[00:10] <cb_> hello
[00:11] <cb_> is there any db that is installed default in xubuntu 13?
[00:12] <David-A> cb_: not a proper db what I know of, but to be sure, what do you mean by db?
[00:15] <braincellbattle> like postgr or something
[00:17] <braincellbattle> no bigs
[00:17] <Unit193> You can easily install them...
[00:18] <braincellbattle> yeah for sure.  just wondering.  I'm on a limited connection and cant dl much.
[00:19] <Unit193> !offline
[00:19] <braincellbattle> try to keep my software dl under 1MB haha.  Lots of good stuff out there still.
[00:21] <braincellbattle> loving xubuntu 13 though, good work!
[00:22] <Unit193> I'm sure the team is glad. :)
[02:06] <SonikkuAmerica> If any of you big kahunas in Xubuntu are still here, what's the plan for display server stacking for 14.04? (Perhaps in a meeting log or a mailing list archive I could peruse?)
[02:06] <knome> SonikkuAmerica, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[02:07] <SonikkuAmerica> knome: Thanks
[02:08] <SonikkuAmerica> knome: According to the meeting log, maybe Unit193 could give me a bit more detail about it. Thanks for the tip tho!
[02:09] <Unit193> The meeting log says it all, and linked to by the project lead.
[02:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Unit193: I see. :) I can't wait to see what the end result will turn, but I wish I had more hard disk space for testing stuff.
[02:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Lubuntu is already a handful (lol)
[05:05] <Slash0mega> how can i use 32 bit aplications in a 64 bit install
[05:07] <holstein> Slash0mega: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#How_to_Make_32-bit_Applications_Work_on_a_64-bit_Operating_System
[05:07] <Unit193> Multiarch.
[05:08] <holstein> http://www.maketecheasier.com/run-32-bit-apps-in-64-bit-linux/2009/08/10
[05:08] <holstein> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[05:09] <Slash0mega> i did the sudo apt-get install ia32-libs, but it gave a error
[05:10] <Slash0mega> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-multiarch but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. slash0mega@xubuntu:~$
[05:10] <holstein> Slash0mega: sudo apt-get autoremove ia32-libs
[05:10] <holstein> Slash0mega: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ia32libs
[05:13] <Slash0mega> it seems to be working, thank you very much :D
[05:13] <holstein> cheers
[05:22] <BillyZane> hi
[05:22] <BillyZane> i'm having a problem with thunar
[05:22] <BillyZane> i can't seem to view my network in the network tab
[05:22] <BillyZane> i am, however, able to connect to a computer on my network using a VNC
[05:22] <BillyZane> i tried killall thunar
[05:22] <BillyZane> i tried restating my computer
[05:23] <Unit193> You have gvfs-backends installed?
[05:24] <BillyZane> i'm not sure what that means
[05:24] <BillyZane> well let me check
[05:25] <BillyZane> how can i tell if i have something installed or not?
[05:25] <BillyZane> i see it in the repository
[05:26] <BillyZane> userspace virtual filesystem - backends
[05:26] <BillyZane> however, i don't see why i'd require this as i've been able to use thunar to access files on my network up until now
[05:27] <BillyZane> ok
[05:27] <BillyZane> when i click on open location and type in the location "smb://computername/drive letter/"
[05:28] <BillyZane> i'm able to view that drive
[05:28] <BillyZane> the problem is when i click on Browse network, i'm unable to see the computers
[08:51] <goly> hello
[08:52] <goly> i've encountered a problem
[08:52] <goly> i wanted to install xubuntu on an old pc to replace win xp
[08:52] <goly> i did it, xubuntu is installed
[08:52] <goly> but it doesnt boot
[08:53] <goly> i just get a message that an error occured while booting OS
[08:53] <goly> i had problems with computer "not seeing" linux when i did dual-boot installs
[08:53] <goly> so i manually (re?)installed grub
[08:54] <well_laid_lawn> my guess is grub is pointed to the wrong partition for /
[08:54] <goly> well
[08:54] <goly> but i reinstalled grub
[08:54] <goly> and now while boothing
[08:54] <goly> booting*
[08:54] <goly> i see grub
[08:55] <well_laid_lawn> the menu ?
[08:55] <goly> and i can "choose" a system
[08:55] <goly> yeah
[08:55] <goly> but after i choose xubuntu
[08:55] <well_laid_lawn> try not to hit enter so much please
[08:55] <goly> :D
[08:55] <goly> it starts booting but then freezes
[08:55] <goly> wait a second,  i will do it again
[08:57] <goly> ok
[08:57] <goly> so it happened again
[08:57] <goly> after choosing ubuntu in grub menu
[08:58] <knome> !enter | goly
[08:59] <goly> i got wall of text and the first one contains a message: "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)"
[09:01] <well_laid_lawn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/41930/kernel-panic-not-syncing-vfs-unable-to-mount-root-fs-on-unknown-block0-0
[09:02] <well_laid_lawn> check that link for a solution goly
[09:05] <goly> ok, thank you
[09:06] <goly> honestly, I didnt google THIS particular problem, but im quite fed up with all the problems I have with this unfortunate installation ;)
[09:09] <well_laid_lawn> did you md5 the iso and cd you burnt?
[09:09] <well_laid_lawn> !md5
[09:10] <well_laid_lawn> bad cd burns can cause lots of issues
[09:10] <well_laid_lawn> not the only cause of issues tho
[09:26] <goly> well_laid_lawn: yeah, i got issues with bad cd burns alredy, but I prevaied! ;) thank you for another pieces of info, I will look into it in a quarter :)
[09:30] <well_laid_lawn> goly:  goos luck :)
[09:30] <well_laid_lawn> s/goos/good/
[13:10] <aguitel> how install manjaro theme ?
[13:23] <aguitel> how install manjaro theme in xfce ? someone  know it?
[13:42] <baizon> aguitel: well, i think this is the wrong channel for it
[13:43] <baizon> aguitel: but i think you can use the github website to get the theme, then install it :)
[13:44] <baizon> aguitel: website is: http://store.steampowered.com/
[13:44] <aguitel> ok i will
[13:44] <baizon> aguitel: ou well i think there is a arch pkg...
[13:45] <baizon> aguitel: if you go to: http://shimmerproject.org/, then chose 1 theme and on the right side there is "Arch Linux PKGBUILD"
[13:45] <baizon> click there and you will be redirected to the arch pkg :)
[16:31] <horsey> hey
[16:32] <horsey> for some reason my xubuntu isn't showing any "window borders"
[16:32] <hsnmonster> welcome
[16:32] <hsnmonster> explain more
[16:32] <horsey> running xfwm4 brings them back
[16:33] <horsey> no title bars are showing
[16:33] <hsnmonster> try
[16:34] <hsnmonster> settings >>> window manager
[16:34] <horsey> plus i can't type anything into the terminal
[16:34] <horsey> i tried it first
[16:34] <horsey> it shows nothing
[16:34] <horsey> just a grey, blank page
[16:35] <horsey> it's odd, since i haven't installed anything in a while
[16:35] <horsey> not even updates
[16:35] <hsnmonster> I can't get any more but try making googling
[17:33] <nizza> hi, since when is the iso size 840MB?
[17:33] <TheSheep> nizza: what do you *really* want to ask about?
[17:33] <nizza> can i burn such size on a DVD disk?
[17:34] <TheSheep> yes
[17:34] <nizza> i tought that a cd-r 870 MB was needed
[17:34] <nizza> which are hard to get, that's i am here
[17:34] <nizza> why
[17:35] <pleia2> you said dvd, not cd, it will not fit on a cd
[17:35] <pleia2> you have to use a dvdr
[17:35] <pleia2> or use an alternate method for installing, like via usb stick
[17:36] <Sysi> (usb install ♥)
[17:37] <nizza> ok, will search just for a USB install way of doing it
[17:37] <nizza> do i need to reconsider before i try USB-install?
[17:38] <pleia2> !usb
[17:39] <pleia2> ^^ these instructions work for Xubuntu too
[17:39] <nizza> alfa and omega c.o.o.l...
[17:46] <nizza> am i correct that i need a fat32 file system for this on my USB-disk?
[17:48] <nizza> ee
[17:49] <nizza> ext3 or 4 does not work right?
[17:55] <pleia2> nizza: you'll want to follow the instructions given above, it will reformat your drive to what it needs
[17:57] <nizza> hmm, but i am on a mac at the moment
[18:00] <pleia2> then follow the instructions for Mac OSX
[18:00] <nizza> i am trying to mount the xubuntu.iso with Disk Utility, but it says something like "no file system to activate".
[18:13] <nizza> it's weird, looks like this is another type of iso or something
[18:32] <nizza> got it extracted with BetterZip
[18:32] <bekks> Why dont you just loop-mount the iso using mount?
[18:33] <nizza> then it says that it cannot work with the file system
[18:34] <bekks> It doubt that, strongly. Whats the exact error message?
[18:34] <nizza> hdiutil mount xubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:34] <nizza> hdiutil: mount failed - Geen activeerbare bestandssystemen
[18:34] <bekks> Thats not how "mount" works.
[18:34] <bekks> You are running hdiutil, not mount.
[18:34] <nizza> sudo?
[18:35] <bekks> Nope.
[18:35] <bekks> sudo hdiutil is still not "mount".
[18:35] <bekks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/164227/how-to-mount-an-iso-file
[18:35] <nizza> mount xubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:35] <nizza> mount: xubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso: unknown special file or file system.
[18:36] <bekks> You have to specify all necessary mount options, not just a relative file name.
[18:36] <nizza> ok i will fail then
[18:36] <bekks> Just read the link I just gave you.
[18:37] <nizza> ok, thank you, will try
[18:39] <Sysi> you can just push .iso to stick using dd
[18:45] <nizza> with dd that is too hard for me
[18:46] <nizza> i have the iso extracted, but i do not know wheater it works or not
[18:48] <bazhang> nizza, you do not extract the iso
[18:48] <nizza> for on USB disk too?
[18:48] <bazhang> no extraction
[18:49] <nizza> so what i have done now does not work
[18:49] <bazhang> correct
[18:50] <nizza> but why is the desktop cd 840MB?
[18:50] <nizza> while normal it is 700
[18:50] <bazhang> you need a dvd
[18:50] <bazhang> or usb stick
[18:51] <nizza> ok will try that
[18:51] <nizza> but it does not mather that the size of the iso is less than the DVD?
[18:52] <bazhang> correct
[18:52] <nizza> hmm, well, then i will just do it that way
[18:53] <nizza> thank for all the help
[20:35] <tigrang> When setting a panel to auto-hide, it leaves a 3px border still. It's annoying that I can't just mouse my mouse down to the horizontal scrollbar at the bottom of the screen since it activates the panel. Is there a way to fix this
[20:41] <w30> tigrang, try a longer delay in the raising of the panel if you can live with that?
[20:42] <tigrang> w30, I have tried that, but it doesnt work, since I move the mouse down to the bottom of the screen, the mouse pointer is on the 3px border of the bottom panel and doesnt activate the scrollbar
[20:42] <tigrang> guess Ill move the bottom panel to the left if that's my only option
[20:43] <w30> tigrang, can you not allow the active window to cover the panel area?
[20:44] <w30> tigrang, you loose 30 pixels or so doing that but ....
[20:44] <w30> tigrang, if I remember right it won't cover the reserved panel area like it was open
[20:45] <w30> even though its not
[20:46] <tigrang> Are you saying to remove the auto-hide and leave the panel always open/
[20:46] <tigrang> ?
[20:47] <w30> I have too many desktops going to rember what panel can do what... no, just tell your panel to not let windows cover it. I think it will reserve its pop up area also
[20:49] <tigrang> Same thing
[20:52] <w30> tigrang, otherwise you have to be a good mouse driver-pilot-user
[20:52] <tigrang> lol yes
[20:54] <w30> tigrang, reminds me of the handicapped user that artifical arms controlled by eyebrow movement. He slapped himself silly when he sneezed
[20:54] <w30> had
[20:54] <tigrang> heh
[21:27] <ProfElm> Sometimes my Xubuntu doesn't start-up with the GUI. Any advice?
[21:29] <holstein> ProfElm: try and define "sometimes".. and nail it down.. share any relevant details, such as what hardware you have, if any other normal users have the same issue, when exactly what happens and what version of xubuntu youa re using
[21:32] <ProfElm> I have a dual boot running in a Lenovo X230 laptop. It dual boots Xubuntu 64 bit & Windows 8, and I have UEFI enabled. I had to adjust the boot settings using boot-repair to allow the dual boot to work.
[21:32] <holstein> ProfElm: just?
[21:32] <holstein> ProfElm: so, you literally booted one time? and had this issue?
[21:33] <ProfElm> Often times, I'll start xubuntu and it just goes into a black screen with a cursor blinking. After some random keystrokes, I get the bash line and am able to use Xubuntu without X.
[21:33] <ProfElm> If I login without X and use the computer, I'm able to use bash. If I try to startx, it is unable to start it and logs an error.
[21:33] <ProfElm> This has happened maybe twice. Both after a restart.
[21:34] <holstein> ProfElm: are you up to date with upgrades?
[21:35] <ProfElm> Yep.
[21:36] <ProfElm> I'm running Xubuntu 13.04, just got the updates.
[22:05] <bitbox_> any body here able to help w "error: invald arch independent ELF magic          grub rescue>" type problems?
[22:06] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair might help..
[22:06] <bitbox_> yes been there no dice
[22:06] <holstein> bitbox_: been there? you mean, you've used the application to restore grub?
[22:06] <bitbox_> cwhat ap?
[22:07] <bitbox_> cant load anything
[22:07] <holstein> bitbox_: the one in the link i gave.. boot repair
[22:07] <bitbox_> wont recognize cd or usb
[22:07] <holstein> bitbox_: what wont do what?
[22:07] <holstein> bitbox_: the machine wont boot a live CD?
[22:07] <bitbox_> yes
[22:07] <holstein> !uefi
[22:08] <holstein> sounds like some "protection" to me. i would ask my vendor how to boot CD's
[22:09] <bitbox_> ok
[22:09] <bitbox_> it booted them before this just fine
[22:09] <holstein> bitbox_: before what?
[22:10] <bitbox_>  "error: invald arch independent ELF magic          grub rescue>"
[22:10] <holstein> bitbox_: assume i have no idea when that is occuring
[22:10] <holstein> did you install ubuntu? xubuntu? are you trying to install it?
[22:10] <bitbox_> i press power and i get that msg, nothing else
[22:10] <holstein> bitbox_: did you install anything?
[22:11] <holstein> bitbox_: can you get to the bios settings?
[22:11] <bitbox_> i had a dual boot sys uubuntu and win8 and i was trying to create a multisystem usb and
[22:11] <bitbox_> tried to get into bios
[22:11] <bitbox_> nada
[22:11] <holstein> bitbox_: bios is where i would start
[22:11] <bitbox_> strait to error
[22:12] <bitbox_> f8 right?
[22:12] <holstein> bitbox_: sometimes i pull the batteries, and the power. try and restart everything
[22:12] <bitbox_> ok hang on
[22:12] <holstein> bitbox_: the bios settings key are specific to your hardware
[22:12] <holstein> bitbox_: F8 might be it, but it might not be
[22:12] <holstein> !bios
[22:13] <bitbox_> !bios as a command?
[22:13] <holstein> bitbox_: i was trying to get a list of common bios keys
[22:13] <holstein> control, esc.. f1, f10.. whatever
[22:13] <holstein> its specific to your model
[22:13] <SunStar> F2, ctrl
[22:14] <holstein> could be anything, though
[22:14] <SunStar> del
[22:14] <SunStar> delete
[22:15] <bitbox_> its a toshiba satellite
[22:15] <bitbox_> anybody know off the cuff?
[22:15] <holstein> bitbox_: thats still not enough information.. i had one and it was f12.. but i had a newer one that was esc
[22:16] <holstein> bitbox_: that is google-search-able.. by model
[22:16] <bitbox_> hang on i am trying to look it up online
[22:18] <bitbox_> toshiba satellite p855-s5312
[22:18] <SunStar> do a google search for the manual.   there is a manual for ur satellite and BIOS settings are described within
[22:22] <bitbox_> looking
[22:26] <tigrang> Im havign another issue now. I have a panel with App Menu, Window Buttons, Seperator (expanding), Notification Area, Clock, Show Desktop. When I have too many windows opens the Window buttons pushes the items to the right of it off the screen
[22:27] <bitbox_> ok im in
[22:27] <bitbox_> into the bios i mean
[22:28] <tigrang> looks like it pushes it to the next workspace
[22:28] <tigrang> can I constrain it to stay on one workspace
[22:35] <tigrang> guess it was just bugged, removed the item and re-added it
[22:38] <bitbox_>  holstein: ok i managed to get into bios
[22:56] <w30> tigrang, you sure are having panel pain. You evidently have it set to expand as needed; Set it to a static size
[22:59] <w30> tigrang, then it will put the squeeze on the tasks or open window icons
[23:27] <tigrang> i set size to 100% and unchcked autoamatically expand
[23:27] <tigrang> i had to remove the Window buttons item and re-add it
[23:36] <w30> tigrang, works  for you now?
[23:39] <tigrang> w30, yup
[23:39] <tigrang> w30, I think I'm done messing about http://i.imgur.com/ruMcaYN.png