[01:38] <cjohnston> knome: its there
[01:40] <knome> cjohnston, awesome!
[01:41] <knome> cjohnston, i don't know if other flavors have been using the work items tracker as much as we have done, but you might want to poke them as well
[01:41] <cjohnston> I'm looking right now, the only one I see with a topic is studio
[01:42] <knome> i'm pretty sure they want their topic up
[01:42] <knome> zequence, ping
[01:48] <cjohnston> I fixed it
[11:40] <zequence> cjohnston: thanks
[11:40] <zequence> knome: pong
[18:23] <ScottK> Ubuntu Package Importer (~package-import) expired from ubuntu-core-dev (on 2013-07-11) <-- I don't imagine that's a good thing.
[18:25] <Laney> http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/ebook-tools.html#2013-07-14 16:12:32.809688
[18:25] <Laney> is it causing that?
[18:26] <Laney> & co
[18:26]  * Laney re-adds
[18:27] <Laney> OK, done.
[18:28] <Laney> xnox: ^ could you retry the failures caused by this maybe?
[21:30] <TheLordOfTime> anyone know who produces the file for installing 13.04 with jigdo?  (the file in question: http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ubuntu-13.04-server-i386.jigdo )
[21:33] <infinity> We do...
[21:33] <TheLordOfTime> infinity:  then you need to revise that
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> if you don't mind me giving you a specific code change.
[21:34] <infinity> Or, hint at the bug/problem you're seeing?
[21:35] <infinity> To be fair, I haven't used jigdo since we stopped producing alternate images, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a bit broken somehow.
[21:35] <TheLordOfTime> infinity:  line 323: vr9GHh8dalA8qMblfXNdtA=Debian:pool/main/f/finish-install/finish-install_2.42_all.udeb  <-- refers to a file that 404s.  the correct file is finish-install_242ubuntu1_all.udeb
[21:36] <TheLordOfTime> http://askubuntu.com/questions/320048/missing-package-problem-when-installing-ubuntu-desktop-13-04-with-jigdo/320070#320070  <-- was where it got reported
[21:37] <infinity> Oh dear.  That's actually a more funamental issue that the server CDs appear not to have been respun after that last-minute change to finish-install.
[21:37] <infinity> But we're not likely to do so now either.
[21:37] <TheLordOfTime> so therefore the CDs are broken and it's an oversight that may or may not have critically broken images?
[21:38] <infinity> (The jigdo manifest isn't wrong, the CD has finish-install_2.42_all.udeb on it)
[21:38] <infinity> The CDs aren't broken.
[21:38] <TheLordOfTime> ah
[21:38] <TheLordOfTime> i see
[21:39] <TheLordOfTime> so the jigdo manifest fails because it can't find a package that was on the CD images and is included on the CD images.
[21:39] <TheLordOfTime> ... makes sense.
[21:39] <infinity> An unfortunate oops, but we don't tend to respin CDs post-release for non-LTSes, except in extreme cases, and this probably doesn't qualify as extreme.  Removing the jigdo files would probably be the better option.
[21:40] <infinity> Or maybe I could re-do the jigdo-file run against the current archive, so the old finish-install lands in the .template blob.
[21:40] <infinity> But given that no one complained for 3 months, I imagine not many people use that download method anymore.
[21:41] <TheLordOfTime> infinity:  i leave that to you guys, because you know more of the inner workings better than I, and you guys have final say
[21:41] <TheLordOfTime> however, i did want to report that this has been found as a bug and to do whatever.
[21:41]  * infinity nods.
[21:41] <infinity> Thanks for the heads-up.
[21:41]  * TheLordOfTime doesn't particularly care since the ISOs still isntall and no pre-fabricated VM images are affected.
[21:41] <TheLordOfTime> infinity:  yeppers.
[21:41] <infinity> I'll do something about it (either delete the jigdo files, or see if I can mangle them) tomorrow.
[21:42] <TheLordOfTime> infinity:  awesome.  i assume there's no need for a bug report about this since i've already poked you all here?
[21:42] <infinity> TheLordOfTime: A bug report to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage wouldn't hurt.
[21:42] <TheLordOfTime> will do, thanks.
[21:43] <cjwatson> Should be mangleable without too much fuss.
[21:43] <infinity> My, that list needs cleaning up.
[21:43] <infinity> cjwatson: Yeah, I'm assuming a fresh jigdo-file run would just land the old finish-install in .template, since it's not findable in the archive, right?  If it's smart enough to notice that.
[21:44] <cjwatson> I think so
[21:44] <infinity> cjwatson: But I'm not sure how smart it actually is.  If it doesn't compare in anyway way and just assumes everything under /pool/ lives on a mirror, then it would need some hand guidance.
[21:44] <cjwatson> Test in a temporary directory :-)
[21:44] <infinity> s/anyway/way/any way/
[21:45] <infinity> Er.
[21:45] <cjwatson> I'm pretty sure .template == "all the stuff I couldn't find".
[21:45] <infinity> I can't type even when correcting my typos.
[21:45] <infinity> Evidence that my "I'll look at this tomorrow" is the way to go.
[21:45] <cjwatson> Do be careful to get the jigdo headers right; if you're generating by hand then they may need hand-editing.
[21:46] <TheLordOfTime> infinity: bug filed at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1201197
[21:46] <infinity> cjwatson: Yeah, it shouldn't be too much fuss to fake it.
[21:46] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1201197 in Ubuntu CD Images "Ubuntu Server 13.04 jigdo manifest out of date, errors with 404 Package Not Found" [Undecided,New]
[21:46] <infinity> TheLordOfTime: Danke.
[21:46] <TheLordOfTime> yeppers
[21:48] <infinity> The prospect of testing CD downloady things from BlueFin has me positively giddy.
[21:48] <infinity> Sometimes, it's really easy to make a nerd happy.
[21:49] <TheLordOfTime> cjwatson:  infinity:  thanks again!