[01:50] <CyberZooL> Hello fluburburbburb test
[01:50] <CyberZooL> k
[01:52] <SonikkuAmerica> And flufublullubfufub to you too. How can we help you?
[01:52] <CyberZooL> haha
[01:52] <CyberZooL> i'm not in my place here I think   :-)
[01:52] <CyberZooL> But I love Kubuntu
[01:53] <SonikkuAmerica> CyberZooL: Well you (sort of) came to the right place. We do our flublfulufblufb'ing in #kubuntu-offtopic , and our support here.
[01:55] <CyberZooL> Yeah... ok... I am testing Quassel out of curiosity and because I was told it's possible to find mp3 around here... but I understand I have to connect to another server
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> CyberZooL: Yyyyyyyyyyyeah. (See !list)
[01:57] <CyberZooL> Anyone who work or give support to Kubuntu have my gratitude  :-)
[01:57] <CyberZooL> kudos to you all
[01:57] <SonikkuAmerica> !volunteer
[01:57] <SonikkuAmerica> !volunteers
[01:57] <CyberZooL> kudos to volonteers
[01:58] <SonikkuAmerica> That's what we are (especially since Canonical disowned us)
[02:00] <CyberZooL> Yeah I know a bit about that... I mean about MIR and more ( I don't quite remember... one of the maintainer lost is job and blue something pickup )
[02:01] <CyberZooL> I wonder what will happen in the future
[02:04] <SonikkuAmerica> CyberZooL: Actually, we and Ubuntu GNOME are headed for Wayland, and Lubuntu is staying with X. Xubuntu has yet to make a decision.
[02:04] <SonikkuAmerica> CyberZooL: (And, of course, Ubuntu and Edubuntu will have the Mir stack)
[02:07] <CyberZooL> My gut feeling is that Wayland is the right choice.... beacause it is more community oriented.  But I'm no programmer.
[02:08] <CyberZooL> Same thing for QT.... I think it is better but I can't explain it..... weird
[02:08] <Unit193> (They didn't disown, they mearly stopped having a paid dev, so it's the same as all the flavors now....)
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> CyberZooL: The Ubuntu GNOME people had the easiest decision to make, being the only Ubuntu flavor not dependent on lightdm
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Unit193: Well, yeah, that's more along the lines of it
[02:10] <Unit193> Also, I don't think this is support related anymore, and I see #kubuntu-offtopic calling. ;)
[02:11] <CyberZooL> oh sorry.. I'm not really saavy about the irc net etiquette and all... sorry for the off topic stuff
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> CyberZooL: It's not too high on support traffic, but yeah, we are kind of heading !ot with this
[02:17] <CyberZooL> Ok Bye bye and thanks for the chatting maybe one day I'll return if I have a major problem or I'll join offtopic to do some small talk about the state of Kubuntu
[02:18] <CyberZooL> and more
[02:18] <SonikkuAmerica> :) Have a good one!
[03:46] <glitchd> hello all
[03:48] <glitchd> uhh...hello?
[04:01] <wc_> nn
[05:16] <F41L> Ok, I've got a kubuntu 32bit install USB. I've put elilo ia32 bootloader into \EFI\BOOT, made a configuration to point at \casper\vlinuz and \casper\initrd.lz. When attempting to boot from the drive, it now appears to detect ELILO, but just gets to a black screen now, no prompt, nothing. Better than it acting like the USB drive didn't exist, but still not working. I have an IA32 intel atom with <c>
[05:16] <F41L> EFI-only BIOS. <e>
[06:33] <oya2> bonjour
[07:41] <hyper_ch> hi there, I can't set my clock to update with ntp servers and timezones are completely off
[08:09] <floown> hello
[08:10] <floown> I can not ping my NAS and access to my shared folder with NFS, someone has an idea?
[08:10] <ikonia> floown: icmp is blocked
[08:11] <ikonia> it's that simple
[08:12] <floown> ikonia: what is icmp ?
[08:12] <ikonia> part of the TCP stack
[08:12] <ikonia> it's not something you neeed to worry about
[08:12] <floown> how can I fix my problem ?
[08:13] <ikonia> it's not a problem
[08:13] <ikonia> not being able to ping does not cause any problems
[08:13] <ikonia> as you said your self you are still sharing things and it's working fine - ping is not part of that
[09:08] <stack3457> how can I upgrade akonadi and kdepimlibs from 4.10 version to 4.11 ?.I am using kubuntu 12.04
[09:25] <stack3457> how can I upgrade 4.10 kde version to 4.10 in kubuntu 12.04??
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:28] <n0yd> hey BluesKaj
[11:29] <BluesKaj> hi n0yd
[11:29] <n0yd> Hows it going?
[11:30] <BluesKaj> god , and you ?
[11:30] <BluesKaj> err good :)
[11:31]  * BluesKaj drinks more coffee to wake up
[11:31] <n0yd> not too bad.
[11:31] <n0yd> Im still up, ffs
[11:31] <n0yd> :(
[11:32] <BluesKaj> working on something ?
[11:33] <n0yd> Not especially. Just ended up getting caught up with things
[11:33] <n0yd> Its sunday, no biggie
[11:34] <n0yd> As long as my son doesnt start bugging me for attention if I decide to take a nap later
[11:35] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[11:36] <BluesKaj> hi lordievader
[11:36] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj, how are you?
[11:36] <BluesKaj> fine , and you?
[11:37] <lordievader> Doing good too :)
[11:37] <n0yd> I am regretting not going to sleep now though, I am yawning :(
[11:40] <BluesKaj> tried the liquorix kernel and reload ...seems quite fast , speeds up webpage loading some
[11:40] <n0yd> nice :)
[11:40] <BluesKaj> or preload i guess it's called
[11:40] <n0yd> yup
[11:40] <n0yd> How much ram do you have?
[11:41] <BluesKaj> just 3G
[11:41] <n0yd> oh ok, nvm then. I was gonna suggest some other minor tweaks I did, but I wouldnt do it with that much memory
[11:41] <BluesKaj> this is a 5yr old HP desktop
[11:41] <n0yd> im not sure how old mine is, about the same
[11:41] <n0yd> Core2Duo
[11:41] <BluesKaj> yup
[11:42] <n0yd> But I upgraded it to 8GB ddr3
[11:42] <BluesKaj> ok
[11:42] <n0yd> So I run a lot of /tmp and apt stuff out of ram
[11:43] <BluesKaj> this is a basic HT media server ..mainly for movies , music , pictures , etc
[11:44] <n0yd> gotcha
[11:46] <n0yd> Well, now my son is up, and my gf. Gonna go spend some time with them
[11:47] <BluesKaj> with a entry level nvidia 8400GS and m-audio cards
[11:47] <n0yd> i dont even have a nvidia card
[11:47] <n0yd> intel :-/
[11:53] <BluesKaj> ok , brb ...
[12:23] <BluesKaj> !soundkonverter
[12:23] <BluesKaj> !info soundkonverter
[12:45] <darkshadow> aw
[12:46] <darkshadow> hello there
[12:47] <darkshadow> shaan7
[12:47] <Shaan7> ?
[12:47] <darkshadow> ??
[12:47] <darkshadow> who r u??
[12:48] <lordievader> Hey darkshadow
[12:48] <darkshadow> yes i  am here
[12:49] <lordievader> darkshadow: We can see that ;)
[12:49] <darkshadow> ok,i understand
[12:50] <darkshadow> lordiever where r u frm?
[12:51] <lordievader> darkshadow: Stick around long enough and you'll find out ;)
[12:51] <darkshadow> not have that much time lordiever
[13:45] <jalcine> huge problem, I just upgraded to sausy and 'grub-efi' refuses to install
[13:45] <jalcine> I haven't restarted yet out of fear I wouldn't be able to boot into my system
[13:47] <Roey> hi
[13:47] <Roey> why is my time set to UTC, and how can I change it back to EDT?
[13:48] <Roey> I see with "date" that it is set to UTC.
[13:51] <BluesKaj> Roey, what OS are you on ? I see you crossposting in #ubuntu as well, the clock GUIs on unity amd kde are different
[13:51] <Roey> Kubuntu.
[13:52] <Roey> I ended up running "sudo dpkg reconfigure tzdata".
[13:52] <jalcine> huge problem, I just upgraded to sausy and 'grub-efi' refuses to install
[13:52] <jalcine> I'm getting this error when attempting to configure "grub-efi-amd64":
[13:52] <Roey> And that set it back to EDT.
[13:52] <jalcine> Undefined subroutine &conffile::abs_path called at /usr/bin/ucfq line 529, <HASH> line 21.
[13:52] <Roey> BluesKaj:  heya
[13:52] <Roey> and that seems to have fixed it.
[13:52] <BluesKaj> right click on the clock in the panel , set date and time to edt
[13:52] <Roey> the problem began when I set (using the KDE adjust time& date control) to update auotmatically via NTP.
[13:52] <Roey> yeah I had that set.
[13:53] <BluesKaj> don't use that auto set
[13:53] <Roey> even before I selected [x] Set time and date automatically, I had it set to EDT.
[13:53] <Roey> why not?
[13:53] <BluesKaj> it's unreliable
[13:53] <Roey> ah
[13:53] <Roey> well what can I do then to keep the system updated?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> jalcine, ask in ubuntu+1
[13:54] <jalcine> Thanks BluesKaj
[13:56] <BluesKaj> Roey, if you leave auto unchecked then the clock will get it's time setting from the PC clock setting you chose when you installed the OS , as long as EDT and the internal pc claock are the same time
[13:56] <Roey> ahhhhh
[13:57] <Roey> ok so that's why reconfiguring tzdata helped.
[13:57] <BluesKaj> yes, I believe so
[13:59] <Roey> alright
[13:59] <Roey> BluesKaj:  thank you so much for illuminating this
[13:59] <BluesKaj> the internet time servers are becoming unreliable, but I don't know why
[14:02] <Roey> so maybe that update reset from EDT to UTC time zone?  Didn't know that ntp servers could do that.
[14:02] <jalcine> that option or the servers themselves?
[14:02] <Roey> (i.e. report a new time zone)
[14:02] <jalcine> I'm using ntp to manage my time
[14:04] <BluesKaj> no if the time server goes down (disconnects) then the clock defaults to UTC for some reason '
[14:05] <BluesKaj> that's why i don't bother witht auto time servers
[14:08] <BluesKaj> my clock has been correct for many months since I unchecked the automatic setting
[14:13] <vinzphoto> ciao
[14:15] <jalcine> window merge
[14:16] <jalcine> jb #ubuntu-1
[14:16] <jalcine> oi
[14:26] <BluesKaj> !lucid
[14:29] <macwolf74> !natty
[15:18] <chachan> anyone in here using ubuntuone?
[15:18] <chachan> is it worth?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> chachan, I tried it but dropped it , prefer Dropbox
[15:23] <chachan> BluesKaj, I'm using Drive currently because I almost use everything with Google, but they don't have native client which sucks, so I'm looking for options...
[15:23] <chachan> BluesKaj, was the ubuntuone + KDE integration a great feature?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> no chachan , it's ok , I just don't need it
[15:26] <chachan> got it
[15:30] <moray33_> is there a way to suggest applications or configurations included by default in Kubuntu?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> moray33_, do you want to suggest apps for kubuntu to be included in the the next releases ?
[15:38] <moray33_> BluisKaj, well, a couple, and some packages I think it would very handy to have by defalut, especially for newbies
[15:39] <BluesKaj> moray33_, for example ?
[15:39] <moray33_> are you a Kubuntu mantainer of you're just curious?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> if you want o suggest packages then #kubuntu-devel would be a good place to suggest , moray33_
[15:41] <moray33_> @BluisKaj ok, thanks!
[15:42] <moray33_> do you want to know anyways?
[15:42] <BluesKaj> sure
[15:46] <moray33_> icedtea-plugin, p7zip-full, kdeplasma-addons, unrar-free, sweeper, kde-config-grub2. Also, it would be nice kdegraphics-thumbnailers, kffmpegthumbnailer, kde-thumbnailer-openoffice and having those previous enabled in Dolphin. Last, but not least, having the  UFW KControl Module at least available in the repositories...
[15:46] <moray33_> having double click in dolphin, and the Kubuntu icon the app launcher (I know this is not important lol)
[17:32] <RedEyedRoundEye> is anyone able to help with a login screen issue? should be simple
[17:32] <RedEyedRoundEye> my issue is that despite selecting images in the LightDM settings app, my login screen displays no account pic or background image. Just a white screen and default icon for user pic
[17:32] <RedEyedRoundEye> The resources are in ~/Pictures.... could an encrypted home directory be the issue?
[19:37] <Muffie> hello all. I have a system with 2 ssds (sda & sdb), and a regular sata drive (sdc). I'm trying to install kubuntu on it, using the regular installation tool. I manually created partitions on SDC, but the installation fails with a "fatal error" saying that installation of grub on sdA! failed. I'm really glad it failed. There's no way to specify where to install grub? I want it @ sdc, and I choose the boot disk through BIOS...
[19:37] <Muffie> i "really" hope it doesn't screw up my sda boot...
[19:38] <Muffie> it's running chameleon on sda...
[19:39] <Muffie> hello all, back.
[19:39] <Muffie> hello all. I have a system with 2 ssds (sda & sdb), and a regular sata drive (sdc). I'm trying to install kubuntu on it, using the regular installation tool. I manually created partitions on SDC, but the installation fails with a "fatal error" saying that installation of grub on sdA! failed. I'm really glad it failed. There's no way to specify where to install grub? I want it @ sdc, and I choose the boot disk through BIOS...
[19:39] <thelionroars> hi
[19:39] <thelionroars> Chameleon doesn't use Grub2?
[19:40] <Muffie> no. it's a replacement as far as I know. But I'm choosing the OS from BIOS. Just need each disk to have it's own.
[19:41] <Muffie> but the real point is, I was installing to sdc, WHY the installer tried to install grub on sda?
[19:41] <thelionroars> not sure
[19:41] <thelionroars> but everything else with the install worked?
[19:42] <BluesKaj> Muffie, is windows installed on /dev/sda ?
[19:42] <Muffie> don't know. said fatal crash and quit the installer
[19:42] <Muffie> BluesKaj: OSX on sda, Windows 8 on sdb
[19:42] <Muffie> AHCI motherboard used to choose bootable disk
[19:43] <Muffie> ops
[19:43] <Muffie> EFI
[19:43] <Muffie> I'm lost on those
[19:43] <BluesKaj> and sdc is your boot disk in the bios ?
[19:43] <Muffie> no...
[19:43] <thelionroars> oh, chameleon is osx? lol, sorry, thought it was a linux distro
[19:43] <Muffie> :)
[19:43] <Muffie> chameleon is the grub for osx86 (as far as I know)
[19:43] <Muffie> BluesKaj: do I need to temporary set it to boot?
[19:43] <Muffie> there's really not a way to tell the installer
[19:43] <Muffie> where I want it?
[19:44] <thelionroars> I would try checking your kubuntu install from a live cd - mount it, check everything is there
[19:44] <Muffie> Im already on the live-usb
[19:44] <Muffie> the fatal error
[19:44] <thelionroars> if everything else is ok, getting grub to work from the live install should be easy
[19:44] <Muffie> happened some minutes ago
[19:44] <Muffie> how can I check it?
[19:44] <Muffie> let me find a terminal somewhere
[19:44] <thelionroars> mount sdc
[19:44] <BluesKaj> Muffie, yes, if that's where you want grub , afterwards you 'll have to sudo update-grub if you can boot either to a TTY or the kubuntu desktop
[19:45] <thelionroars> sorry
[19:45] <thelionroars> mount your partition on sdc*
[19:45] <Muffie> ok, mounting
[19:45] <Muffie> 1 sec
[19:46] <Muffie> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
[19:46] <Muffie> /dev/sdc1 2048 60000255 29999104 83 Linux
[19:46] <Muffie> /dev/sdc2 60000256 67999743 3999744 82 Linux swap / Solaris
[19:46] <Muffie> partitions are there...
[19:46] <Muffie> let me mount sdc1
[19:46] <FloodBotK1> Muffie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:46] <thelionroars> yah
[19:46] <Muffie> ops, sorry
[19:46] <thelionroars> no soup for you!
[19:47] <BluesKaj> yes , you can run sudo grub-install /dev/sdc
[19:47] <thelionroars> ^what BluesKaj said, should work
[19:48] <Muffie> well, ok, I mounted. this is there: 0 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    32 Jul 14 16:31 initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-19-generic
[19:48] <Muffie> ok, let me sudo grub
[19:49] <kubuntu_> am I back?
[19:49] <Muffie> ok
[19:49] <Muffie> Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[19:50] <Muffie> gee. why it's complaining. let me deal with that later
[19:51] <Muffie> BluesKaj: thelionroars?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> Muffie, errors ?
[19:51] <Muffie> how grub knows if something would be readable on boot?
[19:52] <Muffie> BluesKaj: Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[19:52] <thelionroars> what filesystem did you use?
[19:52] <Muffie> ext4
[19:52] <thelionroars> hmm I'm not sure why its not working then
[19:53] <BluesKaj> Muffie, probly because it wants to install to the dev that's first drive in the boot sequence other than cdrom
[19:53] <thelionroars> if the drive is specified though...
[19:54] <Muffie2> thelionroars: I think GRUB, somehow, sees in bios that sdc is not in the boot sequence. then, prevents the installation
[19:54] <Muffie2> it's really a stupid feature
[19:54] <thelionroars> do you have a separate /boot? you don't right
[19:55] <BluesKaj> not really because grub will find the other OSs and add them to the grubmenu , but that has to be done from the kubuntu OS
[19:55] <thelionroars> I wouldn't give their connection to a monkey on a rock...
[20:10] <Muffie> well, I disabled both ssds on bios
[20:10] <Muffie> now, the regular sata is sda
[20:11] <Muffie> its trying to install now
[20:11] <Muffie> what I know for sure is, the irc connection is really unstable! :)
[20:13] <thelionroars> that was noticeable on this end too
[20:13] <thelionroars> that's one way of avoiding issues, hopefully that should work
[20:14] <Muffie> yep. let's see...
[20:14] <Muffie> anyway, thank you a lot for the help
[20:14] <Muffie> will be really nice to have a triple boot system again! :)
[20:15] <BluesKaj> Muffie, I have a similar setup , so I'll be around for while longer
[20:15] <BluesKaj> no ssds but 3 hdds
[20:15] <Muffie> great!! what do you use to manage the boot?
[20:16] <Muffie> chameleon cant handle win8 boot anymore
[20:16] <Muffie> but I think its due to my mobo
[20:16] <Muffie> I'm new with ssds. I went to us, so, I bought this new "kit": mb, proc, memory and ssds
[20:17] <BluesKaj> efi ?
[20:17] <Muffie> I mean, do you use grub to select which os to boot?
[20:17] <BluesKaj> yes
[20:17] <Muffie> even osx?
[20:18] <BluesKaj> don't have osx
[20:18] <Muffie> ah, what do you have?
[20:18] <BluesKaj> 2 kubuntus 13.04 , 13.10 and W7
[20:18] <BluesKaj> W7 is on it's own HDD
[20:19] <Muffie> yep. still quite useful.
[20:19] <Muffie> I decided to give win8 a try
[20:19] <Muffie> so far, nothing to complain
[20:19] <Muffie> it's win7 with some bells and whistles
[20:20] <BluesKaj> grub works fine installed on the windows drive mbr which was designated as sda , so i used that
[20:21] <Muffie> and what about Kubuntu... I see that everyone is complaining about the new "trend" of user interface
[20:21] <Muffie> specially gnome3
[20:21] <Muffie> that's the main reason I decided to make kubuntu my linux installation now
[20:21] <Muffie> to give it, back, a try
[20:23] <BluesKaj> Muffie,  sorry i don't know what you mean by "new "trend" of user interface"
[20:24] <Muffie> unity
[20:24] <Muffie> win 8
[20:24] <Muffie> full screen for everything
[22:27] <stack_> here Qt.formatTime( dataSource.data["Local"]["Time"],"hh:mm:ss AP" ) how I can display utc or gmt along with time ?