[01:05] <bpotacon> hi has anyone installed on a razr m yet?
[01:08] <rsalveti> ogra_: popey: anything hold us from linking 20130712.2 to current?
[01:08] <bpotacon> anyone here???
[01:08] <rsalveti> *holding
[01:10] <bpotacon> has anyone successfully installed on a xt907 yet?
[01:29] <dejello> I am kind of here but not....  and I don't know
[01:30]  * dejello 
[01:30] <dejello> er
[01:50] <dejello> merp, still can't build
[03:26] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu for mobile phone | http://askubuntu.com/q/319495
[03:40] <unReal_> hello
[06:49] <sridher> Ubuntu.Components of MainView and Page are not compatible with Camera/VideoOutput. any fix ?
[07:23] <timppa> is there a bug with unity in latest build?
[07:23] <timppa> If the phone goes to "sleep" I'm not able to turn it on again from the power button
[07:23] <timppa> adb shell works ok
[07:24] <tassadar_> timppa: happens to me too on n7, probably a bug
[07:24] <timppa> ok, good to know
[07:24] <tassadar_> also, when I press the power button, it does not go to sleep but just to the "lockscreen"
[07:25] <timppa> on my nexus 4 it just shuts down the display and it cannot be turned on anymore
[07:25] <timppa> on next reboot it works until I press the power button or it goes to sleep
[08:07] <popey> timppa: its a problem with a powerd upstart script
[08:08] <popey> timppa: adb shell, vi /etc/init/powerd.conf, add the two lines in this paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/5869063/
[08:20] <DJJeff> why has no one made a video on how to port ubuntu touch
[08:21] <popey> well volunteered DJJeff !
[08:32] <popey> ogra_: we spinning a release today?
[09:09] <timppa> popey, thanks!
[09:10] <ogra_> popey, well ... https://code.launchpad.net/~sforshee/powerd/fix-power-button/+merge/174203 ... wont be different from yesterdays
[09:10] <ogra_> (that still didnt land )
[09:11]  * ogra_ will upload powerd manually after some more coffee
[09:11] <popey> nice one
[09:14] <timppa> what about wireless: Phone cannot connect to wifi anymore: wlan0      802-11-wireless   connecting (need authentication)
[09:14] <timppa> GPRS works
[09:30] <timppa> seems that network manager does not add wpa key to /etc/Network/system-connections/<connection> file
[09:31] <timppa> after manually adding wpa key it works
[09:49] <DJJeff> wlan0        no wireless extensions.
[09:49] <DJJeff> :)
[09:51] <DJJeff> tcp/ip over usb adb would be cool
[10:04] <crocket> Will ubuntu phones be the same as plain ubuntu computers?
[10:06] <ogra_> how do you mean ?
[10:06] <ogra_> the convergent device will offer you a desktop when docked .... it will still just be a phone running ubuntu-touch when not docked
[10:07] <ogra_> (though that is all 14.04 material, currently the phone is just a phone)
[10:08] <sarobat> latest Saucy package have WiFi issues?
[10:18] <ogra_> popey, 13.1 is building now
[10:21] <crocket> ogra_: Can I run OpenVPN in the background in an ubuntu phone?
[10:21] <crocket> ogra_: Can I run sshd in the background?
[10:21] <crocket> A phone that's actually a linux PC.
[10:21] <crocket> awesome
[10:24] <ogra_> crocket, yes to both (you can already do that (ssh and vpn just work,, not different to any other ubuntu install))
[10:24] <crocket> ogra_: How does an ubuntu phone control power consumption?
[10:24] <crocket> Do I have to control it manually?
[10:25] <crocket> iOS controls it by smothering background apps.
[10:25] <ogra_> it ships powerd ...
[10:25] <crocket> ???
[10:25] <ogra_> every piece of hardware  is off by default unless an app requests it to be powered
[10:25] <crocket> How does powerd work?
[10:26] <crocket> hmm
[10:28] <crocket> ogra_: Is powerd part of a common ubuntu installation?
[10:28] <ogra_> no, thats an ubuntu-touch specific app
[10:28] <crocket> ogra_: sad
[10:28] <crocket> ogra_: What about laptops?
[10:28] <ogra_> it might become a desktop app in the future though
[10:29] <crocket> ogra_: I'm so excited about ubuntu phones and tablets.
[10:29] <ogra_> :)
[10:29] <crocket> I'm so sick of iOS.
[10:30] <crocket> android is just a fake.
[10:30] <crocket> A real linux phone
[10:45] <flo__> ppa:phablet-team/ppa should probably have a copy of indcator-{power,datetime} for ubuntu touch, right? They exist in the daily builds PPA, but that's not enabled in images, so packages from ubuntu desktop are installed as a dependency of indicators-client
[10:54] <ogra_> daily-builds end up in the archive
[10:54] <ogra_> no need to duplicate them in a PPA
[10:56] <WebbyIT> hi nik90.. what's the name of clock channel? I forgot it :-/
[10:58] <flo__> ogra_, hm, something must be broken with the repo or the sources.list ... I still don't understand why apt-get dist-upgrade installed all the gnome-control-center stuff (I see lots of "app launcher" symbols now, corresponding to control center icons, like Bluetooth or Power, but they don't work and some are missing a symbol). Also, the clock and battery icon are gone in ubuntu touch since I used apt-get autoremove, which removed the i
[10:58] <flo__> ndicator-battery and indicator-time packages.
[11:02] <ogra_> flo__, wait for a newer image, deps were broken at some point
[11:02] <flo__> ah, so I need to reflash? okay, thanks
[11:02] <ogra_> well, wait for the next image ... :)
[11:02] <flo__> sure :)
[11:03] <ogra_> cdimage should burp it up within the next 30min, once we tested it then it will become default
[11:18] <popey> ogra_: its there
[11:19] <ogra_> yep
[11:19]  * popey flashes
[11:20]  * ogra_ syncs ... 20min ...
[11:27] <popey> hmm, we had a page on the wiki with a table showing the status of devices.. .anyone remember the url?
[11:28] <ogra_> popey, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/Nexus ?
[11:28] <popey> bingo
[11:28] <popey> we're moving that to a google spreadsheet, will create a link on that page
[11:28] <popey> makes it easier to maintain
[11:31] <popey> ogra_: still getting blank screen on first boot
[11:31] <ogra_> weird
[11:31] <WebbyIT> m-b-o: can you help me? Fixing a branch I pushed in another branch. I used bzr uncommit and bzr push --overwrite, but remains the last commit. This branch has already been approved and merged, what have I to do? Delete it?
[11:31] <WebbyIT> https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-weather-app/1198544
[11:31] <ogra_> blank or google logo ?
[11:31] <popey> blank, ubuntu up and I can adb shell in
[11:31] <popey> just rebooted again
[11:32] <popey> unity8 is running, screen blank
[11:32] <popey> meh, i'm just impatient
[11:32] <ogra_> heh
[11:32] <popey> it appeared in the end
[11:32] <ogra_> the session manager changes ricmm did yesterday should speed it up a lot
[11:32] <ogra_> not sure they went into the archive yet though, i think they are still fddling with it
[11:38] <popey> ok
[11:38] <ogra_> good on mako ?
[11:38]  * ogra_ still has 3min to go
[11:41] <popey> yes, good on mako
[11:41] <popey> https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArLs7UPtu-hJdDZDNWliMmV1YUJ3Zk1pQlpDdGp4VFE#gid=0
[11:41] <ogra_> :)
[11:41] <popey> have mailed pat to ask him to make that public-viewable
[11:43]  * popey flashes grouper
[11:45]  * ogra_ flashes maguro
[11:49] <ogra_> the maguros flash process always tricks me into thinking it broke ...
[11:49] <ogra_> the moment i want to adb in it usually reboots and is done
[11:51] <ogra_> phew, powerd works at least
[11:53] <popey> grouper is so slow to adb push
[11:53] <ogra_> yeah, but the flashing itself is a lot faster than maguro
[11:54] <ogra_> maguro looks ok
[11:55] <ogra_> hmm, does your volume control on mako also not go to zero when playing sintel ?
[11:55] <ogra_> using the HW buttons
[11:58]  * popey tries
[11:58] <popey> yeah, cant get it to zero
[11:58] <ogra_> it goes up and down fine ...
[11:59] <popey> odd. sound indicator is "empty"
[11:59] <ogra_> i can get it to zero using the indicator
[11:59] <ogra_> yeah
[11:59] <popey> but it was there earlier
[11:59] <popey> i tested volume buttons
[11:59] <ogra_> there is a bug open for that
[12:00] <ogra_> bug 1181299
[12:00]  * ogra_ marks the image as fine
[12:00] <popey> sweet
[12:01] <ogra_> done
[12:02] <ogra_> sergiusens, rsalveti, new phablet-tools isnt in the PPA yet (only saucy)
[12:04] <ogra_> oh ! the browser has a history now
[12:05] <ogra_> (still no way to close tabs though)
[12:12] <m-b-o> WebbyIT: back at keyboard. One moment, will look at it. I'm a newbie to bzr too...
[12:13] <WebbyIT> m-b-o: ok, thanks... I definitely find more meaningful names for my branch
[12:32] <m-b-o> WebbyIT: since the branch is already merged, you can delete it.
[12:33] <m-b-o> WebbyIT: removing a remote commit works for me, if I do a "bzr revert" after the uncommit and before the push -overwrite
[13:33] <WebbyIT> m-b-o:  with also "bzr revert" I have resolved! Thanks for the help :)
[13:55] <mihahn> Hey, I have a question
[13:55] <mihahn> can you tell me what's wrong here?
[13:55] <mihahn> make: *** Keine Regel vorhanden, um das Target »/home/mihahn/ubuntu/out/target/product/mango/ubuntu-boot.img«,    benötigt von »/home/mihahn/ubuntu/out/target/product/mango/obj/PACKAGING/target_files_intermediates/cm_mango-target_files-eng.mihahn.zip«, zu erstellen.  Schluss. make: *** Warte auf noch nicht beendete Prozesse...
[13:59] <lithid> I was hoping to try and contribute to ubuntu touch. I am not sure this is the right place to get information about it or not. Just looking for some documentation on how to contribute code for ubuntu touch.
[14:08] <dejello> mihahn: I have been having that issue, am building right now to see it if worked, but I had to add the lines from "build/core/Makefile" to my device "boot.mk" file
[14:09] <dejello> Hold on
[14:12] <WebbyIT> lithid: you can start looking here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Contribute
[14:14] <dejello> Line 450 in build/core/Makefile starts an if statement regarding boot.img files.   Line 467 brings in "ifndef BOARD_CUSTOM_BOOTIMG_MK".  My devices have this defined in the Boardconfig file (pointing to boot.mk)  I just copied the section starting with "$(INSTALLED_BOOTIMAGE_TARGET_UBUNTU): $(MKBOOTIMG) $(INTERNAL_BOOTIMAGE_FILES_UBUNTU)" to that file under the previously copied section we had there.  Not sure how you file look
[14:15] <dejello> atm I am not sure if I can remove any of it from my device files and have it work through the build/core/Makefile..  I will try that next perhaps.
[14:17] <dejello> and... It just finished building, time to see what's up
[14:17]  * dejello crosses his fingers
[14:17] <lithid> WebbyIT: Thanks
[14:19] <WebbyIT> lithid: and then you can ask help to dpm (who isn't online) mhall119 or popey, which are in the Community Team of Canonical and follow the Touch project
[14:44] <g0twig> hey there
[14:46] <g0twig> this device list is not very actual
[14:46] <g0twig> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[15:00] <g0twig> mhall119: hey =)
[15:02] <mhall119> hi g0twig
[15:04] <bpotacon> hi has anyone here successfully installed on a xt907?
[15:23] <UbUnTiViTy> Hello people
[15:23] <UbUnTiViTy> I'm planning to buy a new mobile phone, and I plan to run Ubuntu touch on it. I have two choices: Samsung Galaxy S3 or LG Nexus 4, which is better for me??
[15:26] <mhall119> Nexus 4
[15:27] <mhall119> that's one of the officially supported devices, so you'll have the best success with it
[15:29] <UbUnTiViTy> What about USB OTG?
[15:29] <UbUnTiViTy> You know Nexus 4 has no sd slot, so any memory extension should be done using a USB Flash memory or the like, but will that work on it??
[15:31] <UbUnTiViTy> mhall119: Thanks for your answer, but does Nexus 4 support USB On-The-Go when running Ubuntu Touch?
[15:32] <nik90> mhall119: I think the jenkins bot for both the core apps and the sdk is down :(.
[15:33] <mhall119> UbUnTiViTy: you mean accessing it over a USB cable?
[15:33] <nik90> Not mergin my MP and also no updates to saucy from the sdk trunk
[15:33] <mhall119> nik90: :/
[15:33] <UbUnTiViTy> Yes mhall119 , Connecting a USB Flash using USB Cable
[15:33] <mhall119> nik90: I'll email fginther, but it might not get resolved before Monday
[15:33] <nik90> mhall119: yeah
[15:33] <UbUnTiViTy> will that work? and will USB keyboard/mouse work too?
[15:34] <mhall119> UbUnTiViTy: I don't know, I haven't tried that
[15:35] <UbUnTiViTy> ok, mhall119. Thanks. I think I'll wait until someone with Nexus 4 running Ubuntu Touch tries it for me
[15:36] <UbUnTiViTy> mhall119: Do you have a Nexus 4?
[15:36] <mhall119> no, I have a nexus 7
[15:37] <UbUnTiViTy> Ah, so Nexus 7 is a tablet, right?
[15:37] <jo-erlend> yes.
[15:38] <jo-erlend> mhall119, I have a Nexus 7 myself and I've been waiting to install Ubuntu on it. (It's why I got it in the first place). How is the experience now? Is it usable for basic stuff?
[15:39] <UbUnTiViTy> +1 jo-erlend
[15:40] <mhall119> jo-erlend: it's very usable for most stuff
[15:40] <mhall119> jo-erlend: the only things that don't work yet are audio and camera
[15:41] <mhall119> but it's been my daily-use tablet for a couple months now
[15:41] <UbUnTiViTy> Does ubuntu touch provide full desktop-ubuntu functionality?
[15:41] <mhall119> UbUnTiViTy: not yet, but the goal is to provide that when it's docked with a larger screen, keyboard and mouse
[15:42] <UbUnTiViTy> Is docking essential for that?
[15:42] <mhall119> well, the desktop mode isn't really designed for touch input on small screens
[15:42] <UbUnTiViTy> and what about the Command Line Interface? Is it as powerful as on a PC?
[15:42] <mhall119> oh yeah, command-line is pretty much identical
[15:42] <mhall119> there's even a terminal app in the default install
[15:43] <UbUnTiViTy> Nice! and is it possible to apt-get any command line tool that I use on my PC?
[15:43] <mhall119> as long as it's been compiled for armhf, yes
[15:43] <mhall119> which most should be
[15:43] <UbUnTiViTy> "as long as".. and if it isnt??
[15:44] <UbUnTiViTy> Will it be possible to compile it from source?
[15:44] <mhall119> then it won't run on the ARM processor on the device
[15:44] <mhall119> UbUnTiViTy: any package in the Ubuntu archives should be re-build for armhf, so if it's not available to install it's most likely because the compile for armhf failed
[15:44] <mhall119> UbUnTiViTy: but I haven't come across anything for the command line that wasn't available
[15:45] <UbUnTiViTy> hmmm.. so you don't remember any missing packages??
[15:45] <mhall119> nope
[15:45] <UbUnTiViTy> good
[15:45] <UbUnTiViTy> :)
[15:45] <mhall119> and I've installed all kinds of stuff
[15:46] <UbUnTiViTy> what about aircrack?
[15:46] <mhall119> I'm not familiar with that
[15:46] <UbUnTiViTy> I see it is not available on the desktop repository, so 100% it is not available on armhf repository
[15:47] <mhall119> yeah
[15:47] <UbUnTiViTy> but I compiled it from source on my PC, so I guess it is 'theoretically' possible to compile it on Ubuntu Touch too?
[15:47] <mhall119> theoretically yes, I've compiled stuff on the device before
[15:47] <UbUnTiViTy> Good, do you remember what you compiled?
[15:48] <mhall119> various system packages for Ubuntu Touch
[15:48] <mhall119> Unity8
[15:48] <mhall119> mostly things that had a new feature/fix in trunk that I didn't want to wait on a PPA to publish
[15:49] <UbUnTiViTy> OK.. You mentioned earlier that "camera" and "audio" are not working yet, so does that mean you CAN'T listen to music on your device??
[15:52] <UbUnTiViTy> ??
[15:55] <flo__> UbUnTiViTy, it depends on the device. I can listen to music on my device. (though the only player I have available is 100% http-based and can't play local files, but ubuntu touch does not support http-audio-streaming yet, but with a custom fix for the streaming, audio works)
[15:56] <mhall119> UbUnTiViTy: those work on the nexus 4
[15:56] <mhall119> and galaxy nexus and nexus 10 as far as I know
[15:56] <mhall119> just not hte nexus 7
[15:57] <mhall119> flo__: the Music core app now support music file detection from ~/Music/ and playback
[15:58] <UbUnTiViTy> So, are there any known draw-backs on  Nexus 4?
[15:58] <mhall119> not that I know of
[15:59] <flo__> mhall119, oh, thats great. last time I tried, the "music" launcher was just a fake and nothing happened. Now it seems that launcher is gone, I should probably install the app then!
[15:59] <UbUnTiViTy> and do you have any idea about whether USB On-The-Go on Nexus 4, flo__ ?
[16:00] <flo__> UbUnTiViTy, sorry, no idea
[16:00] <UbUnTiViTy> *Whether it works or not?
[16:00] <mhall119> flo__: you'll need to install the music-app Core App
[16:00] <mhall119> from the Core Apps PPA
[16:00] <UbUnTiViTy> Ok. Thanks flo__
[16:00] <mhall119> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/PPA
[16:00] <flo__> mhall119, installing it right now
[16:00] <UbUnTiViTy> Guys, is there a channel for Nexus series or Nexus4 in particular?
[16:01] <mhall119> UbUnTiViTy: nope, this is the channel for all ubuntu touch related stuff
[16:02] <UbUnTiViTy> Do you guys have any suggestions about how can I be sure of USB OTG on Nexus 4 before buying it?
[16:02] <UbUnTiViTy> I know USB OTG on Nexus 4 running Android doesn't work out of the box, but what about Ubuntu Touch? That's the question!
[16:03] <mhall119> UbUnTiViTy: wait until Monday and ask in here when there is somebody who has a nexus 4
[16:04] <UbUnTiViTy> Monday? Is there a schedule in this channel or something?
[16:04] <mhall119> UbUnTiViTy: not really, it's just that it's more active during the work week than on weekends
[16:05] <UbUnTiViTy> Ah, I see. Here it is a workday on Sunday so sorry :)
[16:07] <flo__> somehow audio doesn't work in the music app for me.. Either the guy doing cynaogenmod development for my device changed something so it no longer works or there was a change in ubuntu or it's a glitch. oh well :)
[16:09] <flo__> W/AudioTrack( 1461): obtainBuffer timed out (is the CPU pegged?) 0x41d62580 name=0x2user=000012c0, server=00000000   hm
[16:27] <WebbyIT> balloons: ping :)
[16:44] <popey> doesn't look like USB OTG works OOTB on Ubuntu Touch
[16:48] <dejello> Hello
[16:50] <popey> hello
[16:53] <dejello> doh, bbl
[17:20] <dejello> kinda back
[17:21]  * dejello ish?
[17:36] <dejello_meep> hm..  sort of remember some irc stuff...  :P
[18:21] <WebbyIT> Hi balloons, today I have done my first autopilot. Can you check it, please? :) https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/1188703
[18:29] <flo__> does anyone know about the current status of the "flipped" porting guide? I'm eager to give it a try :)
[18:30] <AskUbuntu> Office application on ubuntu phone | http://askubuntu.com/q/319692
[19:36] <dejello> meep
[19:36] <popey> meep indeed
[19:40]  * dejello isn't sure what to do with these ubuntu-boot.img and ubuntu-ramdisk.img files atm >.>
[19:41] <dejello> (im)patiently waiting for porting info updates :)
[19:51]  * flo__ too :)
[20:57] <esigolo> away
[20:59] <pinqvin> hello
[21:01] <pinqvin> so could i install ubuntu on all galaxy nexus phones?
[21:03] <Conker> Hey all, I've recently installed ubuntu touch to my Samsung Galaxy Nexus but it seems to be a older version, including a lot of bugs / broken things. Any advice as to what I'm doing wrong?
[21:16] <pinqvin> could i call whit ubntu-phone?
[21:17] <pinqvin> and are messagin system working?
[21:17] <pinqvin> an internet?
[21:29] <flo__> Conker, are you sure it's an old version? mabye those bugs are simply not fixed yet. you should be able to download the official rootfs zip file and flash it on most devices, or simple log into your device and use apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[21:29] <flo__> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/20130712/ the 374M zip file