[06:35] <Kilos> morning geeky peeps
[07:25] <nlsthzn> morning all
[07:42] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[07:42] <nlsthzn> anybody remember the car advert where the lady sais the car is nice and the guy starts raving over the word "nice" ... think it was nissan micra or something ... could be wrong?
[07:42] <Kilos> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:birdie-team/daily
[07:42] <Kilos> thats for the twit peeps
[07:42] <Kilos> nope sorry
[07:49] <Kilos> hi refusenik 
[07:49] <Kilos> hehe
[07:56] <Kilos> wbb
[08:10] <refusenik> hi
[08:10] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[08:10] <refusenik> thanks
[08:11] <Kilos> if you need any linux or ubuntu help feel free to ask
[08:11] <Kilos> this is our official help channel
[08:12] <Kilos> you can also hang here and help others
[08:17] <Kilos> inetpro, we birdie werk op kde ook
[08:22] <refusenik> cool
[08:30] <refusenik> I noticed that there's an IRC meet on Monday
[08:30] <refusenik> there's also a JoziLUG meetup at the same time
[08:31] <Kilos> yip here at 19.30
[08:31] <refusenik> but I'll stick around in this chatroom
[08:31] <Kilos> cool
[08:31] <Kilos> everyone is welcome to our meetings
[08:31] <refusenik> would anyone in ubuntu-za like to give an Ubuntu presentation to a Joburg user group?
[08:32] <Kilos> we have quite a few guys in the jhb area so ask at the meeting if no one answers you today
[08:33] <refusenik> cool
[08:33] <Kilos> or you can ask in our mailing list as well
[08:34] <Kilos> http://bit.ly/MCOujZ
[08:43] <refusenik> cool
[08:43] <refusenik> I signed up for the mailing list
[08:47] <Kilos> ok just mail and ask if anyone is available to give a presentation
[08:55] <Kilos> also anyone can download ubuntu and burn to dvd or use a flash to boot from and install it alongside an existing windows OS
[08:55] <Kilos> or even try it out from the boot media as well
[08:56] <Kilos> and even from live media one can get here and ask for help
[09:05] <Kilos> http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[09:07] <Kilos> nlsthzn, what are you using today or you at work?
[09:09] <nlsthzn> @home on win 8
[09:09] <Kilos> eeek
[09:10] <Kilos> actually they are improving
[09:10] <Kilos> 7 aint bad
[09:11] <nlsthzn> I installed a start button replacement for win 8 and now it is basically the same as win 7 plus some under the hood improvements
[09:14] <Kilos> oh my have they removed the start button?
[09:14] <Kilos> everything worked from there
[09:14] <nlsthzn> you have not seen all the funky tiles?
[09:15] <nlsthzn> the one that has everyone up in arms :p
[09:15] <Kilos> havent seen 8 at all
[09:18] <nlsthzn> ah ok... well it has changed :p same idea as Unity, same interface on desktop/tablet/phone
[09:18] <Kilos> ah
[09:21] <Kilos> you will need to know all of them hey if going for another job
[09:29] <nlsthzn> haha... depends on the job
[09:32] <Kilos> there cant be many out there where no ms is involved
[09:36] <Kilos> isnt
[09:54] <nlsthzn> as long as you can use office applications then you should be good to go
[10:12] <Kilos> office is for clever peeps
[10:18] <Cantide> Kilos, so sorry :p
[10:19] <Cantide> i sometimes open xchat and forget i've opened it -.-
[10:19] <Cantide> hello :)
[10:19] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[10:19] <Kilos> hehe
[10:19] <Cantide> last night i was on a skype chat for 4 hours
[10:19] <Cantide> so i pretty much forgot about irc
[10:19] <Kilos> never forget irc. ubuntu was built on irc
[10:20] <Cantide> :p
[10:20] <Cantide> meeting tomorrow night?
[10:20] <Kilos> and here is where we gonna see how you doing in korea
[10:20] <Cantide> haha
[10:20] <Cantide> true that  :p
[10:20] <Kilos> yip at 19.30
[10:20] <Cantide> cool :)
[10:20] <Cantide> i should be here
[10:20] <Kilos> good
[10:21] <Kilos> hey you going to jhb soon hey
[10:21] <Kilos> you wanna give an ubuntu presentation to a user group
[10:22] <Cantide> o_o
[10:22] <Cantide> w.. whaaaaa?
[10:22] <Kilos> you can practise your lecturing skills
[10:22] <Cantide> hehe
[10:22] <Cantide> i'd have to prepare well for that >.<
[10:23] <Kilos> well if you are interested speak to refusenik 
[10:23] <Cantide> i'll only have 3 days up there
[10:24] <Cantide> so it depends >.<
[10:24] <Cantide> my primary objective is sorting out my documents
[10:24] <Kilos> well it cant take more than an hour methinks
[10:24] <Cantide> :p
[10:24] <Cantide> also, i don't speak Afrikaans :p
[10:24] <Kilos> maybe in the evening when doc places are closed
[10:24] <Cantide> might be a bit out of place in JHB haha
[10:24] <Cantide> ah
[10:25] <Kilos> jhb is english
[10:25] <Kilos> pta is afrikaans
[10:25] <Cantide> :p
[10:25] <Cantide> i'll give it some thought
[10:25] <Kilos> good man
[10:25] <Kilos> hi georgelappies 
[10:26] <georgelappies> hi Kilos, how are you doing today?
[10:26] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[14:21] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[14:39] <inetpro> ahh refusenik is @JoziLUG on twitter?
[14:39] <inetpro> good afternoon Kilos
[14:39] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[14:39] <Kilos> aha
[14:45] <inetpro> Kilos: birdie is not in the repos yet and I see no screenshots so it gets a -1 from me
[14:45] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:46] <Kilos> maaz birdie ++
[14:47] <inetpro> actually I just found it's home page at http://www.ivonunes.net/birdie/ and after seeing the screenshot it still get's a -1
[14:48] <inetpro> written in Gtk
[14:48] <inetpro> Kilos: does it have a counter in the task bar?
[14:49] <Kilos> but it works on unity and kde when nothing else does
[14:49] <Kilos> to count what
[14:49] <inetpro> to tell me the number of unread tweets
[14:50] <Kilos> i dunno i havent looked for all the funny things you do
[14:50] <inetpro> ai!
[14:50] <inetpro> in that case 'm not even bothring to try it
[14:52] <Kilos> sigh
[14:53] <Kilos> they are developing it all the time so maybe your input on suggestions might help them
[14:53] <inetpro> nah
[14:53] <inetpro> it's not a kde app
[14:53] <Kilos> dont always expect everything to just work
[14:53] <Kilos> its a linux app
[14:54] <inetpro> Kilos: there are plenty of them
[14:54] <inetpro> and many are even in the official repos
[14:54] <Kilos> that work with twitter?
[14:55] <Kilos> and show a counter in the task bar?
[14:56] <Kilos> oh and dont even start making excuses, meeting tomorrow night and youve missed to many
[14:56] <Kilos> inetpro, ^^
[14:56] <inetpro> Kilos: hmm... 
[14:56] <Kilos> Maaz, hmm...
[14:56] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[14:58] <Kilos> i see we have 87 followers
[15:01] <inetpro> Kilos: ok maybe not a lot of twitter clients in the repos, we have moved backwards in life
[15:02] <Kilos> rofl
[15:02] <Kilos> i cant find one that works apart from  birdie
[15:02] <inetpro> I remember seeing a number of choices back when I found choqok
[15:03] <Kilos> i dont remember what choqok looked like so dunn what birdie is missing
[15:03] <Kilos> dunno
[15:03] <inetpro> sadly this is what typically happens with open source projects
[15:04] <inetpro> developers are very active until everything works perfectly, so they move on to the next challenge 
[15:05] <Kilos> maybe a few suggestions to the birdie dev guys can help them make a better product
[15:06] <inetpro> Kilos: choqok is not yet completely dead 
[15:06] <inetpro> the developers just need some time to get back on track
[15:06] <Kilos> can it tweet?
[15:06] <inetpro> unfortunately not at this stage
[15:07] <Kilos> so whats the alternative? to go online to twitter?
[15:07] <Kilos> or use birdie of course
[15:08] <inetpro> well I get by with the twitter web interface and partly with tweetdeck on me mobile phone
[15:08] <inetpro> and if I want to waste a bit of time I use the tweetdeck web interface
[15:08] <Kilos> tweetdeck an android app?
[15:09] <inetpro> https://web.tweetdeck.com/
[15:09] <Kilos> ai!
[15:09] <inetpro> Kilos: the tweetdeck android app is slightly broken as well
[15:09] <inetpro> the search function no longer works
[15:09] <Kilos> sigh
[15:10] <Kilos> what do you search for
[15:10] <Kilos> i see birdie has a search button
[15:10] <inetpro> for serious monitoring of tweets nothing beats tweetdeck, at least not what I have seen
[15:11] <Kilos> its a browser that gotta stay online all the time
[15:11] <Kilos> ai!
[15:12] <inetpro> choqok beats everything else for staying up to date on your casual stream
[15:12] <inetpro> that is when it worked
[15:13] <Kilos> haha
[15:15]  * inetpro wonders whether anyone here has tried smuxi
[15:15] <Kilos> ja whatever that is
[15:16] <inetpro> https://www.smuxi.org/ irssi-inspired, flexible, user-friendly and cross-platform IRC client for sophisticated users, targeting the GNOME deskto
[15:16] <Kilos> i see it here somewhere but didnt do what i thought it could so removed
[15:17] <Kilos> im happy with xchat and konversation
[15:18] <inetpro> the difference is that smuxi seems to also support the new twitter api
[15:18] <Kilos> aha
[15:26] <Kilos> inetpro, do you know anyone up here that would like to do the presentation for refusenik 
[15:26] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[15:27] <inetpro> we're not a LUG
[15:28] <Kilos> a ubuntu presentation
[15:28] <Kilos> to pull lug guys to us
[15:28] <inetpro> we don't want to do that
[15:28] <Kilos> like we got Vince-0 and smileyborg
[15:28] <Kilos> oh
[15:29] <inetpro> there's nothing wrong with LUGs
[15:29] <inetpro> and anybody is free to be in a LUG as well as in ubuntu-za
[15:29] <Kilos> Shortly after the release of 0.8.9 Smuxi users reported issues with Twitter.
[15:31] <miles> hmm...
[15:38] <Kilos> you see inetpro ^^
[15:39] <inetpro> Twitter fixes: Twitter made some changes to their API which broke the Twitter support of Smuxi 0.8. This was taken care of and also a few other issues were solved allowing Smuxi 0.8.9 to work smoothly with Twitter again.
[15:40] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:40] <Kilos> havent found how to get twitter in it yet
[15:41] <inetpro> Kilos: what version did you install?
[15:41] <Kilos> the one in 12.04 repos
[15:42] <inetpro> hmm... 
[15:42] <inetpro> latest is 0.8.11
[15:44] <inetpro> not sure whether it's worth trying it
[15:44] <Kilos> i have 0.8.9.2-2
[15:44] <Kilos> its not too bad but then will need to see if sound worksa
[15:44] <Kilos> works
[15:45] <miles> Maaz: hi
[15:45]  * Maaz waves to miles
[15:46] <inetpro> Kilos: how many peeps are present on average in our meetings?
[15:46] <Kilos> lots dont sign in
[15:46] <Kilos> lurkers
[15:47] <Kilos> maybe 10 active or a few more
[15:47] <inetpro> @JoziLUG asking on twitter
[15:48] <Kilos> tell him to come here
[15:49] <Kilos> i havent got twitter going in smuxi yet and looks like no sound alerts
[15:49] <Kilos> sigh
[15:49] <Kilos> but there are always the 30 or more peeps that are here they just lurk though
[15:56] <Kilos> sigh
[15:59] <Kilos> hi Guest2137 
[16:01] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:01] <Kilos> https://www.smuxi.org/page/Download
[16:01] <Kilos> i cant get new smuxi to download
[16:01] <Kilos> what am i missing
[16:03] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry, can't help with that and I would not try an installation like that
[16:04] <inetpro> only install from repositories if you don't want trouble
[16:04] <Kilos> ok
[16:04] <inetpro> unless you know what you are doing
[16:04] <Kilos> i see now its a ppa you gotta add apt
[16:05] <inetpro> even then, untrusted PPAs can break things
[16:05] <Kilos> hehe i have a remastersys dvd
[16:05] <inetpro> and what does that help?
[16:05] <inetpro> s/what/how/
[16:06] <Kilos> i can reinstall and not do it again
[16:06] <inetpro> hmm...
[16:22] <inetpro> miles: and now?
[16:23] <miles> got the new one working
[16:23] <miles> now trying to get twitter to allow it
[16:32] <miles> what a schlep
[16:34] <inetpro> Kilos: it is for sophisticated users after all
[16:34] <inetpro> you seem to be getting there
[16:34] <Kilos> lol
[16:35] <Kilos> it dont wanna accept /pin pin from twitter
[16:35] <Kilos> says unknown command
[16:35] <Kilos> grrr
[16:36] <Kilos> says unknown command close twitter and start again
[16:37] <Kilos> i give up for today
[16:38] <Squirm> evening
[16:39] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[16:39] <Kilos> i wish they'd fix the pidgin twitter api
[16:39] <Kilos> yo Cantide 
[16:39] <Cantide> hello '-'/
[17:47] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[17:47]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[17:47] <Kilos> Maaz, hot
[17:47] <Maaz> Come on Kilos How many peeps do you know that make coffee with cold water twit!
[17:48] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:49] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee please
[17:49] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure
[17:51] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro!
[17:52] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[17:52] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[17:52] <inetpro> Maaz: dankie
[17:52] <Maaz> Groot plesier inetpro my vriend
[17:52]  * inetpro wonders whether any working cli based twitter clients are left since the latest API changes
[18:08] <nuvolari> inetpro: bitlbee seems ok still
[18:08] <nuvolari> hmm, I can't remember how I connected my bitlbee to twitter
[18:09] <inetpro> nuvolari: interesting
[18:10] <inetpro> I remember bitlbee
[18:17] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[18:24] <inetpro> nuvolari: are you actively using bitlbee?
[18:24] <Kilos> haha i can even get it to start
[18:27] <Kilos> and i hate twitter anyway so why im sukkeling i dunno
[18:27] <Kilos> must be old age
[18:28] <Kilos> nuvolari, has forgotten irc is open there
[18:28] <Kilos> more old age
[18:36] <Kilos> have a good day at work tomorrow all of you
[18:36] <Kilos> sleep tight
[19:24] <nuvolari> inetpro: well, it's in my IRC client all the time :P Using it to connect to gtalk accounts as well
[19:31] <nuvolari> ha! :P
[19:31] <nuvolari> inetpro: http://www.bitlbee.org/img/comic_3.0.png 
[21:09] <Squirm> bed time me thinkss