[16:34] <amjjawad> pleia2: Hi, you there?
[17:12] <GridCube> knome, do you have the icon for deviantART so i can update it?
[17:13] <GridCube> lderan, you said you could help, want me to send you an invitation to join as administrator?
[17:13] <lderan> sure :)
[17:14] <GridCube> whats your dA username?
[17:14] <lderan> lderan
[17:15] <GridCube> sounds appropriated 
[17:16] <GridCube> :) hi amerigena 
[17:16] <amerigena> howdy
[17:16] <amerigena> so what's going on with the screenshot gallery?
[17:17] <GridCube> :) i've resent you the intivation to be an admin on deviant art
[17:18] <GridCube> can you please log in and accept the invitation
[17:18] <GridCube> lderan, you too
[17:18] <amerigena> OK.
[17:18] <amerigena> One minute.
[17:18] <GridCube> and if pleia2 its around her too.
[17:18] <lderan> done
[17:19] <knome> GridCube, i'll finish it at latest tomorrow.
[17:19] <GridCube> 'kay
[17:19] <GridCube> :) great lderan 
[17:20] <amerigena> Done.
[17:21] <GridCube> :D great
[17:21] <GridCube> ok so now you will see that if i submit an image to my gallery and propose it for xubuntu-showcase you will recieve a message in dA
[17:23] <amerigena> Cool.
[17:23] <knome> amjjawad, what's up?
[17:23] <amjjawad> knome: Hey :)
[17:24] <amjjawad> I'm fine what about you
[17:25] <knome> i'm fine. did you have a question for pleia2? just go ahead and ask, and she'll answer when she gets back, or others can answer before that
[17:25] <GridCube> ok i've sent the image, it should be in your message boards amerigena, lderan 
[17:26] <amerigena> Yep. Just saw it.
[17:26] <lderan> test submit to xubunutu-showcase please disregard
[17:26] <amjjawad> knome: not really, just a follow up on my email that I thought to discuss over there 
[17:26] <amjjawad> knome: but that is okay, I got the point now, thanks :)
[17:27] <GridCube> yes, you will see it needs 3 votes to pass to the xubuntu-showcase gallery
[17:27] <amerigena> So basically all we have to do is keep an eye on our DA accounts and look for submitted content?
[17:27] <amerigena> Got it.
[17:27] <GridCube> yes, but do please open the image and try to find under wich licence it was submitted
[17:28] <lderan> sure thing
[17:28] <amerigena> OK.
[17:28] <GridCube> you will see it at the bottom
[17:28] <GridCube> its under cc v3
[17:29] <GridCube> so it means the submitter chosed that licence, if thats not there it shouldnt be accepted, per the rules we stated previously
[17:29] <GridCube> now accept the submition
[17:30] <GridCube> submission
[17:30] <lderan> done
[17:31] <GridCube> amerigena, :) please if you accept now it will automatically send the image to our galleries
[17:33] <GridCube> notice that i sent the submission directly to featured, we can change that to proposed, and make submission to featured unavailable, and then move manually the ones we find particularly good to the featured gallery, we can also organize the images in folders by month and year and stuffs like that
[17:33] <GridCube> once amerigena accepts it ill show you how to move them around in the galleries
[17:36] <amerigena> Trying. Where do I accept? I'm looking.
[17:37] <GridCube> amerigena, :) in your message are, at the side, there is an orange house with the #xubuntu-showcase words alongside it
[17:37] <GridCube> clic on it to see all the messages from xubuntu-showcase, tehre you should see the accept button
[17:38] <amerigena> OK. Got it. Looking in the wrong area. Accepted.
[17:40] <GridCube> :) excellent
[17:41] <GridCube> now if you go to the top you will see your deviantart name has a down arrow near it, if you hover it you will see the groups you are joined
[17:41] <GridCube> click in xubuntu-showcase
[17:41] <GridCube> you will go to http://xubuntu-showcase.deviantart.com/
[17:41] <GridCube> now clic on the gallery tab
[17:43] <amerigena> Seen.
[17:44] <GridCube> ok so if you hover an image you should see a pencil icon poping out
[17:44] <amerigena> Edit?
[17:45] <amjjawad> knome: I'm sorry by the way if I'm asking too much but things in Xubuntu is completely different than Lubuntu and I need to get used to it :)
[17:45] <GridCube> if you clic that pencil you will see a few options, please move my submission to the folder named 2013 - July
[17:45] <knome> amjjawad, no problem
[17:45] <GridCube> amerigena, i would guess its edit, yes
[17:45] <amjjawad> knome: thanks a lot :)
[17:46] <knome> amjjawad, that's one of the reasons why "experienced" users aren't given any different treatment than totally new contributors though
[17:46] <amjjawad> knome: yes, I'm starting to figure that out :)
[17:46] <Unit193> And that's the thing to keep in mind, Lubuntu and Xubuntu have the same core, but they aren't the same.
[17:47] <amjjawad> we used to do the opposite on Lubuntu. Anyone, can join and called official member 
[17:47] <amjjawad> Unit193: yes, from the emails that I'm reading so far, I came to find out they are totally different when it comes to the way each community runs itself :)
[17:48] <amjjawad> This will increase my experiences and skills. I like that :)
[17:49] <GridCube> knome, :) i've made this user http://xubmits.deviantart.com/
[17:49] <knome> GridCube, have you checked what the deviantart terms say about shared accounts?
[17:50] <knome> GridCube, i would think those are forbidden, since with those you can spam and abuse the system
[17:50] <amerigena> Done.
[17:50] <GridCube> not really, they where pretty much used a whole lot before the groups where invented
[17:50] <knome> GridCube, and remember, we don't *have* to get all the submissions through dA
[17:51] <GridCube> no no, thats the idea, the submissions not on dA can be uploaded there so we have them centered on one place we can easily manage
[17:52] <GridCube> ok perfect amerigena :) 
[17:52] <GridCube> lderan, can you move the submission to proposed?
[17:52] <GridCube> amerigena, if you see in the xubuntu-showcase page you can go to the about-us page and add some information about you :3
[17:53] <knome> GridCube, i would say those can be uploaded to dA by users who have dA accounts
[17:53] <lderan> done :D
[17:53] <knome> the TOS doesn't explicitly say that's forbidden, but i'm sure they'd tell you you can't do it if you asked
[17:53] <GridCube> knome, :) yes, but if we get some trhough email or twitter, we can hub them to the group
[17:54] <GridCube> knome, not really
[17:54] <knome> GridCube, don't we have multiple moderators with dA accounts to do that?
[17:54] <knome> i'm failing to see why we need an additional account
[17:55] <knome> the moderators are committed to working with dA and moderating the images because they are on dA and care about it
[17:55] <knome> others aren't, so why should they take extra effort to upload things there?
[17:55] <GridCube> knome, well yes
[17:56] <GridCube> P: didnt though of that
[17:56] <GridCube> you are right
[17:57] <GridCube> i will leave it there just in case
[17:57] <knome> re: upload to featured/proposed, feel free to do whatever makes sense in dA
[17:57] <knome> though you might want to use the featured gallery to pick things you want to send to the website gallery next
[17:58] <GridCube> it should go first to proposed and then moved to featured the exceptional ones
[17:58] <GridCube> yes that
[17:58] <GridCube> will make so proposed its the only one that people can send 
[17:58] <knome> oki
[17:59] <knome> and thanks for going through the submission/moderation stuff with other moderators
[17:59] <amerigena> GridCube : done
[18:00] <GridCube> lderan, :) you can add something too to the about us tab
[18:00] <GridCube> amerigena, now you can delete the submission from the folders?
[18:00] <GridCube> if you do that i think all the stuffs we need to know to manage the page will be covered
[18:02] <GridCube> ok :) now its food time
[18:02] <GridCube> see you later if you have any more questions
[18:02] <lderan> okay :)
[18:02] <knome> bon appetit
[18:02] <jjfrv8> knome, I pushed a 12.04  docs revision to my branch last night but had trouble with permissions. I mentioned that in the comments.
[18:02] <knome> ok, i'll look at that
[18:03] <knome> did you do a merge request or just pushed?
[18:03] <jjfrv8> I did a merge request after I revised the push
[18:04] <knome> okay
[18:04] <jjfrv8> it wouldn't let me push it to ...xubuntu-docs/precise, I had to send it to ...xubuntu-docs that then specify "other" in the merge request target.
[18:04] <amerigena> GridCube : thought that I'd moved it to July 2013. It was back in Proposed. I removed it.
[18:05] <knome> jjfrv8, weird one. maybe you just need to have a different branch name than "precise"
[18:05] <amerigena> Adios. Will keep an eye on the DA gallery.
[18:05] <amerigena> Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.
[18:05] <knome> jjfrv8, or actually... maybe you should have pushed to lp:~jjfrv8/xubuntu-
[18:05] <knome> err...
[18:05] <knome> jjfrv8, lp:~jjfrv8/xubuntu-docs/precise/branchname
[18:06] <jjfrv8> That's what I did.
[18:06] <knome> didn't you say you tried to push to .../precise ?
[18:06] <jjfrv8> Well, I omitted the last part, I did append my branchname
[18:07] <knome> oki
[18:07] <knome> then that's just weird.
[18:07] <knome> i can look at that later today
[18:07] <jjfrv8> Thanks.
[18:08] <knome> also the merge proposal
[18:08] <jjfrv8> I think the merge proposal went to the right place but let me know if not.
[18:09] <knome> it looks like that, sure
[18:31] <ochosi> micahg: reminder: gtk-theme-config > debian! :)
[19:26] <knome> pleia2, you around?
[19:27] <knome> or anyone with debian packaging skills ;)
[19:29] <Unit193> "Skills" I don't have, but what's up?
[19:29] <knome> 12.04 docs SRU
[19:29] <knome> re: changelog
[19:30] <knome> what's the correct way to add the SRU version into changelog?
[19:36] <knome> eg. does the SRU version need to be bigger than any other released version?
[19:37] <knome> in our case, stupidly 13.10-precise0.12.04.3 or sth
[19:37] <knome> or does it just need to be bigger than what the current release in precise is?
[19:37] <knome> in that case, 12.04.3
[19:38] <Unit193> Bah, really?  Oh well.  Typcially they do 13.10really12.04.3 or something like that.
[19:38] <knome> i mean anyway, does it have to be bigger than anything that's been released in between
[19:39] <knome> or not
[19:39] <knome> eg. just bigger than what's released in 12.04
[19:39] <Unit193> Just bigger than the last version in 12.04.
[19:39] <knome> you sure?
[19:40] <knome> if that's true, should i go and poke the changelog and insert a release in between the ones that are there currently?
[19:40] <knome> (we don't seem to have *any* release that starts with 12.04...)
[19:40] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs
[19:41] <knome> yup, it says 11.10.0 ;)
[19:42] <Unit193> It was copied forward, not even changed for the title was it?
[19:42] <knome> i've no idea.
[19:42] <knome> probably not...
[19:42] <knome> well done us!
[19:43] <knome>      
[19:43] <knome> Changelog
[19:43] <knome> xubuntu-docs (11.10.0) oneiric; urgency=low
[19:43] <knome>   * desktop-guide/libs/global.ent, startpage/xubuntu-index.html: updated
[19:43] <knome>     for oneiric.
[19:43] <knome>  -- Lionel Le Folgoc <mrpouit@ubuntu.com>   Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:55:11 +0200
[19:43] <knome> yep!
[19:43] <knome> copied from oneiric which was copied from natty
[19:43] <knome> yay
[21:00] <Unit193> Does it make sense to anyone else to map Ctrl+Esc xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu rather than the slower xfdesktop --menu ?
[21:02] <knome> probably, but since i'm not using that myself...
[21:02] <Unit193> I remap it myself.
[21:03] <knome> then file a bug and send a patch or sth.
[21:03] <knome> :)
[21:03] <Unit193> (Yes, I know that I may not be normal user.) Well, I was more asking for feedback, I could easily do a patch, and fairly easily do a merge.
[21:05] <knome> actually, there's a possible bug related to this
[21:06] <knome> in settings manager -> desktop -> tab menus, uncheck "show applications menu..." and neither of the commands pop up a menu
[21:07] <Unit193> xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu is still good mapped to Ctrl+Esc with that.
[21:27] <knome> how is it good if that setting makes the shortcut not work?
[21:31] <Unit193> If you disable that setting, my keybind still works, not sure about default.
[21:31] <Unit193> Default does as well, but of course you can't bring up the application menu.
[21:32] <knome> but xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu odesn't work for me if i disable that...
[21:32] <knome> so wouldn't that mean it wouldn't work with the keybind either? ;)
[21:32] <Unit193> Works for me™
[21:33] <knome> that's known to have regressions :P
[21:33] <Unit193> Are you on Raring?
[21:33] <knome> ~$ lsb_release -a
[21:34] <knome> Description:	Ubuntu 13.04