[07:03] <Kilos> morning all
[07:03] <Kilos> hi charl 
[07:06] <magespawn> howdy all
[07:13] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[07:25] <magespawn> connection still bothering you Kilos?
[07:26] <Kilos> yeah bad again magespawn hopping fro 1 bar to 3 and back
[07:26] <Kilos> will rev them again monday
[07:26] <Kilos> via cell twitter and email
[07:27] <Kilos> is the signal down an adsl line and what is seen on eth cable the same?
[07:29] <kbmonkey> kekeke
[07:30] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[07:30] <kbmonkey> hihihi
[07:35] <magespawn> he kbmonkey
[07:35] <magespawn> Kilos: by signal you mean? speed?
[07:36] <Kilos> no i mean what if i plug an eth cable from here into the adsl port on the router
[07:37] <kbmonkey> signal to noise? reading you five by five Kilos 
[07:37] <Kilos> so the router thinks the signal from my pc is coming from the adsl line
[07:37] <magespawn> the eth cable will not fit the adsl port, different jacks
[07:37] <Kilos> oh my
[07:38] <Kilos> sorry i havent even looked
[07:38] <magespawn> adsl is telephone line which is rj11 and eth is rj45
[07:39] <magespawn> phone line can only have 4 lines maximum, eth is 8
[07:39] <Kilos> but is what comes down them the same protocol i think its called
[07:40] <Kilos> ah ty
[07:40] <magespawn> no not really, the router contains a modem which translates the sync signal used in adsl to one used on networks
[07:41] <Kilos> ah head just running for ways to make router use my 3g
[07:42] <Kilos> i cant get masquerading going
[07:45] <magespawn> i suppose you could trick the modem into thinking that, but i think the amount of work to do that would be prohibitive
[07:45] <magespawn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-to-point_protocol_over_Ethernet
[07:45] <Kilos> ty i go see
[07:46] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[07:47] <nlsthzn> Good morning uncle Kilos :)
[07:48] <Kilos> oh magespawn the remastersys install takes 25 mins and the dvd has 3.7g on it
[07:48] <Kilos> oh no thats kde
[07:48] <Kilos> 3.2 on the unity one
[07:50] <Kilos> and the only upgrade download after rsyncing /var/cache/apt/archives/ was 25m for firefox
[07:51] <Kilos> because i forgot to remove ff
[07:53] <magespawn> nice Kilos
[07:53] <magespawn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet some more reading
[07:53] <Kilos> yeah remastersys works well
[07:53] <Kilos> you getting like the pro
[07:54] <Kilos> half of that stuff i dont understand
[07:56] <Kilos> i still think i must get a wireless adapter for my pc that can use and external antenna and serach for a wifi connection
[07:56] <magespawn> if you want, but i am pretty sure the router should be able to do that
[07:57] <Kilos> i dont find anywhere to tell it to search
[07:57] <Kilos> grrr
[07:58] <Kilos> it will work if i buy a supported modem the setup looks easy and it has bridging facilities inside
[07:59] <magespawn> have a look at those bridging options, and see there if it can connect to another wifi network
[07:59] <Kilos> but wifi would be the way to go methinks if i can find a signal where i can share with them or even pay them to use it
[08:00] <Kilos> it wants to bridge either from adsl or 3g no other options
[08:00] <Kilos> thats where the adsl questions came from
[08:05] <magespawn> i will have a look at the billion routers i have here and  see whats what
[08:07] <kbmonkey> It is really unfortunate your dongle does not work out the box Kilos :(
[08:07] <kbmonkey> with the router I mean
[08:08] <Kilos> yeah kbmonkey mainly frustrating actually
[08:08] <magespawn> is there a list of ones that do work?
[08:09] <Kilos> yeah
[08:09] <Kilos> 6 of them i think
[08:11] <Kilos> http://www.billionsa.com/compatible-3G.html#7300nx
[08:11] <Kilos> theyve added some more
[08:11] <Kilos> 7300nx
[08:12] <Kilos> then it shows them
[08:12] <Kilos> 11 supported now
[08:15]  * magespawn goes to read
[08:17] <Kilos> to me it seems like a good router but dunno how it would compare to others
[08:25] <magespawn> i think i have a working e220 around here somewhere
[08:27] <Kilos> sell it
[08:27] <Kilos> hehe you seen that olx add on tv
[08:28] <Kilos> a whole range of them. actually quite good
[08:28] <Kilos> how much you want for it magespawn ?
[08:28] <magespawn> i get most of these things for free from people who no longer use them, so i tend to pay it forward
[08:31] <Kilos> have you got a wireless adapter as well?
[08:31] <Kilos> and i must pay something man
[08:34] <magespawn> if it is sitting here doing nothing, then why?
[08:39] <Kilos> hi georgelappies 
[08:39] <Kilos> magespawn, yes please
[08:39] <georgelappies> HI kILOS
[08:39] <Kilos> you still got postage addy?
[08:41] <magespawn> somewhere send it again anyway
[08:43] <Kilos> box 48507
[08:44] <Kilos> hercules 
[08:44] <Kilos> 0030
[08:45] <Kilos> shoulda pm that methinks
[08:46] <Kilos> sorry
[08:46] <Kilos> at least let me pay the postage costs magespawn 
[08:46] <magespawn> np
[08:47] <magespawn> lets see how much it is first, shouldn't be tha much
[08:49] <Kilos> address to cheryl du toit
[08:50] <magespawn> wilco
[08:50] <Kilos> ty so much
[09:07] <Kilos> kbmonkey, why so quiet, choked onna banana?
[09:09] <Squirm> morning
[09:09] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[09:15] <kbmonkey> no kilos lol
[09:16] <kbmonkey> I am doing morning chores and washing 
[09:16] <Kilos> good man
[09:16] <kbmonkey> now I can look at some python a bit :)
[09:18] <Kilos> hehe
[09:18] <Kilos> alternates to google reader http://is.gd/W9XBi2
[09:18] <kbmonkey> I can't be bothered to watch videos online
[09:18] <Kilos> spose the pro has found one already
[09:19] <kbmonkey> :]
[09:19] <Kilos> he was most upset when they said google reader is closing down
[09:20] <magespawn> i never really got into using google reader
[09:21]  * magespawn is busy having a look at android courses http://is.gd/nHIlbz
[09:23] <Squirm> my PC didn't boot this morning :/
[09:24] <Squirm> but it seems right after a fsck
[09:25] <magespawn> hi Squirm
[09:26] <Squirm> hey magespawn 
[09:44] <Vince-0> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/dbnlug/CrlJ8Hjt06s
[09:56] <Kilos> oh my Vince-0 i had to join you okes again
[09:56] <Kilos> sigh
[09:58] <psychicist> hi Kilos 
[09:58] <psychicist> hi Vince-0 
[09:58] <psychicist> hi zeref 
[09:58] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[09:58] <psychicist> hi kbmonkey 
[09:58] <psychicist> hi Squirm 
[09:58] <psychicist> hi Georgl 
[09:59] <psychicist> or georgelappies 
[09:59] <Kilos> hehe
[09:59] <psychicist> hello magespawn 
[10:00] <Kilos> im sure i joined before as well
[10:00] <georgelappies> lol hi psychicist
[10:02] <Kilos> Vince-0, who is the owner there. i wanna ask him to unpend me
[10:03] <magespawn> hey psychicist
[10:03] <magespawn> bbl got to go out for a bit
[10:27] <charl> good afternoon
[10:28] <Kilos> hi charl 
[10:35] <Georgl> greetings everyone
[10:58] <Vince-0> Kilos: lemme seee
[10:58] <Kilos> not serious
[10:58] <Kilos> i mailed him
[10:58] <Vince-0> that'd be me 
[10:58] <Kilos> haha
[10:59] <Kilos> so you got the mail then
[10:59] <Vince-0> done!
[10:59] <Kilos> i think it was a mail
[10:59] <Kilos> ty
[11:00] <Kilos> dunno what i did wrong but i ended up with another gmail account
[11:02] <Kilos> easier than trying to actually open one
[11:03] <Vince-0> My original Gmail got hacked and replaced, couldn't get it back
[11:03] <Vince-0> now I have 2 factor auth
[11:03] <Kilos> ai!
[13:05] <Squirm> had my plane up in the air today, I have long, glider like wing, so, I entered a thermal
[13:05] <Squirm> and blimey I went high
[13:12] <Kilos> and a safe landing as well?
[13:18] <Kilos> apart from being able to dodge trees that jump in front of you the most important part of flying is being able to land without crashing
[15:00] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[15:00]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[15:00] <Kilos> hi superfly have a cuppa
[15:03] <superfly> hi Kilos, thanks
[15:04] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[15:04] <Kilos> Maaz, thanks man
[15:04] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[15:57] <inetpro> good morning Kilos
[15:59] <nuvolari_> .
[15:59] <nuvolari_> *g*
[15:59]  * nuvolari_ peeks in
[16:00] <nuvolari> o.O Vince-0, when did that happen?
[16:02] <nuvolari> the what what? why the high number of ping timeouts?
[16:02] <nuvolari> I saw an announcement on g+ the other day that freenode got attacked :-/
[16:04] <nuvolari> fine. I'm note around
[16:04] <nuvolari> :'(
[16:04] <nuvolari> *not
[16:11] <nuvolari> sweet video Squirm :>
[17:01] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos! :)
[17:02] <Kilos> hi nuvolari how are you my man
[17:02] <Kilos> ?
[17:02] <nuvolari> dit gaan goed dankie en met oom?
[17:02] <Kilos> ook goed dankie net vrek koud
[17:03] <nuvolari> ja jissie, sommer koud hier ook
[17:03] <nuvolari> moes nou-nou my ander top in die motor gaan haal
[17:03] <nuvolari> quite nippy here
[17:03] <Kilos> ai!
[17:04] <Kilos> gaan dit goed by die werk?
[17:04] <nuvolari> ja oom, net rof
[17:04] <nuvolari> maar dit gaan goed
[17:04] <Kilos> kerm laat hulle nog staf kry
[17:04] <nuvolari> die family is nou terug huistoe, so nou kan ek weer by die leer goed uitkom
[17:04] <Kilos> mooi
[17:05] <nuvolari> ja nee, weet nie wat skort nie. ons het nie genoeg hande nie, maar IT het nie nou nog positions nie :(
[17:05] <Kilos> ai!
[17:06] <Kilos> hi Mezenir 
[17:06] <nuvolari> hello's
[17:06] <nuvolari> oom Kilos, wat het hier aangegaan?
[17:06] <Kilos> wat?
[17:06] <nuvolari> of wat het ek gemis?
[17:07] <Kilos> ag nie te veel niw die meeste van die ouens is ook vrek besig hele tyd
[17:07] <Kilos> so paar nuwe mense
[17:07] <Kilos> ons vergader maandag aand ne
[17:08] <nuvolari> oh! dis goed dat hier nuwe mense is
[17:08] <nuvolari> dis reg oom
[17:08] <nuvolari> wie stoel?
[17:08] <Kilos> ?
[17:08] <Kilos> apie as ek reg onthou
[17:08] <nuvolari> okei koel
[17:08] <Kilos> vinnie leer nog
[17:09] <nuvolari> hy ook? ugh, tussen werk en leer het ons nie tyd vir ons self nie
[17:09] <Kilos> nee man hy leer om sy konneksie goed genoeg te kry om te stoel
[17:09] <Kilos> hehe
[17:11] <Kilos> die pro is maar baie skaars hier met die geskywery van sy werk
[17:11] <nuvolari> :-/ ons kort nuwe bloed
[17:12] <Kilos> daar is n ander web designer wat hier was maar ek weet nie waar is hy nou nie
[17:12] <Kilos> gebruik ubuntu en vensters
[17:12] <Kilos> maar die ou bloed moet nie waai nie
[17:13] <nuvolari> ja, maar dit lyk my soos ons aangaan raak die ou bloed dieper in die werk
[17:14] <Kilos> jy moet die vlieg ook groet ne
[17:14] <nuvolari> is hy hier rond?
[17:14] <Kilos> ja dis waar
[17:14]  * nuvolari sets up a fly trap for superfly
[17:14] <nuvolari> *cough*
[17:14] <Kilos> goed word net duurder
[17:15] <Kilos> julle moet ook begin programme skryf wat julle kan verkoop
[17:15] <Kilos> maak soos mark en slaan die pitte
[17:19] <Vince-0> nuvolari: account got hacked back in the day
[17:22] <Kilos> Vince-0, hows your connection doing lately?
[17:23] <Vince-0> openweb has been OK
[17:24] <Vince-0> a few times recently, the G+ hangout app doesn't load first time
[17:24] <Kilos> you changed?
[17:25] <Kilos> i saw in my new gmail account that the hang out goodie is in there and shows a phone, whats that for
[17:25] <superfly> nuvolari: it doesn't work, I'm too super
[17:26] <Kilos> hee hee
[17:31] <Vince-0> Kilos: you can call phone numbers in a hangout
[17:31] <Vince-0> with google voice credit
[17:32] <Kilos> hehe
[17:32] <Kilos> is that virtual credit like that bitcoin thing
[17:40] <Vince-0> well its google voice account credit charged in US$
[17:40] <Vince-0> not transferrable 
[17:40] <Kilos> aha ty
[17:51] <Kilos> hi Cantide you sick?
[17:51] <Cantide> haha
[17:51] <Cantide> hello :p
[17:51] <Cantide> no, why?
[17:51] <Kilos> well you sneak in and say nothing
[17:52] <Kilos> hopefully the koreans will teach you a bit
[17:56] <Kilos> you walk in to a room , bow and say ah so
[18:30] <inetpro> eish!
[18:30] <inetpro> Godmother of Unix admins Evi Nemeth presumed lost at sea http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/05/evi_nemeth_unix_dead/
[18:31] <Kilos> ai! naand inetpro 
[18:31] <inetpro> goeienaand oom Kilos
[18:34] <inetpro> "The boat was last heard from on June 4"
[18:34] <inetpro> sad story
[18:34] <Kilos> eish
[18:35] <inetpro> She literally wrote the book on Unix...
[18:35] <Kilos> oh inetpro i found a link about what to use in place of google reader
[18:35] <inetpro> Kilos: what?
[18:36] <Kilos> there are other readers
[18:36]  * inetpro uses https://www.newsblur.com/
[18:36] <Kilos> oh you got something
[18:36]  * confluency uses Tiny Tiny RSS. That's something you install on your own server, though/
[18:36] <inetpro> that is pointless
[18:37] <inetpro> might as well just use Akregator
[18:37] <inetpro> then again I guess it's not entirely pointless
[18:38] <Kilos> http://is.gd/W9XBi2
[18:38] <Kilos> there are a few
[18:38] <inetpro> I know
[18:39] <Kilos> also what you doing about the tweet place
[18:39] <inetpro> of those that I gave tested newsblur comes closest to google reader IMHO
[18:39] <Kilos> birdie is growing quick
[18:39] <inetpro> birdie is not for kde
[18:39] <Kilos> can do multiple accounts already
[18:40] <Kilos> huh
[18:40] <confluency> It's not pointless if you already have a server.
[18:40] <inetpro> confluency: true
[18:41] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[18:41] <Kilos> hi confluency 
[18:44] <confluency> 'Sup
[18:45] <Kilos> all good ty and there
[18:52] <nuvolari> eek
[18:52] <nuvolari> vergeet ek is nog hier ook
[18:52] <Kilos> what
[18:52] <nuvolari> oh hi confluency 
[18:52] <Kilos> lol
[18:52] <nuvolari> ltnc
[18:52] <confluency> I'm always here; I just don't talk. ;)
[18:53]  * nuvolari watches his typing
[18:53] <nuvolari> :P
[18:53] <nuvolari> eyes might just catch stuff I say
[18:54] <nuvolari> eh? google reader. now there's a luxury - following up on feeds
[18:54] <nuvolari> I just end up clicking "Mark all as read" every 2 weeks :P
[18:54] <Kilos> hehe
[18:55] <nuvolari> Reddit became my latest news source, just bubbling up the most important links
[18:56] <nuvolari> I wonder how many people are in the same bot as I am. I only got upset on Google Reader's retirement as it was cool to have and it is taken away
[18:56] <nuvolari> but now that it's gone, I don't miss it
[18:56] <nuvolari> and I don't use the alternatives as much as I did before the official kill-date :P
[18:57] <nuvolari> it's like Oxygen: you only scrambe for more when you are running out of it
[18:58] <inetpro> Kilos: Thunderbird also works as a twitter client
[18:58] <Kilos> i use birdie
[18:58] <inetpro> just not very intuitive 
[18:58] <nuvolari> twitter - another luxury :P
[18:59] <Kilos> i use it for meeting announce ments
[18:59] <Kilos> Maaz, announce Monthly meeting monday night guys
[18:59] <Maaz> Announcement from Kilos! Monthly meeting monday night guys
[19:01] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn what a hiding
[19:18] <inetpro> Kilos: what happened?
[19:18] <Kilos> when
[19:18] <Kilos> oh the stormers thumped the bulls
[19:18] <inetpro> * what a hiding
[19:18] <inetpro> ah, ouch
[19:20] <Kilos> hehe
[19:21] <nuvolari> booyah! Gauteng is weer oorbevolk. Die bulle is terug aarde toe
[19:21] <nuvolari> :P
[19:21] <Kilos> haha
[19:58] <Kilos> night all . sleep tight
[19:58] <inetpro> Kilos: nou al?
[19:58] <inetpro> dis nog nie 23:00 nie
[19:58] <Kilos> ja man dis koud hier
[19:59] <Kilos> hehe
[19:59] <inetpro> ai!
[19:59] <inetpro> goeie nag oom
[19:59] <Kilos> nag boetie
[20:25] <charl> Cantide: just listened to http://youtu.be/hgeAmF7bgoE
[20:25] <charl> that's world class music
[20:27] <Cantide> eh,
[20:27] <Cantide> i just cliked
[20:27] <Cantide> clicked *
[20:27] <Cantide> and saw it's Shinee...
[20:28] <Cantide> without even hearing it, i don't expect much :p
[20:28] <Cantide> hmm
[20:28] <Cantide> actually better than the last thing of theirs i saw :p
[20:28] <Cantide> this is more my style though -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_XfXnFAUbA
[20:29] <charl> no idea, it's the first and only thing i ever heard
[20:29] <charl> of them
[20:29] <Cantide> oh, i heard one of their songs about a year or two ago, really hated it :p
[20:29] <charl> that girl has awesome legs!
[20:30] <charl> i don't know if i like all these koreans dying their hair
[20:31] <charl> are they trying to look like white people?
[20:31] <Cantide> i like them with dark hair..
[20:31] <Cantide> she looks a bit like HyunA with that dyed hair -.-
[20:31] <Cantide> eww
[20:31] <charl> yeah the asians don't have the natural variation in hair colour that westerners have
[20:31] <Cantide> yes, she does have nice legs :p
[20:31] <Cantide> yes, so i think they dye it to stand out
[20:32] <Cantide> but that colour is rather gross :p
[20:32] <charl> yeah it looks terrible on an asian
[20:32] <Cantide> yeah
[20:32] <Cantide> ah well :p
[20:32] <Cantide> 민아 will never do that because i will never permit it..
[20:32] <Cantide> maybe purple >_>
[20:33] <charl> oh that 민아 she is cute
[20:33] <charl> she is really cute !
[20:34] <Cantide> 'o'
[20:34] <Cantide> wh.. who? 'o'
[20:34] <Cantide> i was speaking about the 민아 that is mine '-';;;
[20:34] <Cantide> i doubt you've seen her 'o'
[20:34] <Cantide> unless there is something i don't know haha
[20:35] <Cantide> which 민아 are you speaking of/
[20:35] <Cantide> ?
[20:35] <charl> http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EB%AF%BC%EC%95%84
[20:35] <charl> sorry wrong one then :P
[20:35] <charl> i just googled the name assumed it's an idol/artist
[20:36] <Cantide> oh yeah, she is cute :p
[20:36] <Cantide> but it's a different one '-';;;
[20:36] <Cantide> luckily~
[20:36] <Cantide> wouldn't want to date a singer haha
[20:36] <charl> :
[20:36] <charl> :D
[20:36] <charl> you got together with your korean girlfriend?
[20:36] <charl> or is it a new one?
[20:37] <Cantide> same one
[20:37] <Cantide> it's been on and off for a few months now lol
[20:37] <charl> ah i see, i thought you split up, but that's good to hear
[20:37] <Cantide> we've split up multiple times =_=
[20:37] <charl> :(
[20:37] <Cantide> usually if that happens i'd just walk away
[20:37] <Cantide> not sure what it is about this girl though..
[20:37] <Cantide> she seems to enjoy the pain :p
[20:38] <charl> shame :(
[20:38] <Cantide> ah, it's all good
[20:38] <Cantide> we'll be fine once i am there
[20:38] <Cantide> the distance is difficult for her
[20:38] <charl> that's understandable
[20:38] <Cantide> yeah
[20:39] <Cantide> i just hope i can get everything together in time
[20:39] <Cantide> the visa is quite a bit of work
[20:39] <Cantide> and i only have about 2 weeks to get my docs to Korea -.-
[20:46] <nlsthzn> Maaz, tell Kilos ya ya... good game stormers
[20:46] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[22:03] <kbmonkey> yello