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zryanafter this command (gksu nautilus) error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5869643/00:00
MeekenJason_Hudson: By someone trusted within the ubuntu community, like you just mentioned00:00
Jason_HudsonMeeken, no, they would have no reason to, as it's not in the repositories.00:00
MeekenJason_Hudson: So you don't know if it is trustworthy or not?00:01
Jason_HudsonMeeken, I don't care as I would just use what the repositories offer me if I ever was to use Tor. :P00:01
* Serelijah can finally see the light of knowing how apt-get works00:01
MeekenJason_Hudson: Aren't there packages or repostories or something outside of software center?00:01
Jason_HudsonMeeken, software center is just a front-end, most (if not all) of the stuff you get from there should come from Ubuntu's repositories.00:02
wilee-nileeMeeken, two top apps, honestly why are you messing with tor, anonymity is not really possible, especially if others want info. http://imagebin.org/26433800:03
MeekenJason_Hudson: Besides remembering someone telling me software center doesn't contain all packages, I have been told to use apt get name commands before not found in software center00:04
williamtdrnew question00:04
Jason_HudsonMeeken, apt-get gets stuff from Ubuntu's repositories.00:04
Jagst3r15what are the official dev tools for Ubuntu please?00:05
DoverMoMeeken, apt-get is included in ubuntu's core system. if you havent installed the synaptic package manager yet, you should00:05
williamtdrwhen I run in ssh: /home/lbuser/startup.sh, it executes. when I put in crontab for root: @reboot /home/lbuser/startup.sh nothing happens when the system reboots.00:05
MeekenJason_Hudson: In which case, i think there are repositories not shown by software center00:05
MeekenDoverMo: I think you got the wrong end of the stick there/are misunderstanding the conversation00:05
DoverMoMeeken, oh00:06
Jason_HudsonMeeken, Software Center should have access to every repo apt has access to.00:06
MeekenJason_Hudson: Are you speaking from more then theory?00:06
wilee-nileeJagst3r15, There a number that people use, get specific if you want any help.00:07
Jason_HudsonMeeken, I have seen paid apps in the Software Center, which you shouldn't be able to get using apt-get, thus Software Center should have access to more stuff AND whatever apt-get has access to.00:07
Jagst3r15I am looking to develop webapps for ubuntu sir00:08
MeekenJason_Hudson: What is your knowledge level and experience with ubuntu?00:08
wilee-nileeJagst3r15, Cool, I'm not your help, I was just nudging you for details, that is the key here. ;)00:08
williamtdrcould it be because I'm using a VPS?00:08
w30 williamtdr you run the script upon rhe boot up side or the shutdown side of reboot?00:10
w30rhe/the00:10
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williamtdrw30: boot up.00:11
mx8mangeris there any complinats about the 3.8.0-25-generic kernel my 3g huawei modem can connect to internet00:11
mx8mangercant00:12
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mx8mangercan't*00:12
w30williamtdr, maybe it's running to early try it in rc.local rc.local runs last in the boot up00:12
jason_hudsonMeeken, it's decent, I get my stuff done, why? Are you going to hire me?00:13
Meekenjason_hudson:  For judging the accuracy of your information of course.00:13
williamtdrw30: where is rc.local located?00:14
jason_hudsonMeeken, I only use apt, hardly ever used software centre...I know that software centre has access to apt's repos and its own (as it gives you access to paid apps that can't be managed by apt).00:14
w30depends on distro; try /etc/rc.local00:15
jason_hudsonMeeken, this isn't the point though, TorBrowser ain't in any, so you're pretty much stuck with what apt gives you if you want software that got any eyeballing from the Ubuntu's community, although I'll have to tell you that I suspect Tor's maintainer is from Debian.00:15
Meekenjason_hudson:  Which probably means its trustworthy, right? Plus that some of its programming is in the repository, that probably means all of it is trustworthy?00:17
jason_hudsonMeeken, the Ubuntu's repos are just a shelf where you go get your stuff, there isn't any programming there.00:18
SerelijahCan I scroll the terminal?00:18
jason_hudsonMeeken, who do you trust more? A mixed team of Ubuntu (community and Canonical's) and Debian devs or TorProject's ones?00:18
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Meekenjason_hudson:  Why are you putting it as either or? didn't you just say Tors maintainer is from debian? And if the mixed team have approved other tor software, the stuff not vetted is probably still safe?00:21
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jason_hudsonMeeken, TorBrowser comes from Tor devs themselves; Tor + Firefox etc comes from the softwares' devs AND Ubuntu/Debian's.00:22
Meekenjason_hudson: You said "I'll have to tell you that I suspect Tor's maintainer is from Debian."00:22
jason_hudsonMeeken, I said that about Ubuntu's Tor package.00:22
Ben64!ot00:23
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:23
Meekenjason_hudson: What was your point of saying that?00:24
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Ben64Meeken: take it to #offtopic or elsewhere00:24
MeekenThis is about ubuntu ben00:25
Ben64this is for ubuntu support only, not for things generally related to ubuntu00:26
MeekenBen64: Are you a ops?00:26
Ben64#ubuntu-offtopic exists for a reason. use it00:26
MeekenOK then, I will continue to seek support for my ubuntu and just ignore you00:27
Meekenjason_hudson00:28
MeekenStill there?00:28
IdleOnewether a user is an op or not makes no difference, he was trying to help you understand the channel rules. You should follow them please.00:31
MeekenIs it generally safe to say if a group has a bunch of packages approved for packaging, a program outside that is probably still safe, likely just something no one has gotten around to packaging?00:31
MeekenIdleOne: It matters if ben is commanding me to do things based on a incorrect interpretation of the rules00:31
MeekenI don't see what ben says as correct, and ben has about as much tact as a tack so I'm not inclined to pay him much mind either.00:32
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MeekenNow a ops interpretation of rules is final, so it wouldn't matter how much ben rubs me the wrong way or how much I doubt him, so yeah, it matters00:33
IdleOneMeeken: Ben64 is very familiar with the channel rules. I haven't read the entire scroll back but I tend to suspect he is correct. Anyway it would be nice if you could keep commentary in here restricted to ubuntu support and move meta-discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic00:33
MeekenFine, would you help me with my support inquiry then Idles?00:34
olsoneastill trying to figure out why my delete key is typing a number 1 instead of deleting00:34
olsoneaanyone got any ideas00:35
Noize__Hello, I'd like to either flash my bios or update it... Secure boot is kicking me in the butt, what or how can I go about doing this?00:35
MeekenThat sounds like a keyboard issue00:35
olsoneaMeeken: i created a new test user, and the key worked as expected, so i think it's a configuration issue00:35
olsoneai did change the default mapping back to us00:35
Meekenolsonea: The old standby of computer testing, replace and try. Try another keyboard on that PC, or try that keyboard on another PC00:35
Meekenolsonea: Ah, no idea then00:36
OerHeksNoize__, update UEFI/secure boot? see the site of your computerbrand.00:36
Noize__OerHeks, I am currently on it yet unable to find it00:38
kbooduolsonea: There are a variety of tools to re-map keys.  xmodmap is just one, so you might see if it's in your .xinitrc file or something similar for your window manager.00:38
Psil0cybinCan someone help me fix this00:44
Meekenolsonea:  I had a similar issue with my ubuntu once. I accidentally messed up my desktop, I can't remember from where, maybe someone sent me something, but I got a file I just needed to click on that replaced it back with default. Maybe if you can find something similar for keyboard layout00:44
Psil0cybinHey guys I just updated and I have this problem and cannot get into the GUI with the new update00:44
Psil0cybinhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/120080800:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1200808 in cedarview-drm-drivers (Ubuntu) "cedarview-drm 20120717-0ubuntu1: cedarview-drm kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New]00:44
Psil0cybincan someone help me please?00:44
olsoneathanks Meeken, kboodu00:44
_44trent3When I did the last command on this page to install proprieatary catalyst proprietary drivers. the page is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930450/. The error output was this: Selecting previously unselected package fglrx.00:44
_44trent3dpkg: regarding fglrx_8.961-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb containing fglrx:00:44
_44trent3 fglrx-legacy conflicts with fglrx00:44
_44trent3  fglrx (version 2:8.961-0ubuntu1) is to be installed.00:44
_44trent3dpkg: error processing fglrx_8.961-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--install):00:44
FloodBot1_44trent3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:44
Meekenolsonea: It would probably help those helping you, if you told em what you were doing before this happened, if you know00:44
_44trent3 conflicting packages - not installing fglrx00:44
_44trent3Selecting previously unselected package fglrx-amdcccle.00:44
Meeken!pastebin00:44
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:44
Noize__Is there a way to find out my motherboard information via terminal?00:44
olsoneaMeeken: true. i don't recall the specific change that precipitated this however00:44
_44trent3Any ideas?00:44
olsoneai've lived with it for a while00:44
OerHeksNoize__, in terminal: sudo lshw00:44
kbooduNoize__: dmesg will show some things.  lshw some additional descriptions.00:44
Meekenolsonea: Are you due for a update? Perhaps you can fresh install ubuntus newest version and have it fixed, and if it isn't fixed after that, at least you know its a setting in /home00:44
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kbooduMeeken: Since he created a new user and the keyboard worked correctly (from what he posted), then it's probably something in the configuration for the user account.00:45
olsoneaMeeken: just updated to 13.04 yesterday00:45
Meekenkboodu: And those are stored in /home I take it?00:45
kbooduMeeken: Specifically in ~/00:45
kbooduMeeken: But it may be one of the files somewhere in ~/.config/ or another dot file in the home directory.00:46
Meekenkboodu: What is ~ short for again?00:46
olsoneai'm combing ~/.config at the moment00:46
Psil0cybinCan anyone help me00:47
Psil0cybinhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/120080800:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1200808 in cedarview-drm-drivers (Ubuntu) "cedarview-drm 20120717-0ubuntu1: cedarview-drm kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New]00:47
Psil0cybinAfter an Update i cannot get into my GUI00:47
kbooduolsonea: You might want to google 'keyboard mapping ubuntu' or something similar for the commands that would be re-mapping keys00:47
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Meeken!ask Psil0cybin00:47
Meeken!ask00:47
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:47
kbooduPsil0cybin: Have you looked at the log files in /var/log?  Maybe start with /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors using the command line?00:48
Meekenkboodu: What is ~ short for again?00:49
kbooduMeeken: ~ is your accounts home directory.00:49
OerHeksshort ~/ = /home/$USER/00:50
kbooduMeeken: If my username (based on /etc/passwd) is kboodu, then ~ would be /home/kboodu00:50
kbooduBetter answer OerHeks!00:50
Meekenty, both work fine, I was told before, but I forgot what it was00:50
OerHeksPsil0cybin, how did you install that driver, build manually?00:51
AfflictoHey all. I have 3 hard drives on my PC. and one of them has win 7 on it, the rest is for storage. What's the best way to install ubuntu? I can't afford to lose anything tho.00:52
Psil0cybinNo through the update maanger OerHeks00:52
AfflictoI was thinking wubi but I heard it's kinda slow.00:52
Psil0cybinkboodu, it showed me this crash report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/1200808https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/120080800:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1200808 in cedarview-drm-drivers (Ubuntu) "cedarview-drm 20120717-0ubuntu1: cedarview-drm kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New]00:52
Psil0cybinit seems to be something with the drivers but im a new ubuntu user00:52
Psil0cybinright now to get into my GUI i had to fall back to a previous version00:52
MeekenAfflicto: Do you want to duel boot with win7?00:52
Psil0cybinin the boot screen,00:52
AfflictoMeeken: Oh, I didn't say that. Yes I want dualboot :P00:52
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Psil0cybinis there a way to uninstall an update00:52
Psil0cybinand keep back the working version?00:52
Psil0cybinbecause if I do not specifically pick the build it boots into the new updated version and leaves me in a terminal00:53
Psil0cybinand boots without a gui00:53
kbooduPsil0cybin: You can boot to an earlier kernel (if it's still installed in /boot).00:53
MeekenAfflicto: There are a number of ways to dual boot, keep in mind that linux and windows like very different FSs00:54
Meekenfile systems00:54
Psil0cybinokay but how would I uninstall the new kernal so it auto boots into the working version00:54
kbooduPsil0cybin: But I'm not familiar enough with building the grub menu for that...00:54
AfflictoMeeken: yeah I've had some trouble with that before00:54
Ben64Psil0cybin: you should fix the problem instead of avoiding updates00:54
MeekenAfflicto: How much do you want to access the same files from either OS?00:54
kbooduPsil0cybin: I think you just want it automatically select the "older" kernel.  But you should fix the problem00:54
AfflictoMeeken: very much so. I like to go back and forth between win and ubuntu00:55
kbooduPsil0cybin: You need to look at why the module didn't install correctly.00:55
CardsI think you can just delete the update and load an older image.00:55
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MeekenAfflicto: One option is to install ubuntu, then build win7 in a VM on top of it, or visa versa, it bypasses the issue of FS00:57
Psil0cybinSeems like Title: cedarview-drm 20120717-0ubuntu1: cedarview-drm kernel module failed to build00:57
Psil0cybin  Ben64 , kboodu ,00:57
OerHeksAfflicto, let win7 decrease your partition, and let the ubuntu installer use the free space00:58
AfflictoOerHeks: what do you mean decrease?00:58
Ben64Psil0cybin: i'm not familiar with that package, but make sure you have kernel headers for your kernel version installed00:59
OerHeksdiskmanagment can handle decreasing partitions ( maing it smaller in a safe way)00:59
kbooduPsil0cybin: What is cedarview-drm?  Do you really need it?00:59
MeekenAfflicto: Do you have a UEFI motherboard? If not, linuxs GPT system will not work with windows7 I think. GPT makes partitioning so much simpler then the alternative, which I believe is MBR00:59
AfflictoMeeken: I have UEFI mobo. I have GUI with mouse etc in bios, that counts as yes doesn't it? :P00:59
OerHeksubuntu can handle gpt00:59
Psil0cybinI am not sure but were would I remove it in the previous version or the new update00:59
Psil0cybinI am kinda new to linux thats why this problem seems a little scary to me01:00
OerHeks!uefi01:00
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI01:00
Psil0cybinAll i did was update01:00
kbooduPsil0cybin: Do you have an Atom chip in your system?01:00
OerHeksmeeken, please use fact, i am tired of correcting assumptions01:00
Psil0cybinyes01:00
Psil0cybinIntel Atom01:00
Psil0cybinwhat can I do01:01
MeekenAfflicto: OerHeks I don't know about that. resizing is troublesome. And it won't be GPT that way01:01
kbooduPsil0cybin: What version of Ubuntu?01:01
Psil0cybin12.0401:01
Psil0cybinkboodu,01:01
Psil0cybinIt has been perfectly stable till this update01:02
Psil0cybinI constantly updated it01:02
Psil0cybinjust havent in the last week because I didnt use the laptop01:02
Ben64Psil0cybin: when did you install it originally?01:03
kbooduPsil0cybin: I don't know enough to help you further debug it.  If it's a known issue, maybe you'll get a patch with the next kernel update.01:03
MeekenAfflicto: I will have to dig through my notes and look through SE but, something like setting up your partitions with ubuntu/gpart from a live flash drive or disk in a specific way with UEFI in mind, then installing windows, then installing ubuntu. Windows destroys linuxs boot menu, that can be recreated but this bypasses it01:03
Ben64Psil0cybin: and when did you install cedarview-drm01:03
Psil0cybinCedarview-drm has been installed since I started using the system01:03
Psil0cybinOkay if I need to wait till the next kernal update, would I keep using the Previous Version of ubuntu till the update icon pops up again01:04
Psil0cybinat the top?01:04
MeekenOerHeks: This is not a assumption, UEFI is required by win7 to handle GPT from what I recall01:04
Ben64Psil0cybin: and when did you install ubuntu?01:04
Psil0cybina few months ago01:04
Psil0cybinactually in march01:05
Psil0cybinmaybe april01:05
Psil0cybinlike springish01:05
Ben64Psil0cybin: could you pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep -i linux"01:05
AfflictoMeeken: ok so I have to re-install win 7 then?01:05
Psil0cybinwell right now im on a previous version of ubuntu01:05
Psil0cybinwould that still help?01:05
Ben64Afflicto: no01:05
MeekenAfflicto: I don't know if a mouse in bios means UEFI, I don't think it does, you should specifically check your model of motherboard to see01:06
kbooduPsil0cybin: Is this Ubuntu or Xubuntu?01:06
Psil0cybinXubuntu01:06
Noize__Well I have no Bios updates at all... And Lenovo does not help with downloading any bios updates, due to the fact that they do not recommend or support bios updating...01:06
Ben64Afflicto: you said you have multiple hard drives. you can install ubuntu to the 2nd or 3rd drive and not have to mess with the windows one at all01:06
Noize__well idk if i have any bios updates01:06
Ben64Psil0cybin: yeah it'd still help, it would show all the packages you have installed01:06
MeekenAfflicto: Yes, put your data on something else, win7 will have used MBR or whatever, not the preferred GPT, and you can't easily change this after the fact01:07
MeekenI mean preserve your data and prepare for a new install of stuff01:07
kbooduPsil0cybin: What does 'uname -a' show?01:07
tgm4883Meeken, I don't think UEFI is required for Windows 7 GPT disks01:07
Psil0cybinBen64, http://pastebin.com/6esbiHPj01:08
AfflictoMeeken:I have UEFI yes. ok I'll put my stuff on a USB drive or my laptop then.01:08
Psil0cybinkboodu, Linux stashb0x 3.2.0-48-generic-pae #74-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 20:05:01 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux01:08
Psil0cybinthis is the version that works01:08
Psil0cybinbut its auto set to 49 or something01:08
Psil0cybinlike that01:08
Noize__I'd like to update my bios, yet my computer brand doesnt have anything for bios updates... What can i do>?01:08
Psil0cybinso if i turn off my computer and turn it on, i will be stuck with a black screen or the manual terminal01:08
kbooduPsil0cybin: You reported that it's for version -49 and you're running -48.  Sounds like there's a mismatch someplace - like you don't have the correct kernel01:09
tgm4883Noize__, uh, why do you want to update your bios?01:09
Psil0cybinno no no01:09
Psil0cybin49 is the version I cannot get into01:09
Serelijah"apt-get install xterm" "xterm is already the newest version" "unknown terminal type: xterm" Something is not right here.01:09
Psil0cybinim runinng 48 because Its the only version where i can see the GUI01:09
Psil0cybinif i log into 4901:09
Noize__tgm4883, Secure boot is a pain in the butt...01:09
Psil0cybini get a manual terminal01:09
Psil0cybinand there is no GUI01:09
Psil0cybinso i had to restart and go back to 48 to be able to connect right now01:09
Noize__My bios is incomplete i feel as well01:09
Psil0cybinall i can do with 49 is type startx to start gnome01:10
tgm4883Noize__, well then A) you don't have a BIOS to update, and B) then turn it off?01:10
Psil0cybini dont know the commands for xubuntu01:10
Noize__tgm4883, that is the issue... There isn't an option to turn it off >.<01:10
kbooduPsil0cybin: What?01:10
kbooduAre you running Gnome or Xfce?01:10
Psil0cybinXfce01:10
mastr[x]bennetthey guys. I have an error which is saying "No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already"01:10
tgm4883Noize__, :(01:10
tgm4883Noize__, what laptop?01:10
Noize__tgm4883, that is why i'm looking for an update... My brand Lenovo doesnt support/recommend Bios updates... So i can't find a link for it01:11
mastr[x]bennetti don't have a /var/crash with any files though.01:11
Noize__tgm4883, Lenovo Ideapad Z57001:11
mastr[x]bennettwould anyone here be able to tell me what's going on?01:11
Psil0cybinkboodu, Xfce, after the update with the new version 49, It would not let me see any GUI01:11
Ben64Psil0cybin: could you pastebin "df -h" and "ls /boot"01:11
Psil0cybinit would take me directly into the terminal01:11
kbooduPsil0cybin: So you have multiple Window Managers installed?01:11
mastr[x]bennettit seems that "apport" is misbehaving. but what is it? should I just uninstall it (this is a server)?01:11
Noize__tgm4883, I have an Emerald Lake Motherboard01:11
Psil0cybinhttp://pastebin.com/a9JEeVDQ01:12
tgm4883mastr[x]bennett, I didn't think apport was installed on Ubuntu server01:12
Psil0cybinhttp://pastebin.com/6H8thBsT01:12
Psil0cybinben6401:12
Psil0cybinyes multiple managers01:12
Psil0cybinbut I only want Xfce01:12
coolstarhow do I search with in the contents of files inside a folder01:13
coolstarI'd prefer being able to do this in Nautilus, although Terminal's ok for me01:13
Psil0cybinI know01:13
kbooduPsil0cybin: And you have nothing in your ~/.xsession-errors file?01:14
mastr[x]bennetttgm4883 you're correct.01:14
tgm4883Noize__, sorry, I'm not finding anything :/01:14
mastr[x]bennettthe package that i'm trying to install is iptables-persistent. it gives me that error after i get through the configuration.01:14
Ben64Psil0cybin: ok, it does actually seem like a bug or something, give me like 5 mins to set up a VM to check :)01:15
tgm4883mastr[x]bennett, iptables...why..... nm01:15
tgm4883!info apport | mastr[x]bennett01:15
ubottumastr[x]bennett: apport (source: apport): automatically generate crash reports for debugging. In component main, is optional. Version 2.9.2-0ubuntu8.1 (raring), package size 173 kB, installed size 1140 kB01:15
Noize__tgm4883, yeah i know :/ This is my third time re-install Ubuntu... This time it's the worst, i'm total lost on the Secure boot situtation01:15
Psil0cybinYea but i feel like its just for my aspire one01:15
tgm4883Noize__, are you using 13.04?01:15
Noize__tgm4883, yupp01:16
tgm4883Noize__, I'm out of ideas then :/ I disabled secureboot on my laptop01:16
tgm4883Noize__, there isn't an option for legacy mode?01:16
mastr[x]bennettnot the iptables package, iptables-persistent. it's an init script which is supposed to save iptable rules and load them again at startup.01:16
Noize__tgm4883, not to my knowledge01:16
MeekenAfflicto:  A additional point to what I said before, you use gpart to built your partition table first, but leave some empty space for windows 7 to carve out itself from what I recall.01:17
tgm4883mastr[x]bennett, yea, I don't understand why you don't use UFW01:17
Noize__tgm4883, the othertimes i did this i just used repair boot to fix it01:17
Ben64Psil0cybin: did you install ubuntu and put on xfce, or installed xubuntu?01:17
Noize__tgm4883, this time the repair boot has changed and i'm unsure what to select01:17
mastr[x]bennetttgm4883 because I want iptables. not ufw.01:17
Psil0cybininstalled Ubuntu01:18
tgm4883mastr[x]bennett, ah ok, so then no technical reason then01:18
Psil0cybinthen01:18
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Psil0cybinwent sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop01:18
mastr[x]bennetttgm4883 nope. i want to write the rules by hand and learn the syntax.01:18
Pinkamen1_Dmy wireless will not disconnect or connect to other networks. I have tried restarting network manager01:18
Psil0cybinmaybe i should try01:18
Psil0cybinstartxfce401:18
Psil0cybinin terminal whne trying 4901:18
Ben64Psil0cybin: nah, thats not good stuff01:18
Psil0cybinsigh01:18
Ben64you can mess up your x session by doing that kind of thing01:18
AfflictoMeeken: you mean gparted? cause I have used it. I used it to fix something. I didn't know much of what I was doing tho just followed a guide or something :P01:19
kbooduPsil0cybin: Please don't use Enter for punctuation.  It makes it hard to follow.01:19
tgm4883mastr[x]bennett, iptables on ubuntu doesn't read from a conf file?01:19
FloodBot1Psil0cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:19
Psil0cybinso is it cedarview?01:19
MeekenAfflicto: Yes I do mean gparted, just abbreviating :p01:19
Ben64Psil0cybin: the problem is that it's looking for `/boot/config-3.2.0-49-generic' when you have generic-pae01:19
Ben64Psil0cybin: setting up a vm to see if 32 bit ubuntus have both the -generic and -generic-pae installed, you may just have too many headers01:20
Pinkamen1_Dnetwork manager is not responding to any button presses, basically01:20
MeekenAfflicto: lIke I said, a live load (usb is better) to run gpart from works fine01:20
Psil0cybinoh okay! so would it be easy to fix hypathetically ben6401:20
mastr[x]bennetttgm4883 not that i'm aware of for 12.0401:20
Ben64Psil0cybin: i mean you can try it yourself, but if it wants to remove more than just the headers, abandon that plan01:21
MeekenAfflicto:  that same live can also be used to install from latter, and you can also use it to try it out if your not sure what flavor of ubuntu to use01:21
AfflictoMeeken: alright. I'm in the process of backing up stuff from about 2 years of work so it'll take some time :P01:21
Pinkamen1_Dany ideas?01:21
tgm4883mastr[x]bennett, ok, so back to your original question, do you have files in /var/crash/01:21
tgm4883mastr[x]bennett, actually, http://askubuntu.com/questions/31667/what-does-no-apport-report-written-because-maxreports-is-reached-already-mean01:21
Psil0cybinBen64 im late to pick up my girlfriend from work could you write what you just wrote here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162038&p=12729118#post12729118 so the second i get home I can follow anything you figured out01:22
mastr[x]bennetttgm4883 been there :-) i have no /var/crash directory01:22
Ben64Psil0cybin: sure thing01:22
tgm4883mastr[x]bennett, /tmp apport files then?01:22
Psil0cybinthank you so much your the best!! im goinjg totry and fix this issue in a few hours01:22
Psil0cybinonce i cook the kids some food01:22
Psil0cybinand will have some time to my self01:22
kbooduPsil0cybin: Good luck.01:22
Psil0cybinthank you kboodu !01:22
Psil0cybinill be back shortly01:22
mastr[x]bennetttgm4883 not a thing in there01:23
tgm4883mastr[x]bennett, plenty of disk space on ALL your partitions?01:23
mastr[x]bennetttgm4883 remember apport isn't installed on this system. so there's no reason for apport files to exist01:24
mastr[x]bennettand yes, there is sufficient space01:24
PhysGreetings.01:24
tgm4883mastr[x]bennett, can you pastebin the full error message and surrounding lines?01:24
PhysI need your help guys.01:25
tgm4883mastr[x]bennett, and also 'dpkg -l apport'01:25
PhysI want to install an amd driver from init 3 level and I get an error: 'sax2 is not a typo...' What should I do? Install a sax2 package?01:26
Ben64init 3 doesn't do what you think it does01:27
mastr[x]bennetttgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5869787/01:27
PhysBen64: What you mean?01:27
Meekentgm4883: OerHeks http://paste.ubuntu.com/5869791/01:28
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Ben64Phys: init 3 doesn't do anything, what are you trying to do specifically?01:28
MeekenSo you were wrong, I was right OerHeks :p01:29
tgm4883Meeken, keep it civil01:29
tgm4883mastr[x]bennett, yea, that is weird01:29
PhysBen64: Install the amd driver. After install I ran sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx, and I got an error..01:30
OerHeksMeeken there must be some confusion here, i stated ubuntu can handle gpt, so both are right.01:32
OerHekssee gdisk an gparted afaik, fdisk does not handle gpt.01:32
MeekenOerHeks: I never said ubuntu couldn't handle gpt, the topic is dual booting with win701:33
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Noize_OerHeks, I do have USB Legacy enable/disable01:34
Noize_OerHeks, do I want that enabled or disabled?01:34
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randomaussiemorning all... i'm treying to put gnome3 on my ubuntu13.04 and all the guide i'm following that i can google down i get getting "failed to fetch errors"... anyone know of a working guide or have adive for me?01:35
Meekenrandomaussie: Isn't unity built on gnome 3, thus gnome 3 already present?01:36
mastr[x]bennetttgm4883: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2076892 it's a package bug it seems01:36
randomaussiemeeken: i dont know what unity is based off... i just want hte ordinary gnome3 desktop.. i dont like unity01:37
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OerHeksNoize_, enabled, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI01:38
tgm4883mastr[x]bennett, thats what I was thinking, but the pizza guy came01:38
Ben64Phys: ok... so whats sax201:38
mastr[x]bennetttgm4883 is there any way to skip dpkg trying to configure?01:39
Meekenrandomaussie: Are you sure you don't mean gnome 2? I like gnome 2 myself, might try xfce01:39
Meekenor perhaps mate01:39
MeekenI don't believe gnome 3 is that different from unity, from what I have read01:40
randomaussiemeeken:honestly i'm not sure what i mean... but i dont like hte interface for unity.. so i'm trying to get the gnome desktop to install and i keep getting failed to fetch errors01:40
Ben64randomaussie: pastebin exactly what you're typing and the resulting error01:41
wilee-nileerandomaussie, The gnome shell?01:41
tgm4883mastr[x]bennett, you might be able to download the package and use dpkg to force the install01:41
Meekenrandomaussie: What I am saying is, you might not like gnome 3 either, if you don't like unity. So you might want to try to get a different Desktop Environment then that01:42
anythingDoes anyone know how to use parted magic to convert an NTFS partition to ext4 without loosing data?01:43
Ben64anything: backup, format, restore01:44
wilee-nileeanything, I don't believe possible safely. what is on the ntfs?01:44
randomaussieok.. was following this guide... http://www.itworld.com/software/358052/install-gnome-shell-38-ubuntu-130401:44
anythingBen64: I was told there was an automated process, where it would resize empty space as ext4, copy data over, then shrink ntfs partition, then resize ext4, then copy more data, etc. In an automated way01:44
randomaussiewhen i do an apt-get update i got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5869821/01:44
Ben64randomaussie: we can't support ppa software here, sorry01:44
randomaussieoh ok01:45
randomaussiecan you point me to a guideto install the gnome3 shell then please01:45
Ben64randomaussie: gnome-shell is in the default repositories though, if you wanted to use that01:45
wilee-nileerandomaussie, THe shel is in the repos, run ppa-purge and purge the ppa in that link and then run sudo apt-get install gnome-shell01:45
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randomaussiethank you red guys.. will try all that01:46
wilee-nileerandomaussie, You have added a ppa remove that with ppa-purge before doing the install.01:46
Ben64randomaussie: also, it looks like your repositories for ubuntu are broken. you should use a different one01:46
delinquentmedoes anyone have pics of the new UI???01:48
randomaussieben64: nothing should be broken... this is a completely fresh/clean install of ubuntu13.04 straight from usb and should be fully updated (afaik)01:49
Ben64randomaussie: its not your fault, either your internet or the au server for ubuntu is down01:49
wilee-nileedelinquentme, http://unity.ubuntu.com/01:49
delinquentmewilee-nilee, I mean Mir01:50
Ben64randomaussie: Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com raring-updates/main Sources   503  Service unavailable [IP: 202.158.214.106 80]01:50
delinquentmefo 1301:50
wilee-nileedelinquentme, Never seen one, it will be in 13.10 as xmir, ask in #ubuntu+1.01:50
randomaussieben64: ok... i'lll work out to use a different repository01:53
randomaussiethanlks01:53
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guidemariohi there ... is possible to create a simple bash script file to be ran by clicking on the file instead of opening the terminal and executing through there?02:11
Adonis_Cam02:13
SonikkuAmericaguidemario: Just [ chmod +x ] the file to be run (there is a graphical frontend for it if you right-click the file, select Properties, and then select the Permissions tab.) You must own the file to change permissions on it.02:13
tgm4883guidemario, you should already be able to do that if it's marked executable02:13
guidemarioit's already as executable, but when i click on it, it opens the text editor to edit the lines of the code instead of running the script02:14
SonikkuAmericaguidemario: Did you restart, log out and back in, or [ source ~/.bashrc ] after you changed the permissions?02:15
guidemariono, i did not logout or did anything, just changed the permission and tried to execute it02:16
guidemarioI'll restart my pc and see if it works02:16
fuzzybunny69yhey guys I have two folders and I want to make sure that everything that is in folder 1 is in folder 2 and everything that is in folder 2 is in folder 1. Does anyone know how I would do this with rsync?02:17
Ben64fuzzybunny69y: rsync -avP 1/* 2/; rsync -avP 2/* 1/02:18
fuzzybunny69ythanks Ben6402:19
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PyR3Xwhat is the best way to add file permission for 'other' and them be the same as for 'user' and 'group'? i.e. things in /path/to/bin/myfile is r-xr-x--- and i want it to be r-x-r-x-r-x but files in say /path/to/afile is r--r----- and i want it to be r--r--r--02:33
SonikkuAmericaPyR3X: Use [ chmod 444 ] in your example.02:34
SonikkuAmericaPyR3X: Or for +r and +x, use [ chmod 555 ]02:34
PyR3XSonikkuAmerica: I want to recursively do this for a directory but mimick the permissions that were already set for say group on the file and make them for other as well02:35
SonikkuAmericaPyR3X: It's the same for directories... but to also do it on all files inside the directory, cd to the directory and [ chmod 555 * ]02:35
SonikkuAmerica(For +r and +x)02:36
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skath_PyR3X, chmod -R o=g /path02:36
PyR3XSonikkuAmerica: but some files in the directory are 440 and same are 550.. I want to make files that are 440, 444, and files that are 550 55502:36
PyR3Xskath_: thanks02:36
SonikkuAmericaPyR3X: What skath_  said should do the trick to *assign* group permissions to owner permissions.02:37
PyR3XSonikkuAmerica: yes that's what I was looking for thank you02:37
SonikkuAmericaPyR3X: Yep. There you are. (Just providing the details.) :D02:38
randomaussieben64: thanks but i change my repository to the main server and everything seems to be working properly now02:42
randomaussiebud****02:42
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lahwranhow do you install ubuntu on a computer (lenovo t430) with windows 8 preinstalled and a whacky partition table type?02:48
lahwranfile claims: /dev/sdb: x86 boot sector; partition 1; id=0xee, starthead 0, startsector 1, <bignumber> sectors, extended partition table (last)\011, code offset 0x002:49
lahwran(the file command, that is)02:49
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joshc133Is this the channel for general Ubuntu chat or support?02:52
lahwransupport02:52
joshc133Thanks.02:52
Psil0cybinBen64, So ..... now randomly it works every 3rd restart...how random is that when I turn off my computer and keep trying eventually it works02:53
Psil0cybinjust its not on every time, like if i shut it down now and try again im sure it will show the terminal login screen instead of the GUI02:53
Psil0cybinnow im in 49 but i feel like its not stable02:54
Psil0cybinbecause it doesnt work as expected every time02:54
Art12345How do I get an image file of the 'copy' and the 'move' icons in Unity??? This is the little hand symbol that pops up when you left click on a folder and hold the left mouse switch closed. If the file is being copied, the hand symbol includes a small plus sign, if being moved, it changes to a small arrow.  It is that image that I want to capture.02:54
Gilligan94!pastebin02:57
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:57
KriShaNsinhey, I decided to get a new computer to run saucy salamander on. Unity is quite resource intensive for this netbook here so i got a Lenovo Thinkpad x220 i7 2640m 2.8ghz 8gb RAm 160ssd. is this gonna be okay for running saucy salamander on?03:00
kostkonKriShaNsin, obviously03:01
KriShaNsinkostkon: woot :)03:01
KriShaNsinkostkon: I like it because its ugly as hell but under the hood it seems to have what i am going to need to take over the world. I live in thailand and dont want any haters glancing at my laptop. its so ugly that even my momma thought it was from the 90's.03:04
kostkonKriShaNsin, :P i think it looks fine03:05
archhi everyone!, can someone help, i have a question about ubuntu03:05
SonikkuAmerica!ask | arch03:05
ubottuarch: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:05
bazhang!ot | KriShaNsin03:05
ubottuKriShaNsin: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:05
archhaha thanks, its about mac cloning in the network, if it is cloned will anyone still find out what my mac address is?03:06
TobarjaAny suggestions on alternatives to gnome-terminal?03:07
bazhangTobarja, apt-cache search term and have a look03:07
bazhangarch try ##networking03:08
Tobarjabazhang: I'll take a look, thanks.03:09
kiwisshowing error while connected wifi, network service discovery disable. how to enable..03:10
joshc133I'm going to try to make this as simple as possible, and I would like to thank everyone beforehand. Thanks. The PC I will be referring to this is message is a Desktop PC with a UEFI motherboard, which originally had Windows 7 installed to an SSD, with the User folder moved to the HDD. I decided to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7. I did not use Wubi and I properly installed Ubuntu to the HDD. I made all the correct partition03:13
joshc133s and whatnot, but after the initial reboot, I could not boot into Ubuntu. I googled around and decided to boot into the LIVE CD and run boot-repair to fix my boot issues. It told me that it would completely uninstall any instances of GRUB on my SSD and HDD, and then put a copy of GRUB onto both drives. After running boot-repair and rebooting, I was able to boot into Ubuntu. I restarted the computer and attempted to boot into03:13
joshc133Windows 7, but after choosing it from the GRUB menu, it said "device not found". So here is where I am at now... I boot from HDD into either OS; reboot; "device not found" before GRUB loads, or after I choose Windows from the GRUB menu; change default boot to  SSD; boot into either OS perfectly fine; next reboot "device not found" before GRUB menu or after I choose Windows from GRUB menu; change default boot to HDD;;;; Wash, r03:13
FloodBot1joshc133: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:13
joshc133inse, repeat... I am not sure what is going on here. I am guessing that somehow one GRUB is messing with the other, but I can always boot from one disk or the other. If I get "device not found" error, I simply boot from the other disk, and it boots just fine into either OS. One disk always boots, it just changes each boot. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask. My answer03:13
macwolf74good god03:13
coolstarany developers here mind telling me what the "?=" operator does in a makefile?03:15
kostkoncoolstar, better try in #ubuntu-app-devel03:15
wilee-nileejoshc133, Put that in a thread at the ubuntu forums with the bootinfo summary, yout bet help is there m-f daytime.03:15
wilee-nileebest03:16
joshc133wilee-nilee, Thanks much.03:17
kiwishow to chat with friends with terminal?03:29
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TobarjaOmG23: can you be a little more specific, about what you're trying to accomplish?03:30
strottwhen looking at the properties of a drive (right-click -> properties from gui), is there a way to increase the sig figs displayed for storage capacity (ie see tens place # of GB with a TB drive)03:30
OmG23connect with orther laptop using terminal..03:30
xanguaOmG23: that doesn't sound like 'chatting with friends'03:31
joshc133I have never had to use the Ubuntu forums before, but I have an issue that I need to post there. Is there a certain "sub-forum" I should post in, if I am having a GRUB/ boot issue?03:32
OmG23?03:32
strottyes ?03:32
wilee-nileejoshc133, nope just to the main area, not exactly a grub issue03:34
joshc133Okay, thanks once again, wilee-nilee!03:34
ChogyDananyone know why chrome stays open in the background?03:34
wilee-nileeChogyDan, After closing, firefox does that once in awhile to.03:35
ChogyDan:/03:37
MyrttiChogyDan: you Can disable that in the extensions settings03:37
Myrttiiirc03:38
ChogyDanMyrtti: ah cool, Ill check that out03:38
we6jboHello03:38
ChogyDanMyrtti: that did it, thanks03:39
MyrttiChogyDan: np03:39
Psil0cybinHey Guys I need your help I just ungraded my Xubuntu with all the recommended files03:42
Psil0cybinand now03:42
Psil0cybinwhen ever i start up my computer it either goes to just a plain terminal without a GUI or a blackscreen or works after a few restarts and finally shows me a GUI how can i diagnose my problem03:42
Psil0cybinit seems to not be stable and starts working randomly and doesnt work everytime it works every 4th restart or shutdown03:42
ChogyDanPsil0cybin: for gui issues like that I would start with /var/log/X.0.log03:43
ChogyDanPsil0cybin: sorry, /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:44
Psil0cybinokay let me check03:44
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Psil0cybinChogyDan, this is what im getting http://pastebin.com/6TpBPqTG03:45
ChogyDanPsil0cybin: is that from a boot that did not work?03:48
lotuspsychjemorning to all03:51
insmod<Psil0cybin>looks like you are missing your gui font size files03:55
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Psil0cybinChogyDan, no its from a boot when i finally got into the GUI03:56
Psil0cybinand was able to get to you guys03:56
Psil0cybininsmod, what can I do, it worked perfectly fine before...03:56
Psil0cybinand Its working now03:56
Psil0cybinbut if i shut down and restart it wont work03:56
ChogyDanPsil0cybin: maybe save a copy from a boot that doesn't work.  The Xorg.0.log should be from just the latest boot, and if it is working...03:57
insmod<Psil0cybin>just add all the font sizes and it should work03:57
Psil0cybinHow do I add font sizes insmod im new to linux03:58
Psil0cybinand I think this is from when I just got in from the crash03:58
Psil0cybinhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/120080803:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1200808 in cedarview-drm-drivers (Ubuntu) "cedarview-drm 20120717-0ubuntu1: cedarview-drm kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New]03:58
Psil0cybinI think it might be caused by the cedarview-drm drivers that I had03:58
Psil0cybincould that be?03:58
CaseyTrying to automount a raid1 volume during bootup. Can someone tell me if the last two lines (the raid volume) is type correctly in the fstab please  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5870022/04:01
Psil0cybinI posted a thread here04:02
Psil0cybinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162063&p=12729242#post1272924204:02
Psil0cybinIf anyone can help me id really appreciate it04:02
Psil0cybinI want my system to be stable again instead of resorting to  3.2.0-48-generic-pae04:02
vriyerive been redirected here from ubuntu touch04:02
lotuspsychje!ask | vriyer04:03
ubottuvriyer: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:03
Casey!patience | Casey04:04
ubottuCasey, please see my private message04:04
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Casey:D04:04
vriyerim compiling ubuntu touch for salsa. 800mHz processor. has anyone tried ubuntu touch on an 800mhz arm v6l processor?04:05
lotuspsychjevriyer: this is an ubuntu support channel mate04:06
bazhang#ubuntu-arm vriyer04:06
insmod<Psil0cybin>how much ram you have04:06
randomaussiei feel this is a very stupid question.... i cant browse my windows box's from my ubuntu box after i reinstalled ubuntu... am i missing a package?04:07
Caseyrandomaussie: Samba?04:08
lotuspsychjerandomaussie: what version of ubuntu did you have and wich you have now?04:08
Caseyrandomaussie: nvm, I read your question wrong.04:08
randomaussieLotus:  have 12.10 before and i have 13.04 now04:08
Psil0cybin1GB insmod04:08
Psil0cybininsmod: but everything worked perfectly fine till the update04:09
Psil0cybinIts a netbook04:09
Psil0cybinan Acer Aspire One04:09
insmod<Psil0cybin>then that's it04:09
Psil0cybinSo i cannot update?04:09
Psil0cybini should stick with the older version?04:09
Psil0cybinI do not understand04:09
Psil0cybinI thought it was drivers04:10
Psil0cybinthat were causing the problems, because I am after all here now04:10
lotuspsychjePsil0cybin: i have acer aspire one with 13.04 64bit and worsk flawless04:10
insmod<Psil0cybin> -pae is a kernel for over 4g of ram04:10
insmod<Psil0cybin> install a diff kernel04:10
Psil0cybinbut 3.2.0-49-generic-pae04:11
lotuspsychjerandomaussie: how did you browse your win box before?04:11
Psil0cybini mean 3.2.0-48-generic-pae04:11
Psil0cybinworked perfectly fine04:11
Psil0cybinits only 3.2.0-49-generic-pae  that has a problem04:11
Psil0cybini still had a pae04:11
FloodBot1Psil0cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:11
Psil0cybinkernal04:11
insmod<Psil0cybin> ya just a flook04:11
randomaussielotus: file brower and clicked network.. and my windows box's showed... didnt have to open work group04:11
insmod<Psil0cybin> new kernel should do it04:12
Psil0cybinhjvcx04:12
Psil0cybin0-[=]04:12
Psil0cybinso what do i do stick with the older kernal04:13
Psil0cybinbut someone on here before told me to not do that and to diagnose and ifgure out the problem04:13
Psil0cybinim so confused now :(04:13
Psil0cybininsmod, are you sure https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/1200808 isnt the issue?04:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1200808 in cedarview-drm-drivers (Ubuntu) "cedarview-drm 20120717-0ubuntu1: cedarview-drm kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New]04:14
insmod<Psil0cybin> i just did - install a new one or stick with old just if you install a new onw don't use -pae04:14
lotuspsychjerandomaussie: maybe this can help: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/04/how-to-access-windows-network-shares-in-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/04:14
Psil0cybininsmod, how would I install a new one?04:14
Psil0cybinI have never done this before I am kinda new to linux04:14
randomaussiethank you lotus04:15
Psil0cybinAre you sure I dont use pae, I have always been using it...and it always worked fine this is the foirst I have heard about this04:15
Psil0cybinor had to deal with this issue04:15
Psil0cybinand I always Always update04:15
lotuspsychje!info nfs-kernel-server | randomaussie04:17
ubotturandomaussie: nfs-kernel-server (source: nfs-utils): support for NFS kernel server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.6-3ubuntu2 (raring), package size 106 kB, installed size 500 kB04:17
lotuspsychjerandomaussie: maybe this package can solve network shares aswell04:17
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Psil0cybinsigh04:19
CaseyCan someone help me with automounting a raid1 on boot?04:21
Psil0cybinCan anyone please help me04:21
Psil0cybinI need to get this fixed i cannot deal with restarting over and over and hoping it works04:21
bazhang!helpme | Psil0cybin04:21
ubottuPsil0cybin: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude04:21
lotuspsychje!raid | Casey04:23
ubottuCasey: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto04:23
Caseylotus: checking these links out now. Thanks.04:25
Psil0cybini9o]04:32
Psil0cybinCan anyone help me, I just updated my computer and after I did, it started to become unstable (every restart its agamble and sometimes it works other times the GUI doesnt load and i get into the console) What can i do to diagnose the problem i already posted on the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162067&p=12729257#post1272925704:33
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Caseylotuspsychje: does it mater if the raid1 is from a controller card and not the MB sata ports?04:35
holsteinPsil0cybin: i would try booting the older kernel, assuming you took a kernel upgrade04:37
holsteinPsil0cybin: testing the memory is always a good idea when "odd" things are just happening seemingly randomly04:38
lotuspsychjeCasey: check the ##hardware channel for your correct hardware configuration mate04:38
Caseylotuspsychje: Sorry I'm new to Ubuntu and just trying to learn about this stuff. I "tried" to follow the example that the fstab. file gave me but I was hoping someone could check my work.04:40
lotuspsychjeCasey: you can always re-ask your question in this chat, once in a while with your pastebin link04:40
Caseylotuspsychje: True, but I think I'll call it a night. Try again tomorrow. Thanks for the help and tips.04:41
lotuspsychjeCasey: np mate04:41
Psil0cybinholstein,04:46
Psil0cybinthe older kernal works perfectly fine when i hit previous version of linux04:46
Psil0cybinbut how do i make that my default04:46
Psil0cybinbecause if i do not specifically choose it04:46
Psil0cybinit doesnt boot04:47
Psil0cybinSo would I always stick with the older kernal or still would I update? hoping that other kernal versions work better.04:47
Psil0cybinbecause all previous worked perfectly fine which is the most confusing part holstein04:48
lotuspsychjePsil0cybin: you come from an update or did you clean install?04:48
Psil0cybinUpdated, through the desktop like it said I needed to update files so i updated them and after that I started exerpeicing problems04:50
Psil0cybinlotuspsychje,04:50
Psil0cybinMy computer workedp erfectly fine untill I updated files that popped up in the software manager04:50
Psil0cybinUpdate Manager*04:50
lotuspsychjePsil0cybin: i had good experiences with clean install on my acer aspire one netbook04:50
Psil0cybinSo its something to dow ith the update, and now the problem is04:50
Psil0cybinwhen I restart04:50
Psil0cybin3.2.0-49-generic-pae,04:50
Psil0cybindoesnt work unless i Keep restarting then eventually it works04:51
Psil0cybin3.2.0-48-generic-pae,04:51
Psil0cybinworks fine04:51
lotuspsychjePsil0cybin: try what Holstein sugested mate04:51
Psil0cybinbut i cannot set that as my default because now i have the newer update04:51
Psil0cybinI did and it works perfect04:51
Psil0cybinso how can I delete the update?04:51
randomaussieto you awesome people who suport us ubuntu noobs.... did you know i can stream a movie over my wifi and 1080p and have it replay perfectly... yet windows cannot..... fuck i love linux04:51
Psil0cybinand go back to the previous version and not deal with making sure I select the 48 version04:51
randomaussieumm sorry fo rmy language04:51
AfflictoMeeken: you there?04:52
lotuspsychjePsil0cybin: well you can boot into previous kernel, or trying to solve your specific issues on the updated kernel04:53
Psil0cybinWell i would love to solve the issue on the updated Kernal but i cannot figure it out and im pretty new to linux so i dont knowwhat to do unlesssomeone helps me04:54
lotuspsychjePsil0cybin: they way i would do it is clean install ubuntu, and see issues from there04:56
Psil0cybinReally04:56
Psil0cybinthats the only way?04:56
lotuspsychjePsil0cybin: then check all the /var/log/04:56
Psil0cybinI know a clean install would fix the issues04:56
Psil0cybinbuttt04:56
Psil0cybinthe second i clean install ill have to update again04:56
Psil0cybin....and my problem will occur after again04:56
lotuspsychjePsil0cybin: no, this is not the only way, its how i would do it04:56
AlexBTChi guys! What's up?04:57
holsteinPsil0cybin: in those cases, i just boot the older kernels, and wait for updates, and test the new ones04:58
Psil0cybinokay04:59
Psil0cybinholstein,04:59
Psil0cybinthanks guys :) just stinks, could i set an older kernal as a default04:59
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holsteinPsil0cybin: you can literally do what you want, friend05:01
lotuspsychjePsil0cybin: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog.1 and fool around with your system a bit :p05:01
holsteinPsil0cybin: you can delete, remove, uninstall the kernel that is newer that is not working with your hardware, and pin the kernel down.. you can change the order05:01
Psil0cybinholstein, how do I chang ethe order or delete the newest kernal?05:03
Psil0cybinSince its useless to be not working05:03
Psil0cybinalso if I use the older kernal would I still be recieving updates?05:04
holsteinPsil0cybin: if you update, you are updating05:04
holsteinPsil0cybin: what would you like to do?05:04
Psil0cybinWant to swap the default linux version from 3.2.0-49-generic-pae, to 3.2.0-48-generic-pae,05:05
Psil0cybinso that if I am not quick enough to select it on boot it will work instead of booting into a bricked kernal05:05
Psil0cybinthat just shows me a black screen or gives me a terminal console without a GUI05:05
holsteinPsil0cybin: why not just remove the last one? and pin it.. or, just check when you update each time05:05
holstein!grub | Psil0cybin05:06
ubottuPsil0cybin: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub205:06
Psil0cybinOkay how would I delete the 3.2.0-49-generic-pae, kernal and use 3.2.0-48-generic-pae,05:06
holstein^^ you can read there about how to change the order, or change the timer..05:06
holsteinPsil0cybin: you can open the package manager of your choice and search for the package you would like to remove05:06
Psil0cybinWhat package manager do you recommend? holstein05:07
randomaussiehi again guys.. atuck at a window  that says at the top "authentication required" to install or remove software you need to authenticate... i put my password in and its been sitting htere thinking about it for 20 minutesnow05:07
holsteinPsil0cybin: i just recommened the one of your choice.. the one you are most comfortable using05:07
holsteinPsil0cybin: i like synaptic for a GUI one05:07
Psil0cybinOkay so would I boot back into the older kernal and remove the newer kernal because Now I am using the newer kernal but its a FLUKE that i got the GUI05:08
Psil0cybinlike if i restarted right now it would not work05:08
Psil0cybinand i owuld be back to where i started looking at a black screen or just a console05:08
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lotuspsychjerandomaussie: in software centre?05:13
qiyong_should I use do-release-upgrade, or change the source.list and apt-get manually?05:14
lotuspsychje!upgrade | qiyong_05:15
ubottuqiyong_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade05:15
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holsteinPsil0cybin: i would try whatever you would like, in order to get the machine in a state you want it in.. i have no issue selecting the older kernel at boot, since i seldom reboot.. sometimes i let that slide for a while to see if a "fix" comes for my hardware05:16
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randomaussielotus: i was installing open ofice05:19
hakunincan somebody explain this detail to me?05:19
qiyong_lotuspsychje: it doesn't tell about apt-get upgrade05:19
hakuninwhen I run dist-upgrade - i get latest revision of kernel modules in /lib/modules05:19
holsteinrandomaussie: install libreoffice05:19
qiyong_do i have to use do-releaee-upgrade?05:19
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hakuninIs there a way to get older /lib/modules?05:20
hakunini get 12.04-49, but i need 12.04-4505:20
randomaussieholstein: i removed libre office because i use open office on my windows box05:20
armandohello :P05:20
qiyong_my box is 64bit, why it tries to fetch 386 pkgs?05:20
holsteinhakunin: i usually look in synaptic for that.. there is a "force older version" option05:21
hakuninholstein: it's a server05:21
hakuninholstein: i don't have gui05:21
holsteinrandomaussie: you should use libre both places.. but there is no reason to regress05:21
holsteinhakunin: synaptic just has an easy gui for it.. there are other ways05:21
wilee-nileeqiyong_, Sometimes there are no 64 bit packages check on that.05:21
armandomy harddirive just died after instaliing xubuntu and formating my har drive with gparted, :P05:22
holsteinhakunin: of course, that is assuming the older version is there.. in the repos05:22
hakuninholstein: hm, it's just the first time i encountered dist-upgrade command, i'm not sure which package actually installs /lib/modules, and how to get the right one05:22
wilee-nileearmando, what is the evidence that it died?05:22
hakuninholstein: will try do more research05:22
holsteinhakunin: cheers05:22
armandoi took it out and hook it up with a external hard drive case i have :P not even gparted loads it:P05:23
holsteinarmando: could still be a bad cable i suppose..05:24
wilee-nileearmando, Have you checked back in the computer? I have bought external enclosures that just did not work correctly all the time.05:24
armandoits ok i got another hardrive todat 1 tlb :D05:24
poiaufPqwerhi all... i'm trying to do something that it shouldn't work, but I need... I have a CRT working as a second monitor, and it works with 1024x768 or 800x600 (4:3)... I want it working in 1280x800 (or any other 16:10 resolution) even if I get a blank part at top and bottom... any ideas?05:25
wilee-nileearmando, So this was a statement rather then any real evidence confirming?05:25
Psil0cybinOkay holstein so i guess i will keep it as is for a while to see if anything comes out sometime this week05:25
armandoim just wondering now if xubuntu or g pated or a virus killed my HD :P05:26
holsteinPsil0cybin: an xorg.conf.. that will not be easy, nor rewarding.. in any way05:26
holsteinPsil0cybin: change the timer on grub.. i have a few set to not automatically do anything05:26
wilee-nileearmando, Plug it back in and you will know if it dies or not, and no properly used xubuntu aor gparted does not kill HD's05:26
Psil0cybinYea i know but also another question holstein does using an older kernal leave me vulnurable in any way shape or form05:27
holsteinpoiaufPqwer: : an xorg.conf.. that will not be easy, nor rewarding.. in any way05:27
Psil0cybinholstein,05:27
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holsteinPsil0cybin: maybe, but i argue using a computer makes one vulnerable.. the other option is for you to make your own kernel, and i dont think either one of us expect that to happen, so i think you'll just have to "risk it" ;)05:28
armandowell if its not dead its pretty Bricked lol i cant do anything to it :P05:28
wilee-nileearmando, Can I introduce you to critical thinking and empirical evidence. ;)05:28
Psil0cybinOkay holstein05:29
holsteinPsil0cybin: would i be concerned running a kernel that is a version or 2 back? no..05:29
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Psil0cybinokay thank you thats what i wanted to hear05:29
Psil0cybinanother question Hol05:29
Psil0cybinholstein,05:29
Psil0cybinI think the problem is caused with cedarview-drm and it looks like05:29
Psil0cybinother people havet he same problem as me05:29
Psil0cybinhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/103835005:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1038350 in cedarview-drm-drivers (Ubuntu) "Cedarview-drm install leaves the system with in a broken state" [Undecided,Confirmed]05:29
Psil0cybincould i try and remove cedarview-drm05:29
Psil0cybinlike it states in the bug description05:30
Psil0cybinor would that cause corruption05:30
armandolol ok, im giving up on him :P even if i fix it and lives i would feel bad because i already bought another one XD05:31
holsteinPsil0cybin: i have no way of testing that first hand.. i would say it wouldnt hurt to try reinstalling that package05:31
holsteinarmando: why? 2 is better than one ;)05:31
Psil0cybinholstein, sorry for hounding you, what is the command to reinstall a package?05:31
Psil0cybinIm just new to linux so this is all a learning experience05:32
Psil0cybinso far I havent had problems like this05:32
holsteinPsil0cybin: i would use synaptic.. you can right click on it.. its an easy GUI with lots of options05:32
armandolol i dont know what to say XD, i just wanted to make sure with you guys, i dont want it to happen again :P05:33
holsteinarmando: ?05:33
holsteinarmando: nothing you have said makes me think ubuntu "broke" the drive, or that you broke it installing ubuntu on it05:34
Psil0cybinholstein, okay reintalling cedarview-drm05:34
poiaufPqwerwell... how can I have two monitors (laptop monitor + external CRT) using different resolutions? Laptop is 16:10 and CRT 4:3.. ideas?05:36
armandoits not ubuntu, the thing is that my computer came with win 7, and  even in bios says win 7 factory defaut os,, i wonder if my computer doesnt like ubuntu :P05:37
holsteinpoiaufPqwer: get a different monitor.. hack at the xorg.conf file.. dont expect the same resolution both places.. dont mirror, do extend05:37
Tekk_Has anyone gotten fgl working on 12.04 with a radeon 4850? Installing the fgl package just falls me back onto vesa. I know that the proprietary driver at the very least used to support the ard.05:37
poiaufPqwerholstein, I want to extend, but that's the problem... it works well mirroring with same resolution05:39
poiaufPqwerbut I'd like to have extended monitor with different resolutions.. is it possible?05:39
holsteinpoiaufPqwer: anything is technically possible.. im just suggesting that its not worth the hassle, when i literally trip over 16:9 lcd's on the way to the toilet05:40
holsteinpoiaufPqwer: i would try the arandr gui05:41
poiaufPqwerholstein, I tried xrandr... it seemed to be what I was looking for, but there are no compatible resolutions for both monitors05:41
poiaufPqweractually... I even can have two different resolutions, but Ubuntu hangs, becoming extremely slow05:42
holsteinpoiaufPqwer: have you tried "arandr" ?05:42
poiaufPqwerbut the fact that it works (even slowly) gave some hope05:42
poiaufPqweri'm installing arandr right now05:42
poiaufPqwerholstein, almost there... it gets bugged, but at least a different result05:45
poiaufPqwerI'll make some tries here... thanks for your help05:45
armandothanks for the info guys,  =3  ill see u another time :P05:46
luckybunnyhey guys... does ubuntu still use pulseaudio?05:46
Tekk_luckybunny:yes05:46
angelis ubuntu spyware like stallman says'05:47
angel?05:47
luckybunnyI'm curious because I'm suffering from a bug that appears to be linked to pulseaudio, but none of the PA utilities to iron it out are even installed05:47
Tekk_angel: until you remove the amazon lense05:47
Tekk_lens*05:47
poiaufPqwerhehe, I got a weird result... it works if I use one monitor "above" the other, in the ubuntu monitor configuration... but still doesn't work if they are side by side05:47
Tekk_shopping lens*05:48
poiaufPqwerI dont get actually why, but it works for me05:48
luckybunnyI've had to get my router replaced twice due to PA sending UDP traffic on the network, essentially DoSing me05:49
holsteinluckybunny: PA?05:50
luckybunnyonly just found out today it was pulseaudio, and that I could fix it, but weirdly I've had to install the pulse managers and controls myself, which is what got me wondering if ubuntu uses pulse still05:50
luckybunnyPA = pulse audio05:50
holsteinluckybunny: pulse audio broke a router?05:50
luckybunnyyup05:50
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luckybunnynot broke... just repeatedly overheated05:50
holsteinluckybunny: i highly doubt that.. i would carefully revisit your troubleshooting steps05:50
holsteinluckybunny: lubuntu doesnt ship with pulse by default05:51
holstein!lubuntu05:51
ubottulubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.05:51
luckybunnymy troubleshooting steps involved looking at my computer's network traffic and even seeing the packet flood for myself05:52
holsteinluckybunny: i have no packet flood05:52
holsteinluckybunny: i think you are either mistaken, or something is compromised, or drastically misconfigured.. but, you are welcome to not use pulse audio05:52
luckybunnyI believe I may have already fixed it by disabling RTP multicast05:53
luckybunnyI followed this: http://taint.org/2008/03/21/142716a.html05:54
holsteinluckybunny: its not all that new05:55
pingwhen trying to burn 13.04 to dvd using CD/DVD Creator, halfway through pop up message "unable to mount cdrom"05:55
luckybunnyas it says in that blog post and elsewhere, it's not so much a bug but a feature05:56
holsteinluckybunny: " this seems to have magically turned itself on " ..i suppose that magic just hasnt happened to me yet.. and has only happend to you and that guy, AFAIK05:56
pingbut it finishes and says "data cd successfully burned?05:56
qiyongwhy squid is no longer supported?05:57
holsteinluckybunny: that link is *very* old05:57
wilee-nileeping, You burn as an image not data.05:57
pingthe choices were burn as a "file" or burn the contents of the file05:58
luckybunnythis is much newer (but still old) https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4477705:58
ubottuFreedesktop bug 44777 in modules "module-rtp-send floods the network with UDP packets, crippling it severely" [Major,New]05:58
pingI burned it as a file05:58
wilee-nileeping, In what burner?05:58
pingcd/dvd Creator05:58
holsteinping: you'll want to copy.. making a copy with the iso as the source and the disc as the destination05:59
pingis there a better cd burner?05:59
LongCatTHfree coupon for codeschool, first come first serve :) http://go.codeschool.com/yp6ONw05:59
Psil0cybinholstein, Yo I think what you said works!06:00
Psil0cybinI reinstalled cedarview-drm06:00
Psil0cybinand i restarted 5 times and got the GUI all times!!06:00
Psil0cybin=D06:00
pingI'll try Brasero06:00
Psil0cybinholstein, we will play it by ear! But i think it works perfect06:01
holsteinPsil0cybin: enjoy06:01
akaWolfhello! I try to work with svnserve + sasl! but I've got error... can everyone help me?06:01
luckybunnyas I said, I only got to all these posts by googling the IP from the output from my network traffic, so hopefully I've now solved it. I have no idea how it ended up enabled for me either, but I'm not so much bothered by that. I hope I've disabled it now and should apologize to my ISP for having them replace the router twice, citing heat issues, when I was technically DoSing myself06:02
afflictoSo, I have now backed up all my files. ready to install ubuntu. Shall I simply boot up from the USB and remove everything, then install ubuntu? I want to install win 7 on it as well.06:04
afflictoSo should i install ubuntu first, then win 7.06:04
lotuspsychje!dualboot | afflicto06:05
ubottuafflicto: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot06:05
lotuspsychjeafflicto: but we recommend single install ubuntu :p06:05
akaWolfhello! I try to work with svnserve + sasl! but I've got error... can everyone help me?06:05
afflictolotuspsychje: I'd love to. I need FL Studio and photoshop tho :P (I will try gimp and Ardour tho)06:06
lotuspsychjeafflicto: you can use playonlinux and wine for those06:06
lotuspsychjeafflicto: check the playonlinux website for all the games&apps06:06
lotuspsychje!appdb | afflicto06:07
afflictolotuspsychje: hm it's a bit cumbersome and not very stable as far as I know?06:07
ubottuafflicto: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help06:07
afflictoI'll take a look tho06:07
akaWolfhey!06:08
afflictoBut wait. what's the best way to dualboot win and ubuntu? win 7 first or ubuntu first?06:08
wilee-nileeafflicto, You want windows 7 in the first partitions, it installs a boot partition if you do not make a ntfs ahead of time and point the install to it.06:08
afflictowilee-nilee: hey wilee! :P uhm "first partitions"?06:09
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lotuspsychjeafflicto: you can also run win7 inside virtualbox from ubuntu06:09
wilee-nileeafflicto, I don't use the windows boot partition it is needed though for their encrypt. Windows a boot and C both ntfs unless you want just one.06:09
afflictolotus: I know but I don't think it works well with ASIo4ALL I dno maybe it does.06:10
afflictou know what I'm just erasing everything and installing ubuntu. I'll see what I do from there.06:10
DoverMoafflicto, woo D:06:10
lotuspsychjeafflicto: smart choice :p06:10
DoverMoafflicto, or just make 2 partitions06:10
akaWolfsorry for asking, but can everyone help me?06:10
lotuspsychje!patience | akaWolf06:11
ubottuakaWolf: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/06:11
lotuspsychjeakaWolf: perhaps you could explain your issue specific?06:11
DoverMoafflicto, myself being a super pro photographer, I would say that gimp is very sufficient in terms of editing. the only thing you are missing from photoshop are it's tools/brushes06:11
akaWolflotuspsychje: I could that06:11
lotuspsychje!details | akaWolf06:12
ubottuakaWolf: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."06:12
akaWolfubottu: ok06:12
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)06:12
afflictoWell FYI my PC has 3 physial HDD's. 1 has windows, the other two are just storage.06:12
afflictohm. on my boot menu in BIOS I have two instances of the same USB stick. one called "UEFI..." and another one.06:14
afflictoDo I want the UEFI one?06:14
lotuspsychje!uefi | afflicto06:15
ubottuafflicto: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI06:15
akaWolfI'm using svnserve v. 1.7.5 and sasl 2.2, I start the svnserve, then I try to connect to localhost repository, and then I've got "svn: E170001: Authentification error"06:15
lotuspsychjeakaWolf: did you sudo?06:16
akaWolflotuspsychje: for this example.. start svnserve as sudo06:16
afflictook UEFI usb stick didn't work. I'll choose the one without UEFI now.06:16
lotuspsychjeakaWolf: yes try sudo svnserve06:16
akaWolflotuspsychje: it's not permission specific problem, it's a problem with sasl <> svnserve06:17
akaWolflotuspsychje: I do this as sudo06:17
lotuspsychjeok06:17
DarkFoxHello, could anyone here head me into the direction for how to get any linux iso to boot to install onto a windows-file to boot from?06:19
DarkFoxErm06:20
DarkFoxwubi, explanation for how it works ^ Just chainload to a file? Process explained anywhere?06:20
lotuspsychjeakaWolf: try removing -R read only maybe06:20
bazhang!wubi | DarkFox06:20
ubottuDarkFox: Wubi allows you to install or uninstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from within Windows ( version 7 or earlier ) in a simple and safe way. Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for more information. File wubi bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug06:20
wilee-nileeDarkFox, wubi does not install from the iso.06:21
DarkFoxHmm, just thought about if my school laptop uses uefi but I don't think win7 does that..06:21
DarkFoxwilee-nilee: I am aware but it would be nice to get a file or something setup so I can install arch from my USB while having that booted and writing to that file on the windows partitions06:21
akaWolflotuspsychje: I start svnserve without -R06:22
DarkFoxWindows chainloads it somehow. I want this part so I can boot any distro of my choice06:22
akaWolflotuspsychje: libsasl2-2_2.1.2506:23
DarkFoxIn my case arch with encryption if decent with the NTFS filesystem for the file / virtual disk itself.06:23
lotuspsychjeakaWolf: not sure then mate, maybe try the #ubuntu-server guys someone might have svn knowlegde06:23
akaWolflotuspsychje: ok, thanks06:24
lotuspsychjeakaWolf: or re-ask in chat once in a while, at other times someone might find a fix06:24
xtuhey, how to transfer a file in gbk encoding to unicode in ubuntu06:24
xtuis there a easy way06:24
lotuspsychjextu: maybe this can help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/98036/how-to-set-encoding-in-gedit-3-206:26
hendra_pegasushi how are you brother anyone here cooming from argentina or germany06:28
xtulotuspsychje, thanks!06:28
hendra_pegasusje parle francais06:28
lotuspsychje!fr | hendra_pegasus06:28
ubottuhendra_pegasus: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.06:28
hendra_pegasusya lot whats going on06:28
DarkFoxHow is wubi getting the image?06:28
DarkFoxto boot06:28
hendra_pegasusje parle anglais06:29
llutz!ot | hendra_pegasus06:29
ubottuhendra_pegasus: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:29
hendra_pegasusya good ubuntu linux ya ubottu...what are you using06:30
lotuspsychjeDarkFox: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows06:30
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DarkFoxlotuspsychje: I don't want to boot from USB06:31
hendra_pegasushi how are you06:39
bazhanghendra_pegasus, this is NOT the chat channel06:40
xtuhow are who?06:40
bazhanghendra_pegasus, this is for ubuntu support only06:40
hendra_pegasusso what bazhang nin hao ma06:40
bazhanghendra_pegasus, for chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here06:40
hendra_pegasusxtu thats my name nin neng du ma06:40
hendra_pegasuslil how are you good06:41
xtuhaha, just speak english! i can understand dyou06:41
bazhanglets move on please06:41
xtuif you have any problems related to ubuntu, just ask here, they can solve it06:41
delinquentmelinux to linux devices connections06:53
Jordan744Hey, I have a question. I downloaded Ubuntu partioned. I'm thinking that since I partioned up the disk that it is making my windows run slower. (Ubuntu wont even run) How do I get rid of Ubuntu completely06:57
ceilformatting the partition would erase ubuntu. i don't know how Windows handles partitions, though06:58
ceilmight want to try ##windows and ask about reclaiming that space06:59
wilee-nileeJordan744, could you explain downloaded partitioned?06:59
green_on a new install of 12.04 when i update and restart, my screen rolls on 1920x1080 is there any way to fix this?07:01
dheaiaiHi Alll07:02
Jordan744Well first, could that be what's causing my laptop to run slowly?07:02
dheaiaiI want to buy microcontroller07:03
dheaiaiwith 2 usb port07:03
wilee-nileeJordan744, Honestly your statement makes no sense, no way to know.07:03
Jordan744@wilee-nilee I downloaded the version 12.10 off of the ubuntu website and followed their instructions to partion07:03
dheaiaiarv807:03
wilee-nileeJordan744, A partitioned install should have nothing to do with how windows performs.07:04
bazhang!ot | dheaiai07:04
ubottudheaiai: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:04
bazhangdheaiai, ##hardware not here07:04
Jordan744I was just speculating, thanks for answering wilee-nilee!07:04
wilee-nileeJordan744, Did you resize windows, and if so how?07:04
dheaiaiohhh. can u please tell me which community07:05
green_on a new install of 12.04 when i update and restart, my screen rolls on 1920x1080 is there any way to fix this?07:05
Jordan744I don't think I did, I was just thinking. Wasn't 100% sure07:05
Jordan744Brb, seeing what happens if I try to run Ubuntu (I forget, it's been ages)07:06
wilee-nileeJordan744, Did you choose the install alongside?07:06
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shin_conkyrc07:13
Jordan733Okay, when I try to run Ubuntu it tells me that \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr is missing or contains errors. What do I do?07:14
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nu11s37Anyone around ?07:14
Jordan733I am! Looking for help :P07:15
nu11s37yes07:15
nu11s37I cannot play m3u files using mplayer07:15
nu11s37using ubuntu 12.0407:15
shin_check your codec07:15
nu11s37mplayer -playlist name.m3u does not work07:16
nu11s37I installed restricted extras07:16
wilee-nileeJordan733, I wondered if it was a wubi, that first is not a partitioned install. little wubi supprt here there is one user on the ubuntu forums who can help, and sometimes shows up here.07:16
nu11s37Detected file format: Nullsoft Streaming Video (libavformat)07:16
nu11s37LAVF_header: avformat_open_input() failed07:16
nu11s37Opening as detected format "libavformat" failed.07:16
nu11s37Detected file format: Nullsoft Streaming Video (libavformat)07:16
nu11s37LAVF_header: avformat_open_input() failed07:16
nu11s37Opening as detected format "libavformat" failed.07:16
FloodBot1nu11s37: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:16
nu11s37Failed to recognize file format.07:16
green_on a new install of 12.04 when i update and restart, my screen rolls on 1920x1080 is there any way to fix this?07:16
Jordan733What is wrong with wubi?07:16
nu11s37I can play it in winamp07:17
nu11s37works fine07:17
nu11s37I can play it in vlc07:17
wilee-nileeJordan733, Its not supported anymore basically, the designer themselves said it was a try put to resolve in a partitioned install, it can just be problematic at times.07:18
Jordan733Is it bad that I have it?07:18
wilee-nileeout*07:18
wilee-nileeJordan733, Not really, but just limited help is all.07:19
wilee-nilee!wubi | Jordan733 here is some info.07:20
ubottuJordan733 here is some info.: Wubi allows you to install or uninstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from within Windows ( version 7 or earlier ) in a simple and safe way. Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for more information. File wubi bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug07:20
Jordan733I found the uninstall .exe I'm just going to run it07:21
wilee-nileeJordan733, It is in the control panel in remove programs as well.07:21
afflictoSo I just finnished installing ubuntu. restarted. and now it says windows 7 failed to start. wait.. what? I just erased win 7! help xD07:22
Jordan733Oh, I was just going to look at the file it said was missing and I instead found the uninstall lol. How should I install ubuntu without getting rid of windows07:22
shin_<afflicto>: just repair your grub07:23
afflictoshin_: how?07:23
wilee-nileeJordan733, you would install it in a unallocated space on the hard drive using the installer, however you want to be aware of the 4 primary limitation on a single HD or 3 prmaries and a extended as a container for logical partitions.07:24
afflictoI fixed it. just had to boot the other hard drive.07:25
shin_edit your /etc/grub.conf07:25
wilee-nileeafflicto, Get the bootrepair app, just run the bootinfo summary and post the url to it, the tool can fix grub in general, it is nice to see what is there first though with the script.07:25
wilee-nileeafflicto, cool.07:25
Noskcajcan someone help me with setting up sbuild? It seems something is wrong with step 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild07:25
afflictoThanks everyone for the help! :P07:26
afflictoOk I'm back. on linux now on my desktop. One issue tho. I can't change the sensitivity of my mouse in the settings? :S07:30
researcher123how can I now my Ubuntu version and release from command line?07:34
Jordan_U!release | researcher12307:35
ubotturesearcher123: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases07:35
researcher123Jordan thanks07:35
Jordan_Uresearcher123: Sorry, wrong factoid. "lsb_release -a" should tell you.07:35
researcher123Jordan_U: thanks07:35
Jordan_Uresearcher123: You're welcome.07:35
meerkathello. Where can I get the source code of lxpanel? lxde.org is down.07:48
iceroot_meerkat: apt-get source lxpanel07:48
iceroot_meerkat: then you will get the debian source-package containing the source-code, the ubuntu patches and the debhelper files itself07:49
afflictoI'm installing "Additional Drivers" and I get two items saying "Video driver for the AMD graphics..." should I install both of them?07:52
meerkaticeroot_, do you happen to know where these source packages are put on the system?07:55
Jordan_Umeerkat: apt-get source downloads to the current directory.07:55
meerkatJordan_U, oh. there it is! :)07:55
meerkatthanks07:55
farbodpesarkhobeee,salam07:58
farbodacce,hi07:58
farbodhelp me07:59
farbodhelp07:59
Jordan_Umeerkat: You're welcome.07:59
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Jordan_Ufarbod: What do you need help with?07:59
farbodi want pesarkhbeee08:00
Guest23207in 12.04, Skype and F.lux are not in the software center? how do I install them?08:00
farboddo you noe him?08:00
afflictoGuest23207: skype.com08:00
xtuhi, how can i register a nick name on irc and use it afterwards08:00
toufiqsalut08:00
matematikaadit!register | xtu08:00
ubottuxtu: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode08:00
toufiqya quelqu'un08:00
farbodhow can i search for pesarkhbeee?08:01
Jordan_Ufarbod: This channel is for Ubuntu support discussion, please take offtopic discussion elsewhere.08:01
afflictoNobody knows if I should install both drivers from "Additional Drivers"?08:01
farbodjordan_u: how can i do this?08:01
Jordan_Ufarbod: Do what?08:02
farbodjordan_u: search for pesarkhobee?08:02
farbodjordan_u: ? :d08:03
Jordan_Ufarbod: By running "/whois pesarkhobee" you can see that there is currently nobody with that nick connected to freenode at the moment, if that's what you mean. For more questions about how to use Freenode/IRC please join #freenode.08:04
farbodhow can i use /whoise?08:04
farbodjordan_u: how can i use /whoise?08:05
Jordan_Ufarbod: Please join #freenode.08:05
farbodok08:05
farbodi join08:05
farbodjordan_u: now?08:05
farbod?08:06
Jordan_Ufarbod: You haven't joined the channel #freenode. You're still in the channel #ubuntu.08:06
farbodok come08:06
xtuls08:06
farbodjordan_u: waht shulde i do in freenode?08:07
farbodjordan_u: waht shulde i do in freenode?08:08
Jordan_Ufarbod: Ask whatever questions you have about using Freenode (which is the IRC network you're currently connected to). You still haven't joined #freenode. To do so type "/join #freenode" without the quotes.08:08
farbodjordan_u: how can i joyned freedone?08:09
Jordan_Ufarbod: I just told you. Type "/join #freenode" without the quotes.08:09
farbodjordan_u: i joind08:10
farbodjordan_u: now wath shulde be i do?08:11
kr4zycoderhi farbod08:11
Jordan_Ufarbod: No, you didn't.08:11
hakuninHi, there is a bug in Ubuntu kernel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/99975508:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 999755 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel crash in rb_next doing ohai loops" [Medium,Fix released]08:12
murosaihey, during boot i saw some messages telling me that i should manually install some firmware for my wireless device, are these messages logged somewhere?08:12
hakuninHow do I know which kernel version to install to get the bugfix?08:12
kr4zycoderso many stupid people here08:12
Jordan_Ukr4zycoder: Please be civil.08:12
kr4zycoder;)08:12
hakuninI see there is a bot-comment on the bottom of the bug saying that it's released in precise-proposed08:13
farbodjordan_u: where am i can write #freedome?08:13
hakunin(I need this for 12.04)08:13
hakuninSo just getting any kernel version >3.2.0-29 would be sufficient?08:13
hakuninOr do I also have to get it from the correct source, like proposed?08:13
Jordan_Ufarbod: I'm sorry but this has gone on long enough, if you can't follow the directions I've given you then you'll just have to figure things out on your own. I'm going to mute you in this channel so that people can no longer see what you post.08:14
kr4zycoderim new here ...what is this all about?08:14
kr4zycoderJordan_U:08:15
DerpDeDooWhen someone has a moment, I have a question.  -  I have some executable binaries, and when I go to the directory they are in, I can double click the file, and it runs.  If I pin it to the unity launcher, the icon remains, but when I click it, it does not launch the program.08:15
auronandace!topic | kr4zycoder08:16
ubottukr4zycoder: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic08:16
hakuninI'm just not familiar with the concepts of "proposed", "security", etc. All I know is that the bug was fixed in precise-proposed 3.2.0-29.46, so if I install, say 3.2.0-44, I'm all good?08:16
csrgxtuDerpDeDoo, I think you should make a desktop shortcut and then pin it08:16
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tnli kun kaljaovet on suljettu ?.08:16
tnliHm, sorry about that.08:17
DerpDeDooI'll give that a shot csrgxtu08:17
kr4zycoderubottu:thanks08:17
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)08:17
csrgxtubot means robot?08:18
kr4zycoderubottu:what's a bot?08:18
ubottuI am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:18
meerkatyes08:18
csrgxtuubottu, are you a robot?08:18
ubottucsrgxtu: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:18
auronandace!bot08:18
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots08:18
csrgxtuok, got it!08:19
hakuninI need to figure out which version of kernel has a bugfix of bug #99755. Or I'd appreciate if you could point me to a better channel to ask this question.08:19
ubottubug 99755 in linux (Ubuntu) "Keyboard + Synaptic Touchpad randomly do not return from suspend on Dell 640m" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/9975508:19
kr4zycoderubottu: after typing /topic im getting a message -ur not a channel operator08:20
ubottukr4zycoder: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:20
hakuninsorry I meant bug #99975508:20
ubottubug 999755 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel crash in rb_next doing ohai loops" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99975508:20
kr4zycoder!topic08:20
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic08:20
csrgxtukr4zycoder, i don't understand, the ubottu response our question , i think he is a administrator in this channel.08:21
hakuninso looks like this is the right channel to ask my question08:21
DerpDeDoocsrgxtu, I can make a link to the executable, and if I run the link from within the folder, it launches the program.  I move the shortcut to the desktop, and bam, stops working.  :/08:22
kr4zycodercsrgxtu:i think he gives answers according to keywords in our conversation....he's some kind of an automatic assistant08:22
csrgxtukr4zycoder, yeah, i guess so too08:23
kr4zycodercsrgxtu:btw..hi,where are from?08:23
csrgxtuDerpDeDoo, there should be a example.desktop file in your home directory08:23
csrgxtukr4zycoder, CN08:24
csrgxtuwhat about you08:24
hakuninlet me try to rephrase08:25
DerpDeDoocsrgxtu, nope, no example.desktop in there.08:25
lenovomani have problem with grub208:25
csrgxtuDerpDeDoo, wait a minute, how can i send a file to you through irc?08:26
hakuninIf a bug was fixed in precise-proposed version 3.2.0-29.46, does it mean that installing kernel 3.2.0-44 will give me the fix?08:26
DerpDeDoocsrgxtu, I think its drag and drop over my name, but I'm not sure.  Depends on your IRC client08:27
tnlicsrgxtu: DCC is the thing to look at, but I have no idea if it's even implemented on the client you're using.08:27
DerpDeDoocsrgxtu, possibly a right click on my name in the userlist, and the DCC send file08:27
sehinesyHello everyone, I want to buy a new phone, and I have 2 choices: Either Galaxy S3 or Nexus 4; So, considering that I want to run Ubuntu touch on it and make it like a mini portable laptop, which one is better for me?08:28
csrgxtuxchat, i am using xchat08:28
tnliNowdays I'd go with dropbox or something similar.08:28
csrgxtuDerpDeDoo, can you use your command line08:28
tnliToo many broken DCC connections in the past. :D08:28
csrgxtuDerpDeDoo, enter the directory /usr/share/applications/08:28
csrgxtuthere is a lot of the desktop shortcut file08:28
tnliActually, I noticed an annoying thing just moments ago. When I start FTL via steam it apparently kills x as I drop out of the desktop to login prompt on 13.408:29
DerpDeDoocsrgxtu, I tried playing with one of those before.  All I did was mess up the icon for the app.08:29
csrgxtunormally, if i want to make a shortcut, i always put the app.example file into that directory08:29
tnliAnyone noticed similar thing?08:29
sehinesyIs this channel concerned about Ubuntu touch? Or there is a separate channel?08:30
csrgxtuDerpDeDoo, yeah, if you don't specify your own icon file, then it will messed up with others08:30
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DerpDeDoocsrgxtu, Yeah, that wasnt a big deal, but it still wouldnt launch08:31
csrgxtuthen it is the path you set that didn't right08:31
kr4zycodercsrgxtu:cool..i'm from india08:31
csrgxtuuse the absolute path08:31
DerpDeDoocsrgxtu, i put in the full path08:31
DerpDeDoocsrgxtu, /home/myusername/Downloads/programiwant/binaryname08:32
csrgxtukr4zycoder, i heard that in your country, the second language is english08:32
csrgxtuyeah, that should be right08:32
csrgxtulet me check my file08:33
kr4zycodercsrgxtu:ohh! yes it is...english learning is stressed everywhere08:34
lenovomangrub2 when i do sudo update-grub  it does not do anything08:36
csrgxtuDerpDeDoo, here is my configuration08:36
csrgxtu[Desktop Entry]08:37
csrgxtuName=sublime08:37
csrgxtuGenericName=Text Editor08:37
csrgxtuComment=Edit Source files08:37
csrgxtuExec=sublime_text08:37
FloodBot1csrgxtu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:37
csrgxtuDerpDeDoo, I put the binary file into the system bin directory, you can too08:38
csrgxtuhave a test08:38
DerpDeDoocsrgxtu, Alright, I'll give it a try.    I gotta get going.  Thanks for dealing with  :p08:39
DerpDeDoodealing with me*08:39
csrgxtuthat is all right!08:40
Aaruni|nixhey08:40
Aaruni|nixneed help08:40
lorphWhat settings do i need to set to make syn floods not take up 100% cpu? I already limited syn packets to 50/second in ip tables but it eventually causes kksoftirqd/0 to use 100% cpu and make the OS freeze08:40
Aaruni|nixjust got HP pavillion g6 2303tx, but WLAN drivers seem to be missing, using Ubuntu 12.04 live08:41
lenovomanDerpDeDoo i cannot get grub2 to update find a new distro i installed08:42
zoraelWhat is the output of 'fc-match serif' on a default installation?08:43
theadminzorael: DejaVuSerif.ttf: "DejaVu Serif" "Book"08:44
zoraeltheadmin: Cheers08:44
Aaruni|nixhelp ? its kinda urgent..08:45
gabhyhi! error: file not found grub rescue>  what can I do?08:45
gabhyhi! anybody can help me, please?08:47
gabhyhello!!08:50
gabhyhola! me pueden ayudar por favor08:51
lenovomanany1 see this ?08:52
gabhybye, chau ciao08:53
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snoBitchX:  I know it´s old but I can´t seem to get it to compile.  Does anyone have a link to a pre-combiled binary?08:54
kojimotoHello how can I start with ubuntu, I had it once but it was from boot09:01
kojimotoHow do I get the legit ubuntu09:01
csrgxtukojimoto, you mean, you want to learn using the ubuntu os09:02
csrgxtuit is easy as windows7, it has a user interface too, and more goodlooking09:03
kojimotocsrgxtu: no, how do I install it09:03
kojimotothe correct way09:03
kojimotoand I guess how can I learn to use it09:04
kojimotolike terminal commands09:04
kojimotoetc09:04
Ari-Yang....google09:04
kojimotoI used google09:04
kojimotoand I downloaded it the wrong way09:04
kojimotothan I found the right way09:04
kojimotoby flashdrive09:04
Ari-Yangkojimoto, http://www.ubuntu.com/download09:04
kojimotoand I could find it in the bios09:04
csrgxtuwell, got the iso iamge, and burn it to the cds or usb, and then start the computer from the cd or usb, and then it will prompt you to install09:04
kojimotocouldn't09:04
csrgxtunormally press f12, what kind of computer you are using09:05
ns7does the random library produce quality random numbers in a live cd?09:07
bekksWhich random library?09:08
moimemeHello, I'm trying to install lxle1204-32 on a laptop (HP compaq nc6000). vmlinuz and initrd.gz will load, then I get a few screenfull of information. Finally the process stops with the message " FATAL: Error inserting vesafb (/lib/modules/3.2.0-30-generic/kernel/drivers/video/vesafb.ko): No such device "09:18
moimemeNext is the (initramfs) prompt.09:19
moimemeCan anybody help? Please.09:19
bekksWhats "lxle1204-32"?09:19
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moimemelxle1204-32.iso. A lubuntu LTS version.09:20
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bekksmoimeme: lxle1204-32.iso isnt the default name of any ubuntu iso.09:20
bekksmoimeme: Where do you got it from?09:20
moimemeThe web site is http://lxle.net/09:21
Ari-Yangmoimeme, I think you'd want to get it here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu09:22
bekksmoimeme: You are not using Ubuntu then. Please get an official lubuntu iso.09:22
ndroftheline1hi can someone tel me if qgis is in the offiial repos?09:22
llutz!info qgis | ndroftheline109:23
ubottundroftheline1: qgis (source: qgis): Geographic Information System (GIS). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.7.4+1.7.5~20120320-1.1 (raring), package size 3823 kB, installed size 9843 kB09:23
xormorLinux laptoppi-HP-G62-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:46:08 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux09:23
xormorI am using Ubuntu GNU/Linux.09:23
moimemeThis is a lubuntu spin-off, which is a ubuntu spin-off, which is a debian spin-off. LOL09:23
llutzmoimeme: which is not supported here. end of story09:23
SP33Di think i am under attak or i am wrong i always get:  PAM service(sshd) ignoring max retries; 6 > 309:24
SP33Dthat does mean that some one brutforces the box right?09:24
bekksSP33D: "always" when doing what?09:24
moimemeAm I in the right channel, Do you know of a channel specific to lubuntu or lxle?09:24
SP33Ddoing nothing simply idling on console09:24
Ari-Yangmoimeme, there's #lubuntu09:24
bekksmoimeme: lxle isnt supported by lubuntu either.09:24
Ari-Yangmoimeme, you should just download the official iso is all.09:24
ss_hazexubuntu is more stable by LTS version, there are things that bug me out in lubuntu09:25
llutzSP33D: do you allow password-authentication on that box?09:25
moimemeAri-Yang; I'm running Ubuntu LTS on my desktop, I just need a lighter version for an old laptop.09:25
ns7bekks, urandom09:26
SP33Dllutz its a standart ubuntu server install with sshd installed09:26
Ari-Yangmoimeme, I think xubuntu is lighter than lubuntu...09:26
bekksmoimeme: Then just use lubuntu09:26
SP33Dthat accepts normal logins yes09:26
SP33Di connect my self via putty and login / pass09:26
llutzSP33D: well consider to change it to key-auth09:26
SP33Di now started to install fail2ban09:26
SP33Dhmmm ok need to google abit about that method you mean with cert files right?09:27
moimemeOk, thank you everyone.09:27
Ari-Yangactually moimeme, lubuntu is suppose to be lighter. but xubuntu /may/ be more stable?09:27
Ari-Yangthe lts version at least, idk09:27
llutzSP33D: keys, not certs, yes09:27
Ari-Yangit's up to you09:27
SP33DAri Lubuntu rocks in any way09:27
SP33Dits not buggy i run it on over 50 pc's local09:28
SP33Dall kind of ages from 5 years + back till newst hardware all works well09:28
green_on ubuntu 12.04 i have 1920x1080 working after the install but after the first update 1920x1080 resolution the screen rolls, is there a way to fix this?09:28
SP33Di can even play starcraft II on it or Diablo 309:28
Dave77is there any installer for LXDE or XFCE4? How do I install Xwindows and make it work?09:29
SP33Dgreen: you probally now got a newer X version that don't supports your graphic card09:29
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bekksSP33D: Thats wrong. Since X actually works.09:30
SP33Dbekks i mean his resulotion09:30
green_sp33d so no way to fix that except find a os that supports older hw?09:30
kiwitinkerI have a game server running on lubuntu, I can connect to it over the internet but I want to connect to it over my local network which i have been unable to do for some reason, i specify what i think is the right local ip address, it is the ip address for eth009:30
bekksgreen_: Which graphics hardware do you have, and which driver do you use? And "rolls" indicates that your virtual desktop is bigger than your actual screen.09:30
bekksSP33D: Thats what I am talking about.09:30
SP33Di hade same problems after upgrading form 12.04 my ATI Radeon was to old09:30
bekksgreen_: He is wrong. Please answer my questions.09:30
green_intel hd09:31
bekksgreen_: Which one?09:31
green_h/o09:31
bekksgreen_: What does "h/o" mean in terms of make and model of a graphics adapter?09:31
kiwitinkerthe machine i am trying to connect to it from is a windows xp machine09:31
bekkskiwitinker: Then use putty, e.g.09:32
green_where do i find out09:32
mumpitzelgreen_: lspci -nn09:32
kiwitinkerputty is an app?09:32
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mumpitzelkiwitinker: it's a ssh client for windows and linux, yes09:32
kiwitinkerso i would run that from my windows machine09:33
mumpitzelkiwitinker: to find out the current IP address for eth0 you use "/sbin/ifconfig|less"09:33
kiwitinkernothing need to be done on linux machine09:33
green_Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ09:33
mumpitzelkiwitinker: that's only for accessing the linux machine: you will get a CLI on linux if you run a ssh server09:33
mumpitzelDave77: you can install xorg  then you have xwindows. if you want an installer, you use lubunut for lxde or xubuntu for xfce09:34
fulcangrub2 fails to update/install to /dev/sda1  http://bpaste.net/show/Sk2UIR2QIotLR79jleA0/   Disk /dev/sda1 doesn't contain a valid partition table09:36
kiwitinkertrying to type sbin/ifconfig?less into console but don't know how to get that ?(straight vertical line)09:36
kiwitinkerI am a newbie by the way09:37
mumpitzelkiwitinker: depends on your keyboard layout09:38
mumpitzelkiwitinker: on english keyboards it should be above your enter key09:39
kiwitinkerthanks mumpitzel09:39
mumpitzelfulcan: what kind of partition table is it?09:39
fulcanext309:40
mumpitzelext3 is a filesystem not a partition table09:40
kiwitinkerthat came up with same local ip that i was trying so that is not the issue09:41
fulcanmumpitzel i'm not sure, where to I find it?09:41
mumpitzelusually it's either mbr or gpt09:41
green_Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ09:42
mumpitzelgreen_: that one's supported out of the box via i915 driver09:43
mumpitzelgreen_: if xorg isn't working for you, check your Xorg.0.log09:43
green_ok09:44
green_where do i find xorg 0 log?09:45
green_im not finding a Xorg.0 log file09:53
ndrofthelinehi all! if i have a package from the official repos and then add a ppa with a newer version of the same package, will that cause a rpoblem?09:53
bekksndroftheline: Depends on the quality of the PPA. PPA arent supported in here, generally.09:54
ns7does urandom produce high randomness in a live cd?09:54
ndrofthelineok i guess i'm actually asking about the typical behavior of apt - when issuing an update command, does it prefer to pull from the same repository as existing packages were pulled form or look exclusively at versioning?09:55
green_where do i find Xorg 0.log file?09:55
SP33Doh oh09:55
SP33Di think i blocked my self out oh my god how i hate such things09:55
SP33D:D09:55
xormorderk0pf: ich habe ein kopf.09:56
xormorderk0pf: guten morgen, moin, moin.09:56
SP33Doh gott deutsche09:56
SP33Dthis is a english speaking  channel09:56
xormorSP33D: I learned it in school.09:56
xormorSP33D: ok.09:56
mumpitzelgreen_: in /var/log/09:57
SP33Dwhy did you learn it you whanted to flirt with hitler?09:57
green_ok09:57
bekksSP33D: Please stop those comments.09:57
mumpitzelSP33D: do you have ubuntu related support question?09:57
dellhi friends09:57
delli have a problem :(09:57
xormordell: ok, tell us.09:58
bekks!details | dell09:58
ubottudell: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:58
delli want send a music from pidgin messenger for my friend but i can't09:59
cristian_cHi09:59
green_someone want me to pastebin the Xorg 0.log file?09:59
cristian_cI can no longer hear the sound come out from the speakers10:00
cristian_cWhat can I see?10:00
cristian_c*where have I to look at?10:00
cristian_cAny ideas?10:00
freefoxcan you hear other things?10:01
JoschiiHosianna!10:01
bekksdell: Please provide more details, as requested. "I cant" isnt a valuable error message.10:01
cristian_cfreefox, waht?10:01
cristian_c:)10:01
cristian_c*what10:01
cristian_cfreefox, ah, ok10:02
freefoxI mean, with your ears10:02
cristian_cfreefox, I can't hear either form headphone :(10:02
cristian_c*from10:02
cristian_cfreefox, 12.04 precise10:02
xormorI can't play CD's in xubuntu 13.04 raring ringtail.10:03
xormorso I use an external CD player and headphones.10:03
delli use ubuntu 12.04 LTS - i want send a music by pidgin in yahoo but it can;t ... when i send that music for my friend he can;t see ntg in his yahoo messenger and my music dont upload in pidgin...just 0%10:03
green_heres my Xorg 0 .log file http://pastebin.com/jpLFAUC210:05
ss_hazeremove pidgin of old version, and download newer one, or think about why you use yahoo at all..10:06
freefoxcristian_c: is the computer on?10:06
cristian_cfreefox, yeah10:07
dellwith new version will be ok ?10:09
freefoxcristian_c: are you sure?10:11
cristian_cfreefox, yeah10:12
dell<ss_haze> with new version will be ok ?10:12
green_anyone see a problem in my Xorg 0.log file?10:13
freefoxcristian_c: ok, you see the speaker icon at the bottom right corner?10:13
cristian_cfreefox, yeah10:13
freefoxcristian_c: now right click it, what does it say?10:14
cristian_cfreefox, volume control settings10:14
freefoxcristian_c: then click it10:15
cristian_can other speaker icon is appeared in the panel10:15
cristian_cfreefox, nothing happens10:15
freefoxcristian_c: double click?10:15
bekksgreen_: Whats the maximum resolution of your monitor?10:16
cristian_cfreefox, nothing happens10:16
freefoxcristian_c: what did you do so far?10:18
SP33Dhi can any one tell me what that exactly means10:20
SP33Di simply don't understand what the error is http://pastebin.de/3533310:20
bekksSP33D: What are you doing that produces your error?10:21
cristian_cfreefox, I found out accidentally, I do not know10:21
SP33Dok ya i understand he can't read anything a ascii code or like that but where it comes from i don't know whanted to do distupgrade10:21
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bekksSP33D: Whats the full output you get when running which command exactly?10:22
SP33Dposted it to pastebin10:23
SP33Dwhen i run do-release-upgrade10:23
bekksSP33D: Whats the entire output, not just the error?10:23
SP33Dhttp://pastebin.de/3533310:23
SP33Dthere is only one line befor in german that says fatal error then this output10:24
freefoxcristian_c: the volume is turned down, you have to find the slider and turn it back up10:24
SP33Dit is the full one10:24
SP33Di get exactly that10:24
freefoxcristian_c: on even10:24
cristian_cfreefox, volume is up10:24
freefoxcristian_c: that is the master volume, you need to find the correct slider in settings10:25
cristian_cfreefox, alsamixer?10:26
freefoxcristian_c: maybe10:27
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SP33Dok found out i got a confirmed bug and there is a update10:28
SP33Dhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/104636210:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1039484 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Quantal) "duplicate for #1046362 Accents in sources.list breaks do-release-upgrade" [High,Fix released]10:28
cristian_cfreefox, in alsamixer, master volume is up10:28
SP33Dbut how to update what to update10:28
bekksSP33D: Fix your sources.list then. BEfore running do-release-upgrade, uninstall every software from foreign PPA.10:28
freefoxcristian_c: what are in the menus?10:29
SP33DNO WAY there is a UPDATE that fixes that10:29
SP33Dhow to install that and then normaly upgrade?10:29
bekksSP33D: Fix your sources.list then. BEfore running do-release-upgrade, uninstall every software from foreign PPA, then update.10:29
SP33Dthats not true :( lol ok i do it that way but can't belive that stuff10:30
bekksSP33D: Running an upgrade with PPA enabled might break the update. Its up to you.10:30
SP33Dthere is probally a upgraded upgrade manager and then all works10:30
SP33Das befor10:30
cristian_cfreefox, in the Output tab, Digital output (S/PDIF) is selected in the Port menù10:31
cristian_c*menu10:31
SP33Di don't understand why conical don't simply offers a fixed upgrade manager as normal update to 12.0410:31
bekksSP33D: MAybe they do, but thats not your issue at the moment. You issue is that you might break your upgrade when having PPA.10:32
freefoxcristian_c: try changing it to others10:32
freefoxcristian_c: and tick every tickbox you see10:32
cristian_cfreefox, there is only that entry :(10:33
cristian_cI don't understand10:33
JanithHello10:33
JanithCan anyone help me with my Ubuntu installation? :/10:34
bekksJanith: We dint know without you asking a specific question :)10:34
JanithCan anyone help me with my Ubuntu installation?10:35
JanithIt says missing os10:35
bekks!details | Janith10:35
ubottuJanith: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."10:35
JanithI only have Ubuntu installed on my DD10:35
freefoxcristian_c: what else do you see10:35
cristian_cfreefox, some checkboxes10:35
JanithNothing. Only a black Screen with "Missing Operating System"10:36
bekksJanith: When trying to boot?10:36
Janithyes10:36
cristian_cfreefox, 'PCM', disabled, but checked. Then, 'AC3', 'EAC3', 'DTS', 'MPEG'10:36
cristian_cnot checked10:36
kabobacheck for active partition10:36
bekksJanith: Then there is no OS to be booted - did you check the boot order in your BIOS?10:36
freefoxcristian_c: check everything10:37
cristian_cfreefox, done10:37
JanithI installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. It asked me to reboot. And yes, I did check the boot order.10:37
mumpitzelJanith: reinstall the grub2 bootloader10:38
freefoxcristian_c: is the sound back?10:38
kabobatry boot from cd or flash and check partitions for active10:38
JanithHow do I do that?10:38
bekks!grub2 | Janith10:38
ubottuJanith: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub210:38
cristian_cfreefox, no10:38
cristian_c:(10:38
SP33Ddid switched back to standart source.list10:38
SP33Dand still the error the error is not the sourcelist file10:39
SP33D:(10:39
bekksSP33D: Did you uninstall every software that was installed from a PPA?10:39
JanithIt has no other OS except Ubuntu 12.04 LTS10:39
freefoxcristian_c: did you turn on all the sliders?10:39
SP33Dyes10:39
kabobai think the proble is in active partition10:39
cristian_cfreefox, in pavucontrol?10:39
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cristian_cor alsamixer?10:40
SP33Dit would help if the error would tell me where it has exactly the read error in what file10:40
JanithBy the way, I installed Ubuntu from a Flash Drive, through UNetBootin10:40
freefoxcristian_c: try pavucontrol if alsa won't work10:41
SP33Dok readed the python file and there is info that i shall report that as bug bla bla10:42
SP33Dfunny10:43
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cristian_cfreefox, left front and right front slider are up until to 52%10:43
mumpitzelJanith: reinstall grub as ubottu showed you10:43
cristian_c*sliders10:43
JanithBut, I don't have any other Operating Systems10:44
freefoxcristian_c: make sure everything is turned on to max10:44
freefoxcristian_c: and that every box is checked10:45
mumpitzelJanith: doesn't matter. something went wrong when installing grub. the fix is to install it again, as if you had installed another OS10:45
cristian_cfreefox, when I reopen pavucontrol, 'EAC3', 'DTS' and 'MPEG' checkboxes are unchecked10:46
cristian_cfreefox, in pavucontrol, there are only left and right sliders10:46
JanithShould  get Boot repair cd and boot from that?10:46
Janith* Should I10:46
mumpitzelJanith: you've been told what you should do. asking time and again won't change that10:47
mumpitzelJanith: all you need is your ubunut install CD using it the way you installed ubuntu10:48
JanithI have it on a USB Drive. and I did try re-installing it.10:48
mumpitzelJanith: then what was the output of grub-install ?10:49
Janiththere's no such thing in the ubuntu setup o_o10:49
mumpitzelI'm sure there is. no one said you should install ubuntu again but install grub again. please read more carefully. and follow that link you were given by ubottu.10:50
freefoxcristian_c: what are in the menus?10:50
cristian_cfreefox, in the Output tab, there is only the Port menu10:51
freefoxcristian_c: ok, what is in there?10:51
SP33Di cant change locale with export command10:51
SP33D-bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (de_DE.UTF-8)10:51
cristian_cfreefox, and there is the Show menu, at the bottom10:51
SP33Dwhat can coz that and how to fix?10:51
cristian_cfreefox, onli spdif entry10:51
cristian_c*only10:52
freefoxcristian_c: can you post a screenshot?10:52
cristian_cdigital output (S/PDIF)10:52
cristian_cfreefox, ok10:52
mumpitzelSP33D: what command did you give this error?10:53
cristian_cfreefox, http://imagebin.org/26439110:56
SP33Dmumpitz: thx a lot found the error10:56
SP33Dand that fixed dist upgrade too10:56
SP33Dsimply needed to do locale-gen de_de.utf-8 and then10:57
freefoxcristian_c: uhh, what language is this?10:57
SP33Dit was aviable and then i could set it and then do releaseupgrade can reade source list10:57
SP33D:D10:57
Janithmumpitzel, it asks me if /dev is mounted10:57
cristian_cfreefox, I've translated the screen in english10:57
mumpitzelJanith: it has to be for it to work, and be mounted inside the chroot10:58
cristian_cfreefox, I can translate all the screen elements10:58
JanithHow can I do that?10:58
freefoxcristian_c: click on the lock button10:58
freefoxcristian_c: try changing port10:58
cristian_cfreefox, done, but always one port10:58
cristian_c*to10:59
mumpitzelJanith: by following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub10:59
freefoxcristian_c: what is in configurazione?10:59
xormorcristian_c: is that italian?10:59
cristian_cfreefox, configuration or settings, I suppose11:00
gotwigis there a PPA for Ubuntu Unity 8?11:00
freefoxcristian_c: I mean what is in there?11:00
cristian_cor setup11:00
cristian_cfreefox, internal audio11:01
cristian_cfreefox, with Profile menu11:01
freefoxcristian_c: that's it, now tweak those settings11:01
Janithmumpitzel, I typed "sudo grub-install /dev/sda3" on the terminal and it outputs "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (Is /dev mounted?)" That guide doesn't tell me how to mount /dev :S11:01
cristian_cDigital stereo  (IEC958) output + stereo analog input11:02
freefoxcristian_c: change it11:02
Erik_dcCan someone please help me to get Netjack running?11:02
Erik_dchttp://pastebin.com/neyhbZdC11:02
cristian_cfreefox, I've edited it with 'digital stereo (IEC958) output'11:03
cristian_cbut nothing changes11:03
mumpitzelJanith: then use grub-repair as shown on this page FIRST11:03
cristian_cIf I select analog stereo input, Port tab is disabled11:04
mumpitzelJanith: and better learn how to use the terminal if you actually want to use it11:04
freefoxcristian_c: is there built-in audio?11:04
cristian_cfreefox, I don't see it11:04
freefoxcristian_c: is there analog stereo duplex?11:04
cristian_cfreefox, no :(11:05
cristian_cIt's strange11:05
freefoxcristian_c: now try restarting the pc11:05
cristian_cIt should show it, but it doesn't11:05
cristian_cfreefox, but I've not changed anything11:05
freefoxcristian_c: it doesn't matter, just restart11:06
cristian_cok11:06
cristian_c:(11:06
Erik_dcsomeone please?11:08
freefoxyes?11:09
Erik_dcI can't get  Netjack running?11:09
freefoxwhat is netjack?11:09
Erik_dcJack audio, its to connect 2 computers over the network11:10
Erik_dchttp://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/WalkThrough/User/NetJack211:10
Erik_dcbeen trying for more than a week now, and it used to work flawlessly11:10
cristian_cfreefox, rebooted but no changes11:11
Erik_dcthis is the response I get: http://pastebin.com/neyhbZdC11:11
nomada_hi , im having some problems installing yeoman, on a fresh install of ubuntu 13.04 , after installing nodejs from the repository, i run de command foun on yeoman.io , npm install -g yo ,, bue i get some erros11:17
nomada_so i run , it whit sudo11:17
nomada_and then it install ok11:17
nomada_but when i want to run yo, i get a lot of errors because ist not the correct way to instal yeoman, with sudo11:18
iguardian_hello everyone11:29
earspliT:)11:29
iguardian_i installed "sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone" (network etc is all setup correctly for this) but the thin clients when they boot, seem to have messed up graphics/things not loading. does one require a desktop gui installed on the server for it to work?11:30
Voibump11:32
Voii got ubuntu 13.04 gnome and the ubuntu software center its white font on white background, how do i change that?11:32
Voioh, seems like i found the related bug report, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/89987811:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 899878 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Software center have hardcoded colors and shows white font on white bg" [Medium,Confirmed]11:34
SP33Di have a scary problem i wanna do a upgrade and then the upgrade fails coz quota ecxeeded but df -h tells me i use 5 gb out of 50 on the only aviable file system / and all is mounted to that11:36
SP33Dwhat can be the problem? there is no swap or else11:36
Voiwhen i edit something in gedit using terminal with sudo, do i still have to use gsudo or how that was called, for "graphical sudo" like back in the old days11:36
SP33Dah simply stoped the quota service ^^11:43
SP33Dvoi: gksu is sudo graphicaly11:44
SP33Dgk = graphikal su11:44
SP33D:D11:44
jsg4Ciao a tt11:46
andiyeahhello11:50
andiyeahi have a sitecom n300 wlan adapter which uses 8192cu drivers and it doesnt get recognized11:50
andiyeahi combed various forum threads, tried compiling the driver (which fails) from realtek website and even installed some deb from google code with dkms modules building but none works11:51
andiyeahi would really appreciate any help :)11:51
andiyeah i tried both the deb from https://code.google.com/p/realtek-8188cus-wireless-drivers-3444749-ubuntu-1304/ as well as the drivers from the realtek website AND ndiswrapper which gives me a kernel panic ;X11:55
ns7can urandom produce randomness in a live cd like a normal installation?11:56
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nibbler_ns7: urandom does not produce randomnes ever11:58
maxvihi everybody! I have got an error when run software center. The error like this http://pastebin.com/eGdfSdV3 . Could anybody help me?11:58
nibbler_ns7: but its as good in a live environment as in a fixed intall. for security you should never use urandom, but random which relies on propoer entropy to produce randomness. mouse movements, keyboard input seems to be a good source11:59
dgryskianybody using the daily cloud images with vagrant? http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/raring/current/12:00
ns7nibbler_, ok, so i meant the random library which i assume Ubuntu uses during installation to hash keys12:00
ns7nibbler_, i have concerns regarding the randomness level of the keys12:01
dgryskins7: are you being paranoid or do you have proof?12:03
ns7dgryski, i read an article about it but i can't find it again now12:05
MonkeyDustabout what?12:05
dgryskiMonkeyDust: low entropy keys on embedded systems12:06
dgryskihttps://factorable.net/paper.html12:06
BluesKajHowdy all12:07
ns7dgryski, Zvi Gutterman; Benny Pinkas, Tzachy Reinman (2006-03-06): http://www.pinkas.net/PAPERS/gpr06.pdf12:08
dgryskins7: that paper is talking about a kernel released 8.5 years ago12:10
HotSpudshello12:11
nibbler_but a live cd is not an embedded system, as even the installer has plenty of human interaction12:11
dgryskiTry http://eprint.iacr.org/2012/251.pdf12:11
MonkeyDusttake the low entropy key discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, please12:12
ns7dgfdgf, ty12:12
HotSpudscan anyone make sense of- http://lowerstrata.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/canon-p-150-and-linux.html12:12
HotSpudsHaving real trouble injecting the P150 SANE into 13.04 64bit12:12
pshr!info12:14
pshr!hello12:14
pshr!apt12:14
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)12:14
HotSpuds!hello12:16
HotSpuds!rules12:17
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines12:17
pshr!welcome12:17
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ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:17
HotSpudsHow do you inject the Canon P150 SANE? Having trouble making sense of [http://lowerstrata.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/canon-p-150-and-linux.html]12:17
MonkeyDustpshr  use /msg ubottu to test !factoids, please12:20
pshrok MonkeyDust, :)12:21
mackwerk_Hi! I just installed ubuntu on my asus zenbook ux32vd and i installed powerstat because the battery time isn't very long. and it says avg watt usage is 16.20 which I think is kind o high regarding I only have that and xchat-gnome running :o12:29
qiyonghi, how do i find i386 pkgs i've installed, the system is amd64.12:30
andiyeahhello12:34
andiyeahi posted before about my problem with 8192cu driver12:34
tozenandiyeah: one again please12:34
fluffyponyhrm12:35
fluffyponyhas something gone wrong with the apt sources?12:35
fluffyponyhttp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bind9/dnsutils_9.8.1.dfsg.P1-4ubuntu0.2_amd64.deb12:35
fluffyponyamongst others, that 404's on multiple connections12:35
andiyeahtozen: compiling 8192cu driver fails12:35
andiyeahafter that i installed this: https://code.google.com/p/realtek-8188cus-wireless-drivers-3444749-ubuntu-1304/12:36
Equinox3cannot install skype on 64 bit. This error shows up" skype : Depends: skype-bin12:36
Equinox3E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."12:36
andiyeahmy adapter doesnt get detected12:37
fluffyponywtf12:38
fluffyponyhttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/12:38
fluffyponyif you check the ubuntu subdirectory there12:38
fluffyponyit's symlinked back up a folder12:38
fluffyponyie: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/12:38
BluesKajhavent added it to the 13.04 install yet12:38
BluesKajoops wrong chan12:38
tozenandiyeah: what ubuntu do u use?12:39
andiyeahtozen: 13.0412:39
tozenkernel?12:39
andiyeah3.8.0-1912:40
Equinox3does anyone have skype on 64 bit intel pentium 4 processors12:40
Equinox3my doesn't seem to want to install12:40
fluffyponyEquinox312:40
fluffyponyhave you tried to wget the deb?12:40
Equinox3tried the skype installation help on ubuntu.com. didn't help12:40
fluffyponyI'm getting major issues on th e archive12:41
fluffypony*the12:41
Equinox3yes i'm trying that now12:41
tozenandiyeah:do not compile on ubuntu 13.04, kernels 3.8 or 3.9 - this is from first sentence12:41
MonkeyDustandiyeah  the kernel currently used is -2612:41
andiyeahtozen: if you read on you would see that it is a patched driver12:41
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qiyonghi, how do i find i386 pkgs i've installed, the system is amd64.12:43
MonkeyDustqiyong  dpkg -l|grep i38612:44
qiyongMonkeyDust: i don't have any i386 pkgs, why apt-get update still tries i386 pkgs?12:45
MonkeyDustqiyong  maybe because you hace i386 sources12:45
MonkeyDusthave*12:45
fluffyponythis is fucked, how can there be no failover for the server?12:45
MonkeyDustfluffypony  mind your language12:46
qiyongMonkeyDust: you mean sources.list?12:46
MonkeyDustqiyong  yes12:46
fluffyponythe devops at Canonical are really retarded at times12:46
HotSpudswhat does parallel extraction mean?12:46
fluffyponysomeone needs to fire half of them and hire people who know what they're doing12:46
qiyongMonkeyDust: no12:46
fluffyponyI believe the OpenBSD crowd are looking for work.12:46
MonkeyDustfluffypony  no rants here, please12:46
MonkeyDustqiyong  type sudo apt-get update|pastebinit and paste the url here in the channel12:47
qiyongMonkeyDust: W: Failed to fetch http://mirror/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found12:49
MonkeyDustqiyong  it means you have that source activated, i guess12:51
_namecan somebody help me with a java problem i'm having?12:52
qiyongMonkeyDust: no, i don't have any deb-i386 at all12:52
qiyonghow can I debug?12:52
MonkeyDustqiyong  or a PPA maybe?12:52
qiyongwhat's PPA?12:52
MonkeyDustok, so no12:52
qiyongi use my internal mirror12:53
qiyongthis amd64 box12:53
qiyongso why it's fetching i386 files12:53
qiyongwhy i apache ps shows as: /usr/sbin/apach12:54
qiyongnot apache212:54
MonkeyDustqiyong  is that a 12.04 server?12:55
qiyongyes, the lts12:55
MonkeyDustqiyong  ok, better ask in #ubuntu-server, i'm sure they can help better12:55
_namecan somebody help me with a java problem i'm having? i cant scroll in this java window i have12:58
Biibounekk12:58
Biibounek12:58
Biibounek12:59
BudTubaHi...I am a complete newbie and trying to get sound going on my laptop.13:05
BudTubaI started alsamixer and can see that the digital sound is muted, but cannot figure out how to unmute it.13:07
MonkeyDustBudTuba  use the arrow keys to go there and press m13:07
BudTubaThat was good, but when I go to settings sound and test speakers there is no sound13:10
BudTubaThank you MonkeyDust, but still no sound in settings-sound13:11
MonkeyDustBudTuba  system settings > sound, you mean?13:11
tozenBudTuba: show the screenshot of the alsamixer, please13:13
BudTubayes sound settings volume test speakers = no sound13:13
MonkeyDustBudTuba  do you see on/off switch, up right?13:14
BudTubatozen>  how to do that?13:15
CaseyTrying to automount a raid1 volume during bootup. Can someone tell me if the last two lines (the raid volume) is type correctly in the fstab please  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5870022/13:15
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BudTubamonkeydust>  do not see on-off switch in settings window13:17
MonkeyDustBudTuba  what's the output of     cat /etc/issue ?13:20
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kokoye2017ls13:23
BudTubaMonkeyDust> Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l13:23
SP33Di cant find detail informations coz the name is a bit to often used13:24
SP33Dwhat is packeg girl1.2 is it for gnome only?13:24
SP33Dcan i remove it on servers?13:24
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anoneehello everyone, how to set LADSPA Plugin Multiband EQ as the default audio device for sound output instead of Built-in Audio Analog Stereo? the point is i wanna keep these settings after reboot13:28
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BluesKajanonee, are you using lva-md2 ?13:31
AviramHello, is anyone here?13:33
BudTubaMonkeyDust>Thanks anyway.  Gotta sign out and do some yard work.  Reading and watching this scroll is hard on old eyes.13:34
defauhello13:34
jacks_coolGetting an error message "Secure bott not enalbed"13:34
AviramI'm having problems adding CouchPotatoServer to startup sequence13:34
AviramI'm really clueless what I need to do..13:34
AviramI mean, I've followed the web instructions fully and yet it doesn't start13:35
gloweHey all! Im new to ubuntu and was wondering if anyone here can help me with a issue?13:36
MonkeyDustglowe  what issue?13:37
BluesKajAviram, don't see that in the repos , is it a ppa13:37
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gloweI cant use my USB dongle13:37
gloweIt isnt working13:37
AviramNo, It's an opensource git13:37
gloweI dont think the computer is recognizing the modem13:37
MonkeyDust!details | glowe13:37
ubottuglowe: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:37
gloweI have a problem with connecting to a mobile internet with my Huawei E175013:38
AviramBLuesKaj - When I put a script in init.d, does it run it as my user or as root?13:39
SP33DCan some one help me i search for a solution to lower the used disk inodes so i need to put many files in one file that is mount able13:39
SP33Dit is enought when it is mount able read only but read and write would be realy well13:40
BluesKajAviram, it runs as gksudo in gui or command run, or sudo in the terminal , user with root permissions13:42
Avirambrb13:44
gloweI have a problem with connecting to a mobile internet with my Huawei E175013:44
freddofrogall..I'm trying to do an install of 12.04.2 as a paravirt machine using virt-install.... the installer gets to the base system install but then bombs out when installing linux-headers-generic13:45
BluesKajparevirt ? do you virtual box , freddofrog?13:48
BluesKajmean13:48
yahyaadoes anyone know of a app that I can use on kubuntu to load music onto my ipod???13:49
MonkeyDust!ipod13:49
ubottuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod13:49
PessimistCan anyone link me a guide or tell me a program to help me with power management? For example, I want my laptop screen to dim a bit when I'm on a battery :)13:49
adep1hi13:52
freddofrogBluesKaj, no... Xen13:53
optimusprimemadep1, hi13:53
mackwerk_How can I set the default screen brightness in ubuntu 13 on a latop?13:54
bluesunmackwerk_, I'm not sure, but I think it's laptop-specific13:55
MonkeyDustPessimist  mackwerk_ alt-f2 > dconf-editor > find brightness13:56
qiyongaptitude shows pkgs in arhcitecture: i38613:56
qiyongthat status is 'p' though13:56
PessimistI've added acpi_backlight=vendor to /etc/default/grub like in this url: http://askubuntu.com/questions/288265/display-brightness-problem-with-ubuntu-13-04 and then just used the function keys on the keyboard.13:59
Pessimistsomeone was asking the same question14:00
adep1http://paste.ubuntu.com/5871124/14:00
Solid1anyone using weechat? is there any way, just like in irssi, to hide join/part messages?14:00
SP33DBig Problem i have no Loop device14:01
SP33Dhow can i handle that in ubuntu 1314:01
SP33Dshouldn't it be in the kernel or such14:01
gloweDoes anyone know how to get a usb internet to work?14:01
gloweUsing 13.0414:02
SP33Dglowe first of all you need to look with lsusb14:02
SP33Dif the usb device gets regonized14:02
MonkeyDustSolid1  i use irssi myself, but found this http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/weechat_faq.en.html#filter_irc_join_part_quit14:02
SP33Dthats the first step14:02
DJonesSolid1: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/hide_join_part_messages#Weechat Hope this helps14:02
gloweBus 03 Device 002 seems to find my Huawei14:03
Solid1thanks DJones14:04
gloweSP33D14:04
Solid1sorry didn't notice, thanks MonkeyDust14:05
qiyongwhere can I talk about apt internals?14:05
anoneeBluesKaj I have no idea about that? I'm using ubuntu 12.04.2, GNOME 3.4 in fallback mode.. and winehq :)14:06
linuxHi Flood Bot114:06
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anoneeoh BluesKaj u know i forgot which question was that, anyway I still don't know what is lva0-md214:07
anoneelva-md2*14:07
gloweSP33D , do you know what i should do next?14:07
linuxDear BJF can you say how to increase my internet speed in Ubuntu14:08
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adep1this command not work after logout   $ nohup gedit test.txt &14:08
AviramHow can I easily mount on startup extra partitions?14:08
lizgfstab14:09
AviramI'm not sure about the options I should put..14:09
linuxAviram can you say how to boost up my internet speed14:09
Aviramlinux buy a better connection? D:14:10
qiyongwhere can I talk about apt internals?14:10
Aviramlizg, How do I copy the options it uses for auto mount so it'll do it just on startup?14:10
SP33Dglowe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Huawei14:10
lizgcheck partitions uuid first14:11
MonkeyDustAviram  use sudo blkid to know the partition names, then add them in /etc/fstab14:12
AviramMonkeyDust the options doesn't matter?14:12
kr4zycoderjoin #<gnome-love>14:12
MonkeyDustAviram  if you're not sure, use 'defaults' as options    (without the quotes)14:12
linuxI am using Huwai USB modem . But getting speed no more than 25 KB/PS14:13
AviramMonkeyDust, I'm trying to do it through Disks gui14:14
AviramI've turned off auto mount and ticked start on startup14:14
Aviramand let the settings stay as is14:14
Avirambut it wont mount :C14:14
MonkeyDustAviram  why turned off automount?14:15
lizgvisit http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html14:15
Aviramin order to tick mount on startup..14:15
MonkeyDustAviram  first make it mount normally, then experiment with other options when it works14:16
lizguuid is right?14:16
AlexPortableIs it possible to run ubuntu 13.04 without the left bar?14:17
AlexPortableand just bring back the old taskbar14:17
k1l_!nounity | AlexPortable14:17
ubottuAlexPortable: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic14:17
linuxAviram, what do you mean by " buying better connection" ?14:18
MonkeyDustAlexPortable  i use ubuntu classic/fallback, it looks like gnom2 and is very fast14:18
StevenRAlexPortable: I use xubuntu instead14:18
BTZv14:18
k1l_AlexPortable: gnome-classic (gnome-fallback) is a gnome2 lookalike but its just reduced the settings from the panel. so you mitgh be better with xubuntu14:18
AlexPortableBut I want the top panel14:20
AlexPortableand the nice looks like control panel14:20
MonkeyDustAlexPortable  classic/fallback has it14:20
drieranHi and great day! I installed ubuntu on my bbb and runs fine. Boot time is 8.8 seconds. Can I reduce 3 or 5 seconds the boot time ?14:20
linuxAviram I am using Ubuntu 13.04 and a prepaid mobile SIM connection. can I avail of much speed that it is now14:20
AlexPortableclassic fallback also has the file, edit, view menu into the top bar?14:20
MonkeyDustAlexPortable  install it and see if it suits you14:20
AlexPortableand if it doesn't ?14:21
k1l_AlexPortable: see http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg14:21
AlexPortableThen I will have to reinstall windows14:21
AlexPortablek1l_: they aren't good14:21
MonkeyDustAlexPortable  what does windows have to do with it?14:21
AlexPortableMonkeyDust: i have now windows installed14:21
AlexPortablek1l_: I want the unity top bar, but not the left bar14:21
MonkeyDust!dualboot14:21
AlexPortablebut a normal start menu14:21
AlexPortableMonkeyDust: no space on my hdd for another partition14:21
k1l_AlexPortable: you want the global-menu?14:21
linuxDo you think Windows 7 is better than Ubuntu 13.04 ?14:22
AlexPortablei want the top bar with the file, edit, view14:22
MonkeyDustcoffee over my laptop, brb14:22
AlexPortableand the down bar from gnome 214:22
k1l_AlexPortable: you can make the left launcher invisible and use another launcher bar14:22
AlexPortablehow?14:22
k1l_!ot | linux14:22
linuxIn windows I got speed boosting software like Internet cyclone. But here in nothing like hat14:22
AlexPortablek1l_: how do I install the gnome 2 launcher bar?14:23
k1l_AlexPortable: you can install another launcher app. like AWN or such14:23
AlexPortableWill that bring back the old fucntionality of gnome 2?14:24
linuxCan anybody provide me OPEN DNS ?14:24
AlexPortableI want this http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-C57bmzKhdJQ/UVCIgFog_6I/AAAAAAAAncY/4yQ4-svcp7A/s1600/Screenshot+from+2013-03-25+13:14:47.png14:24
AlexPortablelinux: opendns.org14:24
k1l_AlexPortable: which functionality of gnome2?14:24
linuxHow to install Mobile Broadband in Ununtu?14:25
ahmednaguibi add mincraft launcher and i can not remove it help14:25
AlexPortablek1l_: the down bar in that picture14:25
AlexPortableahmednaguib: how you add it?14:25
k1l_AlexPortable: you want something else than that picture14:25
cfhowlettlinux, ask your ISP14:25
AlexPortablek1l_: what do you mean?14:25
k1l_AlexPortable: dont think that this is a unity session14:26
AlexPortablek1l_: why do I want something else than that picture?14:26
AlexPortableit is14:26
gustavoMorning guys14:26
ahmednaguibthrough commands from OMG UBUNTU site14:26
qiyongi get i386 files in /var/lib/apt/lists, why?14:26
k1l_AlexPortable: but take a look at tint (which is another panel program)14:26
AlexPortablek1l_: it was possible in 12.10, but not in 13.0414:26
linuxMy primary aim is to boost up my dial up speed14:26
AlexPortablek1l_: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-T6gUUEJn7o4/UVCIiEQsebI/AAAAAAAAncg/chiQWcOhxvA/s1600/Screenshot+from+2013-03-25+13:12:10.png14:26
bekkslinux: Get a faster connection then. :)14:27
ahmednaguibAlexPortable: can you help me14:27
as2000linux: thats the only way14:27
cfhowlettlinux, dial-up?   in this day and age?  are there really no alternatives in your area?14:27
linuxHow can I get a faster connection ?14:27
AlexPortableahmednaguib: then remove the commands14:27
k1l_AlexPortable: ask the one who made this pictures what he did exactly?14:27
Diamondcitelinux: If you want a faster connection, and have access to a faster external server, consider compressed SSH Tunneling14:27
as2000linux: DSL, cable satellite...14:28
bekkslinux: Ask your ISP, if you can get faster connection, and how much you will have to pay for it.14:28
ahmednaguibi did it with the tirmnal14:28
linuxI have a DSL Modem , but can afford a broadband connection14:28
ahmednaguiband donot have the commands to remove it14:28
AlexPortablek1l_:14:28
AlexPortablehttp://wazem.blogspot.nl/2013/03/how-to-run-gnome-panels-in-unity-ubuntu.html14:28
cfhowlettlinux, as you know, dial up is legacy technology.  I would be surprised if any kind of enhancement is under current development.14:28
as2000linux: ask your ISP, they may have a package you can afford14:29
linuxIn fact I want the optimum speed of dial up modem14:29
DiamondciteIf you are using Dial-up with a 2nd phone line, DSL might be more affordable with a single phone line14:29
as2000linux: the best you will get is 56k, providing the telephone line is super clean14:30
linuxCan I use DSL with Mobile Broadband ?14:30
bekkslinux: No.14:30
BluesKaj56K , more like 6k  :(14:30
bekkslinux: DSL and Mobile Broadband are different techniques.14:30
Diamondcitelinux: DSL is a technology, Mobile Broadband is something that goes over your cellphone connection and cannot be heard14:30
as2000BluesKaj: aye ;)14:30
linuxIn windows, I was told to switch off the security to increase the surfing speed.14:30
as2000linux: bad idea14:31
Diamondcitelinux: That's because in windows it eats needless speed to make sure it's safe14:31
cfhowlettlinux, bad command.  BAD!14:31
bekkslinux: Which is a pretty idiotic idea in fact.14:31
linuxI think ,If I could get at least 50 KB/PS that would be a great help to mine14:31
Diamondcite(Well eats depending on the anti virus or site filter app)14:31
BluesKajas2000, my bell dialup back in the 90s adverted as 56K , in relaity the fastest we ever saw was 6k at best14:31
as2000linux: NEVER surf without security14:32
AlexPortablek1l_: but it's not possible in 13.04 somehow14:32
cfhowlettlinux, as2000 +!14:32
Diamondcitelinux: I don't know what your mobile brand plan is capable of. A line cannot go faster than it's limit without some form of compression14:32
k1l_!details | AlexPortable14:32
LjLlinux: dialup is a different thing from DSL14:32
bekkslinux: You will never get 50KB/s with a dial up connection, since 56kB/s is the theoretical maximum.14:32
AlexPortablek1l_: ?14:32
antithesisHello14:32
linuxBut in Ubuntu where is such  security ?14:32
k1l_AlexPortable: "what" is "where" not possible14:32
Diamondcitebekks: Please watch your case sensitive?14:32
antithesisHow come https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/946956 still isn't solved?14:33
cfhowlettantithesis, greetings14:33
anoneelinux can you try your modem on another OS now?14:33
k1l_AlexPortable: if i tell you "my car just doesnt work" you wouldnt know what to fix, too :)14:33
bekksDiamondcite: I know that, thats why I wrote exactly what I wrote ;)14:33
ubottuAlexPortable: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 946956 in qt-at-spi (Ubuntu) "lyx crashes in open/save file dialog" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:33
LjLbekks: but it's wrong14:33
Diamondcitebekks: Really? It's the kB = Kb?14:33
BluesKajlinux, if you a DSL option , it's worth the cost14:33
BluesKajhave14:34
as2000BluesKaj: best dialup connection I ever got was somewhere around that proividing it did not rain.14:34
fjodorwhich filesystem should i choose if i want to install ubuntu directly onto an usb stick?14:34
anoneelinux because companies usually reduce the speed when the credit is over14:34
AlexPortablek1l_: all websites I see, if you install gnome-panel, it removes unity14:34
bekksDiamondcite: Nope. kilobyte is different from kilobit. :)14:34
BluesKajas2000, :)14:34
cfhowlett!usb|fjodor,14:34
ubottufjodor,: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent14:34
DiamondciteSince we don't know where in the West Asian Continent linux is, it's hard to see that person's available options14:34
antithesisHow come https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/946956 still isn't solved?14:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 946956 in qt-at-spi (Ubuntu) "lyx crashes in open/save file dialog" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:34
AlexPortablek1l_: I don't have full details yet since I don't want to wipe windows, and then find out it may not be possible14:34
Diamondcitebekks: But a 56k dial up modem only does 56kbit...14:35
k1l_AlexPortable: no, thats not true.14:35
hurrycaneo!14:35
fjodorcfhowlett: no persistent live usb14:35
hurrycaneciao14:35
linuxI use prepaid connection14:35
fjodorcfhowlett: no live install, pure install14:35
anoneelinux so make sure this isn't the case, just try it on another OS (an OS the you know for sure that works)14:35
k1l_AlexPortable: please come back if you have a actuall issue.14:35
as2000linux: invest in DSL, check for a package. In the long run you will not regret it and NEVER go without security14:35
bekksDiamondcite: yeah, and he wants 50 kilobyte per second, which is impossible with a 56 kilobit modem.14:35
anoneelinux I know it's prepaid, when your prepaid credit is over, they don't stop your connection, they just leave you with this basic speed14:35
linuxBut the modem shows at the most 7.5 MB/PS speed14:36
as2000Mobile broadband speed also depends your approximate location to the cell tower. I have seen dialup speeds with that service14:37
Diamondcitelinux: Please consider using the /nick command to pick a new name.. too many highlights..14:37
linuxDo you have any such domain like : http://192.168.1.114:37
anoneelinux my opinion is just try another OS, or check your credit online if possible.14:37
auronandacelinux: that is a local network14:37
AlexPortablek1l_: ok. my issue is that software center can't find gnome-panel14:37
bekkslinux: Thats not a domain, but an URL pointing to an IP.14:37
as2000linux: that is an internal ip address such as your router14:38
linuxyah, I am saying it14:38
k1l_AlexPortable: not true :)14:38
linuxYou told me to change the OS, but I became very much fond of Ubuntu, instead of slow speed14:39
AlexPortablek1l_: should I provide with screenshot?14:39
linuxyes14:39
k1l_AlexPortable: i can prove you are wrong: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=raring&searchon=names&keywords=gnome-panel14:40
DiamondciteTrying to speed up a connection by more than 50% is offend very difficult...14:40
Diamondciteerr offend=often14:40
auronandace!info gnome-panel | AlexPortable14:40
ubottuAlexPortable: gnome-panel (source: gnome-panel): launcher and docking facility for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.6.2-0ubuntu3 (raring), package size 336 kB, installed size 1352 kB14:40
k1l_AlexPortable: even tested it here on 13.10 so again: im talking about a made up problem anymore14:40
as2000linux: OS not going affect speed all that much. Stay with Ubuntu if you enjoy it. Just get a better internet connection14:40
DiamondciteAlexPortable: How about trying sudo apt-get install gnome-panel14:41
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linuxI am staying in a remote village  where a speedy connection is impossible14:41
auronandacelinux: we can't do anything about that14:42
linuxSo, you better tell me from the beginning, how to set up my Mobile Broad band connection ?14:42
DiamondciteAsking dial up to go 700% faster is also impossible14:42
AlexPortableDiamondcite: ah after apt-get update it works14:42
linuxIs there nothing like speed boosting software ?14:42
as2000linux: ok then satellite or DSL is probably your choices. DSL would be less expensive and more reliable than satellite.14:42
ns7How can I force a program which listens on one port to use a different port?14:42
cfhowlettlinux, someone suggested you ask your ISP ... oh, wait.  That was me!@14:43
Diamondcitelinux: Last time I used a Huawei 1691 USB Modem, I pluged it in, setup the settings under Mobile Broadband in network manager, and it worked.14:43
mirakhi14:43
cfhowlettmirak, greetiings14:43
Diamondcitelinux: in my case I needed a username of "My cellphone number with spaces", a password of "myPin" and the correct "broadband.apn"14:44
mirakis there an incremental backup tool that allows unlike dejadup to easily acces the files ?14:44
linuxIf I connect the the DSL modem without connection then too the AUTO ETHERNET SHOWS THAT IT IS CONNECTED14:44
bekksmirak: rdiff-backup14:44
Diamondcitelinux: A DSL modem is USELESS without a DSL plan and a phone line WITH DSL activated14:44
as2000linux did you register the MAC address with the ISP?14:44
Diamondcitelinux: All you are getting is the modem's built in router which doesn't go anywhere.14:44
linuxI do not know what is MAC address ?14:45
Diamondciteas2000: MAC address? Only Cable is supposed to need that. DSL is supposed to be based on login names and physical phone cards14:45
as2000linux: there should be a sticker on the bottom of the unit with the MAC address listed. ISP needs that to see it on the system14:46
as2000Diamondcite: ISP needs that to register device on network. At least that has been my experience14:47
mirakbekks, the default backup is dejadupe in ubuntu right ?14:47
auronandaceas2000: that assumes you are using a router supplied by your isp (not everyone does)14:47
linuxThen finally what do you suggest? shall I change my OS  or shall  put al;l effort to bnoost up speed again14:47
Diamondciteas2000: I guess different regions have different techs.14:47
as2000DSL modems need unique identification on network14:48
Diamondciteas2000: For me as long as I have an active DSL line, I can buy a modem from a brick and mortar store and it just works14:48
Diamondciteas2000: I am SURE you are thinking about Cable14:48
bekksmirak: I dont know. I pretty never using "default" tools, but I choose my tools on my own.14:48
as2000Diamondcite: hmm maybe so14:48
Diamondciteas2000: DSL needs a Physical line card to work. While on cable, you just need to bring your physical cable modem with you. (Assuming it's the same sub division)14:49
linuxI do have my Windows-8 OS , but uninstalled it after getting Ubuntu14:49
Diamondcitelinux: What are you running to use this IRC channel, RIGHT NOW?14:49
as2000Diamondcite: then they probably have autodetect for the MAC. I will have to research that. Thanks14:49
linuxTHAT HUWAI USB MODEM WITH A VODAFONE SIM CARD14:49
cfhowlett!SHOUT14:50
ubottuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.14:50
linuxsorry friend14:50
cfhowlettlinux, no harm no foul14:50
BluesKajas2000, IME MAC addresses are only required for wifi connection ID14:51
linuxwould youn mine saying that how long does it take in transmitting my words to you ?14:51
auronandacelinux: there is no trick to speed up your connection. the speed you get is the speed you get14:51
BluesKajbe it DSL or cable14:51
Diamondcitelinux: Are you on Windows 8? Ubuntu? Some cellphone?14:51
as2000or Mobile broadband ;)14:51
linuxI am in Ubuntu 13.0414:52
linuxand Mobile Broadband with USB modem14:52
as2000linux: then your speed is dependent on the proximity of the cell tower14:52
mirakbekks, i am not sure if i should use ntfs or ext4, what do you use ?14:52
bekksmirak: Using it for what?14:53
BluesKajI'm old fashioned , my cellphone is just a phone here , as200014:53
linuxTower is within one kilometer from my PC14:53
Diamondcitelinux: So you are already in it..not sure how we can teach you to use something you are already using..14:53
DiamondciteNow I am just very confused...14:53
auronandaceDiamondcite: he wants it to go faster14:53
mirakbekks, for a backup drive14:53
linuxNo I am being confused when it shows Auto ethernet14:54
mirakbekks, obviously ext4 would be safer, but, at the same time you can use only linux14:54
DiamondciteTracking down the your ISP, you seem to have an ISP that offers everything from GRPS to 3G to LTE  AND a Fixed line broadband?14:54
mirakin case of14:54
linuxMine is Vodafone Lite14:54
Diamondcitelinux: Really? I see airtel for India..14:54
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as2000linux: it is what it is, there is no magic software to help your situation. Improve your connection by changing it14:55
bekksmirak: In terms of security, there is no difference. In terms of usability, there is. NTFS cant handle POSIX file extensions, so I am not using, especially for backup purposes.14:55
AlexPortableHow do I remove write protection from usb stick?14:55
mirakyou mean preserve the rights bekks ?14:55
linuxBut I think after having incessant conversation with you that my internet speed is sufficient enought to communicate accross the Sea14:56
bekksmirak: Correct.14:56
mirakbekks, i think i will just use ext4, otherwise I might be tempted to bring the disk outside of my home14:56
miraklol14:57
linuxYet, now I guess you have a lot of knowledge regarding OS and connection , so please get in touch with me via my email id: If you dont mind I can share it with you14:57
linuxI just wanna test how long does it take to reach you14:58
Diamondcite(Wow it's expensive!) [In relative currency] 198 for 2GB of 2G mobile broadband VS 699 for 2Mbit DSL wth 3GB limit.14:59
Diamondcitelinux: You can use ping for that14:59
linuxwhat is ping ?14:59
maroloccioa command15:00
Diamondcite--- Ping reply from linux : 1.91 second(s)15:00
cfhowlettlinux, speedtest.net will give you a nice rundown15:00
as2000in the terminal15:00
linuxWhat can I do with it ?15:00
maroloccioman ping15:00
maroloccioopen terminal, type this: man ping15:01
Diamondcitelinux: It took 1.9 seconds for me to send a line of text to you and for that text to get back to me.15:01
as2000cfhowlett: I was going to say that :)15:01
linuxFrom where can I open the terminal ?15:01
DiamondcitePress CTRL + ALT + T15:01
linuxLet me note it15:01
DiamondciteOr click on that black box on the left =P15:01
linuxokay I reduced it in writing15:02
as2000or the super(windows) key15:02
as2000then type terminal15:02
linuxYas got the windows key15:02
CaseyTrying to automount a raid1 volume during bootup. Can someone tell me if the last two lines (the raid volume) is type correctly in the fstab please  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5870022/15:03
* Diamondcite hands as2000 the baton and moves off.15:03
as2000LOL!!! Diamondcite15:04
Caseycorrection. this is the right link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5871317/15:04
linuxI worte man ping. what to do next ?15:04
bekkslinux: press enter15:04
Caseylinux: type 192.168.1.115:04
linuxIn the last line it shows"manual page ping(8)15:06
clue_hdid you read the manual15:06
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linuxyes. And the last one is Availability15:07
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bekkslinux: Did you read whats been shown after "man ping"?15:07
bekkslinux: That page explained what ping does.15:07
mirakbekks, about permissions by the way, what permission do you access your backup disk with ?15:08
linuxsystem Manager's Manual iputils15:08
AlexPortableHow do I change gnome-panel settings?r15:08
AlexPortablerightclick isn't working15:08
bekksmirak: using sudo.15:08
mirakbekks, is there anyway to prevent a stupid rm -fr / done by root or your own user ?15:09
bekksmirak: By default, that doesnt work anymore.15:09
mirakbekks, can you elaborate ?15:09
bekksmirak: And the prevention is: have a backup.15:09
miraklol15:09
mirakbekks, a backup unpluggued as little as possible15:09
linuxNow should I press "h" or "q" ?15:09
mirakbekks, or on the network15:09
clue_hlinux, q15:10
mirak?15:10
gordonjcpmirak: yes, actually15:10
gordonjcpmirak: but don't try it in case it doesn't work15:10
* as2000 is working on a second cup of coffee15:10
linuxNow a second line appears  showing : linus-system-product-name:-S15:11
clue_hit's the bash prompt that takes commands you type15:11
mirakgordonjcp, but if you use sudo and copy the same right than your owner, then why not just copy with the user directly ?15:11
linuxwhat should I do next ?15:12
gordonjcpmirak: I don't understand the question15:12
barnjiHello, I just pulled a dork move and chown -R'd my entire /media directory.  Can anyone tell me who the default owner:group is?15:12
mirakgordonjcp, sorry i wanted to adress it to bekks15:13
bekksmirak: Because I am taking backups as root, not user.15:13
linuxclue are u there ?15:13
mirakbarnji, drwxr-xr-x   5 root root15:13
clue_hlinux, yes, but i am not sure why you want to ping15:14
barnjiThank you15:14
AlexPortableHow do I change gnome-panel settings?r15:14
linuxBecause you guided me so ?15:14
jribbarnji: /media itself has a default owner/group.  But there isn't one for anything under that.15:14
linuxNow tell me where shoud I write 192.168.1.115:14
bekkslinux: Why do you want to ping?15:15
clue_hlinux, i arrived later. to ping, type: ping followed by the ip address you just typed15:15
barnjii have windows partition  that was chowned in media and System Reserved directory with bootmgr in it15:15
bekksbarnji: you cant chown NTFS, since NTFS does not know what linux permissions are.15:16
linuxis it ? ping 198.168.1.115:16
clue_hyes15:16
linuxshall I enter15:17
clue_hlinux, yes. are you testing connectivity?15:17
barnji@bekks good to know, any idea about the bootmgr? I presume root:root as well15:17
* as2000 pinged linux 2.21 secs.15:17
bekksbarnji: Thats a NTFS partition too.15:17
barnjiahh okay15:17
barnjigreat15:18
barnjithank you15:18
linuxIt is showing 56(84) bytes of date15:18
linuxwhat does it mean ?15:18
bekkslinux: Its showing even more. It shows you the amount of time needed to get an answer from 192.168.1.115:18
linuxgirl192.168.1.1 destination unreachable?15:19
linuxLinuxgirl then which is reachable one ?15:19
bekkslinux: We dont know which IPs you have in your home network.15:19
clue_hare you trolling lol15:20
as2000linux: why are you pinging your router?15:20
linuxgirlwhat is router?15:21
as2000linuxgirl: the device that routes traffic on your home/business network15:21
UbUnTiViTyHello15:22
UbUnTiViTyIs this the proper channel to ask about Ubuntu Touch???15:22
gordonjcpUbUnTiViTy: no, #ubuntu-touch is15:22
linuxgirlas2000 thanks!15:23
Craig`Hey guys. I just recently bought a new DVD drive and can't seem to find it. I bought it because my old one broke and I probably changed a whole bunch of settings a while ago to try and get it working. I can't find it in /media (there's no cdrom0 etc)15:24
UbUnTiViTyThanks, gordonjcp15:25
Craig`plus when I inserted the disc I didn't hear any noises, and this drive is meant to be noisy15:25
as2000Craid: does lspci show anything in the terminal?15:25
as2000sorry all, my fat fingers on the keyboard ;)15:26
Craig`heh. no, it says nothing about cd rom15:26
Craig`http://paste.ubuntu.com/5871391/15:27
as2000Craig: lsusb?15:30
as2000Craig sorry, its lsusb -tv15:31
Craig`http://paste.ubuntu.com/5871406/ -- I don't see any mention15:31
glda19how can i reset java settings firefox so that i get the dialogbox15:32
qiyongservice or start/stop, which toolset is the go?15:32
DarkFoxHello15:32
DarkFoxCouple of tthings...15:33
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as2000Craig: is it mounted?15:33
DarkFoxOne I can't do ctrl-alt up but I can do the rest to  move from workspace to workspace. Is there any other way to get up? (Currently I am clicking on firefox on the launcher as it's on the top right)15:33
Craig`I just bought this drive, my old one stopped working so I probably came here for help ages ago, probably unmounted it and all sorts15:33
Craig`as2000: when I google they say how to mount it, but there's nothing in /media relating to cdrom15:33
glda19how can i reset java on firexfox so ive got the dialogbox back15:34
DarkFoxsecondly, is there any reason to why my btrfs filesystem won't mount ? I have a file on windows -> archlinux.vhd, I have done losetup -f --show archlinux.vhs; partx -f --show /dev/loop1; cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/loop1p2 archroot; but I can't mount -t btrfs /dev/mapper/archroot /mnt/arch15:35
DarkFoxmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/archroot,mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/archroot, etc etc15:36
DarkFoxuseless information there and in dmesg I get15:36
DarkFox[ 1866.878698] device fsid 57bdb7fc-12df-4d8f-b570-2db6bf8cb13d devid 1 transid 41 /dev/mapper/archroot15:36
DarkFox[ 1866.881450] btrfs: disk space caching is enabled15:36
DarkFoxAnyone have any suggestions for either of these issues?15:36
Craig`my main problem is that i'm wanting to install windows for steam gaming, but I wasn't able to boot from usb so I had to resort to CDs, but my old drive didn't work, or so I thought that's what the reason was.. so I bought a new one.. changed a bunch of settings before buying a new one though15:37
glda19how can i reset java on firefox15:37
DarkFoxCraig`: For steam I suggest trying archlinux; but again in #ubuntu I could suggest ubuntu but I don't have any experience with it for any recent year.15:38
DarkFoxI know it works on arch though :)15:38
verysoftoiletpprtrying to chsh -s /usr/bin/fish15:39
jhutchinsglda19: Nobody knows what you mean by "reset java on firefox".15:39
verysoftoiletpprwith sudo chsh -s /usr/bin/fish user15:39
verysoftoiletpprI get chsh: PAM authentication failed15:39
as2000Steam is in the Ubuntu repository15:39
verysoftoiletpprtrying to chsh -s /usr/bin/fish15:39
verysoftoiletpprI get You may not change the shell for 'user'.i15:39
verysoftoiletpprhelp15:39
jribverysoftoiletppr: can you log in as the user?15:40
verysoftoiletpprjrib I'm logged in as user15:40
jribverysoftoiletppr: pastebin full input and output15:40
DarkFoxglda19: restart firefox?15:40
DarkFoxglda19: rm ~/.java*15:40
glda19darfdox and than15:41
DarkFoxverysoftoiletppr: sudo chsh -s /usr/bin/fish user15:41
DarkFoxglda19: you weren't clear with your question I assume you wish to clear the java cache?15:41
qiyongwhat is var/log/user.log for?15:42
glda19DarkFox: i think it15:42
glda19DarkFox: how do i do that15:43
verysoftoiletpprDarkFox jrib http://pastebin.com/ThMfHAsZ15:43
DarkFoxglda19: find ~ -exec grep java :15:43
glda19and15:43
jribverysoftoiletppr: getent passwd user15:43
glda19DarkFox: how do i clear java cache15:44
verysoftoiletpprjrib user:x:1000:1000:user,,,:/home/user:/usr/local/bin/fish15:44
jribverysoftoiletppr: /usr/local/bin/fish isn't in /etc/shells so you can't use chsh15:44
DarkFoxglda19: you delete it15:44
jribverysoftoiletppr: you should be able to "sudo -i" and do it though (make sure you specify target user)15:45
verysoftoiletpprjrib chsh: PAM authentication failed15:45
DarkFoxGod I hate ubuntu15:45
DarkFox:(15:45
jribverysoftoiletppr: -ENOCONTEXT15:45
DarkFoxarchlinux, freebsd, gentoo, slackware, debian. ALL WORK FINE15:46
DarkFoxlol15:46
verysoftoiletpprjrib what is that15:46
jribverysoftoiletppr: if you're having trouble with the "sudo -i" suggestion, add the path to your current log-in shell to /etc/shells or edit /etc/passwd (carefully) by hand15:46
DarkFoxAnyone have any suggestion for my btrfs mounting issue?15:47
auronandaceDarkFox: btrfs is still considered not stable15:47
diren_antakiaHi! Somebody can read my message?15:48
auronandacediren_antakia: plenty can15:48
diren_antakiaauronandace: thank you.15:48
verysoftoiletpprjrib the problem was the lack of my current login shell on /etc/shells15:49
jribverysoftoiletppr: right15:49
verysoftoiletpprI deleted my current when adding the new one15:49
DarkFoxWow15:50
DarkFoxauronandace: Works everywhere else15:50
DarkFoxauronandace: Should mount at least15:50
DarkFoxit won't15:50
verysoftoiletppr jrib , DarkFox thanks for your helps15:50
diren_antakiaCan somebody please tell me what is the kingsoft-office_9.1.0.4096~a11p1_x86.tar.xz which is a link from this page: http://wps-community.org/download.html . this is a portable version? or a source code which we will compile to install it?15:50
DarkFoxverysoftoiletppr: :)15:50
test1304please help macchanger dont work ubuntu 13.0415:50
auronandaceDarkFox: i just want you to be aware that it shouldn't be used for production stuff15:51
auronandaceDarkFox: yet15:51
DarkFoxauronandace: I've been using it for over a year with archlinux on encrypted partitions.15:51
DarkFoxNo problems with it15:51
DarkFoxZero and I have backups15:51
DarkFoxI'm on my school's laptop. I have been permitted to dualboot but not re-partition this thing.15:52
auronandaceDarkFox: you are aware it is still under development?15:52
DarkFoxI wish to get archlinux booting but due to the lack of documentation for booting virtual disks form microsoft's bootloader I jumped over to wubi knowing it works and I'm almost there just need to access my filesystem.15:53
* DarkFox could boot arch usb to fix this but I want to get it to work on ubuntu15:53
auronandaceDarkFox: seriously, stay away from wubi, its a maintainence nightmare15:53
test1304please help macchanger dont work ubuntu 13.04 any other way to CHANGE MAC ADDRESS 13.04 ?15:53
DarkFoxauronandace: Not so bad with what needs to be done15:54
auronandaceDarkFox: wubi support is being completely dropped15:54
DarkFoxI understand how it's booting. I don't intend to keep with ubuntu just need to use it as a fallback until I have my arch booting fine15:54
clue_htest1304, have you tried to edit your connection in network manager by choosing 'cloned mac address'15:54
DarkFoxauronandace: I'm on ubuntu 12.04 - LTS I shouldn't have lost support ?15:54
test1304yes15:54
test1304it doesnt work too15:55
DarkFoxJust cause booted through wubi doesn't mean that you can't help with mounting my btrfs filesystem that I have already exposed from my partitioned virtual hard disk that lives on window's HDD15:55
auronandaceDarkFox: for 12.04 wubi is only supported 18 months15:56
DarkFoxFor a distro with such heavy funding I would have expected better support15:56
diren_antakiaCan somebody please tell me what is the kingsoft-office_9.1.0.4096~a11p1_x86.tar.xz which is a link from this page: http://wps-community.org/download.html . this is a portable version? or a source code which we will compile to install it?15:57
DarkFoxauronandace: Ubuntu is ubuntu. Regarless on version, it should mount my btrfs15:57
DarkFoxWhy are we arguing? No sollutions or suggestions...15:58
DarkFoxAlso I bet wubi was maintnence hell because no one undderstood how it worked underneith and wouldn't be able to support it15:59
test1304ubuntu 13.04 is working like "POOR MAN'S WINDOWS 95"15:59
DarkFoxtest1304: That sounds accurate15:59
* DarkFox will return back to archlinux soon. This ubuntu environment and suport-standards are really surprising me for one of the largest channels on this network.16:00
DarkFoxAtleast arch has excelent support and if something breaks. It wasn't the developers. But rather the user or upstream (in which case would affect only testing and be patched quickly)16:01
DarkFoxand the wiki is useful16:01
DarkFox/end ubuntu rant16:01
auronandace!btrfs | DarkFox16:03
ubottuDarkFox: Btrfs is a new filesystem available for Ubuntu. It is currently marked as experimental, and should not be used for important data. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs16:03
xanguahow can i disable firefox download notification popup¿ or at least put them where they were by default; they wer on the bottom and now after firefox 21 or 22 was released they are now on the top16:03
jribDarkFox: boot a live cd and see if your problem persists (I don't see why it would though).  Anyway, let's try to stick to support.  Ask your question, use a pastebin for details etc.  btrfs is still under dev (feel free to use it, just know that if you didn't already) and wubi was never recommended by most here.  I don't even know what your issue is after reading like 20 lines of scrollback16:03
DarkFoxauronandace: If so experimental and I've been using it for over a year (maybe 2) with no problems and with a forever up to date environment as "unstable" as archlinux. NEVER BROKEN16:04
DarkFoxjrib: I'll use the paste16:04
diren_antakiaCan somebody please tell me what is the kingsoft-office_9.1.0.4096~a11p1_x86.tar.xz which is a link from this page: http://wps-community.org/download.html . this is a portable version? or a source code which we will compile to install it?16:04
auronandaceDarkFox: at the end of that factoid is a wiki page, that was why i showed it to you, hopefully something helpful on there for you16:04
DJonesDarkFox: Ubuntu isn't archlinux so please don't compare the two, its considered experimental in UBuntu, so you have to treat it as such16:05
auronandacediren_antakia: that page also has a deb16:05
auronandacediren_antakia: just so you know, installing anything outside of the repos won't get any support here16:06
robertzaccourIs Ubuntu LTS based on Debian testing?16:07
auronandacediren_antakia: any reason you want kingsoft? (its still in alpha) what is wrong with libreoffice?16:08
xangua!lts | robertzaccour16:08
ubotturobertzaccour: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)16:08
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auronandace!debian | robertzaccour16:08
ubotturobertzaccour: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/what-is-debian.html - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!16:08
robertzaccourxangua: But is it based on Debian testing?16:08
test1304ubuntu 13.04 is working like "POOR MAN'S WINDOWS 95" ubuntu 12.04 is good16:09
DarkFoxjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5871508/16:09
auronandacetest1304: do you have a support issue?16:09
robertzaccourauronandace: That's not what I asked. I asked if LTS is based on Debian testing.16:09
diren_antakiaauronandace: i know has a deb package. i ask before i want to learn.16:09
DJonestest1304: If you're going to make comments like that, at least add "that from your persepective, " 13.04 works perfectly for a lot of people16:09
DarkFoxjrib: I unmounted everything and restarted for the logs16:09
xanguarobertzaccour: yes it is "Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process."16:10
DarkFoxwell closed luks and the loopback16:10
diren_antakiaauronandace: i know it woruld not support here, but i am asking if it is portable or a source code or something.16:10
diren_antakiaauronandace: i did not ask how to install.16:10
robertzaccourxangua: So regular releases are based on Debian unstable correct?16:10
xanguarobertzaccour: i just said yes it is what you asked16:11
auronandacediren_antakia: ask in kingsoft support, its their website16:11
jribDarkFox: presumably, the exact same incantation works on your arch install?  If I had to guess, it's an issue with the version you are using on ubuntu being too old since 12.04 is over a year old16:11
jrib"couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (40)"16:11
xanguarobertzaccour: do you have a apecific ubuntu support issue¿16:11
test1304MACCHANGER does not work ubuntu 13.0416:11
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DarkFoxjrib: I'm waiting for the apt-get upgrade still16:11
jribDarkFox: what are you upgrading to?16:12
DarkFoxjrib: erm16:12
qiyongservice or start/stop, which toolset is the go?16:12
DarkFoxdid apt-get update && apt-get upgrade16:12
DJonesdiren_antakia: Apart from some spam from the developers, I've not seen any comments about kingsoft office in here, so I can't see there being many people having used it, as auronandace said, you're best bet is to check with kingsofts own support network16:12
DarkFoxAm I doing that incorrectly or were you thinking I did a dist-upgrade?16:12
auronandace!dist-upgrade | DarkFox16:13
ubottuDarkFox: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.16:13
jribDarkFox: that's fine.  I just wanted to understand what you were doing more clearly.  You might consider https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack to get a more recent kernel on there.  I'm not familiar enough with btrfs to tell you exactly what you need.  But if you could figure out exactly what options aren't supported that you enabled, that would obviously be a great help16:13
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qiyongwill upstart replace sysvinit?16:14
jribqiyong: it already has...16:14
robertzaccourxangua: I first asked if Ubuntu LTS is based on Debian testing. You replied its based on Debian (Didin't specify testing or not, which was my exact question). I then asked if regular releases are based on Debian unstable. Again, you told me they're based on Debian, not specifically answering my question on if its based on testing or unstable.16:14
auronandaceqiyong: it already has, for quite some time now16:14
jrib!upstart | qiyong16:14
ubottuqiyong: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/16:14
DarkFoxjrib: I haven't enabled anything but compress=lzo but that's a runtime mount option16:14
qiyongjrib: so service or start/stop is going to replace service(8)?16:15
DarkFoxI added that after doing the install but should still mount16:15
robertzaccourxangua: So yes, my issue is a specific question, not a general (Debian based) but specificially if its based on Debian TESTING.16:15
jribqiyong: the current service command already works through upstart16:15
xanguarobertzaccour: it is not an ubuntu support issue, if you don't have an ubuntu support issue you can keep quiet or take it to #ubuntu-offtopic16:15
Nmbr1test1304: do you need to change your mac or are you just pointing out macchanger doesn't work under 13.04?16:16
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robertzaccourxangua: It is a specific question regarding Ubuntu. What version of Debian Ubuntu LTS is based on is very much Ubuntu related.16:16
jrib!lts | robertzaccour16:16
ubotturobertzaccour: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)16:16
jribrobertzaccour: yes, LTS is based on testing and non-LTS are based on unstable16:16
BluesKajrobertzaccour, or perhaps #debian16:16
* DarkFox now using faster LOCAL mirror :P16:16
robertzaccourjrib: thank you16:16
jribrobertzaccour: was thinking the bot would point you to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS16:17
* DarkFox not used to gui :|16:17
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qiyongjrib: so service(8) works with all the things, start/stop not, my script should use which one?16:17
robertzaccourxangua: jrib was answered my question specifically to what I asked. He didnt't say (Based on Debian). I knew that already, or else I wouldn't have asked WHICH version it was based on.16:17
jribqiyong: what is your script and what does it do?16:17
robertzaccourjrib: Again, thank you.16:18
qiyongjrib: so start daemons16:18
auronandacerobertzaccour: even if lts is based on testing that doesn't mean you can mix debian repos (just incase that was your intention)16:18
jribqiyong: give more details16:18
robertzaccourauronandace: nor did I intend to. Just wanting to know thanks.16:18
qiyongjrib: to start failed services16:18
qiyongjrib: so start various failed ones16:19
qiyongjrib: so i need to use sevice or start to start them16:19
jribqiyong: I can't really give you advice because I'm not sure exactly what you are doing.  But I guess if you are asking what command should you use to manage services that may or may not have upstart scripts, yes use the "service" command.  I suspect though that there may a better way to do whatever it is you actually want to do16:20
DarkFoxhttp://darkfox.us.to/images/2013-07-13_14:01:58_1920x1080.png http://darkfox.us.to/images/2013-07-13_14:06:33_1920x1080.png16:20
DarkFoxjrib: That's what I'm used to :P16:21
verysoftoiletpprhi16:21
verysoftoiletpprI'm installing things with pip16:21
verysoftoiletpprbut import is not finding them16:21
verysoftoiletpprubuntu 12.04.02 LTS16:21
verysoftoiletpprsystem python 2.7.316:21
verysoftoiletpprhelp16:21
jribverysoftoiletppr: I would suggest using virtualenv.  But if you don't want to for some reason, give more details about what exactly you installed.  Include full input and output of install and failed imports in a pastebin16:23
jribDarkFox: *cough* transparent terminals *cough*16:23
DarkFoxjrib: PRoblem?16:24
DarkFoxs/R/r/16:24
jribDarkFox: just personal aesthetic differences :)16:24
DarkFoxjrib: :P16:24
DarkFoxon the right terminal it's just a mockup curses environment16:24
verysoftoiletpprjrib I've got virtualenv installed and configured16:24
DarkFoxI typed it all up in vim (ansi colours and all)16:24
jribverysoftoiletppr: are you using it?16:25
verysoftoiletppralthough I don't have any venv activated16:25
verysoftoiletpprand I had not venv activaed when I installed the modules16:25
xangua how can i disable firefox download notification popup¿ or at least put them where they were by default; they wer on the bottom and now after firefox 21 or 22 was released they are now on the top16:25
jribverysoftoiletppr: well I'd recommend sticking to virtualenv and not using pip system-wide.  In either case, need more info (pastebin of actual input commands and output) to help more16:25
DarkFoxjrib: What your screen look like?16:25
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jribDarkFox: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic16:25
DarkFoxOkay16:25
verysoftoiletpprjrib Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): sh in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages16:26
verysoftoiletpprRequirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): sh in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages16:26
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jribverysoftoiletppr: use a pastebin and include input and output16:26
DarkFoxJust not passwords16:26
DarkFoxhttp://ascii.io can be useful if there is a lot16:27
verysoftoiletpprjrib $ sudo pip install sh16:27
verysoftoiletpprthat is the input16:27
verysoftoiletpprthe output is the one I pasted16:27
jribverysoftoiletppr: so you're choosing to not use virtualenv then and install system-wide using pip?16:31
verysoftoiletpprjrib yes16:31
verysoftoiletpprI don't use python enough to justify the overhead of using virtualenv16:31
jribverysoftoiletppr: so pip claims you already have "sh".  Is that not the case?16:31
verysoftoiletpprjrib yes16:32
verysoftoiletpprthe problem is python is not looking in the right location16:32
verysoftoiletpprI don't know why, neither how to fix16:32
n0sqhas anyone else got this message when logging in?  /msg MemoServ READ NEW16:32
auronandacen0sq: sounds like a question better asking in #freenode16:33
n0sqapparently it's an invalid irc command16:33
n0sqauronandace: thanks16:33
jribverysoftoiletppr: you should be able to "import sh".  Is that right?  What happens when you do: python -c "import sh"?16:34
verysoftoiletpprjrib ImportError: No module named sh16:34
jribverysoftoiletppr: python -c 'import sys; print sys.path'16:35
verysoftoiletpprpip-2.716:35
verysoftoiletpprops16:35
jribverysoftoiletppr: still there?16:41
verysoftoiletppr jrib yes sorry16:41
verysoftoiletpprhttp://hastebin.com/vixavumego16:41
verysoftoiletpprusr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages16:41
verysoftoiletppr /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages16:41
verysoftoiletpprshould be finding the packages16:42
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verysoftoiletpprerr16:43
jribverysoftoiletppr: ?16:43
verysoftoiletpprnothing16:43
jribheh16:43
jribverysoftoiletppr: ls -l /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages16:43
verysoftoiletppr$ ll | grep sh.py16:44
verysoftoiletppr-rw-r-----  1 root staff  60K Jul 13 16:02 sh.py16:44
verysoftoiletppr-rw-r-----  1 root staff  43K Jul 13 16:03 sh.pyc16:44
verysoftoiletpprpermissions?16:44
jribverysoftoiletppr: probably16:44
verysoftoiletpprhttp://hastebin.com/yeqoboraco16:44
verysoftoiletpprcould be my umask?16:45
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jribverysoftoiletppr: possibly16:45
verysoftoiletpprwhat is the default umask?16:45
bekksverysoftoiletppr: 002216:45
verysoftoiletppr002716:45
verysoftoiletpprYahhh16:45
verysoftoiletpprbetter not to mess up with umask16:45
verysoftoiletpprjrib what should be the right permissions for everything in this dir?16:46
jribverysoftoiletppr: staff is a non-standard group on ubuntu afaik.  But just give others read permission on the files that don't have it16:47
verysoftoiletpprjrib problem fixed, thank you very much16:49
jribverysoftoiletppr: no problem16:50
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vltHello. How can I disable kernel messages spit to tty17:15
vlt?17:15
noideasWould someone be able to assist in my understanding of why my drives are not mount correctly at boot?17:15
vltnoideas: I have you17:16
holsteinnoideas: sure.. just explain what you expect for "correctly".. and let me get you the fstab linnk17:16
holstein!fstab | noideas17:16
ubottunoideas: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions17:16
holsteinvlt: why not use another virtual terminal?17:16
vltholstein: such as?17:17
holsteinvlt: any of the other ones.. there are 7 AFAIK17:17
holstein!tty17:17
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution17:17
holsteinvlt: if you dont like that one that is "full", use another one17:18
vltholstein: Ah, now I got you. The messages are getting written to all of them.17:18
holsteinvlt: that is not "normal".. what is getting written?17:18
noideasI used parted on two 3TB mounted fine and running well, but I have missed something on the fstab. I think i might know what it is but not sure here is my fstab http://pastebin.com/WBsLB2ZW17:18
noideasthe 3tb are ext17:19
noideas217:19
vltholstein: kernel messages from failed SATA17:19
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shurtaguldoes anyone know why chromium crashes after several seconds?17:19
vltholstein: I know this is no "normal" situation.17:19
holsteinvlt: i would diagnose the issue..17:19
vltI’m trying to ddrescue a failes drive17:19
vlt*failed17:19
holsteinnoideas: if it were me, i would remove them from fstab, and mount them manually, and test17:19
holsteinvlt: then, after you rescue, you should not see the messages.. i would fix the error instead of disabling the verbosity17:20
noideasi can mount them manually, I would just prefer they mounted every time i restarted the machine17:20
shurtagulcan someone help me with chromium please? :c17:20
vltWhile reading I get literally millions of error lines. Is there any "0" I could echo to /proc/<something> to disable those messages for now?17:21
vltholstein: ^17:21
shivani_HI , I cant seem to log into my ubuntu admin account , accessing it via the guest account now17:21
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holsteinnoideas: so, if they mount manually without issue, then its the meathod that you are automounting i would look at17:21
shivani_can anyone please tell me a fix asap17:21
vlt!root | shivani_17:21
ubottushivani_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo17:21
shivani_ubottu : well I remember the password, it hung and I did a sudo reboot from the rescue terminal17:22
ubottushivani_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:22
shivani_vlt : could you help?17:22
shivani_vlt : I remember the password, it hung and I did a sudo reboot from the rescue terminal after which I havent been able to login17:23
AlexPortablehow do I remove read only from an usb stick?17:23
AlexPortableputting mbr on it again doesn't works because it's read only17:23
AlexPortableit doesn't haves a phyiscal read only switch like sd cards17:23
AlexPortableit's a 32 gb usb stick17:23
AlexPortableusb 3.017:23
blazemore!details | AlexPortable: Are you getting an error of any kind?17:25
ubottuAlexPortable: Are you getting an error of any kind?: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."17:25
shivani_blazemore : could you help with ^^^17:26
shurtagulcan anyone help me :c17:28
shurtagulchromium browser closes after several seconds when starting up17:29
wheatthinshurtagul, have you tried reinstalling chromium?17:30
noideasholstein : thanks for the links17:30
shurtagulwheatthin, yes, ive already reinstalled17:30
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wheatthinshurtagul, try running chromium from the terminal and paste the output17:31
shurtagulchromium-browser: /build/buildd/cairo-1.10.2/src/cairo-surface.c:1287: cairo_surface_set_device_offset: Assertion `status == CAIRO_STATUS_SUCCESS' failed.17:32
shurtagulAborted (core dumped)17:32
AlexPortableblazemore: yes, it says that it's read only17:33
FreeRangeRadicalWhen I startup, I choose Ubuntu in GRUB, then rather than load Ubuntu immediately, it takes 15-20 minutes before the login screen appears.17:35
wheatthinshurtagul, it's a bug in cairo, can you file a bug report?17:35
wheatthin!bug17:36
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.17:36
shurtagulwheatthin, it just closes, it doesnt prompt for a bug report17:36
wheatthinno, read what ubottu said17:37
AlexPortableblazemore: any clue?17:38
pseudonymousI was wondering if someone can help me. I'm about to cancel my server (running Ubuntu) because of a problem I've yet to diagnose. But I'd really *like* for this to be a success story for me rather than coming away with a disgusted feeling17:39
shurtagulI reopened chromium in the menu and it seems like its not going to crash. This is the first time, what is cairo btw17:39
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wheatthin!cairo17:39
FreeRangeRadicalSorry if someone responded to me, I keep getting booted.17:39
wheatthinhmm not listed..  one moment17:39
AlexPortablehow do I remove read only from an usb stick?17:40
FreeRangeRadicalWhen I start my machine, BIOS loads, GRUB loads, then I go from the purple screen to a blank black screen with blinking cursor, login won't appear for 20 minutes or so. What do I do?17:40
wheatthinshurtagul, it's a 2d vector graphics library17:41
blazemore!details | AlexPortable: Are you getting an error of any kind?17:41
ubottuAlexPortable: Are you getting an error of any kind?: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."17:41
blazemoreOh sorry AlexPortable I missed your message above17:42
AlexPortableno I don't get any error17:42
shurtagulwheatthin, ok. do you know if chromium will keep crashing, its working right now.17:42
AlexPortablewhen I want to delete from it, delete button is gone17:42
blazemoreAlexPortable: Where does "it" say it's read-only, and what is giving that error message?17:42
WhisperGreetings all! If anyone has a moment I'd like to ask a few VERY Simple questions.17:42
wheatthinshurtagul, I have no clue..17:42
AlexPortableblazemore: when I try to put new mbr on it in terminal17:43
wheatthinshurtagul, which desktop environment are you using?17:43
shurtagulwheatthin, it crashed :c anyway thanks for your help17:43
shurtagulwheatthin, im using xfce]17:43
AlexPortableand in nautilus when I want to delete or rename or put something on the usb disk it's not working either17:44
AlexPortableno error in nautilus17:45
AlexPortableblazemore:17:45
WhisperI've downloaded a PPA how do I know if its working? How do I create an ISO on a USB and what does17:47
Whisperedit partition bootable checkbox mean?17:47
FreeRangeRadicalWhen I start my machine, BIOS loads, GRUB loads, then I go from the purple screen to a blank black screen with blinking cursor, login won't appear for 20 minutes or so. What do I do?17:47
blue_pearlhi, i have a hdd connected via usb to my computer but Ubuntu 13.04 refuses to mount it , it did not worked graphically so i did sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /home/username/foldername/ but it says mount:/dev/sdb4: can't read superblock the disk is ok i can confirm because if i plug it in Ubuntu 10.0 it opens the drive automatically in gui... it also works fine in Debian 7.0 Can anyone let me know what i am doing wrong?17:48
WhisperIf I install a PPA how do I know its working?  How do I make an .iso on a USB drive? Anyone?17:50
pseudonymouswhere do the upstart messages go ?17:50
AlexPortableanyone?17:51
WhisperI tried creating the .iso on USB using Unetbootin but it says "Finished" although 0 space has been taken up on my USB drive from the Image.17:51
WhisperThe image is 900mb17:51
wilee-nileeWhisper, What PPA? Many ISO loaders.17:51
mrdebhello, can u reinstall grub2 from usb live drive if overwrote17:51
mrdebpls help17:51
Whisperwilee how do I whisper?17:52
WhisperIronic right?17:52
wilee-nileemrdeb, yes17:52
blue_pearlmrdeb, yes u can reinstall grub2 from live cd or usb17:52
mrdebok17:52
mrdebhow17:52
mrdebis there option17:52
pseudonymousCan anyone tell me there upstart logs its messages to ? I'm trying to debug the damnable thing and I'm flying blind :(17:53
blue_pearlmrdeb, u need to punch in different commands let me give u a link17:53
wilee-nileemrdeb, There is a app called bootrepair many use.17:53
SonikkuAmericaWhisper: (There is no such command on Freenode.)17:53
mrdebsupergrubdisk?17:53
mrdebwould that work17:53
wilee-nileemrdeb, you need to give some details really at least for me to feel your are doing something that will work in your setuo confirm the OS's to begin with.17:54
Whisperhow do I whisper? lol17:54
blue_pearlmrdeb, try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing17:54
FreeRangeRadicalWhen I start my machine, BIOS loads, GRUB loads, then I go from the purple screen to a blank black screen with blinking cursor, login won't appear for 20 minutes or so. What do I do? Raring 13.0417:54
wilee-nileewelcome to ignore Whisper17:55
WhisperThe PPA I needed to ask about was one I DL'd from a 3rd party on launchpad.com it was a PPA that turns on the Boost Tech on my onboard Intel HD 3000 graphics card.17:55
blue_pearldo anyone has any help for my problem with external hdd17:55
blue_pearlhi, i have a hdd connected via usb to my computer but Ubuntu 13.04 refuses to mount it , it did not worked graphically so i did sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /home/username/foldername/ but it says mount:/dev/sdb4: can't read superblock the disk is ok i can confirm because if i plug it in Ubuntu 10.0 it opens the drive automatically in gui... it also works fine in Debian 7.0 Can anyone let me know what i am doing wrong?17:56
WhisperAlso when I run UNetbootin as root it sees the first partition on my USB but I don't believe its actually burning the image unless I have a 900mb per sec USB write speed which is impossible.17:56
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CaseyCan someone check my fstab to see what is wrong with my raid1 being mounted? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5871317/17:58
CaseyLast two lines17:58
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WhisperIf no one can help me with UNetbootin being weird, then perhaps I could get some recommendations for GUI based ISO burners on Ubuntu?18:00
WhisperThe command line game is out of my reach at the moment. I have to go buy a book on that.18:00
nathansuchy@Whisper If you have an rooted android tablet use DriveDroid18:01
nathansuchyreinstall ubuntu18:01
nathansuchythen uuse unetbootin18:01
WhisperIts not android tablet.18:01
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Whisper@nathansuchy not reinstalling Ubuntu, I just had everything set the way I liked it, that took LONG enough.18:01
pseudonymoussurely *someone* knows how to coax some output out of upstart ?? I can't be the only person who finds it interesting to know what happens when services start/stop ???18:02
Whisper@nathansuchy if there are other ISO image burning GUI programs out there besides Unetbootin I'd give those a try.18:02
WhisperThe problem arises when the NORMAL EASY way to burn .iso in Ubuntu stops working. I can easily burn an ISO to a DVD in Ubuntu, the issue no option for USB in the dropdown.18:03
Caseywhisper:Furius ISO Mount18:03
Whisper@Casey Thank you. brb.18:03
trismpseudonymous: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#debugging unless you mean output from individual jobs, which is logged to /var/log/upstart/jobname.log if enabled18:04
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intraderHi, all; My ubuntu 12.04 overheats my laptop - discovered that plugin-container uses more than 60% CPU. How do I discover its PID and run a chron to kill it?18:05
Whisper@Casey Is the Furious ISO Mount program something that should show up in Synaptic Package Manager?18:05
Midnightmythanyone with experience with a cubieboard?18:06
blue_pearlanyone knows any workaround for bug #117392518:06
ubottubug 1173925 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 13.04 - USB external Hard disk (NTFS) not mounting" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117392518:06
FreeRangeRadicalWhen I start my machine, BIOS loads, GRUB loads, then I go from the purple screen to a blank black screen with blinking cursor, login won't appear for 20 minutes or so. What do I do?18:06
Caseywhisper: which version you running?18:06
trismpseudonymous: although there is also upstart-monitor18:06
Whisper@Casey This is Ubuntu 13.04 -raring I believe.18:06
WhisperCasey : x6418:07
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WhisperCasey: My SPM is 0.08~exp2raring118:08
Caseywhisper: not 100% sure if its 13.04 compatible, here is the manufacture link:  https://launchpad.net/furiusisomount18:08
pseudonymoustrism: thanks, I'll have a look18:09
Whispercasey: Thanks I'll go give it a shot, I'm about to give up on this, I have a 2,500 page paper due soon and I need to get crackin.18:09
Caseywhisper: I understand.18:09
gopi#ceglug18:10
wilee-nileeFreeRangeRadical, When you see grub hit e and remove the splash notation to get a text boot see whats going on.18:10
wilee-nileemight be no splash18:10
FreeRangeRadicaldo I edit that in gedit?18:11
wilee-nileeFreeRangeRadical, Are you seeing the grub menu at boot if not start tapping the shift at powering on.18:11
wilee-nileeFreeRangeRadical, NO boot but powering on my mistake.18:12
wilee-nileenot*18:12
FreeRangeRadicali had to install grub from disc18:12
wilee-nileeFreeRangeRadical, Sure, however are you seeing the grub menu when you power on?18:12
FreeRangeRadicalso, restart, tap shift at power on to get...what?18:13
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FreeRangeRadicalat power on, i see the bios, then grub18:13
wilee-nileeFreeRangeRadical, The grub menu, the hit e for edit, then using the arrow keys go to the no splash and remove it.18:13
FreeRangeRadicaland then?18:14
wilee-nileeFreeRangeRadical, WE WANT THE GRUB MENU CAN YOU GET THERE?18:14
wilee-nileelol sorry for yelling18:14
FreeRangeRadicalyes, if i leave here, power down, restart, then i can get to the grub menu18:14
wilee-nileeFreeRangeRadical, At the grub menu hit e this is an edit, then using the arrow keys go to the no splash and remove it, this will give you a text boot to see where the start is getting stuck.18:15
FreeRangeRadicaland then come back here and report what i see?18:16
mamedhello guys . ubuntu 12.04 32 bit with asus m51dr laptop hd sound problem with my speakers18:16
wilee-nileeFreeRangeRadical, Yep18:16
FreeRangeRadicalok18:16
FreeRangeRadicalthx18:16
goshecahi18:17
mamedhello guys . ubuntu 12.04 32 bit with asus m51dr laptop hd sound problem with my speakers . how can i set the spearker to digital output. when i turn up the volume the sound becomes worse . all i want to hear good quality from my speakers18:17
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wilee-nileemamed, Are the speaker of a good quality?18:18
wilee-nileeplural speakers18:19
mamedwilee-nilee, i typed fast so it is possible for me to make some grammatical mistakes18:19
wilee-nileemy grammatical mistake18:19
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mameddont even .18:20
mamedcan you help me?18:20
mamedi was able to hear hd sounds from my speakers in ubuntu 11.0418:20
WhisperCasey: I have FuriousISO installed, however I don't see a way to direct it towards a USB18:20
wilee-nileemamed, I don't know, I asked a question and you have not answered it. I'm right now trying to determine if what you want is a dream or a reality. ;)18:21
mamedboth:D18:21
wilee-nileelol18:21
WhisperCasey: It allows me to mount the image only, I don't think its mounting it where I need it and I don't think mounting it in Ubuntu is going to help me on REboot lol18:21
wilee-nileemamed, this area is not my strong point so, I suspect others will be more helpful.18:22
mirakhello18:22
mamedwilee-nilee, ok.18:22
mirakanyone have experience with USB ACM device18:22
mirak?18:22
mamedguys i am able to hears hd quality sound from my earphones but my speakers they are analog . how can i set them as digital output.18:23
CaseyWhisper: Sorry, I did not see where you were having issues burning to USB, I only saw where you were having issues with burning an ISO "If no one can help me with UNetbootin being weird, then perhaps I could get some recommendations for GUI based ISO burners on Ubuntu?" and "@nathansuchy if there are other ISO image burning GUI programs out there besides Unetbootin I'd give those a try."18:23
CaseyI was pulling info for that burner when you stated USB, sorry.18:23
wilee-nilee!anyone > mirak18:23
ubottumirak, please see my private message18:23
wilee-nilee!details > mirak18:24
CaseyCan someone check my fstab to see what is wrong with my raid1 being mounted? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5871317/18:24
CaseyLast two lines18:24
mirakwilee-nilee, that doesn't help18:24
wilee-nilee!attitude | mirak18:25
ubottumirak: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines18:25
WhisperCasey: No worries. UNetbootin must be run as root. Close it, and re-run using either:18:25
Whispersudo /usr/bin/unetbootin18:25
Whisperor:18:25
Whispersu - -c '/usr/bin/unetbootin'18:25
mirakI have a device that id detected as USB ACM device.18:25
wilee-nileemirak, If you want help you have to follow the channel norms of which details and not asking anyone or part of.18:25
sdfgamazin ubuntu can lock you up when the disk is full18:25
mirakI don't know that, if you know that maybe you can explain a bit18:25
WhisperCasey: I type that in, and it runs, then when I select /dev/sdb1  it finishes far to quickly.18:25
CaseyWhisper: I have no experience with unebtoonin so I wouldn't know where to direct you on that :-/18:26
sdfghow 's that even possible for an OS to do that18:26
mirakwilee-nilee, help me acces the memory of my JammanSolo18:26
mirakthat's the question18:26
mirakI don't believe that's a better question18:26
WhisperCasey: Heres a better question then, do I even need to burn the .iso image to the USB? or can I just copy n paste it? lol18:26
raven_can anyone help me transfer files from my ubuntu lapttop to my windows 8 pc?18:26
CaseyWhisper: I am working on 6 other windows machines right now so if I get a chance to catch a break, I'll do some reasearch for ya.18:26
Whisperraven_: Step 1:: Copy everything OFF a USB drive.18:27
CaseyWhisper: I'm no expert in Linux/Ubuntu, however in the windows world, you have to have two programs (or one that can do both) to do what you want.18:27
Whisperraven_: Step 2:: Format the USB drive as NTFS18:27
Whisperraven_:: Step3:: Copy the files from windows onto the newly formated NTFS USB.18:28
Caseywhisper: one has to format the drive so that it will be reconnized as a bootable USB and the other is to actually burn the ISO18:28
sdfgmy hd is full and ubuntu now lock it up i have to use the recovery mode to access to the command prompt  .18:28
Whisperraven_:: Step4:: Boot up Ubuntu, it will recognize that file system NTFS and all the files it can. Then copy them into your Ubuntu file system/OS.18:28
Caseywhisper: also check your bios settings/manual to see if you can boot off of USB drives.18:28
wilee-nileemirak, A guitar effect, nice I'm a pro musician myself, however that may be a tough one, I see no reference on the web with ubuntu and it, besides here you might also try ##linux you have to be registered for that channel is all.18:28
sdfghow can i delete files when i cant access to desktop folder and etc18:29
nick__hi, im having a problem when loading steam under wheezy, where is the best place to ask the question? its not from valve but from Ghost squad 5718:29
wilee-nileesdfg, Chroot from a live cd18:29
mirakwilee-nilee, yep that's why I asked directly about technicality, because i googled a bit, and needed some direction18:29
wilee-nileesdfg, Or maybe just access depends on what you want to remove.18:29
is_nullhi all, how to make unity maximize windows by default ?18:29
nick__anyone had issues trying to run team fortress2 from debain wheezy 64bt?18:29
WhisperRaven_:: Actually I misread your question. REVERSE the steps.18:30
WhisperRaven_:: Just make sure your USB file format is NTFS and Windows 8 / Ubuntu should be able to transfer via a USB.18:30
wilee-nileemirak, Cool, it just helps to have the device exactly, its not easy for either of us always.18:30
wilee-nileenick__, THis debian?18:31
sdfgwilee , problem is in /home/user/ folder there are only 2 files one is access-your-private-data.desktop and readme.txt18:31
sdfghow can i get into the download folder ?18:31
nick__wilee-nilee: Debian Wheezy18:31
wilee-nileenick__, #debian18:32
sdfgi believe the folder is encrypted to decrypt it required extra space as now my hd is full18:32
mirakwilee-nilee, you see me ?18:32
miraksorry18:32
nick__wilee-nilee: isnt debain / ubuntu the same thing ? essentially?18:32
mirakwrong channel18:32
nick__arg debian**18:32
gopinutakkiHie, One of the wireless networks in greyed out. Its a public wifi network at a park in my town.18:32
wilee-nileenick__, To some extent yes, but ubuntu is only supported here, channel rules is all, ;)18:33
nick__no probs thanks for your time18:33
wilee-nileesdfg, encrypted I have no idea18:33
wilee-nileemirak, Yes I se your posts, I would not know how to get that effect to work in general, Does it have a usb port?18:34
mirakyes18:35
mirakit's just a loop pedal18:35
miraki want to acces the stored loops18:35
wilee-nileemirak, If you run lsusb in ubuntu does it show in the list?18:35
mirakwilee-nilee, yes18:35
mirakBus 002 Device 004: ID 1210:0020 DigiTech18:35
wilee-nileemirak, Cool, that is good, have you looked if it is in the left side menu in home?18:36
Nmbr1sdfg: you have your home directory encrypted - give me second i will find the directions again18:36
mirak"The CDC ACM + MS driver is a USB composite gadget driver which implements the serial communication and mass storage functions. This allows the device to be registered on a host computer as a seral port (e.g. /dev/ttyACM0 or COM1:) and as a USB thumb drive (e.g. /dev/sdf or E:). The composite driver allows for simultaneous use of the serial and mass storage functions. "18:36
mirakok, that's less worse than I expected18:36
mirakthough I don't see the UMS device yet18:37
Nmbr1sdfg: take a look at http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/18:37
mirakmaybe there is something to enable on the pedal, i will check the manual18:37
Nmbr1sdfg: you will need a bootdisk and know your encryption passphrase (not your user password, the passphrase randomly generated when you first logged into Ubuntu)18:38
lauratikaevery time i change accounts or restart pc i get a black line on the top corner of the display, only way to changing it back to normal is opening display-->then changing resolution and keep configuration. any idea what is the issue?18:38
zoraelIs 'sans' or 'sans-serif' the real/preferred alias?18:38
ravenhi18:38
wilee-nileemirak, I'm looking at a youtube on it and even in windows you need a script to access it, you may have seen this already not sure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOW5VLu8oYQ18:38
Nmbr1sdfg: if you don't have that passphrase you are hosed and to my knowledge there is not another method of accessing your home directory18:39
ravenany tool to "convert" atom, rss, and other feeds to e-mail?18:39
wilee-nileemirak, Just info here to get a orientation of general use.18:39
mirakwilee-nilee, no not yet. There is a digitech software for windows to acces it.18:39
mamedno sound from my speakers now18:40
Nmbr1sdfg: the nerdier fewer picture version of instructions are at http://hype-free.blogspot.com/2011/04/recovering-encrypted-home-directory.html18:40
wilee-nileemirak, I think it is accessible, it is just finding the right voodoo to doooooo. ;)18:40
mirakwilee-nilee, yes, it's really less difficult than I started to believe at some point18:40
wilee-nileemirak, THere is a open source musician channel let me see if I can find it.18:41
wilee-nileemirak, #opensourcemusicians18:42
wilee-nileegood channel in general18:42
hanthanai have ubuntu 12.04.1LTS server. I need to upgrade git on this server from 1.7.9.5 to 1.7.1018:44
fwaokdai was running a process in terminal and I tried CTRL+C'ing out of it but it didn't respond to that... what else can i do to kill it?18:44
fosstererfwaokda: Try pressing Close button18:45
hanthanai tried with both apt-get update and apt-get upgrade but no luck18:45
fwaokdafossterer, i've done that before and then had to restart whole machine because it hadn't really stopped18:45
wilee-nileefwaokda, try killall "the thang" from another terminal18:45
DoverMofwaokda, "ps -x" "sudo kill -9 [number]18:46
wilee-nilee^^^^^^^^^^^ that to18:46
wilee-nileehtop can kill as well18:46
Nmbr1sdfg: any luck?18:47
fwaokdaDoverMo, thanks!18:47
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Midnightmythanyone with experience with a cubieboard?18:49
lauratikasorry got disconected18:52
SP33Di have always in auth log "Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /root" but i expected nothing like that and did all standart  checks the root dir is owned by root:root and has mode 700 and the .ssh is 700 and .ssh/key* is 600 like its writen in some blogs18:53
SP33Dwhat else can i do18:53
green_ubuntu 12.04 1920x1080 works fine on install but after updates 1920x1080 screen rolls any way to fix this?18:55
zipySP33D, u cannot access root without root previleges18:56
zipyeither u enter with sudo18:56
zipyor u change to root18:56
zipyuser18:56
SP33Dya and sshd runs under user root18:56
SP33Di am loging in with root user18:56
SP33Dthat is all right18:56
SP33Di login via ssh as user root ^^18:56
zipydo u have an user with sudo?18:56
Nmbr1SP33D: you should not ssh into your machine as the root user18:56
zipyexcept root18:56
zipyye18:57
SP33Dnope don't got sudo running at present18:57
Nmbr1i would login using a regular user and then su or sudo18:57
SP33Dthats a later task18:57
SP33Dfor some rainy days18:57
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zipyhow did u install ubuntu without creating a user?18:57
Nmbr1my suggestion is make it a now task and setup ssl certificate authentication while you are there18:57
cherubinoHolaaaa a Todossss!!!!!18:58
cherubinohi18:58
cherubinohelp18:58
mirakwilee-nilee, what script where you talking about ?18:58
DoverMogreen_, maybe this might help? i dunno, http://askubuntu.com/questions/206967/why-isnt-grub2-using-custom-resolution18:58
cherubino librerie libssl su ubuntu 13.0418:58
chxanehello, is there a way to ignore debug messages from a process you have running in the background (by passing & in bash on ubuntu)? Or is this more for another chatroom's question?18:59
strangechxane: >> /dev/null18:59
chxanestrange, ty19:00
strangenp19:00
SP33Dany ideas how i can solve that?19:00
Nmbr1chxane: you can also do script.sh 2>/dev/null19:00
Nmbr1with script.sh being your command19:01
Nmbr1chxane: they both tell the interpreter that on error send the output to the null device19:01
chxanethe script is a python script actually19:02
strangedoesnt matter19:02
chxaneand >> /dev/null isn't working19:02
green_ubuntu 12.04 1920x1080 works fine on install but after updates 1920x1080 screen rolls any way to fix this?19:02
strange2>/dev/null19:02
strangewill work19:02
Nmbr1chxane: try the one i sent 2>/dev/null19:02
chxaneyeah that works thank you19:03
Nmbr1np19:03
zipygreen_, was there a kernel update within?19:04
wilee-nileechxane, If ubuntu this is the place details of the process...etc will probably help, I'm just passing this on is all.19:04
green_zipy yes19:05
green_i know thats whats breaking it19:05
zipygreen, u probably need to reeinstall ur gpu drivers if u had some19:06
zipyhappens sometimes on kernel update19:06
green_i reinstalled the i915 last night19:06
bekkszipy: Only happens when not using drivers from the official repos.19:07
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green_i have my Xorg 0.log file in pastebin19:08
sdfgthanks Nmbr119:09
sdfgi'm haing problme deleting files19:09
sdfgmy hd is full19:09
green_<<<< frustrated ripping out my final few hairs19:09
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bekkssdfg: Which error do you get exactly?19:10
sdfgcan't access to encrypted folder to do the delete as no room to decrypt it19:10
zipygreen_, r u using 12.04 lts?19:10
bekkssdfg: The content of the encrypted folder isnt the problem.19:10
FreeRangeRadicalwilee-nilee  ok, i removed quiet splash from grub and i'm back. what now?19:11
sdfgbekks , how to i access to the encrypted home folder to do the delete ?19:11
wilee-nileeFreeRangeRadical, Did you see a text boot, I gave you this task for the channel to have details , not necessarily for my help.19:12
bekkssdfg: You dont need that - you need to free up space on the unencrypted part of your system.19:12
wilee-nileeFreeRangeRadical, we all have different skills is all.19:13
FreeRangeRadicalwilee-nilee  i have no idea what that meant19:13
FreeRangeRadicalwhat are you talking about?19:13
wilee-nileeFreeRangeRadical, what did you see when you removed the splash and booted?19:13
sdfgbekks which folder do you think i can go to do delete ?19:13
bekkssdfg: you cant delete a random folder. You have to look up which contents use much space.19:14
wilee-nileeFreeRangeRadical, Do you have any experience with linux?19:14
FreeRangeRadicalwilee-nilee  it did the same thing it's been doing. 20 minutes from bios to login screen19:14
sdfgall user data is in home folder19:14
FreeRangeRadicalWHAT?19:14
FreeRangeRadicalare you intentionally being rude?19:14
FreeRangeRadicalI've been using ubuntu since 10.0419:15
DoverMoFreeRangeRadical, this channel is not to discuss ethics19:15
wilee-nileeFreeRangeRadical, No just trying to get to the gist, we are not communicating, with basic stuff.;)19:15
sdfgthose that can be deleted is in home folder i dont think there anything can be deleted outside home folder19:15
FreeRangeRadicaldovermo, it's not i who is having the ethics problem, but thanks anyway19:15
DoverMoFreeRangeRadical, "<FreeRangeRadical> are you intentionally being rude?" that's not needed19:15
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FreeRangeRadicalwilee-nilee  i have a masters in english, i can communicate if you're clear in your intent19:15
green_zipy yes 12.0419:16
FreeRangeRadicalthen your comment wasn't needed either, dovermo19:16
wilee-nilee!attitude | FreeRangeRadical19:16
ubottuFreeRangeRadical: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines19:16
wilee-nileedon't be a projecting fool19:16
CaseyCan someone check my fstab to see what is wrong with my raid1 being mounted? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5871317/19:16
DoverMoFreeRangeRadical, actually it was19:16
CaseyLast two lines19:16
sdfgubuntu has a deadly bug19:17
FreeRangeRadicalOK, so now that you've made your point, can i get some help?19:17
sdfgencrypted home folder plus a full disk will locked up your system19:17
clue_hsdfg how so19:17
Jordan_UFreeRangeRadical: What did you see at boot after removing "quiet splash"?19:17
otaksudo apt-get autoclean will usually clear some space19:18
sdfgyou can't access to the system as the login system will fail19:18
gordonjcpsdfg: Don't Do That, Then19:18
gordonjcpsdfg: encrypted home directory is a stupid idea19:18
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clue_hexternal drive for files19:18
intraderHi, all; My ubuntu 12.04 overheats my laptop - discovered that plugin-container uses more than 60% CPU. How do I discover its PID and run a chron to kill it?19:18
FreeRangeRadicaljordan u  as i said, when i removed quiet splash, and hit f10, it did the same as before. it took 20 minutes from grub to login screen after 5 minutes or so of blank black screen19:19
clue_hintrader, system monitor or from the terminal, i think ps ax, then kill -9 PID19:19
gordonjcpintrader: it's run by firefox19:19
gordonjcpintrader: killing firefox *should* kill it19:19
Jordan_UFreeRangeRadical: OK. So there you've said that you see 5 minutes of blank screen, what do you see for the other 15 minutes?19:20
FreeRangeRadicalthe purple ubuntu screen19:20
cherubinoHolaaaa a Todossss!!!!!19:20
cherubinoWould howdy need of a help was I starting a shell from ubuntu 13.04 and from a mistake do these bookshops lack libssl how I can remedy?19:20
FreeRangeRadicalin about 15 minutes after the grub, the cursor finally appears. 5 minutes of the cursor on the purple ubuntu screen, then the login screen appears.19:20
Jordan_Uintrader: Are you saying that your laptop overheats and the hardware forces a shutdown, or does it just get too hot for your comfort?19:21
intradergordonjcp, thanks; it is spawned by firefox on account of adobe flash. I don't want to have those flash session active - they are usually adverts19:21
cherubino Would howdy need of a help was I starting a shell from ubuntu 13.04 and from a mistake do these bookshops lack libssl how I can remedy?19:22
Jordan_UFreeRangeRadical: OK. So you see the grub menu, then a black screen for 15 minutes, then 5 minutes of the cursor on a purple ubuntu screen, then the login prompt. Correct?19:22
intraderJordan_U, it does shutdown when temparature gets over 94C19:22
gordonjcpintrader: try installing adblock?19:22
FreeRangeRadicaljordan u  that's correct. the login screen with the login prompt.19:22
moesI just did an install from a live cd.12.04-32bit.. kernel 32.0.0-23.. gnome 3.4.1..What is the command for upgrading my system19:23
bekkssdfg: If you have too less space for decrypting your home folder, you are lacking space outside the encrypted home folder obviously.19:23
Jordan_Uintrader: No amount of CPU usage should cause a laptop to overheat to the extent that it shuts itself off. If that's happeneing then you most likely have a hardware problem. Possibly the fans are not functioning or are being blocked by collected dust.19:23
bekkssdfg: So did you check where (outside) your space is actually wasted?19:23
wilee-nileemoes, To what, and have you run a update upgrade within the install?19:23
intradergordonjcp, what is adblock?19:23
moesI am tryin to get the latest 12.04 and kernel etc19:24
intraderJordan_U, it has been doing this since I upgraded to 12.04. Had no problem on 10.4. It seems CPU or GPU problem19:25
wilee-nileemoes, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:25
otakhey won't dist-upgrade move away from 12.04 ?19:25
wilee-nileeotak, No.19:25
intraderJordan_U, the fans seem to be active as shown by psensor, but I don't hear a fan19:26
reactor16hi all19:26
moeswilee-nilee, Thanks will do!!!19:26
gordonjcpintrader: it's a browser plugin, that blocks adverts19:26
checoimgWho here has Hibernation working out of the box  ? I would like to know what computer it works on.19:26
checoimgThank you19:26
reactor16what is best gui lite for ubuntu (i'm running vps)?19:26
wilee-nileeotak, dist-upgrade is for held stuff like kernels...etc19:26
Jordan_Uotak: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is only different from "sudo apt-get upgrade" in that it will install or remove new packages if needed because of dependency problems (this should not happen normally, but might if you install ppas or other third party repositories, or use a development version of Ubuntu). To upgrade from one release of Ubuntu to another see the information that ubottu is about to give you.19:27
Jordan_U!upgrade | otak19:27
ubottuotak: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade19:27
intradergordonjcp, I will install it. too many subwindows running flash or other videos19:27
Jordan_U!hcl | checoimg19:28
ubottuchecoimg: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection19:28
otakwilee-nilee: thanks folks19:28
wilee-nilee+1 on Jordan_U's description.19:28
Jordan_Uintrader: I don't doubt that there is a problem with how much CPU is being used, but I consider the fact that any amount of CPU/GPU usage can overheat your machine a bigger problem.19:28
checoimgJordan_U : Thanks19:28
Jordan_Uchecoimg: You're welcome.19:28
intraderJordan_U, I don't quite get is as the same load of firefox tabs do not overheat the laptop when runinng under XP. I suspect the display driver19:29
lonewulf85any recommends on connecting Ubuntu 12.04 to Android 4.2.x?19:30
Jordan_UFreeRangeRadical: Please install bootchart and post a link to the image it creates: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootCharting19:30
gordonjcpintrader: you want it19:31
gordonjcpintrader: you really do19:31
FreeRangeRadicaljordan u   OK19:31
checoimgJordan_U : I'm using my own kernel but I will file the bug with a Ubuntu kernel19:31
intradergordonjcp, I will install it - adblock your say?19:31
ravenany tool to "convert" atom, rss, and other feeds to e-mail?19:31
knightAndrobideHey19:31
gordonjcpintrader: yup19:31
gordonjcpintrader: adblock plus, these days19:32
knightAndrobideHow to change tty reso to 1080p?19:32
sdfgbekks , does ubuntu decrypt home folder to other folder during normal operation ?19:32
intradergordonjcp, thanks19:32
otakis noscript still recommended?19:32
Jordan_UFreeRangeRadical: You're welcome. Please use my full nick (Jordan_U) in your messages or I might miss them. You can save some time by typing just "jor" and pressing tab until it completes to "Jordan_U".19:32
wilee-nileeotak, I use it.19:32
otakme too but I also use apt-get upgrade :-)19:33
Jordan_Usdfg: What do you mean by "decrypt home folder to another folder"?19:33
pawsso if I forward the DNS records to my webhosting they should also be allowed to use my MX records right?19:34
Wh1plashHas anyone setup a VPN on their ubuntu box to connect their phones, tablets, laptops to etc while away from home/coffee shops etc? Anything you guys recommend?19:34
sdfgJordan , what i mean is that if i want to decrypt home folder i need to extra space for doing that but does this ubuntu decrypt home folder to some area during normal operation19:35
RalliasIn lxterminal, how do I pass an F10 to the program?19:36
intradergordonjcp, I have installed it - any setting?19:36
bekkssdfg: Did you check whats wasting space outside your home folder?19:36
RalliasNever mind, clicking works in htop19:37
Jordan_Usdfg: Ecryptfs doesn't copy all your data at any point, in fact there is no copying involved at all. Files are decrypted on the fly and only the encrypted contents are ever stored on disk.19:38
mattyI need major help, using ubuntu 13.04 I tried to install RSTudio and ended up deleting cinnemon and grub19:38
mattyI do not know how to get to terminal and getting on firefox was very difficult19:39
mattycinnamon* the bottom taskbar is also gone19:40
Jordan_Umatty: You can probably just choose the "Ubuntu" or "GNOME" sessions at the login screen.19:40
mattyjordan_U: I did that all that I got was a grey task bar19:41
Jordan_Umatty: How did you "delete" cinimon and grub?19:41
mattyjordan_U: Well I think grub still exisits because when I restarted my computer I was given the option to dual boot. I was on the terminal and installing RStudio and it was removing cinnamon19:42
Marikawnhello, I need help with the apt-get upgrade function19:42
sdfgso who got solution for this problem19:42
Jordan_U!details | Marikawn19:42
ubottuMarikawn: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."19:42
bekkssdfg: Answer my question please. I asked you two times now at least.19:42
MarikawnIt seems that I didn't uninstall snort correctly and now my system is hanging up on this19:42
MarikawnSure.. one sec19:43
sdfgbekks , i can't find anyting19:43
bekkssdfg: How did you search?19:43
MarikawnThis is the output:19:43
Marikawnroot@bt:/usr/bin# apt-get upgrade19:43
MarikawnReading package lists... Done19:43
MarikawnBuilding dependency tree19:43
MarikawnReading state information... Done19:43
MarikawnThe following packages have been kept back:19:43
FloodBot1Marikawn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:43
Jordan_U!pastebin | Marikawn19:43
ubottuMarikawn: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:43
sdfgbekks , disk analyser19:44
MarikawnHere's the link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872018/19:44
Jordan_UMarikawn: Please pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a".19:45
bekkssdfg: I'd use "du" and at first glance, you can delete the apt package cache.19:45
mattyjordan_U:  any idea of how to get terminal without the keyboard shortcut?19:45
Jordan_Umatty: ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a terminal (ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to X), then run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" to be sure that you have all of the packages included in a default install of Ubuntu.19:46
Marikawncant' run lsb release -a19:47
Jordan_UMarikawn: Why not?19:47
MarikawnIt's not recognized19:47
MarikawnI tried apt-get install lsb but it still didn't install the lsb command.. don't know19:47
Jordan_UMarikawn: Note that it's "lsb_release -a" (with an underscore) *not* "lsb release -a".19:47
Marikawnohh, that may be why19:48
Marikawnhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5872029/19:48
MkeerHi, I only have 2gb of ram and when I start a certain program (a python script which takes a bunch of memory), all my chrome tabs crash...  without chrome running, the python script leaves me with several hundred MB of RAM19:48
MkeerI feel like Ubuntu doesn't manage the memory allocation very well19:49
bekksMkeer: It does the same memory management as every other linux - you just have too less RAM for doing what you want.19:49
MarikawnI've tried apt-get autoclean & apt-get clean && apt-get purge19:49
Mkeerbekks, Windows 7 let me run both with no problem19:50
bekksMkeer: Windows has a different memory management and a totally different swap usage model.19:50
bekksMkeer: And Windows 7 is irrelevant in here ;)19:50
Jordan_UMkeer: Do you have a swap file/partition?19:51
clue_hMkeer, and it depends what the script is doing and if it is well written19:51
Jordan_UMarikawn: Is this a Desktop or a server?19:52
CaseyHello, I need help with fstab. Trying to get my raid1 to mount durring bootup. Can someone check it out and make sure I make the correct input. Last two lines are the raid http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872046/19:52
MarikawnDesktop19:52
cat_fiveokay i've got a good one for you. pretty sure i'm going to have to nuke this instance, but want to see if there's any last minute ideas19:52
cat_fiveclient tried to install his own SSL cert and ended up chown'ing /etc to www-data19:53
zipyMkeer, maybe ur swap is full aswell19:53
ravenany tool to "convert" atom, rss, and other feeds to e-mail?19:53
cat_fivethis is an AWS instance, so no root access, just ubuntu with sudo privileges.19:53
bekksCasey: The last line is wrong. You need to specify the mountpoint, filesystem, and the options - just like in the lines before.19:53
Mkeerzipy, swap is at 478MB/1.1GB right now19:53
cat_fiveobviously, though, sudoers is in /etc, so...19:53
MarikawnThanks for your help btw19:54
bekksCasey: sudo IS root access.19:54
Jordan_UMarikawn: Ubuntu 10.04 is no longer supported on the Desktop (only server packages are supported). So I you really need to upgrade to at least Ubuntu 12.04 (which you can do directly).19:54
Marikawncool deal, i'll do that19:54
cat_fivebekks: not if the sudoers file can't be read19:54
Caseybekks: can you show me an example of what the last line should look like? and what do you mean by "sudo IS root access"?19:54
MarikawnThank you19:54
cat_fiveCasey: bekks meant that for me19:55
bekkscat_five: Then you dint have sudo access.19:55
zipyMkeer, and ur chrome chrashes even if ur swap is only half in use?19:55
Caseycat_five: ohh, ha19:55
bekkscat_five: you can find examples in line 10 and 12 of your paste.19:55
guntbert!u | zipy19:55
ubottuzipy: U is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' nor 'Ur' are words in the English language. Neither are 'R', 'Y', 'l8', 'ryt',  'Ne1' nor 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information.19:55
fulcanI did an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.10 and now my boot hangs. I tried booting to recovery mode. the best I can do is get to the recovery mode screen. no traceable error (last 100 lines of message) http://sprunge.us/ARKQ .  I am booted to a rescue disk and chrooted to the os now.19:55
cat_fivebekks: user `ubuntu` had sudo access, but my client used it to change the permissions of all of /etc19:55
Jordan_UMarikawn: We still need to fix your dpkg problems before you can upgrade (unless you fresh install), but we can do so by simply removing snort.19:55
bekkscat_five: So you need to restore a recent backup now.19:56
zipyguntbert, -.-19:56
wilee-nileeMkeer, You can adjust the swappiness to get the most out if the ram basically before swapping.19:56
cat_fiveyeah that's what i thought. i'll just migrate to a new instance19:56
shahbazregister19:56
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guntbert!11.10 | fulcan19:56
ubottufulcan: Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) was the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on May 9, 2013. See !upgrade, !lts and !eol for more details.19:56
clue_h!lts19:57
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)19:57
fulcanubottu that's what do-release-upgrade fed me19:57
ubottufulcan: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:57
wilee-nileefulcan, 12.04 is where desktop releases are supported as of now, you may want to do a install.19:57
zipy!r19:57
guntbert!askthebot | clue_h19:58
ubottuclue_h: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".19:58
fulcanguntbert that's what do-release-upgrade fed me19:58
clue_h!askthebot | guntbert19:58
ubottuguntbert: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".19:58
zipyhaha19:58
Jordan_Ufulcan: It will probably be much easier to just install 12.04 rather than trying to upgrade. Is there any reason you don't want to do that?19:58
guntbertfulcan: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:59
wilee-nileefulcan, You started this from a end of life, there is a terminal upgrade needed not a gui, but eol's are not supported.19:59
fulcanJordan_U the applications/services installed cannot be deleted.19:59
Jordan_Ufulcan: What applications/services? If they are custom software then they probably won't work with a supported release anyway (without being updated) and if they are not custom software, you should be able to just install them again.20:00
fulcanJordan_U custom code hooked into apache.20:00
fulcanJordan_U configs everywhere on the system20:01
fulcanit's getting upgraded, not deleted.20:01
Jordan_Ufulcan: So you have a custom configuration that isn't fully documented and that you don't fully understand?20:02
fulcanJordan_U they will NEVER successfully copy to a clean/new drive20:02
Jordan_Ufulcan: Please answer my question.20:03
fulcanJordan_U dude, how many times do I have to repeat myself.20:04
PeyamHow do I show the GPU's temperature in conky? using AMD radeon hd. Im using ${font StyleBats:size=14}A${font}   Temp CPU3:${alignr}${execi 120 sensors | grep 'Core 2' | awk '{print $3}' | cut -c2-3}°C20:04
Peyamsorry20:04
PeyamHow do I show the GPU's temperature in conky? using AMD radeon hd. Im using Temp GPU:${alignr}${execi 120 sensors | grep 'temp1' | awk '{print $3}' | cut -c2-3}°C20:04
Casey bekks: would just duplicating what is in line 10 to line 14 (except for duplicating the UUID) work?20:05
Casey http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872046/20:05
elijah|otlHey guys, I am running nvidia drivers on 13.04, I cannot change my laptop to any resolution other than 1920x1080, the other options don't exist. I am trying to connect to a projector at a Drupal Camp. Any ideas?20:05
CaseySorry if I double posted, just got disconnected.20:05
bekksCasey: No. You have to modify the mountpoint too, at least. And you may have to adjust the options, too.20:05
Jordan_Ufulcan: I'm asking a reasonable question for clarification. Please answer it so that I can try to help you.20:05
Caseybekks: looking at line 10 is the mount point the "/"?20:06
Caseyafter the UUID20:06
fulcanJordan_U the services are not documents and all over the system20:06
bekksCasey: Yes.20:06
fulcannot documented20:06
Caseybekks: thank. I'll modify and try again.20:07
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fulcanall custom code, 4 yrs old++20:07
lolcatHow can I trim ALL of my SSD?20:07
wheatthintrim? like adding stickers? LOL20:08
Jordan_Ufulcan: Then I think you have very little chance of getting them working again with a supported verison of Ubuntu. That may not be what you want to hear, but it's likely unavoidable. If you want to get this system running again you're probably ging to have to do a lot of work figuring out how all of this was configured, and probably also update some of the custom code.20:08
Jordan_Ulolcat: You want to lose all of the data on the drive permanently?20:09
fulcanJordan_U that's why I am trying to upgrade.20:09
ravenany tool to "convert" atom, rss, and other feeds to e-mail?20:09
lolcatJordan_U: I want to make the wear leveling work20:10
Jordan_Ufulcan: Upgrading isn't magic. I expect that your custom code will need to be updated to work with a newer version of Apache, at least.20:10
lolcatI never used trim before20:11
fulcanJordan_U yup, the nightmare begines.20:11
lolcatnow I started using it20:11
Jordan_Ulolcat: If you want to trim all of the free space on a given filesystem, allowing the drive to know that those bits can be discarded, run "sudo fstrim /mountpoint/" where /mountpoint/ is the mountpoint of the filesystem you want to trim.20:13
GenyarHey, which companies make the best internal hard drives?20:13
ActionParsnipraven: http://www.allthingsrss.com/rss2email/20:13
Jordan_UGenyar: That's more of a question for ##hardware (and is also somewhat subjective).20:13
ActionParsnipgenyar: that is an opinion. none are best20:14
Genyarok, I'll go to hardware20:14
ActionParsnipgenyar: if one was best. nobody would by any other drive20:14
Genyar#hardware20:14
ActionParsnipgenyar: think about it.....its preposterous20:14
GenyarHow do I get to hardware?20:14
GenyarI tired typing #hardware but it didn't work20:15
Jordan_UGenyar: Type "/join ##hardware" (without the quotes)20:15
ActionParsnipgenyar: type: /join #hardware20:15
Genyarok20:15
shahbaz.20:15
lolcatJordan_U: I wanted something more like hdparm --trim-sectors 0:inf20:15
ravenActionParsnip, i tried that already but i have several problems to configure mail, no way to read atom and such20:15
ActionParsnipgenyar: its like asking "what is the best colour"20:15
Peyamanybody knows how to get the GPU temperature?20:15
Jordan_Ulolcat: OK, then I ask again. Do you want to lose all of the data currently on the drive permanently?20:16
ActionParsnipraven: or use a terminal reader and pipe the text to a text file or whatever20:16
clue_hPeyam, lm-sensors might work, i use it for temperature readings20:17
lolcatJordan_U: remove it20:17
Peyamclue_h: I need to show it in conky- Already got lm-senstrs20:17
martinramehi, I'm using mutt as my main mail client, but I need to find another more-html-friendly one for my work accounts. Do you know any Maildir capable email client?20:17
Jordan_Ulolcat: I don't understand that answer.20:17
lolcatJordan_U: Loosing data would imply I would not be inpossesion of it anymore20:17
lolcatWhich is not the case20:18
lolcatI just want to remove it from the ssd20:18
lolcatAnd not necissarily permanently20:18
ActionParsnipmartinrame: apparently thunderbird can20:19
matematikaaditI20:19
ActionParsnipmartinrame: according to wikipedia20:19
matematikaaditI've strange behaviour with unity.20:19
martinrameActionParsnip: thanks, I'll look further into thunderbird.20:20
Jordan_Ulolcat: OK. But you understand that after running trim on the entire drive it will be as if the entire drive contains only zeroes, so any data on the drive that is not backed up elsewhere will be gone. Correct?20:20
martinrameWhat I really need, is to have something else for answering html mail, because in mutt it looks weird when my emails are read from Oulook.20:21
lolcatJordan_U: No it won't. It will be 1s20:21
lolcatand not really ones either20:21
matematikaaditwhen I turn off Desktop Icons (via unity-tweak-tool), somehow dash could not be started by pressing Super key when there are no program running.20:22
NeverHereI am trying to copy files between my ubuntu server and my windows computer, i know scp works for linux to linux but idk how to use scp in windows if you even can, any ideas on how?20:22
matematikaaditanyone could reproduce the bugs I mentioned above? I've using ubuntu 13.04.20:25
rypervencheNeverHere: I would recommend getting cygwin on your Windows machine and setting up SSH on it.20:25
NeverHererypervenche, windows machine is loaded with malware, am trying to stream malwarebytes to it to remove malware, since i cant download anything on windows machine20:26
ActionParsnipneverhere: use filezilla20:26
NeverHereotherwise i would just use bitvise20:27
rypervencheNeverHere: Can't use a USB drive?20:27
NeverHereis for a friend of mine 2:30 min away :/20:27
ActionParsnipneverhere: you can copy files to the hidden shares which arr default in Windows20:27
ActionParsnipneverhere: every drive is default shared in windows.20:28
Jordan_Ulolcat: You should be able to run "sudo hdparm --trim-sector-ranges 0:65534 65535:131069 ... /dev/sdX" to trim all of the ranges (in incrememts of 65535) of the drive. #Warning to anyone else reading this, this command will wipe all data from a drive, do not use it.20:28
NeverHereyes but from command prompt what do you type to stream a file from a server to the windows machine?20:28
ActionParsnipneverhere: mount the share then copy to it. or setup a windows side sftp service etc20:29
NeverHerethere is no windows equivalent of scp?20:29
ActionParsnipneverhere: winscp20:30
NeverHerewinscp is installed on xp by default?20:30
martinrameNeverHere: cygwin20:30
NeverHereagain the system cannot download anything from the internet20:30
rypervencheNeverHere: You're going to need to install something on it no matter what if you don't have Internet access.20:30
NeverHereotherwise i wouldn't have this problem20:30
bekksNeverHere: How is that question related to Ubuntu?20:30
NeverHereis coming from an ubuntu server bekks20:31
NeverHere:p20:31
ActionParsnipneverhere: then you can mount the hidden shares and copy. Its all samba stuff20:31
NeverHerek thanks20:31
wissam_Hi , less /etc/fstab shows only one partion "ext4" but i have 4 other mounted ntfs partions !20:32
rypervenchewissam_: Then you can add them if you want them to start with the system.20:32
ActionParsnipwissam_: gvfs is mounting the partitions as you access them20:33
bekkswissam_: fstab does not necessarily contain every mounted filesystem.20:34
wissam_but they are already mounted20:34
wissam_bekks: Ok thnx20:34
bekkswissam_: Which still doesnt imply that have to be in the fstab. :)20:34
ActionParsnipwissam_: fstab contains file systems to mount at boot or file systems that need special options20:34
ravenhow to configure rss2email to use postfix?20:36
wissam_i like linux and want to learn shell programming but when i see you talking about a lot of things that i don't know i feel disappointed :/20:39
Pinkamena_DI installed connman and coul dnot get it to work, so I uninstalled it. This took away network manager, so I installed that again. Now the network manager icon will not show up20:39
ActionParsnipraven: http://archive.is/EyxiT20:39
ActionParsnippinkamena: do you need to connect to other networks?20:40
Pinkamena_Dits a laptop, so..yes20:40
Pinkamena_DI like wicd better but for some reason I could never get it to connect on resume20:40
Pinkamena_DI want to know how to fix it anyway, just so I know for the future.20:41
ravenActionParsnip, thats all done nothing works20:41
ActionParsnippinkamena_D: try purging the packages then reinstalling them may help20:41
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ActionParsnipraven: do they have an irc channel?20:42
ravenno20:42
Pinkamena_Dtrying it...20:42
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Guest40352hello i am new here and i want to know more about this thank you.20:44
Pinkamena_Dno, purging and reinstalling (then sudo service start) still does not show up20:44
Guest40352hello20:45
Pinkamena_Ddoes not seem to show up in sysmonitor either20:45
ActionParsnippinkamena_D: is nm-applet running?20:46
ActionParsnipguest40352: about what?20:46
Pinkamena_DI don't see it in network manager, if that is where you are supposed to see it.20:47
Pinkamena_DIm sorry, I meant in sysmonitor20:47
ActionParsnippinkamena_D: ps -ef | grep applet | grep -v grep20:47
Pinkamena_Dno20:48
Pinkamena_Djust bluetooth applet20:48
ActionParsnippinkamena_D: try running nm-applet20:48
guntbertGuest40352: this is the official Ubuntu support channel. Do you have an ubuntu support question?20:48
Pinkamena_Dnm-applet20:48
Pinkamena_Doops20:48
Guest40352please is there any way i can chert on facebook from here?20:48
Pinkamena_Dok that works20:48
guntbert!enter | Pinkamena_D20:48
ubottuPinkamena_D: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!20:48
guntbertGuest40352: no, sorry20:49
Guest40352tks20:49
ActionParsnippinkamena_D: reboot. if its not there add it to the startup manually20:49
Pinkamena_Dok20:49
Pinkamena_Dweird20:49
ripplebitAnyone with experience running a server on several linux distro's, which do you use and why?20:49
Pinkamena_Dthank you for the assistance20:49
ActionParsnippinkamena_d: indeed20:49
guntbert!ot | ripplebit20:49
ubotturipplebit: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:49
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bourbon102yo20:58
asad2005I am having problem with my /home partion is full but when i do du -sh /home/asad/* | sort -rh | head -n 10 i dont see big size compared with my partition size, Is there a hidden file that this command is not listing its an SSD partition?21:07
bekksasad2005: du counts the space used - regardless of wether files are hidden or not.21:07
XabsterHi, I want to experience 13.04 in a VM on windows 7 or a live boot USB before doing the switch - is there a notable difference in my experience by doing either?21:08
asad2005the other thing i am suspection is that i have changed my downloads folder to refer to a folder in different part and that partition size is much bigger than /home21:08
bekksasad2005: and -h is messing up the output of sort.21:08
wilee-nileeXabster, Both will be slower at the least.21:09
Xabsterof course :)21:09
wilee-nileeXabster, A virtual generally has its own drivers rather than using the repos, so some differences there.21:10
bekksasad2005: Then use du -shx instead du -sh21:10
wilee-nileeXabster, Both good ways to try it out though.21:10
Xabsterright, cause it's emulated devices... will a live usb install proper drivers for my GFX card? that used to be a problem for me to test whether or not i could get them to work on nix distros21:10
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wilee-nileeXabster, The live should you will need a persistent setup to save them, if the usb is big enough you can do a full install as well.21:11
bekksXabster: the "live usb installer" is exactly the same as the iso based installer. Just another medium.21:11
Xabsteryes, but it does not allow me to install a propriatery driver for my GFX card to see if it works21:12
Xabstera VM install will21:12
Xabsterbut a VM will be using a emulated device21:12
bekksWrong.21:12
Xabsterwhich part?21:12
asad2005bekks: How i can restore the default download folder to start with?21:12
Eoin_hey i installed garrys mod the linux version and now everytime i boot up my laptop it boots into busybox21:12
bekksA VM == (virtualized machine) is not emulated. And in a VM, you will not be able to use the drivers for the GFX card of your host.21:13
bekksasad2005: I dont know what you did - I cant tell you what you need to do to revert it.21:13
Xabsterthat's what i said...21:13
Xabsterthe devices are21:13
bekksXabster: They arent. They are virtualized.21:13
Xabsterthe device for GFX that the VM sees is the VirtualBox "emulated" device21:13
Xabsteror VMWare GFX Adapter21:14
Xabsteror whatever21:14
asad2005bekks: i tried du -shx still same couldnot pointed out which file or folder is eating my 81 gb21:14
bekksXabster: Now you get into the details. For vbox and vmware, thats true.21:14
bekksasad2005: Cannot be the same, since -x will not count stuff on another filesystem.21:14
volitek_I'm trying to install ubuntu after windows, fdisk -l shows my windows partitions and warns me that they're GPT so it can't work on them, and gparted displays the whole disk as unallocated. How do I resize my windows partition to install ubuntu next to it?21:14
Eoin_so anyone know how to get back to unity from busy box21:14
Xabsterbasicly i've had problems with GFX drivers. Neither VMWare, VirtualBox, or a live USB will allow me to test if I can get it to work - got any 4th option?21:14
joobieguys21:15
bekksvolitek_: You cant, using gparted.21:15
ActionParsnipxabster: you can install the video driver in live cd then restart the x server and it will load21:15
joobiehow do you get around that installer ubuntu bug where grub-install faisl?21:15
wilee-nileevolitek_, THis a W8 dualboot?21:15
bekksXabster: Test on real hardware.21:15
joobiesomething to do with EFI/UEFI ?21:15
ActionParsnipxabster: killall -u $USER ,will do it21:15
Xabsterbekks: right, but that's what I want to avoid really - dual booting has messed up a lot for me in the past21:15
XabsterActionParsnip: ?21:15
ActionParsnip!uefi21:15
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI21:15
bekksXabster: Thats the only way to do what you want.21:16
Eoin_feck off21:16
bekksEoin_: behave.21:16
ActionParsnipxabster: how can i reply to a question mark.....seriously?21:16
XabsterActionParsnip: you're saying I can fake "persistent drivers" by killing all my users' processes and "reboot" part of it only?21:16
volitek_wilee-nilee: no, it's windows 721:16
Eoin_is the linux mint irc still around21:16
ActionParsnip!mint21:16
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org21:16
wilee-nileevolitek_, Check the uefi bot info.21:16
ActionParsnipxabster: install driver, kill all use processes and the driver will load. you dont need to reboot. this isnt windows21:17
joobiethanks ActionParsnip21:17
Xabsterokay... but *if* I reboot the driver will be gone of course, right?21:17
joobieActionParsnip, why doesn't ubuntu better supprot it?21:18
bekksXabster: No. :)21:18
ActionParsnipjoobie: no idea. im trying to avoid it. its getting better21:18
joobieActionParsnip, why?21:19
fulcanI did an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.10 and then 12.2, now my boot hangs. I tried booting to recovery mode. the best I can do is get to the recovery mode screen. no traceable error. it seems to try and mount the filesystem, and that's where it hangs.21:19
volitek_wilee-nilee: it doesn't say how to resize. If I choose 'do something else' in the install, it shows it as an empty disk, all free space.21:20
bekksfulcan: So you ommited 11.04? And its 12.04 btw.21:20
ActionParsnipfulcan: did you upgrade to 11.04 in between maverick and oneiric21:20
wilee-nileefulcan, You ever get this fixed in 11.10 or just upgraded anyway?21:20
user_590 witam ktos z  polski  hello21:20
bekks!pl | user_59021:20
ubottuuser_590: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.21:20
fulcanbekks yup, I got it to 12.0421:20
bekksfulcan: And you ommitted 11.04?21:21
fulcanwilee-nilee upgraded.21:21
fulcanbekks no21:21
niarghUbuntu 12.04LTS -- two monitors -- is there a way to have Ctrl+Alt+F1 (or F2, F3, ...) bring up a session login on a specific monitor?21:21
ActionParsnipjoobie: i avoid stuff that isnt known to work well. so until uefi gets nice ill be keeping it off. i dont use windows so my life is easy :-)21:21
bekksniargh: it will come up on the first one, always.21:21
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joobieActionParsnip, ahh.. you are a conservative man?21:22
niarghbekks: Ok, thanks!21:22
ActionParsnipfulcan: do you use proprietary video drivers?21:22
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wilee-nileefulcan, Heh, you have a mess there I will put you in my prayers to my agnostic higher power. ;)21:22
ActionParsnipjoobie: just smart in my purchases21:22
rahuleshi, i'm not able to connect to ad-hoc network created in windows7 in ubuntu 13.04, the network manager panel shows the network name as greyed out.  My wireless driver is broadcom 4313, using bcmwl -kernel-source driver21:22
fulcanthis is where it hangs  http://i44.tinypic.com/jgtdzm.png21:23
fulcanActionParsnip it's a vps21:23
Diamondciterahules: Is the Windows Ad-Hoc network secured with WPA? If so try the weaker WEP security21:23
rahulesDiamondcite: yes. the network is using a WPA Personal secured key21:23
wilee-nileefulcan, You have a image of the original?21:24
fulcanwilee-nilee yes21:24
ActionParsnipfulcan: id boot livecd and fsck the partitions21:24
Diamondciterahules: As stated, please with the weaker WEP security an attempt instead21:24
wilee-nileefulcan, You started the upgrade incorrectly, if it were me I would make another of it and run the standard eol upgrade.21:24
fulcanActionParsnip ok, but I doubt it's that. it's a new vps21:24
rahulesDiamondcite: . okay. will try21:24
rahulesDiamondcite: thanks21:24
bekksfulcan: If its new, why did it have 10.10 preinstalled? :)21:25
ActionParsnipfulcan: thats probably why the filesystem wont mount cleanly21:25
ActionParsnipbekks: +121:25
fulcanbekks I created the vps image and then rsync'ed the os to the local/new vps21:26
bekksfulcan: Earlier you said, you have 4+ years old software on it. So I do not believe you actually have a "new" VPS.21:26
bekksfulcan: And now you are wondering why it wont boot - on a different vps?21:26
fulcanbekks I know linux a lot better than that.21:26
bekksfulcan: I doubt that, too.21:26
fulcanbekks I migrate boxes the same way every day.21:27
fulcanit booted fine on the vps until upgrade.21:27
jhutchinsActionParsnip: You know uEFI has been around for ages, right?21:27
wilee-nileesame vps different container I think that is the mix up here21:27
jhutchinsI was building systems on it in 2008.21:28
ActionParsnipjhutchins: yes. all my systems are circa 2002 ish...21:28
fulcanwilee-nilee the container was fine and rebooted 20 times, then I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.something and that when the boot failure began. I got it up to 12 now and same issue.21:29
wilee-nileefulcan, Right but you used the gui upgrade, this is a eol, it has a specific upgrade method21:30
wilee-nilee!eol | fulcan21:30
ubottufulcan: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades21:30
jhutchinsfulcan: I suppose a couple of tests would be to install 11 or 12 directly to a new VM.  Doesn't take long.  That or try running one of them as a live image.21:30
volitek_I ran boot-repair summary: http://paste2.org/MtjbVs4421:30
volitek_I mean http://paste2.org/MtJbVs4421:31
fulcanwilee-nilee I never touch guis21:31
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fulcanwilee-nilee I am not eol anymore!21:31
wilee-nileefulcan, I thought you had said you ran the upgrade manager, never the less did you use the eol upgrade, curbe your ego here please.21:32
wilee-nileefulcan, !0.10 was, if it were me I would throw away this bad upgrade and run one from the original correctly.21:32
wilee-nileeeasy peasy21:32
fulcando-release-upgrade21:33
ActionParsnipvolitek_: is this a wubi install?21:33
fulcanwilee-nilee ^^ upgrade method21:33
wilee-nileefulcan, incorrect for the eol21:33
jhutchinsvolitek_: I haven't messed with the installer on GPT yet - what if you just resize it with a gparted live disc before you do the install?21:33
volitek_ActionParsnip: no21:34
jhutchinsvolitek_: gparted can also create the "fake" dos partition table for you.21:34
dnf0sqNew user, need help! Ubuntu Server 12.04, connected over ssh, trying to run an app over wine which throws error that it tried to create a window but no driver could be loaded, so i tried running startx over ssh, which threw error21:34
dnf0sqFatal server error:21:34
dnf0sqxf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted)21:34
volitek_jhutchins: That's what I want to do but gparted shows it as unallocated :(21:34
dnf0sq(Running everything as root)21:34
bekksjhutchins: gparted cant deal with GPT, iirc.21:34
jhutchinsbekks: I thought it was the go-to tool...21:34
ActionParsnipvolitek_: try booting to livecd and chroot to the installed OS and reinstate Grub to the MBR. OmgUbuntu has a guide called: sticking it to grub21:35
jhutchinsdnf0sq: Why do you think this should work?21:35
bekksdnf0sq: Stop running a graphical application as root. And using ssh, you have to use ssh -X, and start a X server on your client before.21:35
pawanSound Recorder has stopped working on my Ubuntu 13.04. I think it's because I've broken some packages while updating some libqt4 files recently.21:35
ActionParsnipdnf0sq: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue21:35
dnf0sqbekks: are you saying that i should run startx over vnc before connecting through ssh?21:36
dnf0sqbekks: also, i am not running wine through the root user21:36
bekksdnf0sq: No. I did not even talk about startx since its deprecated. I said: dont use root. I said: use ssh -X21:36
jhutchinsdnf0sq: No.  Why do you think you would be able to do that?21:36
volitek_ActionParsnip: I don't have a linux install, I'm on a live cd trying to install ubuntu21:36
bekksdnf0sq: stop using the root user for things like wine and stuff.21:36
wilee-nileevolitek_, You have not installed yet right?21:36
ActionParsnipdnf0sq: what is the output of the command I gave please21:36
volitek_But I can't resize my windows partition21:36
volitek_because it shows it as unallocated21:37
volitek_so i cant install21:37
dnf0sqbekks: Once again, I am not using root user for wine.21:37
volitek_wilee-nilee: right21:37
bekksdnf0sq: Then why do you use the root user at all?21:37
wilee-nileevolitek_, You use the windows disk manager to resize21:37
ActionParsnipvolitek_: then boot to windows and resize there if its win721:37
volitek_Can you resize the partition whilst using it?21:37
dnf0sqbekks: 1 min21:37
volitek_or do I need to boot into some windows live cd21:37
pawanCould anyone help me identify broken packages?21:37
wilee-nileevolitek_, In windows yes, it;s like magic.21:38
ActionParsnipvolitek_: windows can resize its own ntfs21:38
dnf0sqActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/ENZXLNT921:38
joobieboys21:38
volitek_Oh, cool, I'll give it a go21:38
joobieim creating a partition layout manually on my disk21:38
joobieso that Ubuntu can install to it as it's UEFI21:38
wilee-nilee!enter | joobie21:38
ubottujoobie: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!21:38
wilee-nilee!uefi > joobie21:38
ubottujoobie, please see my private message21:38
joobiei made the first partition 200MB and gave it a mountpoint of /boot/efi .. fat32.. would i then tell it to install grub onto this partition?21:39
wilee-nileejoobie, More uefi if needed. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729521:39
ActionParsnipdnf0sq: then connect with: ssh -X user@server21:40
jhutchinsConfirmed that command-line parted has been able to handle GPT since at leaste 2010.21:40
joobiewilee-nilee, it is such a shitfight to get it working21:40
fulcanwilee-nilee filesystem is clean21:40
joobiewilee-nilee, are there plans for it to be natively built into the installer to handle this?21:40
wilee-nileefulcan, Not sure of the relevance, but okay.21:40
ActionParsnipdnf0sq: you can then run GUI apps and they wil show up on the client system21:40
bekksfulcan: How did you check - which exact command did you use?21:40
dnf0sqAlright, so, as normal user i run "sh mw2server.sh", which is: http://pastebin.com/0qfv4M6m . After that i get output: http://pastebin.com/qQQZV9KQ21:41
fulcanbekks fsck /dev/sda121:41
bekksfulcan: You should have used the -f option.21:41
wilee-nileefulcan, As an analogy you are trying to fix brain surgery started with a crowbar rather then the correct tools.21:41
volitek_Wow, done, that really is like magic21:41
fulcanit there was anything to fix21:41
jhutchinsvolitek_: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-gpt/21:42
bekksdnf0sq: I told you to use ssh -X and to have a running X server on your client.21:42
dnf0sqbekks: How do I get X server running?21:42
bekksdnf0sq: But installing it locally on your client, and not on your server.21:42
fulcansame with -f21:42
dnf0sqbekks: installing what locally on my client?21:43
bekksdnf0sq: The X server.21:43
ActionParsnipvolitek_: simple stuff dude21:43
jhutchinsAlso confirmed that the current Parted Magick Live CD will handle GPT.21:43
wilee-nileefulcan, And you alienated some of the best help with your ego, best if luck your in my ignore as of now.21:43
dnf0sqbekks: i am connecting through windows (putty) on ssh server on my ubuntu 12.04 server21:44
Wh1plashAnyone have any strong feelings about tmux?21:44
bekksdnf0sq: Then install an X server on your Windows.21:44
ActionParsnipdnf0sq: you wil need a running x server on the client. if you are connecting with desktop linux then you have an x server. for windows you can install xming :-)21:44
ActionParsnipwh1plash: its not bad21:44
jhutchinswilee-nilee: You can NOT display remote GUI programs with putty.21:44
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wilee-nileejhutchins, Heh, did I say you could. ;)21:45
Wh1plashActionParsnip: I just started messing around with it. Do you use it much? Use cases?21:45
ActionParsnipjhutchins: you can but it needs and x server too.21:45
dnf0sqbekks: installed xming21:45
jhutchinswilee-nilee: Sorry, that was meant to be to dnf0sq21:46
jhutchinsdnf0sq: http://www.math.umn.edu/systems_guide/putty_xwin32.html21:46
bekksdnf0sq: Then create a new putty session using X-Forwarding21:46
joobieman this failed again21:46
joobiegrr21:46
wilee-nileejhutchins, Heh, I figured, no biggie. ;)21:46
ActionParsnipwh1plash: connecting to multiplr solaris 10 boxes. I also use cssh21:46
volitek_Okay... So I resized the windows partition in windows but the ubuntu live cd is still showing the whole disk as unallocated. How am I meant to install without overwriting windows?21:46
bekksclusterssh is pretty cool. :)21:46
dnf0sqjhutchins: i do not want to display gui over putty, i want to run gui (somewhere), no need to see what's happening with gui21:47
ActionParsnipvolitek_: tried chkdsking your ntfs partition in windows?21:47
ActionParsnipbekks: very21:47
volitek_Nope, i'll give it a o21:47
volitek_go21:47
bekksActionParsnip: I'm using it for the same thing as you :)21:47
jhutchinsdnf0sq: Then you need to know how to tell the GUI you're trying to run which display to run on.21:48
wilee-nileevolitek_, YOu might give a the full history if your setup W7 with got is a bit unusual, was this a W8 at one time is it a apple computer. May be a broken partition table, details will help the channel.21:48
wilee-nileegpt*21:48
jhutchinsdnf0sq: You also need to have the xauth key that allows you to manipulate a display that is "owned" by a different log-in.21:48
wilee-nileevolitek_, Sorry for the bad spelling.....You might give a full history if your setup W7 with gpt is a bit unusual, was this a W8 at one time is it a apple computer. May be a broken partition table, details will help the channel.21:49
_44trent3How do I use the fglrx-installer_8.960.orig.tar.gz file I downloaded. I used this tutrorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI21:49
_44trent3It linked me to a page to download it.21:49
dnf0sqjhutchins: xauth key? i'm a noob to linux, though i am eager to learn.21:50
ActionParsnipdnf0sq: then why are you messing with root if you are new to the OS?21:51
dnf0sqActionParsnip: mostly following tutorials21:51
bekksdnf0sq: If you want to run a graphical application like wine - and you dont want to see it - why do you run it?21:51
volitek_chkdsk found no problems21:52
_44trent3Anyone?21:52
dnf0sqbekks: it's a mw2 server, there's no other way (i think) to run it, but as gui which is a custom console21:52
volitek_wilee-nilee: It's a desktop I built, just put a new mobo in it and reinstalled windows from scratch21:52
StickythighsI am new to linux21:52
wilee-nileevolitek_, Your problem is you have gpt remnants, your not actualy using gpt this is problematic for linux, hold on.21:53
jkitchenquestion: when I install libvirt-bin on a fresh system, it creates (and starts) a /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks/default file. I'd like to prevent that from happening. is there a way to do so?21:53
jhutchinsdnf0sq: This may give you the information you need: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/10121/open-a-window-on-a-remote-x-display-why-cannot-open-display21:53
joshskidmoreanyone have experience with smaller NAS solutions (for home / small business)?21:54
dnf0sqty21:54
_44trent3It said to install it through the hardware drivers but I don't know how to do so.21:54
bekksdnf0sq: So you need to display the "custom console". So you need a X server on your client to display it.21:54
wilee-nileevolitek_, http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/wipegpt.html21:54
dnf0sqbekks: there's no need to see wtf is in the "custom console", i just need to have it running in background - no need to interact with gui21:55
bekksdnf0sq: Without displaying it, you cannot run it.21:55
_44trent3ANYBODY!21:55
dnf0sqjhutchins: export DISPLAY=:1 is already in my .sh file21:56
bekks_44trent3: We can read lower caps too.21:56
bekksdnf0sq: You need a running X server on your client.21:56
wilee-nileevolitek_, Your tool needed is this from that link. http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/21:56
jhutchinsdnf0sq: http://jdimpson.livejournal.com/2992.html21:56
jhutchinsdnf0sq: :1 is probably wrong.21:56
dnf0sqbekks: such as xming?21:56
bekksdnf0sq: Yes.21:56
dnf0sqbekks: already have it running (since you asked me to install it)21:56
wilee-nileevolitek_, I'm not sure as far as the integrity of the W7 so read carefully.21:57
_44trent3How do I use thia file then:  fglrx-installer_8.960.orig.tar.gz21:57
bekksdnf0sq: Then you have to do the second thing I told you, too.21:57
jhutchinsbekks: I believe he is trying to launch a GUI program remotely, with the display running on the remote machine, not forwarded back to his client.21:57
dnf0sqbekks: which is?21:57
bekksjhutchins: Without a X server, thats pretty impossible-21:57
bekksdnf0sq: setup the putty session to forward X.21:57
dnf0sqjhutchins: yup21:58
jhutchinsdnf0sq: Do you not have X running on the remote server?21:58
dnf0sqbekks: done already21:58
jhutchinsdnf0sq: A "yup" to a negative is confusing.21:58
dnf0sqbekks: you mean X11 forwarding?21:59
bekksdnf0sq: Thats what I said two times, yes.21:59
Jordan_U_44trent3: You don't. Use the driver installation feature of Ubuntu Software Center.21:59
dnf0sqjhutchins: "bekks: I believe he is trying to launch a GUI..." - YUP, I am!21:59
_44trent3Ooooh.21:59
dnf0sqbekks: it's already set up, checked the checkbox "X11 Forwarding", and connected as normal user. tried shing mw2server.sh, same output22:00
bekksdnf0sq: Then export DISPLAY=:1 is wrong.22:00
volitek_wilee-nilee: it worked!! thank you soooo much!!!22:00
bekksdnf0sq: Just omit it completely, and restart the session.22:00
volitek_and i learn some stuff i didnt know before woop22:01
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ubottu_44trent3: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.22:01
jhutchinsdnf0sq: You are not being very clear.  I realize this is frustrating, and having several people telling you things may not help.  You can either launch the GUI app and tell it to display on the server where it's running, if that server is running a GUI, or you can tell the app to display on the system you are working from if you run a local Xserver and tell putty to forward to it.  You might want to use something simple like xclock to te22:01
jhutchinsdnf0sq: I do not know specifically that Wine will work this way, but it should.22:01
dnf0sqbekks: ls /tmp/.X11-unix/ gives me output "X1"22:01
* jhutchins goes off to watch NASCAR22:02
Voihow do i get a disk mounted on starting banshee22:02
_44trent3...22:02
usr13!info tagtool | share22:03
ubottushare: tagtool (source: tagtool): Tool to tag and rename MP3 and Ogg Vorbis files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.3-8.1ubuntu1 (raring), package size 192 kB, installed size 1043 kB22:03
dnf0sqbekks: so, "logout", open new putty, create new session with x11 forwarding turned on, and then connecting as normal user & running .sh should work?22:03
_44trent3WHERE DO I FIND THAT THEN!??!22:03
bekksdnf0sq: No.22:03
dnf0sqbekks: Okay, what did I miss?22:03
bekksdnf0sq: Remove that export ... from the script, close the putty session, restart the putty session.22:03
bekks_44trent3: STOP SHOUTING PLEASE.22:03
_44trent3Where...do...I...FIND IT!!22:05
bekks_44trent3: Stop shouting.22:05
dnf0sqbekks: alright, done. should i NOW do "sh mw2server.sh"?22:05
bekksdnf0sq: Yes.22:05
_44trent3Where do I find it...22:05
bekks_44trent3: Where do you find ... what? Please tell us what you are looking for.22:06
dnf0sqalright, getting the gui output, however, i got another error22:06
_44trent3The driver installation feature in Ubuntu Software Center.22:06
dnf0sqbekks: my message above + http://pastebin.com/JutqqnHa22:06
energizerMy SSD is ~full so I'm trying to move /home to my HDD, but I'm having some trouble with the guides. Can someone help me through it? Do i necessarily want to make a new partition for /home on my storage HDD, or can I keep it in the same partition with everything else?22:06
bekksdnf0sq: The last line of your paste states that you are missing a file.22:07
dnf0sqbekks: i know, but are you familiar with that particular file?22:07
bekksdnf0sq: Just install it, after taking a look at packages.ubuntu.com to get the name of the package that contains it.22:08
Walexenergizer: Linux/UNIX systems deal with filetrees, not partitions22:08
Walexenergizer: you can then filetreed together with symbolic links or 'mount --bind' redirections22:09
NoskcajWhen running "mk-sbuild saucy" i get the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872370/ What am i doing wrong?22:09
dnf0sqbekks: how do i get the name of the package which contains that file?22:09
Walexdnf0sq: 'dpkg -S' or 'apt-file search'22:09
bekksdnf0sq: Visit the site I just told you, and search for the package that contains that file.22:09
energizerWalex im trying to start this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving22:09
irpapabearo.o22:09
Voii want to mount a device on a program startup, how do i do that?22:09
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energizerWalex: is that guide a good idea, or should I disregard the partition advice and just copy the /home folder over22:10
Walexenergizer: it is one of the many terrifyingly bad HOWTOs that tries to do the impossible and give a "follow these steps without understanding them" logic as demanded by most users22:10
Walexenergizer: the steps it recommends are sensible on their own, but obviously they apply exactly only in one specific case.22:11
ABChey guys, I just installed ubuntu on my laptop, is there anything I would need to do to stay safe,secure, no viruses, worms, hackers etc? i am almost all the time on hotspots22:11
Walexenergizer: so if you understand well each step and why it is done, you can change it to match your situation.22:11
dnf0sqthe package "gnome-keyring" is already installed, and updated to the newest version. should i reinstall it?22:12
usr13energizer: What is it you do not uderstand?22:12
WalexABC: it is a complex issue, but the number 1 hotspot rule is: always and only 'https' and other encrypted protocols like SSH for connections.22:12
dnf0sqbekks: the package "gnome-keyring" is already installed, and updated to the newest version. should i reinstall it?22:12
bekksdnf0sq: if that packages provides the missing file - yes.22:12
usr13energizer: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit   #Show is the URL so we can see what you have.22:13
WalexABC: there are for example Firefox extensions that try to turn every 'http' connection into an 'https' one.22:13
energizerWalex: so i dont think i really need to make an HDD partition for /home specifically, as it suggests. Right?22:13
Walexenergizer: no, you don't need to.22:13
Walexenergizer: one can put any filetree in any partition and then use symlinks or 'mount --bind' to sort out paths.22:14
ABCWalex: So not any software I should get?22:14
usr13Walex: I don't think he needs a symlink, just a fstab entry that points to where it is.  Right?22:14
WalexABC: perphaps a simple firewall like 'ferm'. But then if it is your laptop, are you going to run any services on other than 'lo' device?22:14
dnf0sqbekks: reinstalled gnome-keyring, however, it hasn't brought the specified file. packages.ubuntu.com doesn't give me any package with that file, but apt-file does22:15
Walexusr13: depends!22:15
Walexusr13: if it is easy for him to change '/etc/passwd' home directory paths, he needs neither symlink nor 'fstab' changes.22:15
bekksdnf0sq: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/libp11-kit-gnome-keyring22:16
Walexusr13: if he wants to keep home directory paths beginning with '/home' he needs symlinks or 'mount --bind'22:16
bekksdnf0sq: Thats the package you are missing.22:16
dnf0sqbekks: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so is the file we need, and /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so is the file gnome-keyring installs22:16
usr13energizer: pastebinit /etc/fstab  #Show us the URL and we will look at what you have now.22:16
dnf0sqbekks: so i assume i should cp it?22:16
ABCAnyone here using some extra software/protection on there ubuntu setup?22:16
Walexusr13: 'mount --bind' can be configured in 'fstab' by default22:16
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bekksdnf0sq: No.22:17
dnf0sqbekks: sec, lemme install it22:17
energizerWalex: usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872393/22:18
dnf0sqbekks: i don't have the repository with that package, where do i find the repo?22:18
Walexenergizer: that says nothing significant22:18
bekksdnf0sq: Its an official ubuntu repo.22:19
dnf0sqbekks: ok, wtf am i missing? http://pastebin.com/xHAHgw9h22:19
energizerWalex: mk just doing it cause usr13 asked for it22:20
bekksdnf0sq: Which ubuntu release do you use?22:20
Walexenergizer: IIRC <usr13> asked for the disk partition table, not the filesystem table.22:20
dnf0sqbekks: 12.04... sources.list: http://pastebin.com/aVSdunF722:20
Walexenergizer: ah no, he asked for 'fstab' too.22:21
energizerhere's the other one http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872399/22:21
usr13energizer: So you have a 1TB drive you are not using?22:23
usr13energizer: df | pastebinit22:23
luis_hello if i have a console program that requires input how do i run it with the input22:24
bekksdnf0sq: You have to install the gnome-keyring:i386 package22:24
energizerusr13: i have storage on Tera22:24
luis_instead of typing it on runtime22:24
energizerusr13: Walex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872410/22:24
aaron_i am trying to move the notification area in gnome panel but it does not work22:24
dnf0sqbekks: already have it22:25
dnf0sqbekks: no, wait22:25
dnf0sqbekks: http://pastebin.com/41hJn2Gh22:26
aaron_done it needed to use a seperator22:26
aaron_lol22:26
Walexenergizer: you have 2/3 of 'sdb' not used yet... Do you really need to move all of 'home' outside 'sdb'?22:26
fulcanI finally found something that might indicate why I am hanging up at boot http://bpaste.net/show/pCCA27PL3xFXKeLXnJnS/22:26
bekksdnf0sq: You have to install the named dependencies, too.22:26
Walexfulcan: very good guess22:26
usr13energizer: What exactly do you want to do?22:27
energizerusr13: Walex I got a notification that my SSD had ~300MB remaining. Does that seem to be wrong? Or are these measuring different things?22:28
usr13energizer:  ls /home/   #What is there now?  (Show us.)22:29
Walexenergizer: perhaps it has 300MB which are not partitioned, but '/' has 64% of its space, or around 70GB, unused.22:29
Walexenergizer: check with 'df -h /home/.'22:30
dnf0sqbekks: aptitude cannot install the package, it doesn't offer a solution of any kind for gnome-keyring:i38622:31
energizerFilesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on22:31
energizer/dev/sdb2       110G   38G   67G  36% /22:31
Walexenergizer: reads pretty clear...22:31
bekksdnf0sq: you should not use aptitude, but apt-get.22:31
usr13Walex: He gave us that:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872410/22:31
dnf0sqbekks: told you what apt-get returns22:32
Walexusr13: yes, but that file is obviously less readable and conceivably '/home/.' could have been somewhere else22:32
bekksdnf0sq: And that does not mean you should use aptitude.22:32
usr13Walex: Where could it have been?22:32
bekksdnf0sq: I told you the solution.22:32
dnf0sqbekks: to install dependencies?22:32
bekksdnf0sq: Correct.22:33
Walexusr13: instead 'df -h', of just '/home', and ensuring it is that by using '/home/.'22:33
usr13Walex: (you say his fstab file.)22:33
energizerbecause / includes /media/Tera, is the 36% including Tera's available space?22:33
bekksenergizer: No.22:33
dnf0sqbekks: so i should "apt-get install libgcr-3-1:i386" ?22:33
bekksdnf0sq: Yes.22:33
energizerbekks elaborate plz?22:33
Walexusr13: perhaps he had already symlinked '/home' or mounted '/home' somewhere else, e.g. '/boot', or who-knows.22:33
bekksenergizer: you asked a yes/no question - and got the answer. Every filesystem is shown on its own.22:34
dnf0sqbekks: alright, ran it: E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages22:34
dnf0sq.22:34
usr13energizer:  ls /home/   #What is there now?  (Show us.)22:34
bekksdnf0sq: Then carefully read the message and fix the problem.22:34
dnf0sqbekks: should i run "apt-get -f install" ?22:34
bekksdnf0sq: No.22:34
aaron_does anybody know how can edit these options when i right click? http://slavsan.deviantart.com/art/conky-black-transparency-187271049?offset=10#comments22:34
energizerthanks bekks22:35
dnf0sqbekks: so... what do i do?22:35
bekksdnf0sq: I just told you.22:35
omnomnOMINOUSi'm installing ubuntu 13.04 on a laptop that already has windows 8 on it. if i do the partitioning myself, do i need to create a swap partition and a boot partition? or will i be okay just creating / (root) and /home partitions?22:35
dnf0sqbekks: install dependencies?22:35
energizerusr13 my stuff is in there22:35
dnf0sqbekks: oh, sry, didn't see22:35
usr13energizer:  ls /home/   #What is there now?  (Show us.)22:35
rypervencheomnomnOMINOUS: You will want a swap partition, you can leave / only or you can create a separate /home if you really want. It all depends on you.22:36
omnomnOMINOUSrypervenche: cool. will i also need a boot partition?22:36
rypervencheomnomnOMINOUS: Again, that's up to you. It might be a good idea, but it is not necessary if you keep backups of your /boot directory. All depends on how you plan on using your system.22:37
Walexnote that swap partitions are no longer necessary: the Linux kernel since 5-10 years ago does a thing that means that well built swap files are as fast as swap partitions22:37
platzhirschThere are processes which I would like to bring down with killall, but I get no process found, I have to specify it with the PID. Is there a way to get the process name? It seems not to be the one displayed by ps -ef22:37
energizerusr13 its a folder with my name, and  within that there is bin      Documents  Dropbox  Music     Public      Videos22:37
energizerDesktop  Downloads  Geeking  Pictures  Ubuntu One22:37
energizerI can show you but its just the username folder22:37
Walexenergizer: then perhaps 'du -sh /home/.' might also help22:37
wilee-nileeWalex, Not exactly true, needed for hibernation.22:37
usr13energizer:  ls /home/   #What is there now?  (Show us.)22:37
energizerusr13 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872447/22:38
Walexenergizer: but basically you have 67GiB liberi, plenty for you I guess.22:38
energizersudo du -sh /home/.22:38
energizer20G/home/.22:38
dnf0sqbekks: each dependency leads to another which in the end leads to "libgck-3-common:i386" which doesn't exist on google22:39
bekksdnf0sq: It does not need to exist on google. It exists in the repos.22:39
dnf0sqbekks: doesn't exist in my repos22:39
dnf0sqbekks: exists here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/i386/libgcr-3-common22:40
usr13energizer: sudo blkid | pastebinit22:40
omnomnOMINOUSthanks for the advice, rypervenche and Walex! i'll give this a shot now =)22:40
bekksdnf0sq: isnt that a repo?22:40
energizerusr13 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872464/22:40
dnf0sqbekks: apparently.. isn't that official ubuntu?22:41
usr13energizer: Is sda a sata drive?22:41
bekksdnf0sq: It isnt - but thats because of you, using PPA, most likely.22:41
energizerusr13 both are sata22:42
WatertowerWhich distro should I use if I want to get into enterprise linux computing?22:42
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bekksWatertower: Are you into linux at all?22:43
Watertowerbekks: I've dabbled, mostly just end user stuff22:43
usr13energizer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872447/  does not appear to be a complete output of  ls /home/22:44
bekksWatertower: Then you should spend some time in getting more comfortable with Linux at all, first.22:44
usr13energizer:  What is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872447/ ?22:45
energizerusr13 ls /home22:45
nnyk_Watertower: www.distrowatch.org ...22:45
Watertowerthanks!22:45
Guest94620I'm running Ubuntu as my primary OS and need windows for 1 thing, so I've decided to try and install it (dual boot). I have a new mobo with UEFI. My drive is already partitioned like so /dev/sda1 /boot/efi (fat32) flaged as boot,  /dev/sda2 is swap, /dev/sda3 is OS /dev/sda4 is /home Then /dev/sda5 I as hoping would be Windows. I go to install it and it gives me that error about can't install because it's a GPT partition or some22:46
Guest94620 bs, what's exactly going on here.22:46
dnf0sqbekks: how do i add this repository? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/i386/libgcr-3-common/3.2.2-2ubuntu422:46
usr13energizer: Ok.22:46
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energizerusr13 http://imgur.com/19ci5AO22:46
bekksWatertower: distrowatch is totally worthless. It just shows how often some link was clicked on the distrowatch site. Nothing else. Everyone else laughs about that site, honestly.22:46
nnyk_bekks: lol22:47
nnyk_used it a couple of times in the past...22:48
bekksnnyk_: That was no joke.22:48
nnyk_bekks: thought it'd help at least give some distros to look at...22:49
usr13energizer: What is /media/adam/Tera ?  What do you have stored there?22:49
bekksnnyk_: There are only two enterprise linux out there: RHEL and SLES.22:49
nnyk_bekks: okay...that is news to me.22:50
energizerusr13 mainly media22:50
usr13energizer: videos?  mp3s?22:50
energizerusr13: both22:51
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usr13energizer: ls /media/adam |pastebinit   #Show us.22:51
energizerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5872491/22:52
occi had windows on a ultrabook and the wifi worked well, since i installed ubuntu, the wifi works but disconnects every 5 minutes and takes a while to reconnect. will finding a better driver fix it?22:52
energizerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5872494/22:52
energizerthe second one is ls /media/adam/Tera22:53
Guest86015Guest86015 d22:55
Daelmhas anybody heard of a method to get the 'tap to click' to work on the logitech t650 trackpads22:59
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Daelmsecond, semi-related question, does anybody know if the 'tap to click' and all works well with the apple magic trackpad?23:00
Guest50671hola alguien me puede ayudar23:01
iharpI'm using 13.04. My browser severly hesitates before transmitting data. However, when running a speed test, my up and down speeds are exactly where they are supposed to be. Any thoughts?23:01
iharpI can post my specs if need be23:01
Guest50671ubuntu no me reconoce lector de memoria intagrado en sony vaio23:01
Daelmdoes it freeze up or just spin for a while?23:01
Guest50671alguine sabe23:01
Daelmmaybe try a different dns server if it's the later23:02
wilee-nilee!es > Guest5067123:04
ubottuGuest50671, please see my private message23:04
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Jordan_U!es | Guest5067123:05
ubottuGuest50671: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.23:05
marcohello23:07
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Guest78941I have been reading a lot but I couldnt find a solution for my problem I can load the server ltsp but when i try to load from another pc just get the wall paper not the programs ??? I used the default config in edubuntu 12.0423:09
Guest78941is it a common error?23:10
usr13Here is my recommendation for energizer:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872527/  #Constructive criticism welcome.23:10
Guest78941When i log in from the same pc i works ok but from anothe zru cable i cant23:11
Guest78941in internet nobody  says a similar problem23:12
energizerusr13 alright ill give it a shot. thanks for your help23:12
usr13energizer: Just a minute.23:13
Guest78941does any1 hava had a similar problem?23:13
usr13I think that moving Tera to /media/ may not be the best idea.23:13
usr13energizer: It should probably be in /home/adam23:14
usr13energizer: But I do not know if you have a conflicting directory there.  Maybe do this:23:14
usr13energizer: Step 3.5:  mv /media/Tera /media/adam/Media   (As along is /media/adam/Media does not already exist.)23:15
quasarhey guys!23:16
quasarcan you suggest me something to change unity with=23:16
quasar?23:16
wilee-nileequasar, unity-tweak and compiz which is there already.23:17
David-Aquasar: you mean replace unity with other desktop ui, or customize unity?23:17
quasarno, I mean replace it23:17
wilee-nileequasar, Other desktops are a command line away, what do you want?23:17
niargh12.04.2 - Persistent Update Manager error - see http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872546/23:18
quasarI dont know, gnome23:18
quasar?23:18
quasarjust want to ask which desktop environment is beeter?23:18
wilee-nileequasar, The gnome 2like fallback or the gnome-shell?23:18
David-Aquasar: there is a standard alternative called "classic" something in ubuntu, but there are other desktop ui's you can install from the software center, e.g. xfce23:18
exportquasar do you want something lightweight? or would you rather a lot of eyecandy?23:19
wilee-nileefallback is it's name partner, in a country western voice23:19
usr13energizer: I got the fstab entry wrong.23:19
quasarsomething more productive than unity23:19
quasarbecause right now Im not very happy with it23:19
Guest78941nobody answer???23:20
quasarI cant do stuff fast23:20
exportwell you can always change it :) quasar it just depends on what your personal preference is23:20
quasarI´ll try xfce someone said it23:20
quasarthanks23:21
Guest78941where can i find help for edubuntu???23:21
wilee-nileequasar, that and lxde is even lighter are good.23:21
mdelhey all - i have my bluetooth headset paired and ready to go, but I'm unable to get the proper sound settings to use23:21
niarghWhy am I getting this error: W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release amd64 (20130213)/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs23:21
David-Aquasar: the most common alternatives to unity in ubuntu are "fallback"-something (as it may be called), KDE, and Xfce.23:21
usr13energizer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872555/23:22
wilee-nileeniargh, That from a update?23:22
exportniargh looks like you have a cdrom repo in your sources.list23:22
wilee-nileeyep23:22
samertmhey23:22
quasarok, thanks :)23:22
niarghwilee-nilee, export: ah, how can I remove it?23:22
samertmso i'm signed into skype, but I closed skype's window and I don't know how to get it back23:22
wilee-nileeniargh,  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  put a # in front if the notation.23:23
energizerThanks for all your help usr323:23
exportyeah what he said^ XD23:23
niarghwilee-nilee: thanks!23:23
energizerusr 1323:23
samertmand opening up skype again opens up a new window, and when I try to sign in it tells me it's already running23:23
wilee-nileeniargh, No problem then run sudo apt-get update to get it set.23:23
niarghwill do thx!23:24
samertmhow can I open skype if it's running in the background?23:24
exportand it looks like you could uncomment it and then put in the install disk you used to install ubuntu and you could use that as a source if its mounted niargh23:24
niarghexport: got it. thanks23:25
exportno prob XD23:25
occi had windows on my ultrabook and wifi was good, but since installing ubuntu the wifi disconnects every minute..... will downloading the windows driver and using ndiswrapper fix the problem?23:27
occand if i did that, would i have to remove the driver ubuntu uses for it first? because the wifi is detected so a driver is obviously already assigned23:29
wilee-nileeocc, run lspci and find the card and post it for the channel.23:30
exporthey wilee-nilee, you think the windows driver or the proprietary driver(if any) would be better?23:31
wilee-nileeexport, Context?23:31
exportocc's question23:32
occi think its a Qualcomm Atheros AR5BMD222, im double checking now23:32
goddardhow do i configure openvpn?23:33
occi might get disconnected. when my laptop tries to connect and disconnects, my router dosnt like it and disconnects my pc from wifi too23:33
occok the wifi card is: atheros ar946223:34
wilee-nileeexport, I would'nt really know, however the channel needs details on the hardware, proprietary can been seen attached to stuff from the ubuntu repo, but in general I see it as from the manufacturer...etc. Use depends on the variables of whats best, and is the user willing to deal with it if say it doe not follow udates...etc.23:34
rypervencheocc: sudo lspci -nn | grep Network23:36
goddardmy network icon isn't in my top panel23:37
goddardhow can i start it?23:37
occryper that returns: atheros communications inc. ar9462 wireless network adapter [168c:0034] (rev 01)23:37
occand "02:00.0 Network controller [02:80]" just before that23:38
aaron__i am trying to add items with right click in nautilus but it does not work23:39
rypervencheocc: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2133296&page=323:39
rypervencheocc: Take a look at that entire thread. I think they basically have you update your wireless driver using compat-wireless.23:40
occok ill look. thanks23:40
mouseguyhello23:40
rsvpdroidhi23:42
seinI'm using Linux mint, but i installed unity (cry) and it won't show up on the session selection on gdm, the lm help channel was useless23:42
ceilwhy on earth would you install unity?23:42
mouseguyI've just downloaded ubuntu 13.04 and was looking to make the switch from win7 but I'm facing an issue with my Saphira mouse, whilst the pointer works none of the buttons do (including left/right click). Google provided only one forum entry with someone facing a similar issue and the problem was isolated down to the way kernel 3.3+ treats usb devic23:42
mouseguyes. How do I go about making my mouse work?23:42
seinceil: just curious23:42
ceilmeh. good luck with it. i immediately install gnome-shell on a fresh install of ubuntu :p23:43
mouseguyapparently the mouse works fine in kernel 3.2 but not above23:43
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occso is this where i compile the compat-wireless driver from? http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable23:45
mouseguymore info about it here (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=156923) i'm not a dev or anything so I don't really know how to easily fix this mouse issue :(23:45
occi dont understand all this kernel and backports stuff23:46
occam i likley to have more luck if i just buy a wifi usb stick23:47
aaron_i have installed pastebin in nautilus but it does not show with the right click..23:47
mouseguywas hoping someone who has had similar issues with non-standard mice not registering buttons would weigh in23:47
shankstaByteshow can i reinstall my network manager applet ?23:47
shankstaBytesits missing23:47
shankstaBytesanyone?23:47
Daughainmouseguy, Whats the issue?23:48
mouseguypointer works, none of the buttons do (including left/right)23:48
mouseguymore info about it here from someone who had the same problem (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=156923) i'm not a dev or anything so I don't really know how to easily fix this mouse issue :(23:48
aaron_shankstaBytes, from where is missing?23:48
mouseguyapparently it has to do with the way kernel 3.3 registers usb devices23:49
mouseguymouse works fine under kernel 3.223:49
mouseguyaccording to the forum23:49
DaughainOh, I dont use usb mice......Sorry.23:49
mouseguyaw shucks23:49
mouseguythanks anyway23:49
CaseyDaughain: PS/2?23:50
wilee-nileeshankstaBytes, Did you remove the app?23:50
DaughainCasey, wifi23:50
CaseyDaughain: trackin23:50
shankstaByteswilee-nilee: i must have some how23:50
mouseguyDaughain: is it a microsoft one?23:51
shankstaByteswilee-nilee: i dont remember where or how i did that23:51
aaron_shankstaBytes, do you have notification area in the panel ?23:51
shankstaBytesaaron_: the top right where the network applet normally sits23:51
shankstaBytesno23:51
wilee-nileeshankstaBytes, might be off try this first. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155998723:51
shankstaBytesthats the applet right?23:51
shankstaBytesthe program in the settings is still there23:51
aaron_shankstaBytes, try to add it23:51
shankstaBytesno process found wilee-nilee23:52
shankstaBytesaaron_: is it network-manager-gnome?23:52
aaron_shankstaBytes, yes23:53
FiremanE2‎firemaned223:53
studiouswhat is ubottu?23:54
wilee-nileeshankstaBytes, here is some info if needed to get it back, if you have no Ethernet. http://askubuntu.com/questions/55805/how-do-i-re-install-network-manager-without-an-internet-connection23:54
studiousas mentioned in the channel title23:54
SonikkuAmerica!ubottu | studious23:54
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aaron_wilee-nilee, as i understand he says that he can't see the icon in the taskbar23:54
aaron_wilee-nilee, no that the network is completely gone23:55
shankstaBytesaaron_: we are back in business23:55
wilee-nileeaaron_, Yes, but testing if it there at all does not show it if hew rans the commands corectly.23:55
shankstaByteswilee-nilee: thanks i didn't have the package23:55
shankstaByteswilee-nilee: i must of removed it when testing KDE stuff23:55
aaron_shankstaBytes, wilee-nilee ;:O23:55
aaron_wilee-nilee, nice23:56
wilee-nileeaaron_, It happened to me once, lol.23:56
aaron_wilee-nilee, i've got a question i am using nautilus action configuration tool,i added a program  but when i right click nothing apperas23:57
wilee-nileeshankstaBytes, It happens, used to be a real pain to get it fixed.23:57
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dnf0sqNeed help! ssh -X localhost -> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.23:57
wilee-nileeaaron_, Not sure really, I have limited skills, I only know what I have had to do and some other stuff like grub, and what I have retained from luking the IRC and ubuntu forums.23:58
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wilee-nileeI'm an armchair fan, my actual studies are not really related23:59
aaron_wilee-nilee, look at this http://slavsan.deviantart.com/art/conky-black-transparency-18727104923:59
dnf0sqNeed help! ssh -X localhost -> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.23:59
aaron_wilee-nilee, ya beauty :D23:59

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