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maslenHi guys; I'm on Ubuntu 13.10 and thought that this VLC/OpenGL bug might be relevant: https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/895202:15
maslenEither the VLC dev is making a false assumption or there is a bug in the openGL code it's referencing.02:15
SonikkuAmericamaslen: From the info provided on the ticket we don't even know if the submitter was using Ubuntu.02:17
maslenI was using ubuntu 13.10; I filed the ticket.02:18
maslenx8602:18
maslen"Tested on Ubuntu 13.10 x86 with the trunk version of VLC with git commit"02:18
maslen(wow, I was tired when I filed that one)02:18
SonikkuAmericamaslen: Oh wow, I'm slow. I never bothered to look @ the introductory text. Slap me now.02:20
* maslen slaps SonikkuAmerica with a slimy politician02:20
SonikkuAmericaOuch. Thank you.02:20
SonikkuAmericamaslen: Has a bug been filed against the vlc package in Launchpad?02:21
maslenSonikkuAmerica: Not AFAIK02:21
SonikkuAmericamaslen: Well, if it happens again, Apport should appear, if it doesn't, run [ ubuntu-bug vlc ] in a terminal.02:22
maslenHmm? That bug was just something I triggered will attempting to build a PoC for (what I'm hoping is) a security vulnerability in VLC.02:23
SonikkuAmericamaslen: Aaaaaaaaaaand what's stopping you from filing the report in Launchpad? I have a hunch that the Ubuntu devs working on the VLC packaging can direct it to the correct place.02:25
maslenSonikkuAmerica: Laziness - I'm not going to fight to get a crash fixed. One bug report if sufficient on my end. I'm willing to hand it off - that's why I mentioned it here.02:30
SonikkuAmericaBelieve me, we don't fight. We just get things done :) Besides, we need to reproduce stuff.02:30
sm0xhey guys, is in the actual daily-build of saucy "Mir" already included ?07:45
bazhangthere's a PPA for that iirc07:47
sm0xbazhang: thx07:49
BluesKajHiyas all11:23
penguin42hmm, muon software/updater seems to be hanging for me after doing updates - it just sits there 'Loading software list...'11:46
penguin42reported as kde bug 32234012:10
ubottuKDE bug 322340 in updater "Muon hang after successfully downloading/installing updates" [Crash,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32234012:11
jalcineHey everyone, got a problem with grub-efi-amd64=2.00-15ubuntu113:54
jalcineI'm attempting to use apport to push a bug report now13:55
jalcinehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/120111214:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1201112 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "64-bit GRUB refuses to Install" [Undecided,New]14:04
penguin42jalcine: You say an error occurs - what error?14:07
jalcineWell, I'm getting a configuration error, `dpkg --configure grub-efi-amd64` fails each and every time.14:07
jalcinehttp://paste.kde.org/pb9b7db8a/14:08
penguin42right but you say something about ust line 52914:08
jalcineah, yes, line 529 within /usr/bin/uct seems to be hit every time14:09
penguin42so how did you find that ?14:09
jalcineit explicitly stated that in the console, but after uninstalling (*cringe*) and then reinstalling 'grub-common', the error message went away, but it kept failing.14:10
penguin42do you have the exact error that uct said?14:10
jalcineHow would I get more output from `dpkg --configure`?14:10
penguin42it's tricky - that says it's the post installation script - so I'd try running it manually14:11
jalcineerror from /usr/bin/ucfq: "Undefined subroutine &conffile::abs_path called at /usr/bin/ucfq line 529, <HASH> line 2114:12
jalcineI spelled the file's name wrong, sorry.14:12
penguin42ahha - ok, add that detail to the bug14:12
penguin42also say what you did to try and install saucy - is this an upgrade? How? Did you have any ppas installed? Anything else odd?14:14
jalcineupdated14:17
jalcineis it okay if I gzipped my /etc/apt/source.list.d to a tar.gz for the bug reports?14:17
jalcineit's nothing big14:17
penguin42you could do if it was small and you thought it would help (not sure if it would for this)14:18
penguin42jalcine: you said 'I fixed it' - how?14:18
jalcineupdated with how I did.14:19
jalcineI just forced it to call the method in question: `Cwd::abs_path`14:19
jalcinebut it didn't change anything, so I undid it.14:20
penguin42ok, I'll leave that to the grub guys to figure out14:20
jalcinethanks!14:21
penguin42thanks for adding the info14:21
jalcineglad I could help!14:22
jalcineI'm looking at the postinst script right now, I'd have to manually run this script, you said?14:27
jalcineAH! man, how would I get in touch with the grub team?14:31
penguin42jalcine: Well, there is the maintainer address shown on the pacakge, but if you know what's wrong then add it to the bug and I can set the bug to triaged14:31
jalcineI have an idea of it, I'm updating the bug now.14:39
jalcineYup, I think I fixed it14:48
jalcineit's one number that always get us.14:48
jalcineI'll continue adding to the bug.14:48
jalcineI'd send a patch if I knew how.14:48
jalcinehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1201112/comments/414:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1201112 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "64-bit GRUB refuses to Install" [Undecided,New]14:49
jalcinethat's my results14:49
jalcineI wish that Launchpad had some kind of markup for the comments.14:50
penguin42jalcine: so it sounds like you've got two things there, one is ucf that needs to put a cwd:: in, and the other the cut field14:51
jalcineyup14:51
jalcineman, I haven't fretted this hard in a while, I was scared I wouldn't be able to boot!14:51
penguin42jalcine: Can you include your /etc/default/grub14:51
jalcinesure14:51
penguin42it sounds like perhaps it's a little odd - I doubt this failed for everyone14:51
penguin42jalcine: In my ucfq I have the line    use Cwd qw{abs_path};    at line 504 - why doesn't that work for you?14:53
jalcineI don't have that there.14:53
penguin42which version of the ucfq package do you have?14:54
jalcineMy last-mod date for this file (in the file itself is) Fri Apr 14 19:30:45 2006 with an update count of 8114:54
penguin42sorry, ucf package14:54
penguin42jalcine: What does dpkg -l ucf   say ?14:54
jalcine3.002714:55
penguin42hmm I have 3.0027+nmu114:55
jalcinehttp://paste.kde.org/pfc50b292/14:56
penguin42ah, I see - the +nmu1 variety is in saucy-proposed14:57
jalcineso something got missed! happens to the best of us!14:57
jalcinelooks like I might have to add that sourcelist14:58
penguin42no, I think it's just that it was fixed recently but not made it into the main release yet14:58
jalcineah, so I can wait then14:59
penguin42ok, so attach your /etc/default/grub14:59
jalcineattached15:00
jalcineyup, that debbug definitely is it.15:01
penguin42jalcine: I don't think the change of the 2 to 1 is needed - that's expecting a package name15:02
jalcineWell, I wouldn't say it's the solution, but it's what got it working here locally.15:02
jalcinea hack, if you may.15:02
penguin42what does    ucfq --with-colons /etc/default/grub | cut -d : -f 2  say to you?15:02
jalcinecompletely empty15:03
penguin42huh15:03
penguin42ok, what about   ucfq --with-colons /etc/default/gru15:03
jalcine/etc/default/grub:grub-efi-amd64:Yes:Yes15:03
jalcinebut it didn't show that before15:03
penguin42ok, that's fine - so why doesn't the cut work?15:03
jalcineI'm not sure.15:04
penguin42jalcine: Can you try   echo   red:green:blue | cut -d : -f 215:04
jalcinegreen15:05
jalcineah. I think I understand now.15:05
jalcinemakes sense with the old output15:05
penguin42good, so lets try that    ucfq --with-colons /etc/default/grub | cut -d : -f 2     again ?15:05
jalcineIt was "/etc/default/grub::Yes" originally15:05
jalcinegrub-efi-amd64 outputs now15:05
penguin42any idea what changed it?15:06
jalcineit looks like my GRUB config was faulty before but after running the postinst + 'update-grub', it corrected the value.15:06
jalcineI'm going to say it was 'update-grub'15:06
penguin42I don't think so, I mean ucf seems to get it's stuff from /var/lib/ucf/registry - not sure what put it in there15:08
jalcineprobably not useful: but my /var/lib/ucf/registry >> http://paste.kde.org/p537092c7/15:09
penguin42yeh mine has grub-pc - but I wonder when it is added15:09
jalcinethere's only one way I could think of testing this: via qemu + 13.04 to 13.10a115:10
penguin42yeh15:10
penguin42jalcine: I don't know the ucf stuff but I think it's only trying to read the package name just to test if it needs to change the ucf data15:15
jalcinethat looks like the flow, yeah15:16
jalcineactually, to determine what to do within the postinst script15:16
jalcinebeing that there's a HUGE block for grub-pc and then a small on for grub-efi-{i386,amd64}15:16
penguin42jalcine: grub-pc has had another 10+ years of weird stuff found it has to deal with15:17
jalcineindeedy15:19
Kowjust going to throw this one out there: anyone had issues with ubuntu 13.10 not booting within the last week or so due to networkmanager? I am using virtualbox.16:49
FernandoMiguelKow: wfm17:03
FernandoMiguelstrange your stops17:03
FernandoMiguel  Installed: 0.9.8.0-0ubuntu1617:03
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Noize__Is mir stable enough to use at its current state?21:25
holsteinno21:25
Noize__What isn't working currently?21:28
holsteinNoize__: if you are looking for "stable", you dont want the development release, or MIR21:29
holstein!mir21:29
ubottuMir is the next-generation display server currently under development by Canonical and Ubuntu. It's slated for inclusion in Ubuntu 14.04. For more information on it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec . For code, see https://launchpad.net/mir21:29
Noize__Is the development release in 13.10?21:30
holsteinNoize__: 13.10 *is* the development release21:30
Noize__Thought u mentioned mir dev release21:31
holsteinNoize__: theres a PPA if you want to help test or whatever21:31
holsteinNoize__: MIR is not release yet, so there is only develpment release of that AFAIK21:31
Noize__I usually stay ahead a stable release,  I just wanna know if 13.10 is usable in a basic sense21:32
holsteinNoize__: no21:32
holsteinNoize__: you should not use the development release of *anything* if you are wanting stability21:33
holsteinNoize__: even if its "fine" now, it can break, anytime21:33
Noize__Lol I don't mind if it breaks, always looking to help...21:34
holsteinNoize__: OK.. enjoy then. i thought you were asking if it will break21:35
jo-erlendis the software center broken, or is it just me?23:10
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hachreits broken ya23:27
roastedhello friends23:54
roastedI understand 13.10 is getting mir (or has mir?) would it be in a daily image?23:54
FernandoMiguelroasted: nope. not yet23:56
FernandoMiguelyou can add it via ppa23:56
FernandoMiguelbut X is broken there23:56
roastedFernandoMiguel: ah I'll be patient. Whenever Mir lands in 13.10, is that something that would require a new daily build install? I wonder if it'll simply come down in the regular update system...23:59
FernandoMiguelupgrades should just be fine23:59
FernandoMiguelmy system is from 12.10 +123:59

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