:16 |
| bschaefer | (i know its not 100 but still) | 21:16 |
| gotwig | C++ should still be good enough, as well as vala | 21:17 |
| bschaefer | theres a reason why they went from python -> vala -> C, again im guessing speed was one of those reason but im not sure :) | 21:17 |
| bschaefer | and yes vala and C++ both produce fast code, but C is still faster :) | 21:19 |
| slangasek | bschaefer: well, it didn't compile at all here. So how should I debug this? | 21:22 |
| bschaefer | slangasek, hmm you're on trunk, updated, and on saucy? | 21:22 |
| bschaefer | urg..something in my X just blew up.. rebooting | 21:23 |
| slangasek | bschaefer: I'm on the current version of the package in the saucy archive. *trunk* fails to build because it depends on a version of libunity that doesn't exist in the archive. | 21:25 |
| slangasek | bschaefer: I'm on the current version of the package in the saucy archive. *trunk* fails to build because it depends on a version of libunity that doesn't exist in the archive. | 21:25 |
| bschaefer | oo | 21:26 |
| bschaefer | slangasek, yeah, you have to compile it yourself atm... | 21:26 |
| bschaefer | at lease im having to | 21:26 |
| slangasek | yeah, I don't want to do that | 21:26 |
| bschaefer | :(, I don't think its landed in main atm | 21:26 |
| slangasek | I want to rebuild the package in the archive, which is something that should always work | 21:26 |
| bschaefer | and another problem is libunity needs to be compiled with .18, but its using 0.20 atm | 21:26 |
| bschaefer | yes it should | 21:26 |
| bschaefer | needs to be compiled with vala 0.18* | 21:27 |
| slangasek | well | 21:28 |
| slangasek | if nobody knows why the build is failing, I could just apply my patch and push to saucy | 21:28 |
| slangasek | and hope it builds | 21:28 |
| slangasek | but I'd rather not do that :P | 21:28 |
| bschaefer | so right now lp:unity cannot build with the archive...annnd that really should get fixed... | 21:28 |
| bschaefer | cause there is the wrong version of libunity in main, and libunity isn't building cause its using vala 0.20 | 21:29 |
| bschaefer | which for some reason needs 0.18 to compile atm... | 21:29 |
| bschaefer | the only way im getting unity to compile atm is compiling/installing libunity my self | 21:30 |
| slangasek | ok, so is somebody responsible for fixing this? | 21:30 |
| bschaefer | i would hope its being addressed... but everyone is gone for the day that deals with that, as far as I know... | 21:31 |
| bschaefer | im just a unity dev :( | 21:31 |
| slangasek | yeah, it is rather late in the weekend ;) | 21:31 |
| slangasek | "just a unity dev" - er, but who's responsible for this, if not the unity devs? | 21:31 |
| bschaefer | well I don't really touch packages that land in main | 21:32 |
| bschaefer | i would think didrocks or sil2100 or seb would know more about it... | 21:33 |
| bschaefer | but they are all EOD...so this hopefully will be fix come monday... | 21:33 |
| bschaefer | fixed* | 21:34 |
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| slangasek | bschaefer: apparently this is bug #1185265, fixed in trunk. | 22:07 |
| ubot5 | bug 1185265 in Compiz "please stop shipping pre-build google-mock, instead all reverse-depends should compile their own google-mock" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1185265 | 22:07 |
| bschaefer | slangasek, yes, compiz still needs to get fixed... which might be blocking things? | 22:09 |
| slangasek | I have no idea if that would be blocking something | 22:09 |
| slangasek | but that bug is fixed in trunk, not in saucy | 22:09 |
| bschaefer | neither would I... the only problem I get when trying to build unity from archive is the libunity problem :( | 22:10 |
| bschaefer | oo yeah, you are patching unity...so you'll still run into that... | 22:11 |
| slangasek | you probably have an out of date version of google-mock installed, then; the new one was uploaded July 4 | 22:11 |
| bschaefer | well I have the new version...but you don't have the unity fix for it | 22:12 |
| bschaefer | if you are patching unity from archive | 22:12 |
| bschaefer | im using trunk unity to build thing... | 22:13 |
| bschaefer | the last entry in my change log: -- Didier Roche <didrocks@ubuntu.com> Thu, 04 Jul 2013 09:54:08 +0200 | 22:14 |
| slangasek | ah. you said 'build unity from archive' | 22:19 |
| slangasek | which certainly would have gmock incompatibilities | 22:19 |
| bschaefer | opps sorry, ment when I try building from trunk | 22:20 |
| slangasek | right :) | 22:20 |
| mhall119 | Saviq: did you ever get a chance to look at that unity performance complaint I had | 23:33 |
| mhall119 | ? | 23:33 |
| mhall119 | because it's really bad now | 23:33 |
| mhall119 | Saviq: http://ubuntuone.com/0qP1aYKqdDR8Da6q9qMtZ7 | 23:36 |
| mhall119 | that's with no apps open and the screen off | 23:36 |
| mhall119 | it can barely manage to charge it's using so much power | 23:37 |
| mhall119 | but it's fine after a reboot | 23:39 |
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