[04:16] <dbolton> When I try to install WINE on Ubuntu Studio 13.04 it says a bunch of programs will be removed, including jackd1, jackd1-firewire, libfluidsynth-dev, libjack-dev, libjack0
[04:17] <dbolton> Does this mean if I install WINE I can't use JACK or FluidSynth?
[04:19] <dbolton> According to Google only one other person has received a similar error message: https://www.facebook.com/nohimsithuwili/posts/227055247423213
[04:35] <holstein> dbolton: i dont use wine
[04:35] <holstein> dbolton: and, i havent tried in 13.04 at all.. since, it doesnt ship by default, i havent tested it
[04:36] <holstein> dbolton: what exactly are you installing? and how?
[04:37] <dbolton> holstein: The impetus for installing WINE was viena (a soundfont editor)
[04:37] <dbolton> holstein: but I'm sure there's others.
[04:37] <holstein> i would as what they are using in #opensourcemusicians
[04:38] <holstein> i know we have native tools for that
[04:39] <dbolton> holstein: It was the recommended program in some post on Ardour (and I was already familiar with it from Windows). Apparently it works well under wine.
[04:39] <holstein> dbolton: then, how are you trying to install what exactly?
[04:39] <holstein> have you tried any --no-recommends options?
[04:40] <dbolton> holstein: I went to Ubuntu Software Center and clicked install for Wine Windows Program Loader
[04:40] <holstein> dbolton: so, try in the command line....
[04:40] <holstein> try with the no recommends option
[04:40] <holstein> i dont have 13.04 running here, so i cant try and break it to help you
[04:41] <holstein> theres a PPA version you can try https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa
[12:12] <Aethysius> Hi, I have some questions; Ubuntu Studio isn't installing for me.
[13:08] <Lump|AFK> Aethysius, i may be able to help you but could you be a bit more specific please?
[13:09] <Aethysius> Sorry for being so vague.
[13:10] <Lump|AFK> how are you trying to install it?
[13:10] <Lump|AFK> from CD, USB etc
[13:10] <Aethysius> I've tried both USB and DVD.
[13:10] <Lump|AFK> no worries about vague
[13:10] <Lump|AFK> i can be real stupid about things at times myself
[13:10] <Aethysius> Same error.
[13:11] <Lump|AFK> have you checked the disk, usb for errors?
[13:11] <Lump|AFK> if not start there and make sure you have a good iso
[13:11] <Aethysius> I'm not in front of that computer, so I can't tell you the error it throws up.
[13:11] <Lump|AFK> also what version are you trying to install
[13:11] <Aethysius> 13.04.
[13:11] <Lump|AFK> are you far from the computer?
[13:11] <Aethysius> Quite a bit.
[13:12] <Aethysius> I'm not at home.
[13:12] <Lump|AFK> have you checked the DVD for errors?
[13:12] <Aethysius> Yes.
[13:12] <Lump|AFK> and were there any?
[13:13] <Lump|AFK> specificaly on the DVD not on attempting to install
[13:13] <Aethysius> Nope, and the USB was fine too. I might just have a bad iso.
[13:13] <Lump|AFK> that is what the error check is /supposed/ to check
[13:14] <Lump|AFK> do you recall what the error install was?
[13:14] <Lump|AFK> or was it just a number code
[13:16] <Aethysius> id something 5, when actually trying to install.
[13:18] <Lump|AFK> and i am assuming you are using the wubi to install and not the alternate
[13:18] <Aethysius> It said the CD drive might be bad, or the comp might be too hot.
[13:18] <Aethysius> The GUI? Yeah.
[13:19] <Lump|AFK> it shouldn't tell you the CD is bad from USB
[13:20] <Lump|AFK> so, for the moment, since you are away from the PC
[13:20] <Aethysius> It does though. It's the same error message.
[13:20] <Lump|AFK> let us ASSUME your PC is too hot
[13:20] <Lump|AFK> again we are just assuming for now
[13:20] <Aethysius> Yeah, it just might be.
[13:20] <Lump|AFK> if you PC is over heating, it is likely dirty
[13:20] <Aethysius> It isn't though.
[13:20] <Lump|AFK> when is the last time you opened up the case and cleaned out all the dust and dirt?
[13:21] <Aethysius> I've only had it since April.
[13:21] <Lump|AFK> is it a tower
[13:21] <Aethysius> Yes.
[13:21] <Lump|AFK> is it sitting on the floor?
[13:21] <Aethysius> No.
[13:21] <Lump|AFK> kk
[13:21] <Lump|AFK> have you actually looked inside the case
[13:21] <Lump|AFK> if your house is dusty, like mine
[13:22] <Lump|AFK> it can suck in a lot of dust in a short amount of time
[13:22] <Aethysius> I haven't. I'll be moving today, so I guess I can check at some point.
[13:22] <Lump|AFK> what i would suggest, especially since you are not near the machine at the moment
[13:22] <Lump|AFK> is check that when you get home
[13:22] <Lump|AFK> and get back with us here
[13:23] <Aethysius> Alright.
[13:23] <Lump|AFK> you may be shocked by what you see as far as dust
[13:23] <Lump|AFK> i have two cats, one dog and live in a loft above a warehouse
[13:23] <Aethysius> I'm going to DL a new iso as well.
[13:23] <Aethysius> The temperature isn't that high, though.
[13:23] <Lump|AFK> it only takes a few weeks for dust to build up on the filters i put over the air intakes on my towers
[13:24] <Lump|AFK> i dunno
[13:24] <Lump|AFK> it is had to say with out you in front of the machine
[13:24] <Aethysius> True.
[13:24] <Lump|AFK> i lurk here pretty often so hail us here and we shall see
[13:25] <Lump|AFK> but, for now, I must get back in  line with my nick
[13:25] <Lump|AFK> ttyl and good luck
[13:25] <Aethysius> I've been using Kubuntu, and in trying to install US, I fucked up my install of Kubuntu.
[13:25] <Lump|AFK> also, you might want to DL the 12.04 LTS iso
[13:25] <Aethysius> Ah, okay.
[13:26] <Lump|AFK> it would give you another option and it is going to be supported longer
[13:26] <Aethysius> True.
[13:26] <Lump|AFK> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[13:27] <Lump|AFK> and if you are using K for resource reasons, you might want to think about xfce
[13:28] <Lump|AFK> ntl, i gotta scoot for now
[13:28] <Lump|AFK> ttyl
[21:50] <rayo1> hi
[22:04] <rayo1> hi
[22:05] <Unit193> Howdy.
[22:05] <rayo1> my soundcard is not supported for linux
[22:06] <rayo1> no drivers
[22:20] <SunStar> what card is it? (if all else fails, there are some really nice USB sound cards and internal soundcards at a good price)
[22:31] <holstein> lol.. its just a general statement, i suppose