=== Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [07:03] <Kilos> morning all [07:03] <Kilos> hi charl [07:06] <magespawn> howdy all [07:13] <Kilos> hi magespawn [07:25] <magespawn> connection still bothering you Kilos? [07:26] <Kilos> yeah bad again magespawn hopping fro 1 bar to 3 and back [07:26] <Kilos> will rev them again monday [07:26] <Kilos> via cell twitter and email [07:27] <Kilos> is the signal down an adsl line and what is seen on eth cable the same? [07:29] <kbmonkey> kekeke [07:30] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey [07:30] <kbmonkey> hihihi [07:35] <magespawn> he kbmonkey [07:35] <magespawn> Kilos: by signal you mean? speed? [07:36] <Kilos> no i mean what if i plug an eth cable from here into the adsl port on the router [07:37] <kbmonkey> signal to noise? reading you five by five Kilos [07:37] <Kilos> so the router thinks the signal from my pc is coming from the adsl line [07:37] <magespawn> the eth cable will not fit the adsl port, different jacks [07:37] <Kilos> oh my [07:38] <Kilos> sorry i havent even looked [07:38] <magespawn> adsl is telephone line which is rj11 and eth is rj45 [07:39] <magespawn> phone line can only have 4 lines maximum, eth is 8 [07:39] <Kilos> but is what comes down them the same protocol i think its called [07:40] <Kilos> ah ty [07:40] <magespawn> no not really, the router contains a modem which translates the sync signal used in adsl to one used on networks === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [07:41] <Kilos> ah head just running for ways to make router use my 3g [07:42] <Kilos> i cant get masquerading going === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [07:45] <magespawn> i suppose you could trick the modem into thinking that, but i think the amount of work to do that would be prohibitive [07:45] <magespawn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-to-point_protocol_over_Ethernet [07:45] <Kilos> ty i go see [07:46] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn [07:47] <nlsthzn> Good morning uncle Kilos :) [07:48] <Kilos> oh magespawn the remastersys install takes 25 mins and the dvd has 3.7g on it [07:48] <Kilos> oh no thats kde [07:48] <Kilos> 3.2 on the unity one [07:50] <Kilos> and the only upgrade download after rsyncing /var/cache/apt/archives/ was 25m for firefox [07:51] <Kilos> because i forgot to remove ff [07:53] <magespawn> nice Kilos [07:53] <magespawn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet some more reading [07:53] <Kilos> yeah remastersys works well === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [07:53] <Kilos> you getting like the pro [07:54] <Kilos> half of that stuff i dont understand [07:56] <Kilos> i still think i must get a wireless adapter for my pc that can use and external antenna and serach for a wifi connection [07:56] <magespawn> if you want, but i am pretty sure the router should be able to do that [07:57] <Kilos> i dont find anywhere to tell it to search [07:57] <Kilos> grrr [07:58] <Kilos> it will work if i buy a supported modem the setup looks easy and it has bridging facilities inside [07:59] <magespawn> have a look at those bridging options, and see there if it can connect to another wifi network [07:59] <Kilos> but wifi would be the way to go methinks if i can find a signal where i can share with them or even pay them to use it [08:00] <Kilos> it wants to bridge either from adsl or 3g no other options [08:00] <Kilos> thats where the adsl questions came from [08:05] <magespawn> i will have a look at the billion routers i have here and see whats what [08:07] <kbmonkey> It is really unfortunate your dongle does not work out the box Kilos :( [08:07] <kbmonkey> with the router I mean [08:08] <Kilos> yeah kbmonkey mainly frustrating actually [08:08] <magespawn> is there a list of ones that do work? [08:09] <Kilos> yeah [08:09] <Kilos> 6 of them i think [08:11] <Kilos> http://www.billionsa.com/compatible-3G.html#7300nx [08:11] <Kilos> theyve added some more [08:11] <Kilos> 7300nx [08:12] <Kilos> then it shows them [08:12] <Kilos> 11 supported now [08:15] * magespawn goes to read [08:17] <Kilos> to me it seems like a good router but dunno how it would compare to others [08:25] <magespawn> i think i have a working e220 around here somewhere [08:27] <Kilos> sell it [08:27] <Kilos> hehe you seen that olx add on tv [08:28] <Kilos> a whole range of them. actually quite good [08:28] <Kilos> how much you want for it magespawn ? [08:28] <magespawn> i get most of these things for free from people who no longer use them, so i tend to pay it forward [08:31] <Kilos> have you got a wireless adapter as well? [08:31] <Kilos> and i must pay something man [08:34] <magespawn> if it is sitting here doing nothing, then why? [08:39] <Kilos> hi georgelappies [08:39] <Kilos> magespawn, yes please [08:39] <georgelappies> HI kILOS [08:39] <Kilos> you still got postage addy? [08:41] <magespawn> somewhere send it again anyway [08:43] <Kilos> box 48507 [08:44] <Kilos> hercules [08:44] <Kilos> 0030 [08:45] <Kilos> shoulda pm that methinks [08:46] <Kilos> sorry [08:46] <Kilos> at least let me pay the postage costs magespawn [08:46] <magespawn> np [08:47] <magespawn> lets see how much it is first, shouldn't be tha much [08:49] <Kilos> address to cheryl du toit [08:50] <magespawn> wilco [08:50] <Kilos> ty so much [09:07] <Kilos> kbmonkey, why so quiet, choked onna banana? [09:09] <Squirm> morning [09:09] <Kilos> hi Squirm [09:15] <kbmonkey> no kilos lol [09:16] <kbmonkey> I am doing morning chores and washing [09:16] <Kilos> good man [09:16] <kbmonkey> now I can look at some python a bit :) [09:18] <Kilos> hehe [09:18] <Kilos> alternates to google reader http://is.gd/W9XBi2 [09:18] <kbmonkey> I can't be bothered to watch videos online [09:18] <Kilos> spose the pro has found one already [09:19] <kbmonkey> :] [09:19] <Kilos> he was most upset when they said google reader is closing down [09:20] <magespawn> i never really got into using google reader [09:21] * magespawn is busy having a look at android courses http://is.gd/nHIlbz [09:23] <Squirm> my PC didn't boot this morning :/ [09:24] <Squirm> but it seems right after a fsck [09:25] <magespawn> hi Squirm [09:26] <Squirm> hey magespawn [09:44] <Vince-0> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/dbnlug/CrlJ8Hjt06s [09:56] <Kilos> oh my Vince-0 i had to join you okes again [09:56] <Kilos> sigh [09:58] <psychicist> hi Kilos [09:58] <psychicist> hi Vince-0 [09:58] <psychicist> hi zeref [09:58] <Kilos> hi psychicist [09:58] <psychicist> hi kbmonkey [09:58] <psychicist> hi Squirm [09:58] <psychicist> hi Georgl [09:59] <psychicist> or georgelappies [09:59] <Kilos> hehe [09:59] <psychicist> hello magespawn [10:00] <Kilos> im sure i joined before as well [10:00] <georgelappies> lol hi psychicist [10:02] <Kilos> Vince-0, who is the owner there. i wanna ask him to unpend me [10:03] <magespawn> hey psychicist [10:03] <magespawn> bbl got to go out for a bit [10:27] <charl> good afternoon [10:28] <Kilos> hi charl [10:35] <Georgl> greetings everyone [10:58] <Vince-0> Kilos: lemme seee [10:58] <Kilos> not serious [10:58] <Kilos> i mailed him [10:58] <Vince-0> that'd be me [10:58] <Kilos> haha [10:59] <Kilos> so you got the mail then [10:59] <Vince-0> done! [10:59] <Kilos> i think it was a mail [10:59] <Kilos> ty [11:00] <Kilos> dunno what i did wrong but i ended up with another gmail account [11:02] <Kilos> easier than trying to actually open one [11:03] <Vince-0> My original Gmail got hacked and replaced, couldn't get it back [11:03] <Vince-0> now I have 2 factor auth [11:03] <Kilos> ai! [13:05] <Squirm> had my plane up in the air today, I have long, glider like wing, so, I entered a thermal [13:05] <Squirm> and blimey I went high [13:12] <Kilos> and a safe landing as well? [13:18] <Kilos> apart from being able to dodge trees that jump in front of you the most important part of flying is being able to land without crashing [15:00] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on [15:00] * Maaz washes some mugs [15:00] <Kilos> hi superfly have a cuppa [15:03] <superfly> hi Kilos, thanks [15:04] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos! [15:04] <Kilos> Maaz, thanks man [15:04] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-) [15:57] <inetpro> good morning Kilos [15:59] <nuvolari_> . [15:59] <nuvolari_> *g* [15:59] * nuvolari_ peeks in === nuvolari_ is now known as nuvolari [16:00] <nuvolari> o.O Vince-0, when did that happen? [16:02] <nuvolari> the what what? why the high number of ping timeouts? [16:02] <nuvolari> I saw an announcement on g+ the other day that freenode got attacked :-/ [16:04] <nuvolari> fine. I'm note around [16:04] <nuvolari> :'( [16:04] <nuvolari> *not [16:11] <nuvolari> sweet video Squirm :> [17:01] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos! :) [17:02] <Kilos> hi nuvolari how are you my man [17:02] <Kilos> ? [17:02] <nuvolari> dit gaan goed dankie en met oom? [17:02] <Kilos> ook goed dankie net vrek koud [17:03] <nuvolari> ja jissie, sommer koud hier ook [17:03] <nuvolari> moes nou-nou my ander top in die motor gaan haal [17:03] <nuvolari> quite nippy here [17:03] <Kilos> ai! [17:04] <Kilos> gaan dit goed by die werk? [17:04] <nuvolari> ja oom, net rof [17:04] <nuvolari> maar dit gaan goed [17:04] <Kilos> kerm laat hulle nog staf kry [17:04] <nuvolari> die family is nou terug huistoe, so nou kan ek weer by die leer goed uitkom [17:04] <Kilos> mooi [17:05] <nuvolari> ja nee, weet nie wat skort nie. ons het nie genoeg hande nie, maar IT het nie nou nog positions nie :( [17:05] <Kilos> ai! [17:06] <Kilos> hi Mezenir [17:06] <nuvolari> hello's [17:06] <nuvolari> oom Kilos, wat het hier aangegaan? [17:06] <Kilos> wat? [17:06] <nuvolari> of wat het ek gemis? [17:07] <Kilos> ag nie te veel niw die meeste van die ouens is ook vrek besig hele tyd [17:07] <Kilos> so paar nuwe mense [17:07] <Kilos> ons vergader maandag aand ne [17:08] <nuvolari> oh! dis goed dat hier nuwe mense is [17:08] <nuvolari> dis reg oom [17:08] <nuvolari> wie stoel? [17:08] <Kilos> ? [17:08] <Kilos> apie as ek reg onthou [17:08] <nuvolari> okei koel [17:08] <Kilos> vinnie leer nog [17:09] <nuvolari> hy ook? ugh, tussen werk en leer het ons nie tyd vir ons self nie [17:09] <Kilos> nee man hy leer om sy konneksie goed genoeg te kry om te stoel [17:09] <Kilos> hehe [17:11] <Kilos> die pro is maar baie skaars hier met die geskywery van sy werk [17:11] <nuvolari> :-/ ons kort nuwe bloed [17:12] <Kilos> daar is n ander web designer wat hier was maar ek weet nie waar is hy nou nie [17:12] <Kilos> gebruik ubuntu en vensters [17:12] <Kilos> maar die ou bloed moet nie waai nie [17:13] <nuvolari> ja, maar dit lyk my soos ons aangaan raak die ou bloed dieper in die werk [17:14] <Kilos> jy moet die vlieg ook groet ne [17:14] <nuvolari> is hy hier rond? [17:14] <Kilos> ja dis waar [17:14] * nuvolari sets up a fly trap for superfly [17:14] <nuvolari> *cough* [17:14] <Kilos> goed word net duurder [17:15] <Kilos> julle moet ook begin programme skryf wat julle kan verkoop [17:15] <Kilos> maak soos mark en slaan die pitte [17:19] <Vince-0> nuvolari: account got hacked back in the day [17:22] <Kilos> Vince-0, hows your connection doing lately? [17:23] <Vince-0> openweb has been OK [17:24] <Vince-0> a few times recently, the G+ hangout app doesn't load first time [17:24] <Kilos> you changed? [17:25] <Kilos> i saw in my new gmail account that the hang out goodie is in there and shows a phone, whats that for [17:25] <superfly> nuvolari: it doesn't work, I'm too super [17:26] <Kilos> hee hee [17:31] <Vince-0> Kilos: you can call phone numbers in a hangout [17:31] <Vince-0> with google voice credit [17:32] <Kilos> hehe [17:32] <Kilos> is that virtual credit like that bitcoin thing [17:40] <Vince-0> well its google voice account credit charged in US$ [17:40] <Vince-0> not transferrable [17:40] <Kilos> aha ty [17:51] <Kilos> hi Cantide you sick? [17:51] <Cantide> haha [17:51] <Cantide> hello :p [17:51] <Cantide> no, why? [17:51] <Kilos> well you sneak in and say nothing [17:52] <Kilos> hopefully the koreans will teach you a bit [17:56] <Kilos> you walk in to a room , bow and say ah so [18:30] <inetpro> eish! [18:30] <inetpro> Godmother of Unix admins Evi Nemeth presumed lost at sea http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/05/evi_nemeth_unix_dead/ [18:31] <Kilos> ai! naand inetpro [18:31] <inetpro> goeienaand oom Kilos [18:34] <inetpro> "The boat was last heard from on June 4" [18:34] <inetpro> sad story [18:34] <Kilos> eish [18:35] <inetpro> She literally wrote the book on Unix... [18:35] <Kilos> oh inetpro i found a link about what to use in place of google reader [18:35] <inetpro> Kilos: what? [18:36] <Kilos> there are other readers [18:36] * inetpro uses https://www.newsblur.com/ [18:36] <Kilos> oh you got something [18:36] * confluency uses Tiny Tiny RSS. That's something you install on your own server, though/ [18:36] <inetpro> that is pointless [18:37] <inetpro> might as well just use Akregator [18:37] <inetpro> then again I guess it's not entirely pointless [18:38] <Kilos> http://is.gd/W9XBi2 [18:38] <Kilos> there are a few [18:38] <inetpro> I know [18:39] <Kilos> also what you doing about the tweet place [18:39] <inetpro> of those that I gave tested newsblur comes closest to google reader IMHO [18:39] <Kilos> birdie is growing quick [18:39] <inetpro> birdie is not for kde [18:39] <Kilos> can do multiple accounts already [18:40] <Kilos> huh [18:40] <confluency> It's not pointless if you already have a server. [18:40] <inetpro> confluency: true [18:41] <Kilos> hi psychicist [18:41] <Kilos> hi confluency [18:44] <confluency> 'Sup [18:45] <Kilos> all good ty and there [18:52] <nuvolari> eek [18:52] <nuvolari> vergeet ek is nog hier ook [18:52] <Kilos> what [18:52] <nuvolari> oh hi confluency [18:52] <Kilos> lol [18:52] <nuvolari> ltnc [18:52] <confluency> I'm always here; I just don't talk. ;) [18:53] * nuvolari watches his typing [18:53] <nuvolari> :P [18:53] <nuvolari> eyes might just catch stuff I say [18:54] <nuvolari> eh? google reader. now there's a luxury - following up on feeds [18:54] <nuvolari> I just end up clicking "Mark all as read" every 2 weeks :P [18:54] <Kilos> hehe [18:55] <nuvolari> Reddit became my latest news source, just bubbling up the most important links [18:56] <nuvolari> I wonder how many people are in the same bot as I am. I only got upset on Google Reader's retirement as it was cool to have and it is taken away [18:56] <nuvolari> but now that it's gone, I don't miss it [18:56] <nuvolari> and I don't use the alternatives as much as I did before the official kill-date :P [18:57] <nuvolari> it's like Oxygen: you only scrambe for more when you are running out of it [18:58] <inetpro> Kilos: Thunderbird also works as a twitter client [18:58] <Kilos> i use birdie [18:58] <inetpro> just not very intuitive [18:58] <nuvolari> twitter - another luxury :P [18:59] <Kilos> i use it for meeting announce ments [18:59] <Kilos> Maaz, announce Monthly meeting monday night guys [18:59] <Maaz> Announcement from Kilos! Monthly meeting monday night guys [19:01] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn what a hiding [19:18] <inetpro> Kilos: what happened? [19:18] <Kilos> when [19:18] <Kilos> oh the stormers thumped the bulls [19:18] <inetpro> * what a hiding [19:18] <inetpro> ah, ouch [19:20] <Kilos> hehe [19:21] <nuvolari> booyah! Gauteng is weer oorbevolk. Die bulle is terug aarde toe [19:21] <nuvolari> :P [19:21] <Kilos> haha [19:58] <Kilos> night all . sleep tight [19:58] <inetpro> Kilos: nou al? [19:58] <inetpro> dis nog nie 23:00 nie [19:58] <Kilos> ja man dis koud hier [19:59] <Kilos> hehe [19:59] <inetpro> ai! [19:59] <inetpro> goeie nag oom [19:59] <Kilos> nag boetie [20:25] <charl> Cantide: just listened to http://youtu.be/hgeAmF7bgoE [20:25] <charl> that's world class music [20:27] <Cantide> eh, [20:27] <Cantide> i just cliked [20:27] <Cantide> clicked * [20:27] <Cantide> and saw it's Shinee... [20:28] <Cantide> without even hearing it, i don't expect much :p [20:28] <Cantide> hmm [20:28] <Cantide> actually better than the last thing of theirs i saw :p [20:28] <Cantide> this is more my style though -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_XfXnFAUbA [20:29] <charl> no idea, it's the first and only thing i ever heard [20:29] <charl> of them [20:29] <Cantide> oh, i heard one of their songs about a year or two ago, really hated it :p [20:29] <charl> that girl has awesome legs! [20:30] <charl> i don't know if i like all these koreans dying their hair [20:31] <charl> are they trying to look like white people? [20:31] <Cantide> i like them with dark hair.. [20:31] <Cantide> she looks a bit like HyunA with that dyed hair -.- [20:31] <Cantide> eww [20:31] <charl> yeah the asians don't have the natural variation in hair colour that westerners have [20:31] <Cantide> yes, she does have nice legs :p [20:31] <Cantide> yes, so i think they dye it to stand out [20:32] <Cantide> but that colour is rather gross :p [20:32] <charl> yeah it looks terrible on an asian [20:32] <Cantide> yeah [20:32] <Cantide> ah well :p [20:32] <Cantide> 민아 will never do that because i will never permit it.. [20:32] <Cantide> maybe purple >_> [20:33] <charl> oh that 민아 she is cute [20:33] <charl> she is really cute ! [20:34] <Cantide> 'o' [20:34] <Cantide> wh.. who? 'o' [20:34] <Cantide> i was speaking about the 민아 that is mine '-';;; [20:34] <Cantide> i doubt you've seen her 'o' [20:34] <Cantide> unless there is something i don't know haha [20:35] <Cantide> which 민아 are you speaking of/ [20:35] <Cantide> ? [20:35] <charl> http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EB%AF%BC%EC%95%84 [20:35] <charl> sorry wrong one then :P [20:35] <charl> i just googled the name assumed it's an idol/artist [20:36] <Cantide> oh yeah, she is cute :p [20:36] <Cantide> but it's a different one '-';;; [20:36] <Cantide> luckily~ [20:36] <Cantide> wouldn't want to date a singer haha [20:36] <charl> : [20:36] <charl> :D [20:36] <charl> you got together with your korean girlfriend? [20:36] <charl> or is it a new one? [20:37] <Cantide> same one [20:37] <Cantide> it's been on and off for a few months now lol [20:37] <charl> ah i see, i thought you split up, but that's good to hear [20:37] <Cantide> we've split up multiple times =_= [20:37] <charl> :( [20:37] <Cantide> usually if that happens i'd just walk away [20:37] <Cantide> not sure what it is about this girl though.. [20:37] <Cantide> she seems to enjoy the pain :p [20:38] <charl> shame :( [20:38] <Cantide> ah, it's all good [20:38] <Cantide> we'll be fine once i am there [20:38] <Cantide> the distance is difficult for her [20:38] <charl> that's understandable [20:38] <Cantide> yeah [20:39] <Cantide> i just hope i can get everything together in time [20:39] <Cantide> the visa is quite a bit of work [20:39] <Cantide> and i only have about 2 weeks to get my docs to Korea -.- [20:46] <nlsthzn> Maaz, tell Kilos ya ya... good game stormers [20:46] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [22:03] <kbmonkey> yello === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za