[02:41] <mfisch> We don't need LP bugs to merge new versions do we? Or is thee a policy
[02:45] <Noskcaj> mfisch, i think it's if it's a different person doing it.
[02:45] <mfisch> Noskcaj: different from the maintainer?
[02:52] <Noskcaj> yeah
[02:52] <Noskcaj> the ubuntu maintainer
[02:53] <mfisch> and if the maintainer is just "Ubuntu developers" I think it's fair game without a bug
[02:55] <Noskcaj> I'd agree
[02:55] <Noskcaj> hello Logan_
[02:56] <Logan_> Hi Jackson.
[02:57] <mfisch> Thanks Noskcaj
[02:57] <Noskcaj> I've merged the latest version of backuppc from debian. what do i need to attach to the bug other than the new tarball
[02:57] <Noskcaj> no problem mfisch
[02:58] <Noskcaj> bug 1201029
[03:17] <Logan_> Noskcaj: Did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging?
[03:24] <Noskcaj> Yeah, the debdiff link is broken and the only page on the wiki is outdated
[03:25] <micahg> mfisch: the bugs serve 2 purposes, to allow sponsors to gain sponsorship and to notify someone that you're working on the merge, if you're the TIL person, a bug shouldn't be needed
[03:26] <mfisch> micahg: sorry, TIL? I can only think of the reddit meaning
[03:27] <micahg> touched it last
[03:27] <Logan_> TIL that TIL means "touched it last" in Ubuntu. :P
[03:27]  * Logan_ waves to Micah.
[03:27] <mfisch> Logan_: perfect
[03:28] <mfisch> TIL in this case is seb
[03:28] <mfisch> but it's been out of sync since mid-June, so I don't think seb is going to work on it
[03:29] <micahg> mfisch: it's still good to ask unless it's marked on merges.ubuntu.com as free to take
[03:30] <Logan_> micahg: Hey, do you know the situation with charybdis?
[03:30] <Logan_> 3.4.2-1 has been in unstable for 12 days, and $ syncpackage --force charybdis returns:
[03:30] <mfisch> micahg: okay, I'll ping seb
[03:30] <Logan_> syncpackage: Error: Debian version 3.4.2-1 has not been picked up by LP yet. Please try again later.
[03:31] <micahg> https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/charybdis
[03:31] <Logan_> It's not there. :(
[03:31] <micahg> Logan_: file a request on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[03:32] <micahg> or ask in #launchpad
[03:32] <Logan_> Doing.
[03:35] <mfisch> micahg: are ubuntu branches in lp updated directly after a dput or is manual work required with bzr (I assume automatic)?
[03:35] <Logan_> The former.
[03:35] <mfisch> right
[03:35] <micahg> with a slight time delay
[03:36] <Logan_> You can push to Bazaar as well, but it really doesn't do much.
[03:36] <Logan_> The package importer does all of the commits for you.
[03:36] <mfisch> in my last upload, upstream was bzr
[03:36] <mfisch> so I pushed there and dput but did not push to the source package branch in lp
[03:36] <micahg> mfisch: check here for importer issues: http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/
[03:37] <micahg> bugs go here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/udd/+filebug
[03:41] <Logan_> And they will never be looked at.
[03:41]  * Logan_ hides.
[03:41] <mfisch> I looked at one once
[03:41] <mfisch> for a package merge I was interested in, I could not make any sense of it
[09:19] <obounaim> Hi everybody
[15:52] <Logan_> How does one go about joining ~ubuntu-sponsors?
[15:59] <iulian> Logan_: Ask the admins to add you.
[16:00] <Logan_> kees: Are you around?
[20:19] <TheLordOfTime> i assume it's impossible to get a "new" package that didn't exist previously into 13.04 directly while skipping over currentDevelRelease?
[20:50] <iulian> TheLordOfTime: Right.
[21:07] <TheLordOfTime> iulian:  that's what I thought
[21:07] <TheLordOfTime> iulian:  any way to figure out why something doesn't show in the archives, then?>
[21:07] <TheLordOfTime> (in the off chance it was removed how do i figure that one out)
[21:22] <jbicha> TheLordOfTime: if it was in Ubuntu, it would have a page like https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-express and you can click the top right link to see its publishing history
[21:23] <Logan_> Every single package is failing at UDD...
[21:23]  * Logan_ sighs.
[21:23] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha:  yeah i'm curious because one person is reporting their installer calling for `finish-install` and it's missing, so...
[21:24] <TheLordOfTime> (in raring)
[21:25] <TheLordOfTime> or rather "when they're installing with jigdo"
[21:26] <Logan_> Hey Jeremy. :)