[16:22] I'm running precise 12.04.2 amd64 with upstart 1.5-0ubuntu7.2 and I'm having trouble debugging the upstart scripts I'm writing. [16:22] http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook indicates that I should be able to set upstart to log-priority debug [16:23] But after doing that I don't see any init trace in /var/log/syslog or any other file I can find. [16:24] I've tried setting it with both `sudo initctl log-priority debug` and by adding --debug to the kernel's boot options, using either method I've verified that it worked by running `sudo initctl log-priority` and seeing it's set to "debug". [16:59] cpick: $ dmesg [17:00] cpick: grep init /var/log/kern.log [17:00] cpick: is upstart logging visible in one of the above two places? [17:01] Yeah, nothing out of init in /var/log/kern.log eithier. [17:01] No [17:01] I lied [17:01] sorry [17:01] dmesg does include init: trace [17:01] Excellent, thank you. [17:02] I thought upstart was supposed to switch from the kernel buffer to syslog as soon as syslog was up? [17:03] cpick: good point. let me file a bug, to check up on it. [18:43] It turned out the root cause of the problem I was trying to debug was: https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/568288 [18:44] A frustrating waste of time. === erkules_ is now known as erkules [20:28] cpick: right, sad. I'm confused why that patch was not taken into upstart.