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bazhang!repeat | dnf0sq00:00
ubottudnf0sq: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/00:00
wilee-nileeaaron_, Yeah, I have a degree in black studies it has a depth of meaning for me.00:00
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styles_I installed Windows 8 AFTER Ubuntu. I have a boot partition. After the windows 8 install disc wanted to restart, it goes straight to grub and never completes the installation. What's exactly going on here?00:02
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wilee-nileestyles_, Probably just install the W8 bootloader in the mbr, Windows should be in the first partitions and at the least the boot partition in a primary.00:03
wilee-nileestyles_, UPdate-grub might pick up the W8 and just boot to it to finish.00:04
styles_wilee-nilee, I tried. I went to recovery and rebuilt the mbr ect.. 1 sec I'll get more info00:04
wilee-nileeupdate-grub*00:04
malvAre there any riot tracking apps for Ubuntu?00:04
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styles_wilee-nilee, it does find it, but it doesn't add it00:04
Guest20028nautilus extensions does not work.how should i fix this?00:04
malvI need to know where the black people are going to be tonight00:04
arif41_is there any app like bitvise ?00:04
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wilee-nileestyles_, Are you in ubuntu right now, can I see a screenshot of gparted, which may need installing?00:05
wilee-nileein a imagebin00:05
styles_wilee-nilee, yeah 1 sec00:05
styles_wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872640/00:06
styles_I should mention I've tried boot-repair via live cd, it does pickup the windows installation but it never adds it to grub. Nor does update-grub (but they do detect it). I'm assuming it's because windows isn't finished installing00:07
styles_http://i.imgur.com/uSrhcoi.png00:08
mdelany idea why my bluetooth headset would not work in ubuntu, even with it connected and the device seleced in the sound settings00:09
wilee-nileestyles_, Ah the wonderful UEFI, lol, I'm not really up on it, but we have some links, and once in a great while there is solid help here on it, but most often the ubuntu forum is the best place with an author of this thread m-f US daytime.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729500:09
wilee-nilee!uefi | styles_ Here is the bots.00:10
ubottustyles_ Here is the bots.: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI00:10
styles_God I freaking hate UEFI00:10
James_EppI'm looking for a distro based off Ubuntu that has really good out-of-box video driver support. (I'm running three monitors, and it isn't too co-operative :S)00:10
styles_I've read a lot about it. I do have it disabled in my mobo, ect.. the /boot partition DOES have the windows bootloader AND grub in it (looking now) BUT grub is activated00:10
bekksJames_Epp: Why not using ubuntu and installing and configuring the graphics driver?00:11
wilee-nileestyles_, I'm avoiding it, I can fix most boot things, however the uefi is different per manufacturers release, I want to live a long happy life. ;)00:11
James_Eppbekks: I'm not crazy about stock Ubuntu :S00:11
styles_I was under the assumption grub would have been overwritten by windows00:11
styles_wilee-nilee, I'm crying inside since I've bought this new mobo it's been nothing but UEFI troubles00:11
styles_I will hands down never buy one with UEFI again00:11
wilee-nileestyles_, Looks like a uefi install on a msdos setup am I correct?00:11
James_Eppstyles_ that may be difficult in a few years :(00:12
styles_James_Epp, I know :(00:12
Guest20028nautilus extensions does not work i am using nautilus version 3.4.200:12
wilee-nileewilee-nilee, I have W8 dualbooted in standard msdos00:12
styles_wilee-nilee, yeah00:12
styles_I wonder if I force EFI to be on if grub will gtfo and windows will do it's thing o.O00:13
wilee-nileestyles_, No boot partition here as well, I made a ntfs, with a boot flag, and just did the manual install from W800:13
styles_See I did that, I think W8 though the NTFS partition was my whole disk or something. (Not knowning wtf grub and /boot was). I did switch the flags to the NTFS but the boot parition is still taking over00:14
styles_Just curious, on a boot parition what specifies the inital startup for the disk00:14
wilee-nileestyles_, Actually I'm mistaken mine does have a boot partition, sorry, I let it build itself from custom, but on a regular msdos formatted HD with 3 other linux on already.00:15
occok i found a potential fix, adding "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1 blink=1 btcoex_enable=1 enable_diversity=1" to the file: /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf , which i done..... now i am supposed to run the command "rmmod ath9k modprobe -b ath9k" except this says error "-b" not a valid parameter.... any ideas what it should be?00:16
occthis is to fix the wifi that keeps disconnecting00:16
styles_wilee-nilee, ah, well let me try this (update-grub might have worked god knows) thanks again wilee-nilee for your help let's cross out fingers :P00:17
wilee-nileeno prob00:17
occalso i cant try the other fix because the webpage http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable#compat-wireless_3.6_stable_releases -all the download links are empty? -they all say file not found00:17
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dattrynautilus extensions does not work i am using nautilus version 3.4.200:17
th0rOcc: try jus modprobe athp9k, that should reload the module00:18
occth0r with the rmmod first?00:18
mouseguyis there any way i can force ubuntu 13.04 to use kernel 3.2?00:18
th0rOcc: that is two separate commands...first rmmod, then modprobe00:19
wilee-nileemouseguy, I would think it is a install it and choose it at grub, however why?00:19
mouseguymy mouse problem (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=156923)00:19
mouseguyonly appears in kernel 3.3+00:20
mouseguydo i lose any functionality or security by using an older kernel?00:20
dattrymessage me one00:21
occhmmm.... "rmmod ath9k" worked, but then "modprobe ath9k" returns: FATAL error inserting ath9k (/lib/modules/3.2.0-37-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k,ko):unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter(see dmesg)00:22
mouseguyis there a detailed guide on how to install a different kernel to be able to choose in grub?00:23
th0rOcc: one of the parameters in the new modprobe.d file is probably wrong00:23
occyeh, the step before this in the fix was to add : options ath9k nohwcrypt=1 blink=1 btcoex_enable=1 enable_diversity=1, to a file............ i have just removed this line now and modprobe works00:24
occi guess this alleged fix dosnt work for me00:24
wilee-nileemouseguy, Are you registered with freenode, if you are you might try ##linux as well.00:25
Dr_willismouseguy,  see what other kernels are in the repos for yoru release. or see the !kernel factoid00:25
th0rocc: you might take out those parameters one at a time to see which is bad...but tht is no guarantee the others will help00:25
Dr_willis!kernel | mouseguy00:25
ubottumouseguy: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)00:25
occit has reconneced now.... now it will disconnect and all my computers will disconnect...00:25
occok thor ill try00:25
wilee-nileeDr_willis, Your back I was wondering what was going on. ;)00:25
Dr_willismouseguy,  its very possible a newer kernel may fix any known bug/regressions00:26
RalliasWith cron, if a job takes more than a minnute will it affect other jobs in ways besides CPU availability?00:26
wilee-nileethe world just seemed different00:26
mouseguyDr_willis, wilee-nilee, thank you guys, ill try your suggestions00:26
Dr_williswilee-nilee,  vacation.  :)  4000+ Miles of driveing an rv..  and text/irc while driveing is a big No no. (this is a Public service anouncement)00:26
wilee-nileeheh, hope it was fun.00:27
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aaron_guys write me something to see if the notification  plugin works00:29
th0raaron_: no00:29
aaron_th0r, one time again pls00:30
th0raaron_: the first one didn't work?00:31
aaron_th0r, i should i have minimized i think00:31
pc-2Hi, I selected the encrypt my driver and home folder on the ubuntu install, does anyone know what kind of encryption it uses?00:31
netrunner_hello guys , i use pidgin to connect with my hotmail account , i can't receive pictures from hotmail account ? on of them send to me many times but here in pidgin i can't see anything00:33
sb3997/nick garry00:34
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kellydivineany idea guys00:34
occoh my god. i think i fixed it!00:34
occ*puts rope back in drawer*00:34
occjust adding "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" to the file  /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf, has made my wifi stable00:35
David-ARallias: I don't think so. Processes run in parallell. (But if a process (started by cron or otherwise) explicitly locks a resource used by another process, it will of course affect it.)00:36
Ralliasmmk.00:36
RalliasSo my apt-mirror daily cronjob won't affect my other daily jobs?00:37
badk1ttymeow.. i mean hello00:46
badk1ttyanyone alive in here!?00:49
nimdAHKhi00:49
badk1ttyhey00:49
badk1ttyso whats up00:50
nimdAHKjust making some strings at foragoodstrftime.com00:50
badk1ttythinkn you could answer a minor ? fur me?00:51
wilee-nileecept for the 12 webbed toes not much00:51
badk1ttylol00:51
badk1ttycute response00:51
sam_join #knightsoftheeasterncalculus vividred10outof1000:54
wilee-nileebadk1tty, Give us the lowdown on the problem. ;)00:54
badk1ttywell i jsut installed 13.04 and i clicked by the encrypt home dir so i searched for a resolution and found a manual command in the terminal only when i ran the command the site says don't do this if your logged in to your current account ----00:55
badk1ttyi was also looking for a history of commands lemme check my linux bible00:56
badk1ttyi was basically just trying to encrypt the home directory after  i missed it on the install00:57
wilee-nileebadk1tty, I'm not up on encryption, but the channel usually has those that are, here are a link regardless. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome#Encrypted_Home00:58
wilee-nilees/are/is00:58
wilee-nileeNotice the older release info is all, for id relative info on your release00:59
wilee-nileeif*00:59
badk1ttyi know RTFM i should know better01:00
badk1ttythats what i get fur bein in a hurry01:01
badk1ttythanks i appreciate it01:01
wilee-nileebadk1tty, I just only have used truecrypt for my passwords is all.01:03
badk1ttyis there a nix ver for that proggie?01:03
badk1tty*waits wiff anticipation*01:03
wilee-nileebadk1tty, I use it in linux, you can do whole partitions and files, however the ubuntu repos have good stuff, and is supported here.01:04
badk1ttyoutstanding01:04
vicsar.01:04
badk1ttyi was looking at Mint too have you used that distro?01:05
wilee-nileetruecrypt is closed source and 32rd party so a bit harder to get any help at all.01:05
wilee-nilee3rd lol01:05
badk1ttycryptography is never easy unless its cracked ... :)01:05
mouseguyhi, im trying to install gpm but "sudo apt-get install gpm" returns message: Package gpm is not available, but is referred to by another package.01:05
wilee-nileebadk1tty, I haven't but many like it, it is just ubuntu with some extras and forked desktops basically.01:06
[jensen]is Abelton worth trying to run under WINE, or should I stick with a VM?  I'm worried about support for the VSTs I use01:06
badk1ttyso just another pretty face same base01:06
wilee-nileebadk1tty, I think of it as ubuntu in drag. ;)01:06
badk1ttylol01:06
badk1ttywell just htink how much fun im gonna have trying to get Autocad 2014 to run in nix01:07
wilee-nileeheh, earlier releases run I guess I have not needed it but checked it out.01:07
badk1ttywhat v of cad?01:08
badk1ttywas that in wine?01:08
wilee-nileebadk1tty, I'm mistaken it was a terminal math thing a friend run on apple, I forget the name.01:09
badk1ttywouldn't be matlab would it?01:09
aguitelhow install google earth in 13.0401:09
wilee-nileethat it is. ;l)01:10
badk1tty:)01:10
badk1ttycool proggie01:10
wilee-nileeaguitel, Shpould be a google download on the web.01:10
badk1ttykinda like a fourier transform01:10
aguitelwilee-nilee, ok01:10
wilee-nileeaguitel, I see this though. http://askubuntu.com/questions/302135/google-earth-on-13-04-ubuntu01:11
aguitelthanks01:11
wilee-nileeaguitel, No problem, google earth as I have see usually needs the stable to install i ubuntu.01:11
wilee-nileein*01:11
aguitela ok01:11
afsdfhow to check for disk error in ubuntu?01:12
badk1ttyisn't there a bunch of stuff in the software section01:12
wilee-nileeafsdf, There is a smart check in the menu called disks01:12
wilee-nileedisk manager or something they changed the name per release01:13
badk1ttycute01:13
badk1ttyim still getting used to the window ctrls on the left01:13
Daelmhas anybody heard of a method to get the 'tap to click' to work on the logitech t650 trackpads?01:14
g_laasfdgfdgdfgfsdfsdfsf01:16
afsdfi dont think i got 88g of data on my disk01:16
afsdfwhat's the best way to check for error ?01:16
g_laastest01:17
wilee-nileeDaelm, here is one http://cmattoon.com/articles/logitech-t650-ubuntu.php and another http://askubuntu.com/search?q=logitech-t65001:17
wilee-nileeafsdf, use the smart disk check that is on board01:18
afsdfthat found nothing01:18
badk1ttybtw thanks wilee01:18
wilee-nileeafsdf, cool01:19
afsdfsmart test is for checking bad sector01:19
wilee-nileeafsdf, "how to check for disk error in ubuntu?" hmmmmm01:19
wilee-nileedetials my son01:19
wilee-nileebadk1tty, No prob.01:20
wilee-nileeDaelm, From a quick glance it seems to work, however with limitations.01:22
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jonathan21hola01:24
jonathan21alguien abla español?01:24
Dr_willis!es01:26
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.01:26
afsdfany partition repair tool in ubuntu01:28
wilee-nilee!fsck01:29
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot01:29
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afflictoI just downloaded sublime text 2 and I added a sublime.desktop file but the icon I added doesn't show up. Does it need a specific image format? (it's PNG)01:35
SonikkuAmericaafflicto: It shouldn't need to be a specific filetype, but I think only JPG, BMP, GIF and SVG are supported... someone check me on that.01:37
Dr_willisI recall some guide on omgubuntu or webupd8 on setting up sublime witth a launcher/desktop file..01:38
Dr_willisbut i dont use  the program.01:38
Dr_willisI would think a .desktop file can work with a png image.  the icon cache/menu cache may also take some time to rescan/reload.01:39
Dr_willishttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/installing-sublime-text-in-ubuntu01:42
aguiteli installed google earth ,everything right but panoramio photos are blank ,any one know this?01:43
fazzahi:P01:43
fazzawe have some new falcons01:44
fazzawe bred them01:44
SonikkuAmericafazza: How well do they PUNCH?01:44
fazzahttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=539718856092205&l=13d60ed76401:44
SonikkuAmerica!ot | inb4, fazza01:44
fazzathey are still minors :D01:44
ubottuinb4, fazza: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:44
afflictoSonikkuAmerica: ok, I found a package from webupd8 tho which made a desktop entry :P01:44
SonikkuAmericaafflicto: kk01:45
afflictoIs there an easy way to run an application from terminal but "outside" the terminal? so I can continue using the terminal for other tasks?01:46
Dr_willisafflicto,  command &01:47
Dr_willisbash job controll fundamentals01:47
afflictoDr_willis: works great thanks :)01:47
SonikkuAmericaafflicto: And after that, you can smash the terminal with the ^D hammer01:47
SonikkuAmericaafflicto: without killing all its child processes01:48
Dr_willishttp://www.symkat.com/understanding-job-control-in-bash01:48
tenguixChirp?01:49
tenguixHelp please.01:49
SonikkuAmerica!ask | tenguix: Penguins don't chirp01:50
ubottutenguix: Penguins don't chirp: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:50
Dr_willisdetails please...01:50
linexwhts the best linex to ever be created?01:50
Dr_willislinex,  no idea what 'linex' is.....01:50
tenguixBIOS update [most likely] needs to be done.01:50
falkenMazemy boot is broke. can get to recovery mode and thats it. no really traceable error either.01:50
Dr_willis!best > linex01:50
ubottulinex, please see my private message01:51
SonikkuAmerica!details | tenguix: How do you figure?01:51
ubottutenguix: How do you figure?: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."01:51
tenguixIs ubottu a bot?01:51
tenguix:)01:51
Dr_willisuBOTtu,01:51
Dr_willis!bot01:52
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tenguixyes.01:52
tenguixWell. I figure cause out of nowhere, one day, a shutdown made my system hang forever.01:52
tenguixnow it hangs forever, every time, no exception across any distro.01:52
tenguixOf linux, not just ubuntu.01:52
Dr_willistenguix,  i dont see how hanging on shutdown - imples you need a bios update. which may or may not even exist..01:52
tenguixWell, I scavenged far and white for explanations.01:53
tenguixFound matching reports across other distros, regarding laptops. And the bios update was the only thing that worked for some people01:53
Dr_willisAPCI/APIC/APM quirks in the bios/kernel, often fixable with some kernel boot options. - If you want to update your bios. then go for it.01:53
tenguixI know my bios is four plus versions out of date.01:53
tenguixI've tinkered with the bios and kernel, nothing has worked since the first time it hung.01:54
Dr_willisit would seem odd that it was working, then suddendly stopped.01:54
tenguixIt does, yet it doesnt.01:54
an0nThe network-manager Ubuntu stores the password for that site?01:54
tenguixMy sound card did the same thing, but it came back to life. This didnt resolve itself, its really the only thing I haven't been able to rewrite and rerun.01:55
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Dr_willissounds like you may be having deeper hardware issues tenguix . If it used to work. then no longer works and theres been no other changes.01:56
tenguixYeah thats what I'm hoping against :)01:56
tenguixIs there a quick way to identify the offset of some bunk sectors?01:56
tenguix(bad sectors)..01:57
Dr_willisbadblocks command perhaps. ive rarely had to fight with bad hds. ;) if they act up i replace them01:57
tenguixEvery time I run a scan, badblocks doesnt find anything01:57
tenguixOnly when I query SMART01:57
an0nThe network-manager Ubuntu stores the password for that site?01:57
tenguixlike, with udev and such01:58
Dr_willisan0n,  that questionmakes very little sence.01:58
tenguixor when I used to have a real ubuntu distro, and I used some gnome tool.01:58
tenguixI hate gnome.01:58
tenguix>:[01:58
Dr_willisthe systemrescue live cd - has numerous disk and other trouble shooting tools.01:58
tenguixwell, grumbles aside, I still am seeking some serious aid in this area.01:59
David-Atenguix: if a bad block is detected during write, the hd itself replaces the bad block and a scan afterwards wont find anything. SMART is a good way to monitor the hd status01:59
an0nDr_willis: I wonder if the passwords stored by network-manager of the connections are made on disk?01:59
Dr_willisan0n,  i dont think network manager stores anything about the specific web sites the users goes to. thats not its job.02:00
tenguixDr. Willis: are there any systemrescue images for modern kernels? And David: are there any ways to FIND the offset on the disk of said sectors?02:00
Dr_willistenguix,  system rescue live cd homepage would say what kerneles its for. I imagine they keep up to date.02:00
tenguixMy laptop seems to really, really like the newer kernels. AMD has chipped in a great deal since like, ubuntu 1102:00
an0nDr_willis: In which place?02:01
an0nDr_willis: When the user enters the password for connecting to a network using network-manager, this password is stored where?02:03
tenguixThank you Willis02:04
tenguixDr_willis: thank you.02:04
moesHow to change launch command in an existing launcher02:06
GovernadorAlguem aqui que use Vmware no Ubuntu 13.04, depois que aparece o "txt" no terminal, qual o botão que pressiono para que avance a instalação?02:06
tenguixmoes: each launcher should have a '.desktop' extension, the files are somewhere in '~/.config', usually02:06
tenguixyou could do a 'find ~/.config |& grep '\.desktop$'02:07
moestenguix, Thanks for the info02:07
an0nDr_willis: I ask because I wonder if when the network password is changed and the user enters the new password if it replaces the old file and in the same position that it is hard disc?02:08
tenguixWillis02:08
GovernadorWhen I select the 'Suspend', the computer does not realize what was selected and goes to a black screen and stays there for minutes without shutting down or suspending. I have to press the power dial to turn off the notebook. Does anyone have any idea what it might be?02:08
tenguixOH MY GOD02:08
tenguixTHATS WHAT HAPPENS TO ME02:08
tenguixGOVERNATOR02:08
FloodBot1tenguix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:08
dopiehow do i upgrade to the new version of sublime text 202:10
shawnhi guys I am having issues installing virtualbox. I tried installing the .deb from the virtualbox website and ever since I have been unable to remove or install the package properly even from the repository02:11
shawnany assistance would be great!02:11
Dr_willisdopie,  install it from the sublime web site would be my guess02:11
shawnDr_willis do you ever get a day off?02:12
Dr_willisshawn,  just came back from 2 weeks of vacation.02:12
shawnDr_willis thats great. I'm sure the community missed you02:12
lifelikedopie, the only way is through the website02:14
David-Atenguix: welcome back :) I don't know if there is a way to find which blocks the hd itself have mapped to replacement blocks. but there is no need to, that blocks need not be avoided in a mkfs or something, since they are good again.02:14
shawnhi guys, I know you are assisting others with their issues. Whenever my turn comes up, just let me know :) thanks guys! You are the best!02:15
lifelikedopie, you can use this guide for a neat Ubuntu install http://www.technoreply.com/how-to-install-sublime-text-2-on-ubuntu-12-04-unity/02:15
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austin_hi02:15
lifelikeshawn, ask away02:15
David-Atenguix: but if a bad block is detected during read, it will not be automatically remapped, and can be found using badblocks, that will report the block number.02:16
austin_hello02:16
shawnhi lifelike, as I stated earlier I tried installing virtualbox from the deb downloaded from oracle's website. Ever since I tried installing it, I have been unable to successfully remove or reinstall the application (or even run it!)02:16
shawnwhen I try to run: "sudo apt-get remove virtualbox-4.2"02:17
lifelikeshawn: okay, how are you trying to execute it? Can you try running it form a terminal?02:17
lifelikeshawn: since you installed it from a deb file it probably wont show in apt-get02:18
lifelikeshawn: you would have to use dpkg02:18
shawnlifelike: running the command "virtualbox" from the terminal produces the output /usr/bin/virtualbox: line 1: $'\377\37702:18
shawnand the "\377" repeats itself a countless number of times02:18
farsight....02:19
lifelikei'm guessing /usr/bin/virtualbox is a script then02:20
lifelikecan you paste the contents in bpaste.net and link it here02:20
shawnI tried to run "sudo dpkg -r virtualbox-4.2"02:20
shawnsure02:20
shawnbrb02:20
shawnhttp://bpaste.net/show/114185/02:21
shawnthats the output02:21
shawnokay as for the "\377" this is the output I was talking about earlier02:21
lifelikesorry I wasn't clear. I meant can you open the script /usr/bin/virtualbox and paste that contents in bpaste02:22
shawnsure02:22
shawnone moment02:22
shawnhere you are: http://bpaste.net/show/114186/02:23
crfhi. what key do you use to select something in the Package Configuration. I thought "enter" worked. But it doesn't.02:23
lifeliketry this: cat /usr/bin/virtualbox02:23
lifelikepaste that contents02:23
dopieok how do i force overite somethimg trying to move02:23
dopiesudo mv Sublime\ Text\ 2 /opt/   gives me mv: cannot move `Sublime Text 2' to `/opt/Sublime Text 2': Directory not empty02:23
shawnhere you are (this is the output for "cat /usr/bin/virtualbox": http://bpaste.net/show/114187/02:24
lifelikeshawn: okay, then it isn't a script..02:26
lifelikeare you running 13.04?02:26
shawnyes02:26
shawnlifelike: i think im just going to reinstall ubuntu again.. 5th times a charm im sure02:27
lifelikeshawn, hold on02:27
lifelikeis this a 64 bit or 32 bit installation?02:27
shawn64-bit02:28
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lifelikevirtualbox 4.2.12?02:28
shawnthis is the package I obtained from oracle's website: virtualbox-4.2_4.2.16-86992~Ubuntu~raring_amd64.deb02:28
dopiesudo mv Sublime\ Text\ 2 /opt/   gives me mv: cannot move `Sublime Text 2' to `/opt/Sublime Text 2': Directory not empty  how do i force move everything02:28
lifelikedopie: force moving is mv -f , but take care with that flag02:29
shawndopie sudo mv -f02:29
dopiehehehe02:29
dopie:)02:29
dopiethanks02:29
shawndopie:02:29
shawndopie: if you need to learn about a command try "man mv"02:30
shawnor "man (command here)"02:30
shawnif that makes sense02:30
crfok. I see it is a program called "whiptail" that runs this package configuration dialog.02:30
lifelikeshawn: so apparently there's a bug in the deb install of virtualbox which is causing that problem02:30
lifelikeI just googled it02:30
dopieahh ok02:30
dopieshawn,02:30
shawnlifelike: so next time I should try to just "sudo apt-get" i suppose02:30
shawndopie: hi02:31
dopieoops02:31
dopieshawn, thank you02:31
shawn:( it wasnt me02:31
shawnlifelike: can you please link me to the kb you are reading this from?02:31
lifelikeshawn: it's safer with apt-get02:31
lifelikehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/288835/virtualbox-4-2-12-installation-breaks-ubuntu-13-04-desktop02:32
afflictoI have a problem with apache2 I'm getting 403 forbidden. here's my sites-available/afflicto file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872892/ thanks in advance02:32
lifelikenot the same issue as you though02:32
shawnah ok.. well ill reinstall ;) cant take too long02:32
shawnthanks for your help lifelike!02:32
lifelikefollow this guide instead: http://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/virtualization/install-virtualbox-4-2-on-ubuntu-13-04.html#axzz2Yz1G6tn702:32
shawnyou are the man!02:32
lifelikeshawn: i highly doubt that :)02:33
lifelikethanks though!02:33
shawnlol cya guys02:33
nbagsanyone used owncloud? is there something like this around that can do deduplication? or some way to make owncloud do it?02:34
lifelikenbags: what do you mean by deduplications?02:35
lifelikeversioning?02:35
nbagslifelike: so like, if i move/rename a file, it won't reupload it again. and if i have 2 copies of the same file it won't store/upload 2 copies. like dropbox/gdrive, etc can handle. better still do it at block level...02:36
lifelikenbags, version history is the term you're looking for :)02:36
crfoh it's the space key.02:37
lifelikeI've been monitoring owncloud for a while and version history is the only thing you're looking for, consider using git02:37
gddsfgis it possible to decrypt home directory wihout using extra space?02:37
lifelikenbagsall these applications like gdrive and dropbox are based on hit02:37
gddsfgdecrypt home directory from terminal required  extra space02:38
gddsfgor is it possible to disable home folder encryption02:38
SlimyWonjoin #gcc02:38
nbagslifelike: can i mount git like a filesystem? and if i copy a file into it which already exists somewhere else in the tree, will it detect the hash and "upload" it instantly?02:38
lifelikenbags: git is *just* version control, are you looking for version control but without cloud storage?02:40
lifelikein which case I'd say owncloud might be the easiest way I can think off right now02:41
Georwlany russians here?02:42
nbagslifelike: no, looking for something like opencloud that has data de-duplication for uploads, and so is smart about moves/renames/copies02:43
SonikkuAmerica!ru > Georwl02:43
ubottuGeorwl, please see my private message02:43
nbagss/opencloud/owncloud02:43
kalakjhello everyone, i have one problem, whenever i try to shut down, my laptop restarts, i recently updated UBuntu 12.04 LTS and there was also kernel update. Help me to solve that problem02:46
lifelikenbags: I recently came across this kickstarter campaign for a device called Plug: http://meetplug.com/kickstarter/02:48
lifelikeMaybe something you'd be interested in?02:48
kalakjhello everyone, i have one problem, whenever i try to shut down, my laptop restarts, i recently updated UBuntu 12.04 LTS and there was also kernel update. Help me to solve that problem02:48
F41LOk... so, still having this EFI issue. I've now downloaded rEFInd, and I get this "Error: UNsupported while loading iso9660_x64.efi, Error: UNsupported while loading HFS_x64.efi, Error: UNsupported while loading EXT2_x64.efi, Error: UNsupported while loading ET4_x64.efi, Error: UNsupported while loading tridrtgd_x64.efi, Error: UNsupported while loading btrs_x64.efi. * Hit any key to continue * "02:52
F41LNot sure where that puts me with trying to install ubuntu on this lattitude 10 TS202:52
benkong2anyone got an idea why gdm would not be called at boot?02:55
benkong2my system boots to a black screen, I have to ctrl-alt-F1 then login and use startx and all is normal02:55
benkong2if I do sudo gdm from a terminal I get a warning that gdm is not running02:56
Xaosgood evening all03:00
Dr_willisbenkong2,  lightdm is the default. , and it would be 'sudo service lightdm restart' or 'gdm restart' to restart it03:00
Dr_willissudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm (or lightdm) to select the default *dm03:00
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benkong2Dr_willis: ok thanks03:01
JohnathonIs it natural for a Lubuntu installation to freeze on "eGenerating locales en.US_UTF-8"?03:01
XaosMay I ask a quick question about installing Ubuntu?03:02
saiarcot895Johnathon: you might want to try #lubuntu instead03:02
saiarcot895Xaos: don't ask to ask; just ask03:03
JohnathonOh sorry03:03
Xaos:-) was just being polite and waiting my turn.  didnt want to be pushy03:03
saiarcot895Xaos: that's fine :)03:03
sarthorHI, I changed the body of my laptop, and I only this is Harman/Kardon Toshiba laptop, How to know the exact model name of this laptop. Linux installed. HELP03:04
XaosI am going to install it on my laptop.  Now from everything I read thus far, I will be able to dual boot.  Is this 100% accurate?  I don't want to lose windows, at least not just yet.03:05
saiarcot895Xaos: yes, if you make space for Ubuntu on a separate partition, you should be able to use Windows and Ubuntu03:06
saiarcot895sarthor: I don't think you can get the model name of your computer from Linux itself03:06
somsip zzax  c /]l\~~555666y78op====]03:06
Dr_willisModel Name? should be on a sticker on the laptop.03:06
XaosWill the Ubuntu installation allow me to take free space from my existing partition and create a new one?  Or is that something I need to do with another third party program first?03:07
Dr_williswhat chipset is IN the laptop is more imporntant for the most part03:07
sarthorDr_willis: laptop body changed. No sticker remaining03:07
Dr_willisXaos,  i find it easier/faster to have windows resize its own partions.03:07
saiarcot895Xaos: in addition, Disk Management in Windows might help03:07
guitarHestersarthor: what do you get from uname -a  ?03:08
Xaosok, thanks for the info!03:08
sarthorguitarHester: Linux linux-mint-deb 3.2.0-4-486 #1 Debian 3.2.32-1 i686 GNU/Linux03:09
guitarHesterhm, I didn't think you would get a straight model name from uname03:09
guitarHesterhow about   hostname?   ... don't print that here03:10
guitarHesterBut a lot of the time, the default hostname set by recent GNULinux OS will include the model number.03:10
saiarcot895sarthor: after googling, I found this: do "sudo lshw -C system"03:11
guitarHesterRecently I installed 13.04 on a Dell D630, the default hostname turned out to be  something like   Dell-D63003:11
guitarHestersaiarcot895: cool!03:12
allaireanybody use monit + upstart?03:12
saiarcot895guitarHester: I didn't realize Linux could get this much info from the hardware03:12
guitarHesterlspci and lsmod have saved me so many times... makes sense there would be a "list hardware" command.03:13
PepperoniPizzasaiarcot895, does not compute03:16
saiarcot895PepperoniPizza: the lshw?03:16
sarthorsaiarcot895: yea. that worked. says PSAW0U-0FU033B03:16
PepperoniPizzasaiarcot895, that you didn't think linux could find out about the hardware lol03:16
qin_guitarHester: lshw ?03:16
guitarHesterPepperoniPizza: we were all new once; I'm still very new03:17
RoDiMuS-XGood evening guys, I installed the Nvidia Drivers in Ubuntu 13.04 and now my TTY font is huge, do you know how to adjust the resolution?03:21
falkenMazemy boot is broke. it appears to be hanging at mounting the filesystem but fstab looks normal http://sprunge.us/gRQc  I can get to recovery mode and thats it. no really traceable error either.03:22
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zonneis yoshi here03:23
zonnehe better not be because if he is03:24
zonneit won't be pretty03:24
PepperoniPizzafalkenMaze, ran an fsck on the file system ?03:26
falkenMazePepperoniPizza yes, zero errors03:26
falkenMazefsck -f03:26
afflictoI'm trying to create a virtualhost so I can host my files in /home/afflicto/public_html/ but I keep getting 403 errors. I followed this guide: http://www.maketecheasier.com/install-and-configure-apache-in-ubuntu/2011/03/09 Please help, thanks.03:27
PepperoniPizzafalkenMaze, and if you boot a live-cd are you able to mount / to say /root to test it ?03:27
PepperoniPizzamaybe run a SMART check on the hard drive too03:28
falkenMazePepperoniPizza yes, I am chrooted to the OS now03:28
PepperoniPizzafalkenMaze, hmm03:28
PepperoniPizzafalkenMaze, i'd def run a smart test on the HD to run out hardware issues03:28
falkenMazeit's a vm03:28
falkenMazenew03:28
falkenMazemigrate (rsynced) host03:29
shawnafflicto: are you sure you configured the .htaccess file correctly?03:29
PepperoniPizzafalkenMaze, hmm  sorry no idea03:29
PepperoniPizzafalkenMaze, although the vm files do still live on a hard drive.03:29
falkenMazethe host is functioning perfectly.03:30
PepperoniPizzafalkenMaze, yea im grasping at straws since there isn't alot of info to go on03:30
falkenMazeIt was runing and rebooting normally tile I upgraded from 10.something to 12.0403:31
PepperoniPizzafalkenMaze, well that is more info :-) seems like the upgrade broke something03:32
PepperoniPizzafalkenMaze, might be best to just do a fresh install of whatever version you plan on using03:33
falkenMazePepperoniPizza I had just got grub2 working prior to the upgrade. I was trying to think ahead.03:33
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PepperoniPizzafalkenMaze, hasn't grub 2 been standard for awhile03:36
afflictoshawn: .htaccess file? :S03:36
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falkenMazePepperoniPizza it had 0.9703:37
PepperoniPizzafalkenMaze, i'd grab whatever data you need off the install and just do a fresh install of 12.10 or 13.0403:37
MemnochI did a sudo apt-get install youtube-dl but sometimes the filenames it uses are a problem - i want to modify it - but I do not know where to look?  I am an MS programmer trying to make the change to nix, but am finding simple things rather difficult.03:42
PepperoniPizzaMemnoch, man youtube-dl03:43
PepperoniPizzamight have a manual page03:43
wheatthinMemnoch, did you try to use man youtube-dl.. it'll probably show you all the switches03:43
tomivsHi for all03:43
wheatthinaww PepperoniPizza  lol03:43
Memnochthank you pizza03:43
Memnochdid that03:43
tomivsI want install a kernel compiled for me03:43
Memnochshove some roni up ur ass03:44
wheatthinMemnoch, hey be nice03:44
wheatthinor leave.03:44
Memnochsoz03:44
Memnochi have been trolling the man pages, googling etc.03:45
PepperoniPizzai'll shove my roni up your ass03:45
Memnochit's not like i have not tried03:45
wheatthinSTOP03:45
PepperoniPizzaand you will love it03:45
ryperfacetomivs: What format is the kernel on?03:45
Memnochthe man pages do not tell me where the script is03:46
ryperfacetomivs: in*03:46
wheatthinMemnoch, it doesn't have to, search your system03:46
tomivsryperface, tar.bz203:46
tomivsryperface, I have the kernel decompressed03:47
Memnochif i want to modify the script i need to know where it is - the man pages tell me how to use it - i know how to use it - i want to modify how it works - and its a perl script, so surely it must be somewhere03:47
ryperfacetomivs: when you say it was compiled for you, what exactly do you mean?03:47
wheatthinMemnoch, so search your system, either use find or locate03:48
tomivsryperface, I want a kernel compiled by me03:48
ryperfacetomivs: Ah, that's different.03:48
tomivsryperface, I downloaded the source03:49
ryperfaceCan someone get tomivs a link to compile and install your own kernel? I'm on my phone.03:50
MemnochI would like to apologise to pizza - I am just frustrated at this point and what I said was uncalled for.03:50
wheatthinit's not recommended03:50
tomivswheatthin, Ok03:50
tomivsAnyway i want03:51
tomivsDoes anyone help me?03:52
falkenMazeMemnoch the kernel is an i/o. you download the sources to /usr/src/linux and run 'make menuconfig' to get into it. that whole command line based gui is a tool that makes modifying the /usr/src/linux/.config a lot easier. manual edit is a pain in the butt.03:52
wheatthintomivs, is there a reason for the new kernel?03:53
tomivswheatthin, For better compatibility with hardware and update me03:54
wheatthintomivs, which hardware isn't working?03:54
tomivswheatthin, Monitor03:54
falkenMazeMemnoch your actual kernel file is typically /boot/vmlinuz-3.2~03:54
tomivswheatthin, IBM e5403:55
F41LSo I just don't think I can figure out how to get a 32bit efi booting Ubuntu install :(03:55
F41LI'm stuck with Windows 803:55
PepperoniPizzatomaw, monitors are plug and play ?03:55
PepperoniPizzatomivs*03:55
tomivsPepperoniPizza, Yes03:55
wheatthinfalkenMaze, not it isn't, the pointers are there lol03:55
Alan___Hi all.03:55
wheatthinkernel is located in /usr/src03:55
falkenMazewheatthin depends on the os03:55
Memnochwhy would i want to rebuild my kernel?03:56
tomivswheatthin, ok03:56
falkenMazesometimes its hidden in an unmount sda2 as /boot03:57
Alan___I am using a shared lan connection from my ubuntu box into my raspberry pi. It works great, but when I reboot, ubuntu decides that the shared connection is the primary one, and I have no internet till I delete that in the network manager. How can I make it keep it straight?03:57
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wheatthintomivs, and your monitor is plug n play, so there shouldn't be a need for it03:57
tomivswheatthin, It looks very dark03:58
PepperoniPizzaAlan___, can't you just use ifdown eth0 or some such to put the interface down ?03:58
wheatthintomivs, very dark? turn up the brightness03:58
PepperoniPizzaand then use ifup eth0 to bring it back03:58
tomivswheatthin, How to?03:58
ryperfacewow...03:58
tomivsThe dark tones do not look good03:59
PepperoniPizzanot sure if serious, or a troll03:59
Alan___PepperoniPizza, I can do that, but I dont want to have to mess with it each time I reboot. Network manager should have some mechanism for remembering usage and device order03:59
PepperoniPizzaAlan___, no idea, I don't use network manager03:59
tomivswheatthin, I have the brightness 100% configured in the monitor buttons04:00
wheatthintomivs, are there different "modes" on your monitor?04:00
tomivsI think it's the video card04:00
wheatthindifferent temperatures04:00
wheatthintomivs, what kind of graphics card do you have?04:01
Alan___It is a bit mystifying. eth0 is my onboard NIC and eth1 is a pci card. but no matter what I name the connection, it sorts it to first when I boot.04:02
PepperoniPizzaAlan___, sorts to what first ?04:02
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tomivswheatthin, Chipset NVIDIA04:03
tomivsGeforce G150SE nForce 43004:03
Alan___PepperoniPizza, it always sorts the list(of 2 items) so that the shared connection between my computer and the raspberry pi is first. I end up with no outgoing lan connection because eth0 is ignored.04:03
tomivswheatthin, Chipset NVIDIA Geforce G150SE nForce 43004:04
Alan___It works fine, it just gets confused at boot time.04:04
wheatthintomivs, is your monitor backlit?04:04
PepperoniPizzaAlan___, hmm04:04
PepperoniPizzaAlan___, so, the lan to your raspberry pi is just so you can SSH in right ?04:05
Alan___Correct PepperoniPizza.04:05
tomivswheatthin, I think yes04:06
PepperoniPizzaAlan___, i'd setup an /etc/network/interfaces file04:06
wheatthintomivs, did you install the nvidia driver?04:08
tomivswheatthin, No04:09
Alan___Pepperoni. I think that is a good idea, but I am a loss where to start. I'm reading on it now. Thanks for your advice and attention. I now have some forward  momentum.04:09
wheatthintomivs, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current04:09
PepperoniPizzaAlan___, i'd setup an /etc/network/interfaces file using a static IP for the network card going to the raspberry pi, do you use dhcp for your internet ?04:09
Alan___PepperoniPizza, yes, the network connection application is using dhcp04:10
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mdelany idea why my bluetooth headset would not work in ubuntu, even with it connected and the device seleced in the sound settings?04:11
mdeli just get nothing04:11
kellyhello guys , i want to access windows shared folder in ubuntu , i installed samba ststem-config-samba python-glade now when i open the file manager - network i can see all the folders sharing on the network but can't access them ! every time i open a folder there is an error message Unable to mount location , Failed to mount Windows share04:12
afflictoOk, so I have set the owner of public_html to "www-data" so apache can access it. I also did sudo chmod -R 777 public_html && sudo chmod -R +x public_html still 403 error -,-04:12
PepperoniPizzaAlan___, if you give me all the info I can make an /etc/network/interfaces file for you to try04:12
fasdsdfhow to remove encryption on home folder04:12
Alan___PepperoniPizza, I think that makes sense and gives me a handle on what to google. Ultimately I would like to present my raspberry pi to the router so that I can use my phone to ssh into the raspberry. Right now it is hidden behind my ubuntu box, but one step at a time. I think you have helped me a lot already. Thank you.04:12
Alan___It is important that I learn it, so thanks for the offer, but I will muddle through it. I'll break a virtual box connection learning.04:13
PepperoniPizzaAlan___, well the raspberry runs a linux based OS correct? So the *easiest* way would be to connect the raspberry to the router and use DHCP to grab an IP for it, then you can SSH to it from any device on your local network and even the internet if you forward port 22 to the ip of the raspberry04:14
afflictoCan someone please help me? I made a post here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17636389/apache2-virtualhost-403-forbidden04:15
Alan___PepperoniPizza, that is correct(they are neat little devices). I had it directly connected before, but now I am out of reach for a second cable. I moved my office.04:15
wheatthinafflicto, did you try to set the directory properties in the virtual config for apache?04:16
PepperoniPizzaAlan___, I have a 100 ft ethernet cord in my house you can get cheap ones from monoprice.com ;-)04:17
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Alan___PepperoniPizza, I do too, but I dont want one snaking across the floor. :) I am working on controlling RC servo motors and LED lights, so I need the Raspberry Pi in arms reach for the moment.04:18
pupusera75c64is there a cmd for dd to show status ?04:18
wheatthin--progress pupusera75c6404:19
ryperfacepupusera75c64: killall -USR1 dd04:19
pupusera75c64dd --progress if=... ?04:19
tomivswheatthin, The nvidia-current has been installed04:19
Alan___PepperoniPizza, this is a good thing to learn, but if it doesnt work well, I'll think about crawling in the crawl space and running a second lan cable. Thanks again, have a good day/night cycle. :P04:19
afflictowheatthin: I don't know what you mean sorry :P04:19
wheatthinpupusera75c64, dd if=<statement> of=<statment --progress04:20
pupusera75c64thx04:20
Jordan_Uwheatthin: dd doesn't have a --progress option.04:20
wheatthinjordan, it did last time I checked04:20
fasdsdfit just so damn amazing in ubuntu ....when a disk is full ....it lock you out04:20
Jordan_Uwheatthin: No, it never has. I think you're confusing dd with rsync.04:20
wheatthinjordan, I've never used rsync.04:21
ryperfacelol04:21
wheatthinlol04:21
tomivswheatthin, Hey04:21
Jordan_Ufasdsdf: Please watch your language and attitude. What problem are you having?04:22
Diamondcitefasdsdf: Lock you out? how do you run so out of space that the system locks you out?04:22
wheatthinfasdsdf, when your disk is full, it's hard to run any commands, it's true in any linux04:23
wheatthintomivs, did you try setting it up in nvidia-settings?04:23
Diamondcitewheatthin: Doesn't the OS reserve 5% disk space for just root/system tasks?04:23
Jordan_Uwheatthin: Actually a small amount of space is reserved for use only by root, for exactly this reason (so that you can log into recovery mode and delete files).04:24
wheatthinDiamondcite, nope.. when it's full, it's full04:24
fasdsdfwheatthin then it is not a good os if it does that04:24
afflictoI fixed it. I needed to chmod not only /home/afflicto/public_html but also /home/afflicto directory. LOL! this voodoo. finally after 3 hours!04:24
falkenMazeDiamondcite nope04:24
fasdsdfit must reserve some space so that user can log in and do something about it04:24
kellyany idea guys04:25
qin_fasdsdf: matter of interpretation, can you login to terminl in text mode?04:25
ryperfacefasdsdf: you can, it's called single user mode.04:25
Jordan_Uwheatthin: That's the second piece of incorrect information you've given in 5 minutes. I suggest that you be more carefull about making statents on areas you're not sure of, or at least check that you have your information correct first.04:25
falkenMazefasdsdf proper technique, for just that reason is 3 partitions. swap root and home04:25
qin_pupusera75c64: you can just "ls -l" to watch dd work04:26
fasdsdfqin_ problem is you can't delete files when login in that way as the home directory is encrypted04:27
wheatthinexcuse the hell out of me, and instead of going off in the public, why not consult me with a PM, then maybe It'd rectify the situation? instead... nevermind you're not worth it.04:27
falkenMazeqin_  this one comes with a counter  http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Dcfldd04:28
qin_fasdsdf: is your /home/ encrypted?04:28
Jordan_Ufasdsdf: You can mount an ecryptfs encrypted directory from recovery mode (assuming you know that user's login password). Let me find the relevant documentation.04:28
* wheatthin hates uptight people04:30
DiamondciteEven on a full volume, won't a CONSOLE login still work? (Ctrl+alt+F1)04:30
PepperoniPizzaJordan_U, actually wheatthin was correct, I have a friend who filled up his disk so full he couldn't log in to ubuntu anymore and I had to delete some stuff04:32
Network2501mm04:32
PepperoniPizzahe has done it more than once lol04:32
Jordan_UPepperoniPizza: I assume that you didn't try booting via recovery mode, because space is indeed reserved for use only by root.04:32
qin_PepperoniPizza: you can run linux pretty much from ram, hard drive would not matter...04:33
PepperoniPizzaJordan_U, I just booted a live-cd and deleted some crap and he was able to get in to xfce again04:33
PepperoniPizzaqin_, what you are saying has no bearing on the info I provided, yes you could run linux in ram only if you had enough but that is not relevant to this discussion04:34
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DiamondciteGraphical logins could break if the /home is full to user as temporary files needed for X authentication can't be made04:35
DiamondciteBut a console login doesn't need any disk space.. it doesn't even need a /home to exist!04:35
asdfsdis there a way to decrypt home folder04:35
PepperoniPizzaDiamondcite, thank you, that is what I was saying04:36
qin_PepperoniPizza: well, mean that you are able to solve issue of overhogged hd with of without live system.04:36
asdfsdnot to another drive and folder04:36
PepperoniPizzaqin_, I was a new user at that time and did not even know about ctrl+alt+f key to open a new tty04:36
PepperoniPizzaso my solution was to boot a live-cd to fix it for him04:37
wheatthinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/215505/how-do-you-monitor-the-progress-of-dd04:38
rypervencheasdfsd: Nope. It is an encrypted container.04:38
asdfsdrypervenche , noooooooooooooooooo ? no way to decrypt home folder to its own folder?04:39
pupusera75c64wheathin, --progress didnt work but the kill cmd04:39
asdfsdthat's lame04:39
falkenMazehow do you break X11/xdm from the boot config?04:39
rypervencheasdfsd: I'm sure it's possible to move to another location, then make it a normal directory and move back, but nothing on the fly.04:40
wheatthinpupusera75c64, that's fine.. I was wrong for the first time in a long while.. Jordan_U shot me, oh well, glad the crude method worked04:40
qin_falkenMaze: you want to disable xdm?04:40
rypervenchepupusera75c64: ryper: 1   wheatthin: 004:41
falkenMazeyes04:41
pupusera75c64hehe04:41
pupusera75c64k dd finisched, lets try04:41
qin_falkenMaze: in kernel line of grub (shift for menu, e for edit) replace "splash" with "text", booting with no x server at all ;)04:42
wheatthinI just wish people wouldn't get so uptight, they lose sight of any sort of mannors. It's alright to point out that I was wrong, which I admit, but to get blantently rude about it is uncalled for.04:43
cogwareI'm trying to count the number of lines that fs_usage outputs in a single second. Anyone know how I can do this?04:43
rypervencheasdfsd: I never encrypt my home folder, I always do my full disk.04:44
qin_wheatthin: chill?04:44
qin_cogware: command |wc -n04:44
wheatthinlike I said, it's not worth my time for others rudeness.04:45
qin_cogware: command |wc -l , sorry04:45
cogwareqin_: fs_usage provides a constant real-time stream of filesystem activity, so if I just pipe it to wc, it will keep on going forever04:46
undroidzguys, I need help setting up ubuntu 10.04 (32-bit) inside a chroot jail. I have 12.04 (amd64) as the host system and debootstrap isn't installing apt/aptitude on it. I followed the wiki for debootstrap.04:46
cogwareI need some way to terminate fs_usage after exactly 1 second, or to use grep or awk somehow to see when the timestamp switches over to the next second04:46
qin_cogware: well, strem to file, every 60 seconds replace log, count lines.04:47
wheatthinundroidz, ubuntu 10.04 is no longer supported04:47
cogwareI tried that, but in less than 1 second it produced a 13mb file. I think that 1 second could easily be 130mb or 1.3g. It doesn't scale04:47
qin_cogware: every 1 second...04:47
undroidzouch. yeah, just this april.04:47
asdfsdso no one got solution ?04:50
falkenMazemy computer boots and get to this point and freezes  http://i43.tinypic.com/df7xqe.png  fsck -f says the partition is fine, and I can chroot to the OS from a live cd, just can't boot.04:50
tomas_Hi04:50
tomas_I want04:50
tomas_Start the X04:51
falkenMazetomas_ startx04:51
twoeedHello.  I've got a bit of a firewall problem.04:51
qin_cogware: but is not fs_usage already time-stamped?04:51
tomas_falkenMaze: Ok i wll04:51
twoeedApparently, it's not iptables04:51
twoeedor, I'm just setting something wrong.04:51
qin_tomas_: or xinit (pute x server)04:51
cogwareIt is... I want to figure out how to count the number of items that occured in a given second, say 21:49:49, and count them efficiently (i.e. without writing a record of everything to disk, but rather process it as a stream w/o buffering)04:52
rypervenche!ask | tomas_ twoeed04:52
ubottutomas_ twoeed: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:52
qin_cogware: grep and wc04:52
wheatthintwoeed, ubuntu uses ufw by default, which might be easier than setting iptable commands04:52
Arobazhii04:52
cogwareOh that is a good idea. That will work04:52
cogwareThank you04:52
rypervencheerr, that was the wrong one. Please put your questions in one line so that it is easier for us to read :)04:52
Arobazhii04:52
Arobazneed help for grub systeme.04:53
wheatthin!help | Arobaz04:53
ubottuArobaz: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:53
Arobazi can't move on the ground grub.04:53
Arobaz!patience04:53
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/04:53
qin_!enter > rypervenche right one04:53
ubotturypervenche, please see my private message04:53
Arobaz!enter > qin_ help!04:53
ubottuqin_, please see my private message04:53
rypervencheqin_: Thanks :)04:53
twoeedwheatthin: Thanks, I'll look that up.  All my past firewall experience has been on CentOS.04:54
wheatthintwoeed, if you use a Gui.. install GUFW04:55
rypervenchetwoeed: You can disable ufw and use iptables if you are more comfortable with it.04:56
twoeedwheatthin: Unfortunately, I'm not.  DuckDuckGoing vfw says it's a video codec.  could you direct me to a site for it?04:56
twoeedryervenche: How?04:56
qin_!ufw04:56
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist.04:56
rypervencheDoes Ubuntu use systemd now?04:56
twoeedoh, ufw04:57
twoeedderp04:57
qin_rypervenche: http://tech.cueup.com/blog/2013/03/08/running-daemons/04:58
rypervencheqin_: I don't use Ubuntu, it was just so that I could answer twoeed's question :P04:59
Arobazhey there04:59
Arobazneed help04:59
Arobazsome soutient04:59
Arobazit is possible?04:59
rypervencheUn français. Yes, Arobaz we can help. Go ahead and ask your question.05:00
wheatthin!ask05:00
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:00
ArobazYes i'am ! rypervenche :p05:00
ArobazI can't startx ubuntu, when i start i have only terminal mode no graphics05:00
twoeedI disabled ufw and the problem still occurs.  Perhaps I should describe my problem in more detail.05:00
rypervencheArobaz: What kind of graphics card do you have? Is this a new installation?05:01
Arobazyesterday i did a update drivers.05:01
ArobazNVIDIA05:01
twoeedBasically, a friend and I are starting an irc channel for our server05:01
qin_rypervenche: upstart with some atavism of init05:01
twoeedWe are using ubuntu server edition.05:01
rypervencheqin_: Ah that's right, it uses upstart now. Thanks.05:01
twoeedWe got irc installed just fine.05:02
twoeed(we can connect to it locally)05:02
Arobazrypervenche, Nvidia drivers i have a message when a try to start the kenel and drivers have not the same version.05:02
twoeedbut it resets when I try to remotely.05:02
Arobazkernel *05:02
rypervencheArobaz: Yes, you'll need to have the module recompiled for your kernel.05:02
twoeedI at first thought the problem was iptables.05:02
rypervencheUmm...I don't know the command anymore for Ubuntu. Can someone help?05:02
qin_twoeed: pint one would be ircd config05:02
Arobazrypervenche, it's possible to do that on CD try ?05:03
twoeedwould it reset connections from foreign hosts by default?05:03
Arobazrypervenche, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile that ?05:04
rypervencheArobaz: No, let me see if I can find it for you. One sec.05:04
benbloomis defaults in the fstab just as a place saver for options? in otherwords, if I add some options, can I remove defaults as they are implied (unless counteracted by my options)?05:04
Arobazthanks you rypervenche :)05:04
seinGuys, I'm on LM and I tried installing unity but it's not showing up on my session list (I'd ask in the LM support channel, but it's dead atm)05:04
rypervencheArobaz: How did you install your Nvidia drivers?05:05
qin_twoeed: lets see: netstat -tulp (what does irc?)05:05
Arobazrypervenche,  automaticly05:05
rypervencheArobaz: Have you restarted the PC since the update?05:05
Arobazyes more than 5 time.05:05
twoeedIRC's on port 5001.  It shows up in a netstat.05:06
Arobazto try to access at my session.05:06
twoeedBut you are right.05:06
twoeedI tried a python server on an arbitrary port, and it was open by default.05:06
twoeedIt's not my firewall.05:06
rypervencheArobaz: What version of Ubuntu are you running?05:06
twoeedI'm using ircd-hybrid.05:07
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Arobazback.05:07
Arobazsorry rypervenche05:07
twoeedAnybody know what I should change in the config file?05:07
xanguaWhat is recomended to run java programs¿ openjdk6 or openjdk7¿05:08
qin_twoeed: what is "Local Address" of irc?05:08
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twoeedIt was 127.0.0.105:10
twoeedI changed it to the server's IP.05:10
qin_twoeed: bad, net address or ip in config05:10
twoeedI changed the conf ip to the server's net address.05:10
twoeedit was commented as "change this"05:11
qin_twoeed: hehe05:11
twoeedwell poop.05:12
twoeeddidn't work.05:12
twoeedI restarted the daemon and all05:12
wheatthintwoeed, net address or internal addy?05:12
twoeedThe server has one network connection which specifies its full net address.05:13
twoeedIt's not on a LAN.05:13
wheatthinahh ok.05:13
qin_twoeed: can you access irc on lan?05:14
twoeedServer is not on LAN, but I can access it from localhost.05:15
mastershakehey guys im having trouble killing a process , it keeps coming back05:15
mastershakei was told to use stop but im recieving errors that it cannot find said job to stop05:16
twoeeddamn, I hate config files.05:16
qin_twoeed: did you change anything in listen block of config?05:16
qin_mastershake: what process?05:16
mastershakedhclient05:17
twoeedyep.05:17
qin_twoeed: and what ip did you provide?05:18
twoeedThe server's ip on eth005:18
twoeedWhich is it's external ip05:18
Ben64is there any fingerprint recognition stuff for ubuntu? I got a laptop with a fingerprint scanner built in05:19
mastershakeqin_: any ideas?05:20
mastershakeanybody know how to kill a process and stop it from coming back?05:24
qin_mastershake: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1419803 but I do not get idea of killing it, since if you configured static network it should not bother you05:24
twoeedGot it.05:24
twoeedI forgot I wasn't root when I restarted the daemon.05:24
qin_twoeed: Really?05:24
falkenMazemy computer boots and get to this point and freezes  http://i43.tinypic.com/df7xqe.png  fsck -f says the partition is fine, and I can chroot to the OS from a live cd, just can't boot.05:24
twoeedIt was just the host thing.05:24
twoeedThanks for all the help.05:25
falkenMazemastershake first try kill -9 pid . if that fails, find the start command via ps and then grep -lir "command" / to find the file relaunching it.05:26
twoeedNow I've just got to finish editing the rest of that config file.05:26
twoeedsecuring my server and such.05:26
twoeedI took down so much firewall stuff troubleshooting this.05:27
tomas_My X don't start05:27
tomas_Somebody can help me?05:28
twoeedqin_: Just for reference, what is this "spoofing" about?05:28
tomas_Hello?05:29
falkenMazetwoeed becoming the secure person in a secure comm channel via a hacked id. like a mac address05:29
ItsMeLennydoes X have its own default theme in case the desktop environment has no theme?05:30
aeon-ltdItsMeLenny: yes05:30
ItsMeLennydo you know how i can get it?05:31
falkenMazeItsMeLenny windows uses the blue screen of death.05:31
ItsMeLennyand how i can uninstall every other theme05:31
ItsMeLennyfalkenMaze, lol05:31
twoeedfalkenMaze: Ok.  It just hides IPs, instead of showing them to everyone like on this channel?05:31
aeon-ltdItsMeLenny: you know it looks like crap right?05:31
qin_twoeed: it do not sound like anything good.05:31
falkenMazetwoeed I either pop out an id from you or force you to learn mine. Then I am authenticated.05:32
aeon-ltdItsMeLenny: http://boundarydevices.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/spaceballs-1024x576.png like this but ignore the windows and panel05:32
tomas_I look regenerate xorg.conf05:32
tomas_My file /etc/X11/xorg.conf is wrong05:33
qin_falkenMaze: spoofing is not really cloaking05:33
ItsMeLennyaeon-ltd, looks good05:33
falkenMazetwoeed ip spoofing it tricking the router dhcp05:33
aeon-ltdItsMeLenny: ok well it's on every system that has X installed you just need to select it or don't configure anything05:33
falkenMazeqin_ it's just gaining a secure communications channel.05:33
twoeedfalkenMaze: ah05:34
ItsMeLennyaeon-ltd, thanks, i think ive got it05:34
pingMultisystem won't recognize USB, have tried to of them, shows up in the device window, but when click confirm won't accept it, nautilus is installed05:35
qin_falkenMaze: no, it is man it the middle form of attack, and also mirroring method for servers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARP_spoofing05:35
ItsMeLennyaeon-ltd, except the colours seem to go to what the last theme had as it's main colours, is there a default set of colours?05:35
pingto of them= two of them05:35
ItsMeLennyaeon-ltd, for example if my last theme was ambiance all the buttons highlight as orange, where as if my last theme was oxygen my buttons highlight as blue (with an orange border for some reason)05:36
SuperLagYou can't unplug an unmounted SATA drive while the system is still booted, can you? (and not have issues)05:36
falkenMazeqin_ thats an ssl spoof, and you are gaining access to the ssl communications channel05:36
PepperoniPizzaSuperLag, sure you can as long as it isn't the boot drive05:36
aeon-ltdItsMeLenny: not sure on that, sounds like a bug05:37
PepperoniPizzaSuperLag, i'd make sure to unmount any partition on the drive that is mounted though05:37
SuperLagPepperoniPizza: and then plug in another SATA drive, and it'll just work?05:37
PepperoniPizzaor risk data corruption05:37
ItsMeLennyaeon-ltd, ah ok, no problems, although here is a massive problem, all my icons have gone to a generic page shape05:37
PepperoniPizzaSuperLag, yes, they even make hotswap bays for SATA drives05:37
SuperLagPepperoniPizza: unplugging my hard drive where my VMs reside, and plugging the optical drive back in.05:37
ItsMeLennyaeon-ltd, oh, fixed it >_< thanks for the help!! :)05:37
PepperoniPizzaSuperLag, sure you could do that05:38
SuperLagPepperoniPizza: right, but I don't think this is a hotswap bay. It's a ThinkPad W530 :)05:38
PepperoniPizzaSuperLag, I am a bit OCD my self about fooling with electronics while they are live with electricity though05:38
SuperLagPepperoniPizza: yeah.... good point05:38
PepperoniPizzaSuperLag, so it is a laptop ?05:38
aeon-ltdItsMeLenny: no problem, i didn't really do much though :)05:38
SuperLagPepperoniPizza: yes05:38
PepperoniPizzaSuperLag, so then, it only has one spot for an SATA hard drive, yes ?05:39
ItsMeLennyaeon-ltd, lol, you may not think so but you actually did :P05:39
SuperLagPepperoniPizza: I have 3 SATA drives in this thing. One where the drive normally goes. One where the optical normally goes, and an mSATA drive where you can also plug in a WWAN card. 1.1TB of usable space. 32GB of RAM, as well. :)05:40
PepperoniPizzaSuperLag, wow my desktop only has 16gb lol05:40
PepperoniPizzaSuperLag, yea, as long as the drive you are removing isn't being used / mounted it should be fine05:40
PepperoniPizzaSATA is 100% hot swappable05:41
SuperLagPepperoniPizza: / is on the primary SATA, ~ is on the mSATA, and VMs are on the third drive, which is mounted to ~/Documents/vmware/05:41
PepperoniPizzayea just unmount it first then05:41
SuperLagwow05:43
Arobazyeah05:44
SuperLagPepperoniPizza: the sky did not fall down05:44
SuperLagPepperoniPizza: dmesg did not show the system freaking out, either05:44
SuperLagand the CD works05:44
PepperoniPizzaof course05:44
PepperoniPizza;-)05:44
SuperLagnot that I'd make a *habit* of hot-plugging and unplugging stuff05:44
PepperoniPizzayea, I'm not a fan of it05:44
SuperLagbecause I'm similarly OCD that way... but I didn't want to reboot at this point05:45
PepperoniPizzait is fine in theory though05:45
PepperoniPizzaSuperLag, after you have done electrical work and blown chunks out of a metal screw driver you become more cautious about always unplugging power / discharging stuff ;-)05:46
Kuroshitais it possible to get 3d rendered games like tf2 working on ubuntu with the amd open source drivers?05:46
aeon-ltdKuroshita: is there a reason you can't just switch drivers to play games?05:47
KuroshitaNope, it's purely due to ease of management05:47
hillarymy cdrom cannot read cd/dvd ubuntu 12.0405:48
hillaryit stopped last week05:48
aeon-ltdhillary: does it work in other OSes?05:48
hillaryyes05:48
KuroshitaYou're going to want to ask a question hillary05:48
hillaryi mean it used to read but it just stopped reading05:49
makarafor xchat I have to provide the sound files it seems. Where can I find a library of appropriate sounds?05:49
wilee-nileemakara, You might like #xchat05:50
karlmhdownloaded the iso image and its 766 mb, i'm using ubuntu now but it looks like the app i have doesnt want to overburn05:51
aeon-ltdkarlmh: yeah it doesn't fit on cd05:51
makarawilee-nilee, thx05:52
PepperoniPizzakarlmh, do you have a usb drive ?05:52
Johnny_Linuxput it on a thumb drive05:52
aeon-ltdit'd be awesome if you could load the iso + bootloader into ram then reboot immediately into a linux enviro; too bad there are too many security risks05:53
hillaryaeon-ltd yes it work in other oses05:53
demiugrПацаны, я у вас поинтересуюсь? На винде был нормальный как бы скользящий тачпад synaptics, короче такой курсор как бы скользил по экрану. Поставил ubuntu - вроде ничего, но тачпад - параша! С каких настроек спрос взять? Где их сыскать? Может нада какое05:53
aeon-ltd!russian05:54
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.05:54
cfhowlettaeon-ltd, is THAT what it is?05:54
aeon-ltdcfhowlett: what?05:54
aeon-ltdis it ukrainian?05:54
utfans05maybe russian?05:54
utfans05looks kinda russian...05:55
cfhowlettaeon-ltd, I only see random glyphs so can't make out any kind of language ...05:55
demiugrФигня выходит, пацанчики05:55
demiugr#ubuntu-ru Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services05:55
hillaryis it hardware issue or a command interfearance by myself?05:55
utfans05nvm hes paskanstani05:55
aeon-ltdheh how are we going to do the register factoid in russian but in the english channel?05:55
utfans05Guys, I take an interest in you? On Windows as it was a normal sliding touchpad synaptics, shorter than a mouse as it slid across the screen. Put ubuntu - like anything, but the touchpad - stool! Since when setting demand to take? Where to find them? What can nada05:56
demiugrКароче к нашим петушкам не попасть05:56
utfans05that was his original question05:56
demiugrгудбай товарищи буржуи05:56
utfans05adios05:56
spyderwhat pkg or method is used in ubuntu for bash completion?05:57
utfans05spyder: it should be there by default05:57
aeon-ltdhillary: i have no idea except watch 'dmesg' when you insert a cd05:58
aeon-ltdthough i'm not even sure if dmesg works that way05:58
spyderutfans05: i am on another distro in another system and i want to use same bash completion in it05:58
hillaryThe cd is rotating and the light is flickering but not output05:59
utfans05spyder: which os?05:59
spyderutfans05: gentoo05:59
utfans05spyder: you may want to ask in the gentoo channel.06:00
utfans05#gentoo06:00
karlmhPepperoniPizza: looks like using cdrskin with -dao -force might just work ;)06:00
karlmhoverburnning is actually pretty common06:00
PepperoniPizzakarlmh, yea, it doesn't always work though06:00
guest_____whats analogs http://cfos.de having in ubuntu?(most usuable gui traffic control and shaping)06:01
spyderutfans05: i know that i asked there and tried the suggestiond but did not get the completion where even second command in chain can be tab completed06:01
spydereg torsocks midori06:01
cristian_cHi06:01
spyderand midori can be tab completed06:01
utfans05spyder: hold on one sec, imma ask my friend who is really good at gentoo06:01
cristian_cI can't hear sound form speakers/headphone anymore06:02
cristian_c12.04 precise06:02
spyderutfans05: ok06:02
cristian_cAny ideas?06:02
guest_____whats analogs http://cfos.de having in ubuntu?(most usuable gui traffic control and shaping)06:03
utfans05spyder: just sent him your question. give him a few, hes messing around with some python scripting so it may be a few minutes.06:03
spyderutfans05: thanks06:03
utfans05guest_____: i dont understand what you're looking for.06:03
guest_____whats analog http://cfos.de exists in ubuntu?(most usuable gui traffic control and shaping)06:04
utfans05guest_____: i dont quite understand what your looking for. can you give us more details?06:05
utfans05are you looking for a graphical display of your network traffic? if so try conky06:05
guest_____go to this website please, i,m find alternative for linux06:06
karlmhbbl06:06
guest_____http://cfos.de06:06
utfans05i looked at it and it looks like you're looking for a graphical network traffic tool06:07
utfans05well... not really;.06:07
guest_____yes06:07
utfans05ok so your looking for graphical traffic display and not traffic shaping tool?06:07
utfans05spyder: try bash-completing06:08
utfans05spyder: try bash-completion06:08
guest_____utfans, thank you, i think it(traffic control and shaping) no exesist in gui, thanks for conky06:10
guest_____no exists fo linux06:10
SuperLagPepperoniPizza: excellent. Worked like a charm.06:11
utfans05guest_____: yeah im unsure if you can do traffic shaping in linux. id have to do some research but conky is really customizable and you can do a ton of monitoring with it.06:11
SuperLagPepperoniPizza: so... sound stuff. Is there a way to return the sound settings in Xubuntu to the defaults that were there on install?06:11
utfans05cpu, ram, swap, temps, network traffic. almost anything you want06:11
PepperoniPizzaSuperLag, what do you mean exactly06:11
SuperLagPepperoniPizza: what source is used where, default volume levels... stuff like that06:12
SuperLagPepperoniPizza: experienced something tonight, and foolishly went monkeying with multiple settings at once06:12
spyderutfans05: ty06:13
SuperLagthings still work... but I want to make sure everything is put back how it was06:13
utfans05spyder: your welcom06:13
coolstarwhere can I get arm-elf-gcc for ubuntu?06:13
PepperoniPizzaSuperLag, well you can use pavucontrol or alsamixer06:14
SuperLagPepperoniPizza: alsamixer is what I used to adjust, so I'm familiar with it... but I'm not sure what all the defaults were06:14
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hillarywhat command do i use to mount cd in ubuntu 12.0406:14
SuperLaghillary: mount06:15
PepperoniPizzaSuperLag, well if everything works06:15
SuperLaghillary: ironically enough :)06:15
hillary SuperLag am lost!06:16
utfans05hillary: sudo mount /dev/sr0 /cdrom06:17
shutup?06:17
utfans05where sr0 is your cdrom06:18
SuperLaghillary: I'd be very surprised if it didn't automatically mount06:18
afflictoIs there a place/app to find extensions/plugins for Unity ? Like gnome-extensions. I'd like to have weather info at the top panel and maybe memory usage etc.06:24
lotuspsychjeafflicto: you mean like indicators?06:25
lotuspsychje!info indicator-multiload | afflicto06:27
ubottuafflicto: indicator-multiload (source: indicator-multiload): Graphical system load indicator for CPU, ram, etc.. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 179 kB, installed size 1398 kB06:27
lotuspsychjeafflicto: apt-cache search indicator (from terminal) for more cool indicators06:28
utfans05spyder: did that work out for you?06:29
afflictoCool, thanks guys.06:33
lotuspsychjeafflicto: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/list-of-22-application-indicators-for.html06:34
DarkFoxHow exactly is wubi working? Anyone here worked on it's source code? — It would seem to be an altered mbr for one.06:34
DarkFox( I know it's not supported anymore but I'm not asking here for ubuntu support but rather loopback booting support )06:35
utfans05DarkFox: from what i understand wubi has been discontinued.06:35
DarkFoxvirtual hard disk06:35
mumpitze1wubi needs altered bootloader, linux initrd and a big file instead of a partition for ubuntu06:35
DarkFoxutfans05: Indeed but support should still be there for the concepts behind it06:36
lotuspsychje!wubi | Darkfox06:36
ubottuDarkfox: Wubi allows you to install or uninstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from within Windows ( version 7 or earlier ) in a simple and safe way. Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for more information. File wubi bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug06:36
DarkFoxIncompatible with UEFI my arse, it would work if someone applied the time.06:36
lotuspsychje!language | DarkFox06:37
ubottuDarkFox: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.06:37
lotuspsychjeDarkfox: check this link for other ways then wubi: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows06:38
spyderutfans05: did not work i think i have to re-login for it to work let me check06:38
DarkFoxmumpitze1: I am aware it does this. However, I'm trying to copy the concept for archlinux with an encrypted partition for the root and ... C:\archlinux\disks\{archlinux.vhd,swap.img}. Very similar case as with wubi's C:\ubuntu\disks\{root,swap}.img and instead of using the linux kernel on the root partition it's on it's /boot as a part of the partitioned virtual disk.06:39
spyderutfans05: did not work06:39
DarkFoxlotuspsychje: What I want (and kinda need) is to boot arch from a virtual hard disk. This concept for booting a loopback disk is heavily similar to how wubi is working. I'm just using one disk for two partitions.06:40
lotuspsychjeDarkFox: this is an ubuntu support channel mate06:40
DarkFoxlosetup -f archlinux.vhd; partx /dev/loop0 and I've got access for each partition.06:41
DarkFoxlotuspsychje: I'm not asking for ubuntu nor arch support. I am asking for wubi concept06:41
DarkFoxDown to the level of using it for my arch.vhd06:41
wheatthinlol06:41
DarkFoxAnd I'll be sharing the minimal concept so anyone can do this06:41
Jordan_UDarkFox: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.06:41
spyderutfans05: it works for some things but not all06:42
DarkFoxJordan_U: Wubi is ubuntu06:42
utfans05what extra stuff are you looking for?06:42
wheatthinnot it's conceptual interpretation, it isn't06:42
DarkFoxwubi may be discontinued but there has to be someone who I can talk to for it06:42
Jordan_UDarkFox: But you're not asking for Wubi support.06:42
Jordan_UDarkFox: Try #ubuntu-offtopic.06:42
DarkFoxJordan_U: I am asking for wubi support. Although talking to it's developers would be far more useful06:43
wheatthin!ails06:43
wheatthinhmm must have gotten it wrong06:44
Jordan_UDarkFox: You are not asking for Wubi support, and the general consenses for Wubi support in this channel has always been pretty much "Don't use Wubi", even before it was discontinued. Try #ubuntu-offtopic.06:44
DarkFoxThis is a support channel, sure it may be targeted for ubuntu as of current. But no general linux support with the tools that you offer?06:44
lotuspsychje!factoids > wheatthin06:44
ubottuwheatthin, please see my private message06:44
Jordan_UDarkFox: This is your last warning, please stop the offtopic discussion.06:45
DarkFoxJordan_U: "Don't use wubi" I'm not trying to use it, I have it working for ubuntu. Just trying to port to other systems06:45
DarkFoxfine06:45
DartSmjkfuEhi all06:45
lotuspsychjeDartSmjkfuE: hey mate, what can we do for you?06:46
LongCatTHfree coupon for codeschool, first come first serve :) http://go.codeschool.com/yp6ONw06:47
Nmbr1DarkFox: i as well would suggest not using wubi, but if you feel the need send me a pm and i'll see if i can help06:48
lotuspsychjeJordan_U: LongCatTH has been pasting urls like this for few days06:48
Jordan_Ulotuspsychje: Thanks for the heads up.06:48
lotuspsychjeJordan_U: np06:48
lotuspsychjeis it possible to completly hide a user from /home and useraccounts?06:50
Nmbr1lotuspsychje: do you also want it hidden from "users"?06:51
lotuspsychjeNmbr1: if its possible yes, or if there's a way to hide useraccounts for other users then root06:52
SwedeMikelotuspsychje: look into grsec and alike ,it'll hide user processes etc from other users06:53
SwedeMikelotuspsychje: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/selinux-vs-apparmor-vs-grsecurity.html06:54
lotuspsychjeSwedeMike: tnx, will that hide the /home/someuser too?06:54
SwedeMikelotuspsychje: I don't know the detail, I believe you can hide everything outside the user dir, but I'm not sure. you have to look it up.06:55
lizgis it possible to redir /home and /usr  with other partitions?06:55
mumpitze1lizg: yes06:56
SuperLaglizg: thankfully, yes :)06:57
SuperLaglizg: it's how I've kept my ~ intact over multiple Linux installs06:57
lizgcan you teach me how to do?06:57
vnwildmanlizg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving06:57
SuperLaglizg: what vnwildman said ^^^06:58
lizgthank you06:58
lotuspsychje!info sux | Nmbr106:59
ubottuNmbr1: sux (source: sux): wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-6 (raring), package size 9 kB, installed size 64 kB06:59
Nmbr1lotuspsychje: thx07:00
BlackFlagHey! Does someone knows if "dumpes2fs" works with partition reiserfs?07:01
SwedeMikeBlackFlag: no.07:02
lotuspsychjeSwedeMike: tnx for info ill look it up :p07:02
vnwildmanBlackFlag: use partclone07:03
BlackFlagSwedeMike, Thank you!07:03
BlackFlagvnwildman, Thanks!07:03
BlackFlagNeither works with swap partition?07:04
Jordan_UBlackFlag: What is your end goal?07:04
Jordan_UBlackFlag: Doing bit for bit copies of active filesystems / swap is inherently unreliable.07:05
BlackFlagI want to see the if it has bad blocks, Jordan_U07:05
Jordan_UBlackFlag: dumpe2fs is not a tool for finding bad blocks.07:06
SwedeMikeBlackFlag: use the "badblocks" untility.07:07
Jordan_UBlackFlag: The simplest way to check a drive for bad sectors is to check the S.M.A.R.T data, which you can do via GNOME Disks or smartctl.07:07
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SwedeMikeBlackFlag: also what Jordan_U said. apt-get install smartmontools ; smartctl -a /dev/sdwhatever07:08
BlackFlagThank you, SwedeMike and Jordan_U07:08
Jordan_UBlackFlag: You're welcome.07:08
vnwildmanBlackFlag: You can check file system first: reiserfsck --check /dev/sdwhatever07:13
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DarwinSurvivor\q07:29
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gloweHey all. I have a problem with my usb dongle (mobile internet)! LSUSB finds a huawei usb dongle but it wont connect to internet07:38
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coolstarglowe: sounds like you need drivers07:39
gloweyea i think so07:39
gloweThe device is Huawei E175007:39
gloweDo you know the proper drivers?07:39
coolstarglowe: Ubuntu should find them automatically if they're on the default repos07:40
coolstarglowe: plug into Ethernet and have it check07:40
gloweim on wifi now07:40
varunendraglowe, is it a 3g modem?07:41
glowewhat should i do? Im new to this07:41
gloweyea07:41
gloweit is07:41
lotuspsychjeglowe: i think huawei devices should be recognized automaticly07:41
varunendraglowe, please show us the lsusb output line pertaining to it.07:42
lotuspsychjeglowe: did you activate the sim card inside?07:42
Jordan_Uglowe: How did you try to connect using the 3G modem?07:42
TREE1HI FREND IN MY UBUNTU WIRED CONNECTION DOESNOT ALLOW WEB BROWSING TORRENT IS ONLY WORKING ANY IDEA??07:42
glowewith the set up a new connection buttom07:43
gloweCant see my device in the list and when i enter it manually it wont connect07:43
sm0xhey guys, is in the actual daily-build of saucy "Mir" already included ?07:43
gloweHuawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E1552/E1800/E173 (HSPA modem)07:43
gloweThats what lsusb gives07:43
Jordan_UTREE1: Drop the caps lock please.07:43
TREE1ok07:44
Jordan_Usm0x: #ubuntu+1 for Saucy.07:44
varunendraglowe, the full line (it should show a pair of four digit number like [abcd:pqrs])07:44
gloweHuawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E1552/E1800/E173 (HSPA modem)07:44
gloweoh07:44
sm0xJordan_U: thx07:44
glowesorry07:44
glowesec07:44
FloodBot1glowe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:44
Jordan_Usm0x: You're welcome.07:45
Akumahello, I installed ubuntu server 13.04 and then installed the ubuntu-desktop on top of it. Now I'm having an issue where the network manager (icon on top next to the volume) doesn't seem to recognize there is a network connection07:45
superdohi07:45
Akumawhen I click on it it says "Ethernet  Network device not managed"07:45
Jordan_Uglowe: What list are you looking at? How are you "entering it manually"?07:45
TREE1hi can any body help me out in finding network connection problem wired connection doesnt allow web browsing torrent is only working07:45
Akumamy network works fine  though, ifconfig shows my device07:46
bazhang!repeat | TREE107:46
ubottuTREE1: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/07:46
superdoarticles suggest setting umask to 0002 for apache , in login.defs are now 022. can I overwrite this?07:46
ItsMeLennyyou know how when a program is fullscreen, the menu goes into the top bar07:46
Jordan_UAkuma: Make sure that any interfaces that you want managed by network-managers are not configured in /etc/network/interfaces .07:46
gloweBus 003 Device 002: ID 12d1:1446 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E1552/E1800/E173 (HSPA modem)07:47
varunendraTREE1, if the torrent is working on the same connection, then check your browser settings, try setting the DNS to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 etc. May be stop the torrent as it may be using up all the bandwidth.07:47
AkumaJordan_U: do I comment all the lines out if there are entries?07:47
AkumaJordan_U: eth0 is in /etc/network/interfaces07:48
TREE1ok07:48
Jordan_UAkuma: Just comment out ethX and wlanX entries, leave any lo entry.07:48
gloweJordan_U I go to the wifi symbol on the right and then add a new connection and choose mobile broadband07:48
TREE1<varurendra> but this problem does not occur in wireless07:49
AkumaJordan_U: do I need to restart the network manager service  ? (how do would I do that?)07:49
Jordan_UAkuma: I don't know.07:49
varunendraglowe, that device is not supported here on my 12.04. Does "modinfo option | grep 1446" return any output on yours?07:50
AkumaI'll try restarting the box. Thanks for the help. Greatly appreciated07:50
glowevarunendra Nothing happens. im on 13.04 right now07:51
varunendraglowe, it means that modem is not natively supported by the driver "option" that is used for these devices. You may try to 'Force' bind your device with it though. One of the few possible methods is this post (#11) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1969322&p=11899627#post1189962707:53
glowebrb07:54
gloweback again07:56
energizer1My computer just went to black screen with ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ in the top left corner, and wont respond to anything within ctrl+alt+F7 mode08:03
Jordan_Uenergizer1: Are you running an ssh server on this machine?08:03
energizer1ya, but i dont think anything's accessing it atm08:03
Jordan_Uenergizer1: Can you log in from another machine and try to look at logs or at least reboot cleanly?08:04
energizer1i can use ctrl+alt+f1 for a command line if that works also?08:05
energizer1which log would i want to look at08:05
gloweHey again08:06
glowei did now try to bind it but with no success08:06
energizer1Jordan_U: im in tty1-- where should i navigate to08:06
Jordan_Uenergizer1: /var/log/Xorg.0.log for one. You can also completely restart X with "sudo service lightdm restart".08:06
energizer1Jordan_U what am i looking for in Xorg.008:07
energizer1(first off, is the top or bottom most recent?)08:08
Jordan_Uenergizer1: Lines starting with EE: are error messages, the bottom is most recent (error messages are always appended to the end of log files).08:08
* wheatthin will brb08:08
energizer1Jordan_U will it be helpful for me to copy the last 20 lines or so?08:10
Jordan_Uenergizer1: You could post them via a link with http://pastebin.ubuntu.com , yes.08:11
gloweSeems like im stuck on the same problem08:11
gloweJordan_U08:15
energizerJordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/5873459/08:15
gloweAre you there? When i try to set up the connection on network manager i cant select my usb dongle which indicate that it isnt recognized?08:15
gloweWill modprobe usbserial vendor=0x1c9e product=0x9605 do any good?08:15
lordgodhello08:18
varunendraglowe, that's worth trying. You may also try your luck on usb_modeswitch forums : http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=133608:18
Jordan_Uenergizer: It doesn't look like any signifigant errors were logged. Have you tried just ctlrl+alt+F8 or F9 ?08:19
varunendraglowe, by the way, your ID isn't same though as that example you posted above08:19
mosesok i have a problem08:20
diverdudeHello, what does it actually mean if i append this line:      -      rtprio      99    To   /etc/security/limits.conf ?08:21
varunendraglowe, vendor id with 12d1, and product id with 1446 in the modprobe usb_serial command.08:21
energizerJordan_U i restarted lightdm as you suggested and everything works now, but id like to get a handle on what just happened. C.A.F8 just brings blinking underscore.08:21
gloweyea08:21
glowetried and replugged the usb modem but with no success08:21
gloweStill cant select it on the netowork manager08:21
mosesI have this directory that I want to let all users read write and execute, I want every file created in this directory to have these permissions for all personell that use this directory weather to run a program, anything.  Is this possible?08:21
Jordan_Uenergizer: Did you try ctrl+alt+F8 before restarting lightdm?08:22
energizertoo late08:23
varunendraglowe, tried the modprobe command AFTER plugging in? Unload the usb_serial driver first : sudo modprobe -rfv usb_serial08:23
friluftsfan#NUUG08:24
gloweI did the command with the usb plugged08:27
glowemathias@ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe -rfv usb_serial08:27
glowe[sudo] password for mathias:08:27
gloweFATAL: Module usb_serial not found.08:27
varunendraglowe, sorry, that was "usbserial"08:31
lordgodhello08:34
gloweI need to go now but thanks everyone for your help!08:35
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ns7Where are the pgp keys stored in ubuntu?08:46
Phosphateq08:47
coolstarns7: check ~/.gpg08:50
ns7ty08:52
fzguhhello I've got some problems updating my Applications it claims that it dosen't find some pages (404) has any one an idea?08:55
mac-hey09:03
mac-what is the current state of ubuntu for smartphones ?09:03
stack3457 how can I upgrade akonadi and kdepimlibs from 4.10 version to 4.11 ?.I am using kubuntu 12.0409:16
diverdudeif i do this: /sbin/ifconfig  eth0 mtu 8192  i change mtu, but as soon the system is restarted this mtu change is reset to default. How do i enable this so its persistent?09:18
honvaiWhat do I have to do that you will give me gains root access to your device?09:19
mac-strange silnce in here ...09:20
mac-I would expect crowded channel because its about the most popular Linux in the world09:21
mac-even my mom uses Ubuntu09:21
bekksdiverdude: An MTU of 8192 is -- non.default. Do you have a specific reason for not using the default jumbo packet size of 9000?09:21
holywood#help09:22
bekks!details | holywood09:22
ubottuholywood: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:22
holywoodsorry/ it's typo09:23
diverdudebekks, i think default is 1500 actually09:23
holywoodi should have typed the slash. :)09:23
decafhi. I can't suspend or hibernate my system. I've had this problem before. suspending process actually works but at the end it can't give motherboard the right order09:24
decafrestarts instead of powering off09:24
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stack3457 how can I upgrade 4.10 kde version to 4.10 in kubuntu 12.04??09:25
decafstack3457: I don't get it. please check 'versions' in your sentence09:28
SarcasticI'm having some difficulties with setting screen resolution with xorg.conf09:33
SarcasticCan anyone see why my screen resolution isn't changing: http://pastebin.com/ZvRyCRj809:34
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Sarcastic_Can anyone see anything wrong in this? http://pastebin.com/ZvRyCRj809:41
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xormormy xubuntu is working well.10:00
JoschiiHosianna!10:00
xormorLinux laptoppi-HP-G62-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:46:08 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux10:00
xormorHosianna Son of David, holy be His name.10:00
xormorJoschii: it's not Christmas, it is summer.10:01
cfhowlett!ot10:01
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:01
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SaxXhi all10:08
cfhowlettSaxX, greetings10:09
SaxXanybody knows how to solve /dev/vide0 is busy10:09
SaxXhi cfhowlett10:09
cfhowlettSaxX, sorry, I can't help with that one10:10
SaxXdon't worry cfhowlett :)10:11
kgalahassahi, how to reduce luminosity completely and keep it like that each time, even at booting,   on ubuntu 12.1010:13
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kgalahassahi, how to reduce luminosity completely and keep it like that each time, even at booting,   on ubuntu 12.1010:19
varunendrakgalahassa, you mean screen brightness?10:20
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kgalahassavarunendra, yes10:25
varunendrakgalahassa, I have added this line to my "/etc/rc.local" file (without quotes) : "echo 0 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness"10:26
varunendrathe device "acpi_video0/" and the value "0" may differ in your case.10:26
kgalahassaoky, varunendra, let me a minute i will try too10:27
varunendrakgalahassa, if you try this, make sure the "rc.local" file ends with "exit 0" line. That means, insert your line above it.10:28
kgalahassaoky varunendra10:28
mm122hi all10:28
mm122first time iam using ubuntu.,,where do i repository10:28
varunendramm122, are you trying to install an application?10:29
mm122yeh10:29
varunendraare you connected to internet?10:29
varunendraapparently not ;)10:30
SaxX:)10:30
sneexI would like to talk about and troubleshoot Citrix XenApp remote desktop -- My Citrix Remote desktop is timing before I can finish connecting -- what settings control that?10:34
sneextiming out10:34
ikoniasneex what is the package name that contains this client ?10:34
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kgalahassavarunendra, i've down it, but i'm doing something on my computer, after restarting, i will let a msg to informe u.thks10:35
varunendranp :)10:35
sneexikonia: There isn't an official one but Ubuntu discusses it in too much generality  the Citrix name is  CitrixReceiverWeb10:37
ikoniasneex so where did you get it from if there isn a package10:37
sneexI got it from Citrix based upon finding that there was a Untuntu version (based on Ubuntu forums) -- I would like to extend those discussion or ask that Unbuntu stop discribing thing they really dont want to support -- it is aggravting to me and hurts others10:39
ikoniasneex what???10:40
ikoniasneex: are you using an ubuntu package yes/no ?10:40
sneexikonia: that answer is no BUT I went down this path because I saw Unbuntu talking about it in the forum - hence I am here to further discuss it10:41
ikoniasneex: someone talking about it on ubuntu doesn't make it anything to do with ubuntu10:41
ikoniasneex: you're best bet is to try the cytrix channels/forums or use the cytrix support services10:41
sneexyes, unfortunately that I understand -- one of the draw backs of Linux in general10:42
ikoniait's nothing to do with linux10:42
Guest91591sneex: do you complain to your butcher when your bread is stale?10:42
ikoniayou're using a product provided by a comercial vendor, the obvious support choice would be the comercial vendor that makes that package, no matter what OS it's on10:43
sneexIt is in that developers can't actually write Linux apps -- but thx any ways; I will muddle along10:43
ikoniasneex: there are many linux apps - please stop trying to be rude about things, you've chosen a comercial product with comercial support,10:43
ikoniathat is your choice.10:44
CC12hey all10:44
Guest91591hello CC1210:44
CC12is ubuntu better then windows 8?10:44
CC12hello Guest9159110:44
ikoniaCC12: it comes down to personal choice, only you can make up your mind10:44
ikoniaCC12: you'll need to do a little bit of research on both to see which looks like it meets your needs best10:44
CC12iam worried if i install ubuntu it might erase my data10:44
Guest91591CC12: depends on what you want to use it for and your personal preferences. For me: hell yes.10:44
ikoniaCC12: there is a risk if you make a mistake at install time it can cause data loss10:45
ikoniaCC12: if you want to install it, go slow, read the on screen information and if anything is unclear, ask in the support resources, here/forum/mail lists etc10:45
lotuspsychjeCC12: if you like safety and stability, ubuntu would make a great choice10:45
MonkeyDustCC12  try a live session, first, to get familiar with it10:45
ikoniawindows 8 is no more/less supported/stable/secure10:45
ikoniaI'd advise you to check your hardware for compatability with linux too10:46
CC12ive got 2 drives one ssd 256 corsair...and one 1.5 terra i want to install it on 1.5 terra10:46
ikoniaCC12: that's fine, that's doable10:46
CC12yeah is my graphics card compatible10:46
ikoniayou'll need to resarch that10:46
CC12ive got a gigabyte 7970 ultra durable10:46
CC123gb10:46
ikoniayou'll need to resarch that10:47
CC12ill think ill back up  everthing just in case10:47
ikoniaa wise move10:47
CC12how long does it take to install10:48
ikoniadepends on a few things10:48
CC12is there a skype on ubuntu10:49
ikoniaabout the same time as a windows install (use that as your benchmark)10:49
ikoniaCC12: yes, skype is availabe10:49
MonkeyDustCC12  15 minutes or so, but first try a live cd or usb10:49
ikoniaavailable even10:49
CC12wow nice10:49
ikoniaMonkeyDust: he's on a livecd  now10:49
MonkeyDusto10:49
MonkeyDustk10:49
CC12yeah iam on live cd right nowe10:49
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CC12wow love the desktop background choices10:51
afflictoI'm using gnome shell. What's the panel at the bottom called?10:51
ikoniaafflicto: there isn't one10:52
lotuspsychjeCC12: im using ubuntu 13.04 64bit on an ssd and it goes rocketfast10:52
CC12wow its even got workspaces unreal very nice MonkeyDust10:52
ikoniaafflicto: the dock has been removed10:52
CC12hmm this is fast wow10:55
CC12can i use any other browser part from firefox?10:56
ikoniaCC12: there are others available, yes10:57
CC12how good is the firewall on ubuntu10:57
ikoniaexcellent10:57
CC12do i need any antivirus programs10:57
ikoniano10:57
JasMay#irchelp10:57
CC12no??10:58
ikoniacorrect, no10:58
CC12why is that.10:58
ikoniathe OS works different10:58
CC12i paid like top dollars for windows 8 lol10:58
sneexCC12: viruses in Ubuntu is some what different than Windows10:58
kimirI'm using GNOME with ubuntu 13.04. I want close, minimize and maximize buttons on left side of screen. in gconf editor (org/gnome/desktop/wm/preferences) i set button-layout to close,minimize,maximize: but it has no effect: all I have is close button and on right side. How can I fix that?10:58
ikoniaCC12: windows 8 has microsoft security essentials for free - so not sure why you paid for anything10:59
CC12nah didnt like that one10:59
wzooffhi. i have trouble with cups. in web interface i see dublicates of all elements10:59
nibbler_kimir: instead of minimize you can middle-click the top-bar to send it to background11:01
kimirnibbler_: there is no middle click on laptop :)11:01
nibbler_kimir: simoultanious left+right11:02
kimirnibbler_: Doesn't work. my touchpad is weird, won't let me hit both buttons (they are actually one button)11:03
varunendrakimir, gconf editor? Those settings have been moved over to "dconf editor"11:03
CC12cool thanks if i need anything ill be back11:03
kimirYeah its dconf** varunendra11:03
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varunendrakimir, you may have to log out --> log in again for the settings to take effect.11:05
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AfyonAhmetselamm11:05
kimirrelogging doesn't help11:07
quazimodoubuntu installed a driver for my Alsp dualpoint stick, I'm trying to find the actual driver. Any one know where it'll be?11:08
ikoniaquazimodo: how did it install it, was it a kernel module or an X11 driver ?11:09
quazimodoikonia: I'm not certain, that's why I'm lost a bit11:09
ikoniaquazimodo: how did you install it ?11:09
quazimodoikonia: installed by default11:09
quazimodoubuntud id it11:09
ikoniaquazimodo: what do you mean installed by default11:09
ikoniaquazimodo: ubuntu doesn't just install drivers....11:10
varunendrakimir, I'm using Unity, and the preferences location and the sequence you tried is correct for that though. Perhaps the settings for Gnome 3 (??) are stored somewhere else.. can't say as I've never used it.11:10
ikoniaquazimodo: do you mean it was part of the default install ?11:10
quazimodoyup11:10
ikoniaquazimodo: why does it's location matter, what are you trying to do ?11:10
ikoniait may help explain if it's a kernel or Xorg driver you're looking for11:10
quazimodoikonia: exactly... and I'm trying to figure that out but I don't actually know how to query the device node, and i don't know where else to look tbh11:11
ikoniaquazimodo: what are you trying to do ?11:11
quazimodoikonia: i want to modify the behavior of the device slightly, I don't kno whether to do it in userland or in the kernel driver (if it's a kernel driver) but essentially I want to grab the raw input before the driver applies acceleration/deceleration11:12
ikoniaquazimodo: how do you plan to modify this ?11:13
quazimodoikonia: don't know yet, I don't know enough yet!11:13
quazimodothats why i'm trying to find its driver11:13
ikoniaquazimodo: the location of it's driver is not going to help, as it will either be a kernel module or an Xorg module, which will be a compiled binary11:13
quazimodo/sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input10/device/driver in there i can cat description, it says PS/2 Mouse Driver11:13
ikoniaquazimodo: that's referencing a kernel module11:14
quazimodoikonia: so the PS/2 Mouse Driver itself knows how to handle the Alps DualPoint Stick ?11:14
foolcoolHey guys, what is the best linux ditrobution for performing unattended, automated installations pre-configured to have specific software installed?11:14
ikoniaquazimodo: I suspect that's being used as the input device, and then something like xorg maybe used to map it's function11:14
foolcoolAnd how hard would it to be to configure the install to mirror the desktop on an external monitor when one is plugged in without any input or configuration from the user whatsoever11:15
ikoniaquazimodo: from a dumb point of view, it's just a pointing control device11:15
quazimodoikonia: via evdev?11:15
ikoniaquazimodo: this maybe an interesting read for you, I strongly suggest you don't actually follow this blind, but it's interesting reading http://www.micropctalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6244711:16
MonkeyDustfoolcool  this channel is foor ubuntu support only, better ask in ##linux or so11:16
varunendraquazimodo, does the device show up in the output of "xinput" ?11:16
quazimodovarunendra: yep11:17
zipyhey ikonia, did u find sth out about gpt and lvm cant be used on whole disk without a partition in it?11:17
varunendraquazimodo, you can set most of the options with the xinput command itself.11:17
quazimodovarunendra: I'm getting the impression that the PS/2 Mouse Driver is grabbing the input as a generic pointing device, then something in X is picking it up and identifying it as a DualPoint Stick and going on11:17
quazimodovarunendra: it doesn't have the capabilities I want, I think11:18
varunendraquazimodo, so what do you want to do with the driver?11:18
kimirHow can I make a shell script run after returning from suspend (when laptop lid is raised)?11:19
lost_and_unfoundgreetings, I am playing with udev rule, I want to copy files from USB to local disk (done) and once completed then open nautilus, however, seems like running the command as root it does not have access to X(unity) to open the display. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this ?11:19
lost_and_unfoundthanks is advance11:19
ikonialost_and_unfound: how are you trying to run nautlius as root11:19
kimirlost_and_unfound: gksudo should let you do it?11:20
lost_and_unfound^^ i have also tried with 'su user -c "nautilus"11:20
quazimodovarunendra: the driver, i was going to read to understand what's going on. then I was going to figure out the next step, stopping X from getting the data, grabbing it with my own program and then registering a new device that gives X the new events11:20
ikonialost_and_unfound: you can't do that11:20
lost_and_unfoundpffft...11:20
ikonialost_and_unfound: you need to use gksudo as the user you are now11:20
lost_and_unfoundand the gksu suggestion ?11:20
ikoniawhat ?11:20
lost_and_unfoundah.. lemme try didn't think about gksu11:20
lost_and_unfoundok.. be right back..11:20
kimir:)11:20
varunendrakimir, place the script in /etc/pm/sleep.d directory as per norms. Ask here if you don't know the norms.11:21
varunendraquazimodo, the default ps/2 mouse driver is "psmouse" by the way. You can get information about any driver (its location, available parameters, etc.) with "modinfo <driver name>"11:22
lost_and_unfoundikonia: kimir: no luck with gksu, can I pastebin you the details ?11:22
ikonialost_and_unfound: put it in a pastebin sure11:22
kimirvarunendra: I don't know the norms. Is there a manual?11:22
quazimodovarunendra: do you think my plan is sound?11:23
BluesKajHiyas all11:23
lost_and_unfoundikonia: http://pastebin.com/NaTKy4i711:24
varunendraquazimodo, tbh, I don't understand most part of your plan at all. lol !11:24
quazimodovarunendra: the dualpoint stick's acceleration and speed profile sucks, i want to add my own, also soft snap it to x and y lines11:26
quazimodomake ti easier to use11:26
diverdudemy wifi is veryunstable. i am using a usb wifi dongle (i tried 2 different types) machine is unstable with both.....and both should by linux compliant. wifi is verystable on other computers. Im running ubuntu1204. what is the problem?11:26
varunendrakimir, not many rules, just make sure the name of the script starts with a number like 20, 40 etc, there should be no blank spaces in its name and only alphanumeric chars, hyphen, underscore is allowed in its name. And of course it should be executable ;)11:26
ikonialost_and_unfound: ok, the problem is this is the fact that cron does not have a valid "shell" setup11:26
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ikonialost_and_unfound: you need to set the X11 enviornment varibles up in your shell script, eg: DISPLAY=, xhost, etc etc.11:26
lost_and_unfoundin the bash scriptitself ?11:27
ikonialost_and_unfound: also cron does not have a controlling session on an X11 display, so if you run gksu blah - where is blah going to launch, it's not got a user "logged in" as cron is not a real use, you have to tell it11:27
varunendraquazimodo, I believe you can control the speed and accl. from the xinput command itself.11:27
ikonialost_and_unfound: yes, in the bash script11:27
varunendra(set props)11:27
Guest69783when i type:" sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf" ..... then i find:"nameserver 127.0.1.1",and i need to turn to google DNS ... shall i delete nameserver 127.0.0.1?11:31
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BluesKajGuest69783, no11:33
FourFireHello, I am about to try to install Java from a tar.gz package and I would likr to know which directory it would/should normally be in11:33
varunendraGuest69783, set the dns in Network Manager itself (use "Automatic (DHCP) address only" for IPv4)11:34
BluesKajGuest69783, add the name servers to  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base , it writes to /etc/resolv.conf11:34
slime_mawmag hi I need help getting zoneminder to work using a bttv878 card with 4 315D cameras on Ubuntu Server 12.0411:35
Guest69783# Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)11:35
Guest69783#     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN11:35
Guest69783nameserver 127.0.1.111:35
Guest69783nameserver 8.8.8.811:35
Guest69783nameserver 8.8.4.411:35
FloodBot1Guest69783: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:35
Guest69783i'm sorry FloodBot11:36
Guest69783http://paste.ubuntu.com/5873861/  shall i save and close?11:38
FourFireCan someone please direct me to the easiest way to install JRE on Ubuntu (12.04)11:38
MonkeyDust!jre11:39
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.11:39
odraHello11:44
cfhowlettodra, greetings11:45
slime_mawmaghi has anyone here have experience with Zoneminder?11:46
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odraHow can I program something like the twitter/gmail/etc message alerts? Such that users are asked if they want to install it in firefox when they access a site and such?11:46
diverdudeman top says: RES: Resident Memory Size: "The non-swapped physical memory a task has used". Does that mean RES is current memory usage or memory the process ever used? Like if memory is freed up i cannot see it here.11:47
Igramulodra: Are you talking about Firefox plugins?11:48
odraIgramul: I'm not sure :S11:48
odraIgramul: When I accessed twitter the other day, it asked whether I would like to "install it", so it would be shown in unity message menu11:49
ikoniadiverdude: reserved - man top explains it clearly11:51
Igramulodra: http://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2009/01/28/how-to-develop-a-firefox-extension/11:51
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odraIgramul: it's not a firefox extension12:13
odraIgramul: It's a thing that show in ubuntu version of firefox to integrate in unity12:13
IhsanHi. I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 (x64) and whenever I issue the command: 'uname -r', I get the following output: '3.8.0-26-generic'. Now, when I look at kernel.org I see that there is a newer version of the kernel (3.10). How can I upgrade my kernel?12:19
thor_...12:19
ItsMeLennyIhsan, why would you want to upgrade?12:21
slime_mawmagIhsan: you can upgrade using < sudo apt-get upgrade >12:21
IhsanI don't know. Isn't it better to always be up-to-date?12:21
IhsanDo I need to issue "./configure" then "make" and then "make install" to install the kernel?12:22
kimirIhsan: No, because latest kernel may have bugs; it is not well tested12:23
slime_mawmagIhsan: only if the new kernel is not yet in your repository, also you will have to update first12:23
IhsanOh okay, I get it now :)12:23
IhsanThanks12:23
slime_mawmagIhsan: kimir is right.12:23
IhsanSo if the kernel is stable it will automatically come with the new version of Ubuntu12:24
papa_hey all12:24
papa_I can't get my printer to print in ubuntu12:24
slime_mawmagIhsan: Just go along with what is available from your repository. That is more or less the most stable.12:24
IhsanHmm. Arlgiht, thanks for your information!12:24
ItsMeLennyIhsan, it will appear in the update manager12:24
ItsMeLennyyou can run update manager and see if theres any new updates, if theres a new kernal ready then it will be in there12:25
papa_I already tried that12:25
slime_mawmagpapa: ItsmeLenny was referring to Ihsan's :)12:26
papa_oh ok :)12:27
Learningg~check this out_: http://internet-exploiter.blogspot.pt/12:28
nevyndiverdude: don't believe top12:29
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slime_mawmagpapa: normally just got to your printer in Ubuntu12:30
slime_mawmagpapa: add printer then follow the prompt and let it search for the printer online12:31
Homely_GirlGreetings oh holders of the Linux knowlege!! :)12:32
Homely_GirlAnyone got experience with using Ubuntu 'n BT HomeHub4?12:32
slime_mawmagHomely_Girl: sorry but wait for the gurus to come online :)12:33
Homely_GirlThanks slime_mawmag, it is far too early!! lol12:33
kolialisadcan someone help me whit wine12:35
kolialisadhow to disable sound?12:36
kolialisadi want to play street war constructor12:36
kolialisadis ther no sound prefix12:40
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MonkeyDustkolialisad  type /join #winehq12:43
kolialisaddo you know meybe how to run in window mode12:47
kolialisadhow to remove mesa drivers and istall ati when i try just by addonisanal drivers it gives me error12:49
iceroot_kolialisad: start wineconfig (imo it was wine-cfg) and on the display settings create a virtual desktop, so everything will run in that window instead of fullscreen, more more details see #winehq12:49
iceroot_!details | kolialisad12:50
ubottukolialisad: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:50
paul__Hi i am new to this so dont know if in the right place but has anyone lost hdmi audio on 13.04 after the resent update thanks12:50
kolialisadi have pronlem whit  i istalld newest mesa drivers and now i think they bug my pc i am runing 12.04  so i want to install properity drivers but when i go on addonisanal drivers  it gives me error http://pastebin.com/XrTMb0Tc12:53
kolialisadanyone12:57
paul__Also when i install nvidia drivers i lose 2nd monitor so have to revert back to standard drivers tp get back 2nd monitor12:57
saiarcot895kolialisad: do you have AMD graphics?12:58
paul__yes amd grphics its a geforce 8400 gs card12:59
kolialisadi have ati 465012:59
kolialisadand before i coud easy install13:00
kolialisadbut affter i install this newest mesa driwers i cant revert13:00
BluesKajgeforce 8400 gs is nvida13:00
BluesKajer nvidia13:00
paul__my audio shows up in volume settings but notin alsa mixer13:00
BluesKajpaul try alsamixer , one word13:01
BluesKajpaul__,^13:01
paul__yes i have tried that and under s/pdif there is only 00 in a box no bar ?13:04
paul__this only happened after update this week i may try a reinstall and go from there ive tried many suggestions from the net but no success13:06
zipper_Hey I don't know if you guys can help but I'm male and 20 years old and sometimes I experience pain in my nipples for a few minutes. is that normal? where can I ask this.13:07
raven_how can i transfer files from a ubuntu machine to a windows machine on the same network13:07
theadminraven_: You can use the built-in folder sharing feature, for one13:08
BluesKaj!ot | zipper_,13:08
ubottuzipper_,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:08
theadminraven_: Share a folder with your files and then connect from Windows using your Ubuntu name and password, and the share name you specified.13:08
raven_hm13:08
kolialisadpusite ga pederi13:09
raven_my windows pc cannot see ubuntu shares13:09
theadminraven_: To share, you can right click a folder, go to Properties and Sharing. To connect from Windows, you'll need to map a network drive for example, this differs from version to version, but in general this should work: net use X: \\192.168.1.111\myshare13:09
theadminraven_: Where 192.168.1.111 is the Ubuntu box's IP.13:10
aguitelhow install manjaro xfce theme in ubuntu ?13:10
zipper_BluesKaj ubottu seriously I need help.13:10
th0raguitel, place it in a folder inside the folder ~/.themes. If that doesn't exist yet, create it13:11
aguitelth0r, ok but where i find it in the web ?13:11
BluesKajyup , no doubt , but this isn't the place , zipper_ so stop trolling please13:11
th0raguitel, have no idea, I never heard of it13:12
aguitelth0r, ok13:12
MonkeyDust!themes13:12
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy13:12
raven_it says i dont have the mermissions13:12
occwhat does *make a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf with "options ath9k nohwcrypt"* do? i used it to fix my wifi card(which kept disconnecting), the connection is stable now but a little slower in terms of bandwidth speed13:15
bigDoggyMy vps won't boot. I get to this point http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=df7xqe&s=5 ad it freezes. no detectable errors other than that (pre logging and can't get to dmesg). debconf-show -> http://sprunge.us/MAfM13:15
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th0rocc, that file passes that option to the module when it is loaded13:18
sasha__Hello13:18
sasha__I was wondering, how can you tell which wifi channel you're connected to?13:18
sasha__On Ubuntu 13.04?13:18
sasha__I tried iwlist wlan0 scan, but that didn't tell me which one I was connected to13:19
saiarcot895sasha__: wifi channel or wifi router name?13:19
sasha__WiFi channel13:19
sasha__<sasha__> I was wondering, how can you tell which wifi channel you're connected to?13:19
theadminsasha__: Wavemon can tell you13:21
raven_it says i dont have the mermissions13:21
sasha__Ok, thanks!13:22
sasha__Next question, how do I force the computer to connect to an AP that is 5 meters away instead of an AP that is 20m away?13:22
theadminsasha__: Uh, just select it from the list?13:22
sasha__Nah, it's the same network13:22
sasha__3 APs with the same SSID to allow roaming13:23
theadminsasha__: Uh.... huh. Not sure then, sorry.13:23
bigDoggysasha__ that is a config error in the AP13:23
bigDoggysasha__ probably a metric13:24
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sasha__what could be wrong? i know that the AP this laptop is trying to connect to is an older WiFi-abg one, and the others are only WiFi-bgn, although they're set to NG13:24
sasha__*the laptop is connected to13:24
mm12hi all13:25
mm12help trying to install ubuntu and iam stuck13:25
mm12telling me to edit partition13:25
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mm12iam going to install it on different drive and allocated 20gig to it..13:25
mm12now telling use as:??13:26
sasha__And because the RSSI is -80dB of the one this laptop is connecting to, the signal is of very low quality, whilst the closer AP has a signal of -50dB13:26
DJonesmm12: Use as is the file system type, for Ubuntu, its normally ext4 or ext313:26
mm12mount point?13:26
BluesKajsasha__, can you access the router/modem? , type the IP from the gateway in your browser by doing route -n in the terminal13:27
bigDoggymm12 winblows user?13:27
DJonesmm12: If this is your main partition, it should be "/"13:27
occth0r. but what does that option do? options ath9k nohwcrypt , it makes the connection more stable, but slower... is it something to do with encryption?13:27
sasha__BluesKaj: it's wrong :P13:27
sasha__The AP's IP is .3, whilst route -n is telling me that it's .1, which is the gateway13:28
mm12ok creating partition13:28
mm12do i have to create swap area?13:29
bigDoggymm12 yes13:29
bigDoggymm12 about 500 to 700mb is fine13:29
mm12pk13:30
mm12ok13:30
theadminmm12: No, you don't *have* to, but it's best to do so for optimal performance13:30
theadminmm12: If you're a new user why don't you just use the automated partitioning options? Just click the "Install Ubuntu near Windows" thing and go from there?13:31
mm12thanks13:31
mm12how long does this take usually to intall13:33
theadminmm12: Around half an hour for me13:34
mm12drivers for this has it got it..i have the gigabyte 797013:34
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mm12so i dont any antivirus or firewall for this13:35
mm12need13:35
theadminmm12: Yup, no need for that nonsense.13:35
mm12nice13:35
theadminmm12: Well, Ubuntu has a built-in firewall, but it's rare that you'd need to bother configuring it.13:35
Kebahi there13:37
mm12hi13:38
sebrockI've got an issue with xl2tpd and currently running 10.04 LTS so version is 1.2.8. Can someone help me build the latest version?13:38
Kebais there an official page (for example in the ubuntu wiki) which lists the winners of the 13.04 wallpaper contest? (i only find blogs for that matter, nothing official)13:39
theadminKeba: ...Well, if anything, Ubuntu has an official blog at fridge.ubuntu.com, might look around there.13:39
mm12whats an alternative to utorrent13:40
theadminmm12: Transmission is a great client, built-in to Ubuntu.13:40
yousdotransmission13:40
Ravenitixati is good too13:41
mm12ive installed it on different drive hopes its safe13:41
mm12wow that was quick brb13:42
theadminmm12: Tixati is also okay as Raveni said, but it's closed source.13:42
mm12brb theadmin  restart now that was quick wow13:42
theadminmm12: Hehe :)13:42
aguitelwhat twitter client are working ?13:42
DJonesaguitel: As far as I know Friends works in 13.04, although I use polly which is from a ppa (and wouldn't be supported in this channel)13:44
nothinkinghello13:45
nothinkinghi13:46
cfhowlettnothink13:46
nothinkinghello13:46
DJonesHi nothinking Welcome to #ubuntu, if you have a support question feel free to ask it13:46
nothinkingmy english very bad13:46
nothinkingwho can help me13:47
Dr_willisask a question first and see.13:47
nothinkingi from chinese13:47
DJonesnothinking: What is your native language? There may be a language specific channel that can help13:47
DJones!cn | nothinking13:47
ubottunothinking: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw13:47
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nothinking这能不能学英文啊13:48
th0rDJones, you could tell by his accent?13:48
BluesKaj!cn | nothinking13:48
ubottunothinking: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw13:48
nothinking想用ubuntu  英文难倒人啊13:48
RoeyHi.  Why is my timezone set to UTC all of a sudden??  How can I change this back to EDT?13:49
DJonesnothinking: Type "/join #ubuntu-cn" and the people in that channel should be able to help you in chinese language13:49
DJonesAh well, hope they've joined #ubuntu-cn13:50
nothinkinghi  i'm chinese13:53
MonkeyDust!cn > nothinking13:54
ubottunothinking, please see my private message13:54
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Dr_willisnothinking,  and this is english in here,  so chat in english here, or join the chinease channel.13:54
gotwigI want that ^(?:http://)?([^/]+)(?://?.*/?)/(.*)$ checks for www.  How can I do that? right now it checks for ://13:55
nothinkingi want stady english13:56
Dr_willisthen ask your question here, in english nothinking13:56
SaxXgotwig>> where do you want to check that?13:57
net0pssecwho knowsbest material on shell scripting...13:57
Dr_willisnet0pssec,  theres 10000's of sites and guides on bash scripting.13:57
Dr_willis!abs13:57
ubottuAdvanced Bash-Scripting Guide, obtainable with ${package-manager} install abs-guide, is a quick and comprehensive guide to bash (command line) scripting in *nix systems. It is also viewable via web at http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/13:57
Dr_willisthe #bash channel may know of other guides for differnt levels of experience.13:58
RaveniI try to use kdenlive video editing software... When I rendering my projedt output file size is 0kt? what i'm doing wrong?13:58
nothinkingi want to make a foreign friend13:59
MonkeyDustnothinking  wrong channel14:00
Dr_willisfor chit-chat  - try the #ubuntu-offtopic channel14:00
SaxXjoin the chinese channel for that nothinking14:01
net0pssecthanks all14:01
tobiasBoraHello,14:03
AaruniI have installed fglrx drivers on my new ubuntu 12.04 64bit. but I still get this. anyone know why ? http://edufor.fosspowered.com/img/image.php?di=FIGA  http://edufor.fosspowered.com/img/image.php?di=FA9O14:03
tobiasBoraI'd like to know, in a bash script I'd like what does "${1% *}" means ?14:03
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Dr_willis$FOO = a variable.  cant say ive notived that exact syntax befor. could be some sort of dynamic variable. #bash maybe a better place to ask14:05
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Dr_willis${command}  runs the command and sends the output of the command back to the script. but that seems weird in your syntax also.14:05
tobiasBoraDr_willis: Thanks, Euh there is two % but when I send it only one is displayed14:05
Dr_williswhat are you even trying to do?14:06
tobiasBoraif which "${1% % *}"14:06
tobiasBora(without space)14:06
MonkeyDusttobiasBora  sure it's not some kind of "bomb"?14:07
jribtobiasBora:  foo='  bar cat  '; echo "${foo% *}"XXX14:07
theadminDr_willis: No, that's $(command), ${VAR} returns the variable -- same as $VAR except it works with odd names14:08
dkkddkdhow to realtime stream canon digital cam to ubuntu14:08
Dr_willisits early. ;) heh14:08
tobiasBoraMonkeyDust: Bomb ?14:08
theadmintobiasBora: Malicious command disguised in weirdness14:08
jribtobiasBora: also see Paramater Expansion in « man bash »14:08
tobiasBoraI asked in #bash and it seems to be filter parameters : http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/07314:09
tobiasBorajrib: indeed it's that14:09
tobiasBoraThanks !14:09
mm12hi all14:10
mm12how do i download skype for ubuntu14:11
jrib!skype | mm1214:11
ubottumm12: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga14:11
theadminmm12: You use the Software Center to install extra apps on Ubuntu. Skype's in there.14:11
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mm12i typed in its not there14:12
MonkeyDustmm12  activate third party repo14:12
mm12how do i do that14:13
theadminmm12: It is, but you'll need to use the partner reository. See System Settings -> Software & Updates14:13
theadminmm12: In there, Other Software -> Canonical Partners should be enabled.14:13
theadminmm12: Or you can just go over to skype.com and get the Ubuntu package from there14:14
theadminmm12: http://download.skype.com/linux/skype-ubuntu-precise_4.2.0.11-1_i386.deb - direct link14:15
theadminmm12: (is 32-bit, but 64-bit Ubuntu is actually multiarch so you can use it there as well, Skype doesn't have a proper 64-bit version sadly)14:15
mm12marverlous thanks14:15
Guest85378I added on a Radeon X1650 card alongside my Riva TNT2 card (for some reason the BIOS cannot boot with only the X1650). The system boots OK but it cannot load the GUI. I tried startx and it said "segmentation fault at 0x58". I think that it is that the 2 GPU combo. So, how can I completely disable the TNT2 inside of linunx.14:16
mm12man this is so quicker than windows..wow14:16
theadminmm12: Good to hear :)14:16
theadminmm12: Yeah, Ubuntu is a lot faster than Windows, I have no idea what Windows uses resources on. I thought it uses them to look pretty, but Windows 8 is ugly and still uses a load of resources :/14:17
mm12oh oh download is stuck lol14:19
dkkddkdhow to realtime stream canon digital cam to ubuntu14:19
dkkddkdhello guys how to realtime stream canon digital cam to ubuntu????????????????14:19
theadmin!patience | dkkddkd14:20
ubottudkkddkd: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/14:20
theadminmm12: Microsoft lol. Let me reupload that package somewhere.14:20
MonkeyDustdkkddkd  http://www.area536.com/projects/streaming-video/14:20
Guest85378dkkdkd: download VLC, then there should be an option to open a capture device. Select the camera and go.14:20
mm12awesome thanks14:20
mm12brb14:21
theadminmm12: http://ubuntuone.com/1FWF4pWh9kr6wKxHXECUy414:21
dkkddkdi am trying over vlc..but i cant stream over devices in vlc...only integrated web cam is there14:21
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Dako300what do you mean by you cant stream over deivces14:22
sebrockcan someone help me build xl2tpd 1.3.1 for Lucid?14:23
theadminDako300: I think (s)he means "other" rather than "over".14:23
Dako300ok14:23
Dako300dkkddkd: is the camera installed on the computer14:24
dkkddkd<Daco300> other device means for eg. my digital cam canon sx 40hs14:24
Dako300I understand that, is the camera installed on the computer.14:24
dkkddkd<Dako300> no.. i just connected it via HDMI cable14:25
Vinnie_winOkay I just updated my Ubuntu software from the update manager and now the VirtualBox Guest Additions dont work14:25
Vinnie_winHow do I update the guest additions?14:25
Dako300dkkddkd: so you want to open a stream for a HDMI connection14:25
saiarcot895Vinnie_win: you have to tell Virtualbox to load the Guest Additions ISO file so that you can reinstall it14:26
BluesKajsebrock,why are you running lucid server ?14:27
munzxhi! i have installed ubuntu 13.04 and removed window$ 8 from an asus s200e notebook and now it overheats! , what is the "acceptable" temperature! , kindly note , i am giving it to my friend's 9 years old daughter14:27
saiarcot895Vinnie_win: Devices -> Install Guest Additions14:27
BluesKajsebrock, let me rephrase , are you running lucid server ?14:28
dkkddkd<Dako300>  yes14:28
saiarcot895munzx: depends on your CPU. what CPU do you have, and how do you know it's overheating?14:28
sebrockBluesKaj: yes14:28
BluesKajso what's your problem with xl2tpd 1.3.1  , sebrock ?14:30
Dako300dkkddkd: then I dont know what to say, I tried what I thought was the same thing before and it worked but I dont know about HDMI.14:30
clue_hIs there a way to prevent nautilus in ubuntu 12.04  showing the option to 'browse network'?14:30
sebrockBluesKaj: I need it, I'm curretly on 1.2.8 which has some nasty bugs. But I'm not comfortable with building stuff14:30
danahackerI am novice and wanting to install ubuntu along side windows xp. Should I choose "use LVM with the new Ubuntu installation"14:31
munzxit is an intel celeron processor , i tried sensors command and i got 64 - 7514:31
theadmindanahacker: You probably don't want that. Just choose the "Install Ubuntu alongside with Windows" option14:31
saiarcot895munzx: the high and critical values?14:31
BluesKajsebrock, wonder if your kernel supports that version (1.3.1 )14:32
theadmindanahacker: Also, if you're a new user, I'd recommend the LTS version (12.04) as you won't need to upgrade often14:32
theadmindanahacker: Can get used to it :P14:32
dkkddkd<Dako300> thanks for your suggestions... just now i downloaded and installed DigiKam but not possible14:32
MonkeyDustdanahacker  LVM is a lot more complex than a normal installation and you'll think the system is no good14:32
sebrockBluesKaj: I'm on: 2.6.32-4714:32
BluesKajis the 1.3.1 listed in muon , sebrock ?14:33
munzxsaiarcot895:  high +86 and crit +10014:33
munzxsaiarcot895: but i get in my personal laptop about 45c14:33
Dako300I added on a Radeon X1650 card alongside my Riva TNT2 card (for some reason the BIOS cannot boot with only the X1650). The system boots OK but it cannot load the GUI. I tried startx and it said "segmentation fault at 0x58". I think that it is that the 2 GPU combo. So, how can I completely disable the TNT2 inside of linunx.14:33
sebrockBluesKaj: in moun?14:33
danahackertheadmin: I'll switch to the LTS.  I was attempting with 13.04.  Also, "Install Ubuntu alongside with Windows" is not an option with 13.0414:34
theadmindanahacker: It is14:34
theadmindanahacker: Might be phrased a bit differently but it's there14:34
sebrockproblem is that xl2tpd spikes the CPU to 100% and then throtteling speed. I get a lot of xl2tpd[9474]: write_packet: Resource temporarily unavailable(11) errors and RX errors14:34
saiarcot895munzx: the "resting" temperature depends on the model of the CPU, so in one laptop, the "resting" temperature could be around 35-40 C while in another laptop, it could be around 50 C.14:34
Dako300now would be a good time to add that I am using a Dell Precision Workstation 530 MT, which the BIOS does not support the card without a minor fix.14:34
BluesKajsorry sebrock I meant your package manager14:34
saiarcot895munzx: based on the high and critical values, I wouldn't say the cpu is overheating, just that it's relatively warmer than others14:35
BluesKajsebrock, software center / repos14:35
rudivsanyone know a tool to edit exif / metadata tags of MP4 files? specifically, I've got a video with a "Create Date" from 1947, which is messing with Shotwell14:35
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munzxsaiarcot895:  so do you think it is safe to give to young girl ! (not trying to be dramatic , i am just worried )14:36
danahacker"erase, encrypt, LVM, something else" are the only options I see.  Guess it doesn't matter anyways since I am switching to LTS, will see what options it shows.  Im sure it is present, usuer error14:36
theadmindanahacker: Hm... It might not detect Windows. Which is a problem.14:37
theadmindanahacker: Try the LTS, yeah... But if that fails, you'll have to partition manually if you wish to keep Windows14:37
mm12ok how do i install pokerstars on ubuntu  because its an exe file do i need wine14:37
saiarcot895munzx: well, for starters, I wouldn't recommend placing the laptop on her lap; instead, it should be on a table/bed/not touching her primarily because of the heat14:37
theadminmunzx: My machine sits at aroudn 60 degrees all the time according to the sensors14:37
sebrockBluesKaj: of course not, I would have installed it if it would. 1.2.8 was the lastest I could find on launchpad for amd64.14:38
theadminmm12: Yeah, to run Windows apps wine is necessary. Click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/wine14:38
munzxsaiarcot895: thanks for the advice14:38
theadminmm12: Then just run the exe as you would in Windows (double-click it in the filemanager or such ;))14:38
quatarhi all. Yes I have read plenty of related topics in askubuntu, ubuntu forum and so. But I still don't get it: is it (deterministically) possible to install ubuntu 13.04 64bit alongside windows 8 on a (UEFI) vaio laptop, with a working dual boot, without wasting the pre-installed win 8 system?14:38
BluesKajsebrock, you may want to consider upgrading your server to 12.04 LTS14:38
chris__I tried the regular install routine and my computer video card appeared to be a problem so I downloaded the mini iso and went from there.  It is working great but upon boot is says ububnt studio.  what version is this considered to be?14:38
sebrockBluesKaj: I know, but as of right now this is not an option14:38
theadminquatar: Yeah, although you'll need to tweak a few things (disable secure boot, fast boot)14:38
BluesKajsebrock, is this a work machine ?14:39
quatartheadmin, i guess that a specifically designed guide for this particular configuration has not been written, has it?14:39
sebrockBluesKaj: yes14:39
munzxtheadmin:  same here , it is around 64 all the time and raise to 70 when playing videos!!!14:40
quatartheadmin: can I trust the auto-partitioning? and will i need bootrepair?14:40
BluesKajok , then I'm out of ideas , sebrock , sorry14:40
theadminquatar: Why yes, it's linked to right at the download page as well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI -- generally speaking, autopartitioning is your best bet, if you partition manually there's a few EFI-specific things to take care of14:40
theadminmunzx: Eh, fine for me, I wouldn't call that overheating. Overheating is when the temperature is above the "high" value.14:41
BluesKajsebrock, if your server kernels and or OS need upgrading but you're not allowed to do so i don't see asolution14:42
quatartheadmin, ok last time i saw that wiki page it was not so accurate in all the steps. Now it looks more cmprehensive14:43
quatarso I will try ...14:43
quatarthanks14:43
icerootwhat is the way to view the network-traffic (content) which is passing my wlan0 device? if it is possible i am only interested on traffic which is going to a specific host on port 25 and 14314:50
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theadminiceroot: I'm not 100% sure but I think you're looking for Wireshark.14:50
iceroottheadmin: thank you i will have a look14:51
freddofrogdo I still need to specially install the linux-image-virtual series for a paravirt guest on 12.04.2 or does the standard kernel support PV ?14:53
munzxtheadmin : ok , thanks :)14:53
mm12where is the restart button?? its missing14:54
theadminmm12: Uh? There's this icon on the top right, then you choose "Shut down" and then "Restart"14:54
mm12brb14:56
valroadieHello! I just installed crunchbang (using the live dvd right now) and it has messed up my boot loader/grub. I have ubuntu on this laptop as well and decided to have both but once crunchbang was installed and I rebooted none of them show up and my computer wont recognize any OS's. Any idea on how to fix the grub loader? I would appreciate it! :) My laptop is a macbook 2,1 late 2006 model, incase you needed the info xD14:56
theadmin!restoregrub | valroadie14:57
ubottuvalroadie: Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub14:57
bananasardahi to everybody...14:58
pavepawshello to you :D14:58
shaunshipyeallow14:58
shaunship:):):):14:58
valroadieThank you theadmin!15:02
theadminvalroadie: I didn't exactly do anything xD Just sent the documentation link15:03
mm12how do i do updates on here15:04
theadminmm12: you'll be notified of them, but basically there's this app called "Update Manager" ("Software Updater" since 13.04) which will update everything on your system15:05
valroadietheadmin, yeah well someone had to point me in the right direction eh? Haha cheers mate.15:05
theadminvalroadie: "eh" and "mate" in the same sentence? Canastralia! xD lol sorry15:05
shaunshiphow do i make my forum post sticky?15:07
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valroadieHahaha close! Cana-uk xD Though I wish I was in canada! lol15:07
theadminshaunship: Uh... you don't. Forum administrators do that to announcements and such.15:07
Dr_willisI imagine only forum admins can do that shaunship15:07
Dr_willisaskubuntu.com is a good alternative to the forums.15:07
theadminYeah, I have no idea why they still keep the forums, askubuntu works better than those15:08
arewe_ooo b ooo nt ooo15:09
arewe_pođimo u krčmu staruuu15:10
theadmin!pl | arewe_15:11
ubottuarewe_: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.15:11
sarthorHi, yesterday Ben: told me some linux command to konw the specs of the computer, somthing like inix -F, I do not remember the exact command. can some one help please.15:12
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theadminsarthor: lshw would give the most information15:15
BluesKajsarthor, what specs are you interested in ?15:15
theadminDunno what "inix" is, didn't hear anything similar15:15
sarthortheadmin: BlueEagl1 inxi -F worked.15:15
Aaruni|OSXcan windows 7 ultimate 64-bit be dual booted along with Ubuntu 12.04 64-bt (ubuntu is already installed) on a UEFI laptop, with MBR partition scheme ?15:17
theadminAaruni|OSX: Yeah, but... You'll lose the bootloader if you install Windows after Ubutnu15:18
theadminUbuntu*15:18
Aaruni|OSXtheadmin: I can boot-repair from liveUSB no problem15:18
theadminAaruni|OSX: If you need Windows for small things or use it rarely might be best to virtualize, using Virtualbox or somesuch.15:19
danahackerthreadmin: with LTS I only have "erase disk, something else". I want a dual boot because I have never used this and want to make sure I can still right grants and communicate with global nonprofits via video chat. Any recommendations15:19
saiarcot895Aaruni|OSX: or use Wine if it works with those programs15:19
Aaruni|OSXwhat bothers me is that Ubuntu wanted a 200mb partition for /boot/EFI. gonna use windows for intensive gaming15:19
theadmindanahacker: This is bad... I mean, if it fails to detect Windows it means it won't add it to the list of operating systems on the boot screen :/15:20
Caseyis there a program like Ghost32 out there for ubuntu?15:20
theadminCasey: What's it do?15:20
saiarcot895Aaruni|OSX: the standard size for the boot partition is 100-200 MB, although I heard someone used 1 GB (voluntarily)15:20
CaseyGhost32 is a Symantec program that does a carbon copy of a HDD into a ghost32 file.15:21
clue_hdd15:21
Aaruni|OSXsaiarcot895: but till BIOS laptop, it didn't ask for a specific boot partition15:21
theadminCasey: Uhh... okay, so a disk image? dd can do it, yeah.15:21
mm12a friend of mine has an ati 6450 his in terminal in safe mode he need the updates from ati ..what does hes have to write to get them15:21
Aaruni|OSXI just had an ubuntu partition, a swap partiion, and a windows partition, saiarcot89515:21
saiarcot895Aaruni|OSX: UEFI requires it, though15:21
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Caseydo you know what kind of "image" file it creates?15:22
Caseythe extension that is15:22
clue_hCasey you can specify that15:22
Aaruni|OSXsaiarcot895: so, does windows require something like that too, or will it just work normally ?15:22
mm12hi everyone need some help15:23
CaseyDD is a built in program?15:23
danahackertheadmin: hmmm I clicked on "something else" and it shows two partitions /dev/sda1 Windows xp media center edition, and /dev/sda2 windows nt/2000/xp15:23
CaseySorry, new to linux.15:23
mm12 a friend of mine has an ati 6450 his in terminal in safe mode he need the updates from ati ..what does hes have to write to get them15:23
clue_hCasey, it comes with linux15:23
Caseyclue_h can I get its full name?15:23
saiarcot895Aaruni|OSX: if you are using UEFI, then you need to have one (U)EFI system partition, located at the start of the hard drive; it's not OS specific15:23
theadmindanahacker: Yeah I know, but that's just the partitions... Eh. Anyway, I'm off here.15:23
Aaruni|OSXmm12: you can manually download the drivers, and then chmod +x, and then run it15:23
theadminCasey: The full name is dd. It's a command.15:23
Caseytheadmin: ohh, haha gotcha15:24
Aaruni|OSXsaiarcot895: so, if I have that 200 mb boot partition, then its common for all the OSs ?15:24
theadminAaruni|OSX: Bad idea, the drivers from the website often fail on Ubuntu.15:24
saiarcot895Aaruni|OSX: Yes15:24
Caseytheadmin: anything GUI based? :D15:24
theadminmm12: Try sudo apt-get install fglrx15:24
danahackerthanks you theadmin15:24
saiarcot895Aaruni|OSX: for what it's worth, you can probably shrink it down to 150 or 100 MB and have it still work15:24
theadminCasey: Eh... I'm not into GUIs for stuff that's easier to do with a console :/15:24
clue_hCasey, i'm not being bossy but you have to be real careful with it and review the commands before pressing enter lol15:24
Aaruni|OSXtheadmin: only the website drivers for me. the drivers from jockey cause crashers15:25
clue_hGUI based?15:25
Aaruni|OSX*crashes15:25
chunkyheadi changed my mouse curson theme, now i can't change it back help.15:25
foolcoolif I just enter random commands I see on 4chan will it mess up my linux15:25
saiarcot895Aaruni|OSX: on my system, based on "df -h", by boot partition is 99 MB15:25
saiarcot895*my15:25
theadminAaruni|OSX: Usually is the opposite.15:25
danahackercan I accomplish most tasks without keeping windows xp?15:25
Aaruni|OSXsaiarcot895: I don't have any space restrains. have a 500gig HDD15:25
theadmindanahacker: As long as you don't do much gaming... Well, you can do everything15:25
Aaruni|OSXtheadmin: maybe my systems are unique15:25
Caseyclue_h: thats why I was asking for GUI. not about to go mess with image programs in command :-p15:25
Caseyclue_h: no "bossy" taken15:26
theadmindanahacker: There's literally nothing Ubuntu can't do :P It can run Windows apps, too, but that doesn't always work well (obviously)15:26
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Aaruni|OSXtheadmin: but I can't get this window to reflect the gfx hardware I have : http://edufor.fosspowered.com/img/image.php?di=FIGA15:27
marco__Hey Everyone!  I am having an issue and the interwebs just arent providing me with any sort of answer.  I would like to disable the mouse gestures from Ubuntu 13.04.... now, if this is not possible my main concern is with the application switcher.. i don't even know how the mouse gesture works BUT it happens ALL THE TIME at the worst moment - and I often loose much typed out text.15:27
theadmindanahacker: ...well, if you are installing on a kerosene-powered cheese grater there are better distros for the purpose. But on generic machines, Ubuntu's great :)15:27
danahackerI'm sure there's a learning curve.  Is this a good place to come ask really basic questions?  Damn my machine runs kerosene chedder 2.1....is that okay :-)15:28
Aaruni|OSXswitching graphics between intel HD, and AMD HD 7670m works though, from catalyst control center15:28
theadmindanahacker: Basic questions are fine, for sure. Ubuntu comes with a built-in help system too, make sure to read it (you can also find the same docs online at help.ubuntu.com )15:29
clue_hyou can also pm ubottu to find stuff out15:29
ravenanyone who used HEIMDALL to root a android phone already? "partition recovery does not exist in the specified PIT .... any hints?15:30
saiarcot895marco__: mouse gestures? what kind of mouse gestures?15:30
bigDoggywhere is ntfsundelete hidden? I cannot find ntfsprogs in apt-get15:30
theadminbigDoggy: Is in ntfs-3g now15:30
mm12wine works great theadmin15:31
psilo_12.04LTS currently packages PHP5.4, but I want to install 5.3. What's the cleanest approach to this?  I hope I can still use apt for this package.15:31
theadminmm12: Good to hear.15:31
Aaruni|OSXtheadmin: any thoughts ?15:31
theadminAaruni|OSX: That displays some weirdness for me as well15:32
theadminAaruni|OSX: I choose to ignore it :D15:32
Aaruni|OSXhmm15:32
Aaruni|OSXxD15:32
Aaruni|OSXtheadmin: will do the same ^_^15:32
mm12one thing though how come when i boot up it doesent come up with dual boot i have to go to bios to change it and then it goes into ubuntu15:32
Aaruni|OSXmm12: installed on two different HDDs ?15:33
mm12yes15:33
Aaruni|OSXthen use the ubuntu HDD as the primary boot device15:33
Aaruni|OSXand then boot-repair15:33
Aaruni|OSXthat should do it15:33
theadminmm12: Well if they are on different drives that's kinda how it's supposed to work I think15:33
Aaruni|OSXAFAIK, if you can call GRUB before you go to windows boot loader, then it will work. and since GRUB is installed on the second drive, it comes up only when you choose the second drive in BIOS15:34
mm12yep but i have to change if i have to use windows through bios15:34
Aaruni|OSXmm12: did you try boot-repair15:34
Aaruni|OSX?15:34
mm12how?15:34
Aaruni|OSXits a GUI application. it will fix most errors in GRUB15:35
Aaruni|OSXubottu: GRUB15:35
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub215:35
Aaruni|OSXubottu: boot-repair15:35
Aaruni|OSXubottu: boot repair15:35
BsimsHowdy15:36
Aaruni|OSXmm12: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair15:36
marco__Saiarcot895:  Thank you for the reply, sorry I had not realized it came through.  As I said in my inital question, apploication switcher.15:39
sebrockcan someone help me build a custom xl2tpd on launchpad?15:39
erythrocytedoes anyone know if the pulseaudio package that comes with ubuntu 13.04 have support for webrtc echo cancellation? and if so how do i enable it?15:39
marco__It is not just a mouse thing, its also because of the keyboard.  In typing this it popped up 3 times and switched me to other apps.15:40
marco__Saiarcot895: It is not just a mouse thing, its also because of the keyboard.  In typing this it popped up 3 times and switched me to other apps.15:40
saiarcot895marco__: not sure on this, but the only way I can bring up the application switcher is by using Alt+Tab, Alt+`, or clicking on an icon with two windows15:42
saiarcot895marco__: in the Unity Tweak Tool, there's an Application Switcher section15:42
sebrockwhat is the channel for launchpad here on freenode?15:42
Aaruni|OSXbye15:43
saiarcot895marco__: you could check your settings there are see if there's anything strange15:43
saiarcot895sebrock: #launchpad15:43
marco__Saiarcot895: Unity tweak, i had at one point, will re-DL, what do I do with it to check?  Alt-Tab is the only *known* way opening switcher on my laptop, NO clue whats doing i hen I am typing quick and careless.15:44
saiarcot895marco__: install it (sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool); open it from the Dash; see the Application Switcher section15:45
saiarcot895marco__:  *see the Switcher section15:45
erythrocytedoes any one know how to enable webrtc module for pulseaudio in ubuntu?15:46
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Guest25663how i see complete information of a media, either photo or video, from the terminal?15:53
mm12Temperature Monitoring in Ubuntu tells me i have to be root15:55
marco__Saiarot895: Got it open but I am not seeing an app switcher section anywhere.... am I overlooking it or is it a bit off the beaten path?15:55
mm12for my graphic card..15:55
mm12permission denied?15:55
saiarcot895marco__: under Unity, there should be a Switcher button15:55
mm12unalbe to lock the administration directory /var/lib/dpkg15:55
mm12help someone15:55
saiarcot895!dpkglock | mm1215:57
ubottumm12: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:57
valroadieCan anyone help me out with this boot loader error file? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5874421/15:57
valroadieI have tried twice with the boot-repair tool but to no avail.15:57
chunkyheadi changed my mouse curson theme, now i can't change it back help.15:57
marco__saiarcot895: i have found that section but see no resolve.  Would "automatically expose windows" checkbox be of use?15:57
marco__wait wait15:58
marco__saiarcot895: WTF, there are like 20 shortcuts to open switcher... no wonder.... jeeeeeez, whhhyyyyy15:58
saiarcot895marco__: try Restore Defaults15:59
marco__saiarcot895: OK, but it wont let me remove these shortcuts, how do I do that... my problem will be fixed15:59
marco__saiarcot895: nope15:59
marco__saiarcot895: the last 2 options ar "disabled" by default  but i see no way of disabling those enabled or vice versa16:00
saiarcot895marco__: clicking on the shortcut allows you to change them16:00
golesHey guys, I'm starting a fresh ubuntu 13 64 bits server, I was wondering if someone knows about a decent guide about the basics of security that I should be aware of, (I'm not exactly a noob, but I want to cover my bases)16:01
saiarcot895marco__: try assigning the same shortcut to the open switchers16:01
MeraLundKhadaHaiis this the moment where i look you in the eye forgive my broken promise that you'll never see me cry and everything it will surely change even if i tell you i won't go away today will you think that you're all alone when no one's there to hold your hand i know you know it seems so far away when everything's temporary something your hand im permanent16:01
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MeraLundKhadaHaiis this the moment where i look you in the eye forgive my broken promise that you'll never see me cry and everything it will surely change even if i tell you i won't go away today will you think that you're all alone when no one's there to hold your hand i know you know it seems so far away when everything's temporary something your hand im permanent16:02
saiarcot895goles: try #ubuntu-server16:02
MeraLundKhadaHaiis this the moment where i look you in the eye forgive my broken promise that you'll never see me cry and everything it will surely change even if i tell you i won't go away today will you think that you're all alone when no one's there to hold your hand i know you know it seems so far away when everything's temporary something your hand im permanent16:02
MeraLundKhadaHaiis this the moment where i look you in the eye forgive my broken promise that you'll never see me cry and everything it will surely change even if i tell you i won't go away today will you think that you're all alone when no one's there to hold your hand i know you know it seems so far away when everything's temporary something your hand im permanent16:02
MeraLundKhadaHaiis this the moment where i look you in the eye forgive my broken promise that you'll never see me cry and everything it will surely change even if i tell you i won't go away today will you think that you're all alone when no one's there to hold your hand i know you know it seems so far away when everything's temporary something your hand im permanent16:02
Guest25663Hi guys. How i see complete information of a media, either photo or video, from the terminal?16:02
valroadieugh...spam16:02
MeraLundKhadaHaiis this the moment where i look you in the eye forgive my broken promise that you'll never see me cry and everything it will surely change even if i tell you i won't go away today will you think that you're all alone when no one's there to hold your hand i know you know it seems so far away when everything's temporary something your hand im permanent16:02
MeraLundKhadaHaiis this the moment where i look you in the eye forgive my broken promise that you'll never see me cry and everything it will surely change even if i tell you i won't go away today will you think that you're all alone when no one's there to hold your hand i know you know it seems so far away when everything's temporary something your hand im permanent16:02
jribGuest25663: what information exactly?16:03
jribMeraLundKhadaHai: stop16:03
golessaiarcot895: ty16:03
Guest25663size, fps, quality, duration ...16:03
valroadiepwned! xD So if no one can help me with this boot-repair error file, could someone point me in the right direction then? I need quick help or I would post on the forums like I usually do. Thanks! http://paste.ubuntu.com/5874421/16:03
valroadieguest25663, if you right clock on the file you can see all of those on the properties page if I'm not mistaken.16:04
valroadie*click16:04
saiarcot895marco__: using Backspace will change it to disabled16:04
valroadieMaybe not duration :/16:04
RedDragonGreetings folks16:05
Guest25663ok, but i wanted to get this information via terminal16:05
RedDragonI need some help with a video issue on Ubuntu 12.04 ...16:06
jribGuest25663: "mplayer -identify" probably gives you a lot of it16:06
GBS-NETi hav no idea whats with this terminal 2day.....tryn2 open it and it gives msg "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal. text was empty(or contained only whitespace)pls hlp.16:06
mm12help pls how do i monitor my graphic cards temperature16:06
mm12is there a program that does it16:06
saiarcot895mm12: sensors might be able to get your GPU temperatures (sudo apt-get install lm-sensors)16:07
saiarcot895mm12: depends on your hardware, though16:07
mm12ok its installed how do i run it..16:08
saiarcot895mm12: you have to initially run "sudo sensors-detect" to get all the sensors, but then you can just run sensors from the terminal16:08
RedDragonhelp, I am getting a low video mode on boot ...16:08
Guest25663jrib, ok, i tested ffprobe and did more or less what i wanted, now, i need a command to images...16:09
mm12what u mean run sensor..like how..16:09
mm12which command16:09
chunkyheadhow do you change password of irssi account?16:10
saiarcot895mm12: from terminal (Ctrl+Alt+A)16:10
saiarcot895mm12: type in "sudo sensors-detect" first16:10
chunkyheadpassworf or irc accout rather16:10
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RedDragoncan any one help with a low video mode issue???16:13
marco__<saiarcot895: backspace is not working, nor delete16:13
saiarcot895marco__: is the Restore Defaults button grayed-out?16:14
marco__No sir, looking normal16:14
saiarcot895marco__: when you click on a keyboard shortcut, does the text change to New Accelerator...?16:16
otakGuest25663: file <imagename> can get size, feh --list <imagename> gets more info16:16
marco__saiarcot895: i dont know if i get you but I'd say no... when i click on one of the choices if i hit any key it opens a box and i can type in it but nothing changes16:17
saiarcot895marco__: double-clicking on the keyboard shortcut itself (like on <Alt>Tab)?16:18
marco__saiarcot895: you are speaking of system settings, not unity tweak tool.16:18
saiarcot895marco__: no, I mean the unity tweak took16:19
marco__saiarcot895: it says new accellerator only in system settings keyboard shortcuts16:19
marco__in tweak tool ive not seen those words16:19
marco__saiarcot895: : yep, tried all the expected routes... nada16:19
marco__saiarcot895: "backspace" also works to disable shortcuts in keyboard shortcuts from sys settings, no change in UTT16:20
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saiarcot895marco__: http://imgur.com/FBCVmyg16:22
mm12later thanks for everthing16:24
marco__saiarcot895: mine looks the same w.o the new accellerator but thats exactly mine in system settings keyboards16:25
RedDragoncan anyone help with a video issue?16:28
saiarcot895marco__: not sure then; if you've tried clicking multiple times on the keyboard shortcut in UTT, and it still doesn't ask for a new shortcut, it could be a permissions problem, but not sure16:29
marco__where can i post these screens for you?16:29
saiarcot895marco__: imgur16:29
marco__i have no accounts at places like that.  ok one sec16:29
saiarcot895marco__: it doesn't require an account16:30
marco__awwwwesome16:30
krishna_hello16:34
marco__Saiarcot895:  It wouldn't let me snap a screen in Sys Settings Keyboard Shortcuts with the selection highlihted as to see "new accellerator", but, its there on that one - - - -   http://imgur.com/ksR9jD5,3jkioDe#1    |    http://imgur.com/ksR9jD5,3jkioDe#016:34
mm12hey16:35
krishna_hello anyone there i am new here can someone help me??16:35
RedDragoncan anyone help with a low video mode problem>?<16:35
saiarcot895marco__: you have the same shortcuts I have, so it's not that then16:36
marco__but, allll those shortcuts for opening app switcher16:36
marco__theres like 1516:36
saiarcot895!nomodeset | RedDragon16:37
ubottuRedDragon: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter16:37
marco__its got to be one of those i am hitting, everythin i type is intrupted by app switcher16:37
mm12hey 928 how are you16:37
krishna_can somebody help me with this environment ?16:37
gk928hello  .everyone...noob  here...and  learning16:38
Vinnie_winHow do I tell VirtualBox to load the Guest Additions ISO? Which ISO does it load? Do I just reinstall the old guest additions? Or do I have to download a new one? I'm so confused16:38
rypervenchegk928: Welcome :)16:39
as2000krishna: welcome! I'll see what I can help with16:39
marco__saiarcot895:  Something is strange here, man... I just randomly double clicked on "Start switcher for all workspaces in reverse" in UTT and it gave me the new accellerator option AND  allowed me to disable it... but, no others and I can even reenable that one.  Reboot, brb16:39
gk928thankyou  ryper16:40
rypervenchegk928: Do you have a problem that we can help you with?16:40
saiarcot895Vinnie_win: in the guest OS window, go to the Devices menu and select Install Guest Additions16:40
Dr_willisVinnie_win,  the vbox  gui/tool/interface can download and auto mount the iso file for those i recall. i suggest checking the vbox manual at its homepage.16:40
krishna_oh thanks @as2000 u replied atleast16:40
gk928not at  the  moment...thank  you16:40
as2000krishna_: what can I help with16:41
RedDragonubottu - I am having the dreaded 'system is running in low-graphics mode' issue16:41
saiarcot895RedDragon: ubottu is a bot; have you tried using nomodeset?16:42
RedDragonoh wow I am such a nube ...16:43
RedDragonnot sure how to do that ...16:43
krishna_i am not having any prob in particular i am totally new here as2000 ! how and with what i can proceed  with  i have to learn many things16:43
saiarcot895RedDragon: when loading your computer, do you see the GRUB menu, where you choose what OS to load?16:44
RedDragonnope ...16:45
saiarcot895RedDragon: see the "How to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS (not wubi)" section at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161313216:45
RedDragondid I mention the word nube ,,,16:46
marco__saiarcot895: ok, so somethings wrong cause like I'd explained before it randomly let me change that one but no others still.16:46
saiarcot895marco__: have you tried clicking multiple times on the other shortcuts (on the shortcuts themselves, not the names)16:47
saiarcot895RedDragon: when loading your computer, do you see the GRUB menu, where you choose what OS to load (options within a box, possibly a purple or black background)?16:47
foolcoolis running starcraft and battlefield 3 in a virtualbox on a linux box at minimum settings on a very powerful computer possible16:48
marco__saiarcot895: I feel like I am the world biggest idiot - and you the worlds biggest genius.  WOW.  What a simple fix/mistake..... thank.16:49
Dr_willisfoolcool,  normally games are ran with WINE, not in a vm.16:49
marco__saiarcot895: No i have to reset for changes to take exffect?16:49
Dr_willisfoolcool,  vm's often lack the 3d/hardware acelleration needed for the game16:49
Dr_willis!appdb | foolcool16:49
saiarcot895marco__: I don't think you have to16:49
ubottufoolcool: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help16:49
as2000marco_: don't be hard on yourself. it's just new and you will get the hang of it :)16:50
foolcoolthamks16:50
marco__Oh, I thnk its still happening... lets see as I type here.... oh, what does "automatically expose windows" do?  Its a checkbox there.16:50
acidrainthere is an issue with the 3.50.0-generic kernel on my machine. fatal sync, kernel panic. everytime i boot my machine i must use the oldest kernel16:50
acidrainits not a big deal to me. just kinda mad that even after a reformat, and software updates occured, the same issue happened16:51
as2000acidrain: what kind of cpu is this?16:51
marco__oh crap16:51
acidrainas2000, asus16:51
saiarcot895marco__: what happened?16:51
marco__saiarcot895: what does "automatically expose windows" do?  Its a checkbox.16:51
saiarcot895marco__: no idea, let me see16:52
acidrainas2000, M4A78LT-M/CM1730/DP_MB is what is written on the mb. everything is stock from the original asus casing16:52
saiarcot895marco__: it's checked on my UTT16:53
saiarcot895marco__: Controls whether the switcher exposes minimized windows.16:55
RedDragonsaiarcot - purple background with low video mode warning .. but no menu ...17:01
firefox67quit17:01
danieltreeI am doing some testing ...I first installed ubuntu in VirtualBox ...grub on /dev/sda and after that I installed Windows..on a separate partition..and mbr was rewriten..I put grub again on mbr...but when I update-grub it gives me an entry in the grub menu for win7 but it doesnt work..17:02
mumpitze1doesn't work how?17:03
danieltreewell it doesnt boot into win717:03
mumpitze1yes, but your description so far is simply useless. you need to give us more to work with17:06
danieltreeits a dualboot setup17:06
danieltreefirst installed ubuntu17:06
danieltreethen windows17:07
danieltreeI want to be able to boot into both17:07
mumpitze1you repeat yourself. why?17:07
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mumpitze1explain the actual problem17:07
wheatthinmumpitze1, he wants to dualboot and can't cause he installed windows 7 last17:07
danieltreeI cannot boot into windows from grub17:07
wheatthinso he needs to fix grub17:07
danieltreesory have to go ...brb17:08
mumpitze1wheatthin: no. he wrote he reinstalled grub afterwards17:08
as2000interminal type sudo ap-get update grub17:08
mumpitze1as2000: that's not useful17:08
as2000shoot, its apt-get update grub17:08
danieltreeI have to go downstairs ...but brb in 10 min17:09
mumpitze1as2000: that's useless for him. you need to read what he did more carefully: "I put grub again on mbr"17:09
wheatthinsudo update-grub I believe.. will check17:09
mumpitze1windows  will give you an error (or grub will). also we need the output of fdisk -l and grub.cfg probably17:09
mumpitze1wheatthin: please read what he wrote. he did all that17:09
as2000you can always press F8 on boot too17:09
wheatthinahh.. he needs to pop windows cd in, and run fixboot to replace the mbr, switch which drive boots first, and then update grub17:11
acidrainas2000, the patch didnt work. same error17:11
mumpitze1wheatthin: you are writing a lot of nonsense :(17:12
wheatthinmumpitze1, no, it's not nonsense.17:12
acidrainaint no tellin man. as long as i can still use ubuntu ill keep doing it. but the ubuntu developers are making it very difficult to enjoy my stay17:12
mumpitze1wheatthin: he installed it in VBox. "grub on /dev/sda and after that I installed Windows..on a separate partition" yes: utter nonsense17:13
ActionParsnipacidrain: in what way?17:13
SonikkuAmerica!ping17:13
ubottupong!17:13
acidrainActionParsnip, a very poor choice in unity layout (used cinnamon). bad kernel updates which cause fatal syncing issues that dont allow me to boot. <--- those are the MAIN 217:14
ActionParsnipmumpitze1: why? you can make a sing dual boot virtualbox instance ...17:14
Dr_willisdual booting linux/windows in vbox?17:14
mumpitze1ActionParsnip: different partition, not disk17:14
ActionParsnipacidrain: not seen those myself.17:14
Dr_willisacidrain,  gnome devs now have an official 'gnome-2' look/feel part in the latest gnome releases. I imagine cinnamon will be obsolete in a year.17:15
mumpitze1Dr_willis: not very sensible, but whatever he wants17:15
ActionParsnipmumpitze1: well, yes as windows will need to be on an ntfs partition17:15
acidrainDr_willis, but cinnamon is great. i love it. ive tried the lil gnome-2 look/feel  you speak of. its just not the same17:15
Dr_willisand its rather trivial to have 2 seperate hard drives in vbox and select what one to use.17:15
acidrainDr_willis, are you suggesting that i create a backup of the cinnamon source so i can install it in the future?17:16
wheatthinacidrain, lol no... he's saying it will not be needed, and obsolete17:16
Dr_willisacidrain,  i imagine once the gnome shell's official gnome2 setup gets included.. it will become abndoned17:16
ActionParsnipacidrain: i recommend xfce to unity haters. it is coded using gtk and gnome apps will install in the same way. plus its super light17:16
rizz__Hello everyone. I'm unable to figure out which ports I should open in my firewall to get vsftpd to work. It works with firewall disabled. Here's my vsftpd.conf http://pastebin.com/VnuUbWFJ17:17
acidrainActionParsnip, i actually like the xfce-light DE, i have it running the newest ubuntu on an old 98 desktop. and it flipflops through controls and graphics like its running 5 quad cores17:17
ActionParsniprizz__: 21 and 20 as ftp is a wasteful old thing and should die17:18
ActionParsnipacidrain: or do what I do, openbox on its own. DEs are such a waste17:18
rizz__ActionParsnip: i dont have it in 20 and 2117:18
acidrain!openbox17:19
ubottuopenbox is a lightweight window manager. For instructions and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox17:19
ActionParsniprizz__: then 8888 and 8889. Why are you not using the standard ports?17:20
rizz__ActionParsnip: because i dont want to. i'm sorry but i dont see why that's relevant to my problem17:20
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acidrainActionParsnip, sounds like my gf wouldnt be able to handle the interface. she enjoys watching movies and listening to music. i doubt, from the sounds of it, she could even do that17:21
askablystutitu17:21
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Guest92940saiarcot895: All previous issues have been resolved, thanks but now i have a new issue somehow and i cant figure out why - there are a whole slew of shortcuts everywhere. shift does a shortcut with everything and the app menu on left -  all icons have numbers on them.... ctrl alt t opens trash even tho its stil set for terminal where i see it17:22
ActionParsnipacidrain: how do you figure that?17:22
acidrainActionParsnip, "That means installing Openbox won't give you easy menu access to wallpaper options, a taskbar or system panel, or most of those other doo-dads"17:23
ActionParsniprizz__: just a casual question. why the attitude?17:23
acidrainActionParsnip, lol, and im serious. u know man. most people know how to use an iphone, and thats it, she is one of them people17:23
acidraini on the other hand, use android terminal only to do all tasks. :)17:24
as2000acidrain: wife is the same way, but i'm impressed how quickly she picked Ubuntu. She refuses Windows now17:24
ActionParsnipacidrain: its a bit more finickety for stuff like that. apps like tint2 and other stuff gives the other functionality like taskbar, you can use idesk for desktop icons.17:24
ActionParsniprizz__: was a reasonable question? wasnt it?17:25
acidrainas2000, ya i made the poor decision of formatting her laptop with ubuntu 9.04 (my favorite to date), and it wouldnt open her drives, didnt show menus, or anything. cause her computer was too new. so it turned her away from linux. i failed the linux community and went into a depressive stage for at least 2 months where i wouldnt even show my name here17:25
acidrainlol17:25
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danieltreeI am back17:26
acidrainas2000, then had to pay a shop 200$ to put a pirated copy of win8 on her laptop, because i refuse to even have a .iso copy on my computer17:26
Guest92940saiarcot895: everything shortcut wise changed... its crazy...17:27
Guest92940saiarcot895: any idea why every app is numbered on their icon in app menu17:28
as2000acidrain: I'm sorry man. :)17:29
psilo_rizz__: `netstat -plant | grep LISTEN` might alert you to something you missed17:29
ActionParsniprizz__: could use SFTP instead. FTP has near zero security17:29
acidrainas2000, i must say, that was almost 2yrs ago. and she still hasnt gotten a virus with no protection. so im kindly impressed with win8. but as far as looks.... might as well be unity17:30
rizz__psilo_: thanks ill have a look17:30
bazhang!ot | as2000 acidrain17:30
ubottuas2000 acidrain: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:30
psilo_ActionParsnip: I see where he's coming from, even if you didn't mean it that way.  answering a question with what usually leads to "but just dont do it that way" instead of an answer is pretty annoying.  The "XY Problem" is real, yeah, but it's useless when people assume that it's ALWAYS the XY problem.17:31
ActionParsnippsilo_: reasonable question requesting a reasonable answer. Simple really.17:32
RedDragonI reverted to reinstalling ... thanks all ... laters ....17:32
psilo_ActionParsnip: it always STARTS that way.  I think he just wanted to nip that in the bud17:32
ActionParsnippsilo_: just the "i want to" would have done that17:33
acidrainActionParsnip, what do you mean ftp almost has zero security?17:33
acidraini think it has quite a bit...17:33
as2000ActionParsnip: I'm not sure why you recommended those ports? 20 and 21 are standard ports17:34
ActionParsnipacidrain: username and password sent in clear text. unencrypted data transfer end to end17:34
acidrainActionParsnip, as long as file permissions are set properly and user home directories are set up correctly. thats secure enough isnt it?17:34
acidrainActionParsnip, oh i see what youre saying17:34
rizz__psilo_: hm that command just showed vsftpd on 8888 and dns which is what it's supposed to be. my guess is it has something to do with me connecting with passive mode, but I've open 50000:51000 too which is all I need to do, isn't it?17:35
ActionParsnipas2000: yes. just wondered why there had been a change of port numbers etc17:35
acidrainpassword always showed up for me in *****'s so i assumed it was encrypted :P17:35
jluchello17:35
ActionParsnipacidrain: not the login packet sent to the server. ots only obfuscated in the client you see17:35
acidrainbut ActionParsnip your telling me that ftp services dont md5 the password on the host machine, then md5 it on the client, and be sure they match? :/17:35
ActionParsnipacidrain: no hashing of any sort at any point.17:36
jribacidrain: why would it matter if they did?17:36
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acidrainjrib, to obviously be like every service known to man and be a LITTLE secure about it rather than using plain text?17:36
ActionParsnipacidrain: yet people still use it......weird huh17:36
acidrainActionParsnip, i agree, im changing to sftp. will the standard ftp client work with the service?17:37
jribacidrain: I don't understand17:37
jlucPlz How do i know which theme is active now ? QTconfig says GUI style is "default config"17:37
acidrain!sftp17:37
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)17:37
ActionParsnipacidrain: nautilus can connect to sftp17:37
zipyext4_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 6896 not in group (block 2897613455)!17:37
zipy[67113.336905] EXT4-fs (dm-3): group descriptors corrupted! <--- does someone know how to fix this?17:37
ActionParsnipzipy: boot live cd and fsck the partition17:38
jlucQtconfig says GUI style is "Destkop settings (default)" : which is it ?17:38
acidrainbased off ubottu's simple answer, sounds like there is no gui to sftp services. thats probably why the mass of people dont use it. sounds like we need to make some :D17:38
hramyHello, i have a problem with the last version of xampp, the .run doesn't start, can anyone help me with this issue please ? I'm on gnome-shell17:38
jluc"GUI style"  = "theme" ?17:38
jribacidrain: there are tons of guis, including the default file manager17:39
ActionParsnipacidrain: again. nautilus can connect to sftp. you can also use filezilla17:39
acidrainjrib, but what about on windows?17:39
jribacidrain: winscp for example17:39
acidrainActionParsnip, ya filezilla is good, thx17:39
rizz__acidrain: many, if not all modern ftp clients has support for SSL and SFTP. and a simple SSL cert will make sure that nothing is sent unencrypted17:39
ActionParsnipacidrain: so is there "no gui to sftp services"?17:39
rizz__which is widely used17:39
zipyActionParsnip, the problem is, it is luks encrypted, what path shall i fsck?17:40
danieltreeping17:40
ikoniadanieltree: yes ?17:40
ActionParsnipzipy: in encryptfs I have no idea. i dont use it at all17:40
acidrainrizz__, i use dftp-pro, it uses cert's. so i pretty much have a secure ftp?17:40
tkinghello guys, after formatting my hard drives, can I recover files or is there any technology to open it17:40
rizz__acidrain: if you have an SSL cert on your daemon and are connecting with the secure options enabled you should be17:41
ActionParsniptking: you can use foremost but you will need a writable partition of equal or greater size to spit files to17:41
ActionParsniptking: probably easier to use your backups17:41
acidrainjrib, to answer your not understanding: every smart service today doesnt store any passwords in raw text, they are md5/sha1/esc... encrypted on the host machine. the client does the same hash type, then it checks to see if the hashes match17:41
acidrainrizz__, oh ok. im good then :)17:42
jribacidrain: that scheme by itself wouldn't accomplish anything though17:42
ActionParsnipacidrain: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie17:43
acidrainjrib, are you saying because of the large amount of rainbow tables we have today makes it insecure? if so, then yes. the creator of the md5 hash has even said to not use his hash anymore because of how many rainbow tables we have17:43
jribacidrain: no, but it's offtopic here anyway.  Let's move on17:43
rizz__acidrain: i think he means that sending a hashed version unencrypted wont make a difference if someone sniffs the traffic since they can just send the same hash and get access to your account17:44
acidrainrizz__, ya good point. even if the service hashed the password anyways instead of the client, sniffing will do the trick it sounds like17:45
superbootHi all. My acer aspire one d260 netbook has a blank screen during boot, and then comes back on after it's at the login screen for about 15 seconds. Any hints?17:45
tkingActionParsnip, actually, if i have a laptop that authorities want to inspect, i am wondering if formating it with Ubuntu bootable or gparted would prevent anyone from get eve a bit of old data17:46
acidrainsuperboot, my machine does this sometimes. i just boot it up and go make a sandwich. then again.... i only reboot about once a year17:46
mixxxsciao17:46
mixxxs!list17:46
ubottumixxxs: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».17:46
rizz__acidrain: yes since if the client hashes it the hash will actually be your password and if the server hashes it the same thing applies. either way, sniffing would give an attacker an oppurtunity to send your password and login and gain access17:46
ActionParsniptking: could use dban or dd to zero off the drive17:46
zipyActionParsnip, does fsck take long on 1tb?17:47
zipycuz i see now only running nummbers17:47
ActionParsnipzipy: depends on drive speed etc. Just run it overnight and you'll be ok17:47
khildinn00b question: can lucid get a kernel update to 3.2 or 3.8? Or should I keep it on the standard 2.6?17:47
ActionParsnipkhildin: are you using a graphical desktop and Firefox web browser?17:48
khildinno graphical desktop17:48
khildinon the server I use....17:48
superbootacidrain: haha, well. this is a laptop.17:48
khildinon my laptop I do have a graphical desktop and FF17:49
ActionParsnipkhildin: you could install the debs but we cannot support the kernel if it is not the one for your release17:49
khildinok... thnx... I'll leave it on 2.6 then...17:49
acidrainugh. ok, i need to install flash player, i want to do the apt method, but when chosing a program to use, software center is not available. i know i can just apt-get or go directly to the software center, but i dont want to have to do this in the future, i wnat ot just click it and it happen17:50
zipyActionParsnip, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74418992/Bildschirmfoto%20vom%202013-07-14%2019%3A49%3A05.png here a screenshot, is this normal? im a little scared -.-17:52
ActionParsnipacidrain: chrome comes with flash by default17:52
ActionParsnipzipy: sorry. no idea17:52
acidrainActionPartition but im a firefox fan17:53
docvellzipy: what were you doing when that happened?17:53
docvellmight shed some light into it17:53
zipyfschk -C -V17:53
k1l_fsck on mounted devices?17:53
zipyon a encrypted partition17:53
zipyno17:53
zipyonly luksopen17:53
zipysudo fsck -C -V /dev/mapper/crypt17:54
jlucPlz How do i know which theme is active now ?17:54
docvellhmm...it said it could cause damage on my partition so I decided to select N17:54
atpa8ahello17:56
hramyGuys, i have a problem with the last version of xampp, the .run doesn't start, can anyone help me with this issue please ?17:56
sysRPLcan someone hlep me please? when i turn on my 64bit 13.04 ubuntu laptop i get a message saying it is waiting for the network, and then after a while it says waiting 60 seconds for netowkr ... eventually i give up and press escape and i get the ubuntu desktop, but with no sound hardware or wireless network access ... and at a term my username is myuser@(none):~$ ... what is wrong with my laptop?17:56
bazhang!xampp | hramy17:56
ubottuhramy: We do not support XAMPP installs here. Please use the LAMP stack that is in our repositories; see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for more information.17:56
atpa8ais this a good channel for help with cloud installation?17:56
k1l_hramy: just use the packages that ubuntu ships17:57
wilee-nileesysRPL, This a fresh install?17:58
sysRPLno, ive used it for a while fine ... this just started happening17:58
tnli'oi, what might be the problem when I get Don't know how to create partitions this partition table of type `(null)' (udisks-error-quark, 0) -error after trying to partition some free space on my drive? This with ubuntu 13.417:58
sysRPLand i can boot to another install by changing the drive and everything works okay17:58
wilee-nileesysRPL, Any info thats leads to this conundrum?17:59
sysRPLwilee-nilee: i don't know what else to describe17:59
wilee-nileesysRPL, Sure, any backups or images of the working OS?17:59
sysRPLwilee-nilee: no ... i can get to the desktop. it's just that i have that weird prompt when i open a terminal window and my network/sound doen't work18:01
HappyNewYear13where do i get firefox support, no one answers me in #firefox18:02
ikoniadefine firefox help18:03
acidrainHappyNewYear13, pm me with what issues youa re having18:03
HappyNewYear13thanks acidrain18:03
wilee-nileeacidrain, Help is what the channel is for.18:03
ikoniaplease don't pm people for help - support is dealt with in the main window18:03
acidrainwilee-nilee, admin will flame me with ubottu saying im offtopic18:03
wilee-nileesysRPL, Not sure myself, sorry.18:04
ikoniano, that's why we've asked "what's the problem"18:04
ikoniaif it's not for this channel we can point it off to the right channel18:04
acidrainikonia, he just msg me. it is off topic18:04
OerHeksacidrain, now somebody with the same issue cannot have the benefit of the help here.18:05
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acidrainOerHeks, here is his question: HappyNewYear13> i'm trying to change the character encoding to another but when i restart firefox (version 22) it goes back to the previous setting. how do i make it last?18:06
HappyNewYear13then i asked him if he wanted to cyber18:07
acidrainwhich i said yes to. Connecting...18:07
ikoniaHappyNewYear13: acidrain guys, grow up, not in this channel please.18:09
OerHeksIf character encoding setting is not working, check if autodetect is unselected > http://askubuntu.com/questions/267913/why-does-firefox-display-an-instead-of-an-e18:09
OerHeksand the coding is matching the coding of the webpage, ofcourse.18:10
acidrainikonia, see this is why i always get ban. because when the channel is dead. and no one is talking. u refuse to have some fun and humor in your life. during the prime of this channel's busy hours, i do not even speak if its not a positive helpful comment. ikonia you should try it, may see u happy  man. im only caring for u18:10
ikoniaacidrain: there are other channels for messing around in, please take it to there18:11
HappyNewYear13thanks OerHeks. yes, i have autodetect unselected, so it must be the website18:11
chaz68Anybody good at EFI using rEFIt on MacBook?18:11
OerHeksHappyNewYear13, check with 'view page source' what coding is used18:11
chaz68Got Mac OSX installed and Windows 8 installed.  Going for the triple boot...18:12
jlucdoes unity rely on compiz or is it possible to use unity without using compiz ?18:13
k1l_jluc: yes its a compiz plugin18:13
k1l_jluc: but that will be changed with the new unity next release which will be based on MIR18:14
jlucok18:14
OerHekschaz68, did you check the mactel pages ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages18:14
jluci planned to uninstall compiz but i like the way to launch an app mentionning its first letters18:14
jlucso i guess i have to keep compiz18:15
jlucjust making it as light as possible18:15
k1l_jluc: yep. dont uninstall compiz if you want to use unity :)18:15
chaz68OerHeks:  I will check those pages.  EFI is really confusing sometimes...18:16
afiefI upgraded my 64bit 11.10 to 12.04, now steam and zsnes (among other things) stopped working, they complain about missing the 32bit libGL.so.1. Anybody know where I can get that? (I use the Intel graphics driver)18:17
chaz68OerHeks:  That MacTel page has to be really old...  They don't even list 12.04, 12.10, 13.04.   My understanding is that these are the only ones supporting EFI / UEFI.18:20
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silareI'm trying to work on Vala, but I won't have Internet next week. Where / How do I download the contents of http://www.valadoc.org/ so I have offline docs?18:23
OerHekschaz68, macbookpro is updated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro else see this EFI page is updated 6/13 http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/index.html18:24
Konatasilare, you could use a crawler18:25
Konataand create an offline copy18:25
Konatabut ask the owner of that site for permission before you start doing that18:25
Konatalol18:25
silareKonata: I've been playing with `wget`, though I haven't had so much luck with it... IT's downloaded a lot of unnecessary stuff. xD And I haven't been able to reach the owner. :X18:25
silareI'm more looking to see if they have some nice ZIP archive online like Java might. ^_^;18:26
Konatathere's a java tool18:26
Konataagain18:26
silareA Java tool? o.O18:26
KonataYeah18:26
Konatathere's a tool i used once that runs as a jar18:26
Konataor something18:26
silareDo you remember the name of it? :o18:26
bekksjdownloader? :)18:26
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bekksBasically, wget is the tool of choice, since it can download an entire site.18:27
bekksBut you really should ask for permission before crawling that site.18:27
KonataYeah18:27
silareYea... x_x Which I think might be hard. For some reason I was also wondering if the Vala docs were stored offline in an installation too.18:27
Konatabecause it uses tons of bandwidth if the site is huge18:27
silareLike how I think Android's SDK stores their docs in `docs`.18:28
silareAnd the site is huge. xD So that would be a bad thing...18:28
bekkssilare: Then dont crawl, but ask the owner on how to get an offline copy.18:29
silarebekks: Might be a better idea...18:29
maxkollideHi, does anyone here know anything about the new MAAS service?18:30
moesI have a launcher that tries to open a file rather than the program...how do I change the command on the launcher18:31
bekksmoes: Whats "MAAS"?18:31
OerHeksmetal as a service.http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/orchestration18:31
karlmhok, i've got the normal ubuntu desktop running (12.04 LTS), and I've started gnome-panel and put the side bar on auto-hide. I really like this setup except for 1 thing, how can i keep windows from maximizing where their menu is up on my top panel? So they would maximize like they would in gnome ?18:32
moesbekks, I have no idea It is not my question18:32
bekksmoes: Sorry tab failure :)18:33
knobGuys, how can I install ffmpeg on a ubuntu installation I have?18:35
knobI am not running a GUI, everything is done via ssh18:35
sasha|O hai18:35
th0rknob, sudo apt-get install ffmpeg?18:35
sasha|I was just wondering, how easy would it be to set up wireshark to sniff packets that get passed through the same network switch that it is connected to?18:35
knobth0r, trying that now18:36
knobthanks!18:36
bekkssasha|: Very easy.18:36
sasha|bekks: doable in under 20 minutes before top gear starts?18:37
bekkssasha|: For me - yes. For you - I dont know. :)18:37
th0rbekks, sasha| I think it will only work if the NIC permits promiscuous mode. Not all NICs do18:37
bekksth0r: Correct.18:37
sasha|it's a simple net gear switch, no control over it as far as I can tell18:38
sasha|however I do have a DD-WRT router further down the line18:38
bekkssasha|: The switch is irrelevant at that point.18:38
chaz68Didn't know there was a MAC version of Ubuntu.  Thanks for the link OerHeks.18:39
irecthe switch would need a port mirrored... otherwise you would only hear broadcast traffic18:39
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sasha|I'm looking for http requests18:39
sasha|basically it's a IPTV box, which can record streams but then it locks them18:40
sasha|when I open the files on my computer, which are MPEG2, they are encrypted18:40
sasha|so I'm looking to find this encryption key18:40
irecor you would need to crash mac table and turn it into a hub18:40
bekkssasha|: So they are encrypted, and sniffing packets will be useless.18:40
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IdikoHello.18:40
IdikoThis is Idiko.18:40
Idiko:)18:41
IdikoGuys, how can I run vb6 programs thru mono on Ubuntu?18:41
sasha|bekks: I was talking with a technician from my ISP, and he said that it is possible if you capture the key18:41
IdikoAnybody here?18:41
Idikosasha|, hello.18:41
sasha|Idiko: hello18:41
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Idikosasha|: never trust ISP's.18:42
sasha|ok18:42
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Idikosasha|: I have hacked into a few ISPs and I noticed that they monitor your packets.18:42
Idikothey know your facebook passwords.18:42
Idikotherefore, putting your trust on a ISP is riskful.18:42
sasha|Idiko: really18:42
Idikoyes, sasha|18:42
IdikoThey are teamed up with NSA.18:42
Pumpkin-...18:42
sasha|how did they know our passwords?18:43
Idiko99% of American ISP's are working accordingly with the NSA.18:43
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Idikothey monitor your packets, you silly.18:43
Idikowhen you login, the packets are sent back to the ISP.18:43
sasha|ok, and how do they know the password?18:43
Idikoand those packets, contain your passwords and goodies.18:43
Idikolemme tell you in this way18:43
Idikoa packet is like a big bag18:43
Idikofull of passwords..etc18:43
th0rah....now it is the paranoia channel18:43
Idikoand that bag is sent to the ISP.18:44
th0rmuch more entertaining18:44
Idikoth0r; yes, I agree.18:44
sasha|right, so you hacked into the ISP and saw all these packets being stored?18:44
Idikoyes, sasha|18:44
IdikoI am Snowden.18:44
Idiko:)18:44
Pumpkin-it is entertaining, but sadly not very useful18:44
sasha|ok18:44
sasha|and inside the packets was your password in plain text?18:44
bazhang!ot18:44
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:44
Idikosasha|, all I know is that they monitor your packets.18:44
Idikobazhang; yes, I know.18:45
IdikoI am Snowden btw :)18:45
bazhanglets stop this18:45
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snowdenokay sorry guys18:45
moesI have a launcher that tries to open a file rather than the program...how do I change the command on the launcher...12.04lts18:45
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edwardsnowdenmoes; I do not know.18:45
BluesKajIdiko, and we;re so important that the NSA is gonna monitor a bunch of guys chatting on irc18:46
bazhangedwardsnowden, then dont answer18:46
sasha|Ok, so you're saying that ISPs record your packets? I'm pretty sure that all of your https traffic is encrypted and your password is compared against a hash18:46
edwardsnowdenBluesKaj; I worked with NSA, google "edward snowden"18:46
SarcasticDoes anyone know why http://pastebin.com/inBvwZJ2 doesn't affect my screen resolution18:46
bazhangsasha|, thats not on topic here18:46
sasha|they would need to do a mitm attack which would be very obvious to have your password18:47
bazhangtry ##security18:47
sasha|bazhang: good call. So how can I set up the promiscuous mode?18:47
SarcasticI've got a problem with my resolution18:48
Sarcasticit's fixed at the default ubuntu one18:48
Sarcastici'm using a radeon 5450 gpu but have had no luck installing drivers18:48
Sarcasticso trying to configure xorg but it's not changing anything.18:48
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moesI have a launcher that tries to open a file rather than the program...how do I change the command on the launcher..12.04 lts18:59
SarcasticIs anyone here good with Xorg.conf ?18:59
deanrock0hi, which email client do you recommend?18:59
aguitelany clues why panoramio photos in google earth are blank frames ?18:59
ActionParsnipsarcastic: a little18:59
th0rmoes, what is the program and what does the launcher say now?18:59
cor_rSarcastic, just ask19:00
cor_rdeanrock0, thunder bird or claws mail19:00
jluci use thunderbird and liket it deanrock019:00
ActionParsnipdeanrock0: thunderbird is default installed. I use webmail19:00
SarcasticI did ask before: I can't get my resolution sorted with xorg.conf, here is the code: http://pastebin.com/inBvwZJ219:00
cor_rs/thunderbird19:00
deanrock0is thunderbird still being developed? last time i heard that they stopped developing it19:01
ActionParsnipsarcastic: try adding a dpi line in the file19:01
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MonkeyDustdeanrock0  source? I sill use thunderbird19:02
irecdeanrock0: latest release v.17.0.7, released: June 25, 201319:03
ActionParsnipdeanrock0: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/17.0.6/releasenotes/19:03
deanrock0i googled it and wikipedia says that mozilla offers only security and maintenance updates, feature development is now responsibility of the community19:04
ActionParsnipdeanrock0: whoever told you that is making stuff up and/or has no idea what they are talking about19:04
SarcasticActionParsnip: How would I be able to do that19:04
deanrock0i guess i misunderstood it last time i heard about it19:04
ActionParsnipdeanrock0: yeah. wikipedia over the mozilla website....i know whch Id trust19:04
ActionParsnipsarcastic: seek and ye shall find19:05
SarcasticActionParsnip: Is it the display size bit? # in millimeters ?19:06
ActionParsnipsarcastic: here is mine: http://db.tt/cVuXAqdu19:10
moesThor, The program is Moneydance and it list the file numbers from the saved files19:10
Thormoes: what?19:11
midnightninjaDoes anyone know if the windows bootmanager is needed to boot into windows from grub?  my windows bootmanager is heavily borked from easybcd19:11
ActionParsnipmidnightninja: i believe grub will boot windows on its own. You can chroot to the installed OS from livecd and reinstate grub. you dont need easybcd19:12
peppnilciao19:13
peppnil!list19:13
ubottupeppnil: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».19:13
moesThor, The program is Moneydance a third party financial manager..The launcher shows the file rather than the program..I can open it with /opt/Moneydance/moneydance19:13
ActionParsnipmidnightninja: there is a guide at omgubuntu called: sticking it to grub19:13
Thormoes: You mean to highlight someone else perhaps?19:13
th0rmoes, if you can launch the program from a terminal with that command, just change the launcher to read that...../opt/Money.......19:14
ActionParsnipmoes: if you make a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications it will show in Dash19:14
th0rmoes, you might also tell the launcher to start in that directory19:14
Taar779Hello, when I run xrandr the HDMI port doesn't appear. Does anyone know why it's not there? I'm sure there is some package I'm missing but after a few hours or googling I haven't come up with a solution.19:14
ActionParsniptaar779: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue19:15
moesthor/that is what I am try to do change the launcher command19:15
harrishow do i pastebin something from the terminal19:15
harriswithout opening browser19:15
ActionParsnipharris: install pastebinit19:16
MonkeyDustharris  [command]19:16
MonkeyDustharris  [command] | pastebinit19:16
ActionParsnipharis: then pipe the text to pastebinit19:16
MonkeyDust(new keyboard, not used to it yes)19:16
th0rmoes, if you are running the ubuntu desktop you change the file  /usr/share/applications/MoneyManager.desktop19:16
Thormoes: I got no idea what you are talking about, you perhaps ment to highlight th0r19:16
Thormoes: 0 not o19:16
th0rThor, yup.....a case of case19:16
Taar779ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 13.04 \n19:16
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ActionParsnipharris: eg: grep -i time /etc/default/grub | pastebinit19:17
ActionParsniptaar779: and does the system have a make and model?19:17
harrishey its action parsnip19:17
ActionParsnipharris: the same :-)19:18
harriswhats up19:18
ActionParsnipharris: for real laziness pipe to xclip after that19:18
midnightninjato clarify my point about what happened, i am dual booting, and used easybcd from windows.  My ubuntu partition is not functional yet, but my goal for now is to restore the windows mbr19:18
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ActionParsnipmidnightninja: then ask in ##windows19:18
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olsoneahi folks, i'm trying to mount an external usb hard drive, but it's not automounting. i'm not sure where to poke to make it work. any takers?19:19
midnightninjaokay, i figured since grub is acting up as well, id ask in here19:19
Taar779ActionParsnip, Asus N76 laptop which has optimus so I'm thinking that might be the issue but I'm not sure.19:19
JughashviliKobaGood evening!19:19
ActionParsnipolsonea: what file system is the partition (you dont mount drives)19:19
SarcasticActionParsnip: sorry, had to do something. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Display_Size_and_DPI <-- this was what I searched and found19:19
ActionParsniptaar779: why did you not put all that in the initial question. Ratherthan me having to ask?19:20
swolsonea: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB could be of interest.19:20
ActionParsnipsarcastic: my file has the dpi line set. give it a go19:20
olsoneaActionParsnip: not sure. a friend gave it to me, and i know she used to have a mac, but now she's on windows 7, so it could be anything19:20
wilee-nileemidnightninja, So can you boot windows at all, and is this W8?19:20
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midnightninjaI cannot boot windows or ubuntu19:20
SarcasticActionParsnip: Is that your own xorg or was that made for me?19:20
midnightninjai have a 1300$ brick19:20
midnightninjaand it is w819:21
SarcasticActionParsnip: Oh I used a website and found that mine is 96x96 :)19:21
olsoneasw: thanks. read that article, but it's not in /media19:21
ActionParsnipolsonea: i bet they didnt safe remove the drive when they finished with it. Id put it in a windows box and xhkdsk it. Then safe remove it as you should and I bet its ok19:21
Taar779ActionParsnip, never crossed my mind that maybe I should.19:21
wilee-nileemidnightninja, For future reference the W8 most likely UEFI is like really important info.19:21
ActionParsnipsarcastic: its my own.19:21
midnightninjagotcha19:22
SarcasticActionParsnip: If I recall correctly, is DPMS the energy star option?19:22
ActionParsniptaar779: please do in future. Have you got bumblebee installed?19:22
olsoneaActionParsnip: the only windows-based machines i have are virtual :/19:22
knobth0r, your suggestion did it.  Thanks =)19:22
ActionParsnipolsonea: if you have it connected and run: sudo fdisk -l19:22
SarcasticActionparsnip: Oh, found this: As of Xorg 1.8 DPMS is auto detected and enabled if ACPI is also enabled at kernel runtime.19:22
knobth0r, re: the ffmpeg install19:22
ActionParsnipolsonea: is it ntfs based?19:22
olsoneaActionParsnip: it very well may be19:23
JomHello19:23
ActionParsnipsarcastic: yes. you can turn it off if you want too19:23
moesth0r..Under properties it shows bin/sh" /opt.Moneydance/moneydance" and open correctly but at the launcher it show the file name19:23
wilee-nileemidnightninja, I would ask in ##windows on getting the windows boot back, uefi is a bit tricky I would not mess with the 3rd party booter, which may have been in response to this predicament.19:23
midnightninjaah okay19:23
olsoneaActionParsnip: sudo fdisk -l does not list the drive when connected19:23
SarcasticActionParsnip: In front of modeline, there's a # - should I remove that?19:23
ActionParsnipolsonea: bad drive use causes issues. mac users are far from smart so Im betting they never safe removed the storage before unpluggong it physically19:24
olsoneaheh19:24
olsoneacould be19:24
midnightninjaany chance that anyone know how to restore uefi and windows boot manager to default settings while removing grub?19:24
ActionParsnipsarcastic: its free to try19:24
ActionParsnipmidnightninja: did you try the omgubuntu guide I suggested19:24
shankstaBytesKDE apps actually look pretty good in Unity19:25
SarcasticActionParsnip: Is sudo stop lightdm sufficient or do I need to completely reboot my system?19:25
Taar779ActionParsnip, yes I have bumblebee installed and working.19:25
JomI'm having some problems with Thunar, there are no icons, and it's not appearing to have the gtk-3.0 theme; both of which I set using LXappearance.19:25
JomAny suggestions?19:25
ActionParsnipsarcastic: i use: killall -u $USER19:25
olsoneaActionParsnip: thanks for your time19:25
ActionParsniptaar779: then i have no idea. maybe others can advise19:26
trismJom: thunar is not gtk3 (yet)19:26
ActionParsniptrism: aww man. thunar needs some love19:27
shankstaBytesso what kind of performance hit would i take using dolphin and gwen inside Unity?19:27
Sarcastic_ActionParsnip: After running that command and relogging back in, nothing changed19:27
shankstaBytesisn't the required libraries for QT included by default?19:27
ActionParsnipshankstabytes: none. you'll load more libs to ram but otherwise youll be fine19:27
midnightninjaActionParsnip: found it, and watching now19:28
chaz68Is it true you can only run 10.04 on MacBook 1,1 versions?  I just booted the 13.04 MAC version ubuntu and it seems to be running OK though wireless is disabled.19:28
shankstaBytesActionParsnip: cool19:28
shankstaBytesActionParsnip: i got plenty of that19:28
Taar779ActionParsnip, Do you if there are drivers for HDMI that I could be missing?19:29
ActionParsniptaar779: i have no experience of optimus. i think it is a nasty hack19:29
chaz68https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook?action=show&redirect=Macbook19:29
ActionParsniptaar779: are there any youtube vids on how it can be setup maybe19:29
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Sarcastic_ActionParsnip: If it helps, here's my xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/sc7PBT2119:30
ActionParsnipchaz68: if it runs then who cares19:30
chaz68Kind of what I think, too...  Just like they tell you on Apple that you can't run Windows 8 on this hardware...19:31
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chaz68(Running Win 8 and Mac OS/X now... though I will probably have to play with some drivers it looks like.)19:31
Sarcastic_chaz68, don't think anyone would want to run Windows 8 anyways19:31
Sarcastic_chaz68, well not me anyway :P19:32
ActionParsnipsarcastic: my manager loves it19:32
chaz68Doing this setup for a buddy with a MacBook.19:32
chaz68Don't use Windows 8 a whole lot myself.19:32
Sarcastic_ActionParsnip: Windows 7 ftw... of course Ubuntu is better when they get better support for GPU's :P19:32
midnightninjaanother question, is there a good manner of fixing the efi invalid path error in grub? ive tried boot repair  but it doesnt help19:33
wilee-nileemidnightninja, Get this app in the link, run just the bootinfo summary and save the url, post it here for help, and really a thread at the ubuntu forums would be smart as well, with that url in it. bootrepair does repairs, however I would only run it if directed to do so, your fix may be a cli approach for various reasons. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair19:33
chaz68seeking the elusive triple boot OS/X, Win8, and Ubuntu setup...19:33
Sarcastic_Oh and also notice the _ at the end of my name now... so I get notified :P19:33
ActionParsnipsarcastic: depends on needs really. Never had an issue wiyh GPU support innLinux. Games run great19:33
Taar779ActionParsnip, xrandr doesn't show the hdmi port which means it's not being detected. I don't think bumblebee has a setting to turn on hdmi.19:33
midnightninjaalright will do19:33
Sarcastic_Actionparsnip: From your xorg you have a laptop19:33
Sarcastic_May I ask what it is?19:34
ActionParsnipsarcastic: no its an Asus P1-AH2 Pundit19:34
Sarcastic_ActionParsnip: Oh, it says in the xorg it has Intel M chipset which is for laptops :?19:35
ActionParsnipsarcastic: ahhh thats one I made someone19:35
Sarcastic_:p19:35
ActionParsnipsarcastic: let me pastebin mine19:35
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Sarcastic_I really need to sort out this resolution problem :19:35
Sarcastic_:|19:35
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ActionParsnipsarcastic: http://db.tt/OIWmeeGt19:36
Sarcastic_Fair enough19:37
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NitaChanIs it just me or does anyone else get kernel crash every time you try to mount a F2FS-partition?19:38
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MonkeyDustNitaChan  wipefs, scroll down -->19:39
MonkeyDusthttps://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=16570519:39
MonkeyDustNitaChan  it's for arch, but maybe it's useful19:40
ispirtodo you know how i can use regular connection for torrents and vpn for evrything else on ubuntu19:40
wilee-nileeNitaChan, With a quick glance I see in this arch wiki a reference to a kernel module. This might applicable with the other link. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/F2fs19:40
NitaChanNope, neither of those are applicable19:42
SarcasmAnyone know what's wrong with my Xorg? Here's a log http://pastebin.com/sc7PBT2119:42
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wilee-nileeNitaChan, askubuntu has some threads have you looked there.19:44
NitaChanNot yet, no19:44
NitaChanI just popped in here to check if anyone else gets a kernel crash19:44
wilee-nileeNitaChan, I have never messed with that setup, so just passing possibilities on. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=F2FS19:45
MonkeyDusti had never heard of f2fs before now19:45
NitaChanIt's a filesystem designed for flash-media19:45
wilee-nileeme neither, MonkeyDust. yeah I was seeing that NitaChan19:46
NitaChanFrom what I can tell there's a bug in the Ubuntu-kernel. Can't say if there's one in the official one.19:46
olsoneaActionParsnip: thought i'd follow up to let you know it turned out to be a bad cable :)19:47
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ActionParsnipolsonea: dowwwh19:48
ActionParsnipnitachan: whats wrong with ext2 ?19:49
datmaniachow can i save the output to a file from a command that the output is constant?19:49
NitaChanNo wear-levelling, for one.19:49
NitaChanAlso, ext2 is not designed to take advantage of flash-media's specific attributes, it's geared for spinning media.19:49
wilee-nileeNitaChan, Thing is that modern SSD have the same wear as a disc now so one can get a bit OCD on protecting it.19:50
NitaChanThere's a benchmark up on Phoronix, F2FS beats the other tested filesystems quite handily19:50
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NitaChanwilee-nilee: I am not using an SSD, I am using a knock-off SDHC-card. Those often come without wear-levelling.19:50
wilee-nileeNitaChan, I rest my case. ;)19:52
chaz68how big of a partition should the grub bootloader have?19:52
CookieMonster_ActionParsnip: The monitor wouldn't affect any of this would it?19:52
wilee-nileechaz68, A boot partition is rarely needed.19:52
ActionParsnipcookiemonster: affect what?19:52
chaz68OK... Should I "continue without bootloader on my MacBook install?19:53
Dr_willisa bootloader is differnt then a 'bootloader partition'19:53
wilee-nileechaz68, macbook not sure have you seen the wiki?19:53
wilee-nilee!mac19:54
ubottuFor help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages19:54
wilee-nileechaz68, there is one I have seen here.19:54
ActionParsnipnitachan: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_310fs_fourway&num=419:55
ActionParsnipnitachan: its actually slower in some cases. id have stuck with ext4.....19:56
ActionParsnipnitachan: it seems to excel accessing lots of small files quickly but for the average user opening and manipulating files it doesnt really offer much. I dont get how you think this is advantageous or "beats" other filesystems19:57
CookieMonster_Actionparsnip: It's me, Sarcastic in disguise :O19:57
ActionParsnipcookiemonster: gotcha19:57
ActionParsnipcookiemonster: edid should be used in an ideal world. it should report its abilities19:58
shankstaBytesawesome did you guys know you can actually enable KDE Plasma Widgets on Unity19:58
MonkeyDustshankstaBytes  sounds a bit overkill19:59
shankstaBytesMonkeyDust: KDE has a ton of good stuff19:59
shankstaBytesmy computer is so fast I could probably run all the DEs out at the same time and it would be nothing20:00
BluesKajshankstaBytes, sounds like you should just install kde and kubuntu-desktop and forget unity20:00
shankstaBytesnah im gonna blur the lines20:00
shankstaBytesmerge everything20:00
BluesKajredundancy20:01
shankstaByteseach has good parts i just want them all20:01
ActionParsnipshankstabytes: if you can find the command to launch the plasma widgets then sure..why not20:01
shankstaBytesActionParsnip: thats the attitude :D20:01
shankstaByteswhat if i compiled unity without the launcher20:03
shankstaBytesyou think people would want that as a PPA?20:04
ActionParsnipshankstabytes: its just an addon for compiz.....20:04
shankstaBytesis it20:04
ActionParsnipshankstabytes: yes. nothing more20:04
CookieMonster_Guys how do I make a xrandr script ?20:05
bekksCookieMonster_: What do you want your script to do?20:06
CookieMonster_set screen resolution20:06
CookieMonster_It's after failed attempts to edit xorg20:07
bekksCookieMonster_: How did they fail when you did what exactly?20:07
CookieMonster_This is my current xorg, I'm fixed at 1024x768.20:08
CookieMonster_http://pastebin.com/inBvwZJ220:08
bekksCookieMonster_: That doesnt answer my question. :)20:08
CookieMonster_I've been trying to get out of the fixed resolution, using xorg - it's not affecting anything. I've asked ActionParsnip20:09
tenguixanyone know where I could find decent audio support for oracle/java20:10
bekksCookieMonster_: Your commented modeline in your config will not work. You cannot set a Vertical Refresh rate of 55-75Hz, and then use 85.86Hz.20:10
MonkeyDusttenguix  start by explaining what went wrong20:11
CookieMonster_What do you recommend I do :S - is that the same as the 60HZ advertised figure?20:11
tenguixnothing has gone wrong, but I'm taking a processing course and I've managed to scrape by without having any audio work at all, using those java libraries.20:11
shankstaBytesActionParsnip: if you disable the Unity plugin it also disabled the top bar20:12
shankstaBytesbummer20:12
shankstaBytesi think you would need to compile it without the launcher20:12
ActionParsnipshankstabytes: then install a new panel like lxpanel or tint220:12
ActionParsnipshankstabytes: or even gnome-panel ....imagine20:13
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shankstaBytesya20:15
CookieMonster_bekks do I change that to 60Hz ?20:15
tenguixthe pde (processing IDE) that everything runs from is pretty bogus, but its cross-platform, and it seems linux is more immune to its bugs than anything else. the documentation strongly urges Oracle, claims no support for free jdk/jres.20:15
bekksCookieMonster_: No. Comment out that VertRefresh line if your display supports 86Hz. If not, you cannot use your desired resolution.20:16
tenguixunfortunately, I can't really tell whats going on, because we all know how oracle is :) so I can't dick around with the code and make it work.20:16
CookieMonster_bekks: Do I remove the horizontal part as well20:16
MonkeyDusttenguix  try #java or ##java20:16
bekksCookieMonster_: Only if your display supports that. Did you check that already?20:16
tenguixMonkeyDust: thanks20:17
tenguixMonkeyDust: invite-only?20:18
CookieMonster_bekks My monitor says it's running at 45Hz horizontal and 60 vertical. Does that affect anything?20:19
bekksCookieMonster_: Thats not answering my question.20:19
bekksCookieMonster_: Did you check the specs of your display already - did you check the displays manual, to get the specs?20:19
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CookieMonster_bekks I looked at the website, I'll see if I can get a manual20:20
MonkeyDusttenguix  probably to avoid span and trolling, guess you have to !register first20:20
MonkeyDustspam*20:20
tenguixbleh. I have to use irc more often.20:20
CookieMonster_Bekks: Checking now20:20
tenguixI've just been guessing on all the syntax haha.20:21
CookieMonster_Bekks: The manufacture give no information on it20:22
bekksCookieMonster_: So which make and model is it exactly?20:22
CookieMonster_bekks: Acer S191HQL20:22
CookieMonster_bekks: I was working off this: http://www.gadgetsguru.com/acer-s191hql-185''-led-lcd-monitor-lowest-price-spec-cheap-sale-india-10684.aspx20:23
bekksCookieMonster_: Thats not the manufacturers website. You have an Acer device, not a gadgetsguru one.20:24
CookieMonster_bekks: Like I said, that's the only information I could find20:24
tenguixanyone know how to crack a bios password?20:25
kostkontenguix, just remove the battery from the motherboard20:26
bekksCookieMonster_: Then why do I easily find a manual on Acer's website? :)20:26
jsonperlany reason anyone can think that occasionally all processors would drop to 0% usage for a minute or two20:26
jsonperlubuntu 12.04 32 bit20:26
bekksjsonperl: The reason is "nothing to do".20:26
jsonperlha20:27
jsonperlwhat if they're supposed to be "working real hard"20:27
wilee-nileetenguix, This a placed password or you don't know the access from a manufacturer setup?20:27
bekksjsonperl: Then "your computer knows better".20:27
jsonperlHT quad core... 14 server instances running of a pretty hefty server20:27
jsonperland everything just kinda haults for no apparent reason20:28
jsonperlor any hints on where to look to find out why?20:28
wilee-nileejsonperl, This a ubuntu server?20:28
tenguixwilee-nilee: mine20:28
jsonperlyes, its ubuntu20:29
jsonperl12.0420:29
jsonperl32 bit20:29
wilee-nileejsonperl, #ubuntu-server may be helpful20:29
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CookieMonster_bekks: I forgot to say I did look in the manual too. Have fun looking :)20:29
wilee-nileetenguix, No reset the bios apps from the manufacturer maybe?20:30
CookieMonster_bekks: I wonder where else they might put any information20:30
Guest49373j ubuntu-br20:31
CookieMonster_bekks: You never know, gadgetgurus may be the dominating monitor brand of the world who own Acer?20:31
tenguixwilee-nilee: I'm trying to upgrade the bios anyways, do you know if there's a linux way?20:31
wilee-nileetenguix, Many bios upgrades have a bootable iso.20:31
tenguixwilee-nilee: this one doesnt20:31
bekksCookieMonster_: The information is contained in the manual. I am currently looking at it. So you can and will find it too.20:32
tenguixwilee-nilee: computer came preinstalled with windows 7 - needless to say, it sucked hard, then it uninstalled its own bootloader upon upgrading itself. terrible. terrible platform. i have an HP635 - standard laptop, decent graphics card. in terms of bios upgrades and such, its all for windows.20:32
wilee-nileetenguix, I have run them that way and from windows, I have seen web info on linux use with specific bios's, you will probably have to mine for that like the rest of us at times. ;)20:32
paullushello all ;)20:33
wilee-nileetenguix, The service pack needed a bootloader reload for some, easy fix really.20:33
CookieMonster_bekks: Standard Timing Table?20:33
CookieMonster_bekks: So I'm assuming that's what I put in the modeline20:34
tenguixwilee-nilee: you willing to boss me around for a minute, some baby steps?20:34
bekksCookieMonster_: Nope. Just specify the desired resolution with the supported refresh rate.20:34
wilee-nileetenguix, Not sure if I can help, as far as the bios, the bootloader would be my area.20:35
CookieMonster_bekks: "1368x768_60.00" 85.86 1368 1440 1584 1800 768 769 772 795 -HSync +Vsync <-- do I change the 85.86 to 60?20:35
SierraARI need to grant a usergroup permissions to upload/write files to a specific directory via SFTP. I'd thought chown -hR groupname /path/to/dir would work, but it doesn't appear so.20:35
SierraARThe user I'm logging into is in the group I used chown with20:35
bekksCookieMonster_: Forget the modeline.20:35
CookieMonster_bekks: Just the prefered bit?20:35
CookieMonster_Option "PreferredMode" "1366x768"20:36
CookieMonster_?20:36
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tenguixwilee-nilee: is there a way i can use grub2 as a bios drop-in, the way some people can run efi like a secondary bios20:36
bekksCookieMonster_: That would be a first approach.20:36
CookieMonster_Right done that.20:37
tenguixwilee-nilee: seeing as how there is actually a grub2-bios package... ? i'm not entirely sure where to go from there, because grub is running wonderfully as is :)20:37
CookieMonster_I also edited the bit in screen I think it was20:37
CookieMonster_yeah.20:37
CookieMonster_Should I sudo stop lightdm it ?20:38
CookieMonster_bekks: I also deleted the modeline20:38
bekksCookieMonster_: You have to restart your X server.20:38
danielboston26hi20:39
CookieMonster_bekks: So restart lightdm. OK20:39
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daniryim having a very strange issue20:39
wilee-nileetenguix, I just know msdos mbr stuff and reloading it and purge and repair of grub and rebulid bcd.20:39
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CookieMonster__bekks: You're a genius. It worked.20:40
SierraARI see my problem actually.. The group itself doesn't have write perms20:40
bekksCookieMonster__: You're welcome. :)20:40
tenguixwilee-nilee: is there any way to write to the smbios filesystem20:40
danirywhen i t ype it for some reason the front screen both losses focus and sometimes it goes back and types over what i just wrote20:40
daniryanyone have any idea why t does this?20:40
wilee-nileetenguix, No idea.20:40
daniryim using unbuntu 13.04 on xfce 4.020:41
daniryubuntu(20:41
CookieMonster__bekks: Taken so long just to do that. If I could I'd send you money. But I don't have money. Instead you can have a cookie. http://freeinternetcookies.com/20:41
wilee-nileetenguix, I have to imagine you are not the only one this has happened to, and that there are options to be found.20:41
ActionParsnipdaniry: is the OS fully updated?20:41
daniryyes20:42
bekksCookieMonster__: As long as you dont tell my wife - I'll take the cookies :P20:42
ActionParsnipcookiemonster__: now backup the file :-P20:42
tenguixwilee-nilee: yes, youre right. ive just been looking for about a year now, and no answers.20:42
CookieMonster__ActionParsnip: And thanks to you, too :P20:42
daniryActionParsnip:  OS is updated20:43
ActionParsnipcookiemonster__: no worries. glad you got the gold20:43
daniryActionParsnip: it seems like its a mouse issue20:43
tenguixwilee-nilee: well thanks, its good to know that it CAN be done.20:43
danirybut im not touching the house20:43
ActionParsnipdaniry: is it a clean install or did you upgrade from Oneiric?20:43
tenguixwilee-nilee: might just have to be something I designate as an ongoing project instead of a problem :)20:43
wilee-nileetenguix, So you still have windows and it boots, I can't tell.20:44
CookieMonster__ActionParsnip: Even if it does take months and months, as well as a few failed startups and a dead Ubuntu partition for the months :P20:44
daniryActionParsnip: clean install20:44
ActionParsnipdaniry: quantal...sorry20:44
ActionParsnipdaniry: thats good. lots easier20:44
tenguixwilee-nilee: no, i ran the recovery utility and it made things worse!20:44
daniryActionParsnip: actually i installed xfce ontop of unity20:44
ActionParsnipdaniry: does the system have a make and model20:44
daniryi removed unity first20:44
ActionParsnipdaniry: thats fine. unity isnt even loaded.20:45
daniryActionParsnip: you mean what computer am i using?20:45
tenguixwilee-nilee: windows sucks pretty hard. i used to be windows man, but now i actually like apple products more. and thats disgusting.20:45
ActionParsnipdaniry: yes20:45
CookieMonster__Bekks: Now the next thing is getting AMD drivers to work for my Radeon HD 5450 xD20:45
wilee-nileetenguix, I would get the oem set from the manufacturer, I just image all OS's and have gotten the oem's as well never know when ine might like to see.20:45
daniryActionParsnip: its an asus q500a20:45
wilee-nileesell*20:45
bekksCookieMonster__: That should have been the first thing, not the second.20:45
ActionParsnipdaniry: are you using a usb mouse or touchpad?20:45
daniryActionParsnip: touchpad20:45
BumptiousI switched last year.. there was quite awhile where software that ran on os x was quite limited compared to windows20:46
Bumptiousit's not as much the case now20:46
CookieMonster__bekks: Trying to install the AMD drivers was why I resorted to xorg.conf - I had a countless number of broken systems :|20:46
tenguixwilee-nilee: i didn't quite understand the last half20:46
ActionParsnipdaniry: do you have the latest BIOS20:46
CookieMonster__Bekks: I'll also upload the xorg to dropbox or something so I can't lose it :P20:46
bekksCookieMonster__: The first step should have been to install the correct driver.20:46
tenguixCookieMonster__: tried fglrx-12?20:47
CookieMonster__tenguix: Probably20:47
Bumptiousi had tried to switch to os x about 4 times in the last 10 years20:47
CookieMonster__I was on the IRC channel ages ago and no one knew what was wrong. I don't really want to risk it atm :|20:47
tenguixCookieMonster__: I'm running it now, radeon 6310. first fglrx driver that's given me performance as good as windows, graphically, and with no bugs upon booting.20:48
wilee-nileetenguix, Basically I set myself up for failure response, I clone the OS, I also get the oem's, as the sale market is a bit finicky on wanting MS in places. In other words tools to fix what ever can happen, you should at least have the recovery disc W7 burns.20:48
CookieMonster__tenguix: You're tempting me... but I don't want to risk it. But I do have my xorg sorted in case.20:48
tenguixCookieMonster__: I ruined every install I've ever done because of the old drivers20:49
tenguixCookieMonster__: Literally, every one of them came to an end because of the broken link groups, etc. from the fglrx nonsense, trying to repair my xorg manually20:49
tenguixCookieMonster__: If you run out of options, start over and install that one if you're gonna install any of them. for now, if it works, keep it.20:50
CookieMonster__tenguix:  I've tried most of the AMD driver options and none of them worked for me. Not sure if I should give fglrx-12 a go20:50
tenguixCookieMonster__: But it doesnt really matter anymore cause kernel 3.10 has native support almost as good as amd's drivers themselves20:51
CookieMonster__tenguix: So would it make much of a difference?20:51
tenguixCookieMonster__: Don't, if you can't code your way out of it. I've learned, but I'm not a hundred percent, to say the least.20:51
tenguixCookieMonster__: Can't say. You have a different card :)20:51
CookieMonster__tenguix: OK, I won't risk it :P20:51
daniryActionParsnip: i think so20:51
daniryActionParsnip: this is a windows 8 computer so it has uefi20:52
daniryActionParsnip: could that be the issue?20:52
ActionParsnipdaniry: dont think so. are there any bugs reported?20:52
tenguixCookieMonster__: go to the amd site and check each fglrx release for your card.20:53
tenguixthey have all of them listed somewhere...20:53
tenguixtons and tons of whitepapers outlining each card they test.20:53
CookieMonster__bekks: Do you think I should try installing amd drivers or should i just stay with the open source ones20:53
tenguixof course, the driver is still partially proprietar.20:53
bekksCookieMonster__: Its your decision, not mine. I cant tell you anything about AMD, since I'm never ever going to use AMD for graphics :)20:54
daniryActionParsnip: im not sure20:54
TauNeutrinoWhat's the difference between a login shell and a none login shell?20:54
daniryActionParsnip: i haven't reported a bug20:54
CookieMonster__bekks: OK, I'll just stay with open source. I've had too much hassle with AMD drivers for linux. Besides, I have my windows dual boot.20:55
tenguixCookieMonster__: What osversion are you running20:55
tenguixCookieMonster__: nevermind, you made a good choice haha20:56
ActionParsnipdaniry: does a usb mouse work ok?20:56
CookieMonster__tenguix: Ubuntu 12.10 but I'm going to upgrade it now the problem's fixed, and Windows 720:56
daniryActionParsnip: haven't tried it20:56
daniryActionParsnip: don't have one20:56
tenguixYeah, i've got 12.10 too20:56
chaz68Interesting spin.  Couldn't install with Mac-based 13.04 on triple boot setup.  But EFI boot from regular 13.04 setup went smooth as silk.  I used the bootx64.efi from the rEFIt menu.20:56
ActionParsnipdaniry: i suggest you report a bug20:56
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CookieMonster__tenguix: Might wait til 13.10 to upgrade actually.20:57
chaz68what is the MAC 13.04 ISO supposed to provide that the regular 13.04 does not?20:57
ActionParsnipchaz68: just an fyi. Raring is only supported til Jan 201420:57
tenguixCookieMonster__: thats what I'm doing20:57
CookieMonster__tenguix: Been keeping an eye on it with OMGUbuntu and it looks quite good :)20:57
tenguixCookieMonster__: it really does. linus is proud of it.20:58
CookieMonster__tenguix: and when 14.04 comes out, I won't need xorg.conf. I read the comments and they said they're gunna print their xorg.conf and hang it on the wall.20:58
chaz68Thanks.  I presume the upgrade path within the OS will be maintained though.  Presume 14.04 next year will be a 3-5 year LTS release.20:58
reactor16i have managed to install fluxbox + tightvnc , all is okey except when i connect to fluxbox using vnc it not lunch application from ?20:59
reactor16any idea why fluxbox menu not running applications ?20:59
CookieMonster__Tenguix: You also seen how much attention Ubuntu touch is getting? Verizon are part of the advisory team :P20:59
CookieMonster__Tenguix: Might try the beta versions on my nexus 7.20:59
karfes\leave20:59
chaz68Anybody using a good MAC trackpad setup / driver for 13.04?20:59
tenguixCookieMonster__: I'm really not too stoked about the way ubuntu has devolved20:59
ActionParsnipchaz68: yes you can upgrade to 13.10 in October then to the LTS which, as you say will be 5 years supported on desktop and server21:00
tenguixCookieMonster__: the reason I'm sticking with my 12.10 for now is because I can still run xfce with xfconf, no gconf. dont need timestamps. I can just unpack a tar from my homefolder and everything is automaticaly configured, even on live disks :)21:00
tenguixCookieMonster__: what good is linux if you aren't a picky bastard about everything, right?21:00
reactor16any idea !21:00
CookieMonster__tenguix: Lol, I understood hardly any of that :/21:00
CookieMonster__reactor16: Lunch?21:01
tenguixCookieMonster__: Thats okay, you probably have a beautiful desktop environment.21:01
reactor16it won't run from menu21:01
reactor16nothing work except theme change .21:01
reactor16i tried to remove and install it many times21:02
CookieMonster__Tenguix: I can run Ubuntu on my homemade computer but not on my old 512mb laptop which is why I was so eager to fix the problem before :P21:02
ActionParsnipreactor16: what do you connect to achieve via VNC?21:02
CookieMonster__Tenguix: But it must be said, elementary OS is REALLY quick21:02
reactor16i connect to my ubuntu via tighvncserver21:02
tenguixCookieMonster__: I'm happy on a console, most of the time.21:02
CookieMonster__Tenguix: ah21:02
tenguixCookieMonster__: Right now I'm running fbterm on a console, it looks like X.21:02
ActionParsnipreactor16: yes but to do what?21:02
reactor16i have vnc connect21:03
CookieMonster__tenguix: errr... OK :D21:03
reactor16ip:121:03
reactor16i followed this tutorial21:03
reactor16http://left404.com/2012/08/30/vnc-on-an-ubuntu-vps/21:03
tenguixCookieMonster__: Sorry. Maybe I should stop assuming everybody is as wierd about random terminology as I am.21:03
ActionParsnipreactor16: what are you connecting to the server to achieve. Why do you use VNC?21:03
reactor16to use gui of flexbox21:04
CookieMonster__tenguix: I haven't got a clue about desktop environents and stuff except LXDE, XFCE, GNOME, UNITY, KDE and stuff like that21:04
reactor16i want to use firefox21:04
CookieMonster__tenguix: I thought I was quite good at computers :'(21:04
CookieMonster__tenguix: But I have no idea about coding and stuff - I'm useless at all of that21:04
tenguixCookieMonster, xfce is what I was talking about before. so you do know! cheer up.21:04
ActionParsnipreactor16: why not use X forwarding? VNC has zero security. You do knkw that right21:04
reactor16ActionParsnip, can you forward me to an tutorial21:05
reactor16i'm something new to linux21:05
ActionParsnipreactor16: why does it need a tutorual. Just connect to the ssh with: ssh -X user@server21:06
tenguixreactor16: are you trying to show somebody else your desktop21:06
reactor16no only me21:06
tenguixreactor16: so then you dont need vnc.21:06
ActionParsnipreactor16: when you run the browser it will be running on the server but show on the client. Much like citrix21:06
CookieMonster__Reactor16: Do you need remote access? Do you want to control your computer from your phone/tablet?21:07
admin-unalslm21:07
ActionParsnipreactor16: surely if you can connect to a vps you have web access. why not use the locally installed web browser.21:07
reactor16no just want to use firefox and download some stuff21:07
tenguixreactor16: okay. so you dont need vnc.21:07
admin-unalhi21:07
tenguixreactor16: what exactly are you having issues with, regarding your display21:07
tenguixreactor16: or, your desktop.21:07
reactor16lol21:08
ActionParsnipreactor16: if you want to download stuff then install something like uget or fatrat or jdownloader and use that to manage downloads....21:08
reactor16i have slow internet connection at home21:08
CookieMonster__What exactly is he trying to do?21:08
reactor16so i have vps running ubuntu21:08
reactor16and want to download some files from uploads21:08
ActionParsnipreactor16: vnc is fat and slow and runs very badly over slow connections21:08
CookieMonster__Is VPS basically virtual box?21:09
reactor16its kvm21:09
tenguixreactor16: you would be better off just making an ubuntu iso21:09
ActionParsnipcookiemonster__: its a hosted server by a provider21:09
CookieMonster__ActionParsnip: Ahh right. Well this is beginning to confuse me :S21:10
tenguixreactor16: if you want to use a graphical interface, why not just make a bootable ubuntu flashdrive?21:10
CookieMonster__Actionparsnip: I'm a bit confused as to what he's trying to do21:10
reactor16my main problem is slow internet speed21:10
ActionParsnipcookiemonster__: or virtualization. apparently.21:10
reactor16that why i use vps with 10mb/s21:10
CookieMonster__Reactor16: If you've got slow internet I don't think another server will affect yours21:11
reactor16i have all distro on my computer21:11
reactor16some time there are uploads that not support continue download21:11
ActionParsnipreactor16: you'll stil need the data from the vps to your pc down the slow link.....you are just adding an extra hop21:11
reactor16it must be downloaded one time21:11
reactor16the data i download from vps is not problem i wait for it21:12
reactor16;)21:12
ActionParsnipreactor16: just ssh and you can use wget with urls for files.21:12
CookieMonster__Reactor16: A possible option is to move to Kansas and enjoy Google Fiber. https://fiber.google.com/about/21:12
reactor16ActionParsnip, wget not work with all uploadsites21:12
tenguixreactor16: use the -U switch21:13
Pinkamena_DCan anyone recommend what the best software raid is? its a server so has to be commandline21:13
reactor16and also cli not support javascript as browser ;))21:13
tenguixreactor16: 'wget -U "Firefox/5.0" [somewebsite]'21:13
ActionParsnipreactor16: then web browse with the forwarded x session and files will be pulled to the vps21:13
tenguixreactor16: you pretend to be a fancy browser.21:13
reactor16tenguix, what about javascript and counter21:13
CookieMonster__tenguix: This is completely out of my league, I'll just leave now :P21:14
tenguixreactor16: well, if the interface you are pretending to have supports javascript, your page will be sent back with java on it.21:14
reactor16using forwared x21:14
tenguixreactor16: like, if you want to get the embedded content in the pages, you can run a recursive download.21:14
tenguixreactor16: you dont need to forward it to a server, because you can just pretend to be a real browser! :)21:15
harrisActionParsnip, you here21:15
ActionParsnipharris: aye21:15
harrismy laptop has a built in fan why isnt it on but my laptops very hot21:15
ActionParsnipharris: no idea. not enough cats?21:16
harriscats?21:16
tenguixharris: cats21:16
harriswhats that21:16
tenguix,':321:17
ActionParsnipharris: in other words. i have no idea. why not ask the channel instead if just me21:17
harrisbecause you know everything21:17
harrisand your skills are amazing21:18
tenguixwhat version you running21:18
harris13.0421:18
tenguixhmmm.21:18
tenguixgraphics card?21:18
harrisidk21:18
tenguixharris: 'sudo dmidecode -t processor'21:19
harrisType: Central Processor21:20
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tenguixharris: sorry.21:23
tenguixharris: 'sudo dmidecode -t processor |& grep "manufacturer"'21:23
SierraARIs it possible to install a .deb package from the commandline/ssh?21:23
kostkonSierraAR, sudo dpkg -i xxx.deb21:24
rufflesGuys! I need help. I had troubles installing Ubuntu 13.04 on my Dell XPS 14 notebook so I googled a solution and found "sudo dmraid -E -r /dev/sda". It fixed my problem and I could get Ubuntu installed. How can I revert this? I can't enable Intel Rapid Boot from BIOS now.21:24
SierraARkostkon: Thanks21:24
holsteinruffles: might not be albe to do both.. can you just live without "rapid boot"? its a laptop, correct?21:25
rufflesholstein, actually i would like to remove ubuntu and come back to windows 721:26
holsteinruffles: go for it21:26
holsteinruffles: you'll want to ask in a windows venue about recovering the MBR, if that is still the term used for the boot loader21:26
rufflesholstein, I know how to get windows back. All I need to know is how can I revert the dmraid command I did before21:27
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holsteinruffles: where did you get it?21:28
rufflesholstein, i found this solution online for I couldn't get ubuntu installed. It looks like there was some sort of fake raid thing and that dmraid -rE /dev/sda disabled it.21:29
holsteinruffles: where did you get it?21:29
rufflesholstein, what? this command syntax? apparently from a dell forum21:31
holsteinruffles: from what source did you aquire the command that you ran that you would like to revert the chagnes?21:31
rufflesholstein, i can't remember. i believe i got it from dell forum21:33
rufflesor maybe askubuntu21:34
holsteinruffles: confirm that.. the volunteers here, nor ubuntu or canonnical are responsible for having run that command, so, i would like to see it.. and if it were me, i would ask the source how to revert21:34
IhsanHello, It's me again! :-) I have a question about screen resolutions. Is there a way to change the resolution of the terminal that comes up with CTRL+ALT+F1/2/3 etc.? And what is the name of that terminal?21:35
holstein!tty | Ihsan21:35
ubottuIhsan: To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution21:35
holsteinthough, that is not the "best" term..21:36
rufflesholstein, alright. thanks for your help. i think i'll google a little bit more21:36
rufflesholstein, i believe i got it from here http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/software-os/f/3525/t/19458199.aspx21:36
holsteinruffles: check it out, and let us know21:37
IhsanOh okay, thanks for the name. But my real problem is that the screen resolution is too small. I normally use 1920*1080 resolution but the TTY screen is something like 640x480, the fonts are way too big. How can I change that?21:37
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sasha|Yo, I have an issue with Filezilla21:37
sasha|it goes for like a minute at full speed, then it stops for another minute or two21:37
sasha|and then it slowly goes back to speed21:38
holsteinIhsan: you can use a terminal emulator in your gui.. gnome-terminal, etc21:38
holsteinIhsan: the last link in the info i gave you is 18:39 < Dorky> c#m7 bm7 f#m7 am721:38
holsteinIhsan: sorry..21:38
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution21:38
holstein^^21:38
numbertoUbuntu 13.04 does not mount cd21:38
IhsanYes, I have that, but I want to change the resolution of that, do you know how?21:39
holsteinnumberto: does for me.. whats the issue? all CD's? try other cd's and test the cd on other hardware21:39
holsteinIhsan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution here is how, friend. can you open that link?21:39
IhsanThank you!21:40
holsteinIhsan: try and read the links the volunteers share..21:40
stuxhi, anybody familiar here with installing ufw on ubuntu server?21:44
holsteinstux: sudo apt-get install ufw21:44
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stuxholstein, thanks.  I've installed ufw on ubuntu 11.10 server and added some rules, however when i ran "ufw enable" I get the error "ERROR: problem running ufw-init21:47
stux" and the firewall seems to drop all packets incoming and outgoing21:47
holstein!11.1021:48
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) was the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on May 9, 2013. See !upgrade, !lts and !eol for more details.21:48
holsteinstux: you should grab 12.04 for support21:48
stuxsearching for the error on google only reveals some potential bugs that are over a year old21:48
holsteinstux: sure.. the OS is EOL.. suppport for 11.10 is no longer, so the bugs will be over a year old, and not touched21:48
holsteinstux: sudo ufw enable should work.. could be anything with EOL versions21:49
stuxoh, this whole time i thought it was ubuntu server but it just looks like a stripped down version of ubuntu21:50
holsteinstux: ubuntuserver *is* ubuntu21:50
stuxunfortunately that was the latest version of ubuntu that came with my VPS...21:50
Dr_willisVPS's can often do very very weird things..21:50
holsteinstux: 10.04 is still supported for the server21:50
holsteinstux: you can always ask them for support, since they are responsible for giving you an outdated version.. that is really just one firewall option anyways21:51
stuxholstein, yeah, I tried iptables but had even more issues so i was hoping ufw would make the configuration simpler21:52
holsteinstux: it does.. but there are others still21:52
stuxI'll have to check with support, i'd rather not have to reinstall the OS but in the long run that may be the better option...21:52
holsteinstux: i would ask them to give you 12.04.. or get 10.04 at least21:53
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holsteinstux: that OS is EOL.. its not supported. the vulerabilities are your reponsibility to patch21:53
bfighow can I remove postgres-xc21:54
ntzrmtthihu777hallo, don't suppose anyone knows of a very simple image editor along the lines of paint.exe for windows?21:54
bfigomfg help please :(21:54
BlueEagle!patience | bfig21:54
ubottubfig: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/21:54
ntzrmtthihu777with png support, if possible :D21:54
holsteinntzrmtthihu777: http://pinta-project.com/21:55
holstein!info pinta21:55
ubottupinta (source: pinta): Simple drawing/painting program. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-2 (raring), package size 745 kB, installed size 2677 kB21:55
BlueEaglebfig: Did you try the software manager or `apt-get remove postgres-xc` ?21:55
bfigok i just found a way to remove it C_C21:55
bfigbasically borking the dpkg cleanup thing files .prerm21:55
admin-unalhi21:56
stuxholstein, yeah, I was under the misguided impression that it was a supported server version instead.  At the very least one of the first things I did iirc was a dist-upgrade, but i dunno if that would cover it all21:56
bfigwhy is postgresql a thing? Y_Y21:56
BlueEaglebfig: Very good.21:56
holsteinstux: it will not work, since the repos are down.. there are no sources for that operating system any longer, unless the VPS is providing them, in which case, it is not ubuntu anymore, and its up to them to support you21:57
stuxholstein, ah, I see... I didn't know that21:57
ntzrmtthihu777le sigh. neither linux-image-generic-lts-quantal or raring works with fglrx or bcmwl on my machine :/21:57
stuxthen i'll work on getting the dist upgraded, thanks for the advice21:57
admin-unalslm21:57
holsteinntzrmtthihu777: ?21:57
holsteinstux: or, downgrade to 10.04.. that is an LTS that is still supported21:58
holstein!10.0421:58
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu.  Desktop support ended May 9 2013. Server support continues. See http://ubottu.com/y/lucid for more details.21:58
holsteinntzrmtthihu777: did you install and try pinta ?21:59
mosesI have this directory that I want to let all users read write and execute, I want every file created in this directory to have these permissions for all personell that use this directory weather to run a program, anything.  Is this possible?22:00
CookieMonster_bekks: The screen resolution has turned back to normal after I restarted22:00
midnightninjacan anyone help me remove grub? my problem is on a uefi windows 8 laptop-I could not get ubuntu to start, and accidently removed windows mbr.  In trying to restore it, I wiped out grub partially, and am left only booting into grub rescue, no matter what i try.  Any thoughts?22:01
irecmoses: chmod 777 -R22:01
BlueEaglemoses: Which file system? And are we talking local or network users, if the latter, how is it shared?22:01
mosesthese users connect via ssh22:01
mosesand the file system they access is on the server22:02
Droopsta915hello. how can i change my group name? i cant find it online.22:02
mosesirec: that is not working actually22:02
BlackDalekHey... recently I've started getting error during boot up of laptop - something like "Error trying to read or write outside of HD0; Grub Rescue>". This happens about 8 times out of 10 when starting up. If I try continually rebooting, it eventually goes away and loads as normal.22:02
holsteinmidnightninja: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair22:02
BlueEaglemoses: And which filesystem is it? XFS? NTFS? FAT? EXT?22:02
midnightninjaholstein: can i access bootrepair from a live usb?22:02
mosesBlueEagle: how do i tell?22:03
holsteinmidnightninja: those instructions include how to use a live CD.. can you open the link i gave you?22:03
ntzrmtthihu777midnightninja: yep. it won't stay installed after a reboot, but you can install it and use it during the session22:03
CookieMonster_Guys changes to my xorg.conf aren't taking place22:03
midnightninjacan I use the boot-repair disk?22:03
BlueEaglemoses: pfff... `mount` will list all mounted filesystems.22:03
holsteinCookieMonster_: are you putting it in the proper place?22:03
stuxholstein, I think this VPS may provide some leeway in what i can install, but we'll see22:03
midnightninjaor should I go through the ubuntu software?22:03
holsteinmidnightninja: you can use a live CD, just as you asked.. and install the suggested application22:04
CookieMonster_holstein: It's in /etc/X11/22:04
midnightninjahmm..okay let me try22:04
BlueEaglemoses: ...and by the way, how did not `mount -R 777` work?22:04
mosesi didnt try that22:04
mosesactually22:04
BlueEaglemoses: sorry, that was `chmod -R 777`. How did that not work?22:05
CookieMonster_holstein: Would xorg.conf_backup make a difference? It's in the same directory22:05
holsteinCookieMonster_: that wont be read22:05
mosesBlueEagle: when we run this program the outputs are read only22:05
mosesBlueEagle: in othr words it works 1 time then doesnt work again22:05
holsteinCookieMonster_: it will need to be /ect/X11/xorg.conf .. and it will need to be "valid"22:05
mosesdoes anyone happen to know what group the ifort compiler is in?22:06
BlueEaglemoses: I see. Well, if you set the permissions on the directory, then it should inherit to new files too I think.22:06
BlueEaglemoses: so `chmod 777 .`22:06
BlueEagle(when in the correct directory)22:06
CookieMonster_It's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you're saying that the /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup won't make a difference. Here's my current xorg.conf --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5875578/22:06
mosesis that recursive for all inclusive directories?22:08
mosesBlueEagle: what did that do exactly?22:09
BlueEaglemoses: man chmod22:12
CookieMonster__I don't know exactly what I'm doing wrong. The screen resolution worked last time I restarted lightdm but now it's back to normal.22:12
CookieMonster__Can anyone help me?22:12
BlueEaglemoses: Always read the manual for commands that you are not familiar with, or you could compromize your system.22:12
BlackDalekRecently I've started getting error during boot up of laptop - something like "Error trying to read or write outside of HD0; Grub Rescue>". This happens about 8 times out of 10 when starting up.22:12
CookieMonster__I had help from bekks before22:12
BlueEaglemoses: That being said, giving everyone access to execute anything anywhere on the server is not neccessarily a good thing.22:12
holsteinBlackDalek: i would test the hardware22:13
Romeokay, need help and clarification please.  ~$ crontab -e22:13
Romecrontabs/testn3t/: fdopen: Permission denied22:13
irecmoses: sorry, that will recursively change all permissions to rwx for the indicated directory/files and sub-files/directories.22:14
ntzrmtthihu777holstein: just checked it out, seems just about what I need, thank you.22:14
holsteinntzrmtthihu777: cheers22:14
irecyou need to specify the directory at the end22:14
Rome How do i fix this permanently.. and im guessthis is why my services are starting and under root priveledges22:14
mosesBlueEagle: there are only 2 of us22:14
mosesand one is my boss22:14
Romeanyone?22:15
CookieMonster__bekks: You here?22:15
BlueEaglemoses: Then you should place both of you in a group and give the group those permissions. If a service is compromized by a security hole that allows it to log in then it will not have those permissions, and that can be the difference between loss of all data and just public data.22:15
BlueEagle!sudo | Rome22:16
ubottuRome: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo22:16
BlueEagleRome: You will need super cow powers to edit the global crontab22:16
mosesBlueEagle: ok so i will attempt to do that now22:16
Dr_willisRome,  services normally run as root. or spawn/switch to their own specific user22:16
mosesgroups shows the groups right? can i see what the groups are fro?22:17
RomeBlueEagle : I understand that, but if i have to use sudo, then that means cron is owned by ROOT. Which in turns means when it starts a process, its gonna start it as root!!!(I dont want that) because then my .db ends up being owned by ROOT!22:17
Dr_willisRome,  thats not totally correct.. the crontab file is a system file and thus oned by root..22:17
Dr_willisRome,  a specific service can change to a different user, or you can spawn it as a dioffernt user via 'su' i belive22:18
CookieMonster__OK, I'm off for now. I'll need to see if I can fix this issue tomorrow22:18
CookieMonster__:(22:18
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BlueEagleRome: Did you try `sudo crontab -u username -e`?22:18
mosescan i view what the groups do in ubuntu?22:19
RomeNo i didnt .22:19
mosescan i view the group members?22:19
Rome as i dont know whats that means22:19
BlueEagleRome: man crontab22:19
BlueEagleRome: It's in the manual. ;)22:19
Rome ok22:19
Rome lemme check it out22:19
Nuclearnadaldoes  the  fork and exec are used to create user defined processes too? Like if i am opening a music player  then how its  process will be created?22:19
Rome be back if i get stuck again22:19
SunStarhaving an issue with my card reader.   when ever i want to use it, i have to first reboot into windows, insert the card and let windows install the drivers. the SD card wont work in linux until windows installs the USB mass storage device driver. (every time on any card.)22:21
SunStarany ideas?22:21
Dr_willisSunStar,  determine the exact chipset of the reader, and how its connected, and check the forums and askubuntu.com for others with the same isue/bug reports.22:21
Dr_willisSunStar,  ive seen quirky things with some built in readers.22:22
Romedam!22:22
Dr_willisHad some netbook issues with the sd card readers ages ago. not tried them lately22:22
th0rDr_willis, funny you should mention that. I have an sd reader in my netbook...it worked fine until I needed it about two weeks ago. Might have something to do with the move from Ubuntu to Debian about that time.22:23
Dr_willishad some quirky kernel issues with my old netbook. Not really noticed it with my newernetbook. I dont use it much any more. :) Tablet does what i need.22:25
admin-unalhi22:26
Urchin[emacs]why does dosbox window in ubuntu insist on running in a 16:10 aspect ratio?22:26
th0rDitto22:26
Urchin[emacs]it deforms everything22:28
mosesok i made a group and put all users who will be using the directory in that grou22:28
mosesp22:28
ProfElmHey guys, I'm trying to uninstall a dual boot Xubuntu but I can't seem to. I removed everything per http://askubuntu.com/a/15284122:28
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mosesnow how do i give that group full r/w/x access  to that directory and all directories inside of it?22:28
ProfElmI get a Error no such partition > grub22:28
ProfElmHowever, if I press f12 before boot and select Windows from the menu, it boots up just fine.22:29
ProfElmAdvice?22:29
Dr_willisyou want just a windows system?22:29
ProfElmYeah.22:29
Dr_willishave windows reinstall its bootlooader on the hd you are booting, would be my guess.22:30
Dr_willisthat will remove grub22:30
moseshow do you use chmod on a group?22:30
RomeOkay.. How come it made more sense when yall say it than when i read it.. I read this before,  guess it didnt make sense to me ..22:31
irecmoses: the second 7 in 777 is for group...so make sure the second digit is 7, the first and last should stay the same.22:31
Rome Now after yall told me , it made more sense22:31
mosesirec: I mean how to a point to a specific group to give access to?22:32
mosesI want to remove full access to the directory and give full access to a group22:32
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moseshmm how do you set a group to a directory22:33
Dr_willis!permissions22:34
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions22:34
irecchgrp group_name file/directory22:35
RomeThank you BlueEagle22:35
irecthat will change group ownership, then set the permissions on group octet22:35
moseschgrp -R fortran home/research/22:39
moseswhy isnt that working22:39
Dr_willisuse the full path perhaps?22:39
Dr_willisso it dosent depened on your current directory22:39
Learninggis there any hacking chanel ?22:40
mosesyeah i used it22:40
Learninggcould you tell me the name of the chanel22:40
OerHeks!alis22:40
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*22:40
Learningg!alis hacking22:41
Dr_willis'hacking' is a rather broad term.22:41
Learningg!alis hack22:41
rwolshax?22:41
Learningg!alis hax22:41
Learninggnothing22:41
Dr_willis! stuff is BOT triggers..   msg the alis service bot.22:41
Dr_willisreread what ubottu  said.22:41
Dr_willis "/msg alis help list"22:41
LearninggSorry, I don't know anything about alis hax hacking or hack22:42
OerHeks /msg alis list hacking trees22:42
moseswhere do you put in -r in chmod?22:42
rwolsLearningg: are you serious?22:42
Learningg!alis list hacking trees22:42
ubottuLearningg: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:42
rwolsmoses: after chmod22:42
Learningglol22:42
Dr_willisLearningg,  and if you notice what the bot said,., its /msg  not !alis22:42
Learninggcheck out my blog22:42
TheLordOfTimeLearningg:  no.22:42
Learningghttp://internet-exploiter.blogspot.pt/22:42
TheLordOfTimestop advertising randomly22:42
Learninggok22:43
Dr_willisI dont think i will find much of use on a random blog.22:43
rwolswhat is it that you want to learn about hacking?22:43
Learninggsorry22:43
Learninggi want to know people about that like hacking as much as myself22:43
TheLordOfTimewell you're in the wrong channel22:43
mosesI tried to do chmod -R uog-rwx /dir/ then chmod -R g+rwx and I am in the group but I cant access the files...what did i do wrong?22:43
Learninggno shit genious22:43
Learninggthats why i asked22:44
jribmoses: are you also the owner?22:44
mosesjrib: how do i view the owner?22:45
mosesoh that is a problem22:45
jribmoses: paste output of ls -ld for the file in question22:45
rwolsmoses: ls -l /dir/22:45
moseshow do i change the owner?22:45
rwolschown22:45
nnyk__moses: chown user:group filename22:46
jribmoses: I suggest pastebinning some actual ls -ld output.  You seem to be doing something strange or in a strange way at least22:46
mosescan you change the owner to a group?22:46
Dr_willisevery file has a owner:group22:47
Dr_willisevery user normally has a group thats the same as their username also.22:47
mosesyes22:47
mosesbut I made a group and put 3 users in it22:47
mosesbut I wanted to make that the owner and the group22:48
dzhonnihi22:48
mosesI need to give these 3 people full access to the file system in question via the group22:48
dzhonnican i allow a user to use tcpsump and hcidump on network devices? how?22:48
dzhonni(a norma user: no su, no sudo)22:49
Dr_willisYou can use the suid bit on a binary file dzhonni  but that could be a security risk22:49
dzhonnii tried via group adding the user to grups bluetooth and netdev but it does nt work22:50
rwolsmoses: you can change the owner to whatever, the group to the group name that the three people are in, and then change the group permission to read+write22:50
mosesthe command is like this chown -R owner:group groupname22:51
mosesright?22:51
jribmoses: what directory are you running that on?22:51
moses/home/research/22:51
rwolsno, it should be chown -R owner:group /path/to/directory22:51
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mosesdo i actually put the name of the group in for owner:group?22:52
rwolsyes22:53
mosesit says invalid user when i try the group as the owner :/22:53
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TheLordOfTimemoses:  owner has to be a user, group is a group22:53
nnyk__Hey mrgate.22:53
TheLordOfTimethere isn't always a user with the same name as the group22:53
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rwolsowner needs to be a user, if there's a user called "scientist" in group "researchers", you'd write chown -R scientist:researchers /home/research22:54
rwolsthen you can change the permissions with chmod -R 664 /home/research22:54
rwolsthis will give read+write access to the group and only read access to everybody else22:55
mosesdo i need to log in and then log out for changes to occur?22:55
rwolsno, you can immediately check your changes with ls -l /home/research22:56
mosesyeah and it says permission denied22:56
rwolsin that case you probably need to be root22:56
mosessudo chmod -R g+rwx /home/research/22:56
mosesthat is what i used22:56
mosesim not the owenr but i am in the group22:56
mosesit gives that error when i type ls -l22:57
nnyk__moses: i think that paste might come in handy...22:57
rwolsyes, put up a sample output at pastebin.com22:57
jribmoses: pastebin actual ls -ld output and actual commands you run that give you "permission denied"22:58
jribthis way we don't have to play the guessing game22:58
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moseshttp://pastebin.com/nLbZJGKE23:00
midnightninjaanyone have an idea on how to fix boot repair looping on unmount partitions please close all programs?23:01
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PRISMAdminGuys, do you think that the ARM version would run as well on the Nexus 10 as it does on the nexus 7? if not is there perhaps an ARM build of SOME distro that does? ...even the poopy Rikomagic Android sticks are supported...23:03
usr13moses: What are you trying to do? (I just got here.)23:03
marcoceppiPRISMAdmin: Are you referring to Ubuntu Touch?23:04
marcoceppiPRISMAdmin: If so, then yes it runs well, if not then I imagine the 13.10 release of Ubuntu will be pretty smooth on Nexus 10 given they share virtually the same code base23:05
mastershakehey guys how come everytime when i issue the make command to build the source i get this message- make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.23:05
PRISMAdminmarcoceppi: No. The "usual" Unity/XFCE/KDE desktop. There are a bunch of videos on youtube showing the Nexus 7 with the (more or less) official ARM build23:05
usr13mastershake: did you do ./configure  first?23:05
mosesusr13: I am trying to give users in group fortran rwx access to /home/research/ and everything inside of it23:05
marcoceppiPRISMAdmin: I dont' know off hand, but I imagine it would run the same as the Nexus 7 if not better23:06
mastershakeusr13: "no such file or directory"23:06
usr13moses: They will have as long as they are in the group it belongs to.23:06
mosesbut i tried it23:06
mosessee the paste23:06
mosesits not working23:07
PRISMAdminmarcoceppi: that's what I would expect, but I am not finding a single resource that could confirm that... Maybe there is something but it's all drowning under the whole Ubuntu touch stuff23:07
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usr13moses: (And don't use 777, no need for that. 644 for files and 755 for directories is default and what you should probably go back to.)23:08
mastershakeis there another way to compile this source since i cant run ./configure?23:08
k1lPRISMAdmin: better ask in #ubuntu-arm for the desktop support23:08
treehau55what is the easiest, least path of resistant way to move my ubuntu partition from my spin-drive to my ssd, given that I have a WD passport for temp storage. Is it a dd-rysnc type method or Clonezilla method, recommendations?23:08
PRISMAdmink1l: Oh wow, thanks, didn't know about that channel.23:08
PRISMAdminclear23:09
usr13mastershake: "no such file or directory" is the result of ____________ ?23:09
rwolsmoses: I think you get a permission denied for the . directory because it needs to be executable for ls23:09
mosesi included executable though rwols23:09
rwolsah yes i see23:10
rwolswelp, I'm out of ideas23:10
usr13moses: Are all the users you want to have access to this directory in the group "fortran"?23:10
mosesyep23:10
grendal-primegrrrrrrr fkn remina23:10
grendal-primeops soory23:10
mastershakeusr13: ./configure doesn't exist in the directory23:10
mosesusr13: take a look at the groups madara23:10
grendal-primewrong windo23:10
usr13mastershake: What are you trying to do?  (What are you compiling, or what is it you are doing?)23:11
mosesusr13: when i type that in it clearly shows in im the group, yet when i change the access it wont allow that group in23:11
mastershakeusr13: im trying to complile OpenVAS23:11
afmevening all…. I've been attempting a OEM install of 13.04.. i run the oem-config-prepare, reboot, find the term with the selection settings, but the X11 window for language select (first screen) responds to nothing on the keyboard23:12
maheanuuMy grandson used my browser (firefox) last night, and this morning I found that I have flipora installed everywhere and cannot find any place that this can be deleted or removed...  I could use some help23:12
grendal-primeanyone ever had remina go full screen with no indicator on how to get it back?23:12
mastershakeusr13: i downloaded the source code from the webiste and ran tar xvfz file.tar.gz to extract it and now im stuck23:13
holsteinmaheanuu: make him a user account.. you can always blow out your mozilla config23:13
maheanuuI am trying to get there, and I would rather cut off his hands.....23:14
rwolsmoses: what happens when you do chmod -R u+rwx /home/research/ ?23:14
maheanuuholstein, I am trying to figure out what I need to do, apparently it has infected everything...   But I am not seeing it or how to clean it up23:15
maheanuuI hate it when family uses my stuff, they don't care if they break it and they don't say anything until they are nailed down as the guilty party23:16
usr13mastershake:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware23:16
mosesrwols: it works :/23:16
rwolshooray :)23:16
mosesso user overrides groups?23:16
rwolsyes user goes before group23:16
moseswhy dont i just make the user the root then?23:17
mosesthe root never logs in23:17
usr13mastershake: http://samiux.blogspot.com/2013/05/howto-openvas-on-ubuntu-desktop-1204-lts.html23:17
maheanuuI am planning on going TOR I think I will like it a lot better all around23:17
rwolswell if you have a folder called research in /home/research, changes are that there is a user called research ?23:17
holsteinmaheanuu: have you removed the config?23:17
mosesrwols: can i list uders?23:17
mosesusers*23:18
holsteinmaheanuu: TOR is slow23:18
zryanhi all23:18
maheanuuholstein, No, and what is better then?23:18
zryanhow to re enable hibernate in lubuntu 13.04?23:18
holsteinmaheanuu: "better" is a matter of opinion23:18
holsteinmaheanuu: you can have your son install toolbars and redirect your homepage over TOR23:18
rwolsmoses: do this: cat /etc/passwd23:18
usr13mastershake: (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first.)23:18
maheanuuholstein, I am running 12.04.2 LTS23:18
holsteinmaheanuu: you have an issue where you allowed someone access to your user account.. not an issue of security23:19
holsteinmaheanuu: what would i do? remove the mozilla config, and test.. then make my son his own user account.. or let him use the guest account23:19
holsteinmaheanuu: this will apply to basically any operating system23:19
maheanuuYes, but you were the one that stated slow.....   and to me especially here in French Polynesia, I need all the speed that I can manage to eke out23:19
mastershake!packages23:20
ubottuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !KPackageKit, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 30000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!23:20
mastershakelol23:20
mosesrwols: what is user?23:20
platzhirsch1Does Ubuntu have a predefined limit on opened file descriptors?23:20
platzhirsch1There is non configured in /etc/security/limits.conf23:20
jribmoses: yes, if you have user permissions that restrict access, those take precedence over group permissions for a user who is in the group.23:20
mosesrwols: how do i just give the group permissions and no one else, is it that hard?23:20
maheanuuHe is my grandson, and he was over here playing around and not sure what he did, because I haven't talked to him only to his dad who is still in the stone age23:20
mosesso in reality I cant limit access to a group only...23:21
jribmoses: just give the user the same permissions.  Or change the user like you said.23:21
rwolsyes you can, you simply create a new user with the same name as the group23:21
holsteinmaheanuu: again, the guest account i mentioned is what you let users like that use23:21
mosesrwols: that makes sense23:21
holsteinmaheanuu: none of the settings persist from the guest account in ubuntu23:22
mosesrwols: do i add that user to the group?23:22
maheanuuholstein, I know the security things, it's something else, apparently you have never been to a polynesian society....   What's yours is mine, Whats mine is broke23:22
hans_henrikdoes wine work with GUI programs and 12.04 for any1 else?23:22
holsteinmaheanuu: i am not speaking about society, friend23:23
hans_henrikwith gnome/unity23:23
holsteinmaheanuu: if *anyone* wants to use your machine, the guest account is a convinience for you.. the settings dont persist23:23
rwolsmoses: yes, so the strategy is: 1) create user called research 2) add user research to group research 3) chown -R research:research /home/research23:23
deezedhans_henrik: I never could set wine in 12.04 to run itunes for example23:23
maheanuuAnd I am no young kid, I am a 75 yr old retired navy chief and sperry univac field engineer I do know about security, but in family I don't expect them to use my stuff, I Do NOT use theirs23:23
holsteinmaheanuu: if you have issues with firefox in your browser, please remove the config from /home23:23
rwolsmoses: you can check if there's already a user with the same with: cat /etc/passwd | grep research23:23
holsteinmaheanuu: again, this has nothing to do with your age, friend23:23
holsteinmaheanuu: password protect your user account, and dont let anyone in.. let them use the guest account23:24
mosesnothing23:24
maheanuuI don't want anyone on my puter, but that doesn't stop them I realize that, but I guess that padlocks are my only answer23:24
rwolsso you'll need to create one23:24
holsteinmaheanuu: otherwise, to "fix" what has happened to your browser, try removing the mozilla config from your /home directory23:24
maheanuuI don't WANT ANYONE ON MY Machine!!!~!!23:25
holsteinmaheanuu: no.. a password is the answer.. and let them use the guest account23:25
holsteinmaheanuu: you are here because someone used your machine.. i am explaining to you how to prevent that in the future *and* fix firefox23:25
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holsteinmaheanuu: no caps please.. i am a volnuteer23:25
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deezedmaheanuu: did you ever tried "taylor" linux??23:26
moseshow to create user in ubuntu?23:26
usr13adduser23:26
mosesit wont let me, says group fortran alreadt exists23:26
deezedmoses: you can use adduser, but its easier to use your gui software and its safer23:26
mosesdeezed: im not at the computer though :/23:27
Dr_willissudo adduser newusername23:27
deezedmoses: are you doing a chroot?23:27
mosesno23:27
mosesi did this: < Dr_willis> sudo adduser newusername23:28
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mosesand got : adduser: The group `fortran' already exists.23:28
Dr_willismoses,   and what username did you use?23:28
mosesfortran23:28
Dr_willisand you made a specific fortran Group  earlier?23:28
mosesyes23:28
Dr_willisYou are doing things the hardway then.23:29
Dr_williseach user also has a group that has their own name23:29
mosesok23:29
Dr_willissudo adduser bubba   makes a bubba user and A bubba group23:29
mosesDr_willis: im trying to give full rwx permissions to a group of 3 users thouhg23:29
Dr_willisbubba user is the only member of that group by defualt23:29
mosesthose users are all in fortran23:30
mosesalready23:30
elisa87 hey do you know how I can realize what's going wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5875749/23:30
Dr_willisso you make a group called 'all-three' and add them to that group and make the directory owned by that group i belive..23:30
mosesyou cannot make the owner the group23:30
moseswe tried that already23:30
afmi done an OEM 12.04 server install as well… boot the new drive on the new system… same thing… i can switch between terms but not answer the X11 gui questions as nothing but ctrl+alt+fX works….23:30
Dr_willismoses,  owner of the group? that phrase makes no sence.23:31
platzhirsch1ulimit -n 9000 -> cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted. sudo ulimit -n 9000 -> ulimit: command not found23:31
mosesowner:group23:31
Dr_willispeople belong to a group. they can be in more then 1 group.23:31
pozhello, i have a problem, i am trying to connect to a WEP secure (128 bit) wireless network with a hex key, but it is not working... I am using ubuntu 12.04 lts23:31
pozdoes anyone know how to get that to work?23:31
mosesyes, but how do i give everyone in the group rwx to the directory?23:31
Dr_willishttp://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialManagingGroups.html23:31
Dr_willischomd  g +rwx dirctoryname   i think.. been years since i last messed with it.23:32
afmpoz: wireless chipset would help… i have an atheros that SUCKS on anything but 8.10 which is lame ass old23:32
douglasyuo23:32
pozatheros ar922x23:32
mosesDr_willis: it didnt work :/23:32
pozi think thats what it is23:32
douglashum23:33
Dr_willismoses,  given the stuff you have been trying.. i have no idea what you have done earlier..23:33
afmlspci should give the full info...23:33
Dr_willismoses,  try with a new directory using this anzwer as an example --> http://superuser.com/questions/19318/how-can-i-give-write-access-of-a-folder-to-all-users-in-linux23:33
afmneed to either recompile kernel or install backport for it23:33
douglasyuo fala portugues23:33
usr13moses: You can just leave the file and permissions default, but add the users to the group that you assign the directory to.23:34
pozlspci does not tell me very much23:34
MonkeytoeI created an upstart script which successfully starts my program on boot. It is being started with this line. exec /home/test/monitor start   when I ps -aux it is showing it running as root... how can I run it as test?23:34
Monkeytoetests home directory is /home/test23:35
rwolsmoses: I think the best thing to do is just copy your important files to somewhere safe, destroy the folder /home/fortran, and then do adduser fortran23:35
Dr_willisMonkeytoe,  you could use 'su username  -c commandname'  or somthing similer.23:35
Monkeytoeso exec su test -c /home/test/monitor start ?23:36
dn5hi people23:36
Dr_willisMonkeytoe,  there may be better ways to start it as a user, but i dont do much upstart work.23:36
Dr_willisand you may need -c 'command stuff'     with the quotes23:37
dn5I know it's not the channel I have to ask this questio but well.. Is there any way to grab all filenames from remote host if they are availible as list23:37
rwolsmoses: then finally, to make things sure, do chown -R fortran:fortran /home/fortran && chmod -R g+rwx /home/fortran23:37
usr13moses: Change Permissions to files only:  "find . -type f -print | xargs chmod 644"23:37
usr13moses: Change Permissions to directories only: "find . -type d -print | xrags chmod 755"23:37
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douglasyou speak Portuguese23:38
pozanyone?23:38
k1l!pt | douglas23:38
ubottudouglas: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.23:38
dn5usr13 you may help me with the question23:38
Dr_willisdn5,  avaiable how?23:38
dn5as a list, I can give you an example23:39
dn5one second23:39
dn5http://bhmobile.ba/web/banner/23:39
dn5but in case there are sub-dirs it will gather the sub directories and its filenames also23:39
usr13dn5: ?23:39
douglashum23:39
dn5 Is there any way to grab all filenames from remote host if they23:40
dn5             are availible as list23:40
Monkeytoenice it worked Dr_willis... thank you :)23:40
dn5usr1323:40
usr13dn5: What is http://bhmobile.ba/web/banner/ ?23:40
rbanffyHi folks. I think I have raised my max open files limit to 60K, but my program is giving me "too many open files" like I didn't. Should I restart the machine after changing /etc/sysctl.conf and doing sysctl -p and a change to /etc/security.conf23:40
dn5read what I wrote above usr1323:40
mosesusr13: what dir?23:40
mosesrwols: i will do that when i am at the computer next, thank you23:40
usr13dn5: "Is there any way to grab all filenames from remote host if they are availible as list?"23:41
usr13dn5: ssh user@host ls -R   ???23:41
dn5usr13: right, as an automatic scan so I don't have to c/p it and go through all directories and sub dirs alone23:41
Dr_willissounds like a job for wget, or httrack23:42
usr13dn5: All files and all directories in the /home/username directory?23:42
Dr_willisrbanffy,  a reboot after alterhign that file is needed i belive.23:42
dn5as far as I know Dr_willis , httrack will copy website design and HTML code and not filenames, usr13: I'm not in position of server23:43
dn5I don't have any contact with it.23:43
Dr_willishttrack has  more options then i can rember.   it can do one level deep i belive, thus just grab the files on that url23:43
usr13dn5: Oh, are you wanting to get files from a webserver (particular website)?23:43
dn5usr13: yes but they are visible as in the link I gave you23:44
dn5usr13: they are in list-like23:44
dn5usr13: not files but filenames23:45
usr13dn5: The link you gave me returned:  "The requested URL /web/banner/ was not found on this server"23:45
otakme too ^^23:45
will3032840I got a seagate goflex that runs Arago project and was wondering if anyone had some prebuilt DPKG binaries. (Arago is like linux but should be able to support dpkg)23:45
dn5one second23:45
dn5may I query you usr13?23:46
will3032840so I need help finding out how to get DPKG on this thing and install.. Yes.. Debian.23:46
usr13Yes23:46
dn5I would like for a link to stay private23:46
HateGrubwell, hello all.23:48
will3032840hi23:48
histowill3032840: What type of processor etc... and do you have any form of input devices etc...?23:48
histodn5: Do you want to actual download the files?23:49
will3032840histo: look here: http://pastebin.com/Mp0r84d823:50
HateGrubapparently, I'm unable to install grub on sdc3. I have 3 hds on my machine. Willing to install linux on the third sdc. Grub refused. MOBO is EFI. I ended having to disable sda and sdb (ssds) to install it. It was running ok, but when I reenable the other two... cant boot. BTW, I'm using the BIOS to select which drive to boot. I`m fine with that...23:50
moseschown: invalid user: `uog+rwx'23:50
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moseswhat does that mean23:50
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Dr_willisHateGrub,  grub would go on the mbr of 'sdc' normally - if you want to boot sdc. not 'sdc3'23:51
histowill3032840: So how exactly does that answer any of the questions I asked?23:51
Dr_willismoses,  you did a typo would be my guess.23:51
will3032840histo: sorry... wrong file XD23:51
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histoHateGrub: you install grub to the mbr of the primary boot device23:51
Dr_willisuog+rwx would be the same as '777' wouldent it?23:51
will3032840histo: so what would you like me to type in? sorry I'm not expirenced with this shell.23:51
will3032840histo: give me a list of commands and I'll post them back23:52
histowill3032840: uname -a23:52
histowill3032840: cat /etc/issue23:52
HateGrubDr_willis: and histo: primary boot device is subjective when you select which disk to boot from bios.23:52
k1lwill3032840: how does that relate to ubuntu support?23:52
will3032840k1l: Trying to port debian then ubuntu to this device.23:53
histoHateGrub: True but what is the reason for doing that when you are just using efi?23:53
histoHateGrub: you probably have a /boot on sda23:53
Dr_willisHateGrub,  but grub  bootloader goes on the MBR of the hard drive. 'sdc' not 'sdc3'  unless you are doing some chainloading of the bootloaders.23:53
Dako300I have an old Dell Workstation that I ordered upgrades for. I managed to get the system to boot with 2 GPUs (the BIOS doesn't support the card natively) and I get a text prompt as normal (I run ubuntu server) but whenever I try and run startx of start lightdm, it crashes and has a sementation fault. The card I am using is an Radeon X160023:53
HateGrubhisto: triple boot. OSX, Win8 and Linux23:53
will3032840k1l: (Ubuntu maybe?)23:53
histo!uefi | HateGrub23:53
ubottuHateGrub: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI23:53
HateGrubDr_willis: sorry. sdc I mean23:53
HateGrubosx, which runs on an ssd, has chameleon on it. Win8, which runs on the other ssd, runs his own strange structure to boot23:54
mosesrwolcott: you there?23:54
k1lwill3032840: if you want to port debian to a device i would suggest you talk to the debian support23:54
will3032840histo: http://pastebin.com/kyZAcq4N23:54
HateGrububottu: reading right now23:54
ubottuHateGrub: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:54
will3032840k1l: well I might make this a private conversation so that you don't push it somewhere else23:55
HateGrubthe link that ubottu gave, starts promising: Installing Ubuntu Quickly and Easily via Trial and Error23:55
HateGrubtrial and error23:55
HateGrubhmmm23:55
histowill3032840: so what is it you want to do with this device?23:55
will3032840histo: Put dpkg on it or apt-get23:56
HateGrubhisto: how can I check grub configuration nowadays? I'm outdated23:56
Dr_willis!grub223:56
moseswhat is the chmod # to just give group full access?23:56
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub223:56
HateGrubvim /boot/grub/grub.conf?23:56
histowill3032840: That is way offtopic for here. Perhaps try in ##linux or other channels. it would also be rather difficult holding your hand during the process over IRC.23:56
Dr_willisGrant read access to a directory to all members your group:23:57
Dr_willischmod g+rx directory-name23:57
will3032840histo: okay. Have a nice day..23:57
Dako300I have an old Dell Workstation that I ordered upgrades for. I managed to get the system to boot with 2 GPUs (the BIOS doesn't support the card natively) and I get a text prompt as normal (I run ubuntu server) but whenever I try and run startx of start lightdm, it crashes and has a sementation fault. The card I am using is an Radeon X160023:58
mosesJESUS IT WAS WORKING THE WHOLE TIME I JUST HAD TO LOG OUT FIRST23:59

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