[01:23] <utusan> I replaced gst0 with gst1 and kde was removed.  Any reason why?
[01:33] <utusan> I find it odd that kde should depend on gst, and if it's a kubuntu thing then might as well depend on the newer gst1.
[02:47] <manchicken> Howdy all
[03:10] <ScottK> Howdy manchicken.
[03:10] <manchicken> This is fun... Activities switcher seems to think my Code activity is still paused, even though it isn't.
[03:22] <manchicken> Rebooting
[03:36] <manchicken> That's better.
[04:01] <manchicken> This is fun...
[04:14] <manchicken> Now I get to figure out why my program is mysteriously closign.
[04:29] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1194501] [ 4.8 Linaro regression] ICE on gcc-4.8 building kde4libs @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1194501 (by Scott Kitterman)
[05:12] <Noskcaj> Can someone take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/plasma-widget-quickaccess/upstream-merge/+merge/174529
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[07:40] <Riddell> skellat: so you're considering XMir?
[07:40] <Riddell> but not thrilled by it
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[08:31] <dmitryK> hi! I need some help with backporting a package. I created a recipe based on lp:ubuntu/raring/vc. The build of the package starts but the uploading to my ppa fails ;( Could you tell me what do I do wrong? https://code.launchpad.net/~dimula73/+recipe/vc-daily
[08:37] <Noskcaj> dmitryK, so you're just making another vlc ppa? I suggest you run lintian and test the installer locally first, if you've not already
[08:39] <dmitryK> Noskcaj: no, this is 'vc' library for sse/avx optimizations. It is not present in quantal/precise. And I need this library for daily builds of Krita application
[08:39] <Noskcaj> ok, i'm lost already. wait for one of the people with more than a day in packaging experience
[08:40] <dmitryK> Noskcaj: previously, this library was present in project-neon, but they dropped the support of precise/quantal a couple of days ago ;(
[08:41] <dmitryK> I guess this is some launchpad bug/feature, because I previously had a copy of a vc package there. Probably it is not deleted somehow.
[08:49] <yofel> dmitryK: INFO 	File vc_0.7.0-0~4~precise1.debian.tar.gz already exists in Krita Lime, but uploaded version has different contents. See more information about this error in https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors.
[08:49] <yofel> you need to put the import branch revision or the date into the version, so there's never 2 builds with the same filename
[08:50] <dmitryK> yofel: but I don't have any src packages in the ppa
[08:51] <yofel> dmitryK: did you have one recently? does https://code.launchpad.net/~dimula73/+archive/krita/+delete-packages still list one?
[08:52] <dmitryK> yofel: yes, I had one, but the list doesn't show it anymore.
[08:52] <dmitryK> yofel: ok, I'll try to add a date
[08:52] <yofel> hm... maybe the janitor didn't yet clean it up :/
[08:52] <dmitryK> probably
[08:57] <dmitryK> yofel: where can I find the rules of the package naming? The format of the package in the recipe of project-neon is different form the default one... Or I can create any name I want?
[09:02] <dmitryK> or at least some guidelines?
[09:06] <Riddell> hmm, I was just sitting next to the guy who coded vc into krita
[09:08] <Riddell> dmitryK: did you get it working?
[09:08] <Riddell> (we're at akademy so going in and out of things)
[09:12] <Noskcaj> can someone look at https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/sflphone/merge-1.2.3-2 and https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/midori/upstream0.5.2
[09:13] <Noskcaj> I probably screwed up on those two, but there's hope
[09:14] <Noskcaj> also, https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/plasma-widget-quickaccess/upstream-merge which is done right, i think (i don't have kubuntu) 
[09:14] <Noskcaj> but is from some random rather than the original package maker
[09:16] <Riddell> valorie: ingwa would like to know about busses
[09:17] <Riddell> Noskcaj: cool!
[09:20] <yofel> dmitryK: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/SourceBuilds/Recipes#Specifying_revisions
[09:21] <dmitryK> yofel: thanks!
[09:21] <dmitryK> Riddell: Sven? ;)
[09:22] <Noskcaj> Riddell, I'll have a new version of nootka uploaded tomorrow morning. It's got 6 new dependencies though (4 upstream, 2 debian)
[09:23] <dmitryK> Riddell: yep, I just added a date to the package name and it uploads now. Now i'm going to read the naming guidelines to make it somehow consistent
[09:24] <dmitryK> yofel: thanks for the help, it builds and uploads now! :)
[09:27] <Riddell> Noskcaj: where is plasma-widget-quickaccess 0.8.2 to download?
[09:29] <shadeslayer> yofel: zing
[09:29] <shadeslayer> yofel: zing
[09:29] <shadeslayer> yofel: zing
[09:32] <Noskcaj> Riddell, the original (0.8.2-2) is on kde-look. the -2 is from the guy who attempted to take over maintenance. i'll find the link now
[09:32] <Riddell> Noskcaj:  http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/QuickAccess+for+KDE+SC+4.5+?content=134442  ?
[09:33] <Noskcaj> yep
[09:33] <Noskcaj> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=134442 is a nicer link though ;)
[09:34] <Riddell> hmm, doesn't fill me with confidence "First of all: I have no - I repeat NO - skills in coding."
[09:37] <Noskcaj> Riddell, no, but from what i understand, it was copying from another thing and it's came out stable. I recommend you check before merging though
[09:38] <Riddell> Noskcaj: just on terminology it's an update not a merge, nothing being taken from debian
[09:39] <Noskcaj> I was wondering what the definition was, thanks
[09:40] <Noskcaj> now if only sbuild would take less than an hour to setup
[09:44] <Riddell> Noskcaj: mm this quickaccess 0.8.2-2 is mostly just commenting out the dolphin sorting bits which we already have a patch to fix rather than comment out
[09:56] <Riddell> Noskcaj: midori and sflphone are not really our area, have you asked in #ubuntu-desktop ?
[09:57] <Noskcaj> no, i was going to sort that out either tomorrow or when the MOTUs get to it. although they were down as kubuntu
[09:59] <Noskcaj> and for the quickaccess plugin, i'll have a look at getting the stock 0.8.2 sometime soon
[09:59] <Riddell> thanks
[10:06] <Noskcaj> Riddell, should bug 1152698 be invalid as no 0.8.2 seems to exist
[10:06] <ubottu> bug 1152698 in plasma-widget-quickaccess (Ubuntu) "update to version 0.8.2" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1152698
[10:19] <Riddell> NickNak: mm yeah I guess so
[10:20] <Riddell> oh he left
[11:29] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:21] <shadeslayer> :S
[14:22] <shadeslayer> yofel: my net is broken, I can ping the network gateway but can't open a site 
[14:22] <yofel> shadeslayer: o.O
[14:22] <yofel> shadeslayer: dns?
[14:22] <shadeslayer> Google public dns 
[14:24] <shadeslayer> yofel: can you ping 10.227.70.241
[14:25] <yofel> shadeslayer: 64 bytes from 10.227.70.241: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=39.7 ms
[14:25] <shadeslayer> huh 
=== yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.95 saucy/script |4.10.90 saucy/archive, raring/beta, quantal/staging WIP | 4.10.5 raring/queue | 13.10 Alpha 1 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj
[14:38] <Riddell> yofel: topicdiff?
[14:38] <yofel> 4.10.95
[14:39] <Riddell> cor, I missed that entirely
[14:41] <yofel> not quite, the tarballs are up, but no mail yet
[14:42] <Riddell> been up since wednesday
[14:45] <yofel> hm
[14:47] <yofel> I'll continue stress testing the launchpad importers then instead
[14:57] <gstnet>  Hello, kwin-style-qtcuve and kde-window-manager in kde 4.11 beta are removing each other.. is that just a case of package not being avaialable yet?
[14:58] <Riddell> gstnet: on saucy?
[14:58] <gstnet> on raring, from beta  ppa
[15:05] <Riddell> gstnet: hmm yes
[15:06] <gstnet> oh, so it is not only me. good..i thought i messed something up
[15:14] <Riddell> gstnet: recompiling to see if that helps
[15:15] <gstnet> Thank you
[15:21] <BluesKaj> will the alternate install will be available for 13.10 when the release is official ?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> oops wrong chan
[15:24] <Riddell> yofel: ah I see albert's e-mail now Subject: [kde-packager] Delaying 4.11 RC1 a bit
[15:28] <Riddell> gstnet: debian added the breaks http://paste.kde.org/p0a2def56/
[15:31] <Riddell> hum, but not sure why
[15:32] <gstnet> ok, so somoene did it on purpose, so eventally will be resolved
[15:34] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you alive?
[15:34] <shadeslayer> kinda
[15:34] <shadeslayer> filesystem crapped out
[15:35] <shadeslayer> was trying to get the computer back up again for the last 40 minutes
[16:01] <Riddell> gstnet: kde-style-qtcurve_1.8.14-3ubuntu3~ubuntu13.04~ppa1 uploaded to kubuntu-ppa/beta should be compiled in a bit
[16:02] <gstnet> did you just edit control to remove that "breaks"
[16:02] <Riddell> gstnet: no I updated to that newer version which doesn't get caught in the breaks
[16:03] <gstnet> ahh, sweet thank you.. 
[16:04] <gstnet> i just faked it here.. edited control and installed both packages and it worked.. but it will be nice to have new, proper version
[16:26] <Riddell> yofel, shadeslayer, anyone: food?
[16:27] <yofel> Riddell: sure, where are you?
[16:28] <Riddell> yofel: I'm at the front of the main lecture theatre
[16:29] <yofel> Riddell: ok, we're still inside, coming out in a bit
[16:35] <yofel> Riddell: where exactly are you again?
[16:37] <Riddell> yofel: front of lecture theatre
[16:37] <Riddell> the main one
[16:47] <Riddell> yofel: I'm giving up on you and going away with others
[16:55] <yofel> Riddell: we didn't find you so we're now following d_ed into town. See you at the party later
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[19:48] <lordievader> Good evening.
[23:09] <Noskcaj> I've uploaded a new version of nootka, what branch should i request to merge into?
[23:10] <Riddell> Noskcaj: uploaded to where?
[23:10] <Noskcaj> My own branch
[23:11] <Riddell> Noskcaj: I'd prefer a bug report with the diff -urN of the debian/ dir and the .orig .dsc and .debian.tar.gz
[23:11] <Noskcaj> ok? i've just gor a bzr branch. What do i do?
[23:12] <Noskcaj> And the branch is linked to a bug report
[23:15] <Riddell> Noskcaj: ok that'll do, e-mail it to kubuntu-devel
[23:15] <Riddell> I should get to it tomorrow
[23:15] <Noskcaj> ok
[23:23]  * Riddell publishes http://blogs.kde.org/2013/07/14/akademy-2013-day-1-photos
[23:23] <juancarlospaco> :)
[23:34] <manchicken> Does anybody else know QApt well?
[23:35] <manchicken> I'm having a hard time figuring out which signal to connect to for updateCache() calls.
[23:36] <manchicken> I thought that the QApt::Transaction::statusChanged(QApt::TransactionStatus) was the one to use, but that one doesn't seem to do anything when it's done.
[23:37] <manchicken> I've looked in the example and I'm not seeing what is being used for this.