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cjohnstonknome: its there01:38
knomecjohnston, awesome!01:40
knomecjohnston, i don't know if other flavors have been using the work items tracker as much as we have done, but you might want to poke them as well01:41
cjohnstonI'm looking right now, the only one I see with a topic is studio01:41
knomei'm pretty sure they want their topic up01:42
knomezequence, ping01:42
cjohnstonI fixed it01:48
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zequencecjohnston: thanks11:40
zequenceknome: pong11:40
ScottKUbuntu Package Importer (~package-import) expired from ubuntu-core-dev (on 2013-07-11) <-- I don't imagine that's a good thing.18:23
Laneyhttp://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/ebook-tools.html#2013-07-14 16:12:32.80968818:25
Laneyis it causing that?18:25
Laney& co18:26
* Laney re-adds18:26
LaneyOK, done.18:27
Laneyxnox: ^ could you retry the failures caused by this maybe?18:28
TheLordOfTimeanyone know who produces the file for installing 13.04 with jigdo?  (the file in question: http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ubuntu-13.04-server-i386.jigdo )21:30
infinityWe do...21:33
TheLordOfTimeinfinity:  then you need to revise that21:33
TheLordOfTimeif you don't mind me giving you a specific code change.21:34
infinityOr, hint at the bug/problem you're seeing?21:34
infinityTo be fair, I haven't used jigdo since we stopped producing alternate images, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a bit broken somehow.21:35
TheLordOfTimeinfinity:  line 323: vr9GHh8dalA8qMblfXNdtA=Debian:pool/main/f/finish-install/finish-install_2.42_all.udeb  <-- refers to a file that 404s.  the correct file is finish-install_242ubuntu1_all.udeb21:35
TheLordOfTimehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/320048/missing-package-problem-when-installing-ubuntu-desktop-13-04-with-jigdo/320070#320070  <-- was where it got reported21:36
infinityOh dear.  That's actually a more funamental issue that the server CDs appear not to have been respun after that last-minute change to finish-install.21:37
infinityBut we're not likely to do so now either.21:37
TheLordOfTimeso therefore the CDs are broken and it's an oversight that may or may not have critically broken images?21:37
infinity(The jigdo manifest isn't wrong, the CD has finish-install_2.42_all.udeb on it)21:38
infinityThe CDs aren't broken.21:38
TheLordOfTimeah21:38
TheLordOfTimei see21:38
TheLordOfTimeso the jigdo manifest fails because it can't find a package that was on the CD images and is included on the CD images.21:39
TheLordOfTime... makes sense.21:39
infinityAn unfortunate oops, but we don't tend to respin CDs post-release for non-LTSes, except in extreme cases, and this probably doesn't qualify as extreme.  Removing the jigdo files would probably be the better option.21:39
infinityOr maybe I could re-do the jigdo-file run against the current archive, so the old finish-install lands in the .template blob.21:40
infinityBut given that no one complained for 3 months, I imagine not many people use that download method anymore.21:40
TheLordOfTimeinfinity:  i leave that to you guys, because you know more of the inner workings better than I, and you guys have final say21:41
TheLordOfTimehowever, i did want to report that this has been found as a bug and to do whatever.21:41
* infinity nods.21:41
infinityThanks for the heads-up.21:41
* TheLordOfTime doesn't particularly care since the ISOs still isntall and no pre-fabricated VM images are affected.21:41
TheLordOfTimeinfinity:  yeppers.21:41
infinityI'll do something about it (either delete the jigdo files, or see if I can mangle them) tomorrow.21:41
TheLordOfTimeinfinity:  awesome.  i assume there's no need for a bug report about this since i've already poked you all here?21:42
infinityTheLordOfTime: A bug report to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage wouldn't hurt.21:42
TheLordOfTimewill do, thanks.21:42
cjwatsonShould be mangleable without too much fuss.21:43
infinityMy, that list needs cleaning up.21:43
infinitycjwatson: Yeah, I'm assuming a fresh jigdo-file run would just land the old finish-install in .template, since it's not findable in the archive, right?  If it's smart enough to notice that.21:43
cjwatsonI think so21:44
infinitycjwatson: But I'm not sure how smart it actually is.  If it doesn't compare in anyway way and just assumes everything under /pool/ lives on a mirror, then it would need some hand guidance.21:44
cjwatsonTest in a temporary directory :-)21:44
infinitys/anyway/way/any way/21:44
infinityEr.21:45
cjwatsonI'm pretty sure .template == "all the stuff I couldn't find".21:45
infinityI can't type even when correcting my typos.21:45
infinityEvidence that my "I'll look at this tomorrow" is the way to go.21:45
cjwatsonDo be careful to get the jigdo headers right; if you're generating by hand then they may need hand-editing.21:45
TheLordOfTimeinfinity: bug filed at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/120119721:46
infinitycjwatson: Yeah, it shouldn't be too much fuss to fake it.21:46
ubot2`Ubuntu bug 1201197 in Ubuntu CD Images "Ubuntu Server 13.04 jigdo manifest out of date, errors with 404 Package Not Found" [Undecided,New]21:46
infinityTheLordOfTime: Danke.21:46
TheLordOfTimeyeppers21:46
infinityThe prospect of testing CD downloady things from BlueFin has me positively giddy.21:48
infinitySometimes, it's really easy to make a nerd happy.21:48
TheLordOfTimecjwatson:  infinity:  thanks again!21:49

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