[00:00] <zryan> after this command (gksu nautilus) error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5869643/
[00:00] <Meeken> Jason_Hudson: By someone trusted within the ubuntu community, like you just mentioned
[00:00] <Jason_Hudson> Meeken, no, they would have no reason to, as it's not in the repositories.
[00:01] <Meeken> Jason_Hudson: So you don't know if it is trustworthy or not?
[00:01] <Jason_Hudson> Meeken, I don't care as I would just use what the repositories offer me if I ever was to use Tor. :P
[00:01]  * Serelijah can finally see the light of knowing how apt-get works
[00:01] <Meeken> Jason_Hudson: Aren't there packages or repostories or something outside of software center?
[00:02] <Jason_Hudson> Meeken, software center is just a front-end, most (if not all) of the stuff you get from there should come from Ubuntu's repositories.
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> Meeken, two top apps, honestly why are you messing with tor, anonymity is not really possible, especially if others want info. http://imagebin.org/264338
[00:04] <Meeken> Jason_Hudson: Besides remembering someone telling me software center doesn't contain all packages, I have been told to use apt get name commands before not found in software center
[00:04] <williamtdr> new question
[00:04] <Jason_Hudson> Meeken, apt-get gets stuff from Ubuntu's repositories.
[00:05] <Jagst3r15> what are the official dev tools for Ubuntu please?
[00:05] <DoverMo> Meeken, apt-get is included in ubuntu's core system. if you havent installed the synaptic package manager yet, you should
[00:05] <williamtdr> when I run in ssh: /home/lbuser/startup.sh, it executes. when I put in crontab for root: @reboot /home/lbuser/startup.sh nothing happens when the system reboots.
[00:05] <Meeken> Jason_Hudson: In which case, i think there are repositories not shown by software center
[00:05] <Meeken> DoverMo: I think you got the wrong end of the stick there/are misunderstanding the conversation
[00:06] <DoverMo> Meeken, oh
[00:06] <Jason_Hudson> Meeken, Software Center should have access to every repo apt has access to.
[00:06] <Meeken> Jason_Hudson: Are you speaking from more then theory?
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> Jagst3r15, There a number that people use, get specific if you want any help.
[00:07] <Jason_Hudson> Meeken, I have seen paid apps in the Software Center, which you shouldn't be able to get using apt-get, thus Software Center should have access to more stuff AND whatever apt-get has access to.
[00:08] <Jagst3r15> I am looking to develop webapps for ubuntu sir
[00:08] <Meeken> Jason_Hudson: What is your knowledge level and experience with ubuntu?
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> Jagst3r15, Cool, I'm not your help, I was just nudging you for details, that is the key here. ;)
[00:08] <williamtdr> could it be because I'm using a VPS?
[00:10] <w30>  williamtdr you run the script upon rhe boot up side or the shutdown side of reboot?
[00:10] <w30> rhe/the
[00:11] <williamtdr> w30: boot up.
[00:11] <mx8manger> is there any complinats about the 3.8.0-25-generic kernel my 3g huawei modem can connect to internet
[00:12] <mx8manger> cant
[00:12] <mx8manger> can't*
[00:12] <w30> williamtdr, maybe it's running to early try it in rc.local rc.local runs last in the boot up
[00:13] <jason_hudson> Meeken, it's decent, I get my stuff done, why? Are you going to hire me?
[00:13] <Meeken> jason_hudson:  For judging the accuracy of your information of course.
[00:14] <williamtdr> w30: where is rc.local located?
[00:14] <jason_hudson> Meeken, I only use apt, hardly ever used software centre...I know that software centre has access to apt's repos and its own (as it gives you access to paid apps that can't be managed by apt).
[00:15] <w30> depends on distro; try /etc/rc.local
[00:15] <jason_hudson> Meeken, this isn't the point though, TorBrowser ain't in any, so you're pretty much stuck with what apt gives you if you want software that got any eyeballing from the Ubuntu's community, although I'll have to tell you that I suspect Tor's maintainer is from Debian.
[00:17] <Meeken> jason_hudson:  Which probably means its trustworthy, right? Plus that some of its programming is in the repository, that probably means all of it is trustworthy?
[00:18] <jason_hudson> Meeken, the Ubuntu's repos are just a shelf where you go get your stuff, there isn't any programming there.
[00:18] <Serelijah> Can I scroll the terminal?
[00:18] <jason_hudson> Meeken, who do you trust more? A mixed team of Ubuntu (community and Canonical's) and Debian devs or TorProject's ones?
[00:21] <Meeken> jason_hudson:  Why are you putting it as either or? didn't you just say Tors maintainer is from debian? And if the mixed team have approved other tor software, the stuff not vetted is probably still safe?
[00:22] <jason_hudson> Meeken, TorBrowser comes from Tor devs themselves; Tor + Firefox etc comes from the softwares' devs AND Ubuntu/Debian's.
[00:22] <Meeken> jason_hudson: You said "I'll have to tell you that I suspect Tor's maintainer is from Debian."
[00:22] <jason_hudson> Meeken, I said that about Ubuntu's Tor package.
[00:23] <Ben64> !ot
[00:24] <Meeken> jason_hudson: What was your point of saying that?
[00:24] <Ben64> Meeken: take it to #offtopic or elsewhere
[00:25] <Meeken> This is about ubuntu ben
[00:26] <Ben64> this is for ubuntu support only, not for things generally related to ubuntu
[00:26] <Meeken> Ben64: Are you a ops?
[00:26] <Ben64> #ubuntu-offtopic exists for a reason. use it
[00:27] <Meeken> OK then, I will continue to seek support for my ubuntu and just ignore you
[00:28] <Meeken> jason_hudson
[00:28] <Meeken> Still there?
[00:31] <IdleOne> wether a user is an op or not makes no difference, he was trying to help you understand the channel rules. You should follow them please.
[00:31] <Meeken> Is it generally safe to say if a group has a bunch of packages approved for packaging, a program outside that is probably still safe, likely just something no one has gotten around to packaging?
[00:31] <Meeken> IdleOne: It matters if ben is commanding me to do things based on a incorrect interpretation of the rules
[00:32] <Meeken> I don't see what ben says as correct, and ben has about as much tact as a tack so I'm not inclined to pay him much mind either.
[00:33] <Meeken> Now a ops interpretation of rules is final, so it wouldn't matter how much ben rubs me the wrong way or how much I doubt him, so yeah, it matters
[00:33] <IdleOne> Meeken: Ben64 is very familiar with the channel rules. I haven't read the entire scroll back but I tend to suspect he is correct. Anyway it would be nice if you could keep commentary in here restricted to ubuntu support and move meta-discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:34] <Meeken> Fine, would you help me with my support inquiry then Idles?
[00:34] <olsonea> still trying to figure out why my delete key is typing a number 1 instead of deleting
[00:35] <olsonea> anyone got any ideas
[00:35] <Noize__> Hello, I'd like to either flash my bios or update it... Secure boot is kicking me in the butt, what or how can I go about doing this?
[00:35] <Meeken> That sounds like a keyboard issue
[00:35] <olsonea> Meeken: i created a new test user, and the key worked as expected, so i think it's a configuration issue
[00:35] <olsonea> i did change the default mapping back to us
[00:35] <Meeken> olsonea: The old standby of computer testing, replace and try. Try another keyboard on that PC, or try that keyboard on another PC
[00:36] <Meeken> olsonea: Ah, no idea then
[00:36] <OerHeks> Noize__, update UEFI/secure boot? see the site of your computerbrand.
[00:38] <Noize__> OerHeks, I am currently on it yet unable to find it
[00:38] <kboodu> olsonea: There are a variety of tools to re-map keys.  xmodmap is just one, so you might see if it's in your .xinitrc file or something similar for your window manager.
[00:44] <Psil0cybin> Can someone help me fix this
[00:44] <Meeken> olsonea:  I had a similar issue with my ubuntu once. I accidentally messed up my desktop, I can't remember from where, maybe someone sent me something, but I got a file I just needed to click on that replaced it back with default. Maybe if you can find something similar for keyboard layout
[00:44] <Psil0cybin> Hey guys I just updated and I have this problem and cannot get into the GUI with the new update
[00:44] <Psil0cybin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/1200808
[00:44] <Psil0cybin> can someone help me please?
[00:44] <olsonea> thanks Meeken, kboodu
[00:44] <_44trent3> When I did the last command on this page to install proprieatary catalyst proprietary drivers. the page is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930450/. The error output was this: Selecting previously unselected package fglrx.
[00:44] <_44trent3> dpkg: regarding fglrx_8.961-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb containing fglrx:
[00:44] <_44trent3>  fglrx-legacy conflicts with fglrx
[00:44] <_44trent3>   fglrx (version 2:8.961-0ubuntu1) is to be installed.
[00:44] <_44trent3> dpkg: error processing fglrx_8.961-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--install):
[00:44] <FloodBot1> _44trent3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:44] <Meeken> olsonea: It would probably help those helping you, if you told em what you were doing before this happened, if you know
[00:44] <_44trent3>  conflicting packages - not installing fglrx
[00:44] <_44trent3> Selecting previously unselected package fglrx-amdcccle.
[00:44] <Meeken> !pastebin
[00:44] <Noize__> Is there a way to find out my motherboard information via terminal?
[00:44] <olsonea> Meeken: true. i don't recall the specific change that precipitated this however
[00:44] <_44trent3> Any ideas?
[00:44] <olsonea> i've lived with it for a while
[00:44] <OerHeks> Noize__, in terminal: sudo lshw
[00:44] <kboodu> Noize__: dmesg will show some things.  lshw some additional descriptions.
[00:44] <Meeken> olsonea: Are you due for a update? Perhaps you can fresh install ubuntus newest version and have it fixed, and if it isn't fixed after that, at least you know its a setting in /home
[00:45] <kboodu> Meeken: Since he created a new user and the keyboard worked correctly (from what he posted), then it's probably something in the configuration for the user account.
[00:45] <olsonea> Meeken: just updated to 13.04 yesterday
[00:45] <Meeken> kboodu: And those are stored in /home I take it?
[00:45] <kboodu> Meeken: Specifically in ~/
[00:46] <kboodu> Meeken: But it may be one of the files somewhere in ~/.config/ or another dot file in the home directory.
[00:46] <Meeken> kboodu: What is ~ short for again?
[00:46] <olsonea> i'm combing ~/.config at the moment
[00:47] <Psil0cybin> Can anyone help me
[00:47] <Psil0cybin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/1200808
[00:47] <Psil0cybin> After an Update i cannot get into my GUI
[00:47] <kboodu> olsonea: You might want to google 'keyboard mapping ubuntu' or something similar for the commands that would be re-mapping keys
[00:47] <Meeken> !ask Psil0cybin
[00:47] <Meeken> !ask
[00:48] <kboodu> Psil0cybin: Have you looked at the log files in /var/log?  Maybe start with /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors using the command line?
[00:49] <Meeken> kboodu: What is ~ short for again?
[00:49] <kboodu> Meeken: ~ is your accounts home directory.
[00:50] <OerHeks> short ~/ = /home/$USER/
[00:50] <kboodu> Meeken: If my username (based on /etc/passwd) is kboodu, then ~ would be /home/kboodu
[00:50] <kboodu> Better answer OerHeks!
[00:50] <Meeken> ty, both work fine, I was told before, but I forgot what it was
[00:51] <OerHeks> Psil0cybin, how did you install that driver, build manually?
[00:52] <Afflicto> Hey all. I have 3 hard drives on my PC. and one of them has win 7 on it, the rest is for storage. What's the best way to install ubuntu? I can't afford to lose anything tho.
[00:52] <Psil0cybin> No through the update maanger OerHeks
[00:52] <Afflicto> I was thinking wubi but I heard it's kinda slow.
[00:52] <Psil0cybin> kboodu, it showed me this crash report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/1200808https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/1200808
[00:52] <Psil0cybin> it seems to be something with the drivers but im a new ubuntu user
[00:52] <Psil0cybin> right now to get into my GUI i had to fall back to a previous version
[00:52] <Meeken> Afflicto: Do you want to duel boot with win7?
[00:52] <Psil0cybin> in the boot screen,
[00:52] <Afflicto> Meeken: Oh, I didn't say that. Yes I want dualboot :P
[00:52] <Psil0cybin> is there a way to uninstall an update
[00:52] <Psil0cybin> and keep back the working version?
[00:53] <Psil0cybin> because if I do not specifically pick the build it boots into the new updated version and leaves me in a terminal
[00:53] <Psil0cybin> and boots without a gui
[00:53] <kboodu> Psil0cybin: You can boot to an earlier kernel (if it's still installed in /boot).
[00:54] <Meeken> Afflicto: There are a number of ways to dual boot, keep in mind that linux and windows like very different FSs
[00:54] <Meeken> file systems
[00:54] <Psil0cybin> okay but how would I uninstall the new kernal so it auto boots into the working version
[00:54] <kboodu> Psil0cybin: But I'm not familiar enough with building the grub menu for that...
[00:54] <Afflicto> Meeken: yeah I've had some trouble with that before
[00:54] <Ben64> Psil0cybin: you should fix the problem instead of avoiding updates
[00:54] <Meeken> Afflicto: How much do you want to access the same files from either OS?
[00:54] <kboodu> Psil0cybin: I think you just want it automatically select the "older" kernel.  But you should fix the problem
[00:55] <Afflicto> Meeken: very much so. I like to go back and forth between win and ubuntu
[00:55] <kboodu> Psil0cybin: You need to look at why the module didn't install correctly.
[00:55] <Cards> I think you can just delete the update and load an older image.
[00:57] <Meeken> Afflicto: One option is to install ubuntu, then build win7 in a VM on top of it, or visa versa, it bypasses the issue of FS
[00:57] <Psil0cybin> Seems like Title: cedarview-drm 20120717-0ubuntu1: cedarview-drm kernel module failed to build
[00:57] <Psil0cybin>   Ben64 , kboodu ,
[00:58] <OerHeks> Afflicto, let win7 decrease your partition, and let the ubuntu installer use the free space
[00:58] <Afflicto> OerHeks: what do you mean decrease?
[00:59] <Ben64> Psil0cybin: i'm not familiar with that package, but make sure you have kernel headers for your kernel version installed
[00:59] <OerHeks> diskmanagment can handle decreasing partitions ( maing it smaller in a safe way)
[00:59] <kboodu> Psil0cybin: What is cedarview-drm?  Do you really need it?
[00:59] <Meeken> Afflicto: Do you have a UEFI motherboard? If not, linuxs GPT system will not work with windows7 I think. GPT makes partitioning so much simpler then the alternative, which I believe is MBR
[00:59] <Afflicto> Meeken: I have UEFI mobo. I have GUI with mouse etc in bios, that counts as yes doesn't it? :P
[00:59] <OerHeks> ubuntu can handle gpt
[00:59] <Psil0cybin> I am not sure but were would I remove it in the previous version or the new update
[01:00] <Psil0cybin> I am kinda new to linux thats why this problem seems a little scary to me
[01:00] <OerHeks> !uefi
[01:00] <Psil0cybin> All i did was update
[01:00] <kboodu> Psil0cybin: Do you have an Atom chip in your system?
[01:00] <OerHeks> meeken, please use fact, i am tired of correcting assumptions
[01:00] <Psil0cybin> yes
[01:00] <Psil0cybin> Intel Atom
[01:01] <Psil0cybin> what can I do
[01:01] <Meeken> Afflicto: OerHeks I don't know about that. resizing is troublesome. And it won't be GPT that way
[01:01] <kboodu> Psil0cybin: What version of Ubuntu?
[01:01] <Psil0cybin> 12.04
[01:01] <Psil0cybin> kboodu,
[01:02] <Psil0cybin> It has been perfectly stable till this update
[01:02] <Psil0cybin> I constantly updated it
[01:02] <Psil0cybin> just havent in the last week because I didnt use the laptop
[01:03] <Ben64> Psil0cybin: when did you install it originally?
[01:03] <kboodu> Psil0cybin: I don't know enough to help you further debug it.  If it's a known issue, maybe you'll get a patch with the next kernel update.
[01:03] <Meeken> Afflicto: I will have to dig through my notes and look through SE but, something like setting up your partitions with ubuntu/gpart from a live flash drive or disk in a specific way with UEFI in mind, then installing windows, then installing ubuntu. Windows destroys linuxs boot menu, that can be recreated but this bypasses it
[01:03] <Ben64> Psil0cybin: and when did you install cedarview-drm
[01:03] <Psil0cybin> Cedarview-drm has been installed since I started using the system
[01:04] <Psil0cybin> Okay if I need to wait till the next kernal update, would I keep using the Previous Version of ubuntu till the update icon pops up again
[01:04] <Psil0cybin> at the top?
[01:04] <Meeken> OerHeks: This is not a assumption, UEFI is required by win7 to handle GPT from what I recall
[01:04] <Ben64> Psil0cybin: and when did you install ubuntu?
[01:04] <Psil0cybin> a few months ago
[01:05] <Psil0cybin> actually in march
[01:05] <Psil0cybin> maybe april
[01:05] <Psil0cybin> like springish
[01:05] <Ben64> Psil0cybin: could you pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep -i linux"
[01:05] <Afflicto> Meeken: ok so I have to re-install win 7 then?
[01:05] <Psil0cybin> well right now im on a previous version of ubuntu
[01:05] <Psil0cybin> would that still help?
[01:05] <Ben64> Afflicto: no
[01:06] <Meeken> Afflicto: I don't know if a mouse in bios means UEFI, I don't think it does, you should specifically check your model of motherboard to see
[01:06] <kboodu> Psil0cybin: Is this Ubuntu or Xubuntu?
[01:06] <Psil0cybin> Xubuntu
[01:06] <Noize__> Well I have no Bios updates at all... And Lenovo does not help with downloading any bios updates, due to the fact that they do not recommend or support bios updating...
[01:06] <Ben64> Afflicto: you said you have multiple hard drives. you can install ubuntu to the 2nd or 3rd drive and not have to mess with the windows one at all
[01:06] <Noize__> well idk if i have any bios updates
[01:06] <Ben64> Psil0cybin: yeah it'd still help, it would show all the packages you have installed
[01:07] <Meeken> Afflicto: Yes, put your data on something else, win7 will have used MBR or whatever, not the preferred GPT, and you can't easily change this after the fact
[01:07] <Meeken> I mean preserve your data and prepare for a new install of stuff
[01:07] <kboodu> Psil0cybin: What does 'uname -a' show?
[01:07] <tgm4883> Meeken, I don't think UEFI is required for Windows 7 GPT disks
[01:08] <Psil0cybin> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/6esbiHPj
[01:08] <Afflicto> Meeken:I have UEFI yes. ok I'll put my stuff on a USB drive or my laptop then.
[01:08] <Psil0cybin> kboodu, Linux stashb0x 3.2.0-48-generic-pae #74-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 20:05:01 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[01:08] <Psil0cybin> this is the version that works
[01:08] <Psil0cybin> but its auto set to 49 or something
[01:08] <Psil0cybin> like that
[01:08] <Noize__> I'd like to update my bios, yet my computer brand doesnt have anything for bios updates... What can i do>?
[01:08] <Psil0cybin> so if i turn off my computer and turn it on, i will be stuck with a black screen or the manual terminal
[01:09] <kboodu> Psil0cybin: You reported that it's for version -49 and you're running -48.  Sounds like there's a mismatch someplace - like you don't have the correct kernel
[01:09] <tgm4883> Noize__, uh, why do you want to update your bios?
[01:09] <Psil0cybin> no no no
[01:09] <Psil0cybin> 49 is the version I cannot get into
[01:09] <Serelijah> "apt-get install xterm" "xterm is already the newest version" "unknown terminal type: xterm" Something is not right here.
[01:09] <Psil0cybin> im runinng 48 because Its the only version where i can see the GUI
[01:09] <Psil0cybin> if i log into 49
[01:09] <Noize__> tgm4883, Secure boot is a pain in the butt...
[01:09] <Psil0cybin> i get a manual terminal
[01:09] <Psil0cybin> and there is no GUI
[01:09] <Psil0cybin> so i had to restart and go back to 48 to be able to connect right now
[01:09] <Noize__> My bios is incomplete i feel as well
[01:10] <Psil0cybin> all i can do with 49 is type startx to start gnome
[01:10] <tgm4883> Noize__, well then A) you don't have a BIOS to update, and B) then turn it off?
[01:10] <Psil0cybin> i dont know the commands for xubuntu
[01:10] <Noize__> tgm4883, that is the issue... There isn't an option to turn it off >.<
[01:10] <kboodu> Psil0cybin: What?
[01:10] <kboodu> Are you running Gnome or Xfce?
[01:10] <Psil0cybin> Xfce
[01:10] <mastr[x]bennett> hey guys. I have an error which is saying "No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already"
[01:10] <tgm4883> Noize__, :(
[01:10] <tgm4883> Noize__, what laptop?
[01:11] <Noize__> tgm4883, that is why i'm looking for an update... My brand Lenovo doesnt support/recommend Bios updates... So i can't find a link for it
[01:11] <mastr[x]bennett> i don't have a /var/crash with any files though.
[01:11] <Noize__> tgm4883, Lenovo Ideapad Z570
[01:11] <mastr[x]bennett> would anyone here be able to tell me what's going on?
[01:11] <Psil0cybin> kboodu, Xfce, after the update with the new version 49, It would not let me see any GUI
[01:11] <Ben64> Psil0cybin: could you pastebin "df -h" and "ls /boot"
[01:11] <Psil0cybin> it would take me directly into the terminal
[01:11] <kboodu> Psil0cybin: So you have multiple Window Managers installed?
[01:11] <mastr[x]bennett> it seems that "apport" is misbehaving. but what is it? should I just uninstall it (this is a server)?
[01:11] <Noize__> tgm4883, I have an Emerald Lake Motherboard
[01:12] <Psil0cybin> http://pastebin.com/a9JEeVDQ
[01:12] <tgm4883> mastr[x]bennett, I didn't think apport was installed on Ubuntu server
[01:12] <Psil0cybin> http://pastebin.com/6H8thBsT
[01:12] <Psil0cybin> ben64
[01:12] <Psil0cybin> yes multiple managers
[01:12] <Psil0cybin> but I only want Xfce
[01:13] <coolstar> how do I search with in the contents of files inside a folder
[01:13] <coolstar> I'd prefer being able to do this in Nautilus, although Terminal's ok for me
[01:13] <Psil0cybin> I know
[01:14] <kboodu> Psil0cybin: And you have nothing in your ~/.xsession-errors file?
[01:14] <mastr[x]bennett> tgm4883 you're correct.
[01:14] <tgm4883> Noize__, sorry, I'm not finding anything :/
[01:14] <mastr[x]bennett> the package that i'm trying to install is iptables-persistent. it gives me that error after i get through the configuration.
[01:15] <Ben64> Psil0cybin: ok, it does actually seem like a bug or something, give me like 5 mins to set up a VM to check :)
[01:15] <tgm4883> mastr[x]bennett, iptables...why..... nm
[01:15] <tgm4883> !info apport | mastr[x]bennett
[01:15] <Noize__> tgm4883, yeah i know :/ This is my third time re-install Ubuntu... This time it's the worst, i'm total lost on the Secure boot situtation
[01:15] <Psil0cybin> Yea but i feel like its just for my aspire one
[01:15] <tgm4883> Noize__, are you using 13.04?
[01:16] <Noize__> tgm4883, yupp
[01:16] <tgm4883> Noize__, I'm out of ideas then :/ I disabled secureboot on my laptop
[01:16] <tgm4883> Noize__, there isn't an option for legacy mode?
[01:16] <mastr[x]bennett> not the iptables package, iptables-persistent. it's an init script which is supposed to save iptable rules and load them again at startup.
[01:16] <Noize__> tgm4883, not to my knowledge
[01:17] <Meeken> Afflicto:  A additional point to what I said before, you use gpart to built your partition table first, but leave some empty space for windows 7 to carve out itself from what I recall.
[01:17] <tgm4883> mastr[x]bennett, yea, I don't understand why you don't use UFW
[01:17] <Noize__> tgm4883, the othertimes i did this i just used repair boot to fix it
[01:17] <Ben64> Psil0cybin: did you install ubuntu and put on xfce, or installed xubuntu?
[01:17] <Noize__> tgm4883, this time the repair boot has changed and i'm unsure what to select
[01:17] <mastr[x]bennett> tgm4883 because I want iptables. not ufw.
[01:18] <Psil0cybin> installed Ubuntu
[01:18] <tgm4883> mastr[x]bennett, ah ok, so then no technical reason then
[01:18] <Psil0cybin> then
[01:18] <Psil0cybin> went sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:18] <mastr[x]bennett> tgm4883 nope. i want to write the rules by hand and learn the syntax.
[01:18] <Pinkamen1_D> my wireless will not disconnect or connect to other networks. I have tried restarting network manager
[01:18] <Psil0cybin> maybe i should try
[01:18] <Psil0cybin> startxfce4
[01:18] <Psil0cybin> in terminal whne trying 49
[01:18] <Ben64> Psil0cybin: nah, thats not good stuff
[01:18] <Psil0cybin> sigh
[01:18] <Ben64> you can mess up your x session by doing that kind of thing
[01:19] <Afflicto> Meeken: you mean gparted? cause I have used it. I used it to fix something. I didn't know much of what I was doing tho just followed a guide or something :P
[01:19] <kboodu> Psil0cybin: Please don't use Enter for punctuation.  It makes it hard to follow.
[01:19] <tgm4883> mastr[x]bennett, iptables on ubuntu doesn't read from a conf file?
[01:19] <FloodBot1> Psil0cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:19] <Psil0cybin> so is it cedarview?
[01:19] <Meeken> Afflicto: Yes I do mean gparted, just abbreviating :p
[01:19] <Ben64> Psil0cybin: the problem is that it's looking for `/boot/config-3.2.0-49-generic' when you have generic-pae
[01:20] <Ben64> Psil0cybin: setting up a vm to see if 32 bit ubuntus have both the -generic and -generic-pae installed, you may just have too many headers
[01:20] <Pinkamen1_D> network manager is not responding to any button presses, basically
[01:20] <Meeken> Afflicto: lIke I said, a live load (usb is better) to run gpart from works fine
[01:20] <Psil0cybin> oh okay! so would it be easy to fix hypathetically ben64
[01:20] <mastr[x]bennett> tgm4883 not that i'm aware of for 12.04
[01:21] <Ben64> Psil0cybin: i mean you can try it yourself, but if it wants to remove more than just the headers, abandon that plan
[01:21] <Meeken> Afflicto:  that same live can also be used to install from latter, and you can also use it to try it out if your not sure what flavor of ubuntu to use
[01:21] <Afflicto> Meeken: alright. I'm in the process of backing up stuff from about 2 years of work so it'll take some time :P
[01:21] <Pinkamen1_D> any ideas?
[01:21] <tgm4883> mastr[x]bennett, ok, so back to your original question, do you have files in /var/crash/
[01:21] <tgm4883> mastr[x]bennett, actually, http://askubuntu.com/questions/31667/what-does-no-apport-report-written-because-maxreports-is-reached-already-mean
[01:22] <Psil0cybin> Ben64 im late to pick up my girlfriend from work could you write what you just wrote here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162038&p=12729118#post12729118 so the second i get home I can follow anything you figured out
[01:22] <mastr[x]bennett> tgm4883 been there :-) i have no /var/crash directory
[01:22] <Ben64> Psil0cybin: sure thing
[01:22] <tgm4883> mastr[x]bennett, /tmp apport files then?
[01:22] <Psil0cybin> thank you so much your the best!! im goinjg totry and fix this issue in a few hours
[01:22] <Psil0cybin> once i cook the kids some food
[01:22] <Psil0cybin> and will have some time to my self
[01:22] <kboodu> Psil0cybin: Good luck.
[01:22] <Psil0cybin> thank you kboodu !
[01:22] <Psil0cybin> ill be back shortly
[01:23] <mastr[x]bennett> tgm4883 not a thing in there
[01:23] <tgm4883> mastr[x]bennett, plenty of disk space on ALL your partitions?
[01:24] <mastr[x]bennett> tgm4883 remember apport isn't installed on this system. so there's no reason for apport files to exist
[01:24] <mastr[x]bennett> and yes, there is sufficient space
[01:24] <Phys> Greetings.
[01:24] <tgm4883> mastr[x]bennett, can you pastebin the full error message and surrounding lines?
[01:25] <Phys> I need your help guys.
[01:25] <tgm4883> mastr[x]bennett, and also 'dpkg -l apport'
[01:26] <Phys> I want to install an amd driver from init 3 level and I get an error: 'sax2 is not a typo...' What should I do? Install a sax2 package?
[01:27] <Ben64> init 3 doesn't do what you think it does
[01:27] <mastr[x]bennett> tgm4883: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5869787/
[01:27] <Phys> Ben64: What you mean?
[01:28] <Meeken> tgm4883: OerHeks http://paste.ubuntu.com/5869791/
[01:28] <Ben64> Phys: init 3 doesn't do anything, what are you trying to do specifically?
[01:29] <Meeken> So you were wrong, I was right OerHeks :p
[01:29] <tgm4883> Meeken, keep it civil
[01:29] <tgm4883> mastr[x]bennett, yea, that is weird
[01:30] <Phys> Ben64: Install the amd driver. After install I ran sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx, and I got an error..
[01:32] <OerHeks> Meeken there must be some confusion here, i stated ubuntu can handle gpt, so both are right.
[01:32] <OerHeks> see gdisk an gparted afaik, fdisk does not handle gpt.
[01:33] <Meeken> OerHeks: I never said ubuntu couldn't handle gpt, the topic is dual booting with win7
[01:34] <Noize_> OerHeks, I do have USB Legacy enable/disable
[01:34] <Noize_> OerHeks, do I want that enabled or disabled?
[01:35] <randomaussie> morning all... i'm treying to put gnome3 on my ubuntu13.04 and all the guide i'm following that i can google down i get getting "failed to fetch errors"... anyone know of a working guide or have adive for me?
[01:36] <Meeken> randomaussie: Isn't unity built on gnome 3, thus gnome 3 already present?
[01:36] <mastr[x]bennett> tgm4883: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2076892 it's a package bug it seems
[01:37] <randomaussie> meeken: i dont know what unity is based off... i just want hte ordinary gnome3 desktop.. i dont like unity
[01:38] <OerHeks> Noize_, enabled, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[01:38] <tgm4883> mastr[x]bennett, thats what I was thinking, but the pizza guy came
[01:38] <Ben64> Phys: ok... so whats sax2
[01:39] <mastr[x]bennett> tgm4883 is there any way to skip dpkg trying to configure?
[01:39] <Meeken> randomaussie: Are you sure you don't mean gnome 2? I like gnome 2 myself, might try xfce
[01:39] <Meeken> or perhaps mate
[01:40] <Meeken> I don't believe gnome 3 is that different from unity, from what I have read
[01:40] <randomaussie> meeken:honestly i'm not sure what i mean... but i dont like hte interface for unity.. so i'm trying to get the gnome desktop to install and i keep getting failed to fetch errors
[01:41] <Ben64> randomaussie: pastebin exactly what you're typing and the resulting error
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, The gnome shell?
[01:41] <tgm4883> mastr[x]bennett, you might be able to download the package and use dpkg to force the install
[01:42] <Meeken> randomaussie: What I am saying is, you might not like gnome 3 either, if you don't like unity. So you might want to try to get a different Desktop Environment then that
[01:43] <anything> Does anyone know how to use parted magic to convert an NTFS partition to ext4 without loosing data?
[01:44] <Ben64> anything: backup, format, restore
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> anything, I don't believe possible safely. what is on the ntfs?
[01:44] <randomaussie> ok.. was following this guide... http://www.itworld.com/software/358052/install-gnome-shell-38-ubuntu-1304
[01:44] <anything> Ben64: I was told there was an automated process, where it would resize empty space as ext4, copy data over, then shrink ntfs partition, then resize ext4, then copy more data, etc. In an automated way
[01:44] <randomaussie> when i do an apt-get update i got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5869821/
[01:44] <Ben64> randomaussie: we can't support ppa software here, sorry
[01:45] <randomaussie> oh ok
[01:45] <randomaussie> can you point me to a guideto install the gnome3 shell then please
[01:45] <Ben64> randomaussie: gnome-shell is in the default repositories though, if you wanted to use that
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, THe shel is in the repos, run ppa-purge and purge the ppa in that link and then run sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[01:46] <randomaussie> thank you red guys.. will try all that
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> randomaussie, You have added a ppa remove that with ppa-purge before doing the install.
[01:46] <Ben64> randomaussie: also, it looks like your repositories for ubuntu are broken. you should use a different one
[01:48] <delinquentme> does anyone have pics of the new UI???
[01:49] <randomaussie> ben64: nothing should be broken... this is a completely fresh/clean install of ubuntu13.04 straight from usb and should be fully updated (afaik)
[01:49] <Ben64> randomaussie: its not your fault, either your internet or the au server for ubuntu is down
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> delinquentme, http://unity.ubuntu.com/
[01:50] <delinquentme> wilee-nilee, I mean Mir
[01:50] <Ben64> randomaussie: Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com raring-updates/main Sources   503  Service unavailable [IP: 202.158.214.106 80]
[01:50] <delinquentme> fo 13
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> delinquentme, Never seen one, it will be in 13.10 as xmir, ask in #ubuntu+1.
[01:53] <randomaussie> ben64: ok... i'lll work out to use a different repository
[01:53] <randomaussie> thanlks
[02:11] <guidemario> hi there ... is possible to create a simple bash script file to be ran by clicking on the file instead of opening the terminal and executing through there?
[02:13] <Adonis_> Cam
[02:13] <SonikkuAmerica> guidemario: Just [ chmod +x ] the file to be run (there is a graphical frontend for it if you right-click the file, select Properties, and then select the Permissions tab.) You must own the file to change permissions on it.
[02:13] <tgm4883> guidemario, you should already be able to do that if it's marked executable
[02:14] <guidemario> it's already as executable, but when i click on it, it opens the text editor to edit the lines of the code instead of running the script
[02:15] <SonikkuAmerica> guidemario: Did you restart, log out and back in, or [ source ~/.bashrc ] after you changed the permissions?
[02:16] <guidemario> no, i did not logout or did anything, just changed the permission and tried to execute it
[02:16] <guidemario> I'll restart my pc and see if it works
[02:17] <fuzzybunny69y> hey guys I have two folders and I want to make sure that everything that is in folder 1 is in folder 2 and everything that is in folder 2 is in folder 1. Does anyone know how I would do this with rsync?
[02:18] <Ben64> fuzzybunny69y: rsync -avP 1/* 2/; rsync -avP 2/* 1/
[02:19] <fuzzybunny69y> thanks Ben64
[02:33] <PyR3X> what is the best way to add file permission for 'other' and them be the same as for 'user' and 'group'? i.e. things in /path/to/bin/myfile is r-xr-x--- and i want it to be r-x-r-x-r-x but files in say /path/to/afile is r--r----- and i want it to be r--r--r--
[02:34] <SonikkuAmerica> PyR3X: Use [ chmod 444 ] in your example.
[02:34] <SonikkuAmerica> PyR3X: Or for +r and +x, use [ chmod 555 ]
[02:35] <PyR3X> SonikkuAmerica: I want to recursively do this for a directory but mimick the permissions that were already set for say group on the file and make them for other as well
[02:35] <SonikkuAmerica> PyR3X: It's the same for directories... but to also do it on all files inside the directory, cd to the directory and [ chmod 555 * ]
[02:36] <SonikkuAmerica> (For +r and +x)
[02:36] <skath_> PyR3X, chmod -R o=g /path
[02:36] <PyR3X> SonikkuAmerica: but some files in the directory are 440 and same are 550.. I want to make files that are 440, 444, and files that are 550 555
[02:36] <PyR3X> skath_: thanks
[02:37] <SonikkuAmerica> PyR3X: What skath_  said should do the trick to *assign* group permissions to owner permissions.
[02:37] <PyR3X> SonikkuAmerica: yes that's what I was looking for thank you
[02:38] <SonikkuAmerica> PyR3X: Yep. There you are. (Just providing the details.) :D
[02:42] <randomaussie> ben64: thanks but i change my repository to the main server and everything seems to be working properly now
[02:42] <randomaussie> bud****
[02:48] <lahwran> how do you install ubuntu on a computer (lenovo t430) with windows 8 preinstalled and a whacky partition table type?
[02:49] <lahwran> file claims: /dev/sdb: x86 boot sector; partition 1; id=0xee, starthead 0, startsector 1, <bignumber> sectors, extended partition table (last)\011, code offset 0x0
[02:49] <lahwran> (the file command, that is)
[02:52] <joshc133> Is this the channel for general Ubuntu chat or support?
[02:52] <lahwran> support
[02:52] <joshc133> Thanks.
[02:53] <Psil0cybin> Ben64, So ..... now randomly it works every 3rd restart...how random is that when I turn off my computer and keep trying eventually it works
[02:53] <Psil0cybin> just its not on every time, like if i shut it down now and try again im sure it will show the terminal login screen instead of the GUI
[02:54] <Psil0cybin> now im in 49 but i feel like its not stable
[02:54] <Psil0cybin> because it doesnt work as expected every time
[02:54] <Art12345> How do I get an image file of the 'copy' and the 'move' icons in Unity??? This is the little hand symbol that pops up when you left click on a folder and hold the left mouse switch closed. If the file is being copied, the hand symbol includes a small plus sign, if being moved, it changes to a small arrow.  It is that image that I want to capture.
[02:57] <Gilligan94> !pastebin
[03:00] <KriShaNsin> hey, I decided to get a new computer to run saucy salamander on. Unity is quite resource intensive for this netbook here so i got a Lenovo Thinkpad x220 i7 2640m 2.8ghz 8gb RAm 160ssd. is this gonna be okay for running saucy salamander on?
[03:01] <kostkon> KriShaNsin, obviously
[03:01] <KriShaNsin> kostkon: woot :)
[03:04] <KriShaNsin> kostkon: I like it because its ugly as hell but under the hood it seems to have what i am going to need to take over the world. I live in thailand and dont want any haters glancing at my laptop. its so ugly that even my momma thought it was from the 90's.
[03:05] <kostkon> KriShaNsin, :P i think it looks fine
[03:05] <arch> hi everyone!, can someone help, i have a question about ubuntu
[03:05] <SonikkuAmerica> !ask | arch
[03:05] <bazhang> !ot | KriShaNsin
[03:06] <arch> haha thanks, its about mac cloning in the network, if it is cloned will anyone still find out what my mac address is?
[03:07] <Tobarja> Any suggestions on alternatives to gnome-terminal?
[03:07] <bazhang> Tobarja, apt-cache search term and have a look
[03:08] <bazhang> arch try ##networking
[03:09] <Tobarja> bazhang: I'll take a look, thanks.
[03:10] <kiwis> showing error while connected wifi, network service discovery disable. how to enable..
[03:13] <joshc133> I'm going to try to make this as simple as possible, and I would like to thank everyone beforehand. Thanks. The PC I will be referring to this is message is a Desktop PC with a UEFI motherboard, which originally had Windows 7 installed to an SSD, with the User folder moved to the HDD. I decided to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7. I did not use Wubi and I properly installed Ubuntu to the HDD. I made all the correct partition
[03:13] <joshc133> s and whatnot, but after the initial reboot, I could not boot into Ubuntu. I googled around and decided to boot into the LIVE CD and run boot-repair to fix my boot issues. It told me that it would completely uninstall any instances of GRUB on my SSD and HDD, and then put a copy of GRUB onto both drives. After running boot-repair and rebooting, I was able to boot into Ubuntu. I restarted the computer and attempted to boot into
[03:13] <joshc133> Windows 7, but after choosing it from the GRUB menu, it said "device not found". So here is where I am at now... I boot from HDD into either OS; reboot; "device not found" before GRUB loads, or after I choose Windows from the GRUB menu; change default boot to  SSD; boot into either OS perfectly fine; next reboot "device not found" before GRUB menu or after I choose Windows from GRUB menu; change default boot to HDD;;;; Wash, r
[03:13] <FloodBot1> joshc133: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:13] <joshc133> inse, repeat... I am not sure what is going on here. I am guessing that somehow one GRUB is messing with the other, but I can always boot from one disk or the other. If I get "device not found" error, I simply boot from the other disk, and it boots just fine into either OS. One disk always boots, it just changes each boot. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask. My answer
[03:13] <macwolf74> good god
[03:15] <coolstar> any developers here mind telling me what the "?=" operator does in a makefile?
[03:15] <kostkon> coolstar, better try in #ubuntu-app-devel
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> joshc133, Put that in a thread at the ubuntu forums with the bootinfo summary, yout bet help is there m-f daytime.
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> best
[03:17] <joshc133> wilee-nilee, Thanks much.
[03:29] <kiwis> how to chat with friends with terminal?
[03:30] <Tobarja> OmG23: can you be a little more specific, about what you're trying to accomplish?
[03:30] <strott> when looking at the properties of a drive (right-click -> properties from gui), is there a way to increase the sig figs displayed for storage capacity (ie see tens place # of GB with a TB drive)
[03:30] <OmG23> connect with orther laptop using terminal..
[03:31] <xangua> OmG23: that doesn't sound like 'chatting with friends'
[03:32] <joshc133> I have never had to use the Ubuntu forums before, but I have an issue that I need to post there. Is there a certain "sub-forum" I should post in, if I am having a GRUB/ boot issue?
[03:32] <OmG23> ?
[03:32] <strott> yes ?
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> joshc133, nope just to the main area, not exactly a grub issue
[03:34] <joshc133> Okay, thanks once again, wilee-nilee!
[03:34] <ChogyDan> anyone know why chrome stays open in the background?
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> ChogyDan, After closing, firefox does that once in awhile to.
[03:37] <ChogyDan> :/
[03:37] <Myrtti> ChogyDan: you Can disable that in the extensions settings
[03:38] <Myrtti> iirc
[03:38] <ChogyDan> Myrtti: ah cool, Ill check that out
[03:38] <we6jbo> Hello
[03:39] <ChogyDan> Myrtti: that did it, thanks
[03:39] <Myrtti> ChogyDan: np
[03:42] <Psil0cybin> Hey Guys I need your help I just ungraded my Xubuntu with all the recommended files
[03:42] <Psil0cybin> and now
[03:42] <Psil0cybin> when ever i start up my computer it either goes to just a plain terminal without a GUI or a blackscreen or works after a few restarts and finally shows me a GUI how can i diagnose my problem
[03:42] <Psil0cybin> it seems to not be stable and starts working randomly and doesnt work everytime it works every 4th restart or shutdown
[03:43] <ChogyDan> Psil0cybin: for gui issues like that I would start with /var/log/X.0.log
[03:44] <ChogyDan> Psil0cybin: sorry, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:44] <Psil0cybin> okay let me check
[03:45] <Psil0cybin> ChogyDan, this is what im getting http://pastebin.com/6TpBPqTG
[03:48] <ChogyDan> Psil0cybin: is that from a boot that did not work?
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
looks like you are missing your gui font size files
[03:56] <Psil0cybin> ChogyDan, no its from a boot when i finally got into the GUI
[03:56] <Psil0cybin> and was able to get to you guys
[03:56] <Psil0cybin> insmod, what can I do, it worked perfectly fine before...
[03:56] <Psil0cybin> and Its working now
[03:56] <Psil0cybin> but if i shut down and restart it wont work
[03:57] <ChogyDan> Psil0cybin: maybe save a copy from a boot that doesn't work.  The Xorg.0.log should be from just the latest boot, and if it is working...
just add all the font sizes and it should work
[03:58] <Psil0cybin> How do I add font sizes insmod im new to linux
[03:58] <Psil0cybin> and I think this is from when I just got in from the crash
[03:58] <Psil0cybin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/1200808
[03:58] <Psil0cybin> I think it might be caused by the cedarview-drm drivers that I had
[03:58] <Psil0cybin> could that be?
[04:01] <Casey> Trying to automount a raid1 volume during bootup. Can someone tell me if the last two lines (the raid volume) is type correctly in the fstab please  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5870022/
[04:02] <Psil0cybin> I posted a thread here
[04:02] <Psil0cybin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162063&p=12729242#post12729242
[04:02] <Psil0cybin> If anyone can help me id really appreciate it
[04:02] <Psil0cybin> I want my system to be stable again instead of resorting to  3.2.0-48-generic-pae
[04:02] <vriyer> ive been redirected here from ubuntu touch
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> !ask | vriyer
[04:04] <Casey> !patience | Casey
[04:04] <Casey> :D
[04:05] <vriyer> im compiling ubuntu touch for salsa. 800mHz processor. has anyone tried ubuntu touch on an 800mhz arm v6l processor?
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> vriyer: this is an ubuntu support channel mate
[04:06] <bazhang> #ubuntu-arm vriyer
how much ram you have
[04:07] <randomaussie> i feel this is a very stupid question.... i cant browse my windows box's from my ubuntu box after i reinstalled ubuntu... am i missing a package?
[04:08] <Casey> randomaussie: Samba?
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> randomaussie: what version of ubuntu did you have and wich you have now?
[04:08] <Casey> randomaussie: nvm, I read your question wrong.
[04:08] <randomaussie> Lotus:  have 12.10 before and i have 13.04 now
[04:08] <Psil0cybin> 1GB insmod
[04:09] <Psil0cybin> insmod: but everything worked perfectly fine till the update
[04:09] <Psil0cybin> Its a netbook
[04:09] <Psil0cybin> an Acer Aspire One
then that's it
[04:09] <Psil0cybin> So i cannot update?
[04:09] <Psil0cybin> i should stick with the older version?
[04:09] <Psil0cybin> I do not understand
[04:10] <Psil0cybin> I thought it was drivers
[04:10] <Psil0cybin> that were causing the problems, because I am after all here now
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> Psil0cybin: i have acer aspire one with 13.04 64bit and worsk flawless
 -pae is a kernel for over 4g of ram
 install a diff kernel
[04:11] <Psil0cybin> but 3.2.0-49-generic-pae
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> randomaussie: how did you browse your win box before?
[04:11] <Psil0cybin> i mean 3.2.0-48-generic-pae
[04:11] <Psil0cybin> worked perfectly fine
[04:11] <Psil0cybin> its only 3.2.0-49-generic-pae  that has a problem
[04:11] <Psil0cybin> i still had a pae
[04:11] <FloodBot1> Psil0cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:11] <Psil0cybin> kernal
 ya just a flook
[04:11] <randomaussie> lotus: file brower and clicked network.. and my windows box's showed... didnt have to open work group
 new kernel should do it
[04:12] <Psil0cybin> hjvcx
[04:12] <Psil0cybin> 0-[=]
[04:13] <Psil0cybin> so what do i do stick with the older kernal
[04:13] <Psil0cybin> but someone on here before told me to not do that and to diagnose and ifgure out the problem
[04:13] <Psil0cybin> im so confused now :(
[04:14] <Psil0cybin> insmod, are you sure https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/1200808 isnt the issue?
 i just did - install a new one or stick with old just if you install a new onw don't use -pae
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> randomaussie: maybe this can help: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/04/how-to-access-windows-network-shares-in-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/
[04:14] <Psil0cybin> insmod, how would I install a new one?
[04:14] <Psil0cybin> I have never done this before I am kinda new to linux
[04:15] <randomaussie> thank you lotus
[04:15] <Psil0cybin> Are you sure I dont use pae, I have always been using it...and it always worked fine this is the foirst I have heard about this
[04:15] <Psil0cybin> or had to deal with this issue
[04:15] <Psil0cybin> and I always Always update
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> !info nfs-kernel-server | randomaussie
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> randomaussie: maybe this package can solve network shares aswell
[04:19] <Psil0cybin> sigh
[04:21] <Casey> Can someone help me with automounting a raid1 on boot?
[04:21] <Psil0cybin> Can anyone please help me
[04:21] <Psil0cybin> I need to get this fixed i cannot deal with restarting over and over and hoping it works
[04:21] <bazhang> !helpme | Psil0cybin
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> !raid | Casey
[04:25] <Casey> lotus: checking these links out now. Thanks.
[04:32] <Psil0cybin> i9o]
[04:33] <Psil0cybin> Can anyone help me, I just updated my computer and after I did, it started to become unstable (every restart its agamble and sometimes it works other times the GUI doesnt load and i get into the console) What can i do to diagnose the problem i already posted on the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162067&p=12729257#post12729257
[04:35] <Casey> lotuspsychje: does it mater if the raid1 is from a controller card and not the MB sata ports?
[04:37] <holstein> Psil0cybin: i would try booting the older kernel, assuming you took a kernel upgrade
[04:38] <holstein> Psil0cybin: testing the memory is always a good idea when "odd" things are just happening seemingly randomly
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> Casey: check the ##hardware channel for your correct hardware configuration mate
[04:40] <Casey> lotuspsychje: Sorry I'm new to Ubuntu and just trying to learn about this stuff. I "tried" to follow the example that the fstab. file gave me but I was hoping someone could check my work.
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> Casey: you can always re-ask your question in this chat, once in a while with your pastebin link
[04:41] <Casey> lotuspsychje: True, but I think I'll call it a night. Try again tomorrow. Thanks for the help and tips.
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> Casey: np mate
[04:46] <Psil0cybin> holstein,
[04:46] <Psil0cybin> the older kernal works perfectly fine when i hit previous version of linux
[04:46] <Psil0cybin> but how do i make that my default
[04:46] <Psil0cybin> because if i do not specifically choose it
[04:47] <Psil0cybin> it doesnt boot
[04:47] <Psil0cybin> So would I always stick with the older kernal or still would I update? hoping that other kernal versions work better.
[04:48] <Psil0cybin> because all previous worked perfectly fine which is the most confusing part holstein
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> Psil0cybin: you come from an update or did you clean install?
[04:50] <Psil0cybin> Updated, through the desktop like it said I needed to update files so i updated them and after that I started exerpeicing problems
[04:50] <Psil0cybin> lotuspsychje,
[04:50] <Psil0cybin> My computer workedp erfectly fine untill I updated files that popped up in the software manager
[04:50] <Psil0cybin> Update Manager*
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> Psil0cybin: i had good experiences with clean install on my acer aspire one netbook
[04:50] <Psil0cybin> So its something to dow ith the update, and now the problem is
[04:50] <Psil0cybin> when I restart
[04:50] <Psil0cybin> 3.2.0-49-generic-pae,
[04:51] <Psil0cybin> doesnt work unless i Keep restarting then eventually it works
[04:51] <Psil0cybin> 3.2.0-48-generic-pae,
[04:51] <Psil0cybin> works fine
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> Psil0cybin: try what Holstein sugested mate
[04:51] <Psil0cybin> but i cannot set that as my default because now i have the newer update
[04:51] <Psil0cybin> I did and it works perfect
[04:51] <Psil0cybin> so how can I delete the update?
[04:51] <randomaussie> to you awesome people who suport us ubuntu noobs.... did you know i can stream a movie over my wifi and 1080p and have it replay perfectly... yet windows cannot..... fuck i love linux
[04:51] <Psil0cybin> and go back to the previous version and not deal with making sure I select the 48 version
[04:51] <randomaussie> umm sorry fo rmy language
[04:52] <Afflicto> Meeken: you there?
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> Psil0cybin: well you can boot into previous kernel, or trying to solve your specific issues on the updated kernel
[04:54] <Psil0cybin> Well i would love to solve the issue on the updated Kernal but i cannot figure it out and im pretty new to linux so i dont knowwhat to do unlesssomeone helps me
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> Psil0cybin: they way i would do it is clean install ubuntu, and see issues from there
[04:56] <Psil0cybin> Really
[04:56] <Psil0cybin> thats the only way?
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> Psil0cybin: then check all the /var/log/
[04:56] <Psil0cybin> I know a clean install would fix the issues
[04:56] <Psil0cybin> buttt
[04:56] <Psil0cybin> the second i clean install ill have to update again
[04:56] <Psil0cybin> ....and my problem will occur after again
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> Psil0cybin: no, this is not the only way, its how i would do it
[04:57] <AlexBTC> hi guys! What's up?
[04:58] <holstein> Psil0cybin: in those cases, i just boot the older kernels, and wait for updates, and test the new ones
[04:59] <Psil0cybin> okay
[04:59] <Psil0cybin> holstein,
[04:59] <Psil0cybin> thanks guys :) just stinks, could i set an older kernal as a default
[05:01] <holstein> Psil0cybin: you can literally do what you want, friend
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> Psil0cybin: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog.1 and fool around with your system a bit :p
[05:01] <holstein> Psil0cybin: you can delete, remove, uninstall the kernel that is newer that is not working with your hardware, and pin the kernel down.. you can change the order
[05:03] <Psil0cybin> holstein, how do I chang ethe order or delete the newest kernal?
[05:03] <Psil0cybin> Since its useless to be not working
[05:04] <Psil0cybin> also if I use the older kernal would I still be recieving updates?
[05:04] <holstein> Psil0cybin: if you update, you are updating
[05:04] <holstein> Psil0cybin: what would you like to do?
[05:05] <Psil0cybin> Want to swap the default linux version from 3.2.0-49-generic-pae, to 3.2.0-48-generic-pae,
[05:05] <Psil0cybin> so that if I am not quick enough to select it on boot it will work instead of booting into a bricked kernal
[05:05] <Psil0cybin> that just shows me a black screen or gives me a terminal console without a GUI
[05:05] <holstein> Psil0cybin: why not just remove the last one? and pin it.. or, just check when you update each time
[05:06] <holstein> !grub | Psil0cybin
[05:06] <Psil0cybin> Okay how would I delete the 3.2.0-49-generic-pae, kernal and use 3.2.0-48-generic-pae,
[05:06] <holstein> ^^ you can read there about how to change the order, or change the timer..
[05:06] <holstein> Psil0cybin: you can open the package manager of your choice and search for the package you would like to remove
[05:07] <Psil0cybin> What package manager do you recommend? holstein
[05:07] <randomaussie> hi again guys.. atuck at a window  that says at the top "authentication required" to install or remove software you need to authenticate... i put my password in and its been sitting htere thinking about it for 20 minutesnow
[05:07] <holstein> Psil0cybin: i just recommened the one of your choice.. the one you are most comfortable using
[05:07] <holstein> Psil0cybin: i like synaptic for a GUI one
[05:08] <Psil0cybin> Okay so would I boot back into the older kernal and remove the newer kernal because Now I am using the newer kernal but its a FLUKE that i got the GUI
[05:08] <Psil0cybin> like if i restarted right now it would not work
[05:08] <Psil0cybin> and i owuld be back to where i started looking at a black screen or just a console
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> randomaussie: in software centre?
[05:14] <qiyong_> should I use do-release-upgrade, or change the source.list and apt-get manually?
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !upgrade | qiyong_
[05:16] <holstein> Psil0cybin: i would try whatever you would like, in order to get the machine in a state you want it in.. i have no issue selecting the older kernel at boot, since i seldom reboot.. sometimes i let that slide for a while to see if a "fix" comes for my hardware
[05:19] <randomaussie> lotus: i was installing open ofice
[05:19] <hakunin> can somebody explain this detail to me?
[05:19] <qiyong_> lotuspsychje: it doesn't tell about apt-get upgrade
[05:19] <hakunin> when I run dist-upgrade - i get latest revision of kernel modules in /lib/modules
[05:19] <holstein> randomaussie: install libreoffice
[05:19] <qiyong_> do i have to use do-releaee-upgrade?
[05:20] <hakunin> Is there a way to get older /lib/modules?
[05:20] <hakunin> i get 12.04-49, but i need 12.04-45
[05:20] <randomaussie> holstein: i removed libre office because i use open office on my windows box
[05:20] <armando> hello :P
[05:20] <qiyong_> my box is 64bit, why it tries to fetch 386 pkgs?
[05:21] <holstein> hakunin: i usually look in synaptic for that.. there is a "force older version" option
[05:21] <hakunin> holstein: it's a server
[05:21] <hakunin> holstein: i don't have gui
[05:21] <holstein> randomaussie: you should use libre both places.. but there is no reason to regress
[05:21] <holstein> hakunin: synaptic just has an easy gui for it.. there are other ways
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> qiyong_, Sometimes there are no 64 bit packages check on that.
[05:22] <armando> my harddirive just died after instaliing xubuntu and formating my har drive with gparted, :P
[05:22] <holstein> hakunin: of course, that is assuming the older version is there.. in the repos
[05:22] <hakunin> holstein: hm, it's just the first time i encountered dist-upgrade command, i'm not sure which package actually installs /lib/modules, and how to get the right one
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> armando, what is the evidence that it died?
[05:22] <hakunin> holstein: will try do more research
[05:22] <holstein> hakunin: cheers
[05:23] <armando> i took it out and hook it up with a external hard drive case i have :P not even gparted loads it:P
[05:24] <holstein> armando: could still be a bad cable i suppose..
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> armando, Have you checked back in the computer? I have bought external enclosures that just did not work correctly all the time.
[05:24] <armando> its ok i got another hardrive todat 1 tlb :D
[05:25] <poiaufPqwer> hi all... i'm trying to do something that it shouldn't work, but I need... I have a CRT working as a second monitor, and it works with 1024x768 or 800x600 (4:3)... I want it working in 1280x800 (or any other 16:10 resolution) even if I get a blank part at top and bottom... any ideas?
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> armando, So this was a statement rather then any real evidence confirming?
[05:25] <Psil0cybin> Okay holstein so i guess i will keep it as is for a while to see if anything comes out sometime this week
[05:26] <armando> im just wondering now if xubuntu or g pated or a virus killed my HD :P
[05:26] <holstein> Psil0cybin: an xorg.conf.. that will not be easy, nor rewarding.. in any way
[05:26] <holstein> Psil0cybin: change the timer on grub.. i have a few set to not automatically do anything
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> armando, Plug it back in and you will know if it dies or not, and no properly used xubuntu aor gparted does not kill HD's
[05:27] <Psil0cybin> Yea i know but also another question holstein does using an older kernal leave me vulnurable in any way shape or form
[05:27] <holstein> poiaufPqwer: : an xorg.conf.. that will not be easy, nor rewarding.. in any way
[05:27] <Psil0cybin> holstein,
[05:28] <holstein> Psil0cybin: maybe, but i argue using a computer makes one vulnerable.. the other option is for you to make your own kernel, and i dont think either one of us expect that to happen, so i think you'll just have to "risk it" ;)
[05:28] <armando> well if its not dead its pretty Bricked lol i cant do anything to it :P
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> armando, Can I introduce you to critical thinking and empirical evidence. ;)
[05:29] <Psil0cybin> Okay holstein
[05:29] <holstein> Psil0cybin: would i be concerned running a kernel that is a version or 2 back? no..
[05:29] <Psil0cybin> okay thank you thats what i wanted to hear
[05:29] <Psil0cybin> another question Hol
[05:29] <Psil0cybin> holstein,
[05:29] <Psil0cybin> I think the problem is caused with cedarview-drm and it looks like
[05:29] <Psil0cybin> other people havet he same problem as me
[05:29] <Psil0cybin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cedarview-drm-drivers/+bug/1038350
[05:29] <Psil0cybin> could i try and remove cedarview-drm
[05:30] <Psil0cybin> like it states in the bug description
[05:30] <Psil0cybin> or would that cause corruption
[05:31] <armando> lol ok, im giving up on him :P even if i fix it and lives i would feel bad because i already bought another one XD
[05:31] <holstein> Psil0cybin: i have no way of testing that first hand.. i would say it wouldnt hurt to try reinstalling that package
[05:31] <holstein> armando: why? 2 is better than one ;)
[05:31] <Psil0cybin> holstein, sorry for hounding you, what is the command to reinstall a package?
[05:32] <Psil0cybin> Im just new to linux so this is all a learning experience
[05:32] <Psil0cybin> so far I havent had problems like this
[05:32] <holstein> Psil0cybin: i would use synaptic.. you can right click on it.. its an easy GUI with lots of options
[05:33] <armando> lol i dont know what to say XD, i just wanted to make sure with you guys, i dont want it to happen again :P
[05:33] <holstein> armando: ?
[05:34] <holstein> armando: nothing you have said makes me think ubuntu "broke" the drive, or that you broke it installing ubuntu on it
[05:34] <Psil0cybin> holstein, okay reintalling cedarview-drm
[05:36] <poiaufPqwer> well... how can I have two monitors (laptop monitor + external CRT) using different resolutions? Laptop is 16:10 and CRT 4:3.. ideas?
[05:37] <armando> its not ubuntu, the thing is that my computer came with win 7, and  even in bios says win 7 factory defaut os,, i wonder if my computer doesnt like ubuntu :P
[05:37] <holstein> poiaufPqwer: get a different monitor.. hack at the xorg.conf file.. dont expect the same resolution both places.. dont mirror, do extend
[05:37] <Tekk_> Has anyone gotten fgl working on 12.04 with a radeon 4850? Installing the fgl package just falls me back onto vesa. I know that the proprietary driver at the very least used to support the ard.
[05:39] <poiaufPqwer> holstein, I want to extend, but that's the problem... it works well mirroring with same resolution
[05:39] <poiaufPqwer> but I'd like to have extended monitor with different resolutions.. is it possible?
[05:40] <holstein> poiaufPqwer: anything is technically possible.. im just suggesting that its not worth the hassle, when i literally trip over 16:9 lcd's on the way to the toilet
[05:41] <holstein> poiaufPqwer: i would try the arandr gui
[05:41] <poiaufPqwer> holstein, I tried xrandr... it seemed to be what I was looking for, but there are no compatible resolutions for both monitors
[05:42] <poiaufPqwer> actually... I even can have two different resolutions, but Ubuntu hangs, becoming extremely slow
[05:42] <holstein> poiaufPqwer: have you tried "arandr" ?
[05:42] <poiaufPqwer> but the fact that it works (even slowly) gave some hope
[05:42] <poiaufPqwer> i'm installing arandr right now
[05:45] <poiaufPqwer> holstein, almost there... it gets bugged, but at least a different result
[05:45] <poiaufPqwer> I'll make some tries here... thanks for your help
[05:46] <armando> thanks for the info guys,  =3  ill see u another time :P
[05:46] <luckybunny> hey guys... does ubuntu still use pulseaudio?
[05:46] <Tekk_> luckybunny:yes
[05:47] <angel> is ubuntu spyware like stallman says'
[05:47] <angel> ?
[05:47] <luckybunny> I'm curious because I'm suffering from a bug that appears to be linked to pulseaudio, but none of the PA utilities to iron it out are even installed
[05:47] <Tekk_> angel: until you remove the amazon lense
[05:47] <Tekk_> lens*
[05:47] <poiaufPqwer> hehe, I got a weird result... it works if I use one monitor "above" the other, in the ubuntu monitor configuration... but still doesn't work if they are side by side
[05:48] <Tekk_> shopping lens*
[05:48] <poiaufPqwer> I dont get actually why, but it works for me
[05:49] <luckybunny> I've had to get my router replaced twice due to PA sending UDP traffic on the network, essentially DoSing me
[05:50] <holstein> luckybunny: PA?
[05:50] <luckybunny> only just found out today it was pulseaudio, and that I could fix it, but weirdly I've had to install the pulse managers and controls myself, which is what got me wondering if ubuntu uses pulse still
[05:50] <luckybunny> PA = pulse audio
[05:50] <holstein> luckybunny: pulse audio broke a router?
[05:50] <luckybunny> yup
[05:50] <luckybunny> not broke... just repeatedly overheated
[05:50] <holstein> luckybunny: i highly doubt that.. i would carefully revisit your troubleshooting steps
[05:51] <holstein> luckybunny: lubuntu doesnt ship with pulse by default
[05:51] <holstein> !lubuntu
[05:52] <luckybunny> my troubleshooting steps involved looking at my computer's network traffic and even seeing the packet flood for myself
[05:52] <holstein> luckybunny: i have no packet flood
[05:52] <holstein> luckybunny: i think you are either mistaken, or something is compromised, or drastically misconfigured.. but, you are welcome to not use pulse audio
[05:53] <luckybunny> I believe I may have already fixed it by disabling RTP multicast
[05:54] <luckybunny> I followed this: http://taint.org/2008/03/21/142716a.html
[05:55] <holstein> luckybunny: its not all that new
[05:55] <ping> when trying to burn 13.04 to dvd using CD/DVD Creator, halfway through pop up message "unable to mount cdrom"
[05:56] <luckybunny> as it says in that blog post and elsewhere, it's not so much a bug but a feature
[05:56] <holstein> luckybunny: " this seems to have magically turned itself on " ..i suppose that magic just hasnt happened to me yet.. and has only happend to you and that guy, AFAIK
[05:56] <ping> but it finishes and says "data cd successfully burned?
[05:57] <qiyong> why squid is no longer supported?
[05:57] <holstein> luckybunny: that link is *very* old
[05:57] <wilee-nilee> ping, You burn as an image not data.
[05:58] <ping> the choices were burn as a "file" or burn the contents of the file
[05:58] <luckybunny> this is much newer (but still old) https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44777
[05:58] <ping> I burned it as a file
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> ping, In what burner?
[05:58] <ping> cd/dvd Creator
[05:59] <holstein> ping: you'll want to copy.. making a copy with the iso as the source and the disc as the destination
[05:59] <ping> is there a better cd burner?
[05:59] <LongCatTH> free coupon for codeschool, first come first serve :) http://go.codeschool.com/yp6ONw
[06:00] <Psil0cybin> holstein, Yo I think what you said works!
[06:00] <Psil0cybin> I reinstalled cedarview-drm
[06:00] <Psil0cybin> and i restarted 5 times and got the GUI all times!!
[06:00] <Psil0cybin> =D
[06:00] <ping> I'll try Brasero
[06:01] <Psil0cybin> holstein, we will play it by ear! But i think it works perfect
[06:01] <holstein> Psil0cybin: enjoy
[06:01] <akaWolf> hello! I try to work with svnserve + sasl! but I've got error... can everyone help me?
[06:02] <luckybunny> as I said, I only got to all these posts by googling the IP from the output from my network traffic, so hopefully I've now solved it. I have no idea how it ended up enabled for me either, but I'm not so much bothered by that. I hope I've disabled it now and should apologize to my ISP for having them replace the router twice, citing heat issues, when I was technically DoSing myself
[06:04] <afflicto> So, I have now backed up all my files. ready to install ubuntu. Shall I simply boot up from the USB and remove everything, then install ubuntu? I want to install win 7 on it as well.
[06:04] <afflicto> So should i install ubuntu first, then win 7.
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | afflicto
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> afflicto: but we recommend single install ubuntu :p
[06:05] <akaWolf> hello! I try to work with svnserve + sasl! but I've got error... can everyone help me?
[06:06] <afflicto> lotuspsychje: I'd love to. I need FL Studio and photoshop tho :P (I will try gimp and Ardour tho)
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> afflicto: you can use playonlinux and wine for those
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> afflicto: check the playonlinux website for all the games&apps
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> !appdb | afflicto
[06:07] <afflicto> lotuspsychje: hm it's a bit cumbersome and not very stable as far as I know?
[06:07] <afflicto> I'll take a look tho
[06:08] <akaWolf> hey!
[06:08] <afflicto> But wait. what's the best way to dualboot win and ubuntu? win 7 first or ubuntu first?
[06:08] <wilee-nilee> afflicto, You want windows 7 in the first partitions, it installs a boot partition if you do not make a ntfs ahead of time and point the install to it.
[06:09] <afflicto> wilee-nilee: hey wilee! :P uhm "first partitions"?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> afflicto: you can also run win7 inside virtualbox from ubuntu
[06:09] <wilee-nilee> afflicto, I don't use the windows boot partition it is needed though for their encrypt. Windows a boot and C both ntfs unless you want just one.
[06:10] <afflicto> lotus: I know but I don't think it works well with ASIo4ALL I dno maybe it does.
[06:10] <afflicto> u know what I'm just erasing everything and installing ubuntu. I'll see what I do from there.
[06:10] <DoverMo> afflicto, woo D:
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> afflicto: smart choice :p
[06:10] <DoverMo> afflicto, or just make 2 partitions
[06:10] <akaWolf> sorry for asking, but can everyone help me?
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> !patience | akaWolf
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> akaWolf: perhaps you could explain your issue specific?
[06:11] <DoverMo> afflicto, myself being a super pro photographer, I would say that gimp is very sufficient in terms of editing. the only thing you are missing from photoshop are it's tools/brushes
[06:11] <akaWolf> lotuspsychje: I could that
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> !details | akaWolf
[06:12] <akaWolf> ubottu: ok
[06:12] <afflicto> Well FYI my PC has 3 physial HDD's. 1 has windows, the other two are just storage.
[06:14] <afflicto> hm. on my boot menu in BIOS I have two instances of the same USB stick. one called "UEFI..." and another one.
[06:14] <afflicto> Do I want the UEFI one?
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | afflicto
[06:15] <akaWolf> I'm using svnserve v. 1.7.5 and sasl 2.2, I start the svnserve, then I try to connect to localhost repository, and then I've got "svn: E170001: Authentification error"
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> akaWolf: did you sudo?
[06:16] <akaWolf> lotuspsychje: for this example.. start svnserve as sudo
[06:16] <afflicto> ok UEFI usb stick didn't work. I'll choose the one without UEFI now.
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> akaWolf: yes try sudo svnserve
[06:17] <akaWolf> lotuspsychje: it's not permission specific problem, it's a problem with sasl <> svnserve
[06:17] <akaWolf> lotuspsychje: I do this as sudo
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> ok
[06:19] <DarkFox> Hello, could anyone here head me into the direction for how to get any linux iso to boot to install onto a windows-file to boot from?
[06:20] <DarkFox> Erm
[06:20] <DarkFox> wubi, explanation for how it works ^ Just chainload to a file? Process explained anywhere?
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> akaWolf: try removing -R read only maybe
[06:20] <bazhang> !wubi | DarkFox
[06:21] <wilee-nilee> DarkFox, wubi does not install from the iso.
[06:21] <DarkFox> Hmm, just thought about if my school laptop uses uefi but I don't think win7 does that..
[06:21] <DarkFox> wilee-nilee: I am aware but it would be nice to get a file or something setup so I can install arch from my USB while having that booted and writing to that file on the windows partitions
[06:22] <akaWolf> lotuspsychje: I start svnserve without -R
[06:22] <DarkFox> Windows chainloads it somehow. I want this part so I can boot any distro of my choice
[06:23] <akaWolf> lotuspsychje: libsasl2-2_2.1.25
[06:23] <DarkFox> In my case arch with encryption if decent with the NTFS filesystem for the file / virtual disk itself.
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> akaWolf: not sure then mate, maybe try the #ubuntu-server guys someone might have svn knowlegde
[06:24] <akaWolf> lotuspsychje: ok, thanks
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> akaWolf: or re-ask in chat once in a while, at other times someone might find a fix
[06:24] <xtu> hey, how to transfer a file in gbk encoding to unicode in ubuntu
[06:24] <xtu> is there a easy way
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> xtu: maybe this can help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/98036/how-to-set-encoding-in-gedit-3-2
[06:28] <hendra_pegasus> hi how are you brother anyone here cooming from argentina or germany
[06:28] <xtu> lotuspsychje, thanks!
[06:28] <hendra_pegasus> je parle francais
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> !fr | hendra_pegasus
[06:28] <hendra_pegasus> ya lot whats going on
[06:28] <DarkFox> How is wubi getting the image?
[06:28] <DarkFox> to boot
[06:29] <hendra_pegasus> je parle anglais
[06:29] <llutz> !ot | hendra_pegasus
[06:30] <hendra_pegasus> ya good ubuntu linux ya ubottu...what are you using
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> DarkFox: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[06:31] <DarkFox> lotuspsychje: I don't want to boot from USB
[06:39] <hendra_pegasus> hi how are you
[06:40] <bazhang> hendra_pegasus, this is NOT the chat channel
[06:40] <xtu> how are who?
[06:40] <bazhang> hendra_pegasus, this is for ubuntu support only
[06:40] <hendra_pegasus> so what bazhang nin hao ma
[06:40] <bazhang> hendra_pegasus, for chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[06:40] <hendra_pegasus> xtu thats my name nin neng du ma
[06:41] <hendra_pegasus> lil how are you good
[06:41] <xtu> haha, just speak english! i can understand dyou
[06:41] <bazhang> lets move on please
[06:41] <xtu> if you have any problems related to ubuntu, just ask here, they can solve it
[06:53] <delinquentme> linux to linux devices connections
[06:57] <Jordan744> Hey, I have a question. I downloaded Ubuntu partioned. I'm thinking that since I partioned up the disk that it is making my windows run slower. (Ubuntu wont even run) How do I get rid of Ubuntu completely
[06:58] <ceil> formatting the partition would erase ubuntu. i don't know how Windows handles partitions, though
[06:59] <ceil> might want to try ##windows and ask about reclaiming that space
[06:59] <wilee-nilee> Jordan744, could you explain downloaded partitioned?
[07:01] <green_> on a new install of 12.04 when i update and restart, my screen rolls on 1920x1080 is there any way to fix this?
[07:02] <dheaiai> Hi Alll
[07:02] <Jordan744> Well first, could that be what's causing my laptop to run slowly?
[07:03] <dheaiai> I want to buy microcontroller
[07:03] <dheaiai> with 2 usb port
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> Jordan744, Honestly your statement makes no sense, no way to know.
[07:03] <Jordan744> @wilee-nilee I downloaded the version 12.10 off of the ubuntu website and followed their instructions to partion
[07:03] <dheaiai> arv8
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> Jordan744, A partitioned install should have nothing to do with how windows performs.
[07:04] <bazhang> !ot | dheaiai
[07:04] <bazhang> dheaiai, ##hardware not here
[07:04] <Jordan744> I was just speculating, thanks for answering wilee-nilee!
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> Jordan744, Did you resize windows, and if so how?
[07:05] <dheaiai> ohhh. can u please tell me which community
[07:05] <green_> on a new install of 12.04 when i update and restart, my screen rolls on 1920x1080 is there any way to fix this?
[07:05] <Jordan744> I don't think I did, I was just thinking. Wasn't 100% sure
[07:06] <Jordan744> Brb, seeing what happens if I try to run Ubuntu (I forget, it's been ages)
[07:06] <wilee-nilee> Jordan744, Did you choose the install alongside?
[07:13] <shin_> conkyrc
[07:14] <Jordan733> Okay, when I try to run Ubuntu it tells me that \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr is missing or contains errors. What do I do?
[07:14] <nu11s37> Anyone around ?
[07:15] <Jordan733> I am! Looking for help :P
[07:15] <nu11s37> yes
[07:15] <nu11s37> I cannot play m3u files using mplayer
[07:15] <nu11s37> using ubuntu 12.04
[07:15] <shin_> check your codec
[07:16] <nu11s37> mplayer -playlist name.m3u does not work
[07:16] <nu11s37> I installed restricted extras
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> Jordan733, I wondered if it was a wubi, that first is not a partitioned install. little wubi supprt here there is one user on the ubuntu forums who can help, and sometimes shows up here.
[07:16] <nu11s37> Detected file format: Nullsoft Streaming Video (libavformat)
[07:16] <nu11s37> LAVF_header: avformat_open_input() failed
[07:16] <nu11s37> Opening as detected format "libavformat" failed.
[07:16] <nu11s37> Detected file format: Nullsoft Streaming Video (libavformat)
[07:16] <nu11s37> LAVF_header: avformat_open_input() failed
[07:16] <nu11s37> Opening as detected format "libavformat" failed.
[07:16] <FloodBot1> nu11s37: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:16] <nu11s37> Failed to recognize file format.
[07:16] <green_> on a new install of 12.04 when i update and restart, my screen rolls on 1920x1080 is there any way to fix this?
[07:16] <Jordan733> What is wrong with wubi?
[07:17] <nu11s37> I can play it in winamp
[07:17] <nu11s37> works fine
[07:17] <nu11s37> I can play it in vlc
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> Jordan733, Its not supported anymore basically, the designer themselves said it was a try put to resolve in a partitioned install, it can just be problematic at times.
[07:18] <Jordan733> Is it bad that I have it?
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> out*
[07:19] <wilee-nilee> Jordan733, Not really, but just limited help is all.
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> !wubi | Jordan733 here is some info.
[07:21] <Jordan733> I found the uninstall .exe I'm just going to run it
[07:21] <wilee-nilee> Jordan733, It is in the control panel in remove programs as well.
[07:22] <afflicto> So I just finnished installing ubuntu. restarted. and now it says windows 7 failed to start. wait.. what? I just erased win 7! help xD
[07:22] <Jordan733> Oh, I was just going to look at the file it said was missing and I instead found the uninstall lol. How should I install ubuntu without getting rid of windows
 just repair your grub
[07:23] <afflicto> shin_: how?
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> Jordan733, you would install it in a unallocated space on the hard drive using the installer, however you want to be aware of the 4 primary limitation on a single HD or 3 prmaries and a extended as a container for logical partitions.
[07:25] <afflicto> I fixed it. just had to boot the other hard drive.
[07:25] <shin_> edit your /etc/grub.conf
[07:25] <wilee-nilee> afflicto, Get the bootrepair app, just run the bootinfo summary and post the url to it, the tool can fix grub in general, it is nice to see what is there first though with the script.
[07:25] <wilee-nilee> afflicto, cool.
[07:25] <Noskcaj> can someone help me with setting up sbuild? It seems something is wrong with step 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild
[07:26] <afflicto> Thanks everyone for the help! :P
[07:30] <afflicto> Ok I'm back. on linux now on my desktop. One issue tho. I can't change the sensitivity of my mouse in the settings? :S
[07:34] <researcher123> how can I now my Ubuntu version and release from command line?
[07:35] <Jordan_U> !release | researcher123
[07:35] <researcher123> Jordan thanks
[07:35] <Jordan_U> researcher123: Sorry, wrong factoid. "lsb_release -a" should tell you.
[07:35] <researcher123> Jordan_U: thanks
[07:35] <Jordan_U> researcher123: You're welcome.
[07:48] <meerkat> hello. Where can I get the source code of lxpanel? lxde.org is down.
[07:48] <iceroot_> meerkat: apt-get source lxpanel
[07:49] <iceroot_> meerkat: then you will get the debian source-package containing the source-code, the ubuntu patches and the debhelper files itself
[07:52] <afflicto> I'm installing "Additional Drivers" and I get two items saying "Video driver for the AMD graphics..." should I install both of them?
[07:55] <meerkat> iceroot_, do you happen to know where these source packages are put on the system?
[07:55] <Jordan_U> meerkat: apt-get source downloads to the current directory.
[07:55] <meerkat> Jordan_U, oh. there it is! :)
[07:55] <meerkat> thanks
[07:58] <farbod> pesarkhobeee,salam
[07:58] <farbod> acce,hi
[07:59] <farbod> help me
[07:59] <farbod> help
[07:59] <Jordan_U> meerkat: You're welcome.
[07:59] <Jordan_U> farbod: What do you need help with?
[08:00] <farbod> i want pesarkhbeee
[08:00] <Guest23207> in 12.04, Skype and F.lux are not in the software center? how do I install them?
[08:00] <farbod> do you noe him?
[08:00] <afflicto> Guest23207: skype.com
[08:00] <xtu> hi, how can i register a nick name on irc and use it afterwards
[08:00] <toufiq> salut
[08:00] <matematikaadit> !register | xtu
[08:00] <toufiq> ya quelqu'un
[08:01] <farbod> how can i search for pesarkhbeee?
[08:01] <Jordan_U> farbod: This channel is for Ubuntu support discussion, please take offtopic discussion elsewhere.
[08:01] <afflicto> Nobody knows if I should install both drivers from "Additional Drivers"?
[08:01] <farbod> jordan_u: how can i do this?
[08:02] <Jordan_U> farbod: Do what?
[08:02] <farbod> jordan_u: search for pesarkhobee?
[08:03] <farbod> jordan_u: ? :d
[08:04] <Jordan_U> farbod: By running "/whois pesarkhobee" you can see that there is currently nobody with that nick connected to freenode at the moment, if that's what you mean. For more questions about how to use Freenode/IRC please join #freenode.
[08:04] <farbod> how can i use /whoise?
[08:05] <farbod> jordan_u: how can i use /whoise?
[08:05] <Jordan_U> farbod: Please join #freenode.
[08:05] <farbod> ok
[08:05] <farbod> i join
[08:05] <farbod> jordan_u: now?
[08:06] <farbod> ?
[08:06] <Jordan_U> farbod: You haven't joined the channel #freenode. You're still in the channel #ubuntu.
[08:06] <farbod> ok come
[08:06] <xtu> ls
[08:07] <farbod> jordan_u: waht shulde i do in freenode?
[08:08] <farbod> jordan_u: waht shulde i do in freenode?
[08:08] <Jordan_U> farbod: Ask whatever questions you have about using Freenode (which is the IRC network you're currently connected to). You still haven't joined #freenode. To do so type "/join #freenode" without the quotes.
[08:09] <farbod> jordan_u: how can i joyned freedone?
[08:09] <Jordan_U> farbod: I just told you. Type "/join #freenode" without the quotes.
[08:10] <farbod> jordan_u: i joind
[08:11] <farbod> jordan_u: now wath shulde be i do?
[08:11] <kr4zycoder> hi farbod
[08:11] <Jordan_U> farbod: No, you didn't.
[08:12] <hakunin> Hi, there is a bug in Ubuntu kernel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/999755
[08:12] <murosai> hey, during boot i saw some messages telling me that i should manually install some firmware for my wireless device, are these messages logged somewhere?
[08:12] <hakunin> How do I know which kernel version to install to get the bugfix?
[08:12] <kr4zycoder> so many stupid people here
[08:12] <Jordan_U> kr4zycoder: Please be civil.
[08:12] <kr4zycoder> ;)
[08:13] <hakunin> I see there is a bot-comment on the bottom of the bug saying that it's released in precise-proposed
[08:13] <farbod> jordan_u: where am i can write #freedome?
[08:13] <hakunin> (I need this for 12.04)
[08:13] <hakunin> So just getting any kernel version >3.2.0-29 would be sufficient?
[08:13] <hakunin> Or do I also have to get it from the correct source, like proposed?
[08:14] <Jordan_U> farbod: I'm sorry but this has gone on long enough, if you can't follow the directions I've given you then you'll just have to figure things out on your own. I'm going to mute you in this channel so that people can no longer see what you post.
[08:14] <kr4zycoder> im new here ...what is this all about?
[08:15] <kr4zycoder> Jordan_U:
[08:15] <DerpDeDoo> When someone has a moment, I have a question.  -  I have some executable binaries, and when I go to the directory they are in, I can double click the file, and it runs.  If I pin it to the unity launcher, the icon remains, but when I click it, it does not launch the program.
[08:16] <auronandace> !topic | kr4zycoder
[08:16] <hakunin> I'm just not familiar with the concepts of "proposed", "security", etc. All I know is that the bug was fixed in precise-proposed 3.2.0-29.46, so if I install, say 3.2.0-44, I'm all good?
[08:16] <csrgxtu> DerpDeDoo, I think you should make a desktop shortcut and then pin it
[08:16] <tnli>  kun kaljaovet on suljettu ?.
[08:17] <tnli> Hm, sorry about that.
[08:17] <DerpDeDoo> I'll give that a shot csrgxtu
[08:17] <kr4zycoder> ubottu:thanks
[08:18] <csrgxtu> bot means robot?
[08:18] <kr4zycoder> ubottu:what's a bot?
[08:18] <meerkat> yes
[08:18] <csrgxtu> ubottu, are you a robot?
[08:18] <auronandace> !bot
[08:19] <csrgxtu> ok, got it!
[08:19] <hakunin> I need to figure out which version of kernel has a bugfix of bug #99755. Or I'd appreciate if you could point me to a better channel to ask this question.
[08:20] <kr4zycoder> ubottu: after typing /topic im getting a message -ur not a channel operator
[08:20] <hakunin> sorry I meant bug #999755
[08:20] <kr4zycoder> !topic
[08:21] <csrgxtu> kr4zycoder, i don't understand, the ubottu response our question , i think he is a administrator in this channel.
[08:21] <hakunin> so looks like this is the right channel to ask my question
[08:22] <DerpDeDoo> csrgxtu, I can make a link to the executable, and if I run the link from within the folder, it launches the program.  I move the shortcut to the desktop, and bam, stops working.  :/
[08:22] <kr4zycoder> csrgxtu:i think he gives answers according to keywords in our conversation....he's some kind of an automatic assistant
[08:23] <csrgxtu> kr4zycoder, yeah, i guess so too
[08:23] <kr4zycoder> csrgxtu:btw..hi,where are from?
[08:23] <csrgxtu> DerpDeDoo, there should be a example.desktop file in your home directory
[08:24] <csrgxtu> kr4zycoder, CN
[08:24] <csrgxtu> what about you
[08:25] <hakunin> let me try to rephrase
[08:25] <DerpDeDoo> csrgxtu, nope, no example.desktop in there.
[08:25] <lenovoman> i have problem with grub2
[08:26] <csrgxtu> DerpDeDoo, wait a minute, how can i send a file to you through irc?
[08:26] <hakunin> If a bug was fixed in precise-proposed version 3.2.0-29.46, does it mean that installing kernel 3.2.0-44 will give me the fix?
[08:27] <DerpDeDoo> csrgxtu, I think its drag and drop over my name, but I'm not sure.  Depends on your IRC client
[08:27] <tnli> csrgxtu: DCC is the thing to look at, but I have no idea if it's even implemented on the client you're using.
[08:27] <DerpDeDoo> csrgxtu, possibly a right click on my name in the userlist, and the DCC send file
[08:28] <sehinesy> Hello everyone, I want to buy a new phone, and I have 2 choices: Either Galaxy S3 or Nexus 4; So, considering that I want to run Ubuntu touch on it and make it like a mini portable laptop, which one is better for me?
[08:28] <csrgxtu> xchat, i am using xchat
[08:28] <tnli> Nowdays I'd go with dropbox or something similar.
[08:28] <csrgxtu> DerpDeDoo, can you use your command line
[08:28] <tnli> Too many broken DCC connections in the past. :D
[08:28] <csrgxtu> DerpDeDoo, enter the directory /usr/share/applications/
[08:28] <csrgxtu> there is a lot of the desktop shortcut file
[08:29] <tnli> Actually, I noticed an annoying thing just moments ago. When I start FTL via steam it apparently kills x as I drop out of the desktop to login prompt on 13.4
[08:29] <DerpDeDoo> csrgxtu, I tried playing with one of those before.  All I did was mess up the icon for the app.
[08:29] <csrgxtu> normally, if i want to make a shortcut, i always put the app.example file into that directory
[08:29] <tnli> Anyone noticed similar thing?
[08:30] <sehinesy> Is this channel concerned about Ubuntu touch? Or there is a separate channel?
[08:30] <csrgxtu> DerpDeDoo, yeah, if you don't specify your own icon file, then it will messed up with others
[08:31] <DerpDeDoo> csrgxtu, Yeah, that wasnt a big deal, but it still wouldnt launch
[08:31] <csrgxtu> then it is the path you set that didn't right
[08:31] <kr4zycoder> csrgxtu:cool..i'm from india
[08:31] <csrgxtu> use the absolute path
[08:31] <DerpDeDoo> csrgxtu, i put in the full path
[08:32] <DerpDeDoo> csrgxtu, /home/myusername/Downloads/programiwant/binaryname
[08:32] <csrgxtu> kr4zycoder, i heard that in your country, the second language is english
[08:32] <csrgxtu> yeah, that should be right
[08:33] <csrgxtu> let me check my file
[08:34] <kr4zycoder> csrgxtu:ohh! yes it is...english learning is stressed everywhere
[08:36] <lenovoman> grub2 when i do sudo update-grub  it does not do anything
[08:36] <csrgxtu> DerpDeDoo, here is my configuration
[08:37] <csrgxtu> [Desktop Entry]
[08:37] <csrgxtu> Name=sublime
[08:37] <csrgxtu> GenericName=Text Editor
[08:37] <csrgxtu> Comment=Edit Source files
[08:37] <csrgxtu> Exec=sublime_text
[08:37] <FloodBot1> csrgxtu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:38] <csrgxtu> DerpDeDoo, I put the binary file into the system bin directory, you can too
[08:38] <csrgxtu> have a test
[08:39] <DerpDeDoo> csrgxtu, Alright, I'll give it a try.    I gotta get going.  Thanks for dealing with  :p
[08:39] <DerpDeDoo> dealing with me*
[08:40] <csrgxtu> that is all right!
[08:40] <Aaruni|nix> hey
[08:40] <Aaruni|nix> need help
[08:40] <lorph> What settings do i need to set to make syn floods not take up 100% cpu? I already limited syn packets to 50/second in ip tables but it eventually causes kksoftirqd/0 to use 100% cpu and make the OS freeze
[08:41] <Aaruni|nix> just got HP pavillion g6 2303tx, but WLAN drivers seem to be missing, using Ubuntu 12.04 live
[08:42] <lenovoman> DerpDeDoo i cannot get grub2 to update find a new distro i installed
[08:43] <zorael> What is the output of 'fc-match serif' on a default installation?
[08:44] <theadmin> zorael: DejaVuSerif.ttf: "DejaVu Serif" "Book"
[08:44] <zorael> theadmin: Cheers
[08:45] <Aaruni|nix> help ? its kinda urgent..
[08:45] <gabhy> hi! error: file not found grub rescue>  what can I do?
[08:47] <gabhy> hi! anybody can help me, please?
[08:50] <gabhy> hello!!
[08:51] <gabhy> hola! me pueden ayudar por favor
[08:52] <lenovoman> any1 see this ?
[08:53] <gabhy> bye, chau ciao
[08:54] <sno> BitchX:  I know it´s old but I can´t seem to get it to compile.  Does anyone have a link to a pre-combiled binary?
[09:01] <kojimoto> Hello how can I start with ubuntu, I had it once but it was from boot
[09:01] <kojimoto> How do I get the legit ubuntu
[09:02] <csrgxtu> kojimoto, you mean, you want to learn using the ubuntu os
[09:03] <csrgxtu> it is easy as windows7, it has a user interface too, and more goodlooking
[09:03] <kojimoto> csrgxtu: no, how do I install it
[09:03] <kojimoto> the correct way
[09:04] <kojimoto> and I guess how can I learn to use it
[09:04] <kojimoto> like terminal commands
[09:04] <kojimoto> etc
[09:04] <Ari-Yang> ....google
[09:04] <kojimoto> I used google
[09:04] <kojimoto> and I downloaded it the wrong way
[09:04] <kojimoto> than I found the right way
[09:04] <kojimoto> by flashdrive
[09:04] <Ari-Yang> kojimoto, http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[09:04] <kojimoto> and I could find it in the bios
[09:04] <csrgxtu> well, got the iso iamge, and burn it to the cds or usb, and then start the computer from the cd or usb, and then it will prompt you to install
[09:04] <kojimoto> couldn't
[09:05] <csrgxtu> normally press f12, what kind of computer you are using
[09:07] <ns7> does the random library produce quality random numbers in a live cd?
[09:08] <bekks> Which random library?
[09:18] <moimeme> Hello, I'm trying to install lxle1204-32 on a laptop (HP compaq nc6000). vmlinuz and initrd.gz will load, then I get a few screenfull of information. Finally the process stops with the message " FATAL: Error inserting vesafb (/lib/modules/3.2.0-30-generic/kernel/drivers/video/vesafb.ko): No such device "
[09:19] <moimeme> Next is the (initramfs) prompt.
[09:19] <moimeme> Can anybody help? Please.
[09:19] <bekks> Whats "lxle1204-32"?
[09:19]  * kuvix join #0,0
[09:20] <moimeme> lxle1204-32.iso. A lubuntu LTS version.
[09:20] <bekks> moimeme: lxle1204-32.iso isnt the default name of any ubuntu iso.
[09:20] <bekks> moimeme: Where do you got it from?
[09:21] <moimeme> The web site is http://lxle.net/
[09:22] <Ari-Yang> moimeme, I think you'd want to get it here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[09:22] <bekks> moimeme: You are not using Ubuntu then. Please get an official lubuntu iso.
[09:22] <ndroftheline1> hi can someone tel me if qgis is in the offiial repos?
[09:23] <llutz> !info qgis | ndroftheline1
[09:23] <xormor> Linux laptoppi-HP-G62-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:46:08 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[09:23] <xormor> I am using Ubuntu GNU/Linux.
[09:23] <moimeme> This is a lubuntu spin-off, which is a ubuntu spin-off, which is a debian spin-off. LOL
[09:23] <llutz> moimeme: which is not supported here. end of story
[09:24] <SP33D> i think i am under attak or i am wrong i always get:  PAM service(sshd) ignoring max retries; 6 > 3
[09:24] <SP33D> that does mean that some one brutforces the box right?
[09:24] <bekks> SP33D: "always" when doing what?
[09:24] <moimeme> Am I in the right channel, Do you know of a channel specific to lubuntu or lxle?
[09:24] <SP33D> doing nothing simply idling on console
[09:24] <Ari-Yang> moimeme, there's #lubuntu
[09:24] <bekks> moimeme: lxle isnt supported by lubuntu either.
[09:24] <Ari-Yang> moimeme, you should just download the official iso is all.
[09:25] <ss_haze> xubuntu is more stable by LTS version, there are things that bug me out in lubuntu
[09:25] <llutz> SP33D: do you allow password-authentication on that box?
[09:25] <moimeme> Ari-Yang; I'm running Ubuntu LTS on my desktop, I just need a lighter version for an old laptop.
[09:26] <ns7> bekks, urandom
[09:26] <SP33D> llutz its a standart ubuntu server install with sshd installed
[09:26] <Ari-Yang> moimeme, I think xubuntu is lighter than lubuntu...
[09:26] <bekks> moimeme: Then just use lubuntu
[09:26] <SP33D> that accepts normal logins yes
[09:26] <SP33D> i connect my self via putty and login / pass
[09:26] <llutz> SP33D: well consider to change it to key-auth
[09:26] <SP33D> i now started to install fail2ban
[09:27] <SP33D> hmmm ok need to google abit about that method you mean with cert files right?
[09:27] <moimeme> Ok, thank you everyone.
[09:27] <Ari-Yang> actually moimeme, lubuntu is suppose to be lighter. but xubuntu /may/ be more stable?
[09:27] <Ari-Yang> the lts version at least, idk
[09:27] <llutz> SP33D: keys, not certs, yes
[09:27] <Ari-Yang> it's up to you
[09:27] <SP33D> Ari Lubuntu rocks in any way
[09:28] <SP33D> its not buggy i run it on over 50 pc's local
[09:28] <SP33D> all kind of ages from 5 years + back till newst hardware all works well
[09:28] <green_> on ubuntu 12.04 i have 1920x1080 working after the install but after the first update 1920x1080 resolution the screen rolls, is there a way to fix this?
[09:28] <SP33D> i can even play starcraft II on it or Diablo 3
[09:29] <Dave77> is there any installer for LXDE or XFCE4? How do I install Xwindows and make it work?
[09:29] <SP33D> green: you probally now got a newer X version that don't supports your graphic card
[09:30] <bekks> SP33D: Thats wrong. Since X actually works.
[09:30] <SP33D> bekks i mean his resulotion
[09:30] <green_> sp33d so no way to fix that except find a os that supports older hw?
[09:30] <kiwitinker> I have a game server running on lubuntu, I can connect to it over the internet but I want to connect to it over my local network which i have been unable to do for some reason, i specify what i think is the right local ip address, it is the ip address for eth0
[09:30] <bekks> green_: Which graphics hardware do you have, and which driver do you use? And "rolls" indicates that your virtual desktop is bigger than your actual screen.
[09:30] <bekks> SP33D: Thats what I am talking about.
[09:30] <SP33D> i hade same problems after upgrading form 12.04 my ATI Radeon was to old
[09:30] <bekks> green_: He is wrong. Please answer my questions.
[09:31] <green_> intel hd
[09:31] <bekks> green_: Which one?
[09:31] <green_> h/o
[09:31] <bekks> green_: What does "h/o" mean in terms of make and model of a graphics adapter?
[09:31] <kiwitinker> the machine i am trying to connect to it from is a windows xp machine
[09:32] <bekks> kiwitinker: Then use putty, e.g.
[09:32] <green_> where do i find out
[09:32] <mumpitzel> green_: lspci -nn
[09:32] <kiwitinker> putty is an app?
[09:32] <mumpitzel> kiwitinker: it's a ssh client for windows and linux, yes
[09:33] <kiwitinker> so i would run that from my windows machine
[09:33] <mumpitzel> kiwitinker: to find out the current IP address for eth0 you use "/sbin/ifconfig|less"
[09:33] <kiwitinker> nothing need to be done on linux machine
[09:33] <green_> Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ
[09:33] <mumpitzel> kiwitinker: that's only for accessing the linux machine: you will get a CLI on linux if you run a ssh server
[09:34] <mumpitzel> Dave77: you can install xorg  then you have xwindows. if you want an installer, you use lubunut for lxde or xubuntu for xfce
[09:36] <fulcan> grub2 fails to update/install to /dev/sda1  http://bpaste.net/show/Sk2UIR2QIotLR79jleA0/   Disk /dev/sda1 doesn't contain a valid partition table
[09:36] <kiwitinker> trying to type sbin/ifconfig?less into console but don't know how to get that ?(straight vertical line)
[09:37] <kiwitinker> I am a newbie by the way
[09:38] <mumpitzel> kiwitinker: depends on your keyboard layout
[09:39] <mumpitzel> kiwitinker: on english keyboards it should be above your enter key
[09:39] <kiwitinker> thanks mumpitzel
[09:39] <mumpitzel> fulcan: what kind of partition table is it?
[09:40] <fulcan> ext3
[09:40] <mumpitzel> ext3 is a filesystem not a partition table
[09:41] <kiwitinker> that came up with same local ip that i was trying so that is not the issue
[09:41] <fulcan> mumpitzel i'm not sure, where to I find it?
[09:41] <mumpitzel> usually it's either mbr or gpt
[09:42] <green_> Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ
[09:43] <mumpitzel> green_: that one's supported out of the box via i915 driver
[09:43] <mumpitzel> green_: if xorg isn't working for you, check your Xorg.0.log
[09:44] <green_> ok
[09:45] <green_> where do i find xorg 0 log?
[09:53] <green_> im not finding a Xorg.0 log file
[09:53] <ndroftheline> hi all! if i have a package from the official repos and then add a ppa with a newer version of the same package, will that cause a rpoblem?
[09:54] <bekks> ndroftheline: Depends on the quality of the PPA. PPA arent supported in here, generally.
[09:54] <ns7> does urandom produce high randomness in a live cd?
[09:55] <ndroftheline> ok i guess i'm actually asking about the typical behavior of apt - when issuing an update command, does it prefer to pull from the same repository as existing packages were pulled form or look exclusively at versioning?
[09:55] <green_> where do i find Xorg 0.log file?
[09:55] <SP33D> oh oh
[09:55] <SP33D> i think i blocked my self out oh my god how i hate such things
[09:55] <SP33D> :D
[09:56] <xormor> derk0pf: ich habe ein kopf.
[09:56] <xormor> derk0pf: guten morgen, moin, moin.
[09:56] <SP33D> oh gott deutsche
[09:56] <SP33D> this is a english speaking  channel
[09:56] <xormor> SP33D: I learned it in school.
[09:56] <xormor> SP33D: ok.
[09:57] <mumpitzel> green_: in /var/log/
[09:57] <SP33D> why did you learn it you whanted to flirt with hitler?
[09:57] <green_> ok
[09:57] <bekks> SP33D: Please stop those comments.
[09:57] <mumpitzel> SP33D: do you have ubuntu related support question?
[09:57] <dell> hi friends
[09:57] <dell> i have a problem :(
[09:58] <xormor> dell: ok, tell us.
[09:58] <bekks> !details | dell
[09:59] <dell> i want send a music from pidgin messenger for my friend but i can't
[09:59] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:59] <green_> someone want me to pastebin the Xorg 0.log file?
[10:00] <cristian_c> I can no longer hear the sound come out from the speakers
[10:00] <cristian_c> What can I see?
[10:00] <cristian_c> *where have I to look at?
[10:00] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[10:01] <freefox> can you hear other things?
[10:01] <Joschii> Hosianna!
[10:01] <bekks> dell: Please provide more details, as requested. "I cant" isnt a valuable error message.
[10:01] <cristian_c> freefox, waht?
[10:01] <cristian_c> :)
[10:01] <cristian_c> *what
[10:02] <cristian_c> freefox, ah, ok
[10:02] <freefox> I mean, with your ears
[10:02] <cristian_c> freefox, I can't hear either form headphone :(
[10:02] <cristian_c> *from
[10:02] <cristian_c> freefox, 12.04 precise
[10:03] <xormor> I can't play CD's in xubuntu 13.04 raring ringtail.
[10:03] <xormor> so I use an external CD player and headphones.
[10:03] <dell> i use ubuntu 12.04 LTS - i want send a music by pidgin in yahoo but it can;t ... when i send that music for my friend he can;t see ntg in his yahoo messenger and my music dont upload in pidgin...just 0%
[10:05] <green_> heres my Xorg 0 .log file http://pastebin.com/jpLFAUC2
[10:06] <ss_haze> remove pidgin of old version, and download newer one, or think about why you use yahoo at all..
[10:06] <freefox> cristian_c: is the computer on?
[10:07] <cristian_c> freefox, yeah
[10:09] <dell> with new version will be ok ?
[10:11] <freefox> cristian_c: are you sure?
[10:12] <cristian_c> freefox, yeah
 with new version will be ok ?
[10:13] <green_> anyone see a problem in my Xorg 0.log file?
[10:13] <freefox> cristian_c: ok, you see the speaker icon at the bottom right corner?
[10:13] <cristian_c> freefox, yeah
[10:14] <freefox> cristian_c: now right click it, what does it say?
[10:14] <cristian_c> freefox, volume control settings
[10:15] <freefox> cristian_c: then click it
[10:15] <cristian_c> an other speaker icon is appeared in the panel
[10:15] <cristian_c> freefox, nothing happens
[10:15] <freefox> cristian_c: double click?
[10:16] <bekks> green_: Whats the maximum resolution of your monitor?
[10:16] <cristian_c> freefox, nothing happens
[10:18] <freefox> cristian_c: what did you do so far?
[10:20] <SP33D> hi can any one tell me what that exactly means
[10:20] <SP33D> i simply don't understand what the error is http://pastebin.de/35333
[10:21] <bekks> SP33D: What are you doing that produces your error?
[10:21] <cristian_c> freefox, I found out accidentally, I do not know
[10:21] <SP33D> ok ya i understand he can't read anything a ascii code or like that but where it comes from i don't know whanted to do distupgrade
[10:22] <bekks> SP33D: Whats the full output you get when running which command exactly?
[10:23] <SP33D> posted it to pastebin
[10:23] <SP33D> when i run do-release-upgrade
[10:23] <bekks> SP33D: Whats the entire output, not just the error?
[10:23] <SP33D> http://pastebin.de/35333
[10:24] <SP33D> there is only one line befor in german that says fatal error then this output
[10:24] <freefox> cristian_c: the volume is turned down, you have to find the slider and turn it back up
[10:24] <SP33D> it is the full one
[10:24] <SP33D> i get exactly that
[10:24] <freefox> cristian_c: on even
[10:24] <cristian_c> freefox, volume is up
[10:25] <freefox> cristian_c: that is the master volume, you need to find the correct slider in settings
[10:26] <cristian_c> freefox, alsamixer?
[10:27] <freefox> cristian_c: maybe
[10:28] <SP33D> ok found out i got a confirmed bug and there is a update
[10:28] <SP33D> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1046362
[10:28] <cristian_c> freefox, in alsamixer, master volume is up
[10:28] <SP33D> but how to update what to update
[10:28] <bekks> SP33D: Fix your sources.list then. BEfore running do-release-upgrade, uninstall every software from foreign PPA.
[10:29] <freefox> cristian_c: what are in the menus?
[10:29] <SP33D> NO WAY there is a UPDATE that fixes that
[10:29] <SP33D> how to install that and then normaly upgrade?
[10:29] <bekks> SP33D: Fix your sources.list then. BEfore running do-release-upgrade, uninstall every software from foreign PPA, then update.
[10:30] <SP33D> thats not true :( lol ok i do it that way but can't belive that stuff
[10:30] <bekks> SP33D: Running an upgrade with PPA enabled might break the update. Its up to you.
[10:30] <SP33D> there is probally a upgraded upgrade manager and then all works
[10:30] <SP33D> as befor
[10:31] <cristian_c> freefox, in the Output tab, Digital output (S/PDIF) is selected in the Port menù
[10:31] <cristian_c> *menu
[10:31] <SP33D> i don't understand why conical don't simply offers a fixed upgrade manager as normal update to 12.04
[10:32] <bekks> SP33D: MAybe they do, but thats not your issue at the moment. You issue is that you might break your upgrade when having PPA.
[10:32] <freefox> cristian_c: try changing it to others
[10:32] <freefox> cristian_c: and tick every tickbox you see
[10:33] <cristian_c> freefox, there is only that entry :(
[10:33] <cristian_c> I don't understand
[10:33] <Janith> Hello
[10:34] <Janith> Can anyone help me with my Ubuntu installation? :/
[10:34] <bekks> Janith: We dint know without you asking a specific question :)
[10:35] <Janith> Can anyone help me with my Ubuntu installation?
[10:35] <Janith> It says missing os
[10:35] <bekks> !details | Janith
[10:35] <Janith> I only have Ubuntu installed on my DD
[10:35] <freefox> cristian_c: what else do you see
[10:35] <cristian_c> freefox, some checkboxes
[10:36] <Janith> Nothing. Only a black Screen with "Missing Operating System"
[10:36] <bekks> Janith: When trying to boot?
[10:36] <Janith> yes
[10:36] <cristian_c> freefox, 'PCM', disabled, but checked. Then, 'AC3', 'EAC3', 'DTS', 'MPEG'
[10:36] <cristian_c> not checked
[10:36] <kaboba> check for active partition
[10:36] <bekks> Janith: Then there is no OS to be booted - did you check the boot order in your BIOS?
[10:37] <freefox> cristian_c: check everything
[10:37] <cristian_c> freefox, done
[10:37] <Janith> I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. It asked me to reboot. And yes, I did check the boot order.
[10:38] <mumpitzel> Janith: reinstall the grub2 bootloader
[10:38] <freefox> cristian_c: is the sound back?
[10:38] <kaboba> try boot from cd or flash and check partitions for active
[10:38] <Janith> How do I do that?
[10:38] <bekks> !grub2 | Janith
[10:38] <cristian_c> freefox, no
[10:38] <cristian_c> :(
[10:38] <SP33D> did switched back to standart source.list
[10:39] <SP33D> and still the error the error is not the sourcelist file
[10:39] <SP33D> :(
[10:39] <bekks> SP33D: Did you uninstall every software that was installed from a PPA?
[10:39] <Janith> It has no other OS except Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[10:39] <freefox> cristian_c: did you turn on all the sliders?
[10:39] <SP33D> yes
[10:39] <kaboba> i think the proble is in active partition
[10:39] <cristian_c> freefox, in pavucontrol?
[10:40] <cristian_c> or alsamixer?
[10:40] <SP33D> it would help if the error would tell me where it has exactly the read error in what file
[10:40] <Janith> By the way, I installed Ubuntu from a Flash Drive, through UNetBootin
[10:41] <freefox> cristian_c: try pavucontrol if alsa won't work
[10:42] <SP33D> ok readed the python file and there is info that i shall report that as bug bla bla
[10:43] <SP33D> funny
[10:43] <cristian_c> freefox, left front and right front slider are up until to 52%
[10:43] <mumpitzel> Janith: reinstall grub as ubottu showed you
[10:43] <cristian_c> *sliders
[10:44] <Janith> But, I don't have any other Operating Systems
[10:44] <freefox> cristian_c: make sure everything is turned on to max
[10:45] <freefox> cristian_c: and that every box is checked
[10:45] <mumpitzel> Janith: doesn't matter. something went wrong when installing grub. the fix is to install it again, as if you had installed another OS
[10:46] <cristian_c> freefox, when I reopen pavucontrol, 'EAC3', 'DTS' and 'MPEG' checkboxes are unchecked
[10:46] <cristian_c> freefox, in pavucontrol, there are only left and right sliders
[10:46] <Janith> Should  get Boot repair cd and boot from that?
[10:46] <Janith> * Should I
[10:47] <mumpitzel> Janith: you've been told what you should do. asking time and again won't change that
[10:48] <mumpitzel> Janith: all you need is your ubunut install CD using it the way you installed ubuntu
[10:48] <Janith> I have it on a USB Drive. and I did try re-installing it.
[10:49] <mumpitzel> Janith: then what was the output of grub-install ?
[10:49] <Janith> there's no such thing in the ubuntu setup o_o
[10:50] <mumpitzel> I'm sure there is. no one said you should install ubuntu again but install grub again. please read more carefully. and follow that link you were given by ubottu.
[10:50] <freefox> cristian_c: what are in the menus?
[10:51] <cristian_c> freefox, in the Output tab, there is only the Port menu
[10:51] <freefox> cristian_c: ok, what is in there?
[10:51] <SP33D> i cant change locale with export command
[10:51] <SP33D> -bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (de_DE.UTF-8)
[10:51] <cristian_c> freefox, and there is the Show menu, at the bottom
[10:51] <SP33D> what can coz that and how to fix?
[10:51] <cristian_c> freefox, onli spdif entry
[10:52] <cristian_c> *only
[10:52] <freefox> cristian_c: can you post a screenshot?
[10:52] <cristian_c> digital output (S/PDIF)
[10:52] <cristian_c> freefox, ok
[10:53] <mumpitzel> SP33D: what command did you give this error?
[10:56] <cristian_c> freefox, http://imagebin.org/264391
[10:56] <SP33D> mumpitz: thx a lot found the error
[10:56] <SP33D> and that fixed dist upgrade too
[10:57] <SP33D> simply needed to do locale-gen de_de.utf-8 and then
[10:57] <freefox> cristian_c: uhh, what language is this?
[10:57] <SP33D> it was aviable and then i could set it and then do releaseupgrade can reade source list
[10:57] <SP33D> :D
[10:57] <Janith> mumpitzel, it asks me if /dev is mounted
[10:57] <cristian_c> freefox, I've translated the screen in english
[10:58] <mumpitzel> Janith: it has to be for it to work, and be mounted inside the chroot
[10:58] <cristian_c> freefox, I can translate all the screen elements
[10:58] <Janith> How can I do that?
[10:58] <freefox> cristian_c: click on the lock button
[10:58] <freefox> cristian_c: try changing port
[10:58] <cristian_c> freefox, done, but always one port
[10:59] <cristian_c> *to
[10:59] <mumpitzel> Janith: by following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[10:59] <freefox> cristian_c: what is in configurazione?
[10:59] <xormor> cristian_c: is that italian?
[11:00] <cristian_c> freefox, configuration or settings, I suppose
[11:00] <gotwig> is there a PPA for Ubuntu Unity 8?
[11:00] <freefox> cristian_c: I mean what is in there?
[11:00] <cristian_c> or setup
[11:01] <cristian_c> freefox, internal audio
[11:01] <cristian_c> freefox, with Profile menu
[11:01] <freefox> cristian_c: that's it, now tweak those settings
[11:01] <Janith> mumpitzel, I typed "sudo grub-install /dev/sda3" on the terminal and it outputs "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (Is /dev mounted?)" That guide doesn't tell me how to mount /dev :S
[11:02] <cristian_c> Digital stereo  (IEC958) output + stereo analog input
[11:02] <freefox> cristian_c: change it
[11:02] <Erik_dc> Can someone please help me to get Netjack running?
[11:02] <Erik_dc> http://pastebin.com/neyhbZdC
[11:03] <cristian_c> freefox, I've edited it with 'digital stereo (IEC958) output'
[11:03] <cristian_c> but nothing changes
[11:03] <mumpitzel> Janith: then use grub-repair as shown on this page FIRST
[11:04] <cristian_c> If I select analog stereo input, Port tab is disabled
[11:04] <mumpitzel> Janith: and better learn how to use the terminal if you actually want to use it
[11:04] <freefox> cristian_c: is there built-in audio?
[11:04] <cristian_c> freefox, I don't see it
[11:04] <freefox> cristian_c: is there analog stereo duplex?
[11:05] <cristian_c> freefox, no :(
[11:05] <cristian_c> It's strange
[11:05] <freefox> cristian_c: now try restarting the pc
[11:05] <cristian_c> It should show it, but it doesn't
[11:05] <cristian_c> freefox, but I've not changed anything
[11:06] <freefox> cristian_c: it doesn't matter, just restart
[11:06] <cristian_c> ok
[11:06] <cristian_c> :(
[11:08] <Erik_dc> someone please?
[11:09] <freefox> yes?
[11:09] <Erik_dc> I can't get  Netjack running?
[11:09] <freefox> what is netjack?
[11:10] <Erik_dc> Jack audio, its to connect 2 computers over the network
[11:10] <Erik_dc> http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/WalkThrough/User/NetJack2
[11:10] <Erik_dc> been trying for more than a week now, and it used to work flawlessly
[11:11] <cristian_c> freefox, rebooted but no changes
[11:11] <Erik_dc> this is the response I get: http://pastebin.com/neyhbZdC
[11:17] <nomada_> hi , im having some problems installing yeoman, on a fresh install of ubuntu 13.04 , after installing nodejs from the repository, i run de command foun on yeoman.io , npm install -g yo ,, bue i get some erros
[11:17] <nomada_> so i run , it whit sudo
[11:17] <nomada_> and then it install ok
[11:18] <nomada_> but when i want to run yo, i get a lot of errors because ist not the correct way to instal yeoman, with sudo
[11:29] <iguardian_> hello everyone
[11:29] <earspliT> :)
[11:30] <iguardian_> i installed "sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone" (network etc is all setup correctly for this) but the thin clients when they boot, seem to have messed up graphics/things not loading. does one require a desktop gui installed on the server for it to work?
[11:32] <Voi> bump
[11:32] <Voi> i got ubuntu 13.04 gnome and the ubuntu software center its white font on white background, how do i change that?
[11:34] <Voi> oh, seems like i found the related bug report, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/899878
[11:36] <SP33D> i have a scary problem i wanna do a upgrade and then the upgrade fails coz quota ecxeeded but df -h tells me i use 5 gb out of 50 on the only aviable file system / and all is mounted to that
[11:36] <SP33D> what can be the problem? there is no swap or else
[11:36] <Voi> when i edit something in gedit using terminal with sudo, do i still have to use gsudo or how that was called, for "graphical sudo" like back in the old days
[11:43] <SP33D> ah simply stoped the quota service ^^
[11:44] <SP33D> voi: gksu is sudo graphicaly
[11:44] <SP33D> gk = graphikal su
[11:44] <SP33D> :D
[11:46] <jsg4> Ciao a tt
[11:50] <andiyeah> hello
[11:50] <andiyeah> i have a sitecom n300 wlan adapter which uses 8192cu drivers and it doesnt get recognized
[11:51] <andiyeah> i combed various forum threads, tried compiling the driver (which fails) from realtek website and even installed some deb from google code with dkms modules building but none works
[11:51] <andiyeah> i would really appreciate any help :)
[11:55] <andiyeah>  i tried both the deb from https://code.google.com/p/realtek-8188cus-wireless-drivers-3444749-ubuntu-1304/ as well as the drivers from the realtek website AND ndiswrapper which gives me a kernel panic ;X
[11:56] <ns7> can urandom produce randomness in a live cd like a normal installation?
[11:58] <nibbler_> ns7: urandom does not produce randomnes ever
[11:58] <maxvi> hi everybody! I have got an error when run software center. The error like this http://pastebin.com/eGdfSdV3 . Could anybody help me?
[11:59] <nibbler_> ns7: but its as good in a live environment as in a fixed intall. for security you should never use urandom, but random which relies on propoer entropy to produce randomness. mouse movements, keyboard input seems to be a good source
[12:00] <dgryski> anybody using the daily cloud images with vagrant? http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/raring/current/
[12:00] <ns7> nibbler_, ok, so i meant the random library which i assume Ubuntu uses during installation to hash keys
[12:01] <ns7> nibbler_, i have concerns regarding the randomness level of the keys
[12:03] <dgryski> ns7: are you being paranoid or do you have proof?
[12:05] <ns7> dgryski, i read an article about it but i can't find it again now
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> about what?
[12:06] <dgryski> MonkeyDust: low entropy keys on embedded systems
[12:06] <dgryski> https://factorable.net/paper.html
[12:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:08] <ns7> dgryski, Zvi Gutterman; Benny Pinkas, Tzachy Reinman (2006-03-06): http://www.pinkas.net/PAPERS/gpr06.pdf
[12:10] <dgryski> ns7: that paper is talking about a kernel released 8.5 years ago
[12:11] <HotSpuds> hello
[12:11] <nibbler_> but a live cd is not an embedded system, as even the installer has plenty of human interaction
[12:11] <dgryski> Try http://eprint.iacr.org/2012/251.pdf
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> take the low entropy key discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[12:12] <ns7> dgfdgf, ty
[12:12] <HotSpuds> can anyone make sense of- http://lowerstrata.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/canon-p-150-and-linux.html
[12:12] <HotSpuds> Having real trouble injecting the P150 SANE into 13.04 64bit
[12:14] <pshr> !info
[12:14] <pshr> !hello
[12:14] <pshr> !apt
[12:16] <HotSpuds> !hello
[12:17] <HotSpuds> !rules
[12:17] <pshr> !welcome
[12:17] <pshr> !help
[12:17] <HotSpuds> How do you inject the Canon P150 SANE? Having trouble making sense of [http://lowerstrata.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/canon-p-150-and-linux.html]
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> pshr  use /msg ubottu to test !factoids, please
[12:21] <pshr> ok MonkeyDust, :)
[12:29] <mackwerk_> Hi! I just installed ubuntu on my asus zenbook ux32vd and i installed powerstat because the battery time isn't very long. and it says avg watt usage is 16.20 which I think is kind o high regarding I only have that and xchat-gnome running :o
[12:30] <qiyong> hi, how do i find i386 pkgs i've installed, the system is amd64.
[12:34] <andiyeah> hello
[12:34] <andiyeah> i posted before about my problem with 8192cu driver
[12:34] <tozen> andiyeah: one again please
[12:35] <fluffypony> hrm
[12:35] <fluffypony> has something gone wrong with the apt sources?
[12:35] <fluffypony> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bind9/dnsutils_9.8.1.dfsg.P1-4ubuntu0.2_amd64.deb
[12:35] <fluffypony> amongst others, that 404's on multiple connections
[12:35] <andiyeah> tozen: compiling 8192cu driver fails
[12:36] <andiyeah> after that i installed this: https://code.google.com/p/realtek-8188cus-wireless-drivers-3444749-ubuntu-1304/
[12:36] <Equinox3> cannot install skype on 64 bit. This error shows up" skype : Depends: skype-bin
[12:36] <Equinox3> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[12:37] <andiyeah> my adapter doesnt get detected
[12:38] <fluffypony> wtf
[12:38] <fluffypony> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[12:38] <fluffypony> if you check the ubuntu subdirectory there
[12:38] <fluffypony> it's symlinked back up a folder
[12:38] <fluffypony> ie: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/
[12:38] <BluesKaj> havent added it to the 13.04 install yet
[12:38] <BluesKaj> oops wrong chan
[12:39] <tozen> andiyeah: what ubuntu do u use?
[12:39] <andiyeah> tozen: 13.04
[12:39] <tozen> kernel?
[12:40] <andiyeah> 3.8.0-19
[12:40] <Equinox3> does anyone have skype on 64 bit intel pentium 4 processors
[12:40] <Equinox3> my doesn't seem to want to install
[12:40] <fluffypony> Equinox3
[12:40] <fluffypony> have you tried to wget the deb?
[12:40] <Equinox3> tried the skype installation help on ubuntu.com. didn't help
[12:41] <fluffypony> I'm getting major issues on th e archive
[12:41] <fluffypony> *the
[12:41] <Equinox3> yes i'm trying that now
[12:41] <tozen> andiyeah:do not compile on ubuntu 13.04, kernels 3.8 or 3.9 - this is from first sentence
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> andiyeah  the kernel currently used is -26
[12:41] <andiyeah> tozen: if you read on you would see that it is a patched driver
[12:43] <qiyong> hi, how do i find i386 pkgs i've installed, the system is amd64.
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> qiyong  dpkg -l|grep i386
[12:45] <qiyong> MonkeyDust: i don't have any i386 pkgs, why apt-get update still tries i386 pkgs?
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> qiyong  maybe because you hace i386 sources
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> have*
[12:45] <fluffypony> this is fucked, how can there be no failover for the server?
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> fluffypony  mind your language
[12:46] <qiyong> MonkeyDust: you mean sources.list?
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> qiyong  yes
[12:46] <fluffypony> the devops at Canonical are really retarded at times
[12:46] <HotSpuds> what does parallel extraction mean?
[12:46] <fluffypony> someone needs to fire half of them and hire people who know what they're doing
[12:46] <qiyong> MonkeyDust: no
[12:46] <fluffypony> I believe the OpenBSD crowd are looking for work.
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> fluffypony  no rants here, please
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> qiyong  type sudo apt-get update|pastebinit and paste the url here in the channel
[12:49] <qiyong> MonkeyDust: W: Failed to fetch http://mirror/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> qiyong  it means you have that source activated, i guess
[12:52] <_name> can somebody help me with a java problem i'm having?
[12:52] <qiyong> MonkeyDust: no, i don't have any deb-i386 at all
[12:52] <qiyong> how can I debug?
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> qiyong  or a PPA maybe?
[12:52] <qiyong> what's PPA?
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> ok, so no
[12:53] <qiyong> i use my internal mirror
[12:53] <qiyong> this amd64 box
[12:53] <qiyong> so why it's fetching i386 files
[12:54] <qiyong> why i apache ps shows as: /usr/sbin/apach
[12:54] <qiyong> not apache2
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> qiyong  is that a 12.04 server?
[12:55] <qiyong> yes, the lts
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> qiyong  ok, better ask in #ubuntu-server, i'm sure they can help better
[12:58] <_name> can somebody help me with a java problem i'm having? i cant scroll in this java window i have
[12:58] <Biiboune> kk
[12:58] <Biiboune> k
[12:59] <Biiboune> k
[13:05] <BudTuba> Hi...I am a complete newbie and trying to get sound going on my laptop.
[13:07] <BudTuba> I started alsamixer and can see that the digital sound is muted, but cannot figure out how to unmute it.
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> BudTuba  use the arrow keys to go there and press m
[13:10] <BudTuba> That was good, but when I go to settings sound and test speakers there is no sound
[13:11] <BudTuba> Thank you MonkeyDust, but still no sound in settings-sound
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> BudTuba  system settings > sound, you mean?
[13:13] <tozen> BudTuba: show the screenshot of the alsamixer, please
[13:13] <BudTuba> yes sound settings volume test speakers = no sound
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> BudTuba  do you see on/off switch, up right?
[13:15] <BudTuba> tozen>  how to do that?
[13:15] <Casey> Trying to automount a raid1 volume during bootup. Can someone tell me if the last two lines (the raid volume) is type correctly in the fstab please  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5870022/
[13:17] <BudTuba> monkeydust>  do not see on-off switch in settings window
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> BudTuba  what's the output of     cat /etc/issue ?
[13:23] <kokoye2017> ls
[13:23] <BudTuba> MonkeyDust> Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[13:24] <SP33D> i cant find detail informations coz the name is a bit to often used
[13:24] <SP33D> what is packeg girl1.2 is it for gnome only?
[13:24] <SP33D> can i remove it on servers?
[13:28] <anonee> hello everyone, how to set LADSPA Plugin Multiband EQ as the default audio device for sound output instead of Built-in Audio Analog Stereo? the point is i wanna keep these settings after reboot
[13:31] <BluesKaj> anonee, are you using lva-md2 ?
[13:33] <Aviram> Hello, is anyone here?
[13:34] <BudTuba> MonkeyDust>Thanks anyway.  Gotta sign out and do some yard work.  Reading and watching this scroll is hard on old eyes.
[13:34] <defau> hello
[13:34] <jacks_cool> Getting an error message "Secure bott not enalbed"
[13:34] <Aviram> I'm having problems adding CouchPotatoServer to startup sequence
[13:34] <Aviram> I'm really clueless what I need to do..
[13:35] <Aviram> I mean, I've followed the web instructions fully and yet it doesn't start
[13:36] <glowe> Hey all! Im new to ubuntu and was wondering if anyone here can help me with a issue?
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> glowe  what issue?
[13:37] <BluesKaj> Aviram, don't see that in the repos , is it a ppa
[13:37] <glowe> I cant use my USB dongle
[13:37] <glowe> It isnt working
[13:37] <Aviram> No, It's an opensource git
[13:37] <glowe> I dont think the computer is recognizing the modem
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> !details | glowe
[13:38] <glowe> I have a problem with connecting to a mobile internet with my Huawei E1750
[13:39] <Aviram> BLuesKaj - When I put a script in init.d, does it run it as my user or as root?
[13:39] <SP33D> Can some one help me i search for a solution to lower the used disk inodes so i need to put many files in one file that is mount able
[13:40] <SP33D> it is enought when it is mount able read only but read and write would be realy well
[13:42] <BluesKaj> Aviram, it runs as gksudo in gui or command run, or sudo in the terminal , user with root permissions
[13:44] <Aviram> brb
[13:44] <glowe> I have a problem with connecting to a mobile internet with my Huawei E1750
[13:45] <freddofrog> all..I'm trying to do an install of 12.04.2 as a paravirt machine using virt-install.... the installer gets to the base system install but then bombs out when installing linux-headers-generic
[13:48] <BluesKaj> parevirt ? do you virtual box , freddofrog?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> mean
[13:49] <yahyaa> does anyone know of a app that I can use on kubuntu to load music onto my ipod???
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> !ipod
[13:49] <Pessimist> Can anyone link me a guide or tell me a program to help me with power management? For example, I want my laptop screen to dim a bit when I'm on a battery :)
[13:52] <adep1> hi
[13:53] <freddofrog> BluesKaj, no... Xen
[13:53] <optimusprimem> adep1, hi
[13:54] <mackwerk_> How can I set the default screen brightness in ubuntu 13 on a latop?
[13:55] <bluesun> mackwerk_, I'm not sure, but I think it's laptop-specific
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> Pessimist  mackwerk_ alt-f2 > dconf-editor > find brightness
[13:56] <qiyong> aptitude shows pkgs in arhcitecture: i386
[13:56] <qiyong> that status is 'p' though
[13:59] <Pessimist> I've added acpi_backlight=vendor to /etc/default/grub like in this url: http://askubuntu.com/questions/288265/display-brightness-problem-with-ubuntu-13-04 and then just used the function keys on the keyboard.
[14:00] <Pessimist> someone was asking the same question
[14:00] <adep1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5871124/
[14:00] <Solid1> anyone using weechat? is there any way, just like in irssi, to hide join/part messages?
[14:01] <SP33D> Big Problem i have no Loop device
[14:01] <SP33D> how can i handle that in ubuntu 13
[14:01] <SP33D> shouldn't it be in the kernel or such
[14:01] <glowe> Does anyone know how to get a usb internet to work?
[14:02] <glowe> Using 13.04
[14:02] <SP33D> glowe first of all you need to look with lsusb
[14:02] <SP33D> if the usb device gets regonized
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> Solid1  i use irssi myself, but found this http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/weechat_faq.en.html#filter_irc_join_part_quit
[14:02] <SP33D> thats the first step
[14:02] <DJones> Solid1: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/hide_join_part_messages#Weechat Hope this helps
[14:03] <glowe> Bus 03 Device 002 seems to find my Huawei
[14:04] <Solid1> thanks DJones
[14:04] <glowe> SP33D
[14:05] <Solid1> sorry didn't notice, thanks MonkeyDust
[14:05] <qiyong> where can I talk about apt internals?
[14:06] <anonee> BluesKaj I have no idea about that? I'm using ubuntu 12.04.2, GNOME 3.4 in fallback mode.. and winehq :)
[14:06] <linux> Hi Flood Bot1
[14:07] <anonee> oh BluesKaj u know i forgot which question was that, anyway I still don't know what is lva0-md2
[14:07] <anonee> lva-md2*
[14:07] <glowe> SP33D , do you know what i should do next?
[14:08] <linux> Dear BJF can you say how to increase my internet speed in Ubuntu
[14:08] <adep1> this command not work after logout   $ nohup gedit test.txt &
[14:08] <Aviram> How can I easily mount on startup extra partitions?
[14:09] <lizg> fstab
[14:09] <Aviram> I'm not sure about the options I should put..
[14:09] <linux> Aviram can you say how to boost up my internet speed
[14:10] <Aviram> linux buy a better connection? D:
[14:10] <qiyong> where can I talk about apt internals?
[14:10] <Aviram> lizg, How do I copy the options it uses for auto mount so it'll do it just on startup?
[14:10] <SP33D> glowe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Huawei
[14:11] <lizg> check partitions uuid first
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> Aviram  use sudo blkid to know the partition names, then add them in /etc/fstab
[14:12] <Aviram> MonkeyDust the options doesn't matter?
[14:12] <kr4zycoder> join #<gnome-love>
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> Aviram  if you're not sure, use 'defaults' as options    (without the quotes)
[14:13] <linux> I am using Huwai USB modem . But getting speed no more than 25 KB/PS
[14:14] <Aviram> MonkeyDust, I'm trying to do it through Disks gui
[14:14] <Aviram> I've turned off auto mount and ticked start on startup
[14:14] <Aviram> and let the settings stay as is
[14:14] <Aviram> but it wont mount :C
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> Aviram  why turned off automount?
[14:15] <lizg> visit http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[14:15] <Aviram> in order to tick mount on startup..
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> Aviram  first make it mount normally, then experiment with other options when it works
[14:16] <lizg> uuid is right?
[14:17] <AlexPortable> Is it possible to run ubuntu 13.04 without the left bar?
[14:17] <AlexPortable> and just bring back the old taskbar
[14:17] <k1l_> !nounity | AlexPortable
[14:18] <linux> Aviram, what do you mean by " buying better connection" ?
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  i use ubuntu classic/fallback, it looks like gnom2 and is very fast
[14:18] <StevenR> AlexPortable: I use xubuntu instead
[14:18] <BTZ> v
[14:18] <k1l_> AlexPortable: gnome-classic (gnome-fallback) is a gnome2 lookalike but its just reduced the settings from the panel. so you mitgh be better with xubuntu
[14:20] <AlexPortable> But I want the top panel
[14:20] <AlexPortable> and the nice looks like control panel
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  classic/fallback has it
[14:20] <drieran> Hi and great day! I installed ubuntu on my bbb and runs fine. Boot time is 8.8 seconds. Can I reduce 3 or 5 seconds the boot time ?
[14:20] <linux> Aviram I am using Ubuntu 13.04 and a prepaid mobile SIM connection. can I avail of much speed that it is now
[14:20] <AlexPortable> classic fallback also has the file, edit, view menu into the top bar?
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  install it and see if it suits you
[14:21] <AlexPortable> and if it doesn't ?
[14:21] <k1l_> AlexPortable: see http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[14:21] <AlexPortable> Then I will have to reinstall windows
[14:21] <AlexPortable> k1l_: they aren't good
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  what does windows have to do with it?
[14:21] <AlexPortable> MonkeyDust: i have now windows installed
[14:21] <AlexPortable> k1l_: I want the unity top bar, but not the left bar
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> !dualboot
[14:21] <AlexPortable> but a normal start menu
[14:21] <AlexPortable> MonkeyDust: no space on my hdd for another partition
[14:21] <k1l_> AlexPortable: you want the global-menu?
[14:22] <linux> Do you think Windows 7 is better than Ubuntu 13.04 ?
[14:22] <AlexPortable> i want the top bar with the file, edit, view
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> coffee over my laptop, brb
[14:22] <AlexPortable> and the down bar from gnome 2
[14:22] <k1l_> AlexPortable: you can make the left launcher invisible and use another launcher bar
[14:22] <AlexPortable> how?
[14:22] <k1l_> !ot | linux
[14:22] <linux> In windows I got speed boosting software like Internet cyclone. But here in nothing like hat
[14:23] <AlexPortable> k1l_: how do I install the gnome 2 launcher bar?
[14:23] <k1l_> AlexPortable: you can install another launcher app. like AWN or such
[14:24] <AlexPortable> Will that bring back the old fucntionality of gnome 2?
[14:24] <linux> Can anybody provide me OPEN DNS ?
[14:24] <AlexPortable> I want this http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-C57bmzKhdJQ/UVCIgFog_6I/AAAAAAAAncY/4yQ4-svcp7A/s1600/Screenshot+from+2013-03-25+13:14:47.png
[14:24] <AlexPortable> linux: opendns.org
[14:24] <k1l_> AlexPortable: which functionality of gnome2?
[14:25] <linux> How to install Mobile Broadband in Ununtu?
[14:25] <ahmednaguib> i add mincraft launcher and i can not remove it help
[14:25] <AlexPortable> k1l_: the down bar in that picture
[14:25] <AlexPortable> ahmednaguib: how you add it?
[14:25] <k1l_> AlexPortable: you want something else than that picture
[14:25] <cfhowlett> linux, ask your ISP
[14:25] <AlexPortable> k1l_: what do you mean?
[14:26] <k1l_> AlexPortable: dont think that this is a unity session
[14:26] <AlexPortable> k1l_: why do I want something else than that picture?
[14:26] <AlexPortable> it is
[14:26] <gustavo> Morning guys
[14:26] <ahmednaguib> through commands from OMG UBUNTU site
[14:26] <qiyong> i get i386 files in /var/lib/apt/lists, why?
[14:26] <k1l_> AlexPortable: but take a look at tint (which is another panel program)
[14:26] <AlexPortable> k1l_: it was possible in 12.10, but not in 13.04
[14:26] <linux> My primary aim is to boost up my dial up speed
[14:26] <AlexPortable> k1l_: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-T6gUUEJn7o4/UVCIiEQsebI/AAAAAAAAncg/chiQWcOhxvA/s1600/Screenshot+from+2013-03-25+13:12:10.png
[14:27] <bekks> linux: Get a faster connection then. :)
[14:27] <ahmednaguib> AlexPortable: can you help me
[14:27] <as2000> linux: thats the only way
[14:27] <cfhowlett> linux, dial-up?   in this day and age?  are there really no alternatives in your area?
[14:27] <linux> How can I get a faster connection ?
[14:27] <AlexPortable> ahmednaguib: then remove the commands
[14:27] <k1l_> AlexPortable: ask the one who made this pictures what he did exactly?
[14:27] <Diamondcite> linux: If you want a faster connection, and have access to a faster external server, consider compressed SSH Tunneling
[14:28] <as2000> linux: DSL, cable satellite...
[14:28] <bekks> linux: Ask your ISP, if you can get faster connection, and how much you will have to pay for it.
[14:28] <ahmednaguib> i did it with the tirmnal
[14:28] <linux> I have a DSL Modem , but can afford a broadband connection
[14:28] <ahmednaguib> and donot have the commands to remove it
[14:28] <AlexPortable> k1l_:
[14:28] <AlexPortable> http://wazem.blogspot.nl/2013/03/how-to-run-gnome-panels-in-unity-ubuntu.html
[14:28] <cfhowlett> linux, as you know, dial up is legacy technology.  I would be surprised if any kind of enhancement is under current development.
[14:29] <as2000> linux: ask your ISP, they may have a package you can afford
[14:29] <linux> In fact I want the optimum speed of dial up modem
[14:29] <Diamondcite> If you are using Dial-up with a 2nd phone line, DSL might be more affordable with a single phone line
[14:30] <as2000> linux: the best you will get is 56k, providing the telephone line is super clean
[14:30] <linux> Can I use DSL with Mobile Broadband ?
[14:30] <bekks> linux: No.
[14:30] <BluesKaj> 56K , more like 6k  :(
[14:30] <bekks> linux: DSL and Mobile Broadband are different techniques.
[14:30] <Diamondcite> linux: DSL is a technology, Mobile Broadband is something that goes over your cellphone connection and cannot be heard
[14:30] <as2000> BluesKaj: aye ;)
[14:30] <linux> In windows, I was told to switch off the security to increase the surfing speed.
[14:31] <as2000> linux: bad idea
[14:31] <Diamondcite> linux: That's because in windows it eats needless speed to make sure it's safe
[14:31] <cfhowlett> linux, bad command.  BAD!
[14:31] <bekks> linux: Which is a pretty idiotic idea in fact.
[14:31] <linux> I think ,If I could get at least 50 KB/PS that would be a great help to mine
[14:31] <Diamondcite> (Well eats depending on the anti virus or site filter app)
[14:31] <BluesKaj> as2000, my bell dialup back in the 90s adverted as 56K , in relaity the fastest we ever saw was 6k at best
[14:32] <as2000> linux: NEVER surf without security
[14:32] <AlexPortable> k1l_: but it's not possible in 13.04 somehow
[14:32] <cfhowlett> linux, as2000 +!
[14:32] <Diamondcite> linux: I don't know what your mobile brand plan is capable of. A line cannot go faster than it's limit without some form of compression
[14:32] <k1l_> !details | AlexPortable
[14:32] <LjL> linux: dialup is a different thing from DSL
[14:32] <bekks> linux: You will never get 50KB/s with a dial up connection, since 56kB/s is the theoretical maximum.
[14:32] <AlexPortable> k1l_: ?
[14:32] <antithesis> Hello
[14:32] <linux> But in Ubuntu where is such  security ?
[14:32] <k1l_> AlexPortable: "what" is "where" not possible
[14:32] <Diamondcite> bekks: Please watch your case sensitive?
[14:33] <antithesis> How come https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/946956 still isn't solved?
[14:33] <cfhowlett> antithesis, greetings
[14:33] <anonee> linux can you try your modem on another OS now?
[14:33] <k1l_> AlexPortable: if i tell you "my car just doesnt work" you wouldnt know what to fix, too :)
[14:33] <bekks> Diamondcite: I know that, thats why I wrote exactly what I wrote ;)
[14:33] <LjL> bekks: but it's wrong
[14:33] <Diamondcite> bekks: Really? It's the kB = Kb?
[14:33] <BluesKaj> linux, if you a DSL option , it's worth the cost
[14:34] <BluesKaj> have
[14:34] <as2000> BluesKaj: best dialup connection I ever got was somewhere around that proividing it did not rain.
[14:34] <fjodor> which filesystem should i choose if i want to install ubuntu directly onto an usb stick?
[14:34] <anonee> linux because companies usually reduce the speed when the credit is over
[14:34] <AlexPortable> k1l_: all websites I see, if you install gnome-panel, it removes unity
[14:34] <bekks> Diamondcite: Nope. kilobyte is different from kilobit. :)
[14:34] <BluesKaj> as2000, :)
[14:34] <cfhowlett> !usb|fjodor,
[14:34] <Diamondcite> Since we don't know where in the West Asian Continent linux is, it's hard to see that person's available options
[14:34] <antithesis> How come https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/946956 still isn't solved?
[14:34] <AlexPortable> k1l_: I don't have full details yet since I don't want to wipe windows, and then find out it may not be possible
[14:35] <Diamondcite> bekks: But a 56k dial up modem only does 56kbit...
[14:35] <k1l_> AlexPortable: no, thats not true.
[14:35] <hurrycane> o!
[14:35] <fjodor> cfhowlett: no persistent live usb
[14:35] <hurrycane> ciao
[14:35] <linux> I use prepaid connection
[14:35] <fjodor> cfhowlett: no live install, pure install
[14:35] <anonee> linux so make sure this isn't the case, just try it on another OS (an OS the you know for sure that works)
[14:35] <k1l_> AlexPortable: please come back if you have a actuall issue.
[14:35] <as2000> linux: invest in DSL, check for a package. In the long run you will not regret it and NEVER go without security
[14:35] <bekks> Diamondcite: yeah, and he wants 50 kilobyte per second, which is impossible with a 56 kilobit modem.
[14:35] <anonee> linux I know it's prepaid, when your prepaid credit is over, they don't stop your connection, they just leave you with this basic speed
[14:36] <linux> But the modem shows at the most 7.5 MB/PS speed
[14:37] <as2000> Mobile broadband speed also depends your approximate location to the cell tower. I have seen dialup speeds with that service
[14:37] <Diamondcite> linux: Please consider using the /nick command to pick a new name.. too many highlights..
[14:37] <linux> Do you have any such domain like : http://192.168.1.1
[14:37] <anonee> linux my opinion is just try another OS, or check your credit online if possible.
[14:37] <auronandace> linux: that is a local network
[14:37] <AlexPortable> k1l_: ok. my issue is that software center can't find gnome-panel
[14:37] <bekks> linux: Thats not a domain, but an URL pointing to an IP.
[14:38] <as2000> linux: that is an internal ip address such as your router
[14:38] <linux> yah, I am saying it
[14:38] <k1l_> AlexPortable: not true :)
[14:39] <linux> You told me to change the OS, but I became very much fond of Ubuntu, instead of slow speed
[14:39] <AlexPortable> k1l_: should I provide with screenshot?
[14:39] <linux> yes
[14:40] <k1l_> AlexPortable: i can prove you are wrong: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=raring&searchon=names&keywords=gnome-panel
[14:40] <Diamondcite> Trying to speed up a connection by more than 50% is offend very difficult...
[14:40] <Diamondcite> err offend=often
[14:40] <auronandace> !info gnome-panel | AlexPortable
[14:40] <k1l_> AlexPortable: even tested it here on 13.10 so again: im talking about a made up problem anymore
[14:40] <as2000> linux: OS not going affect speed all that much. Stay with Ubuntu if you enjoy it. Just get a better internet connection
[14:41] <Diamondcite> AlexPortable: How about trying sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[14:41] <linux> I am staying in a remote village  where a speedy connection is impossible
[14:42] <auronandace> linux: we can't do anything about that
[14:42] <linux> So, you better tell me from the beginning, how to set up my Mobile Broad band connection ?
[14:42] <Diamondcite> Asking dial up to go 700% faster is also impossible
[14:42] <AlexPortable> Diamondcite: ah after apt-get update it works
[14:42] <linux> Is there nothing like speed boosting software ?
[14:42] <as2000> linux: ok then satellite or DSL is probably your choices. DSL would be less expensive and more reliable than satellite.
[14:42] <ns7> How can I force a program which listens on one port to use a different port?
[14:43] <cfhowlett> linux, someone suggested you ask your ISP ... oh, wait.  That was me!@
[14:43] <Diamondcite> linux: Last time I used a Huawei 1691 USB Modem, I pluged it in, setup the settings under Mobile Broadband in network manager, and it worked.
[14:43] <mirak> hi
[14:43] <cfhowlett> mirak, greetiings
[14:44] <Diamondcite> linux: in my case I needed a username of "My cellphone number with spaces", a password of "myPin" and the correct "broadband.apn"
[14:44] <mirak> is there an incremental backup tool that allows unlike dejadup to easily acces the files ?
[14:44] <linux> If I connect the the DSL modem without connection then too the AUTO ETHERNET SHOWS THAT IT IS CONNECTED
[14:44] <bekks> mirak: rdiff-backup
[14:44] <Diamondcite> linux: A DSL modem is USELESS without a DSL plan and a phone line WITH DSL activated
[14:44] <as2000> linux did you register the MAC address with the ISP?
[14:44] <Diamondcite> linux: All you are getting is the modem's built in router which doesn't go anywhere.
[14:45] <linux> I do not know what is MAC address ?
[14:45] <Diamondcite> as2000: MAC address? Only Cable is supposed to need that. DSL is supposed to be based on login names and physical phone cards
[14:46] <as2000> linux: there should be a sticker on the bottom of the unit with the MAC address listed. ISP needs that to see it on the system
[14:47] <as2000> Diamondcite: ISP needs that to register device on network. At least that has been my experience
[14:47] <mirak> bekks, the default backup is dejadupe in ubuntu right ?
[14:47] <auronandace> as2000: that assumes you are using a router supplied by your isp (not everyone does)
[14:47] <linux> Then finally what do you suggest? shall I change my OS  or shall  put al;l effort to bnoost up speed again
[14:47] <Diamondcite> as2000: I guess different regions have different techs.
[14:48] <as2000> DSL modems need unique identification on network
[14:48] <Diamondcite> as2000: For me as long as I have an active DSL line, I can buy a modem from a brick and mortar store and it just works
[14:48] <Diamondcite> as2000: I am SURE you are thinking about Cable
[14:48] <bekks> mirak: I dont know. I pretty never using "default" tools, but I choose my tools on my own.
[14:48] <as2000> Diamondcite: hmm maybe so
[14:49] <Diamondcite> as2000: DSL needs a Physical line card to work. While on cable, you just need to bring your physical cable modem with you. (Assuming it's the same sub division)
[14:49] <linux> I do have my Windows-8 OS , but uninstalled it after getting Ubuntu
[14:49] <Diamondcite> linux: What are you running to use this IRC channel, RIGHT NOW?
[14:49] <as2000> Diamondcite: then they probably have autodetect for the MAC. I will have to research that. Thanks
[14:49] <linux> THAT HUWAI USB MODEM WITH A VODAFONE SIM CARD
[14:50] <cfhowlett> !SHOUT
[14:50] <linux> sorry friend
[14:50] <cfhowlett> linux, no harm no foul
[14:51] <BluesKaj> as2000, IME MAC addresses are only required for wifi connection ID
[14:51] <linux> would youn mine saying that how long does it take in transmitting my words to you ?
[14:51] <auronandace> linux: there is no trick to speed up your connection. the speed you get is the speed you get
[14:51] <BluesKaj> be it DSL or cable
[14:51] <Diamondcite> linux: Are you on Windows 8? Ubuntu? Some cellphone?
[14:51] <as2000> or Mobile broadband ;)
[14:52] <linux> I am in Ubuntu 13.04
[14:52] <linux> and Mobile Broadband with USB modem
[14:52] <as2000> linux: then your speed is dependent on the proximity of the cell tower
[14:52] <mirak> bekks, i am not sure if i should use ntfs or ext4, what do you use ?
[14:53] <bekks> mirak: Using it for what?
[14:53] <BluesKaj> I'm old fashioned , my cellphone is just a phone here , as2000
[14:53] <linux> Tower is within one kilometer from my PC
[14:53] <Diamondcite> linux: So you are already in it..not sure how we can teach you to use something you are already using..
[14:53] <Diamondcite> Now I am just very confused...
[14:53] <auronandace> Diamondcite: he wants it to go faster
[14:53] <mirak> bekks, for a backup drive
[14:54] <linux> No I am being confused when it shows Auto ethernet
[14:54] <mirak> bekks, obviously ext4 would be safer, but, at the same time you can use only linux
[14:54] <Diamondcite> Tracking down the your ISP, you seem to have an ISP that offers everything from GRPS to 3G to LTE  AND a Fixed line broadband?
[14:54] <mirak> in case of
[14:54] <linux> Mine is Vodafone Lite
[14:54] <Diamondcite> linux: Really? I see airtel for India..
[14:55] <as2000> linux: it is what it is, there is no magic software to help your situation. Improve your connection by changing it
[14:55] <bekks> mirak: In terms of security, there is no difference. In terms of usability, there is. NTFS cant handle POSIX file extensions, so I am not using, especially for backup purposes.
[14:55] <AlexPortable> How do I remove write protection from usb stick?
[14:55] <mirak> you mean preserve the rights bekks ?
[14:56] <linux> But I think after having incessant conversation with you that my internet speed is sufficient enought to communicate accross the Sea
[14:56] <bekks> mirak: Correct.
[14:56] <mirak> bekks, i think i will just use ext4, otherwise I might be tempted to bring the disk outside of my home
[14:57] <mirak> lol
[14:57] <linux> Yet, now I guess you have a lot of knowledge regarding OS and connection , so please get in touch with me via my email id: If you dont mind I can share it with you
[14:58] <linux> I just wanna test how long does it take to reach you
[14:59] <Diamondcite> (Wow it's expensive!) [In relative currency] 198 for 2GB of 2G mobile broadband VS 699 for 2Mbit DSL wth 3GB limit.
[14:59] <Diamondcite> linux: You can use ping for that
[14:59] <linux> what is ping ?
[15:00] <maroloccio> a command
[15:00] <Diamondcite> --- Ping reply from linux : 1.91 second(s)
[15:00] <cfhowlett> linux, speedtest.net will give you a nice rundown
[15:00] <as2000> in the terminal
[15:00] <linux> What can I do with it ?
[15:00] <maroloccio> man ping
[15:01] <maroloccio> open terminal, type this: man ping
[15:01] <Diamondcite> linux: It took 1.9 seconds for me to send a line of text to you and for that text to get back to me.
[15:01] <as2000> cfhowlett: I was going to say that :)
[15:01] <linux> From where can I open the terminal ?
[15:01] <Diamondcite> Press CTRL + ALT + T
[15:01] <linux> Let me note it
[15:01] <Diamondcite> Or click on that black box on the left =P
[15:02] <linux> okay I reduced it in writing
[15:02] <as2000> or the super(windows) key
[15:02] <as2000> then type terminal
[15:02] <linux> Yas got the windows key
[15:03] <Casey> Trying to automount a raid1 volume during bootup. Can someone tell me if the last two lines (the raid volume) is type correctly in the fstab please  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5870022/
[15:03]  * Diamondcite hands as2000 the baton and moves off.
[15:04] <as2000> LOL!!! Diamondcite
[15:04] <Casey> correction. this is the right link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5871317/
[15:04] <linux> I worte man ping. what to do next ?
[15:04] <bekks> linux: press enter
[15:04] <Casey> linux: type 192.168.1.1
[15:06] <linux> In the last line it shows"manual page ping(8)
[15:06] <clue_h> did you read the manual
[15:07] <linux> yes. And the last one is Availability
[15:07] <bekks> linux: Did you read whats been shown after "man ping"?
[15:07] <bekks> linux: That page explained what ping does.
[15:08] <mirak> bekks, about permissions by the way, what permission do you access your backup disk with ?
[15:08] <linux> system Manager's Manual iputils
[15:08] <AlexPortable> How do I change gnome-panel settings?r
[15:08] <AlexPortable> rightclick isn't working
[15:08] <bekks> mirak: using sudo.
[15:09] <mirak> bekks, is there anyway to prevent a stupid rm -fr / done by root or your own user ?
[15:09] <bekks> mirak: By default, that doesnt work anymore.
[15:09] <mirak> bekks, can you elaborate ?
[15:09] <bekks> mirak: And the prevention is: have a backup.
[15:09] <mirak> lol
[15:09] <mirak> bekks, a backup unpluggued as little as possible
[15:09] <linux> Now should I press "h" or "q" ?
[15:09] <mirak> bekks, or on the network
[15:10] <clue_h> linux, q
[15:10] <mirak> ?
[15:10] <gordonjcp> mirak: yes, actually
[15:10] <gordonjcp> mirak: but don't try it in case it doesn't work
[15:10]  * as2000 is working on a second cup of coffee
[15:11] <linux> Now a second line appears  showing : linus-system-product-name:-S
[15:11] <clue_h> it's the bash prompt that takes commands you type
[15:11] <mirak> gordonjcp, but if you use sudo and copy the same right than your owner, then why not just copy with the user directly ?
[15:12] <linux> what should I do next ?
[15:12] <gordonjcp> mirak: I don't understand the question
[15:12] <barnji> Hello, I just pulled a dork move and chown -R'd my entire /media directory.  Can anyone tell me who the default owner:group is?
[15:13] <mirak> gordonjcp, sorry i wanted to adress it to bekks
[15:13] <bekks> mirak: Because I am taking backups as root, not user.
[15:13] <linux> clue are u there ?
[15:13] <mirak> barnji, drwxr-xr-x   5 root root
[15:14] <clue_h> linux, yes, but i am not sure why you want to ping
[15:14] <barnji> Thank you
[15:14] <AlexPortable> How do I change gnome-panel settings?r
[15:14] <linux> Because you guided me so ?
[15:14] <jrib> barnji: /media itself has a default owner/group.  But there isn't one for anything under that.
[15:14] <linux> Now tell me where shoud I write 192.168.1.1
[15:15] <bekks> linux: Why do you want to ping?
[15:15] <clue_h> linux, i arrived later. to ping, type: ping followed by the ip address you just typed
[15:15] <barnji> i have windows partition  that was chowned in media and System Reserved directory with bootmgr in it
[15:16] <bekks> barnji: you cant chown NTFS, since NTFS does not know what linux permissions are.
[15:16] <linux> is it ? ping 198.168.1.1
[15:16] <clue_h> yes
[15:17] <linux> shall I enter
[15:17] <clue_h> linux, yes. are you testing connectivity?
[15:17] <barnji> @bekks good to know, any idea about the bootmgr? I presume root:root as well
[15:17]  * as2000 pinged linux 2.21 secs.
[15:17] <bekks> barnji: Thats a NTFS partition too.
[15:17] <barnji> ahh okay
[15:18] <barnji> great
[15:18] <barnji> thank you
[15:18] <linux> It is showing 56(84) bytes of date
[15:18] <linux> what does it mean ?
[15:18] <bekks> linux: Its showing even more. It shows you the amount of time needed to get an answer from 192.168.1.1
[15:19] <linuxgirl> 192.168.1.1 destination unreachable?
[15:19] <linux> Linuxgirl then which is reachable one ?
[15:19] <bekks> linux: We dont know which IPs you have in your home network.
[15:20] <clue_h> are you trolling lol
[15:20] <as2000> linux: why are you pinging your router?
[15:21] <linuxgirl> what is router?
[15:21] <as2000> linuxgirl: the device that routes traffic on your home/business network
[15:22] <UbUnTiViTy> Hello
[15:22] <UbUnTiViTy> Is this the proper channel to ask about Ubuntu Touch???
[15:22] <gordonjcp> UbUnTiViTy: no, #ubuntu-touch is
[15:23] <linuxgirl> as2000 thanks!
[15:24] <Craig`> Hey guys. I just recently bought a new DVD drive and can't seem to find it. I bought it because my old one broke and I probably changed a whole bunch of settings a while ago to try and get it working. I can't find it in /media (there's no cdrom0 etc)
[15:25] <UbUnTiViTy> Thanks, gordonjcp
[15:25] <Craig`> plus when I inserted the disc I didn't hear any noises, and this drive is meant to be noisy
[15:25] <as2000> Craid: does lspci show anything in the terminal?
[15:26] <as2000> sorry all, my fat fingers on the keyboard ;)
[15:26] <Craig`> heh. no, it says nothing about cd rom
[15:27] <Craig`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5871391/
[15:30] <as2000> Craig: lsusb?
[15:31] <as2000> Craig sorry, its lsusb -tv
[15:31] <Craig`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5871406/ -- I don't see any mention
[15:32] <glda19> how can i reset java settings firefox so that i get the dialogbox
[15:32] <qiyong> service or start/stop, which toolset is the go?
[15:32] <DarkFox> Hello
[15:33] <DarkFox> Couple of tthings...
[15:33] <as2000> Craig: is it mounted?
[15:33] <DarkFox> One I can't do ctrl-alt up but I can do the rest to  move from workspace to workspace. Is there any other way to get up? (Currently I am clicking on firefox on the launcher as it's on the top right)
[15:33] <Craig`> I just bought this drive, my old one stopped working so I probably came here for help ages ago, probably unmounted it and all sorts
[15:33] <Craig`> as2000: when I google they say how to mount it, but there's nothing in /media relating to cdrom
[15:34] <glda19> how can i reset java on firexfox so ive got the dialogbox back
[15:35] <DarkFox> secondly, is there any reason to why my btrfs filesystem won't mount ? I have a file on windows -> archlinux.vhd, I have done losetup -f --show archlinux.vhs; partx -f --show /dev/loop1; cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/loop1p2 archroot; but I can't mount -t btrfs /dev/mapper/archroot /mnt/arch
[15:36] <DarkFox> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/archroot,mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/archroot, etc etc
[15:36] <DarkFox> useless information there and in dmesg I get
[15:36] <DarkFox> [ 1866.878698] device fsid 57bdb7fc-12df-4d8f-b570-2db6bf8cb13d devid 1 transid 41 /dev/mapper/archroot
[15:36] <DarkFox> [ 1866.881450] btrfs: disk space caching is enabled
[15:36] <DarkFox> Anyone have any suggestions for either of these issues?
[15:37] <Craig`> my main problem is that i'm wanting to install windows for steam gaming, but I wasn't able to boot from usb so I had to resort to CDs, but my old drive didn't work, or so I thought that's what the reason was.. so I bought a new one.. changed a bunch of settings before buying a new one though
[15:37] <glda19> how can i reset java on firefox
[15:38] <DarkFox> Craig`: For steam I suggest trying archlinux; but again in #ubuntu I could suggest ubuntu but I don't have any experience with it for any recent year.
[15:38] <DarkFox> I know it works on arch though :)
[15:39] <verysoftoiletppr> trying to chsh -s /usr/bin/fish
[15:39] <jhutchins> glda19: Nobody knows what you mean by "reset java on firefox".
[15:39] <verysoftoiletppr> with sudo chsh -s /usr/bin/fish user
[15:39] <verysoftoiletppr> I get chsh: PAM authentication failed
[15:39] <as2000> Steam is in the Ubuntu repository
[15:39] <verysoftoiletppr> trying to chsh -s /usr/bin/fish
[15:39] <verysoftoiletppr> I get You may not change the shell for 'user'.i
[15:39] <verysoftoiletppr> help
[15:40] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: can you log in as the user?
[15:40] <verysoftoiletppr> jrib I'm logged in as user
[15:40] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: pastebin full input and output
[15:40] <DarkFox> glda19: restart firefox?
[15:40] <DarkFox> glda19: rm ~/.java*
[15:41] <glda19> darfdox and than
[15:41] <DarkFox> verysoftoiletppr: sudo chsh -s /usr/bin/fish user
[15:41] <DarkFox> glda19: you weren't clear with your question I assume you wish to clear the java cache?
[15:42] <qiyong> what is var/log/user.log for?
[15:42] <glda19> DarkFox: i think it
[15:43] <glda19> DarkFox: how do i do that
[15:43] <verysoftoiletppr> DarkFox jrib http://pastebin.com/ThMfHAsZ
[15:43] <DarkFox> glda19: find ~ -exec grep java :
[15:43] <glda19> and
[15:43] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: getent passwd user
[15:44] <glda19> DarkFox: how do i clear java cache
[15:44] <verysoftoiletppr> jrib user:x:1000:1000:user,,,:/home/user:/usr/local/bin/fish
[15:44] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: /usr/local/bin/fish isn't in /etc/shells so you can't use chsh
[15:44] <DarkFox> glda19: you delete it
[15:45] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: you should be able to "sudo -i" and do it though (make sure you specify target user)
[15:45] <verysoftoiletppr> jrib chsh: PAM authentication failed
[15:45] <DarkFox> God I hate ubuntu
[15:45] <DarkFox> :(
[15:45] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: -ENOCONTEXT
[15:46] <DarkFox> archlinux, freebsd, gentoo, slackware, debian. ALL WORK FINE
[15:46] <DarkFox> lol
[15:46] <verysoftoiletppr> jrib what is that
[15:46] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: if you're having trouble with the "sudo -i" suggestion, add the path to your current log-in shell to /etc/shells or edit /etc/passwd (carefully) by hand
[15:47] <DarkFox> Anyone have any suggestion for my btrfs mounting issue?
[15:47] <auronandace> DarkFox: btrfs is still considered not stable
[15:48] <diren_antakia> Hi! Somebody can read my message?
[15:48] <auronandace> diren_antakia: plenty can
[15:48] <diren_antakia> auronandace: thank you.
[15:49] <verysoftoiletppr> jrib the problem was the lack of my current login shell on /etc/shells
[15:49] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: right
[15:49] <verysoftoiletppr> I deleted my current when adding the new one
[15:50] <DarkFox> Wow
[15:50] <DarkFox> auronandace: Works everywhere else
[15:50] <DarkFox> auronandace: Should mount at least
[15:50] <DarkFox> it won't
[15:50] <verysoftoiletppr>  jrib , DarkFox thanks for your helps
[15:50] <diren_antakia> Can somebody please tell me what is the kingsoft-office_9.1.0.4096~a11p1_x86.tar.xz which is a link from this page: http://wps-community.org/download.html . this is a portable version? or a source code which we will compile to install it?
[15:50] <DarkFox> verysoftoiletppr: :)
[15:50] <test1304> please help macchanger dont work ubuntu 13.04
[15:51] <auronandace> DarkFox: i just want you to be aware that it shouldn't be used for production stuff
[15:51] <auronandace> DarkFox: yet
[15:51] <DarkFox> auronandace: I've been using it for over a year with archlinux on encrypted partitions.
[15:51] <DarkFox> No problems with it
[15:51] <DarkFox> Zero and I have backups
[15:52] <DarkFox> I'm on my school's laptop. I have been permitted to dualboot but not re-partition this thing.
[15:52] <auronandace> DarkFox: you are aware it is still under development?
[15:53] <DarkFox> I wish to get archlinux booting but due to the lack of documentation for booting virtual disks form microsoft's bootloader I jumped over to wubi knowing it works and I'm almost there just need to access my filesystem.
[15:53]  * DarkFox could boot arch usb to fix this but I want to get it to work on ubuntu
[15:53] <auronandace> DarkFox: seriously, stay away from wubi, its a maintainence nightmare
[15:53] <test1304> please help macchanger dont work ubuntu 13.04 any other way to CHANGE MAC ADDRESS 13.04 ?
[15:54] <DarkFox> auronandace: Not so bad with what needs to be done
[15:54] <auronandace> DarkFox: wubi support is being completely dropped
[15:54] <DarkFox> I understand how it's booting. I don't intend to keep with ubuntu just need to use it as a fallback until I have my arch booting fine
[15:54] <clue_h> test1304, have you tried to edit your connection in network manager by choosing 'cloned mac address'
[15:54] <DarkFox> auronandace: I'm on ubuntu 12.04 - LTS I shouldn't have lost support ?
[15:54] <test1304> yes
[15:55] <test1304> it doesnt work too
[15:55] <DarkFox> Just cause booted through wubi doesn't mean that you can't help with mounting my btrfs filesystem that I have already exposed from my partitioned virtual hard disk that lives on window's HDD
[15:56] <auronandace> DarkFox: for 12.04 wubi is only supported 18 months
[15:56] <DarkFox> For a distro with such heavy funding I would have expected better support
[15:57] <diren_antakia> Can somebody please tell me what is the kingsoft-office_9.1.0.4096~a11p1_x86.tar.xz which is a link from this page: http://wps-community.org/download.html . this is a portable version? or a source code which we will compile to install it?
[15:57] <DarkFox> auronandace: Ubuntu is ubuntu. Regarless on version, it should mount my btrfs
[15:58] <DarkFox> Why are we arguing? No sollutions or suggestions...
[15:59] <DarkFox> Also I bet wubi was maintnence hell because no one undderstood how it worked underneith and wouldn't be able to support it
[15:59] <test1304> ubuntu 13.04 is working like "POOR MAN'S WINDOWS 95"
[15:59] <DarkFox> test1304: That sounds accurate
[16:00]  * DarkFox will return back to archlinux soon. This ubuntu environment and suport-standards are really surprising me for one of the largest channels on this network.
[16:01] <DarkFox> Atleast arch has excelent support and if something breaks. It wasn't the developers. But rather the user or upstream (in which case would affect only testing and be patched quickly)
[16:01] <DarkFox> and the wiki is useful
[16:01] <DarkFox> /end ubuntu rant
[16:03] <auronandace> !btrfs | DarkFox
[16:03] <xangua> how can i disable firefox download notification popup¿ or at least put them where they were by default; they wer on the bottom and now after firefox 21 or 22 was released they are now on the top
[16:03] <jrib> DarkFox: boot a live cd and see if your problem persists (I don't see why it would though).  Anyway, let's try to stick to support.  Ask your question, use a pastebin for details etc.  btrfs is still under dev (feel free to use it, just know that if you didn't already) and wubi was never recommended by most here.  I don't even know what your issue is after reading like 20 lines of scrollback
[16:04] <DarkFox> auronandace: If so experimental and I've been using it for over a year (maybe 2) with no problems and with a forever up to date environment as "unstable" as archlinux. NEVER BROKEN
[16:04] <DarkFox> jrib: I'll use the paste
[16:04] <diren_antakia> Can somebody please tell me what is the kingsoft-office_9.1.0.4096~a11p1_x86.tar.xz which is a link from this page: http://wps-community.org/download.html . this is a portable version? or a source code which we will compile to install it?
[16:04] <auronandace> DarkFox: at the end of that factoid is a wiki page, that was why i showed it to you, hopefully something helpful on there for you
[16:05] <DJones> DarkFox: Ubuntu isn't archlinux so please don't compare the two, its considered experimental in UBuntu, so you have to treat it as such
[16:05] <auronandace> diren_antakia: that page also has a deb
[16:06] <auronandace> diren_antakia: just so you know, installing anything outside of the repos won't get any support here
[16:07] <robertzaccour> Is Ubuntu LTS based on Debian testing?
[16:08] <auronandace> diren_antakia: any reason you want kingsoft? (its still in alpha) what is wrong with libreoffice?
[16:08] <xangua> !lts | robertzaccour
[16:08] <auronandace> !debian | robertzaccour
[16:08] <robertzaccour> xangua: But is it based on Debian testing?
[16:09] <test1304> ubuntu 13.04 is working like "POOR MAN'S WINDOWS 95" ubuntu 12.04 is good
[16:09] <DarkFox> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5871508/
[16:09] <auronandace> test1304: do you have a support issue?
[16:09] <robertzaccour> auronandace: That's not what I asked. I asked if LTS is based on Debian testing.
[16:09] <diren_antakia> auronandace: i know has a deb package. i ask before i want to learn.
[16:09] <DJones> test1304: If you're going to make comments like that, at least add "that from your persepective, " 13.04 works perfectly for a lot of people
[16:09] <DarkFox> jrib: I unmounted everything and restarted for the logs
[16:10] <xangua> robertzaccour: yes it is "Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process."
[16:10] <DarkFox> well closed luks and the loopback
[16:10] <diren_antakia> auronandace: i know it woruld not support here, but i am asking if it is portable or a source code or something.
[16:10] <diren_antakia> auronandace: i did not ask how to install.
[16:10] <robertzaccour> xangua: So regular releases are based on Debian unstable correct?
[16:11] <xangua> robertzaccour: i just said yes it is what you asked
[16:11] <auronandace> diren_antakia: ask in kingsoft support, its their website
[16:11] <jrib> DarkFox: presumably, the exact same incantation works on your arch install?  If I had to guess, it's an issue with the version you are using on ubuntu being too old since 12.04 is over a year old
[16:11] <jrib> "couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (40)"
[16:11] <xangua> robertzaccour: do you have a apecific ubuntu support issue¿
[16:11] <test1304> MACCHANGER does not work ubuntu 13.04
[16:11] <DarkFox> jrib: I'm waiting for the apt-get upgrade still
[16:12] <jrib> DarkFox: what are you upgrading to?
[16:12] <DarkFox> jrib: erm
[16:12] <qiyong> service or start/stop, which toolset is the go?
[16:12] <DarkFox> did apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[16:12] <DJones> diren_antakia: Apart from some spam from the developers, I've not seen any comments about kingsoft office in here, so I can't see there being many people having used it, as auronandace said, you're best bet is to check with kingsofts own support network
[16:12] <DarkFox> Am I doing that incorrectly or were you thinking I did a dist-upgrade?
[16:13] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | DarkFox
[16:13] <jrib> DarkFox: that's fine.  I just wanted to understand what you were doing more clearly.  You might consider https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack to get a more recent kernel on there.  I'm not familiar enough with btrfs to tell you exactly what you need.  But if you could figure out exactly what options aren't supported that you enabled, that would obviously be a great help
[16:14] <qiyong> will upstart replace sysvinit?
[16:14] <jrib> qiyong: it already has...
[16:14] <robertzaccour> xangua: I first asked if Ubuntu LTS is based on Debian testing. You replied its based on Debian (Didin't specify testing or not, which was my exact question). I then asked if regular releases are based on Debian unstable. Again, you told me they're based on Debian, not specifically answering my question on if its based on testing or unstable.
[16:14] <auronandace> qiyong: it already has, for quite some time now
[16:14] <jrib> !upstart | qiyong
[16:14] <DarkFox> jrib: I haven't enabled anything but compress=lzo but that's a runtime mount option
[16:15] <qiyong> jrib: so service or start/stop is going to replace service(8)?
[16:15] <DarkFox> I added that after doing the install but should still mount
[16:15] <robertzaccour> xangua: So yes, my issue is a specific question, not a general (Debian based) but specificially if its based on Debian TESTING.
[16:15] <jrib> qiyong: the current service command already works through upstart
[16:15] <xangua> robertzaccour: it is not an ubuntu support issue, if you don't have an ubuntu support issue you can keep quiet or take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:16] <Nmbr1> test1304: do you need to change your mac or are you just pointing out macchanger doesn't work under 13.04?
[16:16] <robertzaccour> xangua: It is a specific question regarding Ubuntu. What version of Debian Ubuntu LTS is based on is very much Ubuntu related.
[16:16] <jrib> !lts | robertzaccour
[16:16] <jrib> robertzaccour: yes, LTS is based on testing and non-LTS are based on unstable
[16:16] <BluesKaj> robertzaccour, or perhaps #debian
[16:16]  * DarkFox now using faster LOCAL mirror :P
[16:16] <robertzaccour> jrib: thank you
[16:17] <jrib> robertzaccour: was thinking the bot would point you to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[16:17]  * DarkFox not used to gui :|
[16:17] <qiyong> jrib: so service(8) works with all the things, start/stop not, my script should use which one?
[16:17] <robertzaccour> xangua: jrib was answered my question specifically to what I asked. He didnt't say (Based on Debian). I knew that already, or else I wouldn't have asked WHICH version it was based on.
[16:17] <jrib> qiyong: what is your script and what does it do?
[16:18] <robertzaccour> jrib: Again, thank you.
[16:18] <qiyong> jrib: so start daemons
[16:18] <auronandace> robertzaccour: even if lts is based on testing that doesn't mean you can mix debian repos (just incase that was your intention)
[16:18] <jrib> qiyong: give more details
[16:18] <robertzaccour> auronandace: nor did I intend to. Just wanting to know thanks.
[16:18] <qiyong> jrib: to start failed services
[16:19] <qiyong> jrib: so start various failed ones
[16:19] <qiyong> jrib: so i need to use sevice or start to start them
[16:20] <jrib> qiyong: I can't really give you advice because I'm not sure exactly what you are doing.  But I guess if you are asking what command should you use to manage services that may or may not have upstart scripts, yes use the "service" command.  I suspect though that there may a better way to do whatever it is you actually want to do
[16:20] <DarkFox> http://darkfox.us.to/images/2013-07-13_14:01:58_1920x1080.png http://darkfox.us.to/images/2013-07-13_14:06:33_1920x1080.png
[16:21] <DarkFox> jrib: That's what I'm used to :P
[16:21] <verysoftoiletppr> hi
[16:21] <verysoftoiletppr> I'm installing things with pip
[16:21] <verysoftoiletppr> but import is not finding them
[16:21] <verysoftoiletppr> ubuntu 12.04.02 LTS
[16:21] <verysoftoiletppr> system python 2.7.3
[16:21] <verysoftoiletppr> help
[16:23] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: I would suggest using virtualenv.  But if you don't want to for some reason, give more details about what exactly you installed.  Include full input and output of install and failed imports in a pastebin
[16:23] <jrib> DarkFox: *cough* transparent terminals *cough*
[16:24] <DarkFox> jrib: PRoblem?
[16:24] <DarkFox> s/R/r/
[16:24] <jrib> DarkFox: just personal aesthetic differences :)
[16:24] <DarkFox> jrib: :P
[16:24] <DarkFox> on the right terminal it's just a mockup curses environment
[16:24] <verysoftoiletppr> jrib I've got virtualenv installed and configured
[16:24] <DarkFox> I typed it all up in vim (ansi colours and all)
[16:25] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: are you using it?
[16:25] <verysoftoiletppr> although I don't have any venv activated
[16:25] <verysoftoiletppr> and I had not venv activaed when I installed the modules
[16:25] <xangua>  how can i disable firefox download notification popup¿ or at least put them where they were by default; they wer on the bottom and now after firefox 21 or 22 was released they are now on the top
[16:25] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: well I'd recommend sticking to virtualenv and not using pip system-wide.  In either case, need more info (pastebin of actual input commands and output) to help more
[16:25] <DarkFox> jrib: What your screen look like?
[16:25] <jrib> DarkFox: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:25] <DarkFox> Okay
[16:26] <verysoftoiletppr> jrib Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): sh in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages
[16:26] <verysoftoiletppr> Requirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): sh in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages
[16:26] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: use a pastebin and include input and output
[16:26] <DarkFox> Just not passwords
[16:27] <DarkFox> http://ascii.io can be useful if there is a lot
[16:27] <verysoftoiletppr> jrib $ sudo pip install sh
[16:27] <verysoftoiletppr> that is the input
[16:27] <verysoftoiletppr> the output is the one I pasted
[16:31] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: so you're choosing to not use virtualenv then and install system-wide using pip?
[16:31] <verysoftoiletppr> jrib yes
[16:31] <verysoftoiletppr> I don't use python enough to justify the overhead of using virtualenv
[16:31] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: so pip claims you already have "sh".  Is that not the case?
[16:32] <verysoftoiletppr> jrib yes
[16:32] <verysoftoiletppr> the problem is python is not looking in the right location
[16:32] <verysoftoiletppr> I don't know why, neither how to fix
[16:32] <n0sq> has anyone else got this message when logging in?  /msg MemoServ READ NEW
[16:33] <auronandace> n0sq: sounds like a question better asking in #freenode
[16:33] <n0sq> apparently it's an invalid irc command
[16:33] <n0sq> auronandace: thanks
[16:34] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: you should be able to "import sh".  Is that right?  What happens when you do: python -c "import sh"?
[16:34] <verysoftoiletppr> jrib ImportError: No module named sh
[16:35] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: python -c 'import sys; print sys.path'
[16:35] <verysoftoiletppr> pip-2.7
[16:35] <verysoftoiletppr> ops
[16:41] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: still there?
[16:41] <verysoftoiletppr>  jrib yes sorry
[16:41] <verysoftoiletppr> http://hastebin.com/vixavumego
[16:41] <verysoftoiletppr> usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages
[16:41] <verysoftoiletppr>  /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages
[16:42] <verysoftoiletppr> should be finding the packages
[16:43] <verysoftoiletppr> err
[16:43] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: ?
[16:43] <verysoftoiletppr> nothing
[16:43] <jrib> heh
[16:43] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: ls -l /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages
[16:44] <verysoftoiletppr> $ ll | grep sh.py
[16:44] <verysoftoiletppr> -rw-r-----  1 root staff  60K Jul 13 16:02 sh.py
[16:44] <verysoftoiletppr> -rw-r-----  1 root staff  43K Jul 13 16:03 sh.pyc
[16:44] <verysoftoiletppr> permissions?
[16:44] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: probably
[16:44] <verysoftoiletppr> http://hastebin.com/yeqoboraco
[16:45] <verysoftoiletppr> could be my umask?
[16:45] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: possibly
[16:45] <verysoftoiletppr> what is the default umask?
[16:45] <bekks> verysoftoiletppr: 0022
[16:45] <verysoftoiletppr> 0027
[16:45] <verysoftoiletppr> Yahhh
[16:45] <verysoftoiletppr> better not to mess up with umask
[16:46] <verysoftoiletppr> jrib what should be the right permissions for everything in this dir?
[16:47] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: staff is a non-standard group on ubuntu afaik.  But just give others read permission on the files that don't have it
[16:49] <verysoftoiletppr> jrib problem fixed, thank you very much
[16:50] <jrib> verysoftoiletppr: no problem
[16:57] <paul> [
[16:58] <paul> hello world
[16:59] <holstein> paul: you have a question? or just here to help? please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for offtopic chat.. thanks!
[17:00] <neck> bot
[17:01] <holstein> !bot | neck
[17:01] <LongCatTH> free coupon for codeschool, first come first serve :) http://go.codeschool.com/yp6ONw
[17:15] <vlt> Hello. How can I disable kernel messages spit to tty
[17:15] <vlt> ?
[17:15] <noideas> Would someone be able to assist in my understanding of why my drives are not mount correctly at boot?
[17:16] <vlt> noideas: I have you
[17:16] <holstein> noideas: sure.. just explain what you expect for "correctly".. and let me get you the fstab linnk
[17:16] <holstein> !fstab | noideas
[17:16] <holstein> vlt: why not use another virtual terminal?
[17:17] <vlt> holstein: such as?
[17:17] <holstein> vlt: any of the other ones.. there are 7 AFAIK
[17:17] <holstein> !tty
[17:18] <holstein> vlt: if you dont like that one that is "full", use another one
[17:18] <vlt> holstein: Ah, now I got you. The messages are getting written to all of them.
[17:18] <holstein> vlt: that is not "normal".. what is getting written?
[17:18] <noideas> I used parted on two 3TB mounted fine and running well, but I have missed something on the fstab. I think i might know what it is but not sure here is my fstab http://pastebin.com/WBsLB2ZW
[17:19] <noideas> the 3tb are ext
[17:19] <noideas> 2
[17:19] <vlt> holstein: kernel messages from failed SATA
[17:19] <shurtagul> does anyone know why chromium crashes after several seconds?
[17:19] <vlt> holstein: I know this is no "normal" situation.
[17:19] <holstein> vlt: i would diagnose the issue..
[17:19] <vlt> I’m trying to ddrescue a failes drive
[17:19] <vlt> *failed
[17:19] <holstein> noideas: if it were me, i would remove them from fstab, and mount them manually, and test
[17:20] <holstein> vlt: then, after you rescue, you should not see the messages.. i would fix the error instead of disabling the verbosity
[17:20] <noideas> i can mount them manually, I would just prefer they mounted every time i restarted the machine
[17:20] <shurtagul> can someone help me with chromium please? :c
[17:21] <vlt> While reading I get literally millions of error lines. Is there any "0" I could echo to /proc/<something> to disable those messages for now?
[17:21] <vlt> holstein: ^
[17:21] <shivani_> HI , I cant seem to log into my ubuntu admin account , accessing it via the guest account now
[17:21] <holstein> noideas: so, if they mount manually without issue, then its the meathod that you are automounting i would look at
[17:21] <shivani_> can anyone please tell me a fix asap
[17:21] <vlt> !root | shivani_
[17:22] <shivani_> ubottu : well I remember the password, it hung and I did a sudo reboot from the rescue terminal
[17:22] <shivani_> vlt : could you help?
[17:23] <shivani_> vlt : I remember the password, it hung and I did a sudo reboot from the rescue terminal after which I havent been able to login
[17:23] <AlexPortable> how do I remove read only from an usb stick?
[17:23] <AlexPortable> putting mbr on it again doesn't works because it's read only
[17:23] <AlexPortable> it doesn't haves a phyiscal read only switch like sd cards
[17:23] <AlexPortable> it's a 32 gb usb stick
[17:23] <AlexPortable> usb 3.0
[17:25] <blazemore> !details | AlexPortable: Are you getting an error of any kind?
[17:26] <shivani_> blazemore : could you help with ^^^
[17:28] <shurtagul> can anyone help me :c
[17:29] <shurtagul> chromium browser closes after several seconds when starting up
[17:30] <wheatthin> shurtagul, have you tried reinstalling chromium?
[17:30] <noideas> holstein : thanks for the links
[17:30] <shurtagul> wheatthin, yes, ive already reinstalled
[17:31] <wheatthin> shurtagul, try running chromium from the terminal and paste the output
[17:32] <shurtagul> chromium-browser: /build/buildd/cairo-1.10.2/src/cairo-surface.c:1287: cairo_surface_set_device_offset: Assertion `status == CAIRO_STATUS_SUCCESS' failed.
[17:32] <shurtagul> Aborted (core dumped)
[17:33] <AlexPortable> blazemore: yes, it says that it's read only
[17:35] <FreeRangeRadical> When I startup, I choose Ubuntu in GRUB, then rather than load Ubuntu immediately, it takes 15-20 minutes before the login screen appears.
[17:35] <wheatthin> shurtagul, it's a bug in cairo, can you file a bug report?
[17:36] <wheatthin> !bug
[17:36] <shurtagul> wheatthin, it just closes, it doesnt prompt for a bug report
[17:37] <wheatthin> no, read what ubottu said
[17:38] <AlexPortable> blazemore: any clue?
[17:39] <pseudonymous> I was wondering if someone can help me. I'm about to cancel my server (running Ubuntu) because of a problem I've yet to diagnose. But I'd really *like* for this to be a success story for me rather than coming away with a disgusted feeling
[17:39] <shurtagul> I reopened chromium in the menu and it seems like its not going to crash. This is the first time, what is cairo btw
[17:39] <wheatthin> !cairo
[17:39] <FreeRangeRadical> Sorry if someone responded to me, I keep getting booted.
[17:39] <wheatthin> hmm not listed..  one moment
[17:40] <AlexPortable> how do I remove read only from an usb stick?
[17:40] <FreeRangeRadical> When I start my machine, BIOS loads, GRUB loads, then I go from the purple screen to a blank black screen with blinking cursor, login won't appear for 20 minutes or so. What do I do?
[17:41] <wheatthin> shurtagul, it's a 2d vector graphics library
[17:41] <blazemore> !details | AlexPortable: Are you getting an error of any kind?
[17:42] <blazemore> Oh sorry AlexPortable I missed your message above
[17:42] <AlexPortable> no I don't get any error
[17:42] <shurtagul> wheatthin, ok. do you know if chromium will keep crashing, its working right now.
[17:42] <AlexPortable> when I want to delete from it, delete button is gone
[17:42] <blazemore> AlexPortable: Where does "it" say it's read-only, and what is giving that error message?
[17:42] <Whisper> Greetings all! If anyone has a moment I'd like to ask a few VERY Simple questions.
[17:42] <wheatthin> shurtagul, I have no clue..
[17:43] <AlexPortable> blazemore: when I try to put new mbr on it in terminal
[17:43] <wheatthin> shurtagul, which desktop environment are you using?
[17:43] <shurtagul> wheatthin, it crashed :c anyway thanks for your help
[17:43] <shurtagul> wheatthin, im using xfce]
[17:44] <AlexPortable> and in nautilus when I want to delete or rename or put something on the usb disk it's not working either
[17:45] <AlexPortable> no error in nautilus
[17:45] <AlexPortable> blazemore:
[17:47] <Whisper> I've downloaded a PPA how do I know if its working? How do I create an ISO on a USB and what does
[17:47] <Whisper> edit partition bootable checkbox mean?
[17:47] <FreeRangeRadical> When I start my machine, BIOS loads, GRUB loads, then I go from the purple screen to a blank black screen with blinking cursor, login won't appear for 20 minutes or so. What do I do?
[17:48] <blue_pearl> hi, i have a hdd connected via usb to my computer but Ubuntu 13.04 refuses to mount it , it did not worked graphically so i did sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /home/username/foldername/ but it says mount:/dev/sdb4: can't read superblock the disk is ok i can confirm because if i plug it in Ubuntu 10.0 it opens the drive automatically in gui... it also works fine in Debian 7.0 Can anyone let me know what i am doing wrong?
[17:50] <Whisper> If I install a PPA how do I know its working?  How do I make an .iso on a USB drive? Anyone?
[17:50] <pseudonymous> where do the upstart messages go ?
[17:51] <AlexPortable> anyone?
[17:51] <Whisper> I tried creating the .iso on USB using Unetbootin but it says "Finished" although 0 space has been taken up on my USB drive from the Image.
[17:51] <Whisper> The image is 900mb
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> Whisper, What PPA? Many ISO loaders.
[17:51] <mrdeb> hello, can u reinstall grub2 from usb live drive if overwrote
[17:51] <mrdeb> pls help
[17:52] <Whisper> wilee how do I whisper?
[17:52] <Whisper> Ironic right?
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> mrdeb, yes
[17:52] <blue_pearl> mrdeb, yes u can reinstall grub2 from live cd or usb
[17:52] <mrdeb> ok
[17:52] <mrdeb> how
[17:52] <mrdeb> is there option
[17:53] <pseudonymous> Can anyone tell me there upstart logs its messages to ? I'm trying to debug the damnable thing and I'm flying blind :(
[17:53] <blue_pearl> mrdeb, u need to punch in different commands let me give u a link
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> mrdeb, There is a app called bootrepair many use.
[17:53] <SonikkuAmerica> Whisper: (There is no such command on Freenode.)
[17:53] <mrdeb> supergrubdisk?
[17:53] <mrdeb> would that work
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> mrdeb, you need to give some details really at least for me to feel your are doing something that will work in your setuo confirm the OS's to begin with.
[17:54] <Whisper> how do I whisper? lol
[17:54] <blue_pearl> mrdeb, try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[17:54] <FreeRangeRadical> When I start my machine, BIOS loads, GRUB loads, then I go from the purple screen to a blank black screen with blinking cursor, login won't appear for 20 minutes or so. What do I do? Raring 13.04
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> welcome to ignore Whisper
[17:55] <Whisper> The PPA I needed to ask about was one I DL'd from a 3rd party on launchpad.com it was a PPA that turns on the Boost Tech on my onboard Intel HD 3000 graphics card.
[17:55] <blue_pearl> do anyone has any help for my problem with external hdd
[17:56] <blue_pearl> hi, i have a hdd connected via usb to my computer but Ubuntu 13.04 refuses to mount it , it did not worked graphically so i did sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /home/username/foldername/ but it says mount:/dev/sdb4: can't read superblock the disk is ok i can confirm because if i plug it in Ubuntu 10.0 it opens the drive automatically in gui... it also works fine in Debian 7.0 Can anyone let me know what i am doing wrong?
[17:56] <Whisper> Also when I run UNetbootin as root it sees the first partition on my USB but I don't believe its actually burning the image unless I have a 900mb per sec USB write speed which is impossible.
[17:58] <Casey> Can someone check my fstab to see what is wrong with my raid1 being mounted? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5871317/
[17:58] <Casey> Last two lines
[18:00] <Whisper> If no one can help me with UNetbootin being weird, then perhaps I could get some recommendations for GUI based ISO burners on Ubuntu?
[18:00] <Whisper> The command line game is out of my reach at the moment. I have to go buy a book on that.
[18:01] <nathansuchy> @Whisper If you have an rooted android tablet use DriveDroid
[18:01] <nathansuchy> reinstall ubuntu
[18:01] <nathansuchy> then uuse unetbootin
[18:01] <Whisper> Its not android tablet.
[18:01] <Whisper> @nathansuchy not reinstalling Ubuntu, I just had everything set the way I liked it, that took LONG enough.
[18:02] <pseudonymous> surely *someone* knows how to coax some output out of upstart ?? I can't be the only person who finds it interesting to know what happens when services start/stop ???
[18:02] <Whisper> @nathansuchy if there are other ISO image burning GUI programs out there besides Unetbootin I'd give those a try.
[18:03] <Whisper> The problem arises when the NORMAL EASY way to burn .iso in Ubuntu stops working. I can easily burn an ISO to a DVD in Ubuntu, the issue no option for USB in the dropdown.
[18:03] <Casey> whisper:Furius ISO Mount
[18:03] <Whisper> @Casey Thank you. brb.
[18:04] <trism> pseudonymous: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#debugging unless you mean output from individual jobs, which is logged to /var/log/upstart/jobname.log if enabled
[18:05] <intrader> Hi, all; My ubuntu 12.04 overheats my laptop - discovered that plugin-container uses more than 60% CPU. How do I discover its PID and run a chron to kill it?
[18:05] <Whisper> @Casey Is the Furious ISO Mount program something that should show up in Synaptic Package Manager?
[18:06] <Midnightmyth> anyone with experience with a cubieboard?
[18:06] <blue_pearl> anyone knows any workaround for bug #1173925
[18:06] <FreeRangeRadical> When I start my machine, BIOS loads, GRUB loads, then I go from the purple screen to a blank black screen with blinking cursor, login won't appear for 20 minutes or so. What do I do?
[18:06] <Casey> whisper: which version you running?
[18:06] <trism> pseudonymous: although there is also upstart-monitor
[18:06] <Whisper> @Casey This is Ubuntu 13.04 -raring I believe.
[18:07] <Whisper> Casey : x64
[18:08] <Whisper> Casey: My SPM is 0.08~exp2raring1
[18:08] <Casey> whisper: not 100% sure if its 13.04 compatible, here is the manufacture link:  https://launchpad.net/furiusisomount
[18:09] <pseudonymous> trism: thanks, I'll have a look
[18:09] <Whisper> casey: Thanks I'll go give it a shot, I'm about to give up on this, I have a 2,500 page paper due soon and I need to get crackin.
[18:09] <Casey> whisper: I understand.
[18:10] <gopi> #ceglug
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> FreeRangeRadical, When you see grub hit e and remove the splash notation to get a text boot see whats going on.
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> might be no splash
[18:11] <FreeRangeRadical> do I edit that in gedit?
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> FreeRangeRadical, Are you seeing the grub menu at boot if not start tapping the shift at powering on.
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> FreeRangeRadical, NO boot but powering on my mistake.
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> not*
[18:12] <FreeRangeRadical> i had to install grub from disc
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> FreeRangeRadical, Sure, however are you seeing the grub menu when you power on?
[18:13] <FreeRangeRadical> so, restart, tap shift at power on to get...what?
[18:13] <FreeRangeRadical> at power on, i see the bios, then grub
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> FreeRangeRadical, The grub menu, the hit e for edit, then using the arrow keys go to the no splash and remove it.
[18:14] <FreeRangeRadical> and then?
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> FreeRangeRadical, WE WANT THE GRUB MENU CAN YOU GET THERE?
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> lol sorry for yelling
[18:14] <FreeRangeRadical> yes, if i leave here, power down, restart, then i can get to the grub menu
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> FreeRangeRadical, At the grub menu hit e this is an edit, then using the arrow keys go to the no splash and remove it, this will give you a text boot to see where the start is getting stuck.
[18:16] <FreeRangeRadical> and then come back here and report what i see?
[18:16] <mamed> hello guys . ubuntu 12.04 32 bit with asus m51dr laptop hd sound problem with my speakers
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> FreeRangeRadical, Yep
[18:16] <FreeRangeRadical> ok
[18:16] <FreeRangeRadical> thx
[18:17] <gosheca> hi
[18:17] <mamed> hello guys . ubuntu 12.04 32 bit with asus m51dr laptop hd sound problem with my speakers . how can i set the spearker to digital output. when i turn up the volume the sound becomes worse . all i want to hear good quality from my speakers
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> mamed, Are the speaker of a good quality?
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> plural speakers
[18:19] <mamed> wilee-nilee, i typed fast so it is possible for me to make some grammatical mistakes
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> my grammatical mistake
[18:20] <mamed> dont even .
[18:20] <mamed> can you help me?
[18:20] <mamed> i was able to hear hd sounds from my speakers in ubuntu 11.04
[18:20] <Whisper> Casey: I have FuriousISO installed, however I don't see a way to direct it towards a USB
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> mamed, I don't know, I asked a question and you have not answered it. I'm right now trying to determine if what you want is a dream or a reality. ;)
[18:21] <mamed> both:D
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> lol
[18:21] <Whisper> Casey: It allows me to mount the image only, I don't think its mounting it where I need it and I don't think mounting it in Ubuntu is going to help me on REboot lol
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> mamed, this area is not my strong point so, I suspect others will be more helpful.
[18:22] <mirak> hello
[18:22] <mamed> wilee-nilee, ok.
[18:22] <mirak> anyone have experience with USB ACM device
[18:22] <mirak> ?
[18:23] <mamed> guys i am able to hears hd quality sound from my earphones but my speakers they are analog . how can i set them as digital output.
[18:23] <Casey> Whisper: Sorry, I did not see where you were having issues burning to USB, I only saw where you were having issues with burning an ISO "If no one can help me with UNetbootin being weird, then perhaps I could get some recommendations for GUI based ISO burners on Ubuntu?" and "@nathansuchy if there are other ISO image burning GUI programs out there besides Unetbootin I'd give those a try."
[18:23] <Casey> I was pulling info for that burner when you stated USB, sorry.
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> !anyone > mirak
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> !details > mirak
[18:24] <Casey> Can someone check my fstab to see what is wrong with my raid1 being mounted? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5871317/
[18:24] <Casey> Last two lines
[18:24] <mirak> wilee-nilee, that doesn't help
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | mirak
[18:25] <Whisper> Casey: No worries. UNetbootin must be run as root. Close it, and re-run using either:
[18:25] <Whisper> sudo /usr/bin/unetbootin
[18:25] <Whisper> or:
[18:25] <Whisper> su - -c '/usr/bin/unetbootin'
[18:25] <mirak> I have a device that id detected as USB ACM device.
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> mirak, If you want help you have to follow the channel norms of which details and not asking anyone or part of.
[18:25] <sdfg> amazin ubuntu can lock you up when the disk is full
[18:25] <mirak> I don't know that, if you know that maybe you can explain a bit
[18:25] <Whisper> Casey: I type that in, and it runs, then when I select /dev/sdb1  it finishes far to quickly.
[18:26] <Casey> Whisper: I have no experience with unebtoonin so I wouldn't know where to direct you on that :-/
[18:26] <sdfg> how 's that even possible for an OS to do that
[18:26] <mirak> wilee-nilee, help me acces the memory of my JammanSolo
[18:26] <mirak> that's the question
[18:26] <mirak> I don't believe that's a better question
[18:26] <Whisper> Casey: Heres a better question then, do I even need to burn the .iso image to the USB? or can I just copy n paste it? lol
[18:26] <raven_> can anyone help me transfer files from my ubuntu lapttop to my windows 8 pc?
[18:26] <Casey> Whisper: I am working on 6 other windows machines right now so if I get a chance to catch a break, I'll do some reasearch for ya.
[18:27] <Whisper> raven_: Step 1:: Copy everything OFF a USB drive.
[18:27] <Casey> Whisper: I'm no expert in Linux/Ubuntu, however in the windows world, you have to have two programs (or one that can do both) to do what you want.
[18:27] <Whisper> raven_: Step 2:: Format the USB drive as NTFS
[18:28] <Whisper> raven_:: Step3:: Copy the files from windows onto the newly formated NTFS USB.
[18:28] <Casey> whisper: one has to format the drive so that it will be reconnized as a bootable USB and the other is to actually burn the ISO
[18:28] <sdfg> my hd is full and ubuntu now lock it up i have to use the recovery mode to access to the command prompt  .
[18:28] <Whisper> raven_:: Step4:: Boot up Ubuntu, it will recognize that file system NTFS and all the files it can. Then copy them into your Ubuntu file system/OS.
[18:28] <Casey> whisper: also check your bios settings/manual to see if you can boot off of USB drives.
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> mirak, A guitar effect, nice I'm a pro musician myself, however that may be a tough one, I see no reference on the web with ubuntu and it, besides here you might also try ##linux you have to be registered for that channel is all.
[18:29] <sdfg> how can i delete files when i cant access to desktop folder and etc
[18:29] <nick__> hi, im having a problem when loading steam under wheezy, where is the best place to ask the question? its not from valve but from Ghost squad 57
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> sdfg, Chroot from a live cd
[18:29] <mirak> wilee-nilee, yep that's why I asked directly about technicality, because i googled a bit, and needed some direction
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> sdfg, Or maybe just access depends on what you want to remove.
[18:29] <is_null> hi all, how to make unity maximize windows by default ?
[18:29] <nick__> anyone had issues trying to run team fortress2 from debain wheezy 64bt?
[18:30] <Whisper> Raven_:: Actually I misread your question. REVERSE the steps.
[18:30] <Whisper> Raven_:: Just make sure your USB file format is NTFS and Windows 8 / Ubuntu should be able to transfer via a USB.
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> mirak, Cool, it just helps to have the device exactly, its not easy for either of us always.
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> nick__, THis debian?
[18:31] <sdfg> wilee , problem is in /home/user/ folder there are only 2 files one is access-your-private-data.desktop and readme.txt
[18:31] <sdfg> how can i get into the download folder ?
[18:31] <nick__> wilee-nilee: Debian Wheezy
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> nick__, #debian
[18:32] <sdfg> i believe the folder is encrypted to decrypt it required extra space as now my hd is full
[18:32] <mirak> wilee-nilee, you see me ?
[18:32] <mirak> sorry
[18:32] <nick__> wilee-nilee: isnt debain / ubuntu the same thing ? essentially?
[18:32] <mirak> wrong channel
[18:32] <nick__> arg debian**
[18:32] <gopinutakki> Hie, One of the wireless networks in greyed out. Its a public wifi network at a park in my town.
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> nick__, To some extent yes, but ubuntu is only supported here, channel rules is all, ;)
[18:33] <nick__> no probs thanks for your time
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> sdfg, encrypted I have no idea
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> mirak, Yes I se your posts, I would not know how to get that effect to work in general, Does it have a usb port?
[18:35] <mirak> yes
[18:35] <mirak> it's just a loop pedal
[18:35] <mirak> i want to acces the stored loops
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> mirak, If you run lsusb in ubuntu does it show in the list?
[18:35] <mirak> wilee-nilee, yes
[18:35] <mirak> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 1210:0020 DigiTech
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> mirak, Cool, that is good, have you looked if it is in the left side menu in home?
[18:36] <Nmbr1> sdfg: you have your home directory encrypted - give me second i will find the directions again
[18:36] <mirak> "The CDC ACM + MS driver is a USB composite gadget driver which implements the serial communication and mass storage functions. This allows the device to be registered on a host computer as a seral port (e.g. /dev/ttyACM0 or COM1:) and as a USB thumb drive (e.g. /dev/sdf or E:). The composite driver allows for simultaneous use of the serial and mass storage functions. "
[18:36] <mirak> ok, that's less worse than I expected
[18:37] <mirak> though I don't see the UMS device yet
[18:37] <Nmbr1> sdfg: take a look at http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/
[18:37] <mirak> maybe there is something to enable on the pedal, i will check the manual
[18:38] <Nmbr1> sdfg: you will need a bootdisk and know your encryption passphrase (not your user password, the passphrase randomly generated when you first logged into Ubuntu)
[18:38] <lauratika> every time i change accounts or restart pc i get a black line on the top corner of the display, only way to changing it back to normal is opening display-->then changing resolution and keep configuration. any idea what is the issue?
[18:38] <zorael> Is 'sans' or 'sans-serif' the real/preferred alias?
[18:38] <raven> hi
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> mirak, I'm looking at a youtube on it and even in windows you need a script to access it, you may have seen this already not sure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOW5VLu8oYQ
[18:39] <Nmbr1> sdfg: if you don't have that passphrase you are hosed and to my knowledge there is not another method of accessing your home directory
[18:39] <raven> any tool to "convert" atom, rss, and other feeds to e-mail?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> mirak, Just info here to get a orientation of general use.
[18:39] <mirak> wilee-nilee, no not yet. There is a digitech software for windows to acces it.
[18:40] <mamed> no sound from my speakers now
[18:40] <Nmbr1> sdfg: the nerdier fewer picture version of instructions are at http://hype-free.blogspot.com/2011/04/recovering-encrypted-home-directory.html
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> mirak, I think it is accessible, it is just finding the right voodoo to doooooo. ;)
[18:40] <mirak> wilee-nilee, yes, it's really less difficult than I started to believe at some point
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> mirak, THere is a open source musician channel let me see if I can find it.
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> mirak, #opensourcemusicians
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> good channel in general
[18:44] <hanthana> i have ubuntu 12.04.1LTS server. I need to upgrade git on this server from 1.7.9.5 to 1.7.10
[18:44] <fwaokda> i was running a process in terminal and I tried CTRL+C'ing out of it but it didn't respond to that... what else can i do to kill it?
[18:45] <fossterer> fwaokda: Try pressing Close button
[18:45] <hanthana> i tried with both apt-get update and apt-get upgrade but no luck
[18:45] <fwaokda> fossterer, i've done that before and then had to restart whole machine because it hadn't really stopped
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> fwaokda, try killall "the thang" from another terminal
[18:46] <DoverMo> fwaokda, "ps -x" "sudo kill -9 [number]
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> ^^^^^^^^^^^ that to
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> htop can kill as well
[18:47] <Nmbr1> sdfg: any luck?
[18:47] <fwaokda> DoverMo, thanks!
[18:49] <Midnightmyth> anyone with experience with a cubieboard?
[18:52] <lauratika> sorry got disconected
[18:53] <SP33D> i have always in auth log "Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /root" but i expected nothing like that and did all standart  checks the root dir is owned by root:root and has mode 700 and the .ssh is 700 and .ssh/key* is 600 like its writen in some blogs
[18:53] <SP33D> what else can i do
[18:55] <green_> ubuntu 12.04 1920x1080 works fine on install but after updates 1920x1080 screen rolls any way to fix this?
[18:56] <zipy> SP33D, u cannot access root without root previleges
[18:56] <zipy> either u enter with sudo
[18:56] <zipy> or u change to root
[18:56] <zipy> user
[18:56] <SP33D> ya and sshd runs under user root
[18:56] <SP33D> i am loging in with root user
[18:56] <SP33D> that is all right
[18:56] <SP33D> i login via ssh as user root ^^
[18:56] <zipy> do u have an user with sudo?
[18:56] <Nmbr1> SP33D: you should not ssh into your machine as the root user
[18:56] <zipy> except root
[18:57] <zipy> ye
[18:57] <SP33D> nope don't got sudo running at present
[18:57] <Nmbr1> i would login using a regular user and then su or sudo
[18:57] <SP33D> thats a later task
[18:57] <SP33D> for some rainy days
[18:57] <zipy> how did u install ubuntu without creating a user?
[18:57] <Nmbr1> my suggestion is make it a now task and setup ssl certificate authentication while you are there
[18:58] <cherubino> Holaaaa a Todossss!!!!!
[18:58] <cherubino> hi
[18:58] <cherubino> help
[18:58] <mirak> wilee-nilee, what script where you talking about ?
[18:58] <DoverMo> green_, maybe this might help? i dunno, http://askubuntu.com/questions/206967/why-isnt-grub2-using-custom-resolution
[18:58] <cherubino>  librerie libssl su ubuntu 13.04
[18:59] <chxane> hello, is there a way to ignore debug messages from a process you have running in the background (by passing & in bash on ubuntu)? Or is this more for another chatroom's question?
[18:59] <strange> chxane: >> /dev/null
[19:00] <chxane> strange, ty
[19:00] <strange> np
[19:00] <SP33D> any ideas how i can solve that?
[19:00] <Nmbr1> chxane: you can also do script.sh 2>/dev/null
[19:01] <Nmbr1> with script.sh being your command
[19:01] <Nmbr1> chxane: they both tell the interpreter that on error send the output to the null device
[19:02] <chxane> the script is a python script actually
[19:02] <strange> doesnt matter
[19:02] <chxane> and >> /dev/null isn't working
[19:02] <green_> ubuntu 12.04 1920x1080 works fine on install but after updates 1920x1080 screen rolls any way to fix this?
[19:02] <strange> 2>/dev/null
[19:02] <strange> will work
[19:02] <Nmbr1> chxane: try the one i sent 2>/dev/null
[19:03] <chxane> yeah that works thank you
[19:03] <Nmbr1> np
[19:04] <zipy> green_, was there a kernel update within?
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> chxane, If ubuntu this is the place details of the process...etc will probably help, I'm just passing this on is all.
[19:05] <green_> zipy yes
[19:05] <green_> i know thats whats breaking it
[19:06] <zipy> green, u probably need to reeinstall ur gpu drivers if u had some
[19:06] <zipy> happens sometimes on kernel update
[19:06] <green_> i reinstalled the i915 last night
[19:07] <bekks> zipy: Only happens when not using drivers from the official repos.
[19:08] <green_> i have my Xorg 0.log file in pastebin
[19:09] <sdfg> thanks Nmbr1
[19:09] <sdfg> i'm haing problme deleting files
[19:09] <sdfg> my hd is full
[19:09] <green_> <<<< frustrated ripping out my final few hairs
[19:10] <bekks> sdfg: Which error do you get exactly?
[19:10] <sdfg> can't access to encrypted folder to do the delete as no room to decrypt it
[19:10] <zipy> green_, r u using 12.04 lts?
[19:10] <bekks> sdfg: The content of the encrypted folder isnt the problem.
[19:11] <FreeRangeRadical> wilee-nilee  ok, i removed quiet splash from grub and i'm back. what now?
[19:11] <sdfg> bekks , how to i access to the encrypted home folder to do the delete ?
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> FreeRangeRadical, Did you see a text boot, I gave you this task for the channel to have details , not necessarily for my help.
[19:12] <bekks> sdfg: You dont need that - you need to free up space on the unencrypted part of your system.
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> FreeRangeRadical, we all have different skills is all.
[19:13] <FreeRangeRadical> wilee-nilee  i have no idea what that meant
[19:13] <FreeRangeRadical> what are you talking about?
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> FreeRangeRadical, what did you see when you removed the splash and booted?
[19:13] <sdfg> bekks which folder do you think i can go to do delete ?
[19:14] <bekks> sdfg: you cant delete a random folder. You have to look up which contents use much space.
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> FreeRangeRadical, Do you have any experience with linux?
[19:14] <FreeRangeRadical> wilee-nilee  it did the same thing it's been doing. 20 minutes from bios to login screen
[19:14] <sdfg> all user data is in home folder
[19:14] <FreeRangeRadical> WHAT?
[19:14] <FreeRangeRadical> are you intentionally being rude?
[19:15] <FreeRangeRadical> I've been using ubuntu since 10.04
[19:15] <DoverMo> FreeRangeRadical, this channel is not to discuss ethics
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> FreeRangeRadical, No just trying to get to the gist, we are not communicating, with basic stuff.;)
[19:15] <sdfg> those that can be deleted is in home folder i dont think there anything can be deleted outside home folder
[19:15] <FreeRangeRadical> dovermo, it's not i who is having the ethics problem, but thanks anyway
[19:15] <DoverMo> FreeRangeRadical, "<FreeRangeRadical> are you intentionally being rude?" that's not needed
[19:15] <FreeRangeRadical> wilee-nilee  i have a masters in english, i can communicate if you're clear in your intent
[19:16] <green_> zipy yes 12.04
[19:16] <FreeRangeRadical> then your comment wasn't needed either, dovermo
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | FreeRangeRadical
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> don't be a projecting fool
[19:16] <Casey> Can someone check my fstab to see what is wrong with my raid1 being mounted? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5871317/
[19:16] <DoverMo> FreeRangeRadical, actually it was
[19:16] <Casey> Last two lines
[19:17] <sdfg> ubuntu has a deadly bug
[19:17] <FreeRangeRadical> OK, so now that you've made your point, can i get some help?
[19:17] <sdfg> encrypted home folder plus a full disk will locked up your system
[19:17] <clue_h> sdfg how so
[19:17] <Jordan_U> FreeRangeRadical: What did you see at boot after removing "quiet splash"?
[19:18] <otak> sudo apt-get autoclean will usually clear some space
[19:18] <sdfg> you can't access to the system as the login system will fail
[19:18] <gordonjcp> sdfg: Don't Do That, Then
[19:18] <gordonjcp> sdfg: encrypted home directory is a stupid idea
[19:18] <clue_h> external drive for files
[19:18] <intrader> Hi, all; My ubuntu 12.04 overheats my laptop - discovered that plugin-container uses more than 60% CPU. How do I discover its PID and run a chron to kill it?
[19:19] <FreeRangeRadical> jordan u  as i said, when i removed quiet splash, and hit f10, it did the same as before. it took 20 minutes from grub to login screen after 5 minutes or so of blank black screen
[19:19] <clue_h> intrader, system monitor or from the terminal, i think ps ax, then kill -9 PID
[19:19] <gordonjcp> intrader: it's run by firefox
[19:19] <gordonjcp> intrader: killing firefox *should* kill it
[19:20] <Jordan_U> FreeRangeRadical: OK. So there you've said that you see 5 minutes of blank screen, what do you see for the other 15 minutes?
[19:20] <FreeRangeRadical> the purple ubuntu screen
[19:20] <cherubino> Holaaaa a Todossss!!!!!
[19:20] <cherubino> Would howdy need of a help was I starting a shell from ubuntu 13.04 and from a mistake do these bookshops lack libssl how I can remedy?
[19:20] <FreeRangeRadical> in about 15 minutes after the grub, the cursor finally appears. 5 minutes of the cursor on the purple ubuntu screen, then the login screen appears.
[19:21] <Jordan_U> intrader: Are you saying that your laptop overheats and the hardware forces a shutdown, or does it just get too hot for your comfort?
[19:21] <intrader> gordonjcp, thanks; it is spawned by firefox on account of adobe flash. I don't want to have those flash session active - they are usually adverts
[19:22] <cherubino>  Would howdy need of a help was I starting a shell from ubuntu 13.04 and from a mistake do these bookshops lack libssl how I can remedy?
[19:22] <Jordan_U> FreeRangeRadical: OK. So you see the grub menu, then a black screen for 15 minutes, then 5 minutes of the cursor on a purple ubuntu screen, then the login prompt. Correct?
[19:22] <intrader> Jordan_U, it does shutdown when temparature gets over 94C
[19:22] <gordonjcp> intrader: try installing adblock?
[19:22] <FreeRangeRadical> jordan u  that's correct. the login screen with the login prompt.
[19:23] <moes> I just did an install from a live cd.12.04-32bit.. kernel 32.0.0-23.. gnome 3.4.1..What is the command for upgrading my system
[19:23] <bekks> sdfg: If you have too less space for decrypting your home folder, you are lacking space outside the encrypted home folder obviously.
[19:23] <Jordan_U> intrader: No amount of CPU usage should cause a laptop to overheat to the extent that it shuts itself off. If that's happeneing then you most likely have a hardware problem. Possibly the fans are not functioning or are being blocked by collected dust.
[19:23] <bekks> sdfg: So did you check where (outside) your space is actually wasted?
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> moes, To what, and have you run a update upgrade within the install?
[19:23] <intrader> gordonjcp, what is adblock?
[19:24] <moes> I am tryin to get the latest 12.04 and kernel etc
[19:25] <intrader> Jordan_U, it has been doing this since I upgraded to 12.04. Had no problem on 10.4. It seems CPU or GPU problem
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> moes, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:25] <otak> hey won't dist-upgrade move away from 12.04 ?
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> otak, No.
[19:26] <intrader> Jordan_U, the fans seem to be active as shown by psensor, but I don't hear a fan
[19:26] <reactor16> hi all
[19:26] <moes> wilee-nilee, Thanks will do!!!
[19:26] <gordonjcp> intrader: it's a browser plugin, that blocks adverts
[19:26] <checoimg> Who here has Hibernation working out of the box  ? I would like to know what computer it works on.
[19:26] <checoimg> Thank you
[19:26] <reactor16> what is best gui lite for ubuntu (i'm running vps)?
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> otak, dist-upgrade is for held stuff like kernels...etc
[19:27] <Jordan_U> otak: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is only different from "sudo apt-get upgrade" in that it will install or remove new packages if needed because of dependency problems (this should not happen normally, but might if you install ppas or other third party repositories, or use a development version of Ubuntu). To upgrade from one release of Ubuntu to another see the information that ubottu is about to give you.
[19:27] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | otak
[19:27] <intrader> gordonjcp, I will install it. too many subwindows running flash or other videos
[19:28] <Jordan_U> !hcl | checoimg
[19:28] <otak> wilee-nilee: thanks folks
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> +1 on Jordan_U's description.
[19:28] <Jordan_U> intrader: I don't doubt that there is a problem with how much CPU is being used, but I consider the fact that any amount of CPU/GPU usage can overheat your machine a bigger problem.
[19:28] <checoimg> Jordan_U : Thanks
[19:28] <Jordan_U> checoimg: You're welcome.
[19:29] <intrader> Jordan_U, I don't quite get is as the same load of firefox tabs do not overheat the laptop when runinng under XP. I suspect the display driver
[19:30] <lonewulf85> any recommends on connecting Ubuntu 12.04 to Android 4.2.x?
[19:30] <Jordan_U> FreeRangeRadical: Please install bootchart and post a link to the image it creates: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootCharting
[19:31] <gordonjcp> intrader: you want it
[19:31] <gordonjcp> intrader: you really do
[19:31] <FreeRangeRadical> jordan u   OK
[19:31] <checoimg> Jordan_U : I'm using my own kernel but I will file the bug with a Ubuntu kernel
[19:31] <intrader> gordonjcp, I will install it - adblock your say?
[19:31] <raven> any tool to "convert" atom, rss, and other feeds to e-mail?
[19:31] <knightAndrobide> Hey
[19:31] <gordonjcp> intrader: yup
[19:32] <gordonjcp> intrader: adblock plus, these days
[19:32] <knightAndrobide> How to change tty reso to 1080p?
[19:32] <sdfg> bekks , does ubuntu decrypt home folder to other folder during normal operation ?
[19:32] <intrader> gordonjcp, thanks
[19:32] <otak> is noscript still recommended?
[19:32] <Jordan_U> FreeRangeRadical: You're welcome. Please use my full nick (Jordan_U) in your messages or I might miss them. You can save some time by typing just "jor" and pressing tab until it completes to "Jordan_U".
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> otak, I use it.
[19:33] <otak> me too but I also use apt-get upgrade :-)
[19:33] <Jordan_U> sdfg: What do you mean by "decrypt home folder to another folder"?
[19:34] <paws> so if I forward the DNS records to my webhosting they should also be allowed to use my MX records right?
[19:34] <Wh1plash> Has anyone setup a VPN on their ubuntu box to connect their phones, tablets, laptops to etc while away from home/coffee shops etc? Anything you guys recommend?
[19:35] <sdfg> Jordan , what i mean is that if i want to decrypt home folder i need to extra space for doing that but does this ubuntu decrypt home folder to some area during normal operation
[19:36] <Rallias> In lxterminal, how do I pass an F10 to the program?
[19:36] <intrader> gordonjcp, I have installed it - any setting?
[19:36] <bekks> sdfg: Did you check whats wasting space outside your home folder?
[19:37] <Rallias> Never mind, clicking works in htop
[19:38] <Jordan_U> sdfg: Ecryptfs doesn't copy all your data at any point, in fact there is no copying involved at all. Files are decrypted on the fly and only the encrypted contents are ever stored on disk.
[19:38] <matty> I need major help, using ubuntu 13.04 I tried to install RSTudio and ended up deleting cinnemon and grub
[19:39] <matty> I do not know how to get to terminal and getting on firefox was very difficult
[19:40] <matty> cinnamon* the bottom taskbar is also gone
[19:40] <Jordan_U> matty: You can probably just choose the "Ubuntu" or "GNOME" sessions at the login screen.
[19:41] <matty> jordan_U: I did that all that I got was a grey task bar
[19:41] <Jordan_U> matty: How did you "delete" cinimon and grub?
[19:42] <matty> jordan_U: Well I think grub still exisits because when I restarted my computer I was given the option to dual boot. I was on the terminal and installing RStudio and it was removing cinnamon
[19:42] <Marikawn> hello, I need help with the apt-get upgrade function
[19:42] <sdfg> so who got solution for this problem
[19:42] <Jordan_U> !details | Marikawn
[19:42] <bekks> sdfg: Answer my question please. I asked you two times now at least.
[19:42] <Marikawn> It seems that I didn't uninstall snort correctly and now my system is hanging up on this
[19:43] <Marikawn> Sure.. one sec
[19:43] <sdfg> bekks , i can't find anyting
[19:43] <bekks> sdfg: How did you search?
[19:43] <Marikawn> This is the output:
[19:43] <Marikawn> root@bt:/usr/bin# apt-get upgrade
[19:43] <Marikawn> Reading package lists... Done
[19:43] <Marikawn> Building dependency tree
[19:43] <Marikawn> Reading state information... Done
[19:43] <Marikawn> The following packages have been kept back:
[19:43] <FloodBot1> Marikawn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Marikawn
[19:44] <sdfg> bekks , disk analyser
[19:44] <Marikawn> Here's the link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872018/
[19:45] <Jordan_U> Marikawn: Please pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a".
[19:45] <bekks> sdfg: I'd use "du" and at first glance, you can delete the apt package cache.
[19:45] <matty> jordan_U:  any idea of how to get terminal without the keyboard shortcut?
[19:46] <Jordan_U> matty: ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a terminal (ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to X), then run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" to be sure that you have all of the packages included in a default install of Ubuntu.
[19:47] <Marikawn> cant' run lsb release -a
[19:47] <Jordan_U> Marikawn: Why not?
[19:47] <Marikawn> It's not recognized
[19:47] <Marikawn> I tried apt-get install lsb but it still didn't install the lsb command.. don't know
[19:47] <Jordan_U> Marikawn: Note that it's "lsb_release -a" (with an underscore) *not* "lsb release -a".
[19:48] <Marikawn> ohh, that may be why
[19:48] <Marikawn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872029/
[19:48] <Mkeer> Hi, I only have 2gb of ram and when I start a certain program (a python script which takes a bunch of memory), all my chrome tabs crash...  without chrome running, the python script leaves me with several hundred MB of RAM
[19:49] <Mkeer> I feel like Ubuntu doesn't manage the memory allocation very well
[19:49] <bekks> Mkeer: It does the same memory management as every other linux - you just have too less RAM for doing what you want.
[19:49] <Marikawn> I've tried apt-get autoclean & apt-get clean && apt-get purge
[19:50] <Mkeer> bekks, Windows 7 let me run both with no problem
[19:50] <bekks> Mkeer: Windows has a different memory management and a totally different swap usage model.
[19:50] <bekks> Mkeer: And Windows 7 is irrelevant in here ;)
[19:51] <Jordan_U> Mkeer: Do you have a swap file/partition?
[19:51] <clue_h> Mkeer, and it depends what the script is doing and if it is well written
[19:52] <Jordan_U> Marikawn: Is this a Desktop or a server?
[19:52] <Casey> Hello, I need help with fstab. Trying to get my raid1 to mount durring bootup. Can someone check it out and make sure I make the correct input. Last two lines are the raid http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872046/
[19:52] <Marikawn> Desktop
[19:52] <cat_five> okay i've got a good one for you. pretty sure i'm going to have to nuke this instance, but want to see if there's any last minute ideas
[19:53] <cat_five> client tried to install his own SSL cert and ended up chown'ing /etc to www-data
[19:53] <zipy> Mkeer, maybe ur swap is full aswell
[19:53] <raven> any tool to "convert" atom, rss, and other feeds to e-mail?
[19:53] <cat_five> this is an AWS instance, so no root access, just ubuntu with sudo privileges.
[19:53] <bekks> Casey: The last line is wrong. You need to specify the mountpoint, filesystem, and the options - just like in the lines before.
[19:53] <Mkeer> zipy, swap is at 478MB/1.1GB right now
[19:53] <cat_five> obviously, though, sudoers is in /etc, so...
[19:54] <Marikawn> Thanks for your help btw
[19:54] <bekks> Casey: sudo IS root access.
[19:54] <Jordan_U> Marikawn: Ubuntu 10.04 is no longer supported on the Desktop (only server packages are supported). So I you really need to upgrade to at least Ubuntu 12.04 (which you can do directly).
[19:54] <Marikawn> cool deal, i'll do that
[19:54] <cat_five> bekks: not if the sudoers file can't be read
[19:54] <Casey> bekks: can you show me an example of what the last line should look like? and what do you mean by "sudo IS root access"?
[19:54] <Marikawn> Thank you
[19:55] <cat_five> Casey: bekks meant that for me
[19:55] <bekks> cat_five: Then you dint have sudo access.
[19:55] <zipy> Mkeer, and ur chrome chrashes even if ur swap is only half in use?
[19:55] <Casey> cat_five: ohh, ha
[19:55] <bekks> cat_five: you can find examples in line 10 and 12 of your paste.
[19:55] <guntbert> !u | zipy
[19:55] <fulcan> I did an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.10 and now my boot hangs. I tried booting to recovery mode. the best I can do is get to the recovery mode screen. no traceable error (last 100 lines of message) http://sprunge.us/ARKQ .  I am booted to a rescue disk and chrooted to the os now.
[19:55] <cat_five> bekks: user `ubuntu` had sudo access, but my client used it to change the permissions of all of /etc
[19:55] <Jordan_U> Marikawn: We still need to fix your dpkg problems before you can upgrade (unless you fresh install), but we can do so by simply removing snort.
[19:56] <bekks> cat_five: So you need to restore a recent backup now.
[19:56] <zipy> guntbert, -.-
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> Mkeer, You can adjust the swappiness to get the most out if the ram basically before swapping.
[19:56] <cat_five> yeah that's what i thought. i'll just migrate to a new instance
[19:56] <shahbaz> register
[19:56] <guntbert> !11.10 | fulcan
[19:57] <clue_h> !lts
[19:57] <fulcan> ubottu that's what do-release-upgrade fed me
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> fulcan, 12.04 is where desktop releases are supported as of now, you may want to do a install.
[19:57] <zipy> !r
[19:58] <guntbert> !askthebot | clue_h
[19:58] <fulcan> guntbert that's what do-release-upgrade fed me
[19:58] <clue_h> !askthebot | guntbert
[19:58] <zipy> haha
[19:58] <Jordan_U> fulcan: It will probably be much easier to just install 12.04 rather than trying to upgrade. Is there any reason you don't want to do that?
[19:59] <guntbert> fulcan: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> fulcan, You started this from a end of life, there is a terminal upgrade needed not a gui, but eol's are not supported.
[19:59] <fulcan> Jordan_U the applications/services installed cannot be deleted.
[20:00] <Jordan_U> fulcan: What applications/services? If they are custom software then they probably won't work with a supported release anyway (without being updated) and if they are not custom software, you should be able to just install them again.
[20:00] <fulcan> Jordan_U custom code hooked into apache.
[20:01] <fulcan> Jordan_U configs everywhere on the system
[20:01] <fulcan> it's getting upgraded, not deleted.
[20:02] <Jordan_U> fulcan: So you have a custom configuration that isn't fully documented and that you don't fully understand?
[20:02] <fulcan> Jordan_U they will NEVER successfully copy to a clean/new drive
[20:03] <Jordan_U> fulcan: Please answer my question.
[20:04] <fulcan> Jordan_U dude, how many times do I have to repeat myself.
[20:04] <Peyam> How do I show the GPU's temperature in conky? using AMD radeon hd. Im using ${font StyleBats:size=14}A${font}   Temp CPU3:${alignr}${execi 120 sensors | grep 'Core 2' | awk '{print $3}' | cut -c2-3}°C
[20:04] <Peyam> sorry
[20:04] <Peyam> How do I show the GPU's temperature in conky? using AMD radeon hd. Im using Temp GPU:${alignr}${execi 120 sensors | grep 'temp1' | awk '{print $3}' | cut -c2-3}°C
[20:05] <Casey>  bekks: would just duplicating what is in line 10 to line 14 (except for duplicating the UUID) work?
[20:05] <Casey>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872046/
[20:05] <elijah|otl> Hey guys, I am running nvidia drivers on 13.04, I cannot change my laptop to any resolution other than 1920x1080, the other options don't exist. I am trying to connect to a projector at a Drupal Camp. Any ideas?
[20:05] <Casey> Sorry if I double posted, just got disconnected.
[20:05] <bekks> Casey: No. You have to modify the mountpoint too, at least. And you may have to adjust the options, too.
[20:05] <Jordan_U> fulcan: I'm asking a reasonable question for clarification. Please answer it so that I can try to help you.
[20:06] <Casey> bekks: looking at line 10 is the mount point the "/"?
[20:06] <Casey> after the UUID
[20:06] <fulcan> Jordan_U the services are not documents and all over the system
[20:06] <bekks> Casey: Yes.
[20:06] <fulcan> not documented
[20:07] <Casey> bekks: thank. I'll modify and try again.
[20:07] <fulcan> all custom code, 4 yrs old++
[20:07] <lolcat> How can I trim ALL of my SSD?
[20:08] <wheatthin> trim? like adding stickers? LOL
[20:08] <Jordan_U> fulcan: Then I think you have very little chance of getting them working again with a supported verison of Ubuntu. That may not be what you want to hear, but it's likely unavoidable. If you want to get this system running again you're probably ging to have to do a lot of work figuring out how all of this was configured, and probably also update some of the custom code.
[20:09] <Jordan_U> lolcat: You want to lose all of the data on the drive permanently?
[20:09] <fulcan> Jordan_U that's why I am trying to upgrade.
[20:09] <raven> any tool to "convert" atom, rss, and other feeds to e-mail?
[20:10] <lolcat> Jordan_U: I want to make the wear leveling work
[20:10] <Jordan_U> fulcan: Upgrading isn't magic. I expect that your custom code will need to be updated to work with a newer version of Apache, at least.
[20:11] <lolcat> I never used trim before
[20:11] <fulcan> Jordan_U yup, the nightmare begines.
[20:11] <lolcat> now I started using it
[20:13] <Jordan_U> lolcat: If you want to trim all of the free space on a given filesystem, allowing the drive to know that those bits can be discarded, run "sudo fstrim /mountpoint/" where /mountpoint/ is the mountpoint of the filesystem you want to trim.
[20:13] <Genyar> Hey, which companies make the best internal hard drives?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> raven: http://www.allthingsrss.com/rss2email/
[20:13] <Jordan_U> Genyar: That's more of a question for ##hardware (and is also somewhat subjective).
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> genyar: that is an opinion. none are best
[20:14] <Genyar> ok, I'll go to hardware
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> genyar: if one was best. nobody would by any other drive
[20:14] <Genyar> #hardware
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> genyar: think about it.....its preposterous
[20:14] <Genyar> How do I get to hardware?
[20:15] <Genyar> I tired typing #hardware but it didn't work
[20:15] <Jordan_U> Genyar: Type "/join ##hardware" (without the quotes)
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> genyar: type: /join #hardware
[20:15] <Genyar> ok
[20:15] <shahbaz> .
[20:15] <lolcat> Jordan_U: I wanted something more like hdparm --trim-sectors 0:inf
[20:15] <raven> ActionParsnip, i tried that already but i have several problems to configure mail, no way to read atom and such
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> genyar: its like asking "what is the best colour"
[20:15] <Peyam> anybody knows how to get the GPU temperature?
[20:16] <Jordan_U> lolcat: OK, then I ask again. Do you want to lose all of the data currently on the drive permanently?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> raven: or use a terminal reader and pipe the text to a text file or whatever
[20:17] <clue_h> Peyam, lm-sensors might work, i use it for temperature readings
[20:17] <lolcat> Jordan_U: remove it
[20:17] <Peyam> clue_h: I need to show it in conky- Already got lm-senstrs
[20:17] <martinrame> hi, I'm using mutt as my main mail client, but I need to find another more-html-friendly one for my work accounts. Do you know any Maildir capable email client?
[20:17] <Jordan_U> lolcat: I don't understand that answer.
[20:17] <lolcat> Jordan_U: Loosing data would imply I would not be inpossesion of it anymore
[20:18] <lolcat> Which is not the case
[20:18] <lolcat> I just want to remove it from the ssd
[20:18] <lolcat> And not necissarily permanently
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> martinrame: apparently thunderbird can
[20:19] <matematikaadit> I
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> martinrame: according to wikipedia
[20:19] <matematikaadit> I've strange behaviour with unity.
[20:20] <martinrame> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll look further into thunderbird.
[20:20] <Jordan_U> lolcat: OK. But you understand that after running trim on the entire drive it will be as if the entire drive contains only zeroes, so any data on the drive that is not backed up elsewhere will be gone. Correct?
[20:21] <martinrame> What I really need, is to have something else for answering html mail, because in mutt it looks weird when my emails are read from Oulook.
[20:21] <lolcat> Jordan_U: No it won't. It will be 1s
[20:21] <lolcat> and not really ones either
[20:22] <matematikaadit> when I turn off Desktop Icons (via unity-tweak-tool), somehow dash could not be started by pressing Super key when there are no program running.
[20:22] <NeverHere> I am trying to copy files between my ubuntu server and my windows computer, i know scp works for linux to linux but idk how to use scp in windows if you even can, any ideas on how?
[20:25] <matematikaadit> anyone could reproduce the bugs I mentioned above? I've using ubuntu 13.04.
[20:25] <rypervenche> NeverHere: I would recommend getting cygwin on your Windows machine and setting up SSH on it.
[20:26] <NeverHere> rypervenche, windows machine is loaded with malware, am trying to stream malwarebytes to it to remove malware, since i cant download anything on windows machine
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> neverhere: use filezilla
[20:27] <NeverHere> otherwise i would just use bitvise
[20:27] <rypervenche> NeverHere: Can't use a USB drive?
[20:27] <NeverHere> is for a friend of mine 2:30 min away :/
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> neverhere: you can copy files to the hidden shares which arr default in Windows
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> neverhere: every drive is default shared in windows.
[20:28] <Jordan_U> lolcat: You should be able to run "sudo hdparm --trim-sector-ranges 0:65534 65535:131069 ... /dev/sdX" to trim all of the ranges (in incrememts of 65535) of the drive. #Warning to anyone else reading this, this command will wipe all data from a drive, do not use it.
[20:28] <NeverHere> yes but from command prompt what do you type to stream a file from a server to the windows machine?
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> neverhere: mount the share then copy to it. or setup a windows side sftp service etc
[20:29] <NeverHere> there is no windows equivalent of scp?
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> neverhere: winscp
[20:30] <NeverHere> winscp is installed on xp by default?
[20:30] <martinrame> NeverHere: cygwin
[20:30] <NeverHere> again the system cannot download anything from the internet
[20:30] <rypervenche> NeverHere: You're going to need to install something on it no matter what if you don't have Internet access.
[20:30] <NeverHere> otherwise i wouldn't have this problem
[20:30] <bekks> NeverHere: How is that question related to Ubuntu?
[20:31] <NeverHere> is coming from an ubuntu server bekks
[20:31] <NeverHere> :p
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> neverhere: then you can mount the hidden shares and copy. Its all samba stuff
[20:31] <NeverHere> k thanks
[20:32] <wissam_> Hi , less /etc/fstab shows only one partion "ext4" but i have 4 other mounted ntfs partions !
[20:32] <rypervenche> wissam_: Then you can add them if you want them to start with the system.
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> wissam_: gvfs is mounting the partitions as you access them
[20:34] <bekks> wissam_: fstab does not necessarily contain every mounted filesystem.
[20:34] <wissam_> but they are already mounted
[20:34] <wissam_> bekks: Ok thnx
[20:34] <bekks> wissam_: Which still doesnt imply that have to be in the fstab. :)
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> wissam_: fstab contains file systems to mount at boot or file systems that need special options
[20:36] <raven> how to configure rss2email to use postfix?
[20:39] <wissam_> i like linux and want to learn shell programming but when i see you talking about a lot of things that i don't know i feel disappointed :/
[20:39] <Pinkamena_D> I installed connman and coul dnot get it to work, so I uninstalled it. This took away network manager, so I installed that again. Now the network manager icon will not show up
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> raven: http://archive.is/EyxiT
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> pinkamena: do you need to connect to other networks?
[20:40] <Pinkamena_D> its a laptop, so..yes
[20:40] <Pinkamena_D> I like wicd better but for some reason I could never get it to connect on resume
[20:41] <Pinkamena_D> I want to know how to fix it anyway, just so I know for the future.
[20:41] <raven> ActionParsnip, thats all done nothing works
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> pinkamena_D: try purging the packages then reinstalling them may help
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> raven: do they have an irc channel?
[20:42] <raven> no
[20:42] <Pinkamena_D> trying it...
[20:44] <Guest40352> hello i am new here and i want to know more about this thank you.
[20:44] <Pinkamena_D> no, purging and reinstalling (then sudo service start) still does not show up
[20:45] <Guest40352> hello
[20:45] <Pinkamena_D> does not seem to show up in sysmonitor either
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> pinkamena_D: is nm-applet running?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> guest40352: about what?
[20:47] <Pinkamena_D> I don't see it in network manager, if that is where you are supposed to see it.
[20:47] <Pinkamena_D> Im sorry, I meant in sysmonitor
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> pinkamena_D: ps -ef | grep applet | grep -v grep
[20:48] <Pinkamena_D> no
[20:48] <Pinkamena_D> just bluetooth applet
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> pinkamena_D: try running nm-applet
[20:48] <guntbert> Guest40352: this is the official Ubuntu support channel. Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:48] <Pinkamena_D> nm-applet
[20:48] <Pinkamena_D> oops
[20:48] <Guest40352> please is there any way i can chert on facebook from here?
[20:48] <Pinkamena_D> ok that works
[20:48] <guntbert> !enter | Pinkamena_D
[20:49] <guntbert> Guest40352: no, sorry
[20:49] <Guest40352> tks
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> pinkamena_D: reboot. if its not there add it to the startup manually
[20:49] <Pinkamena_D> ok
[20:49] <Pinkamena_D> weird
[20:49] <ripplebit> Anyone with experience running a server on several linux distro's, which do you use and why?
[20:49] <Pinkamena_D> thank you for the assistance
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> pinkamena_d: indeed
[20:49] <guntbert> !ot | ripplebit
[20:58] <bourbon102> yo
[21:07] <asad2005> I am having problem with my /home partion is full but when i do du -sh /home/asad/* | sort -rh | head -n 10 i dont see big size compared with my partition size, Is there a hidden file that this command is not listing its an SSD partition?
[21:07] <bekks> asad2005: du counts the space used - regardless of wether files are hidden or not.
[21:08] <Xabster> Hi, I want to experience 13.04 in a VM on windows 7 or a live boot USB before doing the switch - is there a notable difference in my experience by doing either?
[21:08] <asad2005> the other thing i am suspection is that i have changed my downloads folder to refer to a folder in different part and that partition size is much bigger than /home
[21:08] <bekks> asad2005: and -h is messing up the output of sort.
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> Xabster, Both will be slower at the least.
[21:09] <Xabster> of course :)
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> Xabster, A virtual generally has its own drivers rather than using the repos, so some differences there.
[21:10] <bekks> asad2005: Then use du -shx instead du -sh
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> Xabster, Both good ways to try it out though.
[21:10] <Xabster> right, cause it's emulated devices... will a live usb install proper drivers for my GFX card? that used to be a problem for me to test whether or not i could get them to work on nix distros
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> Xabster, The live should you will need a persistent setup to save them, if the usb is big enough you can do a full install as well.
[21:11] <bekks> Xabster: the "live usb installer" is exactly the same as the iso based installer. Just another medium.
[21:12] <Xabster> yes, but it does not allow me to install a propriatery driver for my GFX card to see if it works
[21:12] <Xabster> a VM install will
[21:12] <Xabster> but a VM will be using a emulated device
[21:12] <bekks> Wrong.
[21:12] <Xabster> which part?
[21:12] <asad2005> bekks: How i can restore the default download folder to start with?
[21:12] <Eoin_> hey i installed garrys mod the linux version and now everytime i boot up my laptop it boots into busybox
[21:13] <bekks> A VM == (virtualized machine) is not emulated. And in a VM, you will not be able to use the drivers for the GFX card of your host.
[21:13] <bekks> asad2005: I dont know what you did - I cant tell you what you need to do to revert it.
[21:13] <Xabster> that's what i said...
[21:13] <Xabster> the devices are
[21:13] <bekks> Xabster: They arent. They are virtualized.
[21:13] <Xabster> the device for GFX that the VM sees is the VirtualBox "emulated" device
[21:14] <Xabster> or VMWare GFX Adapter
[21:14] <Xabster> or whatever
[21:14] <asad2005> bekks: i tried du -shx still same couldnot pointed out which file or folder is eating my 81 gb
[21:14] <bekks> Xabster: Now you get into the details. For vbox and vmware, thats true.
[21:14] <bekks> asad2005: Cannot be the same, since -x will not count stuff on another filesystem.
[21:14] <volitek_> I'm trying to install ubuntu after windows, fdisk -l shows my windows partitions and warns me that they're GPT so it can't work on them, and gparted displays the whole disk as unallocated. How do I resize my windows partition to install ubuntu next to it?
[21:14] <Eoin_> so anyone know how to get back to unity from busy box
[21:14] <Xabster> basicly i've had problems with GFX drivers. Neither VMWare, VirtualBox, or a live USB will allow me to test if I can get it to work - got any 4th option?
[21:15] <joobie> guys
[21:15] <bekks> volitek_: You cant, using gparted.
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> xabster: you can install the video driver in live cd then restart the x server and it will load
[21:15] <joobie> how do you get around that installer ubuntu bug where grub-install faisl?
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> volitek_, THis a W8 dualboot?
[21:15] <bekks> Xabster: Test on real hardware.
[21:15] <joobie> something to do with EFI/UEFI ?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> xabster: killall -u $USER ,will do it
[21:15] <Xabster> bekks: right, but that's what I want to avoid really - dual booting has messed up a lot for me in the past
[21:15] <Xabster> ActionParsnip: ?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> !uefi
[21:16] <bekks> Xabster: Thats the only way to do what you want.
[21:16] <Eoin_> feck off
[21:16] <bekks> Eoin_: behave.
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> xabster: how can i reply to a question mark.....seriously?
[21:16] <Xabster> ActionParsnip: you're saying I can fake "persistent drivers" by killing all my users' processes and "reboot" part of it only?
[21:16] <volitek_> wilee-nilee: no, it's windows 7
[21:16] <Eoin_> is the linux mint irc still around
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> !mint
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> volitek_, Check the uefi bot info.
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> xabster: install driver, kill all use processes and the driver will load. you dont need to reboot. this isnt windows
[21:17] <joobie> thanks ActionParsnip
[21:17] <Xabster> okay... but *if* I reboot the driver will be gone of course, right?
[21:18] <joobie> ActionParsnip, why doesn't ubuntu better supprot it?
[21:18] <bekks> Xabster: No. :)
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> joobie: no idea. im trying to avoid it. its getting better
[21:19] <joobie> ActionParsnip, why?
[21:19] <fulcan> I did an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.10 and then 12.2, now my boot hangs. I tried booting to recovery mode. the best I can do is get to the recovery mode screen. no traceable error. it seems to try and mount the filesystem, and that's where it hangs.
[21:20] <volitek_> wilee-nilee: it doesn't say how to resize. If I choose 'do something else' in the install, it shows it as an empty disk, all free space.
[21:20] <bekks> fulcan: So you ommited 11.04? And its 12.04 btw.
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> fulcan: did you upgrade to 11.04 in between maverick and oneiric
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> fulcan, You ever get this fixed in 11.10 or just upgraded anyway?
[21:20] <user_590>  witam ktos z  polski  hello
[21:20] <bekks> !pl | user_590
[21:20] <fulcan> bekks yup, I got it to 12.04
[21:21] <bekks> fulcan: And you ommitted 11.04?
[21:21] <fulcan> wilee-nilee upgraded.
[21:21] <fulcan> bekks no
[21:21] <niargh> Ubuntu 12.04LTS -- two monitors -- is there a way to have Ctrl+Alt+F1 (or F2, F3, ...) bring up a session login on a specific monitor?
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> joobie: i avoid stuff that isnt known to work well. so until uefi gets nice ill be keeping it off. i dont use windows so my life is easy :-)
[21:21] <bekks> niargh: it will come up on the first one, always.
[21:22] <joobie> ActionParsnip, ahh.. you are a conservative man?
[21:22] <niargh> bekks: Ok, thanks!
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> fulcan: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> fulcan, Heh, you have a mess there I will put you in my prayers to my agnostic higher power. ;)
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> joobie: just smart in my purchases
[21:22] <rahules> hi, i'm not able to connect to ad-hoc network created in windows7 in ubuntu 13.04, the network manager panel shows the network name as greyed out.  My wireless driver is broadcom 4313, using bcmwl -kernel-source driver
[21:23] <fulcan> this is where it hangs  http://i44.tinypic.com/jgtdzm.png
[21:23] <fulcan> ActionParsnip it's a vps
[21:23] <Diamondcite> rahules: Is the Windows Ad-Hoc network secured with WPA? If so try the weaker WEP security
[21:23] <rahules> Diamondcite: yes. the network is using a WPA Personal secured key
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> fulcan, You have a image of the original?
[21:24] <fulcan> wilee-nilee yes
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> fulcan: id boot livecd and fsck the partitions
[21:24] <Diamondcite> rahules: As stated, please with the weaker WEP security an attempt instead
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> fulcan, You started the upgrade incorrectly, if it were me I would make another of it and run the standard eol upgrade.
[21:24] <fulcan> ActionParsnip ok, but I doubt it's that. it's a new vps
[21:24] <rahules> Diamondcite: . okay. will try
[21:24] <rahules> Diamondcite: thanks
[21:25] <bekks> fulcan: If its new, why did it have 10.10 preinstalled? :)
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> fulcan: thats probably why the filesystem wont mount cleanly
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> bekks: +1
[21:26] <fulcan> bekks I created the vps image and then rsync'ed the os to the local/new vps
[21:26] <bekks> fulcan: Earlier you said, you have 4+ years old software on it. So I do not believe you actually have a "new" VPS.
[21:26] <bekks> fulcan: And now you are wondering why it wont boot - on a different vps?
[21:26] <fulcan> bekks I know linux a lot better than that.
[21:26] <bekks> fulcan: I doubt that, too.
[21:27] <fulcan> bekks I migrate boxes the same way every day.
[21:27] <fulcan> it booted fine on the vps until upgrade.
[21:27] <jhutchins> ActionParsnip: You know uEFI has been around for ages, right?
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> same vps different container I think that is the mix up here
[21:28] <jhutchins> I was building systems on it in 2008.
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> jhutchins: yes. all my systems are circa 2002 ish...
[21:29] <fulcan> wilee-nilee the container was fine and rebooted 20 times, then I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.something and that when the boot failure began. I got it up to 12 now and same issue.
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> fulcan, Right but you used the gui upgrade, this is a eol, it has a specific upgrade method
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> !eol | fulcan
[21:30] <jhutchins> fulcan: I suppose a couple of tests would be to install 11 or 12 directly to a new VM.  Doesn't take long.  That or try running one of them as a live image.
[21:30] <volitek_> I ran boot-repair summary: http://paste2.org/MtjbVs44
[21:31] <volitek_> I mean http://paste2.org/MtJbVs44
[21:31] <fulcan> wilee-nilee I never touch guis
[21:31] <fulcan> wilee-nilee I am not eol anymore!
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> fulcan, I thought you had said you ran the upgrade manager, never the less did you use the eol upgrade, curbe your ego here please.
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> fulcan, !0.10 was, if it were me I would throw away this bad upgrade and run one from the original correctly.
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> easy peasy
[21:33] <fulcan> do-release-upgrade
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> volitek_: is this a wubi install?
[21:33] <fulcan> wilee-nilee ^^ upgrade method
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> fulcan, incorrect for the eol
[21:33] <jhutchins> volitek_: I haven't messed with the installer on GPT yet - what if you just resize it with a gparted live disc before you do the install?
[21:34] <volitek_> ActionParsnip: no
[21:34] <jhutchins> volitek_: gparted can also create the "fake" dos partition table for you.
[21:34] <dnf0sq> New user, need help! Ubuntu Server 12.04, connected over ssh, trying to run an app over wine which throws error that it tried to create a window but no driver could be loaded, so i tried running startx over ssh, which threw error
[21:34] <dnf0sq> Fatal server error:
[21:34] <dnf0sq> xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted)
[21:34] <volitek_> jhutchins: That's what I want to do but gparted shows it as unallocated :(
[21:34] <dnf0sq> (Running everything as root)
[21:34] <bekks> jhutchins: gparted cant deal with GPT, iirc.
[21:34] <jhutchins> bekks: I thought it was the go-to tool...
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> volitek_: try booting to livecd and chroot to the installed OS and reinstate Grub to the MBR. OmgUbuntu has a guide called: sticking it to grub
[21:35] <jhutchins> dnf0sq: Why do you think this should work?
[21:35] <bekks> dnf0sq: Stop running a graphical application as root. And using ssh, you have to use ssh -X, and start a X server on your client before.
[21:35] <pawan> Sound Recorder has stopped working on my Ubuntu 13.04. I think it's because I've broken some packages while updating some libqt4 files recently.
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> dnf0sq: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:36] <dnf0sq> bekks: are you saying that i should run startx over vnc before connecting through ssh?
[21:36] <dnf0sq> bekks: also, i am not running wine through the root user
[21:36] <bekks> dnf0sq: No. I did not even talk about startx since its deprecated. I said: dont use root. I said: use ssh -X
[21:36] <jhutchins> dnf0sq: No.  Why do you think you would be able to do that?
[21:36] <volitek_> ActionParsnip: I don't have a linux install, I'm on a live cd trying to install ubuntu
[21:36] <bekks> dnf0sq: stop using the root user for things like wine and stuff.
[21:36] <wilee-nilee> volitek_, You have not installed yet right?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> dnf0sq: what is the output of the command I gave please
[21:36] <volitek_> But I can't resize my windows partition
[21:37] <volitek_> because it shows it as unallocated
[21:37] <volitek_> so i cant install
[21:37] <dnf0sq> bekks: Once again, I am not using root user for wine.
[21:37] <volitek_> wilee-nilee: right
[21:37] <bekks> dnf0sq: Then why do you use the root user at all?
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> volitek_, You use the windows disk manager to resize
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> volitek_: then boot to windows and resize there if its win7
[21:37] <volitek_> Can you resize the partition whilst using it?
[21:37] <dnf0sq> bekks: 1 min
[21:37] <volitek_> or do I need to boot into some windows live cd
[21:37] <pawan> Could anyone help me identify broken packages?
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> volitek_, In windows yes, it;s like magic.
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> volitek_: windows can resize its own ntfs
[21:38] <dnf0sq> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/ENZXLNT9
[21:38] <joobie> boys
[21:38] <volitek_> Oh, cool, I'll give it a go
[21:38] <joobie> im creating a partition layout manually on my disk
[21:38] <joobie> so that Ubuntu can install to it as it's UEFI
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> !enter | joobie
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> !uefi > joobie
[21:39] <joobie> i made the first partition 200MB and gave it a mountpoint of /boot/efi .. fat32.. would i then tell it to install grub onto this partition?
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> joobie, More uefi if needed. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> dnf0sq: then connect with: ssh -X user@server
[21:40] <jhutchins> Confirmed that command-line parted has been able to handle GPT since at leaste 2010.
[21:40] <joobie> wilee-nilee, it is such a shitfight to get it working
[21:40] <fulcan> wilee-nilee filesystem is clean
[21:40] <joobie> wilee-nilee, are there plans for it to be natively built into the installer to handle this?
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> fulcan, Not sure of the relevance, but okay.
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> dnf0sq: you can then run GUI apps and they wil show up on the client system
[21:40] <bekks> fulcan: How did you check - which exact command did you use?
[21:41] <dnf0sq> Alright, so, as normal user i run "sh mw2server.sh", which is: http://pastebin.com/0qfv4M6m . After that i get output: http://pastebin.com/qQQZV9KQ
[21:41] <fulcan> bekks fsck /dev/sda1
[21:41] <bekks> fulcan: You should have used the -f option.
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> fulcan, As an analogy you are trying to fix brain surgery started with a crowbar rather then the correct tools.
[21:41] <volitek_> Wow, done, that really is like magic
[21:41] <fulcan> it there was anything to fix
[21:42] <jhutchins> volitek_: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-gpt/
[21:42] <bekks> dnf0sq: I told you to use ssh -X and to have a running X server on your client.
[21:42] <dnf0sq> bekks: How do I get X server running?
[21:42] <bekks> dnf0sq: But installing it locally on your client, and not on your server.
[21:42] <fulcan> same with -f
[21:43] <dnf0sq> bekks: installing what locally on my client?
[21:43] <bekks> dnf0sq: The X server.
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> volitek_: simple stuff dude
[21:43] <jhutchins> Also confirmed that the current Parted Magick Live CD will handle GPT.
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> fulcan, And you alienated some of the best help with your ego, best if luck your in my ignore as of now.
[21:44] <dnf0sq> bekks: i am connecting through windows (putty) on ssh server on my ubuntu 12.04 server
[21:44] <Wh1plash> Anyone have any strong feelings about tmux?
[21:44] <bekks> dnf0sq: Then install an X server on your Windows.
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> dnf0sq: you wil need a running x server on the client. if you are connecting with desktop linux then you have an x server. for windows you can install xming :-)
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> wh1plash: its not bad
[21:44] <jhutchins> wilee-nilee: You can NOT display remote GUI programs with putty.
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> jhutchins, Heh, did I say you could. ;)
[21:45] <Wh1plash> ActionParsnip: I just started messing around with it. Do you use it much? Use cases?
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> jhutchins: you can but it needs and x server too.
[21:45] <dnf0sq> bekks: installed xming
[21:46] <jhutchins> wilee-nilee: Sorry, that was meant to be to dnf0sq
[21:46] <jhutchins> dnf0sq: http://www.math.umn.edu/systems_guide/putty_xwin32.html
[21:46] <bekks> dnf0sq: Then create a new putty session using X-Forwarding
[21:46] <joobie> man this failed again
[21:46] <joobie> grr
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> jhutchins, Heh, I figured, no biggie. ;)
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> wh1plash: connecting to multiplr solaris 10 boxes. I also use cssh
[21:46] <volitek_> Okay... So I resized the windows partition in windows but the ubuntu live cd is still showing the whole disk as unallocated. How am I meant to install without overwriting windows?
[21:46] <bekks> clusterssh is pretty cool. :)
[21:47] <dnf0sq> jhutchins: i do not want to display gui over putty, i want to run gui (somewhere), no need to see what's happening with gui
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> volitek_: tried chkdsking your ntfs partition in windows?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> bekks: very
[21:47] <volitek_> Nope, i'll give it a o
[21:47] <volitek_> go
[21:47] <bekks> ActionParsnip: I'm using it for the same thing as you :)
[21:48] <jhutchins> dnf0sq: Then you need to know how to tell the GUI you're trying to run which display to run on.
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> volitek_, YOu might give a the full history if your setup W7 with got is a bit unusual, was this a W8 at one time is it a apple computer. May be a broken partition table, details will help the channel.
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> gpt*
[21:48] <jhutchins> dnf0sq: You also need to have the xauth key that allows you to manipulate a display that is "owned" by a different log-in.
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> volitek_, Sorry for the bad spelling.....You might give a full history if your setup W7 with gpt is a bit unusual, was this a W8 at one time is it a apple computer. May be a broken partition table, details will help the channel.
[21:49] <_44trent3> How do I use the fglrx-installer_8.960.orig.tar.gz file I downloaded. I used this tutrorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[21:49] <_44trent3> It linked me to a page to download it.
[21:50] <dnf0sq> jhutchins: xauth key? i'm a noob to linux, though i am eager to learn.
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> dnf0sq: then why are you messing with root if you are new to the OS?
[21:51] <dnf0sq> ActionParsnip: mostly following tutorials
[21:51] <bekks> dnf0sq: If you want to run a graphical application like wine - and you dont want to see it - why do you run it?
[21:52] <volitek_> chkdsk found no problems
[21:52] <_44trent3> Anyone?
[21:52] <dnf0sq> bekks: it's a mw2 server, there's no other way (i think) to run it, but as gui which is a custom console
[21:52] <volitek_> wilee-nilee: It's a desktop I built, just put a new mobo in it and reinstalled windows from scratch
[21:52] <Stickythighs> I am new to linux
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> volitek_, Your problem is you have gpt remnants, your not actualy using gpt this is problematic for linux, hold on.
[21:53] <jkitchen> question: when I install libvirt-bin on a fresh system, it creates (and starts) a /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks/default file. I'd like to prevent that from happening. is there a way to do so?
[21:53] <jhutchins> dnf0sq: This may give you the information you need: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/10121/open-a-window-on-a-remote-x-display-why-cannot-open-display
[21:54] <joshskidmore> anyone have experience with smaller NAS solutions (for home / small business)?
[21:54] <dnf0sq> ty
[21:54] <_44trent3> It said to install it through the hardware drivers but I don't know how to do so.
[21:54] <bekks> dnf0sq: So you need to display the "custom console". So you need a X server on your client to display it.
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> volitek_, http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/wipegpt.html
[21:55] <dnf0sq> bekks: there's no need to see wtf is in the "custom console", i just need to have it running in background - no need to interact with gui
[21:55] <bekks> dnf0sq: Without displaying it, you cannot run it.
[21:55] <_44trent3> ANYBODY!
[21:56] <dnf0sq> jhutchins: export DISPLAY=:1 is already in my .sh file
[21:56] <bekks> _44trent3: We can read lower caps too.
[21:56] <bekks> dnf0sq: You need a running X server on your client.
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> volitek_, Your tool needed is this from that link. http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[21:56] <jhutchins> dnf0sq: http://jdimpson.livejournal.com/2992.html
[21:56] <jhutchins> dnf0sq: :1 is probably wrong.
[21:56] <dnf0sq> bekks: such as xming?
[21:56] <bekks> dnf0sq: Yes.
[21:56] <dnf0sq> bekks: already have it running (since you asked me to install it)
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> volitek_, I'm not sure as far as the integrity of the W7 so read carefully.
[21:57] <_44trent3> How do I use thia file then:  fglrx-installer_8.960.orig.tar.gz
[21:57] <bekks> dnf0sq: Then you have to do the second thing I told you, too.
[21:57] <jhutchins> bekks: I believe he is trying to launch a GUI program remotely, with the display running on the remote machine, not forwarded back to his client.
[21:57] <dnf0sq> bekks: which is?
[21:57] <bekks> jhutchins: Without a X server, thats pretty impossible-
[21:57] <bekks> dnf0sq: setup the putty session to forward X.
[21:58] <dnf0sq> jhutchins: yup
[21:58] <jhutchins> dnf0sq: Do you not have X running on the remote server?
[21:58] <dnf0sq> bekks: done already
[21:58] <jhutchins> dnf0sq: A "yup" to a negative is confusing.
[21:59] <dnf0sq> bekks: you mean X11 forwarding?
[21:59] <bekks> dnf0sq: Thats what I said two times, yes.
[21:59] <Jordan_U> _44trent3: You don't. Use the driver installation feature of Ubuntu Software Center.
[21:59] <dnf0sq> jhutchins: "bekks: I believe he is trying to launch a GUI..." - YUP, I am!
[21:59] <_44trent3> Ooooh.
[22:00] <dnf0sq> bekks: it's already set up, checked the checkbox "X11 Forwarding", and connected as normal user. tried shing mw2server.sh, same output
[22:00] <bekks> dnf0sq: Then export DISPLAY=:1 is wrong.
[22:00] <volitek_> wilee-nilee: it worked!! thank you soooo much!!!
[22:00] <bekks> dnf0sq: Just omit it completely, and restart the session.
[22:01] <volitek_> and i learn some stuff i didnt know before woop
[22:01] <Jordan_U> !pm | _44trent3
[22:01] <jhutchins> dnf0sq: You are not being very clear.  I realize this is frustrating, and having several people telling you things may not help.  You can either launch the GUI app and tell it to display on the server where it's running, if that server is running a GUI, or you can tell the app to display on the system you are working from if you run a local Xserver and tell putty to forward to it.  You might want to use something simple like xclock to te
[22:01] <jhutchins> dnf0sq: I do not know specifically that Wine will work this way, but it should.
[22:01] <dnf0sq> bekks: ls /tmp/.X11-unix/ gives me output "X1"
[22:02]  * jhutchins goes off to watch NASCAR
[22:02] <Voi> how do i get a disk mounted on starting banshee
[22:02] <_44trent3> ...
[22:03] <usr13> !info tagtool | share
[22:03] <dnf0sq> bekks: so, "logout", open new putty, create new session with x11 forwarding turned on, and then connecting as normal user & running .sh should work?
[22:03] <_44trent3> WHERE DO I FIND THAT THEN!??!
[22:03] <bekks> dnf0sq: No.
[22:03] <dnf0sq> bekks: Okay, what did I miss?
[22:03] <bekks> dnf0sq: Remove that export ... from the script, close the putty session, restart the putty session.
[22:03] <bekks> _44trent3: STOP SHOUTING PLEASE.
[22:05] <_44trent3> Where...do...I...FIND IT!!
[22:05] <bekks> _44trent3: Stop shouting.
[22:05] <dnf0sq> bekks: alright, done. should i NOW do "sh mw2server.sh"?
[22:05] <bekks> dnf0sq: Yes.
[22:05] <_44trent3> Where do I find it...
[22:06] <bekks> _44trent3: Where do you find ... what? Please tell us what you are looking for.
[22:06] <dnf0sq> alright, getting the gui output, however, i got another error
[22:06] <_44trent3> The driver installation feature in Ubuntu Software Center.
[22:06] <dnf0sq> bekks: my message above + http://pastebin.com/JutqqnHa
[22:06] <energizer> My SSD is ~full so I'm trying to move /home to my HDD, but I'm having some trouble with the guides. Can someone help me through it? Do i necessarily want to make a new partition for /home on my storage HDD, or can I keep it in the same partition with everything else?
[22:07] <bekks> dnf0sq: The last line of your paste states that you are missing a file.
[22:07] <dnf0sq> bekks: i know, but are you familiar with that particular file?
[22:08] <bekks> dnf0sq: Just install it, after taking a look at packages.ubuntu.com to get the name of the package that contains it.
[22:08] <Walex> energizer: Linux/UNIX systems deal with filetrees, not partitions
[22:09] <Walex> energizer: you can then filetreed together with symbolic links or 'mount --bind' redirections
[22:09] <Noskcaj> When running "mk-sbuild saucy" i get the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872370/ What am i doing wrong?
[22:09] <dnf0sq> bekks: how do i get the name of the package which contains that file?
[22:09] <Walex> dnf0sq: 'dpkg -S' or 'apt-file search'
[22:09] <bekks> dnf0sq: Visit the site I just told you, and search for the package that contains that file.
[22:09] <energizer> Walex im trying to start this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[22:09] <irpapabear> o.o
[22:09] <Voi> i want to mount a device on a program startup, how do i do that?
[22:10] <energizer> Walex: is that guide a good idea, or should I disregard the partition advice and just copy the /home folder over
[22:10] <Walex> energizer: it is one of the many terrifyingly bad HOWTOs that tries to do the impossible and give a "follow these steps without understanding them" logic as demanded by most users
[22:11] <Walex> energizer: the steps it recommends are sensible on their own, but obviously they apply exactly only in one specific case.
[22:11] <ABC> hey guys, I just installed ubuntu on my laptop, is there anything I would need to do to stay safe,secure, no viruses, worms, hackers etc? i am almost all the time on hotspots
[22:11] <Walex> energizer: so if you understand well each step and why it is done, you can change it to match your situation.
[22:12] <dnf0sq> the package "gnome-keyring" is already installed, and updated to the newest version. should i reinstall it?
[22:12] <usr13> energizer: What is it you do not uderstand?
[22:12] <Walex> ABC: it is a complex issue, but the number 1 hotspot rule is: always and only 'https' and other encrypted protocols like SSH for connections.
[22:12] <dnf0sq> bekks: the package "gnome-keyring" is already installed, and updated to the newest version. should i reinstall it?
[22:12] <bekks> dnf0sq: if that packages provides the missing file - yes.
[22:13] <usr13> energizer: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit   #Show is the URL so we can see what you have.
[22:13] <Walex> ABC: there are for example Firefox extensions that try to turn every 'http' connection into an 'https' one.
[22:13] <energizer> Walex: so i dont think i really need to make an HDD partition for /home specifically, as it suggests. Right?
[22:13] <Walex> energizer: no, you don't need to.
[22:14] <Walex> energizer: one can put any filetree in any partition and then use symlinks or 'mount --bind' to sort out paths.
[22:14] <ABC> Walex: So not any software I should get?
[22:14] <usr13> Walex: I don't think he needs a symlink, just a fstab entry that points to where it is.  Right?
[22:14] <Walex> ABC: perphaps a simple firewall like 'ferm'. But then if it is your laptop, are you going to run any services on other than 'lo' device?
[22:15] <dnf0sq> bekks: reinstalled gnome-keyring, however, it hasn't brought the specified file. packages.ubuntu.com doesn't give me any package with that file, but apt-file does
[22:15] <Walex> usr13: depends!
[22:15] <Walex> usr13: if it is easy for him to change '/etc/passwd' home directory paths, he needs neither symlink nor 'fstab' changes.
[22:16] <bekks> dnf0sq: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/libp11-kit-gnome-keyring
[22:16] <Walex> usr13: if he wants to keep home directory paths beginning with '/home' he needs symlinks or 'mount --bind'
[22:16] <bekks> dnf0sq: Thats the package you are missing.
[22:16] <dnf0sq> bekks: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so is the file we need, and /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so is the file gnome-keyring installs
[22:16] <usr13> energizer: pastebinit /etc/fstab  #Show us the URL and we will look at what you have now.
[22:16] <dnf0sq> bekks: so i assume i should cp it?
[22:16] <ABC> Anyone here using some extra software/protection on there ubuntu setup?
[22:16] <Walex> usr13: 'mount --bind' can be configured in 'fstab' by default
[22:17] <bekks> dnf0sq: No.
[22:17] <dnf0sq> bekks: sec, lemme install it
[22:18] <energizer> Walex: usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872393/
[22:18] <dnf0sq> bekks: i don't have the repository with that package, where do i find the repo?
[22:18] <Walex> energizer: that says nothing significant
[22:19] <bekks> dnf0sq: Its an official ubuntu repo.
[22:19] <dnf0sq> bekks: ok, wtf am i missing? http://pastebin.com/xHAHgw9h
[22:20] <energizer> Walex: mk just doing it cause usr13 asked for it
[22:20] <bekks> dnf0sq: Which ubuntu release do you use?
[22:20] <Walex> energizer: IIRC <usr13> asked for the disk partition table, not the filesystem table.
[22:20] <dnf0sq> bekks: 12.04... sources.list: http://pastebin.com/aVSdunF7
[22:21] <Walex> energizer: ah no, he asked for 'fstab' too.
[22:21] <energizer> here's the other one http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872399/
[22:23] <usr13> energizer: So you have a 1TB drive you are not using?
[22:23] <usr13> energizer: df | pastebinit
[22:24] <luis_> hello if i have a console program that requires input how do i run it with the input
[22:24] <bekks> dnf0sq: You have to install the gnome-keyring:i386 package
[22:24] <energizer> usr13: i have storage on Tera
[22:24] <luis_> instead of typing it on runtime
[22:24] <energizer> usr13: Walex: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872410/
[22:24] <aaron_> i am trying to move the notification area in gnome panel but it does not work
[22:25] <dnf0sq> bekks: already have it
[22:25] <dnf0sq> bekks: no, wait
[22:26] <dnf0sq> bekks: http://pastebin.com/41hJn2Gh
[22:26] <aaron_> done it needed to use a seperator
[22:26] <aaron_> lol
[22:26] <Walex> energizer: you have 2/3 of 'sdb' not used yet... Do you really need to move all of 'home' outside 'sdb'?
[22:26] <fulcan> I finally found something that might indicate why I am hanging up at boot http://bpaste.net/show/pCCA27PL3xFXKeLXnJnS/
[22:26] <bekks> dnf0sq: You have to install the named dependencies, too.
[22:26] <Walex> fulcan: very good guess
[22:27] <usr13> energizer: What exactly do you want to do?
[22:28] <energizer> usr13: Walex I got a notification that my SSD had ~300MB remaining. Does that seem to be wrong? Or are these measuring different things?
[22:29] <usr13> energizer:  ls /home/   #What is there now?  (Show us.)
[22:29] <Walex> energizer: perhaps it has 300MB which are not partitioned, but '/' has 64% of its space, or around 70GB, unused.
[22:30] <Walex> energizer: check with 'df -h /home/.'
[22:31] <dnf0sq> bekks: aptitude cannot install the package, it doesn't offer a solution of any kind for gnome-keyring:i386
[22:31] <energizer> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[22:31] <energizer> /dev/sdb2       110G   38G   67G  36% /
[22:31] <Walex> energizer: reads pretty clear...
[22:31] <bekks> dnf0sq: you should not use aptitude, but apt-get.
[22:31] <usr13> Walex: He gave us that:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872410/
[22:32] <dnf0sq> bekks: told you what apt-get returns
[22:32] <Walex> usr13: yes, but that file is obviously less readable and conceivably '/home/.' could have been somewhere else
[22:32] <bekks> dnf0sq: And that does not mean you should use aptitude.
[22:32] <usr13> Walex: Where could it have been?
[22:32] <bekks> dnf0sq: I told you the solution.
[22:32] <dnf0sq> bekks: to install dependencies?
[22:33] <bekks> dnf0sq: Correct.
[22:33] <Walex> usr13: instead 'df -h', of just '/home', and ensuring it is that by using '/home/.'
[22:33] <usr13> Walex: (you say his fstab file.)
[22:33] <energizer> because / includes /media/Tera, is the 36% including Tera's available space?
[22:33] <bekks> energizer: No.
[22:33] <dnf0sq> bekks: so i should "apt-get install libgcr-3-1:i386" ?
[22:33] <bekks> dnf0sq: Yes.
[22:33] <energizer> bekks elaborate plz?
[22:33] <Walex> usr13: perhaps he had already symlinked '/home' or mounted '/home' somewhere else, e.g. '/boot', or who-knows.
[22:34] <bekks> energizer: you asked a yes/no question - and got the answer. Every filesystem is shown on its own.
[22:34] <dnf0sq> bekks: alright, ran it: E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
[22:34] <dnf0sq> .
[22:34] <usr13> energizer:  ls /home/   #What is there now?  (Show us.)
[22:34] <bekks> dnf0sq: Then carefully read the message and fix the problem.
[22:34] <dnf0sq> bekks: should i run "apt-get -f install" ?
[22:34] <bekks> dnf0sq: No.
[22:34] <aaron_> does anybody know how can edit these options when i right click? http://slavsan.deviantart.com/art/conky-black-transparency-187271049?offset=10#comments
[22:35] <energizer> thanks bekks
[22:35] <dnf0sq> bekks: so... what do i do?
[22:35] <bekks> dnf0sq: I just told you.
[22:35] <omnomnOMINOUS> i'm installing ubuntu 13.04 on a laptop that already has windows 8 on it. if i do the partitioning myself, do i need to create a swap partition and a boot partition? or will i be okay just creating / (root) and /home partitions?
[22:35] <dnf0sq> bekks: install dependencies?
[22:35] <energizer> usr13 my stuff is in there
[22:35] <dnf0sq> bekks: oh, sry, didn't see
[22:35] <usr13> energizer:  ls /home/   #What is there now?  (Show us.)
[22:36] <rypervenche> omnomnOMINOUS: You will want a swap partition, you can leave / only or you can create a separate /home if you really want. It all depends on you.
[22:36] <omnomnOMINOUS> rypervenche: cool. will i also need a boot partition?
[22:37] <rypervenche> omnomnOMINOUS: Again, that's up to you. It might be a good idea, but it is not necessary if you keep backups of your /boot directory. All depends on how you plan on using your system.
[22:37] <Walex> note that swap partitions are no longer necessary: the Linux kernel since 5-10 years ago does a thing that means that well built swap files are as fast as swap partitions
[22:37] <platzhirsch> There are processes which I would like to bring down with killall, but I get no process found, I have to specify it with the PID. Is there a way to get the process name? It seems not to be the one displayed by ps -ef
[22:37] <energizer> usr13 its a folder with my name, and  within that there is bin      Documents  Dropbox  Music     Public      Videos
[22:37] <energizer> Desktop  Downloads  Geeking  Pictures  Ubuntu One
[22:37] <energizer> I can show you but its just the username folder
[22:37] <Walex> energizer: then perhaps 'du -sh /home/.' might also help
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> Walex, Not exactly true, needed for hibernation.
[22:37] <usr13> energizer:  ls /home/   #What is there now?  (Show us.)
[22:38] <energizer> usr13 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872447/
[22:38] <Walex> energizer: but basically you have 67GiB liberi, plenty for you I guess.
[22:38] <energizer> sudo du -sh /home/.
[22:38] <energizer> 20G	/home/.
[22:39] <dnf0sq> bekks: each dependency leads to another which in the end leads to "libgck-3-common:i386" which doesn't exist on google
[22:39] <bekks> dnf0sq: It does not need to exist on google. It exists in the repos.
[22:39] <dnf0sq> bekks: doesn't exist in my repos
[22:40] <dnf0sq> bekks: exists here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/i386/libgcr-3-common
[22:40] <usr13> energizer: sudo blkid | pastebinit
[22:40] <omnomnOMINOUS> thanks for the advice, rypervenche and Walex! i'll give this a shot now =)
[22:40] <bekks> dnf0sq: isnt that a repo?
[22:40] <energizer> usr13 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872464/
[22:41] <dnf0sq> bekks: apparently.. isn't that official ubuntu?
[22:41] <usr13> energizer: Is sda a sata drive?
[22:41] <bekks> dnf0sq: It isnt - but thats because of you, using PPA, most likely.
[22:42] <energizer> usr13 both are sata
[22:42] <Watertower> Which distro should I use if I want to get into enterprise linux computing?
[22:43] <bekks> Watertower: Are you into linux at all?
[22:43] <Watertower> bekks: I've dabbled, mostly just end user stuff
[22:44] <usr13> energizer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872447/  does not appear to be a complete output of  ls /home/
[22:44] <bekks> Watertower: Then you should spend some time in getting more comfortable with Linux at all, first.
[22:45] <usr13> energizer:  What is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872447/ ?
[22:45] <energizer> usr13 ls /home
[22:45] <nnyk_> Watertower: www.distrowatch.org ...
[22:45] <Watertower> thanks!
[22:46] <Guest94620> I'm running Ubuntu as my primary OS and need windows for 1 thing, so I've decided to try and install it (dual boot). I have a new mobo with UEFI. My drive is already partitioned like so /dev/sda1 /boot/efi (fat32) flaged as boot,  /dev/sda2 is swap, /dev/sda3 is OS /dev/sda4 is /home Then /dev/sda5 I as hoping would be Windows. I go to install it and it gives me that error about can't install because it's a GPT partition or some
[22:46] <Guest94620>  bs, what's exactly going on here.
[22:46] <dnf0sq> bekks: how do i add this repository? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/i386/libgcr-3-common/3.2.2-2ubuntu4
[22:46] <usr13> energizer: Ok.
[22:46] <energizer> usr13 http://imgur.com/19ci5AO
[22:46] <bekks> Watertower: distrowatch is totally worthless. It just shows how often some link was clicked on the distrowatch site. Nothing else. Everyone else laughs about that site, honestly.
[22:47] <nnyk_> bekks: lol
[22:48] <nnyk_> used it a couple of times in the past...
[22:48] <bekks> nnyk_: That was no joke.
[22:49] <nnyk_> bekks: thought it'd help at least give some distros to look at...
[22:49] <usr13> energizer: What is /media/adam/Tera ?  What do you have stored there?
[22:49] <bekks> nnyk_: There are only two enterprise linux out there: RHEL and SLES.
[22:50] <nnyk_> bekks: okay...that is news to me.
[22:50] <energizer> usr13 mainly media
[22:50] <usr13> energizer: videos?  mp3s?
[22:51] <energizer> usr13: both
[22:51] <usr13> energizer: ls /media/adam |pastebinit   #Show us.
[22:52] <energizer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872491/
[22:52] <occ> i had windows on a ultrabook and the wifi worked well, since i installed ubuntu, the wifi works but disconnects every 5 minutes and takes a while to reconnect. will finding a better driver fix it?
[22:52] <energizer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872494/
[22:53] <energizer> the second one is ls /media/adam/Tera
[22:55] <Guest86015> Guest86015 d
[22:59] <Daelm> has anybody heard of a method to get the 'tap to click' to work on the logitech t650 trackpads
[23:00] <Daelm> second, semi-related question, does anybody know if the 'tap to click' and all works well with the apple magic trackpad?
[23:01] <Guest50671> hola alguien me puede ayudar
[23:01] <iharp> I'm using 13.04. My browser severly hesitates before transmitting data. However, when running a speed test, my up and down speeds are exactly where they are supposed to be. Any thoughts?
[23:01] <iharp> I can post my specs if need be
[23:01] <Guest50671> ubuntu no me reconoce lector de memoria intagrado en sony vaio
[23:01] <Daelm> does it freeze up or just spin for a while?
[23:01] <Guest50671> alguine sabe
[23:02] <Daelm> maybe try a different dns server if it's the later
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> !es > Guest50671
[23:05] <Jordan_U> !es | Guest50671
[23:07] <marco> hello
[23:09] <Guest78941> I have been reading a lot but I couldnt find a solution for my problem I can load the server ltsp but when i try to load from another pc just get the wall paper not the programs ??? I used the default config in edubuntu 12.04
[23:10] <Guest78941> is it a common error?
[23:10] <usr13> Here is my recommendation for energizer:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872527/  #Constructive criticism welcome.
[23:11] <Guest78941> When i log in from the same pc i works ok but from anothe zru cable i cant
[23:12] <Guest78941> in internet nobody  says a similar problem
[23:12] <energizer> usr13 alright ill give it a shot. thanks for your help
[23:13] <usr13> energizer: Just a minute.
[23:13] <Guest78941> does any1 hava had a similar problem?
[23:13] <usr13> I think that moving Tera to /media/ may not be the best idea.
[23:14] <usr13> energizer: It should probably be in /home/adam
[23:14] <usr13> energizer: But I do not know if you have a conflicting directory there.  Maybe do this:
[23:15] <usr13> energizer: Step 3.5:  mv /media/Tera /media/adam/Media   (As along is /media/adam/Media does not already exist.)
[23:16] <quasar> hey guys!
[23:16] <quasar> can you suggest me something to change unity with=
[23:16] <quasar> ?
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> quasar, unity-tweak and compiz which is there already.
[23:17] <David-A> quasar: you mean replace unity with other desktop ui, or customize unity?
[23:17] <quasar> no, I mean replace it
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> quasar, Other desktops are a command line away, what do you want?
[23:18] <niargh> 12.04.2 - Persistent Update Manager error - see http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872546/
[23:18] <quasar> I dont know, gnome
[23:18] <quasar> ?
[23:18] <quasar> just want to ask which desktop environment is beeter?
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> quasar, The gnome 2like fallback or the gnome-shell?
[23:18] <David-A> quasar: there is a standard alternative called "classic" something in ubuntu, but there are other desktop ui's you can install from the software center, e.g. xfce
[23:19] <export> quasar do you want something lightweight? or would you rather a lot of eyecandy?
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> fallback is it's name partner, in a country western voice
[23:19] <usr13> energizer: I got the fstab entry wrong.
[23:19] <quasar> something more productive than unity
[23:19] <quasar> because right now Im not very happy with it
[23:20] <Guest78941> nobody answer???
[23:20] <quasar> I cant do stuff fast
[23:20] <export> well you can always change it :) quasar it just depends on what your personal preference is
[23:20] <quasar> I´ll try xfce someone said it
[23:21] <quasar> thanks
[23:21] <Guest78941> where can i find help for edubuntu???
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> quasar, that and lxde is even lighter are good.
[23:21] <mdel> hey all - i have my bluetooth headset paired and ready to go, but I'm unable to get the proper sound settings to use
[23:21] <niargh> Why am I getting this error: W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release amd64 (20130213)/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[23:21] <David-A> quasar: the most common alternatives to unity in ubuntu are "fallback"-something (as it may be called), KDE, and Xfce.
[23:22] <usr13> energizer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872555/
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> niargh, That from a update?
[23:22] <export> niargh looks like you have a cdrom repo in your sources.list
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> yep
[23:22] <samertm> hey
[23:22] <quasar> ok, thanks :)
[23:22] <niargh> wilee-nilee, export: ah, how can I remove it?
[23:22] <samertm> so i'm signed into skype, but I closed skype's window and I don't know how to get it back
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> niargh,  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  put a # in front if the notation.
[23:23] <energizer> Thanks for all your help usr3
[23:23] <export> yeah what he said^ XD
[23:23] <niargh> wilee-nilee: thanks!
[23:23] <energizer> usr 13
[23:23] <samertm> and opening up skype again opens up a new window, and when I try to sign in it tells me it's already running
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> niargh, No problem then run sudo apt-get update to get it set.
[23:24] <niargh> will do thx!
[23:24] <samertm> how can I open skype if it's running in the background?
[23:24] <export> and it looks like you could uncomment it and then put in the install disk you used to install ubuntu and you could use that as a source if its mounted niargh
[23:25] <niargh> export: got it. thanks
[23:25] <export> no prob XD
[23:27] <occ> i had windows on my ultrabook and wifi was good, but since installing ubuntu the wifi disconnects every minute..... will downloading the windows driver and using ndiswrapper fix the problem?
[23:29] <occ> and if i did that, would i have to remove the driver ubuntu uses for it first? because the wifi is detected so a driver is obviously already assigned
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> occ, run lspci and find the card and post it for the channel.
[23:31] <export> hey wilee-nilee, you think the windows driver or the proprietary driver(if any) would be better?
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> export, Context?
[23:32] <export> occ's question
[23:32] <occ> i think its a Qualcomm Atheros AR5BMD222, im double checking now
[23:33] <goddard> how do i configure openvpn?
[23:33] <occ> i might get disconnected. when my laptop tries to connect and disconnects, my router dosnt like it and disconnects my pc from wifi too
[23:34] <occ> ok the wifi card is: atheros ar9462
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> export, I would'nt really know, however the channel needs details on the hardware, proprietary can been seen attached to stuff from the ubuntu repo, but in general I see it as from the manufacturer...etc. Use depends on the variables of whats best, and is the user willing to deal with it if say it doe not follow udates...etc.
[23:36] <rypervenche> occ: sudo lspci -nn | grep Network
[23:37] <goddard> my network icon isn't in my top panel
[23:37] <goddard> how can i start it?
[23:37] <occ> ryper that returns: atheros communications inc. ar9462 wireless network adapter [168c:0034] (rev 01)
[23:38] <occ> and "02:00.0 Network controller [02:80]" just before that
[23:39] <aaron__> i am trying to add items with right click in nautilus but it does not work
[23:39] <rypervenche> occ: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2133296&page=3
[23:40] <rypervenche> occ: Take a look at that entire thread. I think they basically have you update your wireless driver using compat-wireless.
[23:40] <occ> ok ill look. thanks
[23:40] <mouseguy> hello
[23:42] <rsvpdroid> hi
[23:42] <sein> I'm using Linux mint, but i installed unity (cry) and it won't show up on the session selection on gdm, the lm help channel was useless
[23:42] <ceil> why on earth would you install unity?
[23:42] <mouseguy> I've just downloaded ubuntu 13.04 and was looking to make the switch from win7 but I'm facing an issue with my Saphira mouse, whilst the pointer works none of the buttons do (including left/right click). Google provided only one forum entry with someone facing a similar issue and the problem was isolated down to the way kernel 3.3+ treats usb devic
[23:42] <mouseguy> es. How do I go about making my mouse work?
[23:42] <sein> ceil: just curious
[23:43] <ceil> meh. good luck with it. i immediately install gnome-shell on a fresh install of ubuntu :p
[23:43] <mouseguy> apparently the mouse works fine in kernel 3.2 but not above
[23:45] <occ> so is this where i compile the compat-wireless driver from? http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable
[23:45] <mouseguy> more info about it here (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=156923) i'm not a dev or anything so I don't really know how to easily fix this mouse issue :(
[23:46] <occ> i dont understand all this kernel and backports stuff
[23:47] <occ> am i likley to have more luck if i just buy a wifi usb stick
[23:47] <aaron_> i have installed pastebin in nautilus but it does not show with the right click..
[23:47] <mouseguy> was hoping someone who has had similar issues with non-standard mice not registering buttons would weigh in
[23:47] <shankstaBytes> how can i reinstall my network manager applet ?
[23:47] <shankstaBytes> its missing
[23:47] <shankstaBytes> anyone?
[23:48] <Daughain> mouseguy, Whats the issue?
[23:48] <mouseguy> pointer works, none of the buttons do (including left/right)
[23:48] <mouseguy> more info about it here from someone who had the same problem (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=156923) i'm not a dev or anything so I don't really know how to easily fix this mouse issue :(
[23:48] <aaron_> shankstaBytes, from where is missing?
[23:49] <mouseguy> apparently it has to do with the way kernel 3.3 registers usb devices
[23:49] <mouseguy> mouse works fine under kernel 3.2
[23:49] <mouseguy> according to the forum
[23:49] <Daughain> Oh, I dont use usb mice......Sorry.
[23:49] <mouseguy> aw shucks
[23:49] <mouseguy> thanks anyway
[23:50] <Casey> Daughain: PS/2?
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> shankstaBytes, Did you remove the app?
[23:50] <Daughain> Casey, wifi
[23:50] <Casey> Daughain: trackin
[23:50] <shankstaBytes> wilee-nilee: i must have some how
[23:51] <mouseguy> Daughain: is it a microsoft one?
[23:51] <shankstaBytes> wilee-nilee: i dont remember where or how i did that
[23:51] <aaron_> shankstaBytes, do you have notification area in the panel ?
[23:51] <shankstaBytes> aaron_: the top right where the network applet normally sits
[23:51] <shankstaBytes> no
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> shankstaBytes, might be off try this first. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1559987
[23:51] <shankstaBytes> thats the applet right?
[23:51] <shankstaBytes> the program in the settings is still there
[23:51] <aaron_> shankstaBytes, try to add it
[23:52] <shankstaBytes> no process found wilee-nilee
[23:52] <shankstaBytes> aaron_: is it network-manager-gnome?
[23:53] <aaron_> shankstaBytes, yes
[23:53] <FiremanE2> ‎firemaned2
[23:54] <studious> what is ubottu?
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> shankstaBytes, here is some info if needed to get it back, if you have no Ethernet. http://askubuntu.com/questions/55805/how-do-i-re-install-network-manager-without-an-internet-connection
[23:54] <studious> as mentioned in the channel title
[23:54] <SonikkuAmerica> !ubottu | studious
[23:54] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, as i understand he says that he can't see the icon in the taskbar
[23:55] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, no that the network is completely gone
[23:55] <shankstaBytes> aaron_: we are back in business
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, Yes, but testing if it there at all does not show it if hew rans the commands corectly.
[23:55] <shankstaBytes> wilee-nilee: thanks i didn't have the package
[23:55] <shankstaBytes> wilee-nilee: i must of removed it when testing KDE stuff
[23:55] <aaron_> shankstaBytes, wilee-nilee ;:O
[23:56] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, nice
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, It happened to me once, lol.
[23:57] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, i've got a question i am using nautilus action configuration tool,i added a program  but when i right click nothing apperas
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> shankstaBytes, It happens, used to be a real pain to get it fixed.
[23:57] <dnf0sq> Need help! ssh -X localhost -> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, Not sure really, I have limited skills, I only know what I have had to do and some other stuff like grub, and what I have retained from luking the IRC and ubuntu forums.
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> I'm an armchair fan, my actual studies are not really related
[23:59] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, look at this http://slavsan.deviantart.com/art/conky-black-transparency-187271049
[23:59] <dnf0sq> Need help! ssh -X localhost -> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[23:59] <aaron_> wilee-nilee, ya beauty :D