[00:00] <bazhang> !repeat | dnf0sq
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, Yeah, I have a degree in black studies it has a depth of meaning for me.
[00:02] <styles_> I installed Windows 8 AFTER Ubuntu. I have a boot partition. After the windows 8 install disc wanted to restart, it goes straight to grub and never completes the installation. What's exactly going on here?
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Probably just install the W8 bootloader in the mbr, Windows should be in the first partitions and at the least the boot partition in a primary.
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> styles_, UPdate-grub might pick up the W8 and just boot to it to finish.
[00:04] <styles_> wilee-nilee, I tried. I went to recovery and rebuilt the mbr ect.. 1 sec I'll get more info
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> update-grub*
[00:04] <malv> Are there any riot tracking apps for Ubuntu?
[00:04] <styles_> wilee-nilee, it does find it, but it doesn't add it
[00:04] <Guest20028> nautilus extensions does not work.how should i fix this?
[00:04] <malv> I need to know where the black people are going to be tonight
[00:04] <arif41_> is there any app like bitvise ?
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Are you in ubuntu right now, can I see a screenshot of gparted, which may need installing?
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> in a imagebin
[00:05] <styles_> wilee-nilee, yeah 1 sec
[00:06] <styles_> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872640/
[00:07] <styles_> I should mention I've tried boot-repair via live cd, it does pickup the windows installation but it never adds it to grub. Nor does update-grub (but they do detect it). I'm assuming it's because windows isn't finished installing
[00:08] <styles_> http://i.imgur.com/uSrhcoi.png
[00:09] <mdel> any idea why my bluetooth headset would not work in ubuntu, even with it connected and the device seleced in the sound settings
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Ah the wonderful UEFI, lol, I'm not really up on it, but we have some links, and once in a great while there is solid help here on it, but most often the ubuntu forum is the best place with an author of this thread m-f US daytime.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | styles_ Here is the bots.
[00:10] <styles_> God I freaking hate UEFI
[00:10] <James_Epp> I'm looking for a distro based off Ubuntu that has really good out-of-box video driver support. (I'm running three monitors, and it isn't too co-operative :S)
[00:10] <styles_> I've read a lot about it. I do have it disabled in my mobo, ect.. the /boot partition DOES have the windows bootloader AND grub in it (looking now) BUT grub is activated
[00:11] <bekks> James_Epp: Why not using ubuntu and installing and configuring the graphics driver?
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> styles_, I'm avoiding it, I can fix most boot things, however the uefi is different per manufacturers release, I want to live a long happy life. ;)
[00:11] <James_Epp> bekks: I'm not crazy about stock Ubuntu :S
[00:11] <styles_> I was under the assumption grub would have been overwritten by windows
[00:11] <styles_> wilee-nilee, I'm crying inside since I've bought this new mobo it's been nothing but UEFI troubles
[00:11] <styles_> I will hands down never buy one with UEFI again
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Looks like a uefi install on a msdos setup am I correct?
[00:12] <James_Epp> styles_ that may be difficult in a few years :(
[00:12] <styles_> James_Epp, I know :(
[00:12] <Guest20028> nautilus extensions does not work i am using nautilus version 3.4.2
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> wilee-nilee, I have W8 dualbooted in standard msdos
[00:12] <styles_> wilee-nilee, yeah
[00:13] <styles_> I wonder if I force EFI to be on if grub will gtfo and windows will do it's thing o.O
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> styles_, No boot partition here as well, I made a ntfs, with a boot flag, and just did the manual install from W8
[00:14] <styles_> See I did that, I think W8 though the NTFS partition was my whole disk or something. (Not knowning wtf grub and /boot was). I did switch the flags to the NTFS but the boot parition is still taking over
[00:14] <styles_> Just curious, on a boot parition what specifies the inital startup for the disk
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Actually I'm mistaken mine does have a boot partition, sorry, I let it build itself from custom, but on a regular msdos formatted HD with 3 other linux on already.
[00:16] <occ> ok i found a potential fix, adding "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1 blink=1 btcoex_enable=1 enable_diversity=1" to the file: /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf , which i done..... now i am supposed to run the command "rmmod ath9k modprobe -b ath9k" except this says error "-b" not a valid parameter.... any ideas what it should be?
[00:16] <occ> this is to fix the wifi that keeps disconnecting
[00:17] <styles_> wilee-nilee, ah, well let me try this (update-grub might have worked god knows) thanks again wilee-nilee for your help let's cross out fingers :P
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[00:17] <occ> also i cant try the other fix because the webpage http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable#compat-wireless_3.6_stable_releases -all the download links are empty? -they all say file not found
[00:17] <dattry> nautilus extensions does not work i am using nautilus version 3.4.2
[00:18] <th0r> Occ: try jus modprobe athp9k, that should reload the module
[00:18] <occ> th0r with the rmmod first?
[00:18] <mouseguy> is there any way i can force ubuntu 13.04 to use kernel 3.2?
[00:19] <th0r> Occ: that is two separate commands...first rmmod, then modprobe
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> mouseguy, I would think it is a install it and choose it at grub, however why?
[00:19] <mouseguy> my mouse problem (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=156923)
[00:20] <mouseguy> only appears in kernel 3.3+
[00:20] <mouseguy> do i lose any functionality or security by using an older kernel?
[00:21] <dattry> message me one
[00:22] <occ> hmmm.... "rmmod ath9k" worked, but then "modprobe ath9k" returns: FATAL error inserting ath9k (/lib/modules/3.2.0-37-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k,ko):unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter(see dmesg)
[00:23] <mouseguy> is there a detailed guide on how to install a different kernel to be able to choose in grub?
[00:23] <th0r> Occ: one of the parameters in the new modprobe.d file is probably wrong
[00:24] <occ> yeh, the step before this in the fix was to add : options ath9k nohwcrypt=1 blink=1 btcoex_enable=1 enable_diversity=1, to a file............ i have just removed this line now and modprobe works
[00:24] <occ> i guess this alleged fix dosnt work for me
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> mouseguy, Are you registered with freenode, if you are you might try ##linux as well.
[00:25] <Dr_willis> mouseguy,  see what other kernels are in the repos for yoru release. or see the !kernel factoid
[00:25] <th0r> occ: you might take out those parameters one at a time to see which is bad...but tht is no guarantee the others will help
[00:25] <Dr_willis> !kernel | mouseguy
[00:25] <occ> it has reconneced now.... now it will disconnect and all my computers will disconnect...
[00:25] <occ> ok thor ill try
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, Your back I was wondering what was going on. ;)
[00:26] <Dr_willis> mouseguy,  its very possible a newer kernel may fix any known bug/regressions
[00:26] <Rallias> With cron, if a job takes more than a minnute will it affect other jobs in ways besides CPU availability?
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> the world just seemed different
[00:26] <mouseguy> Dr_willis, wilee-nilee, thank you guys, ill try your suggestions
[00:26] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  vacation.  :)  4000+ Miles of driveing an rv..  and text/irc while driveing is a big No no. (this is a Public service anouncement)
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> heh, hope it was fun.
[00:29] <aaron_> guys write me something to see if the notification  plugin works
[00:29] <th0r> aaron_: no
[00:30] <aaron_> th0r, one time again pls
[00:31] <th0r> aaron_: the first one didn't work?
[00:31] <aaron_> th0r, i should i have minimized i think
[00:31] <pc-2> Hi, I selected the encrypt my driver and home folder on the ubuntu install, does anyone know what kind of encryption it uses?
[00:33] <netrunner_> hello guys , i use pidgin to connect with my hotmail account , i can't receive pictures from hotmail account ? on of them send to me many times but here in pidgin i can't see anything
[00:34] <sb3997> /nick garry
[00:34] <kellydivine> any idea guys
[00:34] <occ> oh my god. i think i fixed it!
[00:34] <occ> *puts rope back in drawer*
[00:35] <occ> just adding "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" to the file  /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf, has made my wifi stable
[00:36] <David-A> Rallias: I don't think so. Processes run in parallell. (But if a process (started by cron or otherwise) explicitly locks a resource used by another process, it will of course affect it.)
[00:36] <Rallias> mmk.
[00:37] <Rallias> So my apt-mirror daily cronjob won't affect my other daily jobs?
[00:46] <badk1tty> meow.. i mean hello
[00:49] <badk1tty> anyone alive in here!?
[00:49] <nimdAHK> hi
[00:49] <badk1tty> hey
[00:50] <badk1tty> so whats up
[00:50] <nimdAHK> just making some strings at foragoodstrftime.com
[00:51] <badk1tty> thinkn you could answer a minor ? fur me?
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> cept for the 12 webbed toes not much
[00:51] <badk1tty> lol
[00:51] <badk1tty> cute response
[00:54] <sam_> join #knightsoftheeasterncalculus vividred10outof10
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> badk1tty, Give us the lowdown on the problem. ;)
[00:55] <badk1tty> well i jsut installed 13.04 and i clicked by the encrypt home dir so i searched for a resolution and found a manual command in the terminal only when i ran the command the site says don't do this if your logged in to your current account ----
[00:56] <badk1tty> i was also looking for a history of commands lemme check my linux bible
[00:57] <badk1tty> i was basically just trying to encrypt the home directory after  i missed it on the install
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> badk1tty, I'm not up on encryption, but the channel usually has those that are, here are a link regardless. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome#Encrypted_Home
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> s/are/is
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> Notice the older release info is all, for id relative info on your release
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> if*
[01:00] <badk1tty> i know RTFM i should know better
[01:01] <badk1tty> thats what i get fur bein in a hurry
[01:01] <badk1tty> thanks i appreciate it
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> badk1tty, I just only have used truecrypt for my passwords is all.
[01:03] <badk1tty> is there a nix ver for that proggie?
[01:03] <badk1tty> *waits wiff anticipation*
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> badk1tty, I use it in linux, you can do whole partitions and files, however the ubuntu repos have good stuff, and is supported here.
[01:04] <badk1tty> outstanding
[01:04] <vicsar> .
[01:05] <badk1tty> i was looking at Mint too have you used that distro?
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> truecrypt is closed source and 32rd party so a bit harder to get any help at all.
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> 3rd lol
[01:05] <badk1tty> cryptography is never easy unless its cracked ... :)
[01:05] <mouseguy> hi, im trying to install gpm but "sudo apt-get install gpm" returns message: Package gpm is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> badk1tty, I haven't but many like it, it is just ubuntu with some extras and forked desktops basically.
[01:06] <[jensen]> is Abelton worth trying to run under WINE, or should I stick with a VM?  I'm worried about support for the VSTs I use
[01:06] <badk1tty> so just another pretty face same base
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> badk1tty, I think of it as ubuntu in drag. ;)
[01:06] <badk1tty> lol
[01:07] <badk1tty> well just htink how much fun im gonna have trying to get Autocad 2014 to run in nix
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> heh, earlier releases run I guess I have not needed it but checked it out.
[01:08] <badk1tty> what v of cad?
[01:08] <badk1tty> was that in wine?
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> badk1tty, I'm mistaken it was a terminal math thing a friend run on apple, I forget the name.
[01:09] <badk1tty> wouldn't be matlab would it?
[01:09] <aguitel> how install google earth in 13.04
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> that it is. ;l)
[01:10] <badk1tty> :)
[01:10] <badk1tty> cool proggie
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, Shpould be a google download on the web.
[01:10] <badk1tty> kinda like a fourier transform
[01:10] <aguitel> wilee-nilee, ok
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, I see this though. http://askubuntu.com/questions/302135/google-earth-on-13-04-ubuntu
[01:11] <aguitel> thanks
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, No problem, google earth as I have see usually needs the stable to install i ubuntu.
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> in*
[01:11] <aguitel> a ok
[01:12] <afsdf> how to check for disk error in ubuntu?
[01:12] <badk1tty> isn't there a bunch of stuff in the software section
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> afsdf, There is a smart check in the menu called disks
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> disk manager or something they changed the name per release
[01:13] <badk1tty> cute
[01:13] <badk1tty> im still getting used to the window ctrls on the left
[01:14] <Daelm> has anybody heard of a method to get the 'tap to click' to work on the logitech t650 trackpads?
[01:16] <g_laas> fdgfdgdfgfsdfsdfsf
[01:16] <afsdf> i dont think i got 88g of data on my disk
[01:16] <afsdf> what's the best way to check for error ?
[01:17] <g_laas> test
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> Daelm, here is one http://cmattoon.com/articles/logitech-t650-ubuntu.php and another http://askubuntu.com/search?q=logitech-t650
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> afsdf, use the smart disk check that is on board
[01:18] <afsdf> that found nothing
[01:18] <badk1tty> btw thanks wilee
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> afsdf, cool
[01:19] <afsdf> smart test is for checking bad sector
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> afsdf, "how to check for disk error in ubuntu?" hmmmmm
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> detials my son
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> badk1tty, No prob.
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> Daelm, From a quick glance it seems to work, however with limitations.
[01:24] <jonathan21> hola
[01:24] <jonathan21> alguien abla español?
[01:26] <Dr_willis> !es
[01:28] <afsdf> any partition repair tool in ubuntu
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> !fsck
[01:35] <afflicto> I just downloaded sublime text 2 and I added a sublime.desktop file but the icon I added doesn't show up. Does it need a specific image format? (it's PNG)
[01:37] <SonikkuAmerica> afflicto: It shouldn't need to be a specific filetype, but I think only JPG, BMP, GIF and SVG are supported... someone check me on that.
[01:38] <Dr_willis> I recall some guide on omgubuntu or webupd8 on setting up sublime witth a launcher/desktop file..
[01:38] <Dr_willis> but i dont use  the program.
[01:39] <Dr_willis> I would think a .desktop file can work with a png image.  the icon cache/menu cache may also take some time to rescan/reload.
[01:42] <Dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/installing-sublime-text-in-ubuntu
[01:43] <aguitel> i installed google earth ,everything right but panoramio photos are blank ,any one know this?
[01:43] <fazza> hi:P
[01:44] <fazza> we have some new falcons
[01:44] <fazza> we bred them
[01:44] <SonikkuAmerica> fazza: How well do they PUNCH?
[01:44] <fazza> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=539718856092205&l=13d60ed764
[01:44] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | inb4, fazza
[01:44] <fazza> they are still minors :D
[01:44] <afflicto> SonikkuAmerica: ok, I found a package from webupd8 tho which made a desktop entry :P
[01:45] <SonikkuAmerica> afflicto: kk
[01:46] <afflicto> Is there an easy way to run an application from terminal but "outside" the terminal? so I can continue using the terminal for other tasks?
[01:47] <Dr_willis> afflicto,  command &
[01:47] <Dr_willis> bash job controll fundamentals
[01:47] <afflicto> Dr_willis: works great thanks :)
[01:47] <SonikkuAmerica> afflicto: And after that, you can smash the terminal with the ^D hammer
[01:48] <SonikkuAmerica> afflicto: without killing all its child processes
[01:48] <Dr_willis> http://www.symkat.com/understanding-job-control-in-bash
[01:49] <tenguix> Chirp?
[01:49] <tenguix> Help please.
[01:50] <SonikkuAmerica> !ask | tenguix: Penguins don't chirp
[01:50] <Dr_willis> details please...
[01:50] <linex> whts the best linex to ever be created?
[01:50] <Dr_willis> linex,  no idea what 'linex' is.....
[01:50] <tenguix> BIOS update [most likely] needs to be done.
[01:50] <falkenMaze> my boot is broke. can get to recovery mode and thats it. no really traceable error either.
[01:50] <Dr_willis> !best > linex
[01:51] <SonikkuAmerica> !details | tenguix: How do you figure?
[01:51] <tenguix> Is ubottu a bot?
[01:51] <tenguix> :)
[01:51] <Dr_willis> uBOTtu,
[01:52] <Dr_willis> !bot
[01:52] <tenguix> yes.
[01:52] <tenguix> Well. I figure cause out of nowhere, one day, a shutdown made my system hang forever.
[01:52] <tenguix> now it hangs forever, every time, no exception across any distro.
[01:52] <tenguix> Of linux, not just ubuntu.
[01:52] <Dr_willis> tenguix,  i dont see how hanging on shutdown - imples you need a bios update. which may or may not even exist..
[01:53] <tenguix> Well, I scavenged far and white for explanations.
[01:53] <tenguix> Found matching reports across other distros, regarding laptops. And the bios update was the only thing that worked for some people
[01:53] <Dr_willis> APCI/APIC/APM quirks in the bios/kernel, often fixable with some kernel boot options. - If you want to update your bios. then go for it.
[01:53] <tenguix> I know my bios is four plus versions out of date.
[01:54] <tenguix> I've tinkered with the bios and kernel, nothing has worked since the first time it hung.
[01:54] <Dr_willis> it would seem odd that it was working, then suddendly stopped.
[01:54] <tenguix> It does, yet it doesnt.
[01:54] <an0n> The network-manager Ubuntu stores the password for that site?
[01:55] <tenguix> My sound card did the same thing, but it came back to life. This didnt resolve itself, its really the only thing I haven't been able to rewrite and rerun.
[01:56] <Dr_willis> sounds like you may be having deeper hardware issues tenguix . If it used to work. then no longer works and theres been no other changes.
[01:56] <tenguix> Yeah thats what I'm hoping against :)
[01:56] <tenguix> Is there a quick way to identify the offset of some bunk sectors?
[01:57] <tenguix> (bad sectors)..
[01:57] <Dr_willis> badblocks command perhaps. ive rarely had to fight with bad hds. ;) if they act up i replace them
[01:57] <tenguix> Every time I run a scan, badblocks doesnt find anything
[01:57] <tenguix> Only when I query SMART
[01:57] <an0n> The network-manager Ubuntu stores the password for that site?
[01:58] <tenguix> like, with udev and such
[01:58] <Dr_willis> an0n,  that questionmakes very little sence.
[01:58] <tenguix> or when I used to have a real ubuntu distro, and I used some gnome tool.
[01:58] <tenguix> I hate gnome.
[01:58] <tenguix> >:[
[01:58] <Dr_willis> the systemrescue live cd - has numerous disk and other trouble shooting tools.
[01:59] <tenguix> well, grumbles aside, I still am seeking some serious aid in this area.
[01:59] <David-A> tenguix: if a bad block is detected during write, the hd itself replaces the bad block and a scan afterwards wont find anything. SMART is a good way to monitor the hd status
[01:59] <an0n> Dr_willis: I wonder if the passwords stored by network-manager of the connections are made on disk?
[02:00] <Dr_willis> an0n,  i dont think network manager stores anything about the specific web sites the users goes to. thats not its job.
[02:00] <tenguix> Dr. Willis: are there any systemrescue images for modern kernels? And David: are there any ways to FIND the offset on the disk of said sectors?
[02:00] <Dr_willis> tenguix,  system rescue live cd homepage would say what kerneles its for. I imagine they keep up to date.
[02:00] <tenguix> My laptop seems to really, really like the newer kernels. AMD has chipped in a great deal since like, ubuntu 11
[02:01] <an0n> Dr_willis: In which place?
[02:03] <an0n> Dr_willis: When the user enters the password for connecting to a network using network-manager, this password is stored where?
[02:04] <tenguix> Thank you Willis
[02:04] <tenguix> Dr_willis: thank you.
[02:06] <moes> How to change launch command in an existing launcher
[02:06] <Governador> Alguem aqui que use Vmware no Ubuntu 13.04, depois que aparece o "txt" no terminal, qual o botão que pressiono para que avance a instalação?
[02:06] <tenguix> moes: each launcher should have a '.desktop' extension, the files are somewhere in '~/.config', usually
[02:07] <tenguix> you could do a 'find ~/.config |& grep '\.desktop$'
[02:07] <moes> tenguix, Thanks for the info
[02:08] <an0n> Dr_willis: I ask because I wonder if when the network password is changed and the user enters the new password if it replaces the old file and in the same position that it is hard disc?
[02:08] <tenguix> Willis
[02:08] <Governador> When I select the 'Suspend', the computer does not realize what was selected and goes to a black screen and stays there for minutes without shutting down or suspending. I have to press the power dial to turn off the notebook. Does anyone have any idea what it might be?
[02:08] <tenguix> OH MY GOD
[02:08] <tenguix> THATS WHAT HAPPENS TO ME
[02:08] <tenguix> GOVERNATOR
[02:08] <FloodBot1> tenguix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:10] <dopie> how do i upgrade to the new version of sublime text 2
[02:11] <shawn> hi guys I am having issues installing virtualbox. I tried installing the .deb from the virtualbox website and ever since I have been unable to remove or install the package properly even from the repository
[02:11] <shawn> any assistance would be great!
[02:11] <Dr_willis> dopie,  install it from the sublime web site would be my guess
[02:12] <shawn> Dr_willis do you ever get a day off?
[02:12] <Dr_willis> shawn,  just came back from 2 weeks of vacation.
[02:12] <shawn> Dr_willis thats great. I'm sure the community missed you
[02:14] <lifelike> dopie, the only way is through the website
[02:14] <David-A> tenguix: welcome back :) I don't know if there is a way to find which blocks the hd itself have mapped to replacement blocks. but there is no need to, that blocks need not be avoided in a mkfs or something, since they are good again.
[02:15] <shawn> hi guys, I know you are assisting others with their issues. Whenever my turn comes up, just let me know :) thanks guys! You are the best!
[02:15] <lifelike> dopie, you can use this guide for a neat Ubuntu install http://www.technoreply.com/how-to-install-sublime-text-2-on-ubuntu-12-04-unity/
[02:15] <austin_> hi
[02:15] <lifelike> shawn, ask away
[02:16] <David-A> tenguix: but if a bad block is detected during read, it will not be automatically remapped, and can be found using badblocks, that will report the block number.
[02:16] <austin_> hello
[02:16] <shawn> hi lifelike, as I stated earlier I tried installing virtualbox from the deb downloaded from oracle's website. Ever since I tried installing it, I have been unable to successfully remove or reinstall the application (or even run it!)
[02:17] <shawn> when I try to run: "sudo apt-get remove virtualbox-4.2"
[02:17] <lifelike> shawn: okay, how are you trying to execute it? Can you try running it form a terminal?
[02:18] <lifelike> shawn: since you installed it from a deb file it probably wont show in apt-get
[02:18] <lifelike> shawn: you would have to use dpkg
[02:18] <shawn> lifelike: running the command "virtualbox" from the terminal produces the output /usr/bin/virtualbox: line 1: $'\377\377
[02:18] <shawn> and the "\377" repeats itself a countless number of times
[02:19] <farsight> ....
[02:20] <lifelike> i'm guessing /usr/bin/virtualbox is a script then
[02:20] <lifelike> can you paste the contents in bpaste.net and link it here
[02:20] <shawn> I tried to run "sudo dpkg -r virtualbox-4.2"
[02:20] <shawn> sure
[02:20] <shawn> brb
[02:21] <shawn> http://bpaste.net/show/114185/
[02:21] <shawn> thats the output
[02:21] <shawn> okay as for the "\377" this is the output I was talking about earlier
[02:22] <lifelike> sorry I wasn't clear. I meant can you open the script /usr/bin/virtualbox and paste that contents in bpaste
[02:22] <shawn> sure
[02:22] <shawn> one moment
[02:23] <shawn> here you are: http://bpaste.net/show/114186/
[02:23] <crf> hi. what key do you use to select something in the Package Configuration. I thought "enter" worked. But it doesn't.
[02:23] <lifelike> try this: cat /usr/bin/virtualbox
[02:23] <lifelike> paste that contents
[02:23] <dopie> ok how do i force overite somethimg trying to move
[02:23] <dopie> sudo mv Sublime\ Text\ 2 /opt/   gives me mv: cannot move `Sublime Text 2' to `/opt/Sublime Text 2': Directory not empty
[02:24] <shawn> here you are (this is the output for "cat /usr/bin/virtualbox": http://bpaste.net/show/114187/
[02:26] <lifelike> shawn: okay, then it isn't a script..
[02:26] <lifelike> are you running 13.04?
[02:26] <shawn> yes
[02:27] <shawn> lifelike: i think im just going to reinstall ubuntu again.. 5th times a charm im sure
[02:27] <lifelike> shawn, hold on
[02:27] <lifelike> is this a 64 bit or 32 bit installation?
[02:28] <shawn> 64-bit
[02:28] <lifelike> virtualbox 4.2.12?
[02:28] <shawn> this is the package I obtained from oracle's website: virtualbox-4.2_4.2.16-86992~Ubuntu~raring_amd64.deb
[02:28] <dopie> sudo mv Sublime\ Text\ 2 /opt/   gives me mv: cannot move `Sublime Text 2' to `/opt/Sublime Text 2': Directory not empty  how do i force move everything
[02:29] <lifelike> dopie: force moving is mv -f , but take care with that flag
[02:29] <shawn> dopie sudo mv -f
[02:29] <dopie> hehehe
[02:29] <dopie> :)
[02:29] <dopie> thanks
[02:29] <shawn> dopie:
[02:30] <shawn> dopie: if you need to learn about a command try "man mv"
[02:30] <shawn> or "man (command here)"
[02:30] <shawn> if that makes sense
[02:30] <crf> ok. I see it is a program called "whiptail" that runs this package configuration dialog.
[02:30] <lifelike> shawn: so apparently there's a bug in the deb install of virtualbox which is causing that problem
[02:30] <lifelike> I just googled it
[02:30] <dopie> ahh ok
[02:30] <dopie> shawn,
[02:30] <shawn> lifelike: so next time I should try to just "sudo apt-get" i suppose
[02:31] <shawn> dopie: hi
[02:31] <dopie> oops
[02:31] <dopie> shawn, thank you
[02:31] <shawn> :( it wasnt me
[02:31] <shawn> lifelike: can you please link me to the kb you are reading this from?
[02:31] <lifelike> shawn: it's safer with apt-get
[02:32] <lifelike> http://askubuntu.com/questions/288835/virtualbox-4-2-12-installation-breaks-ubuntu-13-04-desktop
[02:32] <afflicto> I have a problem with apache2 I'm getting 403 forbidden. here's my sites-available/afflicto file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872892/ thanks in advance
[02:32] <lifelike> not the same issue as you though
[02:32] <shawn> ah ok.. well ill reinstall ;) cant take too long
[02:32] <shawn> thanks for your help lifelike!
[02:32] <lifelike> follow this guide instead: http://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/virtualization/install-virtualbox-4-2-on-ubuntu-13-04.html#axzz2Yz1G6tn7
[02:32] <shawn> you are the man!
[02:33] <lifelike> shawn: i highly doubt that :)
[02:33] <lifelike> thanks though!
[02:33] <shawn> lol cya guys
[02:34] <nbags> anyone used owncloud? is there something like this around that can do deduplication? or some way to make owncloud do it?
[02:35] <lifelike> nbags: what do you mean by deduplications?
[02:35] <lifelike> versioning?
[02:36] <nbags> lifelike: so like, if i move/rename a file, it won't reupload it again. and if i have 2 copies of the same file it won't store/upload 2 copies. like dropbox/gdrive, etc can handle. better still do it at block level...
[02:36] <lifelike> nbags, version history is the term you're looking for :)
[02:37] <crf> oh it's the space key.
[02:37] <lifelike> I've been monitoring owncloud for a while and version history is the only thing you're looking for, consider using git
[02:37] <gddsfg> is it possible to decrypt home directory wihout using extra space?
[02:37] <lifelike> nbagsall these applications like gdrive and dropbox are based on hit
[02:38] <gddsfg> decrypt home directory from terminal required  extra space
[02:38] <gddsfg> or is it possible to disable home folder encryption
[02:38] <SlimyWon> join #gcc
[02:38] <nbags> lifelike: can i mount git like a filesystem? and if i copy a file into it which already exists somewhere else in the tree, will it detect the hash and "upload" it instantly?
[02:40] <lifelike> nbags: git is *just* version control, are you looking for version control but without cloud storage?
[02:41] <lifelike> in which case I'd say owncloud might be the easiest way I can think off right now
[02:42] <Georwl> any russians here?
[02:43] <nbags> lifelike: no, looking for something like opencloud that has data de-duplication for uploads, and so is smart about moves/renames/copies
[02:43] <SonikkuAmerica> !ru > Georwl
[02:43] <nbags> s/opencloud/owncloud
[02:46] <kalakj> hello everyone, i have one problem, whenever i try to shut down, my laptop restarts, i recently updated UBuntu 12.04 LTS and there was also kernel update. Help me to solve that problem
[02:48] <lifelike> nbags: I recently came across this kickstarter campaign for a device called Plug: http://meetplug.com/kickstarter/
[02:48] <lifelike> Maybe something you'd be interested in?
[02:48] <kalakj> hello everyone, i have one problem, whenever i try to shut down, my laptop restarts, i recently updated UBuntu 12.04 LTS and there was also kernel update. Help me to solve that problem
[02:52] <F41L> Ok... so, still having this EFI issue. I've now downloaded rEFInd, and I get this "Error: UNsupported while loading iso9660_x64.efi, Error: UNsupported while loading HFS_x64.efi, Error: UNsupported while loading EXT2_x64.efi, Error: UNsupported while loading ET4_x64.efi, Error: UNsupported while loading tridrtgd_x64.efi, Error: UNsupported while loading btrs_x64.efi. * Hit any key to continue * "
[02:52] <F41L> Not sure where that puts me with trying to install ubuntu on this lattitude 10 TS2
[02:55] <benkong2> anyone got an idea why gdm would not be called at boot?
[02:55] <benkong2> my system boots to a black screen, I have to ctrl-alt-F1 then login and use startx and all is normal
[02:56] <benkong2> if I do sudo gdm from a terminal I get a warning that gdm is not running
[03:00] <Xaos> good evening all
[03:00] <Dr_willis> benkong2,  lightdm is the default. , and it would be 'sudo service lightdm restart' or 'gdm restart' to restart it
[03:00] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm (or lightdm) to select the default *dm
[03:01] <benkong2> Dr_willis: ok thanks
[03:01] <Johnathon> Is it natural for a Lubuntu installation to freeze on "eGenerating locales en.US_UTF-8"?
[03:02] <Xaos> May I ask a quick question about installing Ubuntu?
[03:02] <saiarcot895> Johnathon: you might want to try #lubuntu instead
[03:03] <saiarcot895> Xaos: don't ask to ask; just ask
[03:03] <Johnathon> Oh sorry
[03:03] <Xaos> :-) was just being polite and waiting my turn.  didnt want to be pushy
[03:03] <saiarcot895> Xaos: that's fine :)
[03:04] <sarthor> HI, I changed the body of my laptop, and I only this is Harman/Kardon Toshiba laptop, How to know the exact model name of this laptop. Linux installed. HELP
[03:05] <Xaos> I am going to install it on my laptop.  Now from everything I read thus far, I will be able to dual boot.  Is this 100% accurate?  I don't want to lose windows, at least not just yet.
[03:06] <saiarcot895> Xaos: yes, if you make space for Ubuntu on a separate partition, you should be able to use Windows and Ubuntu
[03:06] <saiarcot895> sarthor: I don't think you can get the model name of your computer from Linux itself
[03:06] <somsip>  zzax  c /]l\~~555666y78op[03:06] <Dr_willis> Model Name? should be on a sticker on the laptop.
[03:07] <Xaos> Will the Ubuntu installation allow me to take free space from my existing partition and create a new one?  Or is that something I need to do with another third party program first?
[03:07] <Dr_willis> what chipset is IN the laptop is more imporntant for the most part
[03:07] <sarthor> Dr_willis: laptop body changed. No sticker remaining
[03:07] <Dr_willis> Xaos,  i find it easier/faster to have windows resize its own partions.
[03:07] <saiarcot895> Xaos: in addition, Disk Management in Windows might help
[03:08] <guitarHester> sarthor: what do you get from uname -a  ?
[03:08] <Xaos> ok, thanks for the info!
[03:09] <sarthor> guitarHester: Linux linux-mint-deb 3.2.0-4-486 #1 Debian 3.2.32-1 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:09] <guitarHester> hm, I didn't think you would get a straight model name from uname
[03:10] <guitarHester> how about   hostname?   ... don't print that here
[03:10] <guitarHester> But a lot of the time, the default hostname set by recent GNULinux OS will include the model number.
[03:11] <saiarcot895> sarthor: after googling, I found this: do "sudo lshw -C system"
[03:11] <guitarHester> Recently I installed 13.04 on a Dell D630, the default hostname turned out to be  something like   Dell-D630
[03:12] <guitarHester> saiarcot895: cool!
[03:12] <allaire> anybody use monit + upstart?
[03:12] <saiarcot895> guitarHester: I didn't realize Linux could get this much info from the hardware
[03:13] <guitarHester> lspci and lsmod have saved me so many times... makes sense there would be a "list hardware" command.
[03:16] <PepperoniPizza> saiarcot895, does not compute
[03:16] <saiarcot895> PepperoniPizza: the lshw?
[03:16] <sarthor> saiarcot895: yea. that worked. says PSAW0U-0FU033B
[03:16] <PepperoniPizza> saiarcot895, that you didn't think linux could find out about the hardware lol
[03:16] <qin_> guitarHester: lshw ?
[03:17] <guitarHester> PepperoniPizza: we were all new once; I'm still very new
[03:21] <RoDiMuS-X> Good evening guys, I installed the Nvidia Drivers in Ubuntu 13.04 and now my TTY font is huge, do you know how to adjust the resolution?
[03:22] <falkenMaze> my boot is broke. it appears to be hanging at mounting the filesystem but fstab looks normal http://sprunge.us/gRQc  I can get to recovery mode and thats it. no really traceable error either.
[03:23] <zonne> is yoshi here
[03:24] <zonne> he better not be because if he is
[03:24] <zonne> it won't be pretty
[03:26] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, ran an fsck on the file system ?
[03:26] <falkenMaze> PepperoniPizza yes, zero errors
[03:26] <falkenMaze> fsck -f
[03:27] <afflicto> I'm trying to create a virtualhost so I can host my files in /home/afflicto/public_html/ but I keep getting 403 errors. I followed this guide: http://www.maketecheasier.com/install-and-configure-apache-in-ubuntu/2011/03/09 Please help, thanks.
[03:27] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, and if you boot a live-cd are you able to mount / to say /root to test it ?
[03:28] <PepperoniPizza> maybe run a SMART check on the hard drive too
[03:28] <falkenMaze> PepperoniPizza yes, I am chrooted to the OS now
[03:28] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, hmm
[03:28] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, i'd def run a smart test on the HD to run out hardware issues
[03:28] <falkenMaze> it's a vm
[03:28] <falkenMaze> new
[03:29] <falkenMaze> migrate (rsynced) host
[03:29] <shawn> afflicto: are you sure you configured the .htaccess file correctly?
[03:29] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, hmm  sorry no idea
[03:29] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, although the vm files do still live on a hard drive.
[03:30] <falkenMaze> the host is functioning perfectly.
[03:30] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, yea im grasping at straws since there isn't alot of info to go on
[03:31] <falkenMaze> It was runing and rebooting normally tile I upgraded from 10.something to 12.04
[03:32] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, well that is more info :-) seems like the upgrade broke something
[03:33] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, might be best to just do a fresh install of whatever version you plan on using
[03:33] <falkenMaze> PepperoniPizza I had just got grub2 working prior to the upgrade. I was trying to think ahead.
[03:36] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, hasn't grub 2 been standard for awhile
[03:36] <afflicto> shawn: .htaccess file? :S
[03:37] <falkenMaze> PepperoniPizza it had 0.97
[03:37] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, i'd grab whatever data you need off the install and just do a fresh install of 12.10 or 13.04
[03:42] <Memnoch> I did a sudo apt-get install youtube-dl but sometimes the filenames it uses are a problem - i want to modify it - but I do not know where to look?  I am an MS programmer trying to make the change to nix, but am finding simple things rather difficult.
[03:43] <PepperoniPizza> Memnoch, man youtube-dl
[03:43] <PepperoniPizza> might have a manual page
[03:43] <wheatthin> Memnoch, did you try to use man youtube-dl.. it'll probably show you all the switches
[03:43] <tomivs> Hi for all
[03:43] <wheatthin> aww PepperoniPizza  lol
[03:43] <Memnoch> thank you pizza
[03:43] <Memnoch> did that
[03:43] <tomivs> I want install a kernel compiled for me
[03:44] <Memnoch> shove some roni up ur ass
[03:44] <wheatthin> Memnoch, hey be nice
[03:44] <wheatthin> or leave.
[03:44] <Memnoch> soz
[03:45] <Memnoch> i have been trolling the man pages, googling etc.
[03:45] <PepperoniPizza> i'll shove my roni up your ass
[03:45] <Memnoch> it's not like i have not tried
[03:45] <wheatthin> STOP
[03:45] <PepperoniPizza> and you will love it
[03:45] <ryperface> tomivs: What format is the kernel on?
[03:46] <Memnoch> the man pages do not tell me where the script is
[03:46] <ryperface> tomivs: in*
[03:46] <wheatthin> Memnoch, it doesn't have to, search your system
[03:46] <tomivs> ryperface, tar.bz2
[03:47] <tomivs> ryperface, I have the kernel decompressed
[03:47] <Memnoch> if i want to modify the script i need to know where it is - the man pages tell me how to use it - i know how to use it - i want to modify how it works - and its a perl script, so surely it must be somewhere
[03:47] <ryperface> tomivs: when you say it was compiled for you, what exactly do you mean?
[03:48] <wheatthin> Memnoch, so search your system, either use find or locate
[03:48] <tomivs> ryperface, I want a kernel compiled by me
[03:48] <ryperface> tomivs: Ah, that's different.
[03:49] <tomivs> ryperface, I downloaded the source
[03:50] <ryperface> Can someone get tomivs a link to compile and install your own kernel? I'm on my phone.
[03:50] <Memnoch> I would like to apologise to pizza - I am just frustrated at this point and what I said was uncalled for.
[03:50] <wheatthin> it's not recommended
[03:50] <tomivs> wheatthin, Ok
[03:51] <tomivs> Anyway i want
[03:52] <tomivs> Does anyone help me?
[03:52] <falkenMaze> Memnoch the kernel is an i/o. you download the sources to /usr/src/linux and run 'make menuconfig' to get into it. that whole command line based gui is a tool that makes modifying the /usr/src/linux/.config a lot easier. manual edit is a pain in the butt.
[03:53] <wheatthin> tomivs, is there a reason for the new kernel?
[03:54] <tomivs> wheatthin, For better compatibility with hardware and update me
[03:54] <wheatthin> tomivs, which hardware isn't working?
[03:54] <tomivs> wheatthin, Monitor
[03:54] <falkenMaze> Memnoch your actual kernel file is typically /boot/vmlinuz-3.2~
[03:55] <tomivs> wheatthin, IBM e54
[03:55] <F41L> So I just don't think I can figure out how to get a 32bit efi booting Ubuntu install :(
[03:55] <F41L> I'm stuck with Windows 8
[03:55] <PepperoniPizza> tomaw, monitors are plug and play ?
[03:55] <PepperoniPizza> tomivs*
[03:55] <tomivs> PepperoniPizza, Yes
[03:55] <wheatthin> falkenMaze, not it isn't, the pointers are there lol
[03:55] <Alan___> Hi all.
[03:55] <wheatthin> kernel is located in /usr/src
[03:55] <falkenMaze> wheatthin depends on the os
[03:56] <Memnoch> why would i want to rebuild my kernel?
[03:56] <tomivs> wheatthin, ok
[03:57] <falkenMaze> sometimes its hidden in an unmount sda2 as /boot
[03:57] <Alan___> I am using a shared lan connection from my ubuntu box into my raspberry pi. It works great, but when I reboot, ubuntu decides that the shared connection is the primary one, and I have no internet till I delete that in the network manager. How can I make it keep it straight?
[03:57] <wheatthin> tomivs, and your monitor is plug n play, so there shouldn't be a need for it
[03:58] <tomivs> wheatthin, It looks very dark
[03:58] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, can't you just use ifdown eth0 or some such to put the interface down ?
[03:58] <wheatthin> tomivs, very dark? turn up the brightness
[03:58] <PepperoniPizza> and then use ifup eth0 to bring it back
[03:58] <tomivs> wheatthin, How to?
[03:58] <ryperface> wow...
[03:59] <tomivs> The dark tones do not look good
[03:59] <PepperoniPizza> not sure if serious, or a troll
[03:59] <Alan___> PepperoniPizza, I can do that, but I dont want to have to mess with it each time I reboot. Network manager should have some mechanism for remembering usage and device order
[03:59] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, no idea, I don't use network manager
[04:00] <tomivs> wheatthin, I have the brightness 100% configured in the monitor buttons
[04:00] <wheatthin> tomivs, are there different "modes" on your monitor?
[04:00] <tomivs> I think it's the video card
[04:00] <wheatthin> different temperatures
[04:01] <wheatthin> tomivs, what kind of graphics card do you have?
[04:02] <Alan___> It is a bit mystifying. eth0 is my onboard NIC and eth1 is a pci card. but no matter what I name the connection, it sorts it to first when I boot.
[04:02] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, sorts to what first ?
[04:03] <tomivs> wheatthin, Chipset NVIDIA
[04:03] <tomivs> Geforce G150SE nForce 430
[04:03] <Alan___> PepperoniPizza, it always sorts the list(of 2 items) so that the shared connection between my computer and the raspberry pi is first. I end up with no outgoing lan connection because eth0 is ignored.
[04:04] <tomivs> wheatthin, Chipset NVIDIA Geforce G150SE nForce 430
[04:04] <Alan___> It works fine, it just gets confused at boot time.
[04:04] <wheatthin> tomivs, is your monitor backlit?
[04:04] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, hmm
[04:05] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, so, the lan to your raspberry pi is just so you can SSH in right ?
[04:05] <Alan___> Correct PepperoniPizza.
[04:06] <tomivs> wheatthin, I think yes
[04:06] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, i'd setup an /etc/network/interfaces file
[04:08] <wheatthin> tomivs, did you install the nvidia driver?
[04:09] <tomivs> wheatthin, No
[04:09] <Alan___> Pepperoni. I think that is a good idea, but I am a loss where to start. I'm reading on it now. Thanks for your advice and attention. I now have some forward  momentum.
[04:09] <wheatthin> tomivs, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[04:09] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, i'd setup an /etc/network/interfaces file using a static IP for the network card going to the raspberry pi, do you use dhcp for your internet ?
[04:10] <Alan___> PepperoniPizza, yes, the network connection application is using dhcp
[04:11] <mdel> any idea why my bluetooth headset would not work in ubuntu, even with it connected and the device seleced in the sound settings?
[04:11] <mdel> i just get nothing
[04:12] <kelly> hello guys , i want to access windows shared folder in ubuntu , i installed samba ststem-config-samba python-glade now when i open the file manager - network i can see all the folders sharing on the network but can't access them ! every time i open a folder there is an error message Unable to mount location , Failed to mount Windows share
[04:12] <afflicto> Ok, so I have set the owner of public_html to "www-data" so apache can access it. I also did sudo chmod -R 777 public_html && sudo chmod -R +x public_html still 403 error -,-
[04:12] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, if you give me all the info I can make an /etc/network/interfaces file for you to try
[04:12] <fasdsdf> how to remove encryption on home folder
[04:12] <Alan___> PepperoniPizza, I think that makes sense and gives me a handle on what to google. Ultimately I would like to present my raspberry pi to the router so that I can use my phone to ssh into the raspberry. Right now it is hidden behind my ubuntu box, but one step at a time. I think you have helped me a lot already. Thank you.
[04:13] <Alan___> It is important that I learn it, so thanks for the offer, but I will muddle through it. I'll break a virtual box connection learning.
[04:14] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, well the raspberry runs a linux based OS correct? So the *easiest* way would be to connect the raspberry to the router and use DHCP to grab an IP for it, then you can SSH to it from any device on your local network and even the internet if you forward port 22 to the ip of the raspberry
[04:15] <afflicto> Can someone please help me? I made a post here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17636389/apache2-virtualhost-403-forbidden
[04:15] <Alan___> PepperoniPizza, that is correct(they are neat little devices). I had it directly connected before, but now I am out of reach for a second cable. I moved my office.
[04:16] <wheatthin> afflicto, did you try to set the directory properties in the virtual config for apache?
[04:17] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, I have a 100 ft ethernet cord in my house you can get cheap ones from monoprice.com ;-)
[04:18] <Alan___> PepperoniPizza, I do too, but I dont want one snaking across the floor. :) I am working on controlling RC servo motors and LED lights, so I need the Raspberry Pi in arms reach for the moment.
[04:18] <pupusera75c64> is there a cmd for dd to show status ?
[04:19] <wheatthin> --progress pupusera75c64
[04:19] <ryperface> pupusera75c64: killall -USR1 dd
[04:19] <pupusera75c64> dd --progress if=... ?
[04:19] <tomivs> wheatthin, The nvidia-current has been installed
[04:19] <Alan___> PepperoniPizza, this is a good thing to learn, but if it doesnt work well, I'll think about crawling in the crawl space and running a second lan cable. Thanks again, have a good day/night cycle. :P
[04:19] <afflicto> wheatthin: I don't know what you mean sorry :P
[04:20] <wheatthin> pupusera75c64, dd if=<statement> of=<statment --progress
[04:20] <pupusera75c64> thx
[04:20] <Jordan_U> wheatthin: dd doesn't have a --progress option.
[04:20] <wheatthin> jordan, it did last time I checked
[04:20] <fasdsdf> it just so damn amazing in ubuntu ....when a disk is full ....it lock you out
[04:20] <Jordan_U> wheatthin: No, it never has. I think you're confusing dd with rsync.
[04:21] <wheatthin> jordan, I've never used rsync.
[04:21] <ryperface> lol
[04:21] <wheatthin> lol
[04:21] <tomivs> wheatthin, Hey
[04:22] <Jordan_U> fasdsdf: Please watch your language and attitude. What problem are you having?
[04:22] <Diamondcite> fasdsdf: Lock you out? how do you run so out of space that the system locks you out?
[04:23] <wheatthin> fasdsdf, when your disk is full, it's hard to run any commands, it's true in any linux
[04:23] <wheatthin> tomivs, did you try setting it up in nvidia-settings?
[04:23] <Diamondcite> wheatthin: Doesn't the OS reserve 5% disk space for just root/system tasks?
[04:24] <Jordan_U> wheatthin: Actually a small amount of space is reserved for use only by root, for exactly this reason (so that you can log into recovery mode and delete files).
[04:24] <wheatthin> Diamondcite, nope.. when it's full, it's full
[04:24] <fasdsdf> wheatthin then it is not a good os if it does that
[04:24] <afflicto> I fixed it. I needed to chmod not only /home/afflicto/public_html but also /home/afflicto directory. LOL! this voodoo. finally after 3 hours!
[04:24] <falkenMaze> Diamondcite nope
[04:24] <fasdsdf> it must reserve some space so that user can log in and do something about it
[04:25] <kelly> any idea guys
[04:25] <qin_> fasdsdf: matter of interpretation, can you login to terminl in text mode?
[04:25] <ryperface> fasdsdf: you can, it's called single user mode.
[04:25] <Jordan_U> wheatthin: That's the second piece of incorrect information you've given in 5 minutes. I suggest that you be more carefull about making statents on areas you're not sure of, or at least check that you have your information correct first.
[04:25] <falkenMaze> fasdsdf proper technique, for just that reason is 3 partitions. swap root and home
[04:26] <qin_> pupusera75c64: you can just "ls -l" to watch dd work
[04:27] <fasdsdf> qin_ problem is you can't delete files when login in that way as the home directory is encrypted
[04:27] <wheatthin> excuse the hell out of me, and instead of going off in the public, why not consult me with a PM, then maybe It'd rectify the situation? instead... nevermind you're not worth it.
[04:28] <falkenMaze> qin_  this one comes with a counter  http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Dcfldd
[04:28] <qin_> fasdsdf: is your /home/ encrypted?
[04:28] <Jordan_U> fasdsdf: You can mount an ecryptfs encrypted directory from recovery mode (assuming you know that user's login password). Let me find the relevant documentation.
[04:30]  * wheatthin hates uptight people
[04:30] <Diamondcite> Even on a full volume, won't a CONSOLE login still work? (Ctrl+alt+F1)
[04:32] <PepperoniPizza> Jordan_U, actually wheatthin was correct, I have a friend who filled up his disk so full he couldn't log in to ubuntu anymore and I had to delete some stuff
[04:32] <Network2501> mm
[04:32] <PepperoniPizza> he has done it more than once lol
[04:32] <Jordan_U> PepperoniPizza: I assume that you didn't try booting via recovery mode, because space is indeed reserved for use only by root.
[04:33] <qin_> PepperoniPizza: you can run linux pretty much from ram, hard drive would not matter...
[04:33] <PepperoniPizza> Jordan_U, I just booted a live-cd and deleted some crap and he was able to get in to xfce again
[04:34] <PepperoniPizza> qin_, what you are saying has no bearing on the info I provided, yes you could run linux in ram only if you had enough but that is not relevant to this discussion
[04:35] <Diamondcite> Graphical logins could break if the /home is full to user as temporary files needed for X authentication can't be made
[04:35] <Diamondcite> But a console login doesn't need any disk space.. it doesn't even need a /home to exist!
[04:35] <asdfsd> is there a way to decrypt home folder
[04:36] <PepperoniPizza> Diamondcite, thank you, that is what I was saying
[04:36] <qin_> PepperoniPizza: well, mean that you are able to solve issue of overhogged hd with of without live system.
[04:36] <asdfsd> not to another drive and folder
[04:36] <PepperoniPizza> qin_, I was a new user at that time and did not even know about ctrl+alt+f key to open a new tty
[04:37] <PepperoniPizza> so my solution was to boot a live-cd to fix it for him
[04:38] <wheatthin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/215505/how-do-you-monitor-the-progress-of-dd
[04:38] <rypervenche> asdfsd: Nope. It is an encrypted container.
[04:39] <asdfsd> rypervenche , noooooooooooooooooo ? no way to decrypt home folder to its own folder?
[04:39] <pupusera75c64> wheathin, --progress didnt work but the kill cmd
[04:39] <asdfsd> that's lame
[04:39] <falkenMaze> how do you break X11/xdm from the boot config?
[04:40] <rypervenche> asdfsd: I'm sure it's possible to move to another location, then make it a normal directory and move back, but nothing on the fly.
[04:40] <wheatthin> pupusera75c64, that's fine.. I was wrong for the first time in a long while.. Jordan_U shot me, oh well, glad the crude method worked
[04:40] <qin_> falkenMaze: you want to disable xdm?
[04:41] <rypervenche> pupusera75c64: ryper: 1   wheatthin: 0
[04:41] <falkenMaze> yes
[04:41] <pupusera75c64> hehe
[04:41] <pupusera75c64> k dd finisched, lets try
[04:42] <qin_> falkenMaze: in kernel line of grub (shift for menu, e for edit) replace "splash" with "text", booting with no x server at all ;)
[04:43] <wheatthin> I just wish people wouldn't get so uptight, they lose sight of any sort of mannors. It's alright to point out that I was wrong, which I admit, but to get blantently rude about it is uncalled for.
[04:43] <cogware> I'm trying to count the number of lines that fs_usage outputs in a single second. Anyone know how I can do this?
[04:44] <rypervenche> asdfsd: I never encrypt my home folder, I always do my full disk.
[04:44] <qin_> wheatthin: chill?
[04:44] <qin_> cogware: command |wc -n
[04:45] <wheatthin> like I said, it's not worth my time for others rudeness.
[04:45] <qin_> cogware: command |wc -l , sorry
[04:46] <cogware> qin_: fs_usage provides a constant real-time stream of filesystem activity, so if I just pipe it to wc, it will keep on going forever
[04:46] <undroidz> guys, I need help setting up ubuntu 10.04 (32-bit) inside a chroot jail. I have 12.04 (amd64) as the host system and debootstrap isn't installing apt/aptitude on it. I followed the wiki for debootstrap.
[04:46] <cogware> I need some way to terminate fs_usage after exactly 1 second, or to use grep or awk somehow to see when the timestamp switches over to the next second
[04:47] <qin_> cogware: well, strem to file, every 60 seconds replace log, count lines.
[04:47] <wheatthin> undroidz, ubuntu 10.04 is no longer supported
[04:47] <cogware> I tried that, but in less than 1 second it produced a 13mb file. I think that 1 second could easily be 130mb or 1.3g. It doesn't scale
[04:47] <qin_> cogware: every 1 second...
[04:47] <undroidz> ouch. yeah, just this april.
[04:50] <asdfsd> so no one got solution ?
[04:50] <falkenMaze> my computer boots and get to this point and freezes  http://i43.tinypic.com/df7xqe.png  fsck -f says the partition is fine, and I can chroot to the OS from a live cd, just can't boot.
[04:50] <tomas_> Hi
[04:50] <tomas_> I want
[04:51] <tomas_> Start the X
[04:51] <falkenMaze> tomas_ startx
[04:51] <twoeed> Hello.  I've got a bit of a firewall problem.
[04:51] <qin_> cogware: but is not fs_usage already time-stamped?
[04:51] <tomas_> falkenMaze: Ok i wll
[04:51] <twoeed> Apparently, it's not iptables
[04:51] <twoeed> or, I'm just setting something wrong.
[04:51] <qin_> tomas_: or xinit (pute x server)
[04:52] <cogware> It is... I want to figure out how to count the number of items that occured in a given second, say 21:49:49, and count them efficiently (i.e. without writing a record of everything to disk, but rather process it as a stream w/o buffering)
[04:52] <rypervenche> !ask | tomas_ twoeed
[04:52] <qin_> cogware: grep and wc
[04:52] <wheatthin> twoeed, ubuntu uses ufw by default, which might be easier than setting iptable commands
[04:52] <Arobaz> hii
[04:52] <cogware> Oh that is a good idea. That will work
[04:52] <cogware> Thank you
[04:52] <rypervenche> err, that was the wrong one. Please put your questions in one line so that it is easier for us to read :)
[04:52] <Arobaz> hii
[04:53] <Arobaz> need help for grub systeme.
[04:53] <wheatthin> !help | Arobaz
[04:53] <Arobaz> i can't move on the ground grub.
[04:53] <Arobaz> !patience
[04:53] <qin_> !enter > rypervenche right one
[04:53] <Arobaz> !enter > qin_ help!
[04:53] <rypervenche> qin_: Thanks :)
[04:54] <twoeed> wheatthin: Thanks, I'll look that up.  All my past firewall experience has been on CentOS.
[04:55] <wheatthin> twoeed, if you use a Gui.. install GUFW
[04:56] <rypervenche> twoeed: You can disable ufw and use iptables if you are more comfortable with it.
[04:56] <twoeed> wheatthin: Unfortunately, I'm not.  DuckDuckGoing vfw says it's a video codec.  could you direct me to a site for it?
[04:56] <twoeed> ryervenche: How?
[04:56] <qin_> !ufw
[04:56] <rypervenche> Does Ubuntu use systemd now?
[04:57] <twoeed> oh, ufw
[04:57] <twoeed> derp
[04:58] <qin_> rypervenche: http://tech.cueup.com/blog/2013/03/08/running-daemons/
[04:59] <rypervenche> qin_: I don't use Ubuntu, it was just so that I could answer twoeed's question :P
[04:59] <Arobaz> hey there
[04:59] <Arobaz> need help
[04:59] <Arobaz> some soutient
[04:59] <Arobaz> it is possible?
[05:00] <rypervenche> Un français. Yes, Arobaz we can help. Go ahead and ask your question.
[05:00] <wheatthin> !ask
[05:00] <Arobaz> Yes i'am ! rypervenche :p
[05:00] <Arobaz> I can't startx ubuntu, when i start i have only terminal mode no graphics
[05:00] <twoeed> I disabled ufw and the problem still occurs.  Perhaps I should describe my problem in more detail.
[05:01] <rypervenche> Arobaz: What kind of graphics card do you have? Is this a new installation?
[05:01] <Arobaz> yesterday i did a update drivers.
[05:01] <Arobaz> NVIDIA
[05:01] <twoeed> Basically, a friend and I are starting an irc channel for our server
[05:01] <qin_> rypervenche: upstart with some atavism of init
[05:01] <twoeed> We are using ubuntu server edition.
[05:01] <rypervenche> qin_: Ah that's right, it uses upstart now. Thanks.
[05:02] <twoeed> We got irc installed just fine.
[05:02] <twoeed> (we can connect to it locally)
[05:02] <Arobaz> rypervenche, Nvidia drivers i have a message when a try to start the kenel and drivers have not the same version.
[05:02] <twoeed> but it resets when I try to remotely.
[05:02] <Arobaz> kernel *
[05:02] <rypervenche> Arobaz: Yes, you'll need to have the module recompiled for your kernel.
[05:02] <twoeed> I at first thought the problem was iptables.
[05:02] <rypervenche> Umm...I don't know the command anymore for Ubuntu. Can someone help?
[05:02] <qin_> twoeed: pint one would be ircd config
[05:03] <Arobaz> rypervenche, it's possible to do that on CD try ?
[05:03] <twoeed> would it reset connections from foreign hosts by default?
[05:04] <Arobaz> rypervenche, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile that ?
[05:04] <rypervenche> Arobaz: No, let me see if I can find it for you. One sec.
[05:04] <benbloom> is defaults in the fstab just as a place saver for options? in otherwords, if I add some options, can I remove defaults as they are implied (unless counteracted by my options)?
[05:04] <Arobaz> thanks you rypervenche :)
[05:04] <sein> Guys, I'm on LM and I tried installing unity but it's not showing up on my session list (I'd ask in the LM support channel, but it's dead atm)
[05:05] <rypervenche> Arobaz: How did you install your Nvidia drivers?
[05:05] <qin_> twoeed: lets see: netstat -tulp (what does irc?)
[05:05] <Arobaz> rypervenche,  automaticly
[05:05] <rypervenche> Arobaz: Have you restarted the PC since the update?
[05:05] <Arobaz> yes more than 5 time.
[05:06] <twoeed> IRC's on port 5001.  It shows up in a netstat.
[05:06] <Arobaz> to try to access at my session.
[05:06] <twoeed> But you are right.
[05:06] <twoeed> I tried a python server on an arbitrary port, and it was open by default.
[05:06] <twoeed> It's not my firewall.
[05:06] <rypervenche> Arobaz: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[05:07] <twoeed> I'm using ircd-hybrid.
[05:07] <Arobaz> back.
[05:07] <Arobaz> sorry rypervenche
[05:07] <twoeed> Anybody know what I should change in the config file?
[05:08] <xangua> What is recomended to run java programs¿ openjdk6 or openjdk7¿
[05:08] <qin_> twoeed: what is "Local Address" of irc?
[05:10] <twoeed> It was 127.0.0.1
[05:10] <twoeed> I changed it to the server's IP.
[05:10] <qin_> twoeed: bad, net address or ip in config
[05:10] <twoeed> I changed the conf ip to the server's net address.
[05:11] <twoeed> it was commented as "change this"
[05:11] <qin_> twoeed: hehe
[05:12] <twoeed> well poop.
[05:12] <twoeed> didn't work.
[05:12] <twoeed> I restarted the daemon and all
[05:12] <wheatthin> twoeed, net address or internal addy?
[05:13] <twoeed> The server has one network connection which specifies its full net address.
[05:13] <twoeed> It's not on a LAN.
[05:13] <wheatthin> ahh ok.
[05:14] <qin_> twoeed: can you access irc on lan?
[05:15] <twoeed> Server is not on LAN, but I can access it from localhost.
[05:15] <mastershake> hey guys im having trouble killing a process , it keeps coming back
[05:16] <mastershake> i was told to use stop but im recieving errors that it cannot find said job to stop
[05:16] <twoeed> damn, I hate config files.
[05:16] <qin_> twoeed: did you change anything in listen block of config?
[05:16] <qin_> mastershake: what process?
[05:17] <mastershake> dhclient
[05:17] <twoeed> yep.
[05:18] <qin_> twoeed: and what ip did you provide?
[05:18] <twoeed> The server's ip on eth0
[05:18] <twoeed> Which is it's external ip
[05:19] <Ben64> is there any fingerprint recognition stuff for ubuntu? I got a laptop with a fingerprint scanner built in
[05:20] <mastershake> qin_: any ideas?
[05:24] <mastershake> anybody know how to kill a process and stop it from coming back?
[05:24] <qin_> mastershake: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1419803 but I do not get idea of killing it, since if you configured static network it should not bother you
[05:24] <twoeed> Got it.
[05:24] <twoeed> I forgot I wasn't root when I restarted the daemon.
[05:24] <qin_> twoeed: Really?
[05:24] <falkenMaze> my computer boots and get to this point and freezes  http://i43.tinypic.com/df7xqe.png  fsck -f says the partition is fine, and I can chroot to the OS from a live cd, just can't boot.
[05:24] <twoeed> It was just the host thing.
[05:25] <twoeed> Thanks for all the help.
[05:26] <falkenMaze> mastershake first try kill -9 pid . if that fails, find the start command via ps and then grep -lir "command" / to find the file relaunching it.
[05:26] <twoeed> Now I've just got to finish editing the rest of that config file.
[05:26] <twoeed> securing my server and such.
[05:27] <twoeed> I took down so much firewall stuff troubleshooting this.
[05:27] <tomas_> My X don't start
[05:28] <tomas_> Somebody can help me?
[05:28] <twoeed> qin_: Just for reference, what is this "spoofing" about?
[05:29] <tomas_> Hello?
[05:29] <falkenMaze> twoeed becoming the secure person in a secure comm channel via a hacked id. like a mac address
[05:30] <ItsMeLenny> does X have its own default theme in case the desktop environment has no theme?
[05:30] <aeon-ltd> ItsMeLenny: yes
[05:31] <ItsMeLenny> do you know how i can get it?
[05:31] <falkenMaze> ItsMeLenny windows uses the blue screen of death.
[05:31] <ItsMeLenny> and how i can uninstall every other theme
[05:31] <ItsMeLenny> falkenMaze, lol
[05:31] <twoeed> falkenMaze: Ok.  It just hides IPs, instead of showing them to everyone like on this channel?
[05:31] <aeon-ltd> ItsMeLenny: you know it looks like crap right?
[05:31] <qin_> twoeed: it do not sound like anything good.
[05:32] <falkenMaze> twoeed I either pop out an id from you or force you to learn mine. Then I am authenticated.
[05:32] <aeon-ltd> ItsMeLenny: http://boundarydevices.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/spaceballs-1024x576.png like this but ignore the windows and panel
[05:32] <tomas_> I look regenerate xorg.conf
[05:33] <tomas_> My file /etc/X11/xorg.conf is wrong
[05:33] <qin_> falkenMaze: spoofing is not really cloaking
[05:33] <ItsMeLenny> aeon-ltd, looks good
[05:33] <falkenMaze> twoeed ip spoofing it tricking the router dhcp
[05:33] <aeon-ltd> ItsMeLenny: ok well it's on every system that has X installed you just need to select it or don't configure anything
[05:33] <falkenMaze> qin_ it's just gaining a secure communications channel.
[05:34] <twoeed> falkenMaze: ah
[05:34] <ItsMeLenny> aeon-ltd, thanks, i think ive got it
[05:35] <ping> Multisystem won't recognize USB, have tried to of them, shows up in the device window, but when click confirm won't accept it, nautilus is installed
[05:35] <qin_> falkenMaze: no, it is man it the middle form of attack, and also mirroring method for servers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARP_spoofing
[05:35] <ItsMeLenny> aeon-ltd, except the colours seem to go to what the last theme had as it's main colours, is there a default set of colours?
[05:35] <ping> to of them= two of them
[05:36] <ItsMeLenny> aeon-ltd, for example if my last theme was ambiance all the buttons highlight as orange, where as if my last theme was oxygen my buttons highlight as blue (with an orange border for some reason)
[05:36] <SuperLag> You can't unplug an unmounted SATA drive while the system is still booted, can you? (and not have issues)
[05:36] <falkenMaze> qin_ thats an ssl spoof, and you are gaining access to the ssl communications channel
[05:36] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, sure you can as long as it isn't the boot drive
[05:37] <aeon-ltd> ItsMeLenny: not sure on that, sounds like a bug
[05:37] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, i'd make sure to unmount any partition on the drive that is mounted though
[05:37] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: and then plug in another SATA drive, and it'll just work?
[05:37] <PepperoniPizza> or risk data corruption
[05:37] <ItsMeLenny> aeon-ltd, ah ok, no problems, although here is a massive problem, all my icons have gone to a generic page shape
[05:37] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, yes, they even make hotswap bays for SATA drives
[05:37] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: unplugging my hard drive where my VMs reside, and plugging the optical drive back in.
[05:37] <ItsMeLenny> aeon-ltd, oh, fixed it >_< thanks for the help!! :)
[05:38] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, sure you could do that
[05:38] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: right, but I don't think this is a hotswap bay. It's a ThinkPad W530 :)
[05:38] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, I am a bit OCD my self about fooling with electronics while they are live with electricity though
[05:38] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: yeah.... good point
[05:38] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, so it is a laptop ?
[05:38] <aeon-ltd> ItsMeLenny: no problem, i didn't really do much though :)
[05:38] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: yes
[05:39] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, so then, it only has one spot for an SATA hard drive, yes ?
[05:39] <ItsMeLenny> aeon-ltd, lol, you may not think so but you actually did :P
[05:40] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: I have 3 SATA drives in this thing. One where the drive normally goes. One where the optical normally goes, and an mSATA drive where you can also plug in a WWAN card. 1.1TB of usable space. 32GB of RAM, as well. :)
[05:40] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, wow my desktop only has 16gb lol
[05:40] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, yea, as long as the drive you are removing isn't being used / mounted it should be fine
[05:41] <PepperoniPizza> SATA is 100% hot swappable
[05:41] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: / is on the primary SATA, ~ is on the mSATA, and VMs are on the third drive, which is mounted to ~/Documents/vmware/
[05:41] <PepperoniPizza> yea just unmount it first then
[05:43] <SuperLag> wow
[05:44] <Arobaz> yeah
[05:44] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: the sky did not fall down
[05:44] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: dmesg did not show the system freaking out, either
[05:44] <SuperLag> and the CD works
[05:44] <PepperoniPizza> of course
[05:44] <PepperoniPizza> ;-)
[05:44] <SuperLag> not that I'd make a *habit* of hot-plugging and unplugging stuff
[05:44] <PepperoniPizza> yea, I'm not a fan of it
[05:45] <SuperLag> because I'm similarly OCD that way... but I didn't want to reboot at this point
[05:45] <PepperoniPizza> it is fine in theory though
[05:46] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, after you have done electrical work and blown chunks out of a metal screw driver you become more cautious about always unplugging power / discharging stuff ;-)
[05:46] <Kuroshita> is it possible to get 3d rendered games like tf2 working on ubuntu with the amd open source drivers?
[05:47] <aeon-ltd> Kuroshita: is there a reason you can't just switch drivers to play games?
[05:47] <Kuroshita> Nope, it's purely due to ease of management
[05:48] <hillary> my cdrom cannot read cd/dvd ubuntu 12.04
[05:48] <hillary> it stopped last week
[05:48] <aeon-ltd> hillary: does it work in other OSes?
[05:48] <hillary> yes
[05:48] <Kuroshita> You're going to want to ask a question hillary
[05:49] <hillary> i mean it used to read but it just stopped reading
[05:49] <makara> for xchat I have to provide the sound files it seems. Where can I find a library of appropriate sounds?
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> makara, You might like #xchat
[05:51] <karlmh> downloaded the iso image and its 766 mb, i'm using ubuntu now but it looks like the app i have doesnt want to overburn
[05:51] <aeon-ltd> karlmh: yeah it doesn't fit on cd
[05:52] <makara> wilee-nilee, thx
[05:52] <PepperoniPizza> karlmh, do you have a usb drive ?
[05:52] <Johnny_Linux> put it on a thumb drive
[05:53] <aeon-ltd> it'd be awesome if you could load the iso + bootloader into ram then reboot immediately into a linux enviro; too bad there are too many security risks
[05:53] <hillary> aeon-ltd yes it work in other oses
[05:53] <demiugr> Пацаны, я у вас поинтересуюсь? На винде был нормальный как бы скользящий тачпад synaptics, короче такой курсор как бы скользил по экрану. Поставил ubuntu - вроде ничего, но тачпад - параша! С каких настроек спрос взять? Где их сыскать? Может нада какое
[05:54] <aeon-ltd> !russian
[05:54] <cfhowlett> aeon-ltd, is THAT what it is?
[05:54] <aeon-ltd> cfhowlett: what?
[05:54] <aeon-ltd> is it ukrainian?
[05:54] <utfans05> maybe russian?
[05:55] <utfans05> looks kinda russian...
[05:55] <cfhowlett> aeon-ltd, I only see random glyphs so can't make out any kind of language ...
[05:55] <demiugr> Фигня выходит, пацанчики
[05:55] <demiugr> #ubuntu-ru Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[05:55] <hillary> is it hardware issue or a command interfearance by myself?
[05:55] <utfans05> nvm hes paskanstani
[05:55] <aeon-ltd> heh how are we going to do the register factoid in russian but in the english channel?
[05:56] <utfans05> Guys, I take an interest in you? On Windows as it was a normal sliding touchpad synaptics, shorter than a mouse as it slid across the screen. Put ubuntu - like anything, but the touchpad - stool! Since when setting demand to take? Where to find them? What can nada
[05:56] <demiugr> Кароче к нашим петушкам не попасть
[05:56] <utfans05> that was his original question
[05:56] <demiugr> гудбай товарищи буржуи
[05:56] <utfans05> adios
[05:57] <spyder> what pkg or method is used in ubuntu for bash completion?
[05:57] <utfans05> spyder: it should be there by default
[05:58] <aeon-ltd> hillary: i have no idea except watch 'dmesg' when you insert a cd
[05:58] <aeon-ltd> though i'm not even sure if dmesg works that way
[05:58] <spyder> utfans05: i am on another distro in another system and i want to use same bash completion in it
[05:59] <hillary> The cd is rotating and the light is flickering but not output
[05:59] <utfans05> spyder: which os?
[05:59] <spyder> utfans05: gentoo
[06:00] <utfans05> spyder: you may want to ask in the gentoo channel.
[06:00] <utfans05> #gentoo
[06:00] <karlmh> PepperoniPizza: looks like using cdrskin with -dao -force might just work ;)
[06:00] <karlmh> overburnning is actually pretty common
[06:00] <PepperoniPizza> karlmh, yea, it doesn't always work though
[06:01] <guest_____> whats analogs http://cfos.de having in ubuntu?(most usuable gui traffic control and shaping)
[06:01] <spyder> utfans05: i know that i asked there and tried the suggestiond but did not get the completion where even second command in chain can be tab completed
[06:01] <spyder> eg torsocks midori
[06:01] <cristian_c> Hi
[06:01] <spyder> and midori can be tab completed
[06:01] <utfans05> spyder: hold on one sec, imma ask my friend who is really good at gentoo
[06:02] <cristian_c> I can't hear sound form speakers/headphone anymore
[06:02] <cristian_c> 12.04 precise
[06:02] <spyder> utfans05: ok
[06:02] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[06:03] <guest_____> whats analogs http://cfos.de having in ubuntu?(most usuable gui traffic control and shaping)
[06:03] <utfans05> spyder: just sent him your question. give him a few, hes messing around with some python scripting so it may be a few minutes.
[06:03] <spyder> utfans05: thanks
[06:03] <utfans05> guest_____: i dont understand what you're looking for.
[06:04] <guest_____> whats analog http://cfos.de exists in ubuntu?(most usuable gui traffic control and shaping)
[06:05] <utfans05> guest_____: i dont quite understand what your looking for. can you give us more details?
[06:05] <utfans05> are you looking for a graphical display of your network traffic? if so try conky
[06:06] <guest_____> go to this website please, i,m find alternative for linux
[06:06] <karlmh> bbl
[06:06] <guest_____> http://cfos.de
[06:07] <utfans05> i looked at it and it looks like you're looking for a graphical network traffic tool
[06:07] <utfans05> well... not really;.
[06:07] <guest_____> yes
[06:07] <utfans05> ok so your looking for graphical traffic display and not traffic shaping tool?
[06:08] <utfans05> spyder: try bash-completing
[06:08] <utfans05> spyder: try bash-completion
[06:10] <guest_____> utfans, thank you, i think it(traffic control and shaping) no exesist in gui, thanks for conky
[06:10] <guest_____> no exists fo linux
[06:11] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: excellent. Worked like a charm.
[06:11] <utfans05> guest_____: yeah im unsure if you can do traffic shaping in linux. id have to do some research but conky is really customizable and you can do a ton of monitoring with it.
[06:11] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: so... sound stuff. Is there a way to return the sound settings in Xubuntu to the defaults that were there on install?
[06:11] <utfans05> cpu, ram, swap, temps, network traffic. almost anything you want
[06:11] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, what do you mean exactly
[06:12] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: what source is used where, default volume levels... stuff like that
[06:12] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: experienced something tonight, and foolishly went monkeying with multiple settings at once
[06:13] <spyder> utfans05: ty
[06:13] <SuperLag> things still work... but I want to make sure everything is put back how it was
[06:13] <utfans05> spyder: your welcom
[06:13] <coolstar> where can I get arm-elf-gcc for ubuntu?
[06:14] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, well you can use pavucontrol or alsamixer
[06:14] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: alsamixer is what I used to adjust, so I'm familiar with it... but I'm not sure what all the defaults were
[06:14] <hillary> what command do i use to mount cd in ubuntu 12.04
[06:15] <SuperLag> hillary: mount
[06:15] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, well if everything works
[06:15] <SuperLag> hillary: ironically enough :)
[06:16] <hillary>  SuperLag am lost!
[06:17] <utfans05> hillary: sudo mount /dev/sr0 /cdrom
[06:17] <shutup> ?
[06:18] <utfans05> where sr0 is your cdrom
[06:18] <SuperLag> hillary: I'd be very surprised if it didn't automatically mount
[06:24] <afflicto> Is there a place/app to find extensions/plugins for Unity ? Like gnome-extensions. I'd like to have weather info at the top panel and maybe memory usage etc.
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> afflicto: you mean like indicators?
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> !info indicator-multiload | afflicto
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> afflicto: apt-cache search indicator (from terminal) for more cool indicators
[06:29] <utfans05> spyder: did that work out for you?
[06:33] <afflicto> Cool, thanks guys.
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> afflicto: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/list-of-22-application-indicators-for.html
[06:34] <DarkFox> How exactly is wubi working? Anyone here worked on it's source code? — It would seem to be an altered mbr for one.
[06:35] <DarkFox> ( I know it's not supported anymore but I'm not asking here for ubuntu support but rather loopback booting support )
[06:35] <utfans05> DarkFox: from what i understand wubi has been discontinued.
[06:35] <DarkFox> virtual hard disk
[06:35] <mumpitze1> wubi needs altered bootloader, linux initrd and a big file instead of a partition for ubuntu
[06:36] <DarkFox> utfans05: Indeed but support should still be there for the concepts behind it
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> !wubi | Darkfox
[06:36] <DarkFox> Incompatible with UEFI my arse, it would work if someone applied the time.
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> !language | DarkFox
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> Darkfox: check this link for other ways then wubi: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[06:38] <spyder> utfans05: did not work i think i have to re-login for it to work let me check
[06:39] <DarkFox> mumpitze1: I am aware it does this. However, I'm trying to copy the concept for archlinux with an encrypted partition for the root and ... C:\archlinux\disks\{archlinux.vhd,swap.img}. Very similar case as with wubi's C:\ubuntu\disks\{root,swap}.img and instead of using the linux kernel on the root partition it's on it's /boot as a part of the partitioned virtual disk.
[06:39] <spyder> utfans05: did not work
[06:40] <DarkFox> lotuspsychje: What I want (and kinda need) is to boot arch from a virtual hard disk. This concept for booting a loopback disk is heavily similar to how wubi is working. I'm just using one disk for two partitions.
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> DarkFox: this is an ubuntu support channel mate
[06:41] <DarkFox> losetup -f archlinux.vhd; partx /dev/loop0 and I've got access for each partition.
[06:41] <DarkFox> lotuspsychje: I'm not asking for ubuntu nor arch support. I am asking for wubi concept
[06:41] <DarkFox> Down to the level of using it for my arch.vhd
[06:41] <wheatthin> lol
[06:41] <DarkFox> And I'll be sharing the minimal concept so anyone can do this
[06:41] <Jordan_U> DarkFox: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[06:42] <spyder> utfans05: it works for some things but not all
[06:42] <DarkFox> Jordan_U: Wubi is ubuntu
[06:42] <utfans05> what extra stuff are you looking for?
[06:42] <wheatthin> not it's conceptual interpretation, it isn't
[06:42] <DarkFox> wubi may be discontinued but there has to be someone who I can talk to for it
[06:42] <Jordan_U> DarkFox: But you're not asking for Wubi support.
[06:42] <Jordan_U> DarkFox: Try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[06:43] <DarkFox> Jordan_U: I am asking for wubi support. Although talking to it's developers would be far more useful
[06:43] <wheatthin> !ails
[06:44] <wheatthin> hmm must have gotten it wrong
[06:44] <Jordan_U> DarkFox: You are not asking for Wubi support, and the general consenses for Wubi support in this channel has always been pretty much "Don't use Wubi", even before it was discontinued. Try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[06:44] <DarkFox> This is a support channel, sure it may be targeted for ubuntu as of current. But no general linux support with the tools that you offer?
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> !factoids > wheatthin
[06:45] <Jordan_U> DarkFox: This is your last warning, please stop the offtopic discussion.
[06:45] <DarkFox> Jordan_U: "Don't use wubi" I'm not trying to use it, I have it working for ubuntu. Just trying to port to other systems
[06:45] <DarkFox> fine
[06:45] <DartSmjkfuE> hi all
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> DartSmjkfuE: hey mate, what can we do for you?
[06:47] <LongCatTH> free coupon for codeschool, first come first serve :) http://go.codeschool.com/yp6ONw
[06:48] <Nmbr1> DarkFox: i as well would suggest not using wubi, but if you feel the need send me a pm and i'll see if i can help
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: LongCatTH has been pasting urls like this for few days
[06:48] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: Thanks for the heads up.
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: np
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> is it possible to completly hide a user from /home and useraccounts?
[06:51] <Nmbr1> lotuspsychje: do you also want it hidden from "users"?
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> Nmbr1: if its possible yes, or if there's a way to hide useraccounts for other users then root
[06:53] <SwedeMike> lotuspsychje: look into grsec and alike ,it'll hide user processes etc from other users
[06:54] <SwedeMike> lotuspsychje: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/selinux-vs-apparmor-vs-grsecurity.html
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> SwedeMike: tnx, will that hide the /home/someuser too?
[06:55] <SwedeMike> lotuspsychje: I don't know the detail, I believe you can hide everything outside the user dir, but I'm not sure. you have to look it up.
[06:55] <lizg> is it possible to redir /home and /usr  with other partitions?
[06:56] <mumpitze1> lizg: yes
[06:57] <SuperLag> lizg: thankfully, yes :)
[06:57] <SuperLag> lizg: it's how I've kept my ~ intact over multiple Linux installs
[06:57] <lizg> can you teach me how to do?
[06:57] <vnwildman> lizg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[06:58] <SuperLag> lizg: what vnwildman said ^^^
[06:58] <lizg> thank you
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> !info sux | Nmbr1
[07:00] <Nmbr1> lotuspsychje: thx
[07:01] <BlackFlag> Hey! Does someone knows if "dumpes2fs" works with partition reiserfs?
[07:02] <SwedeMike> BlackFlag: no.
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> SwedeMike: tnx for info ill look it up :p
[07:03] <vnwildman> BlackFlag: use partclone
[07:03] <BlackFlag> SwedeMike, Thank you!
[07:03] <BlackFlag> vnwildman, Thanks!
[07:04] <BlackFlag> Neither works with swap partition?
[07:04] <Jordan_U> BlackFlag: What is your end goal?
[07:05] <Jordan_U> BlackFlag: Doing bit for bit copies of active filesystems / swap is inherently unreliable.
[07:05] <BlackFlag> I want to see the if it has bad blocks, Jordan_U
[07:06] <Jordan_U> BlackFlag: dumpe2fs is not a tool for finding bad blocks.
[07:07] <SwedeMike> BlackFlag: use the "badblocks" untility.
[07:07] <Jordan_U> BlackFlag: The simplest way to check a drive for bad sectors is to check the S.M.A.R.T data, which you can do via GNOME Disks or smartctl.
[07:08] <SwedeMike> BlackFlag: also what Jordan_U said. apt-get install smartmontools ; smartctl -a /dev/sdwhatever
[07:08] <BlackFlag> Thank you, SwedeMike and Jordan_U
[07:08] <Jordan_U> BlackFlag: You're welcome.
[07:13] <vnwildman> BlackFlag: You can check file system first: reiserfsck --check /dev/sdwhatever
[07:29] <DarwinSurvivor> \q
[07:38] <glowe> Hey all. I have a problem with my usb dongle (mobile internet)! LSUSB finds a huawei usb dongle but it wont connect to internet
[07:39] <coolstar> glowe: sounds like you need drivers
[07:39] <glowe> yea i think so
[07:39] <glowe> The device is Huawei E1750
[07:39] <glowe> Do you know the proper drivers?
[07:40] <coolstar> glowe: Ubuntu should find them automatically if they're on the default repos
[07:40] <coolstar> glowe: plug into Ethernet and have it check
[07:40] <glowe> im on wifi now
[07:41] <varunendra> glowe, is it a 3g modem?
[07:41] <glowe> what should i do? Im new to this
[07:41] <glowe> yea
[07:41] <glowe> it is
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> glowe: i think huawei devices should be recognized automaticly
[07:42] <varunendra> glowe, please show us the lsusb output line pertaining to it.
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> glowe: did you activate the sim card inside?
[07:42] <Jordan_U> glowe: How did you try to connect using the 3G modem?
[07:42] <TREE1> HI FREND IN MY UBUNTU WIRED CONNECTION DOESNOT ALLOW WEB BROWSING TORRENT IS ONLY WORKING ANY IDEA??
[07:43] <glowe> with the set up a new connection buttom
[07:43] <glowe> Cant see my device in the list and when i enter it manually it wont connect
[07:43] <sm0x> hey guys, is in the actual daily-build of saucy "Mir" already included ?
[07:43] <glowe> Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E1552/E1800/E173 (HSPA modem)
[07:43] <glowe> Thats what lsusb gives
[07:43] <Jordan_U> TREE1: Drop the caps lock please.
[07:44] <TREE1> ok
[07:44] <Jordan_U> sm0x: #ubuntu+1 for Saucy.
[07:44] <varunendra> glowe, the full line (it should show a pair of four digit number like [abcd:pqrs])
[07:44] <glowe> Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E1552/E1800/E173 (HSPA modem)
[07:44] <glowe> oh
[07:44] <sm0x> Jordan_U: thx
[07:44] <glowe> sorry
[07:44] <glowe> sec
[07:44] <FloodBot1> glowe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:45] <Jordan_U> sm0x: You're welcome.
[07:45] <Akuma> hello, I installed ubuntu server 13.04 and then installed the ubuntu-desktop on top of it. Now I'm having an issue where the network manager (icon on top next to the volume) doesn't seem to recognize there is a network connection
[07:45] <superdo> hi
[07:45] <Akuma> when I click on it it says "Ethernet  Network device not managed"
[07:45] <Jordan_U> glowe: What list are you looking at? How are you "entering it manually"?
[07:45] <TREE1> hi can any body help me out in finding network connection problem wired connection doesnt allow web browsing torrent is only working
[07:46] <Akuma> my network works fine  though, ifconfig shows my device
[07:46] <bazhang> !repeat | TREE1
[07:46] <superdo> articles suggest setting umask to 0002 for apache , in login.defs are now 022. can I overwrite this?
[07:46] <ItsMeLenny> you know how when a program is fullscreen, the menu goes into the top bar
[07:46] <Jordan_U> Akuma: Make sure that any interfaces that you want managed by network-managers are not configured in /etc/network/interfaces .
[07:47] <glowe> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 12d1:1446 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E1552/E1800/E173 (HSPA modem)
[07:47] <varunendra> TREE1, if the torrent is working on the same connection, then check your browser settings, try setting the DNS to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 etc. May be stop the torrent as it may be using up all the bandwidth.
[07:47] <Akuma> Jordan_U: do I comment all the lines out if there are entries?
[07:48] <Akuma> Jordan_U: eth0 is in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:48] <TREE1> ok
[07:48] <Jordan_U> Akuma: Just comment out ethX and wlanX entries, leave any lo entry.
[07:48] <glowe> Jordan_U I go to the wifi symbol on the right and then add a new connection and choose mobile broadband
 but this problem does not occur in wireless
[07:49] <Akuma> Jordan_U: do I need to restart the network manager service  ? (how do would I do that?)
[07:49] <Jordan_U> Akuma: I don't know.
[07:50] <varunendra> glowe, that device is not supported here on my 12.04. Does "modinfo option | grep 1446" return any output on yours?
[07:50] <Akuma> I'll try restarting the box. Thanks for the help. Greatly appreciated
[07:51] <glowe> varunendra Nothing happens. im on 13.04 right now
[07:53] <varunendra> glowe, it means that modem is not natively supported by the driver "option" that is used for these devices. You may try to 'Force' bind your device with it though. One of the few possible methods is this post (#11) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1969322&p=11899627#post11899627
[07:54] <glowe> brb
[07:56] <glowe> back again
[08:03] <energizer1> My computer just went to black screen with ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ in the top left corner, and wont respond to anything within ctrl+alt+F7 mode
[08:03] <Jordan_U> energizer1: Are you running an ssh server on this machine?
[08:03] <energizer1> ya, but i dont think anything's accessing it atm
[08:04] <Jordan_U> energizer1: Can you log in from another machine and try to look at logs or at least reboot cleanly?
[08:05] <energizer1> i can use ctrl+alt+f1 for a command line if that works also?
[08:05] <energizer1> which log would i want to look at
[08:06] <glowe> Hey again
[08:06] <glowe> i did now try to bind it but with no success
[08:06] <energizer1> Jordan_U: im in tty1-- where should i navigate to
[08:06] <Jordan_U> energizer1: /var/log/Xorg.0.log for one. You can also completely restart X with "sudo service lightdm restart".
[08:07] <energizer1> Jordan_U what am i looking for in Xorg.0
[08:08] <energizer1> (first off, is the top or bottom most recent?)
[08:08] <Jordan_U> energizer1: Lines starting with EE: are error messages, the bottom is most recent (error messages are always appended to the end of log files).
[08:08]  * wheatthin will brb
[08:10] <energizer1> Jordan_U will it be helpful for me to copy the last 20 lines or so?
[08:11] <Jordan_U> energizer1: You could post them via a link with http://pastebin.ubuntu.com , yes.
[08:11] <glowe> Seems like im stuck on the same problem
[08:15] <glowe> Jordan_U
[08:15] <energizer> Jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/5873459/
[08:15] <glowe> Are you there? When i try to set up the connection on network manager i cant select my usb dongle which indicate that it isnt recognized?
[08:15] <glowe> Will modprobe usbserial vendor=0x1c9e product=0x9605 do any good?
[08:18] <lordgod> hello
[08:18] <varunendra> glowe, that's worth trying. You may also try your luck on usb_modeswitch forums : http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1336
[08:19] <Jordan_U> energizer: It doesn't look like any signifigant errors were logged. Have you tried just ctlrl+alt+F8 or F9 ?
[08:19] <varunendra> glowe, by the way, your ID isn't same though as that example you posted above
[08:20] <moses> ok i have a problem
[08:21] <diverdude> Hello, what does it actually mean if i append this line:      -      rtprio      99    To   /etc/security/limits.conf ?
[08:21] <varunendra> glowe, vendor id with 12d1, and product id with 1446 in the modprobe usb_serial command.
[08:21] <energizer> Jordan_U i restarted lightdm as you suggested and everything works now, but id like to get a handle on what just happened. C.A.F8 just brings blinking underscore.
[08:21] <glowe> yea
[08:21] <glowe> tried and replugged the usb modem but with no success
[08:21] <glowe> Still cant select it on the netowork manager
[08:21] <moses> I have this directory that I want to let all users read write and execute, I want every file created in this directory to have these permissions for all personell that use this directory weather to run a program, anything.  Is this possible?
[08:22] <Jordan_U> energizer: Did you try ctrl+alt+F8 before restarting lightdm?
[08:23] <energizer> too late
[08:23] <varunendra> glowe, tried the modprobe command AFTER plugging in? Unload the usb_serial driver first : sudo modprobe -rfv usb_serial
[08:24] <friluftsfan> #NUUG
[08:27] <glowe> I did the command with the usb plugged
[08:27] <glowe> mathias@ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe -rfv usb_serial
[08:27] <glowe> [sudo] password for mathias:
[08:27] <glowe> FATAL: Module usb_serial not found.
[08:31] <varunendra> glowe, sorry, that was "usbserial"
[08:34] <lordgod> hello
[08:35] <glowe> I need to go now but thanks everyone for your help!
[08:46] <ns7> Where are the pgp keys stored in ubuntu?
[08:47] <Phosphate> q
[08:50] <coolstar> ns7: check ~/.gpg
[08:52] <ns7> ty
[08:55] <fzguh> hello I've got some problems updating my Applications it claims that it dosen't find some pages (404) has any one an idea?
[09:03] <mac-> hey
[09:03] <mac-> what is the current state of ubuntu for smartphones ?
[09:16] <stack3457>  how can I upgrade akonadi and kdepimlibs from 4.10 version to 4.11 ?.I am using kubuntu 12.04
[09:18] <diverdude> if i do this: /sbin/ifconfig  eth0 mtu 8192  i change mtu, but as soon the system is restarted this mtu change is reset to default. How do i enable this so its persistent?
[09:19] <honvai> What do I have to do that you will give me gains root access to your device?
[09:20] <mac-> strange silnce in here ...
[09:21] <mac-> I would expect crowded channel because its about the most popular Linux in the world
[09:21] <mac-> even my mom uses Ubuntu
[09:21] <bekks> diverdude: An MTU of 8192 is -- non.default. Do you have a specific reason for not using the default jumbo packet size of 9000?
[09:22] <holywood> #help
[09:22] <bekks> !details | holywood
[09:23] <holywood> sorry/ it's typo
[09:23] <diverdude> bekks, i think default is 1500 actually
[09:23] <holywood> i should have typed the slash. :)
[09:24] <decaf> hi. I can't suspend or hibernate my system. I've had this problem before. suspending process actually works but at the end it can't give motherboard the right order
[09:24] <decaf> restarts instead of powering off
[09:25] <stack3457>  how can I upgrade 4.10 kde version to 4.10 in kubuntu 12.04??
[09:28] <decaf> stack3457: I don't get it. please check 'versions' in your sentence
[09:33] <Sarcastic> I'm having some difficulties with setting screen resolution with xorg.conf
[09:34] <Sarcastic> Can anyone see why my screen resolution isn't changing: http://pastebin.com/ZvRyCRj8
[09:41] <Sarcastic_> Can anyone see anything wrong in this? http://pastebin.com/ZvRyCRj8
[10:00] <xormor> my xubuntu is working well.
[10:00] <Joschii> Hosianna!
[10:00] <xormor> Linux laptoppi-HP-G62-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:46:08 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[10:00] <xormor> Hosianna Son of David, holy be His name.
[10:01] <xormor> Joschii: it's not Christmas, it is summer.
[10:01] <cfhowlett> !ot
[10:08] <SaxX> hi all
[10:09] <cfhowlett> SaxX, greetings
[10:09] <SaxX> anybody knows how to solve /dev/vide0 is busy
[10:09] <SaxX> hi cfhowlett
[10:10] <cfhowlett> SaxX, sorry, I can't help with that one
[10:11] <SaxX> don't worry cfhowlett :)
[10:13] <kgalahassa> hi, how to reduce luminosity completely and keep it like that each time, even at booting,   on ubuntu 12.10
[10:19] <kgalahassa> hi, how to reduce luminosity completely and keep it like that each time, even at booting,   on ubuntu 12.10
[10:20] <varunendra> kgalahassa, you mean screen brightness?
[10:25] <kgalahassa> varunendra, yes
[10:26] <varunendra> kgalahassa, I have added this line to my "/etc/rc.local" file (without quotes) : "echo 0 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness"
[10:26] <varunendra> the device "acpi_video0/" and the value "0" may differ in your case.
[10:27] <kgalahassa> oky, varunendra, let me a minute i will try too
[10:28] <varunendra> kgalahassa, if you try this, make sure the "rc.local" file ends with "exit 0" line. That means, insert your line above it.
[10:28] <kgalahassa> oky varunendra
[10:28] <mm122> hi all
[10:28] <mm122> first time iam using ubuntu.,,where do i repository
[10:29] <varunendra> mm122, are you trying to install an application?
[10:29] <mm122> yeh
[10:29] <varunendra> are you connected to internet?
[10:30] <varunendra> apparently not ;)
[10:30] <SaxX> :)
[10:34] <sneex> I would like to talk about and troubleshoot Citrix XenApp remote desktop -- My Citrix Remote desktop is timing before I can finish connecting -- what settings control that?
[10:34] <sneex> timing out
[10:34] <ikonia> sneex what is the package name that contains this client ?
[10:35] <kgalahassa> varunendra, i've down it, but i'm doing something on my computer, after restarting, i will let a msg to informe u.thks
[10:35] <varunendra> np :)
[10:37] <sneex> ikonia: There isn't an official one but Ubuntu discusses it in too much generality  the Citrix name is  CitrixReceiverWeb
[10:37] <ikonia> sneex so where did you get it from if there isn a package
[10:39] <sneex> I got it from Citrix based upon finding that there was a Untuntu version (based on Ubuntu forums) -- I would like to extend those discussion or ask that Unbuntu stop discribing thing they really dont want to support -- it is aggravting to me and hurts others
[10:40] <ikonia> sneex what???
[10:40] <ikonia> sneex: are you using an ubuntu package yes/no ?
[10:41] <sneex> ikonia: that answer is no BUT I went down this path because I saw Unbuntu talking about it in the forum - hence I am here to further discuss it
[10:41] <ikonia> sneex: someone talking about it on ubuntu doesn't make it anything to do with ubuntu
[10:41] <ikonia> sneex: you're best bet is to try the cytrix channels/forums or use the cytrix support services
[10:42] <sneex> yes, unfortunately that I understand -- one of the draw backs of Linux in general
[10:42] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with linux
[10:42] <Guest91591> sneex: do you complain to your butcher when your bread is stale?
[10:43] <ikonia> you're using a product provided by a comercial vendor, the obvious support choice would be the comercial vendor that makes that package, no matter what OS it's on
[10:43] <sneex> It is in that developers can't actually write Linux apps -- but thx any ways; I will muddle along
[10:43] <ikonia> sneex: there are many linux apps - please stop trying to be rude about things, you've chosen a comercial product with comercial support,
[10:44] <ikonia> that is your choice.
[10:44] <CC12> hey all
[10:44] <Guest91591> hello CC12
[10:44] <CC12> is ubuntu better then windows 8?
[10:44] <CC12> hello Guest91591
[10:44] <ikonia> CC12: it comes down to personal choice, only you can make up your mind
[10:44] <ikonia> CC12: you'll need to do a little bit of research on both to see which looks like it meets your needs best
[10:44] <CC12> iam worried if i install ubuntu it might erase my data
[10:44] <Guest91591> CC12: depends on what you want to use it for and your personal preferences. For me: hell yes.
[10:45] <ikonia> CC12: there is a risk if you make a mistake at install time it can cause data loss
[10:45] <ikonia> CC12: if you want to install it, go slow, read the on screen information and if anything is unclear, ask in the support resources, here/forum/mail lists etc
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> CC12: if you like safety and stability, ubuntu would make a great choice
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> CC12  try a live session, first, to get familiar with it
[10:45] <ikonia> windows 8 is no more/less supported/stable/secure
[10:46] <ikonia> I'd advise you to check your hardware for compatability with linux too
[10:46] <CC12> ive got 2 drives one ssd 256 corsair...and one 1.5 terra i want to install it on 1.5 terra
[10:46] <ikonia> CC12: that's fine, that's doable
[10:46] <CC12> yeah is my graphics card compatible
[10:46] <ikonia> you'll need to resarch that
[10:46] <CC12> ive got a gigabyte 7970 ultra durable
[10:46] <CC12> 3gb
[10:47] <ikonia> you'll need to resarch that
[10:47] <CC12> ill think ill back up  everthing just in case
[10:47] <ikonia> a wise move
[10:48] <CC12> how long does it take to install
[10:48] <ikonia> depends on a few things
[10:49] <CC12> is there a skype on ubuntu
[10:49] <ikonia> about the same time as a windows install (use that as your benchmark)
[10:49] <ikonia> CC12: yes, skype is availabe
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> CC12  15 minutes or so, but first try a live cd or usb
[10:49] <ikonia> available even
[10:49] <CC12> wow nice
[10:49] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: he's on a livecd  now
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> o
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> k
[10:49] <CC12> yeah iam on live cd right nowe
[10:51] <CC12> wow love the desktop background choices
[10:51] <afflicto> I'm using gnome shell. What's the panel at the bottom called?
[10:52] <ikonia> afflicto: there isn't one
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> CC12: im using ubuntu 13.04 64bit on an ssd and it goes rocketfast
[10:52] <CC12> wow its even got workspaces unreal very nice MonkeyDust
[10:52] <ikonia> afflicto: the dock has been removed
[10:55] <CC12> hmm this is fast wow
[10:56] <CC12> can i use any other browser part from firefox?
[10:57] <ikonia> CC12: there are others available, yes
[10:57] <CC12> how good is the firewall on ubuntu
[10:57] <ikonia> excellent
[10:57] <CC12> do i need any antivirus programs
[10:57] <ikonia> no
[10:57] <JasMay> #irchelp
[10:58] <CC12> no??
[10:58] <ikonia> correct, no
[10:58] <CC12> why is that.
[10:58] <ikonia> the OS works different
[10:58] <CC12> i paid like top dollars for windows 8 lol
[10:58] <sneex> CC12: viruses in Ubuntu is some what different than Windows
[10:58] <kimir> I'm using GNOME with ubuntu 13.04. I want close, minimize and maximize buttons on left side of screen. in gconf editor (org/gnome/desktop/wm/preferences) i set button-layout to close,minimize,maximize: but it has no effect: all I have is close button and on right side. How can I fix that?
[10:59] <ikonia> CC12: windows 8 has microsoft security essentials for free - so not sure why you paid for anything
[10:59] <CC12> nah didnt like that one
[10:59] <wzooff> hi. i have trouble with cups. in web interface i see dublicates of all elements
[11:01] <nibbler_> kimir: instead of minimize you can middle-click the top-bar to send it to background
[11:01] <kimir> nibbler_: there is no middle click on laptop :)
[11:02] <nibbler_> kimir: simoultanious left+right
[11:03] <kimir> nibbler_: Doesn't work. my touchpad is weird, won't let me hit both buttons (they are actually one button)
[11:03] <varunendra> kimir, gconf editor? Those settings have been moved over to "dconf editor"
[11:03] <CC12> cool thanks if i need anything ill be back
[11:03] <kimir> Yeah its dconf** varunendra
[11:05] <varunendra> kimir, you may have to log out --> log in again for the settings to take effect.
[11:05] <AfyonAhmet> selamm
[11:07] <kimir> relogging doesn't help
[11:08] <quazimodo> ubuntu installed a driver for my Alsp dualpoint stick, I'm trying to find the actual driver. Any one know where it'll be?
[11:09] <ikonia> quazimodo: how did it install it, was it a kernel module or an X11 driver ?
[11:09] <quazimodo> ikonia: I'm not certain, that's why I'm lost a bit
[11:09] <ikonia> quazimodo: how did you install it ?
[11:09] <quazimodo> ikonia: installed by default
[11:09] <quazimodo> ubuntud id it
[11:09] <ikonia> quazimodo: what do you mean installed by default
[11:10] <ikonia> quazimodo: ubuntu doesn't just install drivers....
[11:10] <varunendra> kimir, I'm using Unity, and the preferences location and the sequence you tried is correct for that though. Perhaps the settings for Gnome 3 (??) are stored somewhere else.. can't say as I've never used it.
[11:10] <ikonia> quazimodo: do you mean it was part of the default install ?
[11:10] <quazimodo> yup
[11:10] <ikonia> quazimodo: why does it's location matter, what are you trying to do ?
[11:10] <ikonia> it may help explain if it's a kernel or Xorg driver you're looking for
[11:11] <quazimodo> ikonia: exactly... and I'm trying to figure that out but I don't actually know how to query the device node, and i don't know where else to look tbh
[11:11] <ikonia> quazimodo: what are you trying to do ?
[11:12] <quazimodo> ikonia: i want to modify the behavior of the device slightly, I don't kno whether to do it in userland or in the kernel driver (if it's a kernel driver) but essentially I want to grab the raw input before the driver applies acceleration/deceleration
[11:13] <ikonia> quazimodo: how do you plan to modify this ?
[11:13] <quazimodo> ikonia: don't know yet, I don't know enough yet!
[11:13] <quazimodo> thats why i'm trying to find its driver
[11:13] <ikonia> quazimodo: the location of it's driver is not going to help, as it will either be a kernel module or an Xorg module, which will be a compiled binary
[11:13] <quazimodo> /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input10/device/driver in there i can cat description, it says PS/2 Mouse Driver
[11:14] <ikonia> quazimodo: that's referencing a kernel module
[11:14] <quazimodo> ikonia: so the PS/2 Mouse Driver itself knows how to handle the Alps DualPoint Stick ?
[11:14] <foolcool> Hey guys, what is the best linux ditrobution for performing unattended, automated installations pre-configured to have specific software installed?
[11:14] <ikonia> quazimodo: I suspect that's being used as the input device, and then something like xorg maybe used to map it's function
[11:15] <foolcool> And how hard would it to be to configure the install to mirror the desktop on an external monitor when one is plugged in without any input or configuration from the user whatsoever
[11:15] <ikonia> quazimodo: from a dumb point of view, it's just a pointing control device
[11:15] <quazimodo> ikonia: via evdev?
[11:16] <ikonia> quazimodo: this maybe an interesting read for you, I strongly suggest you don't actually follow this blind, but it's interesting reading http://www.micropctalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=62447
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> foolcool  this channel is foor ubuntu support only, better ask in ##linux or so
[11:16] <varunendra> quazimodo, does the device show up in the output of "xinput" ?
[11:17] <quazimodo> varunendra: yep
[11:17] <zipy> hey ikonia, did u find sth out about gpt and lvm cant be used on whole disk without a partition in it?
[11:17] <varunendra> quazimodo, you can set most of the options with the xinput command itself.
[11:17] <quazimodo> varunendra: I'm getting the impression that the PS/2 Mouse Driver is grabbing the input as a generic pointing device, then something in X is picking it up and identifying it as a DualPoint Stick and going on
[11:18] <quazimodo> varunendra: it doesn't have the capabilities I want, I think
[11:18] <varunendra> quazimodo, so what do you want to do with the driver?
[11:19] <kimir> How can I make a shell script run after returning from suspend (when laptop lid is raised)?
[11:19] <lost_and_unfound> greetings, I am playing with udev rule, I want to copy files from USB to local disk (done) and once completed then open nautilus, however, seems like running the command as root it does not have access to X(unity) to open the display. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this ?
[11:19] <lost_and_unfound> thanks is advance
[11:19] <ikonia> lost_and_unfound: how are you trying to run nautlius as root
[11:20] <kimir> lost_and_unfound: gksudo should let you do it?
[11:20] <lost_and_unfound> ^^ i have also tried with 'su user -c "nautilus"
[11:20] <quazimodo> varunendra: the driver, i was going to read to understand what's going on. then I was going to figure out the next step, stopping X from getting the data, grabbing it with my own program and then registering a new device that gives X the new events
[11:20] <ikonia> lost_and_unfound: you can't do that
[11:20] <lost_and_unfound> pffft...
[11:20] <ikonia> lost_and_unfound: you need to use gksudo as the user you are now
[11:20] <lost_and_unfound> and the gksu suggestion ?
[11:20] <ikonia> what ?
[11:20] <lost_and_unfound> ah.. lemme try didn't think about gksu
[11:20] <lost_and_unfound> ok.. be right back..
[11:20] <kimir> :)
[11:21] <varunendra> kimir, place the script in /etc/pm/sleep.d directory as per norms. Ask here if you don't know the norms.
[11:22] <varunendra> quazimodo, the default ps/2 mouse driver is "psmouse" by the way. You can get information about any driver (its location, available parameters, etc.) with "modinfo <driver name>"
[11:22] <lost_and_unfound> ikonia: kimir: no luck with gksu, can I pastebin you the details ?
[11:22] <ikonia> lost_and_unfound: put it in a pastebin sure
[11:22] <kimir> varunendra: I don't know the norms. Is there a manual?
[11:23] <quazimodo> varunendra: do you think my plan is sound?
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:24] <lost_and_unfound> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/NaTKy4i7
[11:24] <varunendra> quazimodo, tbh, I don't understand most part of your plan at all. lol !
[11:26] <quazimodo> varunendra: the dualpoint stick's acceleration and speed profile sucks, i want to add my own, also soft snap it to x and y lines
[11:26] <quazimodo> make ti easier to use
[11:26] <diverdude> my wifi is veryunstable. i am using a usb wifi dongle (i tried 2 different types) machine is unstable with both.....and both should by linux compliant. wifi is verystable on other computers. Im running ubuntu1204. what is the problem?
[11:26] <varunendra> kimir, not many rules, just make sure the name of the script starts with a number like 20, 40 etc, there should be no blank spaces in its name and only alphanumeric chars, hyphen, underscore is allowed in its name. And of course it should be executable ;)
[11:26] <ikonia> lost_and_unfound: ok, the problem is this is the fact that cron does not have a valid "shell" setup
[11:26] <ikonia> lost_and_unfound: you need to set the X11 enviornment varibles up in your shell script, eg: DISPLAY=, xhost, etc etc.
[11:27] <lost_and_unfound> in the bash scriptitself ?
[11:27] <ikonia> lost_and_unfound: also cron does not have a controlling session on an X11 display, so if you run gksu blah - where is blah going to launch, it's not got a user "logged in" as cron is not a real use, you have to tell it
[11:27] <varunendra> quazimodo, I believe you can control the speed and accl. from the xinput command itself.
[11:27] <ikonia> lost_and_unfound: yes, in the bash script
[11:27] <varunendra> (set props)
[11:31] <Guest69783> when i type:" sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf" ..... then i find:"nameserver 127.0.1.1",and i need to turn to google DNS ... shall i delete nameserver 127.0.0.1?
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Guest69783, no
[11:33] <FourFire> Hello, I am about to try to install Java from a tar.gz package and I would likr to know which directory it would/should normally be in
[11:34] <varunendra> Guest69783, set the dns in Network Manager itself (use "Automatic (DHCP) address only" for IPv4)
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Guest69783, add the name servers to  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base , it writes to /etc/resolv.conf
[11:35] <slime_mawmag>  hi I need help getting zoneminder to work using a bttv878 card with 4 315D cameras on Ubuntu Server 12.04
[11:35] <Guest69783> # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[11:35] <Guest69783> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[11:35] <Guest69783> nameserver 127.0.1.1
[11:35] <Guest69783> nameserver 8.8.8.8
[11:35] <Guest69783> nameserver 8.8.4.4
[11:35] <FloodBot1> Guest69783: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:36] <Guest69783> i'm sorry FloodBot
[11:38] <Guest69783> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5873861/  shall i save and close?
[11:38] <FourFire> Can someone please direct me to the easiest way to install JRE on Ubuntu (12.04)
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> !jre
[11:44] <odra> Hello
[11:45] <cfhowlett> odra, greetings
[11:46] <slime_mawmag> hi has anyone here have experience with Zoneminder?
[11:46] <odra> How can I program something like the twitter/gmail/etc message alerts? Such that users are asked if they want to install it in firefox when they access a site and such?
[11:47] <diverdude> man top says: RES: Resident Memory Size: "The non-swapped physical memory a task has used". Does that mean RES is current memory usage or memory the process ever used? Like if memory is freed up i cannot see it here.
[11:48] <Igramul> odra: Are you talking about Firefox plugins?
[11:48] <odra> Igramul: I'm not sure :S
[11:49] <odra> Igramul: When I accessed twitter the other day, it asked whether I would like to "install it", so it would be shown in unity message menu
[11:51] <ikonia> diverdude: reserved - man top explains it clearly
[11:51] <Igramul> odra: http://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2009/01/28/how-to-develop-a-firefox-extension/
[12:13] <odra> Igramul: it's not a firefox extension
[12:13] <odra> Igramul: It's a thing that show in ubuntu version of firefox to integrate in unity
[12:19] <Ihsan> Hi. I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 (x64) and whenever I issue the command: 'uname -r', I get the following output: '3.8.0-26-generic'. Now, when I look at kernel.org I see that there is a newer version of the kernel (3.10). How can I upgrade my kernel?
[12:19] <thor_> ...
[12:21] <ItsMeLenny> Ihsan, why would you want to upgrade?
[12:21] <slime_mawmag> Ihsan: you can upgrade using < sudo apt-get upgrade >
[12:21] <Ihsan> I don't know. Isn't it better to always be up-to-date?
[12:22] <Ihsan> Do I need to issue "./configure" then "make" and then "make install" to install the kernel?
[12:23] <kimir> Ihsan: No, because latest kernel may have bugs; it is not well tested
[12:23] <slime_mawmag> Ihsan: only if the new kernel is not yet in your repository, also you will have to update first
[12:23] <Ihsan> Oh okay, I get it now :)
[12:23] <Ihsan> Thanks
[12:23] <slime_mawmag> Ihsan: kimir is right.
[12:24] <Ihsan> So if the kernel is stable it will automatically come with the new version of Ubuntu
[12:24] <papa_> hey all
[12:24] <papa_> I can't get my printer to print in ubuntu
[12:24] <slime_mawmag> Ihsan: Just go along with what is available from your repository. That is more or less the most stable.
[12:24] <Ihsan> Hmm. Arlgiht, thanks for your information!
[12:24] <ItsMeLenny> Ihsan, it will appear in the update manager
[12:25] <ItsMeLenny> you can run update manager and see if theres any new updates, if theres a new kernal ready then it will be in there
[12:25] <papa_> I already tried that
[12:26] <slime_mawmag> papa: ItsmeLenny was referring to Ihsan's :)
[12:27] <papa_> oh ok :)
[12:28] <Learningg> ~check this out_: http://internet-exploiter.blogspot.pt/
[12:29] <nevyn> diverdude: don't believe top
[12:30] <slime_mawmag> papa: normally just got to your printer in Ubuntu
[12:31] <slime_mawmag> papa: add printer then follow the prompt and let it search for the printer online
[12:32] <Homely_Girl> Greetings oh holders of the Linux knowlege!! :)
[12:32] <Homely_Girl> Anyone got experience with using Ubuntu 'n BT HomeHub4?
[12:33] <slime_mawmag> Homely_Girl: sorry but wait for the gurus to come online :)
[12:33] <Homely_Girl> Thanks slime_mawmag, it is far too early!! lol
[12:35] <kolialisad> can someone help me whit wine
[12:36] <kolialisad> how to disable sound?
[12:36] <kolialisad> i want to play street war constructor
[12:40] <kolialisad> is ther no sound prefix
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> kolialisad  type /join #winehq
[12:47] <kolialisad> do you know meybe how to run in window mode
[12:49] <kolialisad> how to remove mesa drivers and istall ati when i try just by addonisanal drivers it gives me error
[12:49] <iceroot_> kolialisad: start wineconfig (imo it was wine-cfg) and on the display settings create a virtual desktop, so everything will run in that window instead of fullscreen, more more details see #winehq
[12:50] <iceroot_> !details | kolialisad
[12:50] <paul__> Hi i am new to this so dont know if in the right place but has anyone lost hdmi audio on 13.04 after the resent update thanks
[12:53] <kolialisad> i have pronlem whit  i istalld newest mesa drivers and now i think they bug my pc i am runing 12.04  so i want to install properity drivers but when i go on addonisanal drivers  it gives me error http://pastebin.com/XrTMb0Tc
[12:57] <kolialisad> anyone
[12:57] <paul__> Also when i install nvidia drivers i lose 2nd monitor so have to revert back to standard drivers tp get back 2nd monitor
[12:58] <saiarcot895> kolialisad: do you have AMD graphics?
[12:59] <paul__> yes amd grphics its a geforce 8400 gs card
[12:59] <kolialisad> i have ati 4650
[13:00] <kolialisad> and before i coud easy install
[13:00] <kolialisad> but affter i install this newest mesa driwers i cant revert
[13:00] <BluesKaj> geforce 8400 gs is nvida
[13:00] <BluesKaj> er nvidia
[13:00] <paul__> my audio shows up in volume settings but notin alsa mixer
[13:01] <BluesKaj> paul try alsamixer , one word
[13:01] <BluesKaj> paul__,^
[13:04] <paul__> yes i have tried that and under s/pdif there is only 00 in a box no bar ?
[13:06] <paul__> this only happened after update this week i may try a reinstall and go from there ive tried many suggestions from the net but no success
[13:07] <zipper_> Hey I don't know if you guys can help but I'm male and 20 years old and sometimes I experience pain in my nipples for a few minutes. is that normal? where can I ask this.
[13:07] <raven_> how can i transfer files from a ubuntu machine to a windows machine on the same network
[13:08] <theadmin> raven_: You can use the built-in folder sharing feature, for one
[13:08] <BluesKaj> !ot | zipper_,
[13:08] <theadmin> raven_: Share a folder with your files and then connect from Windows using your Ubuntu name and password, and the share name you specified.
[13:08] <raven_> hm
[13:09] <kolialisad> pusite ga pederi
[13:09] <raven_> my windows pc cannot see ubuntu shares
[13:09] <theadmin> raven_: To share, you can right click a folder, go to Properties and Sharing. To connect from Windows, you'll need to map a network drive for example, this differs from version to version, but in general this should work: net use X: \\192.168.1.111\myshare
[13:10] <theadmin> raven_: Where 192.168.1.111 is the Ubuntu box's IP.
[13:10] <aguitel> how install manjaro xfce theme in ubuntu ?
[13:10] <zipper_> BluesKaj ubottu seriously I need help.
[13:11] <th0r> aguitel, place it in a folder inside the folder ~/.themes. If that doesn't exist yet, create it
[13:11] <aguitel> th0r, ok but where i find it in the web ?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> yup , no doubt , but this isn't the place , zipper_ so stop trolling please
[13:12] <th0r> aguitel, have no idea, I never heard of it
[13:12] <aguitel> th0r, ok
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> !themes
[13:12] <raven_> it says i dont have the mermissions
[13:15] <occ> what does *make a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf with "options ath9k nohwcrypt"* do? i used it to fix my wifi card(which kept disconnecting), the connection is stable now but a little slower in terms of bandwidth speed
[13:15] <bigDoggy> My vps won't boot. I get to this point http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=df7xqe&s=5 ad it freezes. no detectable errors other than that (pre logging and can't get to dmesg). debconf-show -> http://sprunge.us/MAfM
[13:18] <th0r> occ, that file passes that option to the module when it is loaded
[13:18] <sasha__> Hello
[13:18] <sasha__> I was wondering, how can you tell which wifi channel you're connected to?
[13:18] <sasha__> On Ubuntu 13.04?
[13:19] <sasha__> I tried iwlist wlan0 scan, but that didn't tell me which one I was connected to
[13:19] <saiarcot895> sasha__: wifi channel or wifi router name?
[13:19] <sasha__> WiFi channel
 I was wondering, how can you tell which wifi channel you're connected to?
[13:21] <theadmin> sasha__: Wavemon can tell you
[13:21] <raven_> it says i dont have the mermissions
[13:22] <sasha__> Ok, thanks!
[13:22] <sasha__> Next question, how do I force the computer to connect to an AP that is 5 meters away instead of an AP that is 20m away?
[13:22] <theadmin> sasha__: Uh, just select it from the list?
[13:22] <sasha__> Nah, it's the same network
[13:23] <sasha__> 3 APs with the same SSID to allow roaming
[13:23] <theadmin> sasha__: Uh.... huh. Not sure then, sorry.
[13:23] <bigDoggy> sasha__ that is a config error in the AP
[13:24] <bigDoggy> sasha__ probably a metric
[13:24] <sasha__> what could be wrong? i know that the AP this laptop is trying to connect to is an older WiFi-abg one, and the others are only WiFi-bgn, although they're set to NG
[13:24] <sasha__> *the laptop is connected to
[13:25] <mm12> hi all
[13:25] <mm12> help trying to install ubuntu and iam stuck
[13:25] <mm12> telling me to edit partition
[13:25] <mm12> iam going to install it on different drive and allocated 20gig to it..
[13:26] <mm12> now telling use as:??
[13:26] <sasha__> And because the RSSI is -80dB of the one this laptop is connecting to, the signal is of very low quality, whilst the closer AP has a signal of -50dB
[13:26] <DJones> mm12: Use as is the file system type, for Ubuntu, its normally ext4 or ext3
[13:26] <mm12> mount point?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> sasha__, can you access the router/modem? , type the IP from the gateway in your browser by doing route -n in the terminal
[13:27] <bigDoggy> mm12 winblows user?
[13:27] <DJones> mm12: If this is your main partition, it should be "/"
[13:27] <occ> th0r. but what does that option do? options ath9k nohwcrypt , it makes the connection more stable, but slower... is it something to do with encryption?
[13:27] <sasha__> BluesKaj: it's wrong :P
[13:28] <sasha__> The AP's IP is .3, whilst route -n is telling me that it's .1, which is the gateway
[13:28] <mm12> ok creating partition
[13:29] <mm12> do i have to create swap area?
[13:29] <bigDoggy> mm12 yes
[13:29] <bigDoggy> mm12 about 500 to 700mb is fine
[13:30] <mm12> pk
[13:30] <mm12> ok
[13:30] <theadmin> mm12: No, you don't *have* to, but it's best to do so for optimal performance
[13:31] <theadmin> mm12: If you're a new user why don't you just use the automated partitioning options? Just click the "Install Ubuntu near Windows" thing and go from there?
[13:31] <mm12> thanks
[13:33] <mm12> how long does this take usually to intall
[13:34] <theadmin> mm12: Around half an hour for me
[13:34] <mm12> drivers for this has it got it..i have the gigabyte 7970
[13:35] <mm12> so i dont any antivirus or firewall for this
[13:35] <mm12> need
[13:35] <theadmin> mm12: Yup, no need for that nonsense.
[13:35] <mm12> nice
[13:35] <theadmin> mm12: Well, Ubuntu has a built-in firewall, but it's rare that you'd need to bother configuring it.
[13:37] <Keba> hi there
[13:38] <mm12> hi
[13:38] <sebrock> I've got an issue with xl2tpd and currently running 10.04 LTS so version is 1.2.8. Can someone help me build the latest version?
[13:39] <Keba> is there an official page (for example in the ubuntu wiki) which lists the winners of the 13.04 wallpaper contest? (i only find blogs for that matter, nothing official)
[13:39] <theadmin> Keba: ...Well, if anything, Ubuntu has an official blog at fridge.ubuntu.com, might look around there.
[13:40] <mm12> whats an alternative to utorrent
[13:40] <theadmin> mm12: Transmission is a great client, built-in to Ubuntu.
[13:40] <yousdo> transmission
[13:41] <Raveni> tixati is good too
[13:41] <mm12> ive installed it on different drive hopes its safe
[13:42] <mm12> wow that was quick brb
[13:42] <theadmin> mm12: Tixati is also okay as Raveni said, but it's closed source.
[13:42] <mm12> brb theadmin  restart now that was quick wow
[13:42] <theadmin> mm12: Hehe :)
[13:42] <aguitel> what twitter client are working ?
[13:44] <DJones> aguitel: As far as I know Friends works in 13.04, although I use polly which is from a ppa (and wouldn't be supported in this channel)
[13:45] <nothinking> hello
[13:46] <nothinking> hi
[13:46] <cfhowlett> nothink
[13:46] <nothinking> hello
[13:46] <DJones> Hi nothinking Welcome to #ubuntu, if you have a support question feel free to ask it
[13:46] <nothinking> my english very bad
[13:47] <nothinking> who can help me
[13:47] <Dr_willis> ask a question first and see.
[13:47] <nothinking> i from chinese
[13:47] <DJones> nothinking: What is your native language? There may be a language specific channel that can help
[13:47] <DJones> !cn | nothinking
[13:48] <nothinking> 这能不能学英文啊
[13:48] <th0r> DJones, you could tell by his accent?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> !cn | nothinking
[13:48] <nothinking> 想用ubuntu  英文难倒人啊
[13:49] <Roey> Hi.  Why is my timezone set to UTC all of a sudden??  How can I change this back to EDT?
[13:49] <DJones> nothinking: Type "/join #ubuntu-cn" and the people in that channel should be able to help you in chinese language
[13:50] <DJones> Ah well, hope they've joined #ubuntu-cn
[13:53] <nothinking> hi  i'm chinese
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> !cn > nothinking
[13:54] <Dr_willis> nothinking,  and this is english in here,  so chat in english here, or join the chinease channel.
[13:55] <gotwig> I want that ^(?:http://)?([^/]+)(?://?.*/?)/(.*)$ checks for www.  How can I do that? right now it checks for ://
[13:56] <nothinking> i want stady english
[13:56] <Dr_willis> then ask your question here, in english nothinking
[13:57] <SaxX> gotwig>> where do you want to check that?
[13:57] <net0pssec> who knowsbest material on shell scripting...
[13:57] <Dr_willis> net0pssec,  theres 10000's of sites and guides on bash scripting.
[13:57] <Dr_willis> !abs
[13:58] <Dr_willis> the #bash channel may know of other guides for differnt levels of experience.
[13:58] <Raveni> I try to use kdenlive video editing software... When I rendering my projedt output file size is 0kt? what i'm doing wrong?
[13:59] <nothinking> i want to make a foreign friend
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> nothinking  wrong channel
[14:00] <Dr_willis> for chit-chat  - try the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[14:01] <SaxX> join the chinese channel for that nothinking
[14:01] <net0pssec> thanks all
[14:03] <tobiasBora> Hello,
[14:03] <Aaruni> I have installed fglrx drivers on my new ubuntu 12.04 64bit. but I still get this. anyone know why ? http://edufor.fosspowered.com/img/image.php?di=FIGA  http://edufor.fosspowered.com/img/image.php?di=FA9O
[14:03] <tobiasBora> I'd like to know, in a bash script I'd like what does "${1% *}" means ?
[14:05] <Dr_willis> $FOO = a variable.  cant say ive notived that exact syntax befor. could be some sort of dynamic variable. #bash maybe a better place to ask
[14:05] <Dr_willis> ${command}  runs the command and sends the output of the command back to the script. but that seems weird in your syntax also.
[14:05] <tobiasBora> Dr_willis: Thanks, Euh there is two % but when I send it only one is displayed
[14:06] <Dr_willis> what are you even trying to do?
[14:06] <tobiasBora> if which "${1% % *}"
[14:06] <tobiasBora> (without space)
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> tobiasBora  sure it's not some kind of "bomb"?
[14:07] <jrib> tobiasBora:  foo='  bar cat  '; echo "${foo% *}"XXX
[14:08] <theadmin> Dr_willis: No, that's $(command), ${VAR} returns the variable -- same as $VAR except it works with odd names
[14:08] <dkkddkd> how to realtime stream canon digital cam to ubuntu
[14:08] <Dr_willis> its early. ;) heh
[14:08] <tobiasBora> MonkeyDust: Bomb ?
[14:08] <theadmin> tobiasBora: Malicious command disguised in weirdness
[14:08] <jrib> tobiasBora: also see Paramater Expansion in « man bash »
[14:09] <tobiasBora> I asked in #bash and it seems to be filter parameters : http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/073
[14:09] <tobiasBora> jrib: indeed it's that
[14:09] <tobiasBora> Thanks !
[14:10] <mm12> hi all
[14:11] <mm12> how do i download skype for ubuntu
[14:11] <jrib> !skype | mm12
[14:11] <theadmin> mm12: You use the Software Center to install extra apps on Ubuntu. Skype's in there.
[14:12] <mm12> i typed in its not there
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> mm12  activate third party repo
[14:13] <mm12> how do i do that
[14:13] <theadmin> mm12: It is, but you'll need to use the partner reository. See System Settings -> Software & Updates
[14:13] <theadmin> mm12: In there, Other Software -> Canonical Partners should be enabled.
[14:14] <theadmin> mm12: Or you can just go over to skype.com and get the Ubuntu package from there
[14:15] <theadmin> mm12: http://download.skype.com/linux/skype-ubuntu-precise_4.2.0.11-1_i386.deb - direct link
[14:15] <theadmin> mm12: (is 32-bit, but 64-bit Ubuntu is actually multiarch so you can use it there as well, Skype doesn't have a proper 64-bit version sadly)
[14:15] <mm12> marverlous thanks
[14:16] <Guest85378> I added on a Radeon X1650 card alongside my Riva TNT2 card (for some reason the BIOS cannot boot with only the X1650). The system boots OK but it cannot load the GUI. I tried startx and it said "segmentation fault at 0x58". I think that it is that the 2 GPU combo. So, how can I completely disable the TNT2 inside of linunx.
[14:16] <mm12> man this is so quicker than windows..wow
[14:16] <theadmin> mm12: Good to hear :)
[14:17] <theadmin> mm12: Yeah, Ubuntu is a lot faster than Windows, I have no idea what Windows uses resources on. I thought it uses them to look pretty, but Windows 8 is ugly and still uses a load of resources :/
[14:19] <mm12> oh oh download is stuck lol
[14:19] <dkkddkd> how to realtime stream canon digital cam to ubuntu
[14:19] <dkkddkd> hello guys how to realtime stream canon digital cam to ubuntu????????????????
[14:20] <theadmin> !patience | dkkddkd
[14:20] <theadmin> mm12: Microsoft lol. Let me reupload that package somewhere.
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> dkkddkd  http://www.area536.com/projects/streaming-video/
[14:20] <Guest85378> dkkdkd: download VLC, then there should be an option to open a capture device. Select the camera and go.
[14:20] <mm12> awesome thanks
[14:21] <mm12> brb
[14:21] <theadmin> mm12: http://ubuntuone.com/1FWF4pWh9kr6wKxHXECUy4
[14:21] <dkkddkd> i am trying over vlc..but i cant stream over devices in vlc...only integrated web cam is there
[14:22] <Dako300> what do you mean by you cant stream over deivces
[14:23] <sebrock> can someone help me build xl2tpd 1.3.1 for Lucid?
[14:23] <theadmin> Dako300: I think (s)he means "other" rather than "over".
[14:23] <Dako300> ok
[14:24] <Dako300> dkkddkd: is the camera installed on the computer
 other device means for eg. my digital cam canon sx 40hs
[14:24] <Dako300> I understand that, is the camera installed on the computer.
 no.. i just connected it via HDMI cable
[14:25] <Vinnie_win> Okay I just updated my Ubuntu software from the update manager and now the VirtualBox Guest Additions dont work
[14:25] <Vinnie_win> How do I update the guest additions?
[14:25] <Dako300> dkkddkd: so you want to open a stream for a HDMI connection
[14:26] <saiarcot895> Vinnie_win: you have to tell Virtualbox to load the Guest Additions ISO file so that you can reinstall it
[14:27] <BluesKaj> sebrock,why are you running lucid server ?
[14:27] <munzx> hi! i have installed ubuntu 13.04 and removed window$ 8 from an asus s200e notebook and now it overheats! , what is the "acceptable" temperature! , kindly note , i am giving it to my friend's 9 years old daughter
[14:27] <saiarcot895> Vinnie_win: Devices -> Install Guest Additions
[14:28] <BluesKaj> sebrock, let me rephrase , are you running lucid server ?
  yes
[14:28] <saiarcot895> munzx: depends on your CPU. what CPU do you have, and how do you know it's overheating?
[14:28] <sebrock> BluesKaj: yes
[14:30] <BluesKaj> so what's your problem with xl2tpd 1.3.1  , sebrock ?
[14:30] <Dako300> dkkddkd: then I dont know what to say, I tried what I thought was the same thing before and it worked but I dont know about HDMI.
[14:30] <clue_h> Is there a way to prevent nautilus in ubuntu 12.04  showing the option to 'browse network'?
[14:30] <sebrock> BluesKaj: I need it, I'm curretly on 1.2.8 which has some nasty bugs. But I'm not comfortable with building stuff
[14:31] <danahacker> I am novice and wanting to install ubuntu along side windows xp. Should I choose "use LVM with the new Ubuntu installation"
[14:31] <munzx> it is an intel celeron processor , i tried sensors command and i got 64 - 75
[14:31] <theadmin> danahacker: You probably don't want that. Just choose the "Install Ubuntu alongside with Windows" option
[14:31] <saiarcot895> munzx: the high and critical values?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> sebrock, wonder if your kernel supports that version (1.3.1 )
[14:32] <theadmin> danahacker: Also, if you're a new user, I'd recommend the LTS version (12.04) as you won't need to upgrade often
[14:32] <theadmin> danahacker: Can get used to it :P
 thanks for your suggestions... just now i downloaded and installed DigiKam but not possible
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> danahacker  LVM is a lot more complex than a normal installation and you'll think the system is no good
[14:32] <sebrock> BluesKaj: I'm on: 2.6.32-47
[14:33] <BluesKaj> is the 1.3.1 listed in muon , sebrock ?
[14:33] <munzx> saiarcot895:  high +86 and crit +100
[14:33] <munzx> saiarcot895: but i get in my personal laptop about 45c
[14:33] <Dako300> I added on a Radeon X1650 card alongside my Riva TNT2 card (for some reason the BIOS cannot boot with only the X1650). The system boots OK but it cannot load the GUI. I tried startx and it said "segmentation fault at 0x58". I think that it is that the 2 GPU combo. So, how can I completely disable the TNT2 inside of linunx.
[14:33] <sebrock> BluesKaj: in moun?
[14:34] <danahacker> theadmin: I'll switch to the LTS.  I was attempting with 13.04.  Also, "Install Ubuntu alongside with Windows" is not an option with 13.04
[14:34] <theadmin> danahacker: It is
[14:34] <theadmin> danahacker: Might be phrased a bit differently but it's there
[14:34] <sebrock> problem is that xl2tpd spikes the CPU to 100% and then throtteling speed. I get a lot of xl2tpd[9474]: write_packet: Resource temporarily unavailable(11) errors and RX errors
[14:34] <saiarcot895> munzx: the "resting" temperature depends on the model of the CPU, so in one laptop, the "resting" temperature could be around 35-40 C while in another laptop, it could be around 50 C.
[14:34] <Dako300> now would be a good time to add that I am using a Dell Precision Workstation 530 MT, which the BIOS does not support the card without a minor fix.
[14:34] <BluesKaj> sorry sebrock I meant your package manager
[14:35] <saiarcot895> munzx: based on the high and critical values, I wouldn't say the cpu is overheating, just that it's relatively warmer than others
[14:35] <BluesKaj> sebrock, software center / repos
[14:35] <rudivs> anyone know a tool to edit exif / metadata tags of MP4 files? specifically, I've got a video with a "Create Date" from 1947, which is messing with Shotwell
[14:36] <munzx> saiarcot895:  so do you think it is safe to give to young girl ! (not trying to be dramatic , i am just worried )
[14:36] <danahacker> "erase, encrypt, LVM, something else" are the only options I see.  Guess it doesn't matter anyways since I am switching to LTS, will see what options it shows.  Im sure it is present, usuer error
[14:37] <theadmin> danahacker: Hm... It might not detect Windows. Which is a problem.
[14:37] <theadmin> danahacker: Try the LTS, yeah... But if that fails, you'll have to partition manually if you wish to keep Windows
[14:37] <mm12> ok how do i install pokerstars on ubuntu  because its an exe file do i need wine
[14:37] <saiarcot895> munzx: well, for starters, I wouldn't recommend placing the laptop on her lap; instead, it should be on a table/bed/not touching her primarily because of the heat
[14:37] <theadmin> munzx: My machine sits at aroudn 60 degrees all the time according to the sensors
[14:38] <sebrock> BluesKaj: of course not, I would have installed it if it would. 1.2.8 was the lastest I could find on launchpad for amd64.
[14:38] <theadmin> mm12: Yeah, to run Windows apps wine is necessary. Click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/wine
[14:38] <munzx> saiarcot895: thanks for the advice
[14:38] <theadmin> mm12: Then just run the exe as you would in Windows (double-click it in the filemanager or such ;))
[14:38] <quatar> hi all. Yes I have read plenty of related topics in askubuntu, ubuntu forum and so. But I still don't get it: is it (deterministically) possible to install ubuntu 13.04 64bit alongside windows 8 on a (UEFI) vaio laptop, with a working dual boot, without wasting the pre-installed win 8 system?
[14:38] <BluesKaj> sebrock, you may want to consider upgrading your server to 12.04 LTS
[14:38] <chris__> I tried the regular install routine and my computer video card appeared to be a problem so I downloaded the mini iso and went from there.  It is working great but upon boot is says ububnt studio.  what version is this considered to be?
[14:38] <sebrock> BluesKaj: I know, but as of right now this is not an option
[14:38] <theadmin> quatar: Yeah, although you'll need to tweak a few things (disable secure boot, fast boot)
[14:39] <BluesKaj> sebrock, is this a work machine ?
[14:39] <quatar> theadmin, i guess that a specifically designed guide for this particular configuration has not been written, has it?
[14:39] <sebrock> BluesKaj: yes
[14:40] <munzx> theadmin:  same here , it is around 64 all the time and raise to 70 when playing videos!!!
[14:40] <quatar> theadmin: can I trust the auto-partitioning? and will i need bootrepair?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> ok , then I'm out of ideas , sebrock , sorry
[14:40] <theadmin> quatar: Why yes, it's linked to right at the download page as well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI -- generally speaking, autopartitioning is your best bet, if you partition manually there's a few EFI-specific things to take care of
[14:41] <theadmin> munzx: Eh, fine for me, I wouldn't call that overheating. Overheating is when the temperature is above the "high" value.
[14:42] <BluesKaj> sebrock, if your server kernels and or OS need upgrading but you're not allowed to do so i don't see asolution
[14:43] <quatar> theadmin, ok last time i saw that wiki page it was not so accurate in all the steps. Now it looks more cmprehensive
[14:43] <quatar> so I will try ...
[14:43] <quatar> thanks
[14:50] <iceroot> what is the way to view the network-traffic (content) which is passing my wlan0 device? if it is possible i am only interested on traffic which is going to a specific host on port 25 and 143
[14:50] <theadmin> iceroot: I'm not 100% sure but I think you're looking for Wireshark.
[14:51] <iceroot> theadmin: thank you i will have a look
[14:53] <freddofrog> do I still need to specially install the linux-image-virtual series for a paravirt guest on 12.04.2 or does the standard kernel support PV ?
[14:53] <munzx> theadmin : ok , thanks :)
[14:54] <mm12> where is the restart button?? its missing
[14:54] <theadmin> mm12: Uh? There's this icon on the top right, then you choose "Shut down" and then "Restart"
[14:56] <mm12> brb
[14:56] <valroadie> Hello! I just installed crunchbang (using the live dvd right now) and it has messed up my boot loader/grub. I have ubuntu on this laptop as well and decided to have both but once crunchbang was installed and I rebooted none of them show up and my computer wont recognize any OS's. Any idea on how to fix the grub loader? I would appreciate it! :) My laptop is a macbook 2,1 late 2006 model, incase you needed the info xD
[14:57] <theadmin> !restoregrub | valroadie
[14:58] <bananasarda> hi to everybody...
[14:58] <pavepaws> hello to you :D
[14:58] <shaunship> yeallow
[14:58] <shaunship> :):):):
[15:02] <valroadie> Thank you theadmin!
[15:03] <theadmin> valroadie: I didn't exactly do anything xD Just sent the documentation link
[15:04] <mm12> how do i do updates on here
[15:05] <theadmin> mm12: you'll be notified of them, but basically there's this app called "Update Manager" ("Software Updater" since 13.04) which will update everything on your system
[15:05] <valroadie> theadmin, yeah well someone had to point me in the right direction eh? Haha cheers mate.
[15:05] <theadmin> valroadie: "eh" and "mate" in the same sentence? Canastralia! xD lol sorry
[15:07] <shaunship> how do i make my forum post sticky?
[15:07] <valroadie> Hahaha close! Cana-uk xD Though I wish I was in canada! lol
[15:07] <theadmin> shaunship: Uh... you don't. Forum administrators do that to announcements and such.
[15:07] <Dr_willis> I imagine only forum admins can do that shaunship
[15:07] <Dr_willis> askubuntu.com is a good alternative to the forums.
[15:08] <theadmin> Yeah, I have no idea why they still keep the forums, askubuntu works better than those
[15:09] <arewe_> ooo b ooo nt ooo
[15:10] <arewe_> pođimo u krčmu staruuu
[15:11] <theadmin> !pl | arewe_
[15:12] <sarthor> Hi, yesterday Ben: told me some linux command to konw the specs of the computer, somthing like inix -F, I do not remember the exact command. can some one help please.
[15:15] <theadmin> sarthor: lshw would give the most information
[15:15] <BluesKaj> sarthor, what specs are you interested in ?
[15:15] <theadmin> Dunno what "inix" is, didn't hear anything similar
[15:15] <sarthor> theadmin: BlueEagl1 inxi -F worked.
[15:17] <Aaruni|OSX> can windows 7 ultimate 64-bit be dual booted along with Ubuntu 12.04 64-bt (ubuntu is already installed) on a UEFI laptop, with MBR partition scheme ?
[15:18] <theadmin> Aaruni|OSX: Yeah, but... You'll lose the bootloader if you install Windows after Ubutnu
[15:18] <theadmin> Ubuntu*
[15:18] <Aaruni|OSX> theadmin: I can boot-repair from liveUSB no problem
[15:19] <theadmin> Aaruni|OSX: If you need Windows for small things or use it rarely might be best to virtualize, using Virtualbox or somesuch.
[15:19] <danahacker> threadmin: with LTS I only have "erase disk, something else". I want a dual boot because I have never used this and want to make sure I can still right grants and communicate with global nonprofits via video chat. Any recommendations
[15:19] <saiarcot895> Aaruni|OSX: or use Wine if it works with those programs
[15:19] <Aaruni|OSX> what bothers me is that Ubuntu wanted a 200mb partition for /boot/EFI. gonna use windows for intensive gaming
[15:20] <theadmin> danahacker: This is bad... I mean, if it fails to detect Windows it means it won't add it to the list of operating systems on the boot screen :/
[15:20] <Casey> is there a program like Ghost32 out there for ubuntu?
[15:20] <theadmin> Casey: What's it do?
[15:20] <saiarcot895> Aaruni|OSX: the standard size for the boot partition is 100-200 MB, although I heard someone used 1 GB (voluntarily)
[15:21] <Casey> Ghost32 is a Symantec program that does a carbon copy of a HDD into a ghost32 file.
[15:21] <clue_h> dd
[15:21] <Aaruni|OSX> saiarcot895: but till BIOS laptop, it didn't ask for a specific boot partition
[15:21] <theadmin> Casey: Uhh... okay, so a disk image? dd can do it, yeah.
[15:21] <mm12> a friend of mine has an ati 6450 his in terminal in safe mode he need the updates from ati ..what does hes have to write to get them
[15:21] <Aaruni|OSX> I just had an ubuntu partition, a swap partiion, and a windows partition, saiarcot895
[15:21] <saiarcot895> Aaruni|OSX: UEFI requires it, though
[15:22] <Casey> do you know what kind of "image" file it creates?
[15:22] <Casey> the extension that is
[15:22] <clue_h> Casey you can specify that
[15:22] <Aaruni|OSX> saiarcot895: so, does windows require something like that too, or will it just work normally ?
[15:23] <mm12> hi everyone need some help
[15:23] <Casey> DD is a built in program?
[15:23] <danahacker> theadmin: hmmm I clicked on "something else" and it shows two partitions /dev/sda1 Windows xp media center edition, and /dev/sda2 windows nt/2000/xp
[15:23] <Casey> Sorry, new to linux.
[15:23] <mm12>  a friend of mine has an ati 6450 his in terminal in safe mode he need the updates from ati ..what does hes have to write to get them
[15:23] <clue_h> Casey, it comes with linux
[15:23] <Casey> clue_h can I get its full name?
[15:23] <saiarcot895> Aaruni|OSX: if you are using UEFI, then you need to have one (U)EFI system partition, located at the start of the hard drive; it's not OS specific
[15:23] <theadmin> danahacker: Yeah I know, but that's just the partitions... Eh. Anyway, I'm off here.
[15:23] <Aaruni|OSX> mm12: you can manually download the drivers, and then chmod +x, and then run it
[15:23] <theadmin> Casey: The full name is dd. It's a command.
[15:24] <Casey> theadmin: ohh, haha gotcha
[15:24] <Aaruni|OSX> saiarcot895: so, if I have that 200 mb boot partition, then its common for all the OSs ?
[15:24] <theadmin> Aaruni|OSX: Bad idea, the drivers from the website often fail on Ubuntu.
[15:24] <saiarcot895> Aaruni|OSX: Yes
[15:24] <Casey> theadmin: anything GUI based? :D
[15:24] <theadmin> mm12: Try sudo apt-get install fglrx
[15:24] <danahacker> thanks you theadmin
[15:24] <saiarcot895> Aaruni|OSX: for what it's worth, you can probably shrink it down to 150 or 100 MB and have it still work
[15:24] <theadmin> Casey: Eh... I'm not into GUIs for stuff that's easier to do with a console :/
[15:24] <clue_h> Casey, i'm not being bossy but you have to be real careful with it and review the commands before pressing enter lol
[15:25] <Aaruni|OSX> theadmin: only the website drivers for me. the drivers from jockey cause crashers
[15:25] <clue_h> GUI based?
[15:25] <Aaruni|OSX> *crashes
[15:25] <chunkyhead> i changed my mouse curson theme, now i can't change it back help.
[15:25] <foolcool> if I just enter random commands I see on 4chan will it mess up my linux
[15:25] <saiarcot895> Aaruni|OSX: on my system, based on "df -h", by boot partition is 99 MB
[15:25] <saiarcot895> *my
[15:25] <theadmin> Aaruni|OSX: Usually is the opposite.
[15:25] <danahacker> can I accomplish most tasks without keeping windows xp?
[15:25] <Aaruni|OSX> saiarcot895: I don't have any space restrains. have a 500gig HDD
[15:25] <theadmin> danahacker: As long as you don't do much gaming... Well, you can do everything
[15:25] <Aaruni|OSX> theadmin: maybe my systems are unique
[15:25] <Casey> clue_h: thats why I was asking for GUI. not about to go mess with image programs in command :-p
[15:26] <Casey> clue_h: no "bossy" taken
[15:26] <theadmin> danahacker: There's literally nothing Ubuntu can't do :P It can run Windows apps, too, but that doesn't always work well (obviously)
[15:27] <Aaruni|OSX> theadmin: but I can't get this window to reflect the gfx hardware I have : http://edufor.fosspowered.com/img/image.php?di=FIGA
[15:27] <marco__> Hey Everyone!  I am having an issue and the interwebs just arent providing me with any sort of answer.  I would like to disable the mouse gestures from Ubuntu 13.04.... now, if this is not possible my main concern is with the application switcher.. i don't even know how the mouse gesture works BUT it happens ALL THE TIME at the worst moment - and I often loose much typed out text.
[15:27] <theadmin> danahacker: ...well, if you are installing on a kerosene-powered cheese grater there are better distros for the purpose. But on generic machines, Ubuntu's great :)
[15:28] <danahacker> I'm sure there's a learning curve.  Is this a good place to come ask really basic questions?  Damn my machine runs kerosene chedder 2.1....is that okay :-)
[15:28] <Aaruni|OSX> switching graphics between intel HD, and AMD HD 7670m works though, from catalyst control center
[15:29] <theadmin> danahacker: Basic questions are fine, for sure. Ubuntu comes with a built-in help system too, make sure to read it (you can also find the same docs online at help.ubuntu.com )
[15:29] <clue_h> you can also pm ubottu to find stuff out
[15:30] <raven> anyone who used HEIMDALL to root a android phone already? "partition recovery does not exist in the specified PIT .... any hints?
[15:30] <saiarcot895> marco__: mouse gestures? what kind of mouse gestures?
[15:30] <bigDoggy> where is ntfsundelete hidden? I cannot find ntfsprogs in apt-get
[15:30] <theadmin> bigDoggy: Is in ntfs-3g now
[15:31] <mm12> wine works great theadmin
[15:31] <psilo_> 12.04LTS currently packages PHP5.4, but I want to install 5.3. What's the cleanest approach to this?  I hope I can still use apt for this package.
[15:31] <theadmin> mm12: Good to hear.
[15:31] <Aaruni|OSX> theadmin: any thoughts ?
[15:32] <theadmin> Aaruni|OSX: That displays some weirdness for me as well
[15:32] <theadmin> Aaruni|OSX: I choose to ignore it :D
[15:32] <Aaruni|OSX> hmm
[15:32] <Aaruni|OSX> xD
[15:32] <Aaruni|OSX> theadmin: will do the same ^_^
[15:32] <mm12> one thing though how come when i boot up it doesent come up with dual boot i have to go to bios to change it and then it goes into ubuntu
[15:33] <Aaruni|OSX> mm12: installed on two different HDDs ?
[15:33] <mm12> yes
[15:33] <Aaruni|OSX> then use the ubuntu HDD as the primary boot device
[15:33] <Aaruni|OSX> and then boot-repair
[15:33] <Aaruni|OSX> that should do it
[15:33] <theadmin> mm12: Well if they are on different drives that's kinda how it's supposed to work I think
[15:34] <Aaruni|OSX> AFAIK, if you can call GRUB before you go to windows boot loader, then it will work. and since GRUB is installed on the second drive, it comes up only when you choose the second drive in BIOS
[15:34] <mm12> yep but i have to change if i have to use windows through bios
[15:34] <Aaruni|OSX> mm12: did you try boot-repair
[15:34] <Aaruni|OSX> ?
[15:34] <mm12> how?
[15:35] <Aaruni|OSX> its a GUI application. it will fix most errors in GRUB
[15:35] <Aaruni|OSX> ubottu: GRUB
[15:35] <Aaruni|OSX> ubottu: boot-repair
[15:35] <Aaruni|OSX> ubottu: boot repair
[15:36] <Bsims> Howdy
[15:36] <Aaruni|OSX> mm12: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[15:39] <marco__> Saiarcot895:  Thank you for the reply, sorry I had not realized it came through.  As I said in my inital question, apploication switcher.
[15:39] <sebrock> can someone help me build a custom xl2tpd on launchpad?
[15:39] <erythrocyte> does anyone know if the pulseaudio package that comes with ubuntu 13.04 have support for webrtc echo cancellation? and if so how do i enable it?
[15:40] <marco__> It is not just a mouse thing, its also because of the keyboard.  In typing this it popped up 3 times and switched me to other apps.
[15:40] <marco__> Saiarcot895: It is not just a mouse thing, its also because of the keyboard.  In typing this it popped up 3 times and switched me to other apps.
[15:42] <saiarcot895> marco__: not sure on this, but the only way I can bring up the application switcher is by using Alt+Tab, Alt+`, or clicking on an icon with two windows
[15:42] <saiarcot895> marco__: in the Unity Tweak Tool, there's an Application Switcher section
[15:42] <sebrock> what is the channel for launchpad here on freenode?
[15:43] <Aaruni|OSX> bye
[15:43] <saiarcot895> marco__: you could check your settings there are see if there's anything strange
[15:43] <saiarcot895> sebrock: #launchpad
[15:44] <marco__> Saiarcot895: Unity tweak, i had at one point, will re-DL, what do I do with it to check?  Alt-Tab is the only *known* way opening switcher on my laptop, NO clue whats doing i hen I am typing quick and careless.
[15:45] <saiarcot895> marco__: install it (sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool); open it from the Dash; see the Application Switcher section
[15:45] <saiarcot895> marco__:  *see the Switcher section
[15:46] <erythrocyte> does any one know how to enable webrtc module for pulseaudio in ubuntu?
[15:53] <Guest25663> how i see complete information of a media, either photo or video, from the terminal?
[15:55] <mm12> Temperature Monitoring in Ubuntu tells me i have to be root
[15:55] <marco__> Saiarot895: Got it open but I am not seeing an app switcher section anywhere.... am I overlooking it or is it a bit off the beaten path?
[15:55] <mm12> for my graphic card..
[15:55] <mm12> permission denied?
[15:55] <saiarcot895> marco__: under Unity, there should be a Switcher button
[15:55] <mm12> unalbe to lock the administration directory /var/lib/dpkg
[15:55] <mm12> help someone
[15:57] <saiarcot895> !dpkglock | mm12
[15:57] <valroadie> Can anyone help me out with this boot loader error file? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5874421/
[15:57] <valroadie> I have tried twice with the boot-repair tool but to no avail.
[15:57] <chunkyhead> i changed my mouse curson theme, now i can't change it back help.
[15:57] <marco__> saiarcot895: i have found that section but see no resolve.  Would "automatically expose windows" checkbox be of use?
[15:58] <marco__> wait wait
[15:58] <marco__> saiarcot895: WTF, there are like 20 shortcuts to open switcher... no wonder.... jeeeeeez, whhhyyyyy
[15:59] <saiarcot895> marco__: try Restore Defaults
[15:59] <marco__> saiarcot895: OK, but it wont let me remove these shortcuts, how do I do that... my problem will be fixed
[15:59] <marco__> saiarcot895: nope
[16:00] <marco__> saiarcot895: the last 2 options ar "disabled" by default  but i see no way of disabling those enabled or vice versa
[16:00] <saiarcot895> marco__: clicking on the shortcut allows you to change them
[16:01] <goles> Hey guys, I'm starting a fresh ubuntu 13 64 bits server, I was wondering if someone knows about a decent guide about the basics of security that I should be aware of, (I'm not exactly a noob, but I want to cover my bases)
[16:01] <saiarcot895> marco__: try assigning the same shortcut to the open switchers
[16:01] <MeraLundKhadaHai> is this the moment where i look you in the eye forgive my broken promise that you'll never see me cry and everything it will surely change even if i tell you i won't go away today will you think that you're all alone when no one's there to hold your hand i know you know it seems so far away when everything's temporary something your hand im permanent
[16:02] <MeraLundKhadaHai> is this the moment where i look you in the eye forgive my broken promise that you'll never see me cry and everything it will surely change even if i tell you i won't go away today will you think that you're all alone when no one's there to hold your hand i know you know it seems so far away when everything's temporary something your hand im permanent
[16:02] <saiarcot895> goles: try #ubuntu-server
[16:02] <MeraLundKhadaHai> is this the moment where i look you in the eye forgive my broken promise that you'll never see me cry and everything it will surely change even if i tell you i won't go away today will you think that you're all alone when no one's there to hold your hand i know you know it seems so far away when everything's temporary something your hand im permanent
[16:02] <MeraLundKhadaHai> is this the moment where i look you in the eye forgive my broken promise that you'll never see me cry and everything it will surely change even if i tell you i won't go away today will you think that you're all alone when no one's there to hold your hand i know you know it seems so far away when everything's temporary something your hand im permanent
[16:02] <MeraLundKhadaHai> is this the moment where i look you in the eye forgive my broken promise that you'll never see me cry and everything it will surely change even if i tell you i won't go away today will you think that you're all alone when no one's there to hold your hand i know you know it seems so far away when everything's temporary something your hand im permanent
[16:02] <Guest25663> Hi guys. How i see complete information of a media, either photo or video, from the terminal?
[16:02] <valroadie> ugh...spam
[16:02] <MeraLundKhadaHai> is this the moment where i look you in the eye forgive my broken promise that you'll never see me cry and everything it will surely change even if i tell you i won't go away today will you think that you're all alone when no one's there to hold your hand i know you know it seems so far away when everything's temporary something your hand im permanent
[16:02] <MeraLundKhadaHai> is this the moment where i look you in the eye forgive my broken promise that you'll never see me cry and everything it will surely change even if i tell you i won't go away today will you think that you're all alone when no one's there to hold your hand i know you know it seems so far away when everything's temporary something your hand im permanent
[16:03] <jrib> Guest25663: what information exactly?
[16:03] <jrib> MeraLundKhadaHai: stop
[16:03] <goles> saiarcot895: ty
[16:03] <Guest25663> size, fps, quality, duration ...
[16:03] <valroadie> pwned! xD So if no one can help me with this boot-repair error file, could someone point me in the right direction then? I need quick help or I would post on the forums like I usually do. Thanks! http://paste.ubuntu.com/5874421/
[16:04] <valroadie> guest25663, if you right clock on the file you can see all of those on the properties page if I'm not mistaken.
[16:04] <valroadie> *click
[16:04] <saiarcot895> marco__: using Backspace will change it to disabled
[16:04] <valroadie> Maybe not duration :/
[16:05] <RedDragon> Greetings folks
[16:05] <Guest25663> ok, but i wanted to get this information via terminal
[16:06] <RedDragon> I need some help with a video issue on Ubuntu 12.04 ...
[16:06] <jrib> Guest25663: "mplayer -identify" probably gives you a lot of it
[16:06] <GBS-NET> i hav no idea whats with this terminal 2day.....tryn2 open it and it gives msg "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal. text was empty(or contained only whitespace)pls hlp.
[16:06] <mm12> help pls how do i monitor my graphic cards temperature
[16:06] <mm12> is there a program that does it
[16:07] <saiarcot895> mm12: sensors might be able to get your GPU temperatures (sudo apt-get install lm-sensors)
[16:07] <saiarcot895> mm12: depends on your hardware, though
[16:08] <mm12> ok its installed how do i run it..
[16:08] <saiarcot895> mm12: you have to initially run "sudo sensors-detect" to get all the sensors, but then you can just run sensors from the terminal
[16:08] <RedDragon> help, I am getting a low video mode on boot ...
[16:09] <Guest25663> jrib, ok, i tested ffprobe and did more or less what i wanted, now, i need a command to images...
[16:09] <mm12> what u mean run sensor..like how..
[16:09] <mm12> which command
[16:10] <chunkyhead> how do you change password of irssi account?
[16:10] <saiarcot895> mm12: from terminal (Ctrl+Alt+A)
[16:10] <saiarcot895> mm12: type in "sudo sensors-detect" first
[16:10] <chunkyhead> passworf or irc accout rather
[16:13] <RedDragon> can any one help with a low video mode issue???
[16:13] <marco__> <saiarcot895: backspace is not working, nor delete
[16:14] <saiarcot895> marco__: is the Restore Defaults button grayed-out?
[16:14] <marco__> No sir, looking normal
[16:16] <saiarcot895> marco__: when you click on a keyboard shortcut, does the text change to New Accelerator...?
[16:16] <otak> Guest25663: file <imagename> can get size, feh --list <imagename> gets more info
[16:17] <marco__> saiarcot895: i dont know if i get you but I'd say no... when i click on one of the choices if i hit any key it opens a box and i can type in it but nothing changes
[16:18] <saiarcot895> marco__: double-clicking on the keyboard shortcut itself (like on <Alt>Tab)?
[16:18] <marco__> saiarcot895: you are speaking of system settings, not unity tweak tool.
[16:19] <saiarcot895> marco__: no, I mean the unity tweak took
[16:19] <marco__> saiarcot895: it says new accellerator only in system settings keyboard shortcuts
[16:19] <marco__> in tweak tool ive not seen those words
[16:19] <marco__> saiarcot895: : yep, tried all the expected routes... nada
[16:20] <marco__> saiarcot895: "backspace" also works to disable shortcuts in keyboard shortcuts from sys settings, no change in UTT
[16:22] <saiarcot895> marco__: http://imgur.com/FBCVmyg
[16:24] <mm12> later thanks for everthing
[16:25] <marco__> saiarcot895: mine looks the same w.o the new accellerator but thats exactly mine in system settings keyboards
[16:28] <RedDragon> can anyone help with a video issue?
[16:29] <saiarcot895> marco__: not sure then; if you've tried clicking multiple times on the keyboard shortcut in UTT, and it still doesn't ask for a new shortcut, it could be a permissions problem, but not sure
[16:29] <marco__> where can i post these screens for you?
[16:29] <saiarcot895> marco__: imgur
[16:29] <marco__> i have no accounts at places like that.  ok one sec
[16:30] <saiarcot895> marco__: it doesn't require an account
[16:30] <marco__> awwwwesome
[16:34] <krishna_> hello
[16:34] <marco__> Saiarcot895:  It wouldn't let me snap a screen in Sys Settings Keyboard Shortcuts with the selection highlihted as to see "new accellerator", but, its there on that one - - - -   http://imgur.com/ksR9jD5,3jkioDe#1    |    http://imgur.com/ksR9jD5,3jkioDe#0
[16:35] <mm12> hey
[16:35] <krishna_> hello anyone there i am new here can someone help me??
[16:35] <RedDragon> can anyone help with a low video mode problem>?<
[16:36] <saiarcot895> marco__: you have the same shortcuts I have, so it's not that then
[16:36] <marco__> but, allll those shortcuts for opening app switcher
[16:36] <marco__> theres like 15
[16:37] <saiarcot895> !nomodeset | RedDragon
[16:37] <marco__> its got to be one of those i am hitting, everythin i type is intrupted by app switcher
[16:37] <mm12> hey 928 how are you
[16:37] <krishna_> can somebody help me with this environment ?
[16:38] <gk928> hello  .everyone...noob  here...and  learning
[16:38] <Vinnie_win> How do I tell VirtualBox to load the Guest Additions ISO? Which ISO does it load? Do I just reinstall the old guest additions? Or do I have to download a new one? I'm so confused
[16:39] <rypervenche> gk928: Welcome :)
[16:39] <as2000> krishna: welcome! I'll see what I can help with
[16:39] <marco__> saiarcot895:  Something is strange here, man... I just randomly double clicked on "Start switcher for all workspaces in reverse" in UTT and it gave me the new accellerator option AND  allowed me to disable it... but, no others and I can even reenable that one.  Reboot, brb
[16:40] <gk928> thankyou  ryper
[16:40] <rypervenche> gk928: Do you have a problem that we can help you with?
[16:40] <saiarcot895> Vinnie_win: in the guest OS window, go to the Devices menu and select Install Guest Additions
[16:40] <Dr_willis> Vinnie_win,  the vbox  gui/tool/interface can download and auto mount the iso file for those i recall. i suggest checking the vbox manual at its homepage.
[16:40] <krishna_> oh thanks @as2000 u replied atleast
[16:40] <gk928> not at  the  moment...thank  you
[16:41] <as2000> krishna_: what can I help with
[16:41] <RedDragon> ubottu - I am having the dreaded 'system is running in low-graphics mode' issue
[16:42] <saiarcot895> RedDragon: ubottu is a bot; have you tried using nomodeset?
[16:43] <RedDragon> oh wow I am such a nube ...
[16:43] <RedDragon> not sure how to do that ...
[16:43] <krishna_> i am not having any prob in particular i am totally new here as2000 ! how and with what i can proceed  with  i have to learn many things
[16:44] <saiarcot895> RedDragon: when loading your computer, do you see the GRUB menu, where you choose what OS to load?
[16:45] <RedDragon> nope ...
[16:45] <saiarcot895> RedDragon: see the "How to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS (not wubi)" section at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[16:46] <RedDragon> did I mention the word nube ,,,
[16:46] <marco__> saiarcot895: ok, so somethings wrong cause like I'd explained before it randomly let me change that one but no others still.
[16:47] <saiarcot895> marco__: have you tried clicking multiple times on the other shortcuts (on the shortcuts themselves, not the names)
[16:47] <saiarcot895> RedDragon: when loading your computer, do you see the GRUB menu, where you choose what OS to load (options within a box, possibly a purple or black background)?
[16:48] <foolcool> is running starcraft and battlefield 3 in a virtualbox on a linux box at minimum settings on a very powerful computer possible
[16:49] <marco__> saiarcot895: I feel like I am the world biggest idiot - and you the worlds biggest genius.  WOW.  What a simple fix/mistake..... thank.
[16:49] <Dr_willis> foolcool,  normally games are ran with WINE, not in a vm.
[16:49] <marco__> saiarcot895: No i have to reset for changes to take exffect?
[16:49] <Dr_willis> foolcool,  vm's often lack the 3d/hardware acelleration needed for the game
[16:49] <Dr_willis> !appdb | foolcool
[16:49] <saiarcot895> marco__: I don't think you have to
[16:50] <as2000> marco_: don't be hard on yourself. it's just new and you will get the hang of it :)
[16:50] <foolcool> thamks
[16:50] <marco__> Oh, I thnk its still happening... lets see as I type here.... oh, what does "automatically expose windows" do?  Its a checkbox there.
[16:50] <acidrain> there is an issue with the 3.50.0-generic kernel on my machine. fatal sync, kernel panic. everytime i boot my machine i must use the oldest kernel
[16:51] <acidrain> its not a big deal to me. just kinda mad that even after a reformat, and software updates occured, the same issue happened
[16:51] <as2000> acidrain: what kind of cpu is this?
[16:51] <marco__> oh crap
[16:51] <acidrain> as2000, asus
[16:51] <saiarcot895> marco__: what happened?
[16:51] <marco__> saiarcot895: what does "automatically expose windows" do?  Its a checkbox.
[16:52] <saiarcot895> marco__: no idea, let me see
[16:52] <acidrain> as2000, M4A78LT-M/CM1730/DP_MB is what is written on the mb. everything is stock from the original asus casing
[16:53] <saiarcot895> marco__: it's checked on my UTT
[16:55] <saiarcot895> marco__: Controls whether the switcher exposes minimized windows.
[17:01] <RedDragon> saiarcot - purple background with low video mode warning .. but no menu ...
[17:01] <firefox67> quit
[17:02] <danieltree> I am doing some testing ...I first installed ubuntu in VirtualBox ...grub on /dev/sda and after that I installed Windows..on a separate partition..and mbr was rewriten..I put grub again on mbr...but when I update-grub it gives me an entry in the grub menu for win7 but it doesnt work..
[17:03] <mumpitze1> doesn't work how?
[17:03] <danieltree> well it doesnt boot into win7
[17:06] <mumpitze1> yes, but your description so far is simply useless. you need to give us more to work with
[17:06] <danieltree> its a dualboot setup
[17:06] <danieltree> first installed ubuntu
[17:07] <danieltree> then windows
[17:07] <danieltree> I want to be able to boot into both
[17:07] <mumpitze1> you repeat yourself. why?
[17:07] <mumpitze1> explain the actual problem
[17:07] <wheatthin> mumpitze1, he wants to dualboot and can't cause he installed windows 7 last
[17:07] <danieltree> I cannot boot into windows from grub
[17:07] <wheatthin> so he needs to fix grub
[17:08] <danieltree> sory have to go ...brb
[17:08] <mumpitze1> wheatthin: no. he wrote he reinstalled grub afterwards
[17:08] <as2000> interminal type sudo ap-get update grub
[17:08] <mumpitze1> as2000: that's not useful
[17:08] <as2000> shoot, its apt-get update grub
[17:09] <danieltree> I have to go downstairs ...but brb in 10 min
[17:09] <mumpitze1> as2000: that's useless for him. you need to read what he did more carefully: "I put grub again on mbr"
[17:09] <wheatthin> sudo update-grub I believe.. will check
[17:09] <mumpitze1> windows  will give you an error (or grub will). also we need the output of fdisk -l and grub.cfg probably
[17:09] <mumpitze1> wheatthin: please read what he wrote. he did all that
[17:09] <as2000> you can always press F8 on boot too
[17:11] <wheatthin> ahh.. he needs to pop windows cd in, and run fixboot to replace the mbr, switch which drive boots first, and then update grub
[17:11] <acidrain> as2000, the patch didnt work. same error
[17:12] <mumpitze1> wheatthin: you are writing a lot of nonsense :(
[17:12] <wheatthin> mumpitze1, no, it's not nonsense.
[17:12] <acidrain> aint no tellin man. as long as i can still use ubuntu ill keep doing it. but the ubuntu developers are making it very difficult to enjoy my stay
[17:13] <mumpitze1> wheatthin: he installed it in VBox. "grub on /dev/sda and after that I installed Windows..on a separate partition" yes: utter nonsense
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: in what way?
[17:13] <SonikkuAmerica> !ping
[17:14] <acidrain> ActionParsnip, a very poor choice in unity layout (used cinnamon). bad kernel updates which cause fatal syncing issues that dont allow me to boot. <--- those are the MAIN 2
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> mumpitze1: why? you can make a sing dual boot virtualbox instance ...
[17:14] <Dr_willis> dual booting linux/windows in vbox?
[17:14] <mumpitze1> ActionParsnip: different partition, not disk
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: not seen those myself.
[17:15] <Dr_willis> acidrain,  gnome devs now have an official 'gnome-2' look/feel part in the latest gnome releases. I imagine cinnamon will be obsolete in a year.
[17:15] <mumpitze1> Dr_willis: not very sensible, but whatever he wants
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> mumpitze1: well, yes as windows will need to be on an ntfs partition
[17:15] <acidrain> Dr_willis, but cinnamon is great. i love it. ive tried the lil gnome-2 look/feel  you speak of. its just not the same
[17:15] <Dr_willis> and its rather trivial to have 2 seperate hard drives in vbox and select what one to use.
[17:16] <acidrain> Dr_willis, are you suggesting that i create a backup of the cinnamon source so i can install it in the future?
[17:16] <wheatthin> acidrain, lol no... he's saying it will not be needed, and obsolete
[17:16] <Dr_willis> acidrain,  i imagine once the gnome shell's official gnome2 setup gets included.. it will become abndoned
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: i recommend xfce to unity haters. it is coded using gtk and gnome apps will install in the same way. plus its super light
[17:17] <rizz__> Hello everyone. I'm unable to figure out which ports I should open in my firewall to get vsftpd to work. It works with firewall disabled. Here's my vsftpd.conf http://pastebin.com/VnuUbWFJ
[17:17] <acidrain> ActionParsnip, i actually like the xfce-light DE, i have it running the newest ubuntu on an old 98 desktop. and it flipflops through controls and graphics like its running 5 quad cores
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> rizz__: 21 and 20 as ftp is a wasteful old thing and should die
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: or do what I do, openbox on its own. DEs are such a waste
[17:18] <rizz__> ActionParsnip: i dont have it in 20 and 21
[17:19] <acidrain> !openbox
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> rizz__: then 8888 and 8889. Why are you not using the standard ports?
[17:20] <rizz__> ActionParsnip: because i dont want to. i'm sorry but i dont see why that's relevant to my problem
[17:21] <acidrain> ActionParsnip, sounds like my gf wouldnt be able to handle the interface. she enjoys watching movies and listening to music. i doubt, from the sounds of it, she could even do that
[17:21] <askablys> tutitu
[17:21] <askablys> tutitu
[17:22] <Guest92940> saiarcot895: All previous issues have been resolved, thanks but now i have a new issue somehow and i cant figure out why - there are a whole slew of shortcuts everywhere. shift does a shortcut with everything and the app menu on left -  all icons have numbers on them.... ctrl alt t opens trash even tho its stil set for terminal where i see it
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: how do you figure that?
[17:23] <acidrain> ActionParsnip, "That means installing Openbox won't give you easy menu access to wallpaper options, a taskbar or system panel, or most of those other doo-dads"
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> rizz__: just a casual question. why the attitude?
[17:23] <acidrain> ActionParsnip, lol, and im serious. u know man. most people know how to use an iphone, and thats it, she is one of them people
[17:24] <acidrain> i on the other hand, use android terminal only to do all tasks. :)
[17:24] <as2000> acidrain: wife is the same way, but i'm impressed how quickly she picked Ubuntu. She refuses Windows now
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: its a bit more finickety for stuff like that. apps like tint2 and other stuff gives the other functionality like taskbar, you can use idesk for desktop icons.
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> rizz__: was a reasonable question? wasnt it?
[17:25] <acidrain> as2000, ya i made the poor decision of formatting her laptop with ubuntu 9.04 (my favorite to date), and it wouldnt open her drives, didnt show menus, or anything. cause her computer was too new. so it turned her away from linux. i failed the linux community and went into a depressive stage for at least 2 months where i wouldnt even show my name here
[17:25] <acidrain> lol
[17:26] <danieltree> I am back
[17:26] <acidrain> as2000, then had to pay a shop 200$ to put a pirated copy of win8 on her laptop, because i refuse to even have a .iso copy on my computer
[17:27] <Guest92940> saiarcot895: everything shortcut wise changed... its crazy...
[17:28] <Guest92940> saiarcot895: any idea why every app is numbered on their icon in app menu
[17:29] <as2000> acidrain: I'm sorry man. :)
[17:29] <psilo_> rizz__: `netstat -plant | grep LISTEN` might alert you to something you missed
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> rizz__: could use SFTP instead. FTP has near zero security
[17:30] <acidrain> as2000, i must say, that was almost 2yrs ago. and she still hasnt gotten a virus with no protection. so im kindly impressed with win8. but as far as looks.... might as well be unity
[17:30] <rizz__> psilo_: thanks ill have a look
[17:30] <bazhang> !ot | as2000 acidrain
[17:31] <psilo_> ActionParsnip: I see where he's coming from, even if you didn't mean it that way.  answering a question with what usually leads to "but just dont do it that way" instead of an answer is pretty annoying.  The "XY Problem" is real, yeah, but it's useless when people assume that it's ALWAYS the XY problem.
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> psilo_: reasonable question requesting a reasonable answer. Simple really.
[17:32] <RedDragon> I reverted to reinstalling ... thanks all ... laters ....
[17:32] <psilo_> ActionParsnip: it always STARTS that way.  I think he just wanted to nip that in the bud
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> psilo_: just the "i want to" would have done that
[17:33] <acidrain> ActionParsnip, what do you mean ftp almost has zero security?
[17:33] <acidrain> i think it has quite a bit...
[17:34] <as2000> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure why you recommended those ports? 20 and 21 are standard ports
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: username and password sent in clear text. unencrypted data transfer end to end
[17:34] <acidrain> ActionParsnip, as long as file permissions are set properly and user home directories are set up correctly. thats secure enough isnt it?
[17:34] <acidrain> ActionParsnip, oh i see what youre saying
[17:35] <rizz__> psilo_: hm that command just showed vsftpd on 8888 and dns which is what it's supposed to be. my guess is it has something to do with me connecting with passive mode, but I've open 50000:51000 too which is all I need to do, isn't it?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> as2000: yes. just wondered why there had been a change of port numbers etc
[17:35] <acidrain> password always showed up for me in *****'s so i assumed it was encrypted :P
[17:35] <jluc> hello
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: not the login packet sent to the server. ots only obfuscated in the client you see
[17:35] <acidrain> but ActionParsnip your telling me that ftp services dont md5 the password on the host machine, then md5 it on the client, and be sure they match? :/
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: no hashing of any sort at any point.
[17:36] <jrib> acidrain: why would it matter if they did?
[17:36] <acidrain> jrib, to obviously be like every service known to man and be a LITTLE secure about it rather than using plain text?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: yet people still use it......weird huh
[17:37] <acidrain> ActionParsnip, i agree, im changing to sftp. will the standard ftp client work with the service?
[17:37] <jrib> acidrain: I don't understand
[17:37] <jluc> Plz How do i know which theme is active now ? QTconfig says GUI style is "default config"
[17:37] <acidrain> !sftp
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: nautilus can connect to sftp
[17:37] <zipy> ext4_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 6896 not in group (block 2897613455)!
[17:37] <zipy> [67113.336905] EXT4-fs (dm-3): group descriptors corrupted! <--- does someone know how to fix this?
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> zipy: boot live cd and fsck the partition
[17:38] <jluc> Qtconfig says GUI style is "Destkop settings (default)" : which is it ?
[17:38] <acidrain> based off ubottu's simple answer, sounds like there is no gui to sftp services. thats probably why the mass of people dont use it. sounds like we need to make some :D
[17:38] <hramy> Hello, i have a problem with the last version of xampp, the .run doesn't start, can anyone help me with this issue please ? I'm on gnome-shell
[17:38] <jluc> "GUI style"  = "theme" ?
[17:39] <jrib> acidrain: there are tons of guis, including the default file manager
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: again. nautilus can connect to sftp. you can also use filezilla
[17:39] <acidrain> jrib, but what about on windows?
[17:39] <jrib> acidrain: winscp for example
[17:39] <acidrain> ActionParsnip, ya filezilla is good, thx
[17:39] <rizz__> acidrain: many, if not all modern ftp clients has support for SSL and SFTP. and a simple SSL cert will make sure that nothing is sent unencrypted
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: so is there "no gui to sftp services"?
[17:39] <rizz__> which is widely used
[17:40] <zipy> ActionParsnip, the problem is, it is luks encrypted, what path shall i fsck?
[17:40] <danieltree> ping
[17:40] <ikonia> danieltree: yes ?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> zipy: in encryptfs I have no idea. i dont use it at all
[17:40] <acidrain> rizz__, i use dftp-pro, it uses cert's. so i pretty much have a secure ftp?
[17:40] <tking> hello guys, after formatting my hard drives, can I recover files or is there any technology to open it
[17:41] <rizz__> acidrain: if you have an SSL cert on your daemon and are connecting with the secure options enabled you should be
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> tking: you can use foremost but you will need a writable partition of equal or greater size to spit files to
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> tking: probably easier to use your backups
[17:41] <acidrain> jrib, to answer your not understanding: every smart service today doesnt store any passwords in raw text, they are md5/sha1/esc... encrypted on the host machine. the client does the same hash type, then it checks to see if the hashes match
[17:42] <acidrain> rizz__, oh ok. im good then :)
[17:42] <jrib> acidrain: that scheme by itself wouldn't accomplish anything though
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[17:43] <acidrain> jrib, are you saying because of the large amount of rainbow tables we have today makes it insecure? if so, then yes. the creator of the md5 hash has even said to not use his hash anymore because of how many rainbow tables we have
[17:43] <jrib> acidrain: no, but it's offtopic here anyway.  Let's move on
[17:44] <rizz__> acidrain: i think he means that sending a hashed version unencrypted wont make a difference if someone sniffs the traffic since they can just send the same hash and get access to your account
[17:45] <acidrain> rizz__, ya good point. even if the service hashed the password anyways instead of the client, sniffing will do the trick it sounds like
[17:45] <superboot> Hi all. My acer aspire one d260 netbook has a blank screen during boot, and then comes back on after it's at the login screen for about 15 seconds. Any hints?
[17:46] <tking> ActionParsnip, actually, if i have a laptop that authorities want to inspect, i am wondering if formating it with Ubuntu bootable or gparted would prevent anyone from get eve a bit of old data
[17:46] <acidrain> superboot, my machine does this sometimes. i just boot it up and go make a sandwich. then again.... i only reboot about once a year
[17:46] <mixxxs> ciao
[17:46] <mixxxs> !list
[17:46] <rizz__> acidrain: yes since if the client hashes it the hash will actually be your password and if the server hashes it the same thing applies. either way, sniffing would give an attacker an oppurtunity to send your password and login and gain access
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> tking: could use dban or dd to zero off the drive
[17:47] <zipy> ActionParsnip, does fsck take long on 1tb?
[17:47] <zipy> cuz i see now only running nummbers
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> zipy: depends on drive speed etc. Just run it overnight and you'll be ok
[17:47] <khildin> n00b question: can lucid get a kernel update to 3.2 or 3.8? Or should I keep it on the standard 2.6?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> khildin: are you using a graphical desktop and Firefox web browser?
[17:48] <khildin> no graphical desktop
[17:48] <khildin> on the server I use....
[17:48] <superboot> acidrain: haha, well. this is a laptop.
[17:49] <khildin> on my laptop I do have a graphical desktop and FF
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> khildin: you could install the debs but we cannot support the kernel if it is not the one for your release
[17:49] <khildin> ok... thnx... I'll leave it on 2.6 then...
[17:50] <acidrain> ugh. ok, i need to install flash player, i want to do the apt method, but when chosing a program to use, software center is not available. i know i can just apt-get or go directly to the software center, but i dont want to have to do this in the future, i wnat ot just click it and it happen
[17:52] <zipy> ActionParsnip, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74418992/Bildschirmfoto%20vom%202013-07-14%2019%3A49%3A05.png here a screenshot, is this normal? im a little scared -.-
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: chrome comes with flash by default
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> zipy: sorry. no idea
[17:53] <acidrain> ActionPartition but im a firefox fan
[17:53] <docvell> zipy: what were you doing when that happened?
[17:53] <docvell> might shed some light into it
[17:53] <zipy> fschk -C -V
[17:53] <k1l_> fsck on mounted devices?
[17:53] <zipy> on a encrypted partition
[17:53] <zipy> no
[17:53] <zipy> only luksopen
[17:54] <zipy> sudo fsck -C -V /dev/mapper/crypt
[17:54] <jluc> Plz How do i know which theme is active now ?
[17:54] <docvell> hmm...it said it could cause damage on my partition so I decided to select N
[17:56] <atpa8a> hello
[17:56] <hramy> Guys, i have a problem with the last version of xampp, the .run doesn't start, can anyone help me with this issue please ?
[17:56] <sysRPL> can someone hlep me please? when i turn on my 64bit 13.04 ubuntu laptop i get a message saying it is waiting for the network, and then after a while it says waiting 60 seconds for netowkr ... eventually i give up and press escape and i get the ubuntu desktop, but with no sound hardware or wireless network access ... and at a term my username is myuser@(none):~$ ... what is wrong with my laptop?
[17:56] <bazhang> !xampp | hramy
[17:56] <atpa8a> is this a good channel for help with cloud installation?
[17:57] <k1l_> hramy: just use the packages that ubuntu ships
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> sysRPL, This a fresh install?
[17:58] <sysRPL> no, ive used it for a while fine ... this just started happening
[17:58] <tnli> 'oi, what might be the problem when I get Don't know how to create partitions this partition table of type `(null)' (udisks-error-quark, 0) -error after trying to partition some free space on my drive? This with ubuntu 13.4
[17:58] <sysRPL> and i can boot to another install by changing the drive and everything works okay
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> sysRPL, Any info thats leads to this conundrum?
[17:59] <sysRPL> wilee-nilee: i don't know what else to describe
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> sysRPL, Sure, any backups or images of the working OS?
[18:01] <sysRPL> wilee-nilee: no ... i can get to the desktop. it's just that i have that weird prompt when i open a terminal window and my network/sound doen't work
[18:02] <HappyNewYear13> where do i get firefox support, no one answers me in #firefox
[18:03] <ikonia> define firefox help
[18:03] <acidrain> HappyNewYear13, pm me with what issues youa re having
[18:03] <HappyNewYear13> thanks acidrain
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> acidrain, Help is what the channel is for.
[18:03] <ikonia> please don't pm people for help - support is dealt with in the main window
[18:03] <acidrain> wilee-nilee, admin will flame me with ubottu saying im offtopic
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> sysRPL, Not sure myself, sorry.
[18:04] <ikonia> no, that's why we've asked "what's the problem"
[18:04] <ikonia> if it's not for this channel we can point it off to the right channel
[18:04] <acidrain> ikonia, he just msg me. it is off topic
[18:05] <OerHeks> acidrain, now somebody with the same issue cannot have the benefit of the help here.
[18:06] <acidrain> OerHeks, here is his question: HappyNewYear13> i'm trying to change the character encoding to another but when i restart firefox (version 22) it goes back to the previous setting. how do i make it last?
[18:07] <HappyNewYear13> then i asked him if he wanted to cyber
[18:07] <acidrain> which i said yes to. Connecting...
[18:09] <ikonia> HappyNewYear13: acidrain guys, grow up, not in this channel please.
[18:09] <OerHeks> If character encoding setting is not working, check if autodetect is unselected > http://askubuntu.com/questions/267913/why-does-firefox-display-an-instead-of-an-e
[18:10] <OerHeks> and the coding is matching the coding of the webpage, ofcourse.
[18:10] <acidrain> ikonia, see this is why i always get ban. because when the channel is dead. and no one is talking. u refuse to have some fun and humor in your life. during the prime of this channel's busy hours, i do not even speak if its not a positive helpful comment. ikonia you should try it, may see u happy  man. im only caring for u
[18:11] <ikonia> acidrain: there are other channels for messing around in, please take it to there
[18:11] <HappyNewYear13> thanks OerHeks. yes, i have autodetect unselected, so it must be the website
[18:11] <chaz68> Anybody good at EFI using rEFIt on MacBook?
[18:11] <OerHeks> HappyNewYear13, check with 'view page source' what coding is used
[18:12] <chaz68> Got Mac OSX installed and Windows 8 installed.  Going for the triple boot...
[18:13] <jluc> does unity rely on compiz or is it possible to use unity without using compiz ?
[18:13] <k1l_> jluc: yes its a compiz plugin
[18:14] <k1l_> jluc: but that will be changed with the new unity next release which will be based on MIR
[18:14] <jluc> ok
[18:14] <OerHeks> chaz68, did you check the mactel pages ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[18:14] <jluc> i planned to uninstall compiz but i like the way to launch an app mentionning its first letters
[18:15] <jluc> so i guess i have to keep compiz
[18:15] <jluc> just making it as light as possible
[18:15] <k1l_> jluc: yep. dont uninstall compiz if you want to use unity :)
[18:16] <chaz68> OerHeks:  I will check those pages.  EFI is really confusing sometimes...
[18:17] <afief> I upgraded my 64bit 11.10 to 12.04, now steam and zsnes (among other things) stopped working, they complain about missing the 32bit libGL.so.1. Anybody know where I can get that? (I use the Intel graphics driver)
[18:20] <chaz68> OerHeks:  That MacTel page has to be really old...  They don't even list 12.04, 12.10, 13.04.   My understanding is that these are the only ones supporting EFI / UEFI.
[18:23] <silare> I'm trying to work on Vala, but I won't have Internet next week. Where / How do I download the contents of http://www.valadoc.org/ so I have offline docs?
[18:24] <OerHeks> chaz68, macbookpro is updated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro else see this EFI page is updated 6/13 http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/index.html
[18:25] <Konata> silare, you could use a crawler
[18:25] <Konata> and create an offline copy
[18:25] <Konata> but ask the owner of that site for permission before you start doing that
[18:25] <Konata> lol
[18:25] <silare> Konata: I've been playing with `wget`, though I haven't had so much luck with it... IT's downloaded a lot of unnecessary stuff. xD And I haven't been able to reach the owner. :X
[18:26] <silare> I'm more looking to see if they have some nice ZIP archive online like Java might. ^_^;
[18:26] <Konata> there's a java tool
[18:26] <Konata> again
[18:26] <silare> A Java tool? o.O
[18:26] <Konata> Yeah
[18:26] <Konata> there's a tool i used once that runs as a jar
[18:26] <Konata> or something
[18:26] <silare> Do you remember the name of it? :o
[18:26] <bekks> jdownloader? :)
[18:27] <bekks> Basically, wget is the tool of choice, since it can download an entire site.
[18:27] <bekks> But you really should ask for permission before crawling that site.
[18:27] <Konata> Yeah
[18:27] <silare> Yea... x_x Which I think might be hard. For some reason I was also wondering if the Vala docs were stored offline in an installation too.
[18:27] <Konata> because it uses tons of bandwidth if the site is huge
[18:28] <silare> Like how I think Android's SDK stores their docs in `docs`.
[18:28] <silare> And the site is huge. xD So that would be a bad thing...
[18:29] <bekks> silare: Then dont crawl, but ask the owner on how to get an offline copy.
[18:29] <silare> bekks: Might be a better idea...
[18:30] <maxkollide> Hi, does anyone here know anything about the new MAAS service?
[18:31] <moes> I have a launcher that tries to open a file rather than the program...how do I change the command on the launcher
[18:31] <bekks> moes: Whats "MAAS"?
[18:31] <OerHeks> metal as a service.http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/orchestration
[18:32] <karlmh> ok, i've got the normal ubuntu desktop running (12.04 LTS), and I've started gnome-panel and put the side bar on auto-hide. I really like this setup except for 1 thing, how can i keep windows from maximizing where their menu is up on my top panel? So they would maximize like they would in gnome ?
[18:32] <moes> bekks, I have no idea It is not my question
[18:33] <bekks> moes: Sorry tab failure :)
[18:35] <knob> Guys, how can I install ffmpeg on a ubuntu installation I have?
[18:35] <knob> I am not running a GUI, everything is done via ssh
[18:35] <sasha|> O hai
[18:35] <th0r> knob, sudo apt-get install ffmpeg?
[18:35] <sasha|> I was just wondering, how easy would it be to set up wireshark to sniff packets that get passed through the same network switch that it is connected to?
[18:36] <knob> th0r, trying that now
[18:36] <knob> thanks!
[18:36] <bekks> sasha|: Very easy.
[18:37] <sasha|> bekks: doable in under 20 minutes before top gear starts?
[18:37] <bekks> sasha|: For me - yes. For you - I dont know. :)
[18:37] <th0r> bekks, sasha| I think it will only work if the NIC permits promiscuous mode. Not all NICs do
[18:37] <bekks> th0r: Correct.
[18:38] <sasha|> it's a simple net gear switch, no control over it as far as I can tell
[18:38] <sasha|> however I do have a DD-WRT router further down the line
[18:38] <bekks> sasha|: The switch is irrelevant at that point.
[18:39] <chaz68> Didn't know there was a MAC version of Ubuntu.  Thanks for the link OerHeks.
[18:39] <irec> the switch would need a port mirrored... otherwise you would only hear broadcast traffic
[18:39] <sasha|> I'm looking for http requests
[18:40] <sasha|> basically it's a IPTV box, which can record streams but then it locks them
[18:40] <sasha|> when I open the files on my computer, which are MPEG2, they are encrypted
[18:40] <sasha|> so I'm looking to find this encryption key
[18:40] <irec> or you would need to crash mac table and turn it into a hub
[18:40] <bekks> sasha|: So they are encrypted, and sniffing packets will be useless.
[18:40] <Idiko> Hello.
[18:40] <Idiko> This is Idiko.
[18:41] <Idiko> :)
[18:41] <Idiko> Guys, how can I run vb6 programs thru mono on Ubuntu?
[18:41] <sasha|> bekks: I was talking with a technician from my ISP, and he said that it is possible if you capture the key
[18:41] <Idiko> Anybody here?
[18:41] <Idiko> sasha|, hello.
[18:41] <sasha|> Idiko: hello
[18:42] <Idiko> sasha|: never trust ISP's.
[18:42] <sasha|> ok
[18:42] <Idiko> sasha|: I have hacked into a few ISPs and I noticed that they monitor your packets.
[18:42] <Idiko> they know your facebook passwords.
[18:42] <Idiko> therefore, putting your trust on a ISP is riskful.
[18:42] <sasha|> Idiko: really
[18:42] <Idiko> yes, sasha|
[18:42] <Idiko> They are teamed up with NSA.
[18:42] <Pumpkin-> ...
[18:43] <sasha|> how did they know our passwords?
[18:43] <Idiko> 99% of American ISP's are working accordingly with the NSA.
[18:43] <Idiko> they monitor your packets, you silly.
[18:43] <Idiko> when you login, the packets are sent back to the ISP.
[18:43] <sasha|> ok, and how do they know the password?
[18:43] <Idiko> and those packets, contain your passwords and goodies.
[18:43] <Idiko> lemme tell you in this way
[18:43] <Idiko> a packet is like a big bag
[18:43] <Idiko> full of passwords..etc
[18:43] <th0r> ah....now it is the paranoia channel
[18:44] <Idiko> and that bag is sent to the ISP.
[18:44] <th0r> much more entertaining
[18:44] <Idiko> th0r; yes, I agree.
[18:44] <sasha|> right, so you hacked into the ISP and saw all these packets being stored?
[18:44] <Idiko> yes, sasha|
[18:44] <Idiko> I am Snowden.
[18:44] <Idiko> :)
[18:44] <Pumpkin-> it is entertaining, but sadly not very useful
[18:44] <sasha|> ok
[18:44] <sasha|> and inside the packets was your password in plain text?
[18:44] <bazhang> !ot
[18:44] <Idiko> sasha|, all I know is that they monitor your packets.
[18:45] <Idiko> bazhang; yes, I know.
[18:45] <Idiko> I am Snowden btw :)
[18:45] <bazhang> lets stop this
[18:45] <snowden> okay sorry guys
[18:45] <moes> I have a launcher that tries to open a file rather than the program...how do I change the command on the launcher...12.04lts
[18:45] <edwardsnowden> moes; I do not know.
[18:46] <BluesKaj> Idiko, and we;re so important that the NSA is gonna monitor a bunch of guys chatting on irc
[18:46] <bazhang> edwardsnowden, then dont answer
[18:46] <sasha|> Ok, so you're saying that ISPs record your packets? I'm pretty sure that all of your https traffic is encrypted and your password is compared against a hash
[18:46] <edwardsnowden> BluesKaj; I worked with NSA, google "edward snowden"
[18:46] <Sarcastic> Does anyone know why http://pastebin.com/inBvwZJ2 doesn't affect my screen resolution
[18:46] <bazhang> sasha|, thats not on topic here
[18:47] <sasha|> they would need to do a mitm attack which would be very obvious to have your password
[18:47] <bazhang> try ##security
[18:47] <sasha|> bazhang: good call. So how can I set up the promiscuous mode?
[18:48] <Sarcastic> I've got a problem with my resolution
[18:48] <Sarcastic> it's fixed at the default ubuntu one
[18:48] <Sarcastic> i'm using a radeon 5450 gpu but have had no luck installing drivers
[18:48] <Sarcastic> so trying to configure xorg but it's not changing anything.
[18:59] <moes> I have a launcher that tries to open a file rather than the program...how do I change the command on the launcher..12.04 lts
[18:59] <Sarcastic> Is anyone here good with Xorg.conf ?
[18:59] <deanrock0> hi, which email client do you recommend?
[18:59] <aguitel> any clues why panoramio photos in google earth are blank frames ?
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> sarcastic: a little
[18:59] <th0r> moes, what is the program and what does the launcher say now?
[19:00] <cor_r> Sarcastic, just ask
[19:00] <cor_r> deanrock0, thunder bird or claws mail
[19:00] <jluc> i use thunderbird and liket it deanrock0
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> deanrock0: thunderbird is default installed. I use webmail
[19:00] <Sarcastic> I did ask before: I can't get my resolution sorted with xorg.conf, here is the code: http://pastebin.com/inBvwZJ2
[19:00] <cor_r> s/thunderbird
[19:01] <deanrock0> is thunderbird still being developed? last time i heard that they stopped developing it
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> sarcastic: try adding a dpi line in the file
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> deanrock0  source? I sill use thunderbird
[19:03] <irec> deanrock0: latest release v.17.0.7, released: June 25, 2013
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> deanrock0: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/17.0.6/releasenotes/
[19:04] <deanrock0> i googled it and wikipedia says that mozilla offers only security and maintenance updates, feature development is now responsibility of the community
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> deanrock0: whoever told you that is making stuff up and/or has no idea what they are talking about
[19:04] <Sarcastic> ActionParsnip: How would I be able to do that
[19:04] <deanrock0> i guess i misunderstood it last time i heard about it
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> deanrock0: yeah. wikipedia over the mozilla website....i know whch Id trust
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> sarcastic: seek and ye shall find
[19:06] <Sarcastic> ActionParsnip: Is it the display size bit? # in millimeters ?
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> sarcastic: here is mine: http://db.tt/cVuXAqdu
[19:10] <moes> Thor, The program is Moneydance and it list the file numbers from the saved files
[19:11] <Thor> moes: what?
[19:11] <midnightninja> Does anyone know if the windows bootmanager is needed to boot into windows from grub?  my windows bootmanager is heavily borked from easybcd
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> midnightninja: i believe grub will boot windows on its own. You can chroot to the installed OS from livecd and reinstate grub. you dont need easybcd
[19:13] <peppnil> ciao
[19:13] <peppnil> !list
[19:13] <moes> Thor, The program is Moneydance a third party financial manager..The launcher shows the file rather than the program..I can open it with /opt/Moneydance/moneydance
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> midnightninja: there is a guide at omgubuntu called: sticking it to grub
[19:13] <Thor> moes: You mean to highlight someone else perhaps?
[19:14] <th0r> moes, if you can launch the program from a terminal with that command, just change the launcher to read that...../opt/Money.......
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> moes: if you make a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications it will show in Dash
[19:14] <th0r> moes, you might also tell the launcher to start in that directory
[19:14] <Taar779> Hello, when I run xrandr the HDMI port doesn't appear. Does anyone know why it's not there? I'm sure there is some package I'm missing but after a few hours or googling I haven't come up with a solution.
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> taar779: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[19:15] <moes> thor/that is what I am try to do change the launcher command
[19:15] <harris> how do i pastebin something from the terminal
[19:15] <harris> without opening browser
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> harris: install pastebinit
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> harris  [command]
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> harris  [command] | pastebinit
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> haris: then pipe the text to pastebinit
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> (new keyboard, not used to it yes)
[19:16] <th0r> moes, if you are running the ubuntu desktop you change the file  /usr/share/applications/MoneyManager.desktop
[19:16] <Thor> moes: I got no idea what you are talking about, you perhaps ment to highlight th0r
[19:16] <Thor> moes: 0 not o
[19:16] <th0r> Thor, yup.....a case of case
[19:16] <Taar779> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 13.04 \n
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> harris: eg: grep -i time /etc/default/grub | pastebinit
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> taar779: and does the system have a make and model?
[19:17] <harris> hey its action parsnip
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> harris: the same :-)
[19:18] <harris> whats up
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> harris: for real laziness pipe to xclip after that
[19:18] <midnightninja> to clarify my point about what happened, i am dual booting, and used easybcd from windows.  My ubuntu partition is not functional yet, but my goal for now is to restore the windows mbr
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> midnightninja: then ask in ##windows
[19:19] <olsonea> hi folks, i'm trying to mount an external usb hard drive, but it's not automounting. i'm not sure where to poke to make it work. any takers?
[19:19] <midnightninja> okay, i figured since grub is acting up as well, id ask in here
[19:19] <Taar779> ActionParsnip, Asus N76 laptop which has optimus so I'm thinking that might be the issue but I'm not sure.
[19:19] <JughashviliKoba> Good evening!
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> olsonea: what file system is the partition (you dont mount drives)
[19:19] <Sarcastic> ActionParsnip: sorry, had to do something. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Display_Size_and_DPI <-- this was what I searched and found
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> taar779: why did you not put all that in the initial question. Ratherthan me having to ask?
[19:20] <sw> olsonea: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB could be of interest.
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> sarcastic: my file has the dpi line set. give it a go
[19:20] <olsonea> ActionParsnip: not sure. a friend gave it to me, and i know she used to have a mac, but now she's on windows 7, so it could be anything
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> midnightninja, So can you boot windows at all, and is this W8?
[19:20] <midnightninja> I cannot boot windows or ubuntu
[19:20] <Sarcastic> ActionParsnip: Is that your own xorg or was that made for me?
[19:20] <midnightninja> i have a 1300$ brick
[19:21] <midnightninja> and it is w8
[19:21] <Sarcastic> ActionParsnip: Oh I used a website and found that mine is 96x96 :)
[19:21] <olsonea> sw: thanks. read that article, but it's not in /media
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> olsonea: i bet they didnt safe remove the drive when they finished with it. Id put it in a windows box and xhkdsk it. Then safe remove it as you should and I bet its ok
[19:21] <Taar779> ActionParsnip, never crossed my mind that maybe I should.
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> midnightninja, For future reference the W8 most likely UEFI is like really important info.
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> sarcastic: its my own.
[19:22] <midnightninja> gotcha
[19:22] <Sarcastic> ActionParsnip: If I recall correctly, is DPMS the energy star option?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> taar779: please do in future. Have you got bumblebee installed?
[19:22] <olsonea> ActionParsnip: the only windows-based machines i have are virtual :/
[19:22] <knob> th0r, your suggestion did it.  Thanks =)
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> olsonea: if you have it connected and run: sudo fdisk -l
[19:22] <Sarcastic> Actionparsnip: Oh, found this: As of Xorg 1.8 DPMS is auto detected and enabled if ACPI is also enabled at kernel runtime.
[19:22] <knob> th0r, re: the ffmpeg install
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> olsonea: is it ntfs based?
[19:23] <olsonea> ActionParsnip: it very well may be
[19:23] <Jom> Hello
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> sarcastic: yes. you can turn it off if you want too
[19:23] <moes> th0r..Under properties it shows bin/sh" /opt.Moneydance/moneydance" and open correctly but at the launcher it show the file name
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> midnightninja, I would ask in ##windows on getting the windows boot back, uefi is a bit tricky I would not mess with the 3rd party booter, which may have been in response to this predicament.
[19:23] <midnightninja> ah okay
[19:23] <olsonea> ActionParsnip: sudo fdisk -l does not list the drive when connected
[19:23] <Sarcastic> ActionParsnip: In front of modeline, there's a # - should I remove that?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> olsonea: bad drive use causes issues. mac users are far from smart so Im betting they never safe removed the storage before unpluggong it physically
[19:24] <olsonea> heh
[19:24] <olsonea> could be
[19:24] <midnightninja> any chance that anyone know how to restore uefi and windows boot manager to default settings while removing grub?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> sarcastic: its free to try
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> midnightninja: did you try the omgubuntu guide I suggested
[19:25] <shankstaBytes> KDE apps actually look pretty good in Unity
[19:25] <Sarcastic> ActionParsnip: Is sudo stop lightdm sufficient or do I need to completely reboot my system?
[19:25] <Taar779> ActionParsnip, yes I have bumblebee installed and working.
[19:25] <Jom> I'm having some problems with Thunar, there are no icons, and it's not appearing to have the gtk-3.0 theme; both of which I set using LXappearance.
[19:25] <Jom> Any suggestions?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> sarcastic: i use: killall -u $USER
[19:25] <olsonea> ActionParsnip: thanks for your time
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> taar779: then i have no idea. maybe others can advise
[19:26] <trism> Jom: thunar is not gtk3 (yet)
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> trism: aww man. thunar needs some love
[19:27] <shankstaBytes> so what kind of performance hit would i take using dolphin and gwen inside Unity?
[19:27] <Sarcastic_> ActionParsnip: After running that command and relogging back in, nothing changed
[19:27] <shankstaBytes> isn't the required libraries for QT included by default?
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> shankstabytes: none. you'll load more libs to ram but otherwise youll be fine
[19:28] <midnightninja> ActionParsnip: found it, and watching now
[19:28] <chaz68> Is it true you can only run 10.04 on MacBook 1,1 versions?  I just booted the 13.04 MAC version ubuntu and it seems to be running OK though wireless is disabled.
[19:28] <shankstaBytes> ActionParsnip: cool
[19:28] <shankstaBytes> ActionParsnip: i got plenty of that
[19:29] <Taar779> ActionParsnip, Do you if there are drivers for HDMI that I could be missing?
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> taar779: i have no experience of optimus. i think it is a nasty hack
[19:29] <chaz68> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook?action=show&redirect=Macbook
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> taar779: are there any youtube vids on how it can be setup maybe
[19:30] <Sarcastic_> ActionParsnip: If it helps, here's my xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/sc7PBT21
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> chaz68: if it runs then who cares
[19:31] <chaz68> Kind of what I think, too...  Just like they tell you on Apple that you can't run Windows 8 on this hardware...
[19:31] <chaz68> (Running Win 8 and Mac OS/X now... though I will probably have to play with some drivers it looks like.)
[19:31] <Sarcastic_> chaz68, don't think anyone would want to run Windows 8 anyways
[19:32] <Sarcastic_> chaz68, well not me anyway :P
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> sarcastic: my manager loves it
[19:32] <chaz68> Doing this setup for a buddy with a MacBook.
[19:32] <chaz68> Don't use Windows 8 a whole lot myself.
[19:32] <Sarcastic_> ActionParsnip: Windows 7 ftw... of course Ubuntu is better when they get better support for GPU's :P
[19:33] <midnightninja> another question, is there a good manner of fixing the efi invalid path error in grub? ive tried boot repair  but it doesnt help
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> midnightninja, Get this app in the link, run just the bootinfo summary and save the url, post it here for help, and really a thread at the ubuntu forums would be smart as well, with that url in it. bootrepair does repairs, however I would only run it if directed to do so, your fix may be a cli approach for various reasons. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:33] <chaz68> seeking the elusive triple boot OS/X, Win8, and Ubuntu setup...
[19:33] <Sarcastic_> Oh and also notice the _ at the end of my name now... so I get notified :P
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> sarcastic: depends on needs really. Never had an issue wiyh GPU support innLinux. Games run great
[19:33] <Taar779> ActionParsnip, xrandr doesn't show the hdmi port which means it's not being detected. I don't think bumblebee has a setting to turn on hdmi.
[19:33] <midnightninja> alright will do
[19:33] <Sarcastic_> Actionparsnip: From your xorg you have a laptop
[19:34] <Sarcastic_> May I ask what it is?
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> sarcastic: no its an Asus P1-AH2 Pundit
[19:35] <Sarcastic_> ActionParsnip: Oh, it says in the xorg it has Intel M chipset which is for laptops :?
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> sarcastic: ahhh thats one I made someone
[19:35] <Sarcastic_> :p
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> sarcastic: let me pastebin mine
[19:35] <Sarcastic_> I really need to sort out this resolution problem :
[19:35] <Sarcastic_> :|
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> sarcastic: http://db.tt/OIWmeeGt
[19:37] <Sarcastic_> Fair enough
[19:38] <NitaChan> Is it just me or does anyone else get kernel crash every time you try to mount a F2FS-partition?
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> NitaChan  wipefs, scroll down -->
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=165705
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> NitaChan  it's for arch, but maybe it's useful
[19:40] <ispirto> do you know how i can use regular connection for torrents and vpn for evrything else on ubuntu
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> NitaChan, With a quick glance I see in this arch wiki a reference to a kernel module. This might applicable with the other link. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/F2fs
[19:42] <NitaChan> Nope, neither of those are applicable
[19:42] <Sarcasm> Anyone know what's wrong with my Xorg? Here's a log http://pastebin.com/sc7PBT21
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> NitaChan, askubuntu has some threads have you looked there.
[19:44] <NitaChan> Not yet, no
[19:44] <NitaChan> I just popped in here to check if anyone else gets a kernel crash
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> NitaChan, I have never messed with that setup, so just passing possibilities on. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=F2FS
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> i had never heard of f2fs before now
[19:45] <NitaChan> It's a filesystem designed for flash-media
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> me neither, MonkeyDust. yeah I was seeing that NitaChan
[19:46] <NitaChan> From what I can tell there's a bug in the Ubuntu-kernel. Can't say if there's one in the official one.
[19:47] <olsonea> ActionParsnip: thought i'd follow up to let you know it turned out to be a bad cable :)
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> olsonea: dowwwh
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> nitachan: whats wrong with ext2 ?
[19:49] <datmaniac> how can i save the output to a file from a command that the output is constant?
[19:49] <NitaChan> No wear-levelling, for one.
[19:49] <NitaChan> Also, ext2 is not designed to take advantage of flash-media's specific attributes, it's geared for spinning media.
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> NitaChan, Thing is that modern SSD have the same wear as a disc now so one can get a bit OCD on protecting it.
[19:50] <NitaChan> There's a benchmark up on Phoronix, F2FS beats the other tested filesystems quite handily
[19:50] <NitaChan> wilee-nilee: I am not using an SSD, I am using a knock-off SDHC-card. Those often come without wear-levelling.
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> NitaChan, I rest my case. ;)
[19:52] <chaz68> how big of a partition should the grub bootloader have?
[19:52] <CookieMonster_> ActionParsnip: The monitor wouldn't affect any of this would it?
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> chaz68, A boot partition is rarely needed.
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> cookiemonster: affect what?
[19:53] <chaz68> OK... Should I "continue without bootloader on my MacBook install?
[19:53] <Dr_willis> a bootloader is differnt then a 'bootloader partition'
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> chaz68, macbook not sure have you seen the wiki?
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> !mac
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> chaz68, there is one I have seen here.
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> nitachan: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_310fs_fourway&num=4
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> nitachan: its actually slower in some cases. id have stuck with ext4.....
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> nitachan: it seems to excel accessing lots of small files quickly but for the average user opening and manipulating files it doesnt really offer much. I dont get how you think this is advantageous or "beats" other filesystems
[19:57] <CookieMonster_> Actionparsnip: It's me, Sarcastic in disguise :O
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> cookiemonster: gotcha
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> cookiemonster: edid should be used in an ideal world. it should report its abilities
[19:58] <shankstaBytes> awesome did you guys know you can actually enable KDE Plasma Widgets on Unity
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> shankstaBytes  sounds a bit overkill
[19:59] <shankstaBytes> MonkeyDust: KDE has a ton of good stuff
[20:00] <shankstaBytes> my computer is so fast I could probably run all the DEs out at the same time and it would be nothing
[20:00] <BluesKaj> shankstaBytes, sounds like you should just install kde and kubuntu-desktop and forget unity
[20:00] <shankstaBytes> nah im gonna blur the lines
[20:00] <shankstaBytes> merge everything
[20:01] <BluesKaj> redundancy
[20:01] <shankstaBytes> each has good parts i just want them all
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> shankstabytes: if you can find the command to launch the plasma widgets then sure..why not
[20:01] <shankstaBytes> ActionParsnip: thats the attitude :D
[20:03] <shankstaBytes> what if i compiled unity without the launcher
[20:04] <shankstaBytes> you think people would want that as a PPA?
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> shankstabytes: its just an addon for compiz.....
[20:04] <shankstaBytes> is it
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> shankstabytes: yes. nothing more
[20:05] <CookieMonster_> Guys how do I make a xrandr script ?
[20:06] <bekks> CookieMonster_: What do you want your script to do?
[20:06] <CookieMonster_> set screen resolution
[20:07] <CookieMonster_> It's after failed attempts to edit xorg
[20:07] <bekks> CookieMonster_: How did they fail when you did what exactly?
[20:08] <CookieMonster_> This is my current xorg, I'm fixed at 1024x768.
[20:08] <CookieMonster_> http://pastebin.com/inBvwZJ2
[20:08] <bekks> CookieMonster_: That doesnt answer my question. :)
[20:09] <CookieMonster_> I've been trying to get out of the fixed resolution, using xorg - it's not affecting anything. I've asked ActionParsnip
[20:10] <tenguix> anyone know where I could find decent audio support for oracle/java
[20:10] <bekks> CookieMonster_: Your commented modeline in your config will not work. You cannot set a Vertical Refresh rate of 55-75Hz, and then use 85.86Hz.
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> tenguix  start by explaining what went wrong
[20:11] <CookieMonster_> What do you recommend I do :S - is that the same as the 60HZ advertised figure?
[20:11] <tenguix> nothing has gone wrong, but I'm taking a processing course and I've managed to scrape by without having any audio work at all, using those java libraries.
[20:12] <shankstaBytes> ActionParsnip: if you disable the Unity plugin it also disabled the top bar
[20:12] <shankstaBytes> bummer
[20:12] <shankstaBytes> i think you would need to compile it without the launcher
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> shankstabytes: then install a new panel like lxpanel or tint2
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> shankstabytes: or even gnome-panel ....imagine
[20:15] <shankstaBytes> ya
[20:15] <CookieMonster_> bekks do I change that to 60Hz ?
[20:15] <tenguix> the pde (processing IDE) that everything runs from is pretty bogus, but its cross-platform, and it seems linux is more immune to its bugs than anything else. the documentation strongly urges Oracle, claims no support for free jdk/jres.
[20:16] <bekks> CookieMonster_: No. Comment out that VertRefresh line if your display supports 86Hz. If not, you cannot use your desired resolution.
[20:16] <tenguix> unfortunately, I can't really tell whats going on, because we all know how oracle is :) so I can't dick around with the code and make it work.
[20:16] <CookieMonster_> bekks: Do I remove the horizontal part as well
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> tenguix  try #java or ##java
[20:16] <bekks> CookieMonster_: Only if your display supports that. Did you check that already?
[20:17] <tenguix> MonkeyDust: thanks
[20:18] <tenguix> MonkeyDust: invite-only?
[20:19] <CookieMonster_> bekks My monitor says it's running at 45Hz horizontal and 60 vertical. Does that affect anything?
[20:19] <bekks> CookieMonster_: Thats not answering my question.
[20:19] <bekks> CookieMonster_: Did you check the specs of your display already - did you check the displays manual, to get the specs?
[20:20] <CookieMonster_> bekks I looked at the website, I'll see if I can get a manual
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> tenguix  probably to avoid span and trolling, guess you have to !register first
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> spam*
[20:20] <tenguix> bleh. I have to use irc more often.
[20:20] <CookieMonster_> Bekks: Checking now
[20:21] <tenguix> I've just been guessing on all the syntax haha.
[20:22] <CookieMonster_> Bekks: The manufacture give no information on it
[20:22] <bekks> CookieMonster_: So which make and model is it exactly?
[20:22] <CookieMonster_> bekks: Acer S191HQL
[20:23] <CookieMonster_> bekks: I was working off this: http://www.gadgetsguru.com/acer-s191hql-185''-led-lcd-monitor-lowest-price-spec-cheap-sale-india-10684.aspx
[20:24] <bekks> CookieMonster_: Thats not the manufacturers website. You have an Acer device, not a gadgetsguru one.
[20:24] <CookieMonster_> bekks: Like I said, that's the only information I could find
[20:25] <tenguix> anyone know how to crack a bios password?
[20:26] <kostkon> tenguix, just remove the battery from the motherboard
[20:26] <bekks> CookieMonster_: Then why do I easily find a manual on Acer's website? :)
[20:26] <jsonperl> any reason anyone can think that occasionally all processors would drop to 0% usage for a minute or two
[20:26] <jsonperl> ubuntu 12.04 32 bit
[20:26] <bekks> jsonperl: The reason is "nothing to do".
[20:27] <jsonperl> ha
[20:27] <jsonperl> what if they're supposed to be "working real hard"
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> tenguix, This a placed password or you don't know the access from a manufacturer setup?
[20:27] <bekks> jsonperl: Then "your computer knows better".
[20:27] <jsonperl> HT quad core... 14 server instances running of a pretty hefty server
[20:28] <jsonperl> and everything just kinda haults for no apparent reason
[20:28] <jsonperl> or any hints on where to look to find out why?
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> jsonperl, This a ubuntu server?
[20:28] <tenguix> wilee-nilee: mine
[20:29] <jsonperl> yes, its ubuntu
[20:29] <jsonperl> 12.04
[20:29] <jsonperl> 32 bit
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> jsonperl, #ubuntu-server may be helpful
[20:29] <CookieMonster_> bekks: I forgot to say I did look in the manual too. Have fun looking :)
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> tenguix, No reset the bios apps from the manufacturer maybe?
[20:30] <CookieMonster_> bekks: I wonder where else they might put any information
[20:31] <Guest49373> j ubuntu-br
[20:31] <CookieMonster_> bekks: You never know, gadgetgurus may be the dominating monitor brand of the world who own Acer?
[20:31] <tenguix> wilee-nilee: I'm trying to upgrade the bios anyways, do you know if there's a linux way?
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> tenguix, Many bios upgrades have a bootable iso.
[20:31] <tenguix> wilee-nilee: this one doesnt
[20:32] <bekks> CookieMonster_: The information is contained in the manual. I am currently looking at it. So you can and will find it too.
[20:32] <tenguix> wilee-nilee: computer came preinstalled with windows 7 - needless to say, it sucked hard, then it uninstalled its own bootloader upon upgrading itself. terrible. terrible platform. i have an HP635 - standard laptop, decent graphics card. in terms of bios upgrades and such, its all for windows.
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> tenguix, I have run them that way and from windows, I have seen web info on linux use with specific bios's, you will probably have to mine for that like the rest of us at times. ;)
[20:33] <paullus> hello all ;)
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> tenguix, The service pack needed a bootloader reload for some, easy fix really.
[20:33] <CookieMonster_> bekks: Standard Timing Table?
[20:34] <CookieMonster_> bekks: So I'm assuming that's what I put in the modeline
[20:34] <tenguix> wilee-nilee: you willing to boss me around for a minute, some baby steps?
[20:34] <bekks> CookieMonster_: Nope. Just specify the desired resolution with the supported refresh rate.
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> tenguix, Not sure if I can help, as far as the bios, the bootloader would be my area.
[20:35] <CookieMonster_> bekks: "1368x768_60.00" 85.86 1368 1440 1584 1800 768 769 772 795 -HSync +Vsync <-- do I change the 85.86 to 60?
[20:35] <SierraAR> I need to grant a usergroup permissions to upload/write files to a specific directory via SFTP. I'd thought chown -hR groupname /path/to/dir would work, but it doesn't appear so.
[20:35] <SierraAR> The user I'm logging into is in the group I used chown with
[20:35] <bekks> CookieMonster_: Forget the modeline.
[20:35] <CookieMonster_> bekks: Just the prefered bit?
[20:36] <CookieMonster_> Option "PreferredMode" "1366x768"
[20:36] <CookieMonster_> ?
[20:36] <tenguix> wilee-nilee: is there a way i can use grub2 as a bios drop-in, the way some people can run efi like a secondary bios
[20:36] <bekks> CookieMonster_: That would be a first approach.
[20:37] <CookieMonster_> Right done that.
[20:37] <tenguix> wilee-nilee: seeing as how there is actually a grub2-bios package... ? i'm not entirely sure where to go from there, because grub is running wonderfully as is :)
[20:37] <CookieMonster_> I also edited the bit in screen I think it was
[20:37] <CookieMonster_> yeah.
[20:38] <CookieMonster_> Should I sudo stop lightdm it ?
[20:38] <CookieMonster_> bekks: I also deleted the modeline
[20:38] <bekks> CookieMonster_: You have to restart your X server.
[20:39] <danielboston26> hi
[20:39] <CookieMonster_> bekks: So restart lightdm. OK
[20:39] <daniry> im having a very strange issue
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> tenguix, I just know msdos mbr stuff and reloading it and purge and repair of grub and rebulid bcd.
[20:40] <CookieMonster__> bekks: You're a genius. It worked.
[20:40] <SierraAR> I see my problem actually.. The group itself doesn't have write perms
[20:40] <bekks> CookieMonster__: You're welcome. :)
[20:40] <tenguix> wilee-nilee: is there any way to write to the smbios filesystem
[20:40] <daniry> when i t ype it for some reason the front screen both losses focus and sometimes it goes back and types over what i just wrote
[20:40] <daniry> anyone have any idea why t does this?
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> tenguix, No idea.
[20:41] <daniry> im using unbuntu 13.04 on xfce 4.0
[20:41] <daniry> ubuntu(
[20:41] <CookieMonster__> bekks: Taken so long just to do that. If I could I'd send you money. But I don't have money. Instead you can have a cookie. http://freeinternetcookies.com/
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> tenguix, I have to imagine you are not the only one this has happened to, and that there are options to be found.
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> daniry: is the OS fully updated?
[20:42] <daniry> yes
[20:42] <bekks> CookieMonster__: As long as you dont tell my wife - I'll take the cookies :P
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> cookiemonster__: now backup the file :-P
[20:42] <tenguix> wilee-nilee: yes, youre right. ive just been looking for about a year now, and no answers.
[20:42] <CookieMonster__> ActionParsnip: And thanks to you, too :P
[20:43] <daniry> ActionParsnip:  OS is updated
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> cookiemonster__: no worries. glad you got the gold
[20:43] <daniry> ActionParsnip: it seems like its a mouse issue
[20:43] <tenguix> wilee-nilee: well thanks, its good to know that it CAN be done.
[20:43] <daniry> but im not touching the house
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> daniry: is it a clean install or did you upgrade from Oneiric?
[20:43] <tenguix> wilee-nilee: might just have to be something I designate as an ongoing project instead of a problem :)
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> tenguix, So you still have windows and it boots, I can't tell.
[20:44] <CookieMonster__> ActionParsnip: Even if it does take months and months, as well as a few failed startups and a dead Ubuntu partition for the months :P
[20:44] <daniry> ActionParsnip: clean install
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> daniry: quantal...sorry
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> daniry: thats good. lots easier
[20:44] <tenguix> wilee-nilee: no, i ran the recovery utility and it made things worse!
[20:44] <daniry> ActionParsnip: actually i installed xfce ontop of unity
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> daniry: does the system have a make and model
[20:44] <daniry> i removed unity first
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> daniry: thats fine. unity isnt even loaded.
[20:45] <daniry> ActionParsnip: you mean what computer am i using?
[20:45] <tenguix> wilee-nilee: windows sucks pretty hard. i used to be windows man, but now i actually like apple products more. and thats disgusting.
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> daniry: yes
[20:45] <CookieMonster__> Bekks: Now the next thing is getting AMD drivers to work for my Radeon HD 5450 xD
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> tenguix, I would get the oem set from the manufacturer, I just image all OS's and have gotten the oem's as well never know when ine might like to see.
[20:45] <daniry> ActionParsnip: its an asus q500a
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> sell*
[20:45] <bekks> CookieMonster__: That should have been the first thing, not the second.
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> daniry: are you using a usb mouse or touchpad?
[20:45] <daniry> ActionParsnip: touchpad
[20:46] <Bumptious> I switched last year.. there was quite awhile where software that ran on os x was quite limited compared to windows
[20:46] <Bumptious> it's not as much the case now
[20:46] <CookieMonster__> bekks: Trying to install the AMD drivers was why I resorted to xorg.conf - I had a countless number of broken systems :|
[20:46] <tenguix> wilee-nilee: i didn't quite understand the last half
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> daniry: do you have the latest BIOS
[20:46] <CookieMonster__> Bekks: I'll also upload the xorg to dropbox or something so I can't lose it :P
[20:46] <bekks> CookieMonster__: The first step should have been to install the correct driver.
[20:47] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: tried fglrx-12?
[20:47] <CookieMonster__> tenguix: Probably
[20:47] <Bumptious> i had tried to switch to os x about 4 times in the last 10 years
[20:47] <CookieMonster__> I was on the IRC channel ages ago and no one knew what was wrong. I don't really want to risk it atm :|
[20:48] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: I'm running it now, radeon 6310. first fglrx driver that's given me performance as good as windows, graphically, and with no bugs upon booting.
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> tenguix, Basically I set myself up for failure response, I clone the OS, I also get the oem's, as the sale market is a bit finicky on wanting MS in places. In other words tools to fix what ever can happen, you should at least have the recovery disc W7 burns.
[20:48] <CookieMonster__> tenguix: You're tempting me... but I don't want to risk it. But I do have my xorg sorted in case.
[20:49] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: I ruined every install I've ever done because of the old drivers
[20:49] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: Literally, every one of them came to an end because of the broken link groups, etc. from the fglrx nonsense, trying to repair my xorg manually
[20:50] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: If you run out of options, start over and install that one if you're gonna install any of them. for now, if it works, keep it.
[20:50] <CookieMonster__> tenguix:  I've tried most of the AMD driver options and none of them worked for me. Not sure if I should give fglrx-12 a go
[20:51] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: But it doesnt really matter anymore cause kernel 3.10 has native support almost as good as amd's drivers themselves
[20:51] <CookieMonster__> tenguix: So would it make much of a difference?
[20:51] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: Don't, if you can't code your way out of it. I've learned, but I'm not a hundred percent, to say the least.
[20:51] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: Can't say. You have a different card :)
[20:51] <CookieMonster__> tenguix: OK, I won't risk it :P
[20:51] <daniry> ActionParsnip: i think so
[20:52] <daniry> ActionParsnip: this is a windows 8 computer so it has uefi
[20:52] <daniry> ActionParsnip: could that be the issue?
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> daniry: dont think so. are there any bugs reported?
[20:53] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: go to the amd site and check each fglrx release for your card.
[20:53] <tenguix> they have all of them listed somewhere...
[20:53] <tenguix> tons and tons of whitepapers outlining each card they test.
[20:53] <CookieMonster__> bekks: Do you think I should try installing amd drivers or should i just stay with the open source ones
[20:53] <tenguix> of course, the driver is still partially proprietar.
[20:54] <bekks> CookieMonster__: Its your decision, not mine. I cant tell you anything about AMD, since I'm never ever going to use AMD for graphics :)
[20:54] <daniry> ActionParsnip: im not sure
[20:54] <TauNeutrino> What's the difference between a login shell and a none login shell?
[20:54] <daniry> ActionParsnip: i haven't reported a bug
[20:55] <CookieMonster__> bekks: OK, I'll just stay with open source. I've had too much hassle with AMD drivers for linux. Besides, I have my windows dual boot.
[20:55] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: What osversion are you running
[20:56] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: nevermind, you made a good choice haha
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> daniry: does a usb mouse work ok?
[20:56] <CookieMonster__> tenguix: Ubuntu 12.10 but I'm going to upgrade it now the problem's fixed, and Windows 7
[20:56] <daniry> ActionParsnip: haven't tried it
[20:56] <daniry> ActionParsnip: don't have one
[20:56] <tenguix> Yeah, i've got 12.10 too
[20:56] <chaz68> Interesting spin.  Couldn't install with Mac-based 13.04 on triple boot setup.  But EFI boot from regular 13.04 setup went smooth as silk.  I used the bootx64.efi from the rEFIt menu.
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> daniry: i suggest you report a bug
[20:57] <CookieMonster__> tenguix: Might wait til 13.10 to upgrade actually.
[20:57] <chaz68> what is the MAC 13.04 ISO supposed to provide that the regular 13.04 does not?
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> chaz68: just an fyi. Raring is only supported til Jan 2014
[20:57] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: thats what I'm doing
[20:57] <CookieMonster__> tenguix: Been keeping an eye on it with OMGUbuntu and it looks quite good :)
[20:58] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: it really does. linus is proud of it.
[20:58] <CookieMonster__> tenguix: and when 14.04 comes out, I won't need xorg.conf. I read the comments and they said they're gunna print their xorg.conf and hang it on the wall.
[20:58] <chaz68> Thanks.  I presume the upgrade path within the OS will be maintained though.  Presume 14.04 next year will be a 3-5 year LTS release.
[20:59] <reactor16> i have managed to install fluxbox + tightvnc , all is okey except when i connect to fluxbox using vnc it not lunch application from ?
[20:59] <reactor16> any idea why fluxbox menu not running applications ?
[20:59] <CookieMonster__> Tenguix: You also seen how much attention Ubuntu touch is getting? Verizon are part of the advisory team :P
[20:59] <CookieMonster__> Tenguix: Might try the beta versions on my nexus 7.
[20:59] <karfes> \leave
[20:59] <chaz68> Anybody using a good MAC trackpad setup / driver for 13.04?
[20:59] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: I'm really not too stoked about the way ubuntu has devolved
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> chaz68: yes you can upgrade to 13.10 in October then to the LTS which, as you say will be 5 years supported on desktop and server
[21:00] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: the reason I'm sticking with my 12.10 for now is because I can still run xfce with xfconf, no gconf. dont need timestamps. I can just unpack a tar from my homefolder and everything is automaticaly configured, even on live disks :)
[21:00] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: what good is linux if you aren't a picky bastard about everything, right?
[21:00] <reactor16> any idea !
[21:00] <CookieMonster__> tenguix: Lol, I understood hardly any of that :/
[21:01] <CookieMonster__> reactor16: Lunch?
[21:01] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: Thats okay, you probably have a beautiful desktop environment.
[21:01] <reactor16> it won't run from menu
[21:01] <reactor16> nothing work except theme change .
[21:02] <reactor16> i tried to remove and install it many times
[21:02] <CookieMonster__> Tenguix: I can run Ubuntu on my homemade computer but not on my old 512mb laptop which is why I was so eager to fix the problem before :P
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> reactor16: what do you connect to achieve via VNC?
[21:02] <CookieMonster__> Tenguix: But it must be said, elementary OS is REALLY quick
[21:02] <reactor16> i connect to my ubuntu via tighvncserver
[21:02] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: I'm happy on a console, most of the time.
[21:02] <CookieMonster__> Tenguix: ah
[21:02] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: Right now I'm running fbterm on a console, it looks like X.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> reactor16: yes but to do what?
[21:03] <reactor16> i have vnc connect
[21:03] <CookieMonster__> tenguix: errr... OK :D
[21:03] <reactor16> ip:1
[21:03] <reactor16> i followed this tutorial
[21:03] <reactor16> http://left404.com/2012/08/30/vnc-on-an-ubuntu-vps/
[21:03] <tenguix> CookieMonster__: Sorry. Maybe I should stop assuming everybody is as wierd about random terminology as I am.
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> reactor16: what are you connecting to the server to achieve. Why do you use VNC?
[21:04] <reactor16> to use gui of flexbox
[21:04] <CookieMonster__> tenguix: I haven't got a clue about desktop environents and stuff except LXDE, XFCE, GNOME, UNITY, KDE and stuff like that
[21:04] <reactor16> i want to use firefox
[21:04] <CookieMonster__> tenguix: I thought I was quite good at computers :'(
[21:04] <CookieMonster__> tenguix: But I have no idea about coding and stuff - I'm useless at all of that
[21:04] <tenguix> CookieMonster, xfce is what I was talking about before. so you do know! cheer up.
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> reactor16: why not use X forwarding? VNC has zero security. You do knkw that right
[21:05] <reactor16> ActionParsnip, can you forward me to an tutorial
[21:05] <reactor16> i'm something new to linux
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> reactor16: why does it need a tutorual. Just connect to the ssh with: ssh -X user@server
[21:06] <tenguix> reactor16: are you trying to show somebody else your desktop
[21:06] <reactor16> no only me
[21:06] <tenguix> reactor16: so then you dont need vnc.
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> reactor16: when you run the browser it will be running on the server but show on the client. Much like citrix
[21:07] <CookieMonster__> Reactor16: Do you need remote access? Do you want to control your computer from your phone/tablet?
[21:07] <admin-unal> slm
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> reactor16: surely if you can connect to a vps you have web access. why not use the locally installed web browser.
[21:07] <reactor16> no just want to use firefox and download some stuff
[21:07] <tenguix> reactor16: okay. so you dont need vnc.
[21:07] <admin-unal> hi
[21:07] <tenguix> reactor16: what exactly are you having issues with, regarding your display
[21:07] <tenguix> reactor16: or, your desktop.
[21:08] <reactor16> lol
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> reactor16: if you want to download stuff then install something like uget or fatrat or jdownloader and use that to manage downloads....
[21:08] <reactor16> i have slow internet connection at home
[21:08] <CookieMonster__> What exactly is he trying to do?
[21:08] <reactor16> so i have vps running ubuntu
[21:08] <reactor16> and want to download some files from uploads
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> reactor16: vnc is fat and slow and runs very badly over slow connections
[21:09] <CookieMonster__> Is VPS basically virtual box?
[21:09] <reactor16> its kvm
[21:09] <tenguix> reactor16: you would be better off just making an ubuntu iso
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> cookiemonster__: its a hosted server by a provider
[21:10] <CookieMonster__> ActionParsnip: Ahh right. Well this is beginning to confuse me :S
[21:10] <tenguix> reactor16: if you want to use a graphical interface, why not just make a bootable ubuntu flashdrive?
[21:10] <CookieMonster__> Actionparsnip: I'm a bit confused as to what he's trying to do
[21:10] <reactor16> my main problem is slow internet speed
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> cookiemonster__: or virtualization. apparently.
[21:10] <reactor16> that why i use vps with 10mb/s
[21:11] <CookieMonster__> Reactor16: If you've got slow internet I don't think another server will affect yours
[21:11] <reactor16> i have all distro on my computer
[21:11] <reactor16> some time there are uploads that not support continue download
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> reactor16: you'll stil need the data from the vps to your pc down the slow link.....you are just adding an extra hop
[21:11] <reactor16> it must be downloaded one time
[21:12] <reactor16> the data i download from vps is not problem i wait for it
[21:12] <reactor16> ;)
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> reactor16: just ssh and you can use wget with urls for files.
[21:12] <CookieMonster__> Reactor16: A possible option is to move to Kansas and enjoy Google Fiber. https://fiber.google.com/about/
[21:12] <reactor16> ActionParsnip, wget not work with all uploadsites
[21:13] <tenguix> reactor16: use the -U switch
[21:13] <Pinkamena_D> Can anyone recommend what the best software raid is? its a server so has to be commandline
[21:13] <reactor16> and also cli not support javascript as browser ;))
[21:13] <tenguix> reactor16: 'wget -U "Firefox/5.0" [somewebsite]'
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> reactor16: then web browse with the forwarded x session and files will be pulled to the vps
[21:13] <tenguix> reactor16: you pretend to be a fancy browser.
[21:13] <reactor16> tenguix, what about javascript and counter
[21:14] <CookieMonster__> tenguix: This is completely out of my league, I'll just leave now :P
[21:14] <tenguix> reactor16: well, if the interface you are pretending to have supports javascript, your page will be sent back with java on it.
[21:14] <reactor16> using forwared x
[21:14] <tenguix> reactor16: like, if you want to get the embedded content in the pages, you can run a recursive download.
[21:15] <tenguix> reactor16: you dont need to forward it to a server, because you can just pretend to be a real browser! :)
[21:15] <harris> ActionParsnip, you here
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> harris: aye
[21:15] <harris> my laptop has a built in fan why isnt it on but my laptops very hot
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> harris: no idea. not enough cats?
[21:16] <harris> cats?
[21:16] <tenguix> harris: cats
[21:16] <harris> whats that
[21:17] <tenguix> ,':3
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> harris: in other words. i have no idea. why not ask the channel instead if just me
[21:17] <harris> because you know everything
[21:18] <harris> and your skills are amazing
[21:18] <tenguix> what version you running
[21:18] <harris> 13.04
[21:18] <tenguix> hmmm.
[21:18] <tenguix> graphics card?
[21:18] <harris> idk
[21:19] <tenguix> harris: 'sudo dmidecode -t processor'
[21:20] <harris> 	Type: Central Processor
[21:23] <tenguix> harris: sorry.
[21:23] <tenguix> harris: 'sudo dmidecode -t processor |& grep "manufacturer"'
[21:23] <SierraAR> Is it possible to install a .deb package from the commandline/ssh?
[21:24] <kostkon> SierraAR, sudo dpkg -i xxx.deb
[21:24] <ruffles> Guys! I need help. I had troubles installing Ubuntu 13.04 on my Dell XPS 14 notebook so I googled a solution and found "sudo dmraid -E -r /dev/sda". It fixed my problem and I could get Ubuntu installed. How can I revert this? I can't enable Intel Rapid Boot from BIOS now.
[21:24] <SierraAR> kostkon: Thanks
[21:25] <holstein> ruffles: might not be albe to do both.. can you just live without "rapid boot"? its a laptop, correct?
[21:26] <ruffles> holstein, actually i would like to remove ubuntu and come back to windows 7
[21:26] <holstein> ruffles: go for it
[21:26] <holstein> ruffles: you'll want to ask in a windows venue about recovering the MBR, if that is still the term used for the boot loader
[21:27] <ruffles> holstein, I know how to get windows back. All I need to know is how can I revert the dmraid command I did before
[21:28] <holstein> ruffles: where did you get it?
[21:29] <ruffles> holstein, i found this solution online for I couldn't get ubuntu installed. It looks like there was some sort of fake raid thing and that dmraid -rE /dev/sda disabled it.
[21:29] <holstein> ruffles: where did you get it?
[21:31] <ruffles> holstein, what? this command syntax? apparently from a dell forum
[21:31] <holstein> ruffles: from what source did you aquire the command that you ran that you would like to revert the chagnes?
[21:33] <ruffles> holstein, i can't remember. i believe i got it from dell forum
[21:34] <ruffles> or maybe askubuntu
[21:34] <holstein> ruffles: confirm that.. the volunteers here, nor ubuntu or canonnical are responsible for having run that command, so, i would like to see it.. and if it were me, i would ask the source how to revert
[21:35] <Ihsan> Hello, It's me again! :-) I have a question about screen resolutions. Is there a way to change the resolution of the terminal that comes up with CTRL+ALT+F1/2/3 etc.? And what is the name of that terminal?
[21:35] <holstein> !tty | Ihsan
[21:36] <holstein> though, that is not the "best" term..
[21:36] <ruffles> holstein, alright. thanks for your help. i think i'll google a little bit more
[21:36] <ruffles> holstein, i believe i got it from here http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/software-os/f/3525/t/19458199.aspx
[21:37] <holstein> ruffles: check it out, and let us know
[21:37] <Ihsan> Oh okay, thanks for the name. But my real problem is that the screen resolution is too small. I normally use 1920*1080 resolution but the TTY screen is something like 640x480, the fonts are way too big. How can I change that?
[21:37] <sasha|> Yo, I have an issue with Filezilla
[21:37] <sasha|> it goes for like a minute at full speed, then it stops for another minute or two
[21:38] <sasha|> and then it slowly goes back to speed
[21:38] <holstein> Ihsan: you can use a terminal emulator in your gui.. gnome-terminal, etc
[21:38] <holstein> Ihsan: the last link in the info i gave you is 18:39 < Dorky> c#m7 bm7 f#m7 am7
[21:38] <holstein> Ihsan: sorry..
[21:38] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution
[21:38] <holstein> ^^
[21:38] <numberto> Ubuntu 13.04 does not mount cd
[21:39] <Ihsan> Yes, I have that, but I want to change the resolution of that, do you know how?
[21:39] <holstein> numberto: does for me.. whats the issue? all CD's? try other cd's and test the cd on other hardware
[21:39] <holstein> Ihsan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution here is how, friend. can you open that link?
[21:40] <Ihsan> Thank you!
[21:40] <holstein> Ihsan: try and read the links the volunteers share..
[21:44] <stux> hi, anybody familiar here with installing ufw on ubuntu server?
[21:44] <holstein> stux: sudo apt-get install ufw
[21:47] <stux> holstein, thanks.  I've installed ufw on ubuntu 11.10 server and added some rules, however when i ran "ufw enable" I get the error "ERROR: problem running ufw-init
[21:47] <stux> " and the firewall seems to drop all packets incoming and outgoing
[21:48] <holstein> !11.10
[21:48] <holstein> stux: you should grab 12.04 for support
[21:48] <stux> searching for the error on google only reveals some potential bugs that are over a year old
[21:48] <holstein> stux: sure.. the OS is EOL.. suppport for 11.10 is no longer, so the bugs will be over a year old, and not touched
[21:49] <holstein> stux: sudo ufw enable should work.. could be anything with EOL versions
[21:50] <stux> oh, this whole time i thought it was ubuntu server but it just looks like a stripped down version of ubuntu
[21:50] <holstein> stux: ubuntuserver *is* ubuntu
[21:50] <stux> unfortunately that was the latest version of ubuntu that came with my VPS...
[21:50] <Dr_willis> VPS's can often do very very weird things..
[21:50] <holstein> stux: 10.04 is still supported for the server
[21:51] <holstein> stux: you can always ask them for support, since they are responsible for giving you an outdated version.. that is really just one firewall option anyways
[21:52] <stux> holstein, yeah, I tried iptables but had even more issues so i was hoping ufw would make the configuration simpler
[21:52] <holstein> stux: it does.. but there are others still
[21:52] <stux> I'll have to check with support, i'd rather not have to reinstall the OS but in the long run that may be the better option...
[21:53] <holstein> stux: i would ask them to give you 12.04.. or get 10.04 at least
[21:53] <holstein> stux: that OS is EOL.. its not supported. the vulerabilities are your reponsibility to patch
[21:54] <bfig> how can I remove postgres-xc
[21:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> hallo, don't suppose anyone knows of a very simple image editor along the lines of paint.exe for windows?
[21:54] <bfig> omfg help please :(
[21:54] <BlueEagle> !patience | bfig
[21:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> with png support, if possible :D
[21:55] <holstein> ntzrmtthihu777: http://pinta-project.com/
[21:55] <holstein> !info pinta
[21:55] <BlueEagle> bfig: Did you try the software manager or `apt-get remove postgres-xc` ?
[21:55] <bfig> ok i just found a way to remove it C_C
[21:55] <bfig> basically borking the dpkg cleanup thing files .prerm
[21:56] <admin-unal> hi
[21:56] <stux> holstein, yeah, I was under the misguided impression that it was a supported server version instead.  At the very least one of the first things I did iirc was a dist-upgrade, but i dunno if that would cover it all
[21:56] <bfig> why is postgresql a thing? Y_Y
[21:56] <BlueEagle> bfig: Very good.
[21:57] <holstein> stux: it will not work, since the repos are down.. there are no sources for that operating system any longer, unless the VPS is providing them, in which case, it is not ubuntu anymore, and its up to them to support you
[21:57] <stux> holstein, ah, I see... I didn't know that
[21:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> le sigh. neither linux-image-generic-lts-quantal or raring works with fglrx or bcmwl on my machine :/
[21:57] <stux> then i'll work on getting the dist upgraded, thanks for the advice
[21:57] <admin-unal> slm
[21:57] <holstein> ntzrmtthihu777: ?
[21:58] <holstein> stux: or, downgrade to 10.04.. that is an LTS that is still supported
[21:58] <holstein> !10.04
[21:59] <holstein> ntzrmtthihu777: did you install and try pinta ?
[22:00] <moses> I have this directory that I want to let all users read write and execute, I want every file created in this directory to have these permissions for all personell that use this directory weather to run a program, anything.  Is this possible?
[22:00] <CookieMonster_> bekks: The screen resolution has turned back to normal after I restarted
[22:01] <midnightninja> can anyone help me remove grub? my problem is on a uefi windows 8 laptop-I could not get ubuntu to start, and accidently removed windows mbr.  In trying to restore it, I wiped out grub partially, and am left only booting into grub rescue, no matter what i try.  Any thoughts?
[22:01] <irec> moses: chmod 777 -R
[22:01] <BlueEagle> moses: Which file system? And are we talking local or network users, if the latter, how is it shared?
[22:01] <moses> these users connect via ssh
[22:02] <moses> and the file system they access is on the server
[22:02] <Droopsta915> hello. how can i change my group name? i cant find it online.
[22:02] <moses> irec: that is not working actually
[22:02] <BlackDalek> Hey... recently I've started getting error during boot up of laptop - something like "Error trying to read or write outside of HD0; Grub Rescue>". This happens about 8 times out of 10 when starting up. If I try continually rebooting, it eventually goes away and loads as normal.
[22:02] <holstein> midnightninja: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:02] <BlueEagle> moses: And which filesystem is it? XFS? NTFS? FAT? EXT?
[22:02] <midnightninja> holstein: can i access bootrepair from a live usb?
[22:03] <moses> BlueEagle: how do i tell?
[22:03] <holstein> midnightninja: those instructions include how to use a live CD.. can you open the link i gave you?
[22:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> midnightninja: yep. it won't stay installed after a reboot, but you can install it and use it during the session
[22:03] <CookieMonster_> Guys changes to my xorg.conf aren't taking place
[22:03] <midnightninja> can I use the boot-repair disk?
[22:03] <BlueEagle> moses: pfff... `mount` will list all mounted filesystems.
[22:03] <holstein> CookieMonster_: are you putting it in the proper place?
[22:03] <stux> holstein, I think this VPS may provide some leeway in what i can install, but we'll see
[22:03] <midnightninja> or should I go through the ubuntu software?
[22:04] <holstein> midnightninja: you can use a live CD, just as you asked.. and install the suggested application
[22:04] <CookieMonster_> holstein: It's in /etc/X11/
[22:04] <midnightninja> hmm..okay let me try
[22:04] <BlueEagle> moses: ...and by the way, how did not `mount -R 777` work?
[22:04] <moses> i didnt try that
[22:04] <moses> actually
[22:05] <BlueEagle> moses: sorry, that was `chmod -R 777`. How did that not work?
[22:05] <CookieMonster_> holstein: Would xorg.conf_backup make a difference? It's in the same directory
[22:05] <holstein> CookieMonster_: that wont be read
[22:05] <moses> BlueEagle: when we run this program the outputs are read only
[22:05] <moses> BlueEagle: in othr words it works 1 time then doesnt work again
[22:05] <holstein> CookieMonster_: it will need to be /ect/X11/xorg.conf .. and it will need to be "valid"
[22:06] <moses> does anyone happen to know what group the ifort compiler is in?
[22:06] <BlueEagle> moses: I see. Well, if you set the permissions on the directory, then it should inherit to new files too I think.
[22:06] <BlueEagle> moses: so `chmod 777 .`
[22:06] <BlueEagle> (when in the correct directory)
[22:06] <CookieMonster_> It's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you're saying that the /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup won't make a difference. Here's my current xorg.conf --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5875578/
[22:08] <moses> is that recursive for all inclusive directories?
[22:09] <moses> BlueEagle: what did that do exactly?
[22:12] <BlueEagle> moses: man chmod
[22:12] <CookieMonster__> I don't know exactly what I'm doing wrong. The screen resolution worked last time I restarted lightdm but now it's back to normal.
[22:12] <CookieMonster__> Can anyone help me?
[22:12] <BlueEagle> moses: Always read the manual for commands that you are not familiar with, or you could compromize your system.
[22:12] <BlackDalek> Recently I've started getting error during boot up of laptop - something like "Error trying to read or write outside of HD0; Grub Rescue>". This happens about 8 times out of 10 when starting up.
[22:12] <CookieMonster__> I had help from bekks before
[22:12] <BlueEagle> moses: That being said, giving everyone access to execute anything anywhere on the server is not neccessarily a good thing.
[22:13] <holstein> BlackDalek: i would test the hardware
[22:13] <Rome> okay, need help and clarification please.  ~$ crontab -e
[22:13] <Rome> crontabs/testn3t/: fdopen: Permission denied
[22:14] <irec> moses: sorry, that will recursively change all permissions to rwx for the indicated directory/files and sub-files/directories.
[22:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> holstein: just checked it out, seems just about what I need, thank you.
[22:14] <holstein> ntzrmtthihu777: cheers
[22:14] <irec> you need to specify the directory at the end
[22:14] <Rome>  How do i fix this permanently.. and im guessthis is why my services are starting and under root priveledges
[22:14] <moses> BlueEagle: there are only 2 of us
[22:14] <moses> and one is my boss
[22:15] <Rome> anyone?
[22:15] <CookieMonster__> bekks: You here?
[22:15] <BlueEagle> moses: Then you should place both of you in a group and give the group those permissions. If a service is compromized by a security hole that allows it to log in then it will not have those permissions, and that can be the difference between loss of all data and just public data.
[22:16] <BlueEagle> !sudo | Rome
[22:16] <BlueEagle> Rome: You will need super cow powers to edit the global crontab
[22:16] <moses> BlueEagle: ok so i will attempt to do that now
[22:16] <Dr_willis> Rome,  services normally run as root. or spawn/switch to their own specific user
[22:17] <moses> groups shows the groups right? can i see what the groups are fro?
[22:17] <Rome> BlueEagle : I understand that, but if i have to use sudo, then that means cron is owned by ROOT. Which in turns means when it starts a process, its gonna start it as root!!!(I dont want that) because then my .db ends up being owned by ROOT!
[22:17] <Dr_willis> Rome,  thats not totally correct.. the crontab file is a system file and thus oned by root..
[22:18] <Dr_willis> Rome,  a specific service can change to a different user, or you can spawn it as a dioffernt user via 'su' i belive
[22:18] <CookieMonster__> OK, I'm off for now. I'll need to see if I can fix this issue tomorrow
[22:18] <CookieMonster__> :(
[22:18] <BlueEagle> Rome: Did you try `sudo crontab -u username -e`?
[22:19] <moses> can i view what the groups do in ubuntu?
[22:19] <Rome> No i didnt .
[22:19] <moses> can i view the group members?
[22:19] <Rome>  as i dont know whats that means
[22:19] <BlueEagle> Rome: man crontab
[22:19] <BlueEagle> Rome: It's in the manual. ;)
[22:19] <Rome>  ok
[22:19] <Rome>  lemme check it out
[22:19] <Nuclearnadal> does  the  fork and exec are used to create user defined processes too? Like if i am opening a music player  then how its  process will be created?
[22:19] <Rome>  be back if i get stuck again
[22:21] <SunStar> having an issue with my card reader.   when ever i want to use it, i have to first reboot into windows, insert the card and let windows install the drivers. the SD card wont work in linux until windows installs the USB mass storage device driver. (every time on any card.)
[22:21] <SunStar> any ideas?
[22:21] <Dr_willis> SunStar,  determine the exact chipset of the reader, and how its connected, and check the forums and askubuntu.com for others with the same isue/bug reports.
[22:22] <Dr_willis> SunStar,  ive seen quirky things with some built in readers.
[22:22] <Rome> dam!
[22:22] <Dr_willis> Had some netbook issues with the sd card readers ages ago. not tried them lately
[22:23] <th0r> Dr_willis, funny you should mention that. I have an sd reader in my netbook...it worked fine until I needed it about two weeks ago. Might have something to do with the move from Ubuntu to Debian about that time.
[22:25] <Dr_willis> had some quirky kernel issues with my old netbook. Not really noticed it with my newernetbook. I dont use it much any more. :) Tablet does what i need.
[22:26] <admin-unal> hi
[22:26] <Urchin[emacs]> why does dosbox window in ubuntu insist on running in a 16:10 aspect ratio?
[22:26] <th0r> Ditto
[22:28] <Urchin[emacs]> it deforms everything
[22:28] <moses> ok i made a group and put all users who will be using the directory in that grou
[22:28] <moses> p
[22:28] <ProfElm> Hey guys, I'm trying to uninstall a dual boot Xubuntu but I can't seem to. I removed everything per http://askubuntu.com/a/152841
[22:28] <moses> now how do i give that group full r/w/x access  to that directory and all directories inside of it?
[22:28] <ProfElm> I get a Error no such partition > grub
[22:29] <ProfElm> However, if I press f12 before boot and select Windows from the menu, it boots up just fine.
[22:29] <ProfElm> Advice?
[22:29] <Dr_willis> you want just a windows system?
[22:29] <ProfElm> Yeah.
[22:30] <Dr_willis> have windows reinstall its bootlooader on the hd you are booting, would be my guess.
[22:30] <Dr_willis> that will remove grub
[22:30] <moses> how do you use chmod on a group?
[22:31] <Rome> Okay.. How come it made more sense when yall say it than when i read it.. I read this before,  guess it didnt make sense to me ..
[22:31] <irec> moses: the second 7 in 777 is for group...so make sure the second digit is 7, the first and last should stay the same.
[22:31] <Rome>  Now after yall told me , it made more sense
[22:32] <moses> irec: I mean how to a point to a specific group to give access to?
[22:32] <moses> I want to remove full access to the directory and give full access to a group
[22:33] <moses> hmm how do you set a group to a directory
[22:34] <Dr_willis> !permissions
[22:35] <irec> chgrp group_name file/directory
[22:35] <Rome> Thank you BlueEagle
[22:35] <irec> that will change group ownership, then set the permissions on group octet
[22:39] <moses> chgrp -R fortran home/research/
[22:39] <moses> why isnt that working
[22:39] <Dr_willis> use the full path perhaps?
[22:39] <Dr_willis> so it dosent depened on your current directory
[22:40] <Learningg> is there any hacking chanel ?
[22:40] <moses> yeah i used it
[22:40] <Learningg> could you tell me the name of the chanel
[22:40] <OerHeks> !alis
[22:41] <Learningg> !alis hacking
[22:41] <Dr_willis> 'hacking' is a rather broad term.
[22:41] <Learningg> !alis hack
[22:41] <rwols> hax?
[22:41] <Learningg> !alis hax
[22:41] <Learningg> nothing
[22:41] <Dr_willis> ! stuff is BOT triggers..   msg the alis service bot.
[22:41] <Dr_willis> reread what ubottu  said.
[22:41] <Dr_willis>  "/msg alis help list"
[22:42] <Learningg> Sorry, I don't know anything about alis hax hacking or hack
[22:42] <OerHeks>  /msg alis list hacking trees
[22:42] <moses> where do you put in -r in chmod?
[22:42] <rwols> Learningg: are you serious?
[22:42] <Learningg> !alis list hacking trees
[22:42] <rwols> moses: after chmod
[22:42] <Learningg> lol
[22:42] <Dr_willis> Learningg,  and if you notice what the bot said,., its /msg  not !alis
[22:42] <Learningg> check out my blog
[22:42] <TheLordOfTime> Learningg:  no.
[22:42] <Learningg> http://internet-exploiter.blogspot.pt/
[22:42] <TheLordOfTime> stop advertising randomly
[22:43] <Learningg> ok
[22:43] <Dr_willis> I dont think i will find much of use on a random blog.
[22:43] <rwols> what is it that you want to learn about hacking?
[22:43] <Learningg> sorry
[22:43] <Learningg> i want to know people about that like hacking as much as myself
[22:43] <TheLordOfTime> well you're in the wrong channel
[22:43] <moses> I tried to do chmod -R uog-rwx /dir/ then chmod -R g+rwx and I am in the group but I cant access the files...what did i do wrong?
[22:43] <Learningg> no shit genious
[22:44] <Learningg> thats why i asked
[22:44] <jrib> moses: are you also the owner?
[22:45] <moses> jrib: how do i view the owner?
[22:45] <moses> oh that is a problem
[22:45] <jrib> moses: paste output of ls -ld for the file in question
[22:45] <rwols> moses: ls -l /dir/
[22:45] <moses> how do i change the owner?
[22:45] <rwols> chown
[22:46] <nnyk__> moses: chown user:group filename
[22:46] <jrib> moses: I suggest pastebinning some actual ls -ld output.  You seem to be doing something strange or in a strange way at least
[22:46] <moses> can you change the owner to a group?
[22:47] <Dr_willis> every file has a owner:group
[22:47] <Dr_willis> every user normally has a group thats the same as their username also.
[22:47] <moses> yes
[22:47] <moses> but I made a group and put 3 users in it
[22:48] <moses> but I wanted to make that the owner and the group
[22:48] <dzhonni> hi
[22:48] <moses> I need to give these 3 people full access to the file system in question via the group
[22:48] <dzhonni> can i allow a user to use tcpsump and hcidump on network devices? how?
[22:49] <dzhonni> (a norma user: no su, no sudo)
[22:49] <Dr_willis> You can use the suid bit on a binary file dzhonni  but that could be a security risk
[22:50] <dzhonni> i tried via group adding the user to grups bluetooth and netdev but it does nt work
[22:50] <rwols> moses: you can change the owner to whatever, the group to the group name that the three people are in, and then change the group permission to read+write
[22:51] <moses> the command is like this chown -R owner:group groupname
[22:51] <moses> right?
[22:51] <jrib> moses: what directory are you running that on?
[22:51] <moses> /home/research/
[22:51] <rwols> no, it should be chown -R owner:group /path/to/directory
[22:52] <moses> do i actually put the name of the group in for owner:group?
[22:53] <rwols> yes
[22:53] <moses> it says invalid user when i try the group as the owner :/
[22:53] <TheLordOfTime> moses:  owner has to be a user, group is a group
[22:53] <nnyk__> Hey mrgate.
[22:53] <TheLordOfTime> there isn't always a user with the same name as the group
[22:54] <rwols> owner needs to be a user, if there's a user called "scientist" in group "researchers", you'd write chown -R scientist:researchers /home/research
[22:54] <rwols> then you can change the permissions with chmod -R 664 /home/research
[22:55] <rwols> this will give read+write access to the group and only read access to everybody else
[22:55] <moses> do i need to log in and then log out for changes to occur?
[22:56] <rwols> no, you can immediately check your changes with ls -l /home/research
[22:56] <moses> yeah and it says permission denied
[22:56] <rwols> in that case you probably need to be root
[22:56] <moses> sudo chmod -R g+rwx /home/research/
[22:56] <moses> that is what i used
[22:56] <moses> im not the owenr but i am in the group
[22:57] <moses> it gives that error when i type ls -l
[22:57] <nnyk__> moses: i think that paste might come in handy...
[22:57] <rwols> yes, put up a sample output at pastebin.com
[22:58] <jrib> moses: pastebin actual ls -ld output and actual commands you run that give you "permission denied"
[22:58] <jrib> this way we don't have to play the guessing game
[23:00] <moses> http://pastebin.com/nLbZJGKE
[23:01] <midnightninja> anyone have an idea on how to fix boot repair looping on unmount partitions please close all programs?
[23:03] <PRISMAdmin> Guys, do you think that the ARM version would run as well on the Nexus 10 as it does on the nexus 7? if not is there perhaps an ARM build of SOME distro that does? ...even the poopy Rikomagic Android sticks are supported...
[23:03] <usr13> moses: What are you trying to do? (I just got here.)
[23:04] <marcoceppi> PRISMAdmin: Are you referring to Ubuntu Touch?
[23:05] <marcoceppi> PRISMAdmin: If so, then yes it runs well, if not then I imagine the 13.10 release of Ubuntu will be pretty smooth on Nexus 10 given they share virtually the same code base
[23:05] <mastershake> hey guys how come everytime when i issue the make command to build the source i get this message- make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[23:05] <PRISMAdmin> marcoceppi: No. The "usual" Unity/XFCE/KDE desktop. There are a bunch of videos on youtube showing the Nexus 7 with the (more or less) official ARM build
[23:05] <usr13> mastershake: did you do ./configure  first?
[23:05] <moses> usr13: I am trying to give users in group fortran rwx access to /home/research/ and everything inside of it
[23:06] <marcoceppi> PRISMAdmin: I dont' know off hand, but I imagine it would run the same as the Nexus 7 if not better
[23:06] <mastershake> usr13: "no such file or directory"
[23:06] <usr13> moses: They will have as long as they are in the group it belongs to.
[23:06] <moses> but i tried it
[23:06] <moses> see the paste
[23:07] <moses> its not working
[23:07] <PRISMAdmin> marcoceppi: that's what I would expect, but I am not finding a single resource that could confirm that... Maybe there is something but it's all drowning under the whole Ubuntu touch stuff
[23:08] <usr13> moses: (And don't use 777, no need for that. 644 for files and 755 for directories is default and what you should probably go back to.)
[23:08] <mastershake> is there another way to compile this source since i cant run ./configure?
[23:08] <k1l> PRISMAdmin: better ask in #ubuntu-arm for the desktop support
[23:08] <treehau55> what is the easiest, least path of resistant way to move my ubuntu partition from my spin-drive to my ssd, given that I have a WD passport for temp storage. Is it a dd-rysnc type method or Clonezilla method, recommendations?
[23:08] <PRISMAdmin> k1l: Oh wow, thanks, didn't know about that channel.
[23:09] <PRISMAdmin> clear
[23:09] <usr13> mastershake: "no such file or directory" is the result of ____________ ?
[23:09] <rwols> moses: I think you get a permission denied for the . directory because it needs to be executable for ls
[23:09] <moses> i included executable though rwols
[23:10] <rwols> ah yes i see
[23:10] <rwols> welp, I'm out of ideas
[23:10] <usr13> moses: Are all the users you want to have access to this directory in the group "fortran"?
[23:10] <moses> yep
[23:10] <grendal-prime> grrrrrrr fkn remina
[23:10] <grendal-prime> ops soory
[23:10] <mastershake> usr13: ./configure doesn't exist in the directory
[23:10] <moses> usr13: take a look at the groups madara
[23:10] <grendal-prime> wrong windo
[23:11] <usr13> mastershake: What are you trying to do?  (What are you compiling, or what is it you are doing?)
[23:11] <moses> usr13: when i type that in it clearly shows in im the group, yet when i change the access it wont allow that group in
[23:11] <mastershake> usr13: im trying to complile OpenVAS
[23:12] <afm> evening all…. I've been attempting a OEM install of 13.04.. i run the oem-config-prepare, reboot, find the term with the selection settings, but the X11 window for language select (first screen) responds to nothing on the keyboard
[23:12] <maheanuu> My grandson used my browser (firefox) last night, and this morning I found that I have flipora installed everywhere and cannot find any place that this can be deleted or removed...  I could use some help
[23:12] <grendal-prime> anyone ever had remina go full screen with no indicator on how to get it back?
[23:13] <mastershake> usr13: i downloaded the source code from the webiste and ran tar xvfz file.tar.gz to extract it and now im stuck
[23:13] <holstein> maheanuu: make him a user account.. you can always blow out your mozilla config
[23:14] <maheanuu> I am trying to get there, and I would rather cut off his hands.....
[23:14] <rwols> moses: what happens when you do chmod -R u+rwx /home/research/ ?
[23:15] <maheanuu> holstein, I am trying to figure out what I need to do, apparently it has infected everything...   But I am not seeing it or how to clean it up
[23:16] <maheanuu> I hate it when family uses my stuff, they don't care if they break it and they don't say anything until they are nailed down as the guilty party
[23:16] <usr13> mastershake:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[23:16] <moses> rwols: it works :/
[23:16] <rwols> hooray :)
[23:16] <moses> so user overrides groups?
[23:16] <rwols> yes user goes before group
[23:17] <moses> why dont i just make the user the root then?
[23:17] <moses> the root never logs in
[23:17] <usr13> mastershake: http://samiux.blogspot.com/2013/05/howto-openvas-on-ubuntu-desktop-1204-lts.html
[23:17] <maheanuu> I am planning on going TOR I think I will like it a lot better all around
[23:17] <rwols> well if you have a folder called research in /home/research, changes are that there is a user called research ?
[23:17] <holstein> maheanuu: have you removed the config?
[23:17] <moses> rwols: can i list uders?
[23:18] <moses> users*
[23:18] <holstein> maheanuu: TOR is slow
[23:18] <zryan> hi all
[23:18] <maheanuu> holstein, No, and what is better then?
[23:18] <zryan> how to re enable hibernate in lubuntu 13.04?
[23:18] <holstein> maheanuu: "better" is a matter of opinion
[23:18] <holstein> maheanuu: you can have your son install toolbars and redirect your homepage over TOR
[23:18] <rwols> moses: do this: cat /etc/passwd
[23:18] <usr13> mastershake: (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first.)
[23:18] <maheanuu> holstein, I am running 12.04.2 LTS
[23:19] <holstein> maheanuu: you have an issue where you allowed someone access to your user account.. not an issue of security
[23:19] <holstein> maheanuu: what would i do? remove the mozilla config, and test.. then make my son his own user account.. or let him use the guest account
[23:19] <holstein> maheanuu: this will apply to basically any operating system
[23:19] <maheanuu> Yes, but you were the one that stated slow.....   and to me especially here in French Polynesia, I need all the speed that I can manage to eke out
[23:20] <mastershake> !packages
[23:20] <mastershake> lol
[23:20] <moses> rwols: what is user?
[23:20] <platzhirsch1> Does Ubuntu have a predefined limit on opened file descriptors?
[23:20] <platzhirsch1> There is non configured in /etc/security/limits.conf
[23:20] <jrib> moses: yes, if you have user permissions that restrict access, those take precedence over group permissions for a user who is in the group.
[23:20] <moses> rwols: how do i just give the group permissions and no one else, is it that hard?
[23:20] <maheanuu> He is my grandson, and he was over here playing around and not sure what he did, because I haven't talked to him only to his dad who is still in the stone age
[23:21] <moses> so in reality I cant limit access to a group only...
[23:21] <jrib> moses: just give the user the same permissions.  Or change the user like you said.
[23:21] <rwols> yes you can, you simply create a new user with the same name as the group
[23:21] <holstein> maheanuu: again, the guest account i mentioned is what you let users like that use
[23:21] <moses> rwols: that makes sense
[23:22] <holstein> maheanuu: none of the settings persist from the guest account in ubuntu
[23:22] <moses> rwols: do i add that user to the group?
[23:22] <maheanuu> holstein, I know the security things, it's something else, apparently you have never been to a polynesian society....   What's yours is mine, Whats mine is broke
[23:22] <hans_henrik> does wine work with GUI programs and 12.04 for any1 else?
[23:23] <holstein> maheanuu: i am not speaking about society, friend
[23:23] <hans_henrik> with gnome/unity
[23:23] <holstein> maheanuu: if *anyone* wants to use your machine, the guest account is a convinience for you.. the settings dont persist
[23:23] <rwols> moses: yes, so the strategy is: 1) create user called research 2) add user research to group research 3) chown -R research:research /home/research
[23:23] <deezed> hans_henrik: I never could set wine in 12.04 to run itunes for example
[23:23] <maheanuu> And I am no young kid, I am a 75 yr old retired navy chief and sperry univac field engineer I do know about security, but in family I don't expect them to use my stuff, I Do NOT use theirs
[23:23] <holstein> maheanuu: if you have issues with firefox in your browser, please remove the config from /home
[23:23] <rwols> moses: you can check if there's already a user with the same with: cat /etc/passwd | grep research
[23:23] <holstein> maheanuu: again, this has nothing to do with your age, friend
[23:24] <holstein> maheanuu: password protect your user account, and dont let anyone in.. let them use the guest account
[23:24] <moses> nothing
[23:24] <maheanuu> I don't want anyone on my puter, but that doesn't stop them I realize that, but I guess that padlocks are my only answer
[23:24] <rwols> so you'll need to create one
[23:24] <holstein> maheanuu: otherwise, to "fix" what has happened to your browser, try removing the mozilla config from your /home directory
[23:25] <maheanuu> I don't WANT ANYONE ON MY Machine!!!~!!
[23:25] <holstein> maheanuu: no.. a password is the answer.. and let them use the guest account
[23:25] <holstein> maheanuu: you are here because someone used your machine.. i am explaining to you how to prevent that in the future *and* fix firefox
[23:25] <holstein> maheanuu: no caps please.. i am a volnuteer
[23:26] <deezed> maheanuu: did you ever tried "taylor" linux??
[23:26] <moses> how to create user in ubuntu?
[23:26] <usr13> adduser
[23:26] <moses> it wont let me, says group fortran alreadt exists
[23:26] <deezed> moses: you can use adduser, but its easier to use your gui software and its safer
[23:27] <moses> deezed: im not at the computer though :/
[23:27] <Dr_willis> sudo adduser newusername
[23:27] <deezed> moses: are you doing a chroot?
[23:27] <moses> no
[23:28] <moses> i did this: < Dr_willis> sudo adduser newusername
[23:28] <moses> and got : adduser: The group `fortran' already exists.
[23:28] <Dr_willis> moses,   and what username did you use?
[23:28] <moses> fortran
[23:28] <Dr_willis> and you made a specific fortran Group  earlier?
[23:28] <moses> yes
[23:29] <Dr_willis> You are doing things the hardway then.
[23:29] <Dr_willis> each user also has a group that has their own name
[23:29] <moses> ok
[23:29] <Dr_willis> sudo adduser bubba   makes a bubba user and A bubba group
[23:29] <moses> Dr_willis: im trying to give full rwx permissions to a group of 3 users thouhg
[23:29] <Dr_willis> bubba user is the only member of that group by defualt
[23:30] <moses> those users are all in fortran
[23:30] <moses> already
[23:30] <elisa87>  hey do you know how I can realize what's going wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5875749/
[23:30] <Dr_willis> so you make a group called 'all-three' and add them to that group and make the directory owned by that group i belive..
[23:30] <moses> you cannot make the owner the group
[23:30] <moses> we tried that already
[23:30] <afm> i done an OEM 12.04 server install as well… boot the new drive on the new system… same thing… i can switch between terms but not answer the X11 gui questions as nothing but ctrl+alt+fX works….
[23:31] <Dr_willis> moses,  owner of the group? that phrase makes no sence.
[23:31] <platzhirsch1> ulimit -n 9000 -> cannot modify limit: Operation not permitted. sudo ulimit -n 9000 -> ulimit: command not found
[23:31] <moses> owner:group
[23:31] <Dr_willis> people belong to a group. they can be in more then 1 group.
[23:31] <poz> hello, i have a problem, i am trying to connect to a WEP secure (128 bit) wireless network with a hex key, but it is not working... I am using ubuntu 12.04 lts
[23:31] <poz> does anyone know how to get that to work?
[23:31] <moses> yes, but how do i give everyone in the group rwx to the directory?
[23:31] <Dr_willis> http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialManagingGroups.html
[23:32] <Dr_willis> chomd  g +rwx dirctoryname   i think.. been years since i last messed with it.
[23:32] <afm> poz: wireless chipset would help… i have an atheros that SUCKS on anything but 8.10 which is lame ass old
[23:32] <douglas> yuo
[23:32] <poz> atheros ar922x
[23:32] <moses> Dr_willis: it didnt work :/
[23:32] <poz> i think thats what it is
[23:33] <douglas> hum
[23:33] <Dr_willis> moses,  given the stuff you have been trying.. i have no idea what you have done earlier..
[23:33] <afm> lspci should give the full info...
[23:33] <Dr_willis> moses,  try with a new directory using this anzwer as an example --> http://superuser.com/questions/19318/how-can-i-give-write-access-of-a-folder-to-all-users-in-linux
[23:33] <afm> need to either recompile kernel or install backport for it
[23:33] <douglas> yuo fala portugues
[23:34] <usr13> moses: You can just leave the file and permissions default, but add the users to the group that you assign the directory to.
[23:34] <poz> lspci does not tell me very much
[23:34] <Monkeytoe> I created an upstart script which successfully starts my program on boot. It is being started with this line. exec /home/test/monitor start   when I ps -aux it is showing it running as root... how can I run it as test?
[23:35] <Monkeytoe> tests home directory is /home/test
[23:35] <rwols> moses: I think the best thing to do is just copy your important files to somewhere safe, destroy the folder /home/fortran, and then do adduser fortran
[23:35] <Dr_willis> Monkeytoe,  you could use 'su username  -c commandname'  or somthing similer.
[23:36] <Monkeytoe> so exec su test -c /home/test/monitor start ?
[23:36] <dn5> hi people
[23:36] <Dr_willis> Monkeytoe,  there may be better ways to start it as a user, but i dont do much upstart work.
[23:37] <Dr_willis> and you may need -c 'command stuff'     with the quotes
[23:37] <dn5> I know it's not the channel I have to ask this questio but well.. Is there any way to grab all filenames from remote host if they are availible as list
[23:37] <rwols> moses: then finally, to make things sure, do chown -R fortran:fortran /home/fortran && chmod -R g+rwx /home/fortran
[23:37] <usr13> moses: Change Permissions to files only:  "find . -type f -print | xargs chmod 644"
[23:37] <usr13> moses: Change Permissions to directories only: "find . -type d -print | xrags chmod 755"
[23:38] <douglas> you speak Portuguese
[23:38] <poz> anyone?
[23:38] <k1l> !pt | douglas
[23:38] <dn5> usr13 you may help me with the question
[23:38] <Dr_willis> dn5,  avaiable how?
[23:39] <dn5> as a list, I can give you an example
[23:39] <dn5> one second
[23:39] <dn5> http://bhmobile.ba/web/banner/
[23:39] <dn5> but in case there are sub-dirs it will gather the sub directories and its filenames also
[23:39] <usr13> dn5: ?
[23:39] <douglas> hum
[23:40] <dn5>  Is there any way to grab all filenames from remote host if they
[23:40] <dn5>              are availible as list
[23:40] <Monkeytoe> nice it worked Dr_willis... thank you :)
[23:40] <dn5> usr13
[23:40] <usr13> dn5: What is http://bhmobile.ba/web/banner/ ?
[23:40] <rbanffy> Hi folks. I think I have raised my max open files limit to 60K, but my program is giving me "too many open files" like I didn't. Should I restart the machine after changing /etc/sysctl.conf and doing sysctl -p and a change to /etc/security.conf
[23:40] <dn5> read what I wrote above usr13
[23:40] <moses> usr13: what dir?
[23:40] <moses> rwols: i will do that when i am at the computer next, thank you
[23:41] <usr13> dn5: "Is there any way to grab all filenames from remote host if they are availible as list?"
[23:41] <usr13> dn5: ssh user@host ls -R   ???
[23:41] <dn5> usr13: right, as an automatic scan so I don't have to c/p it and go through all directories and sub dirs alone
[23:42] <Dr_willis> sounds like a job for wget, or httrack
[23:42] <usr13> dn5: All files and all directories in the /home/username directory?
[23:42] <Dr_willis> rbanffy,  a reboot after alterhign that file is needed i belive.
[23:43] <dn5> as far as I know Dr_willis , httrack will copy website design and HTML code and not filenames, usr13: I'm not in position of server
[23:43] <dn5> I don't have any contact with it.
[23:43] <Dr_willis> httrack has  more options then i can rember.   it can do one level deep i belive, thus just grab the files on that url
[23:43] <usr13> dn5: Oh, are you wanting to get files from a webserver (particular website)?
[23:44] <dn5> usr13: yes but they are visible as in the link I gave you
[23:44] <dn5> usr13: they are in list-like
[23:45] <dn5> usr13: not files but filenames
[23:45] <usr13> dn5: The link you gave me returned:  "The requested URL /web/banner/ was not found on this server"
[23:45] <otak> me too ^^
[23:45] <will3032840> I got a seagate goflex that runs Arago project and was wondering if anyone had some prebuilt DPKG binaries. (Arago is like linux but should be able to support dpkg)
[23:45] <dn5> one second
[23:46] <dn5> may I query you usr13?
[23:46] <will3032840> so I need help finding out how to get DPKG on this thing and install.. Yes.. Debian.
[23:46] <usr13> Yes
[23:46] <dn5> I would like for a link to stay private
[23:48] <HateGrub> well, hello all.
[23:48] <will3032840> hi
[23:48] <histo> will3032840: What type of processor etc... and do you have any form of input devices etc...?
[23:49] <histo> dn5: Do you want to actual download the files?
[23:50] <will3032840> histo: look here: http://pastebin.com/Mp0r84d8
[23:50] <HateGrub> apparently, I'm unable to install grub on sdc3. I have 3 hds on my machine. Willing to install linux on the third sdc. Grub refused. MOBO is EFI. I ended having to disable sda and sdb (ssds) to install it. It was running ok, but when I reenable the other two... cant boot. BTW, I'm using the BIOS to select which drive to boot. I`m fine with that...
[23:50] <moses> chown: invalid user: `uog+rwx'
[23:50] <moses> what does that mean
[23:51] <Dr_willis> HateGrub,  grub would go on the mbr of 'sdc' normally - if you want to boot sdc. not 'sdc3'
[23:51] <histo> will3032840: So how exactly does that answer any of the questions I asked?
[23:51] <Dr_willis> moses,  you did a typo would be my guess.
[23:51] <will3032840> histo: sorry... wrong file XD
[23:51] <histo> HateGrub: you install grub to the mbr of the primary boot device
[23:51] <Dr_willis> uog+rwx would be the same as '777' wouldent it?
[23:51] <will3032840> histo: so what would you like me to type in? sorry I'm not expirenced with this shell.
[23:52] <will3032840> histo: give me a list of commands and I'll post them back
[23:52] <histo> will3032840: uname -a
[23:52] <histo> will3032840: cat /etc/issue
[23:52] <HateGrub> Dr_willis: and histo: primary boot device is subjective when you select which disk to boot from bios.
[23:52] <k1l> will3032840: how does that relate to ubuntu support?
[23:53] <will3032840> k1l: Trying to port debian then ubuntu to this device.
[23:53] <histo> HateGrub: True but what is the reason for doing that when you are just using efi?
[23:53] <histo> HateGrub: you probably have a /boot on sda
[23:53] <Dr_willis> HateGrub,  but grub  bootloader goes on the MBR of the hard drive. 'sdc' not 'sdc3'  unless you are doing some chainloading of the bootloaders.
[23:53] <Dako300> I have an old Dell Workstation that I ordered upgrades for. I managed to get the system to boot with 2 GPUs (the BIOS doesn't support the card natively) and I get a text prompt as normal (I run ubuntu server) but whenever I try and run startx of start lightdm, it crashes and has a sementation fault. The card I am using is an Radeon X1600
[23:53] <HateGrub> histo: triple boot. OSX, Win8 and Linux
[23:53] <will3032840> k1l: (Ubuntu maybe?)
[23:53] <histo> !uefi | HateGrub
[23:53] <HateGrub> Dr_willis: sorry. sdc I mean
[23:54] <HateGrub> osx, which runs on an ssd, has chameleon on it. Win8, which runs on the other ssd, runs his own strange structure to boot
[23:54] <moses> rwolcott: you there?
[23:54] <k1l> will3032840: if you want to port debian to a device i would suggest you talk to the debian support
[23:54] <will3032840> histo: http://pastebin.com/kyZAcq4N
[23:54] <HateGrub> ubottu: reading right now
[23:55] <will3032840> k1l: well I might make this a private conversation so that you don't push it somewhere else
[23:55] <HateGrub> the link that ubottu gave, starts promising: Installing Ubuntu Quickly and Easily via Trial and Error
[23:55] <HateGrub> trial and error
[23:55] <HateGrub> hmmm
[23:55] <histo> will3032840: so what is it you want to do with this device?
[23:56] <will3032840> histo: Put dpkg on it or apt-get
[23:56] <HateGrub> histo: how can I check grub configuration nowadays? I'm outdated
[23:56] <Dr_willis> !grub2
[23:56] <moses> what is the chmod # to just give group full access?
[23:56] <HateGrub> vim /boot/grub/grub.conf?
[23:56] <histo> will3032840: That is way offtopic for here. Perhaps try in ##linux or other channels. it would also be rather difficult holding your hand during the process over IRC.
[23:57] <Dr_willis> Grant read access to a directory to all members your group:
[23:57] <Dr_willis> chmod g+rx directory-name
[23:57] <will3032840> histo: okay. Have a nice day..
[23:58] <Dako300> I have an old Dell Workstation that I ordered upgrades for. I managed to get the system to boot with 2 GPUs (the BIOS doesn't support the card natively) and I get a text prompt as normal (I run ubuntu server) but whenever I try and run startx of start lightdm, it crashes and has a sementation fault. The card I am using is an Radeon X1600
[23:59] <moses> JESUS IT WAS WORKING THE WHOLE TIME I JUST HAD TO LOG OUT FIRST