| twb` | OK, never mind, I found the problem. I turned off the journal on my SD card's ext4 filesystem, because my system never crashes, so it'll be fine, right? Turns out, this trips a kernel bug when I try to download web comics onto it. The similar fusker script didn't trip it last weekend - go figure. | 00:15 |
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| twb` | So I'll just go without webcomics for now. | 00:15 |
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| twb | [ 95.907718] BUG: scheduling while atomic: python/1234/0xfffffffc | 00:18 |
| lilstevie | twb, the one running windows isn't a transformer :p | 02:12 |
| lilstevie | and is hardware identical (except the windows key and lcd) to the tf700 | 02:12 |
| twb | k | 02:13 |
| twb | If I walked down to officeworks at lunch and dropped $900 on the current android tf, is your stuff set to flash it and make it all sexy and ubuntu? ;-) | 02:14 |
| lilstevie | nope | 02:21 |
| twb | Aw. | 02:22 |
| lilstevie | I haven't done any work for tf recently | 02:22 |
| lilstevie | been too busy | 02:22 |
| twb | Are you working on anything, or just school? | 02:22 |
| lilstevie | I moved house, and have no internet at the new house | 02:22 |
| twb | I had no internet for three weeks just because the wire fell out of the cabinet in the street or something | 02:23 |
| twb | it took that long for the telco man to come look at it | 02:23 |
| lilstevie | we are having a little bit of difficulty getting the ftth connected | 02:23 |
| lilstevie | cause our landlord is dragging their hands on getting the paperwork signed for connection | 02:24 |
| twb | Bleh | 02:24 |
| twb | At least ftth is an option for you | 02:24 |
| lilstevie | they told us they signed and returned the paperwork 2 weeks ago | 02:24 |
| lilstevie | option? there is no option, it is ftth or nothing | 02:24 |
| lilstevie | no copper here | 02:24 |
| twb | I dunno why you'd want copper, unless it's brand new and probably not even then | 02:25 |
| twb | I'm assuming there are competing retailers for FTTH subscriptions | 02:25 |
| lilstevie | heh, it isn't a matter of wanting copper, it is a matter of wanting anything for internet | 02:25 |
| lilstevie | only 5 | 02:25 |
| twb | lilstevie: get a 3g dongle with prepaid data sim | 02:26 |
| lilstevie | twb, that is what I'm using right now | 02:26 |
| lilstevie | but 3g data is horrendously overpriced | 02:26 |
| twb | just stop using facebook :P | 02:26 |
| lilstevie | compared to my $40/m unmetered adsl2+ | 02:26 |
| lilstevie | twb, at the moment, I've stopped everything except irc | 02:26 |
| twb | That's cheap for unmetered. | 02:27 |
| lilstevie | that was cheap for unmetered yes | 02:27 |
| twb | I'm still paying $80/200G/mo from internode | 02:27 |
| lilstevie | internode are who we are going with for ftth | 02:27 |
| lilstevie | but it is fairly pricey | 02:27 |
| twb | Well iinetnode | 02:27 |
| lilstevie | heh | 02:27 |
| lilstevie | iiBorg | 02:27 |
| twb | Since they drove up to simon's house with a truck full of money | 02:27 |
| lilstevie | they parked the cube in his driveway and assimilated him | 02:28 |
| lilstevie | http://www.internode.on.net/residential/fibre_to_the_home/estates/ but pretty much the best deal | 02:28 |
| lilstevie | other options involve peak/offpeak which is bleh | 02:28 |
| lilstevie | or 200GB quotas on 100/40 | 02:29 |
| lilstevie | or in the case of iPrimus waving your right to the CSG | 02:29 |
| twb | I wonder if like electricity, you can get credits by providing internet back into the network | 02:29 |
| lilstevie | hah | 02:29 |
| twb | by hosting usenet and bittorrent and deb mirrors | 02:30 |
| lilstevie | with an upload double that of my old download I'd happily do that | 02:32 |
| lilstevie | but instead they charge you both ways | 02:32 |
| twb | It's only going to be worse when libs get in and make me get fttc | 02:33 |
| twb | I notice the exchange that's four doors down from me, has been sold | 02:33 |
| lilstevie | "when the libs get in" I would have agreed 2 weeks ago, but we are looking at a much closer contest these days | 02:36 |
| lilstevie | or at least a minority government | 02:36 |
| lilstevie | some of the independents may help keep your ftth dream alive | 02:36 |
| twb | TBH I haven't been paying attention | 02:41 |
| twb | I don't know how to work our telly so I only get local news when someone from .ca or .uk asks me about it | 02:41 |
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| lilstevie | twb, lol | 03:09 |
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| ashes | hello | 05:20 |
| ashes | have any of you use linux to control a DC motor? | 05:20 |
| ashes | or if linux can be used to control a DC motor in any capacity... i need pulse width modulation to control speed | 05:21 |
| maxinux | can linux - yes | 05:22 |
| maxinux | http://beaglebone.cameon.net/home/using-pwm-outputs | 05:22 |
| ashes | very interesting | 05:24 |
| ashes | i own a trim slice, so i guess i can't use that | 05:24 |
| ashes | it would also be cool to use linux for a lithium battery management system | 05:25 |
| ashes | mm | 05:37 |
| ashes | one problem with the beagleboard and what i want to do. i have a 48 volt electric bike with a 500 watt motor | 05:38 |
| ashes | it can spike to 30-40 amps at startup | 05:38 |
| ashes | i don't think the beagleboard can handle that | 05:38 |
| ashes | so its pwm would only work with small motors or lights | 05:39 |
| twb | "lithium battery management system" -- as in, the firmware that stops the thing from discharging all at once, overcharging, &c? | 05:50 |
| twb | I'm not sure I want something as hairy as linux in charge of that. | 05:50 |
| ashes | is suppose | 06:03 |
| ashes | i suppose | 06:03 |
| twb | I'm actually not sure you'd be able to reflash their firmware without some regulatory body clapping you in irons | 06:05 |
| ashes | i am working on a piece of art basically. i bought a used $500 500 watt, 48 volt, electric moped (it has both a motor and pedals) | 06:05 |
| twb | Ah, so you're not going to be sitting on it when it explodes :-) | 06:06 |
| ashes | i have dropped another $1000 on it for new batteries, lights, wire, etc | 06:06 |
| ashes | i upgraded the wire to 10 gauge, and gained 10% speed | 06:06 |
| ashes | anyway | 06:06 |
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| ashes | i don't care if i spend $20,000 on a bike that is worth $800 | 06:07 |
| ashes | because i am learning as i go | 06:07 |
| twb | I like my Gazelle Toer Populair, but it's unassisted | 06:07 |
| ashes | i want a ebike that can do 110 kmph, and uses open source software | 06:09 |
| ashes | i plan to overvolt 2000 watts of motors | 06:09 |
| twb | Anything can do 110kmph if you drop it from high enough :-) | 06:09 |
| ashes | i want motors on both wheels | 06:10 |
| twb | http://www.cyber.com.au/~twb/doc/bike.txt are my bike notes, but I didn't cover any electric bits | 06:10 |
| twb | But I think the power train of a bike is pretty embedded -- linux doesn't deal well with systems with <4MB each of volatile and non-volatile storage | 06:13 |
| twb | You could certainly build a linux-based trip computer or entertainment system for the pillion passenger | 06:14 |
| ashes | also | 06:17 |
| ashes | the battery pack is 48 volts, and there is a 48 to 12 volt converter | 06:17 |
| ashes | my brother, an electrician, says the loss should be minimal. i am willing to get a dedicated 12 volt pack for the lights | 06:18 |
| ashes | i suspect the converter loses volts | 06:19 |
| ashes | simply upgrading the 48 volt wiring from 16 gauge to 10 gauge got me a 10% speed increase | 06:19 |
| ashes | the factory used many sizes of wires | 06:20 |
| twb | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_electric_vehicle says an "e-bike" can do up to 45km/h, if it does up to 80km/h it's an "e-motorcycle" and is subject to stricter DMV regulation (e.g. you need to wear a motorbike helmet) | 06:20 |
| ashes | in canada it's a pedal bike without a gasoline engine, so it's legally a bicycle | 06:21 |
| twb | Ah, OK | 06:21 |
| twb | There's legal info in that page, too | 06:22 |
| ashes | ok | 06:22 |
| twb | It says you can't do more than 32km/h in canada except in alberta where you can do 35km/h | 06:22 |
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| ashes | yes, and i can dispute that i am going downhill | 06:23 |
| twb | Righto. | 06:23 |
| ashes | my bike does 45kmph | 06:23 |
| twb | I assumed you wanted to do 110km/h on a flat plane with no wind | 06:23 |
| twb | At STP and all that | 06:23 |
| ashes | i hope police have better things to do than stop me for riding too fast in the bike lane | 06:23 |
| twb | Pfft. They pull me up when I'm walking home, make me show my hands to prove I have not been spraying graffiti | 06:24 |
| ashes | i used to play snooker after the place closed, for free, and would walk home at 3am. i would get stopped by police every night, until i stopped walking in the small streets | 06:25 |
| ashes | now i walk on major streets if i can | 06:25 |
| ashes | police are less likely to stop someone on a major street because it disturbs traffic | 06:27 |
| ashes | with my ebike, i am trying to develop 'ideal practice', mostly for soldering | 06:28 |
| ashes | i get conflicting advice | 06:29 |
| ashes | the guy at NAPA wants me to buy cheap stuff. my brother is an electrician, and he's worse | 06:30 |
| ashes | i want ideal | 06:30 |
| ashes | money is no object for this project | 06:30 |
| ashes | i'm not rich, but i don't have a wife or children | 06:30 |
| ashes | so far, my best ideal, is to strip, flux, tin wire. carefully crimp the connector on the wire for full contact | 06:32 |
| ashes | solder the wire to the contact, and then insulate it | 06:32 |
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| redtape|renegade | Mail-order product available in respondable email #ads (AUG ~13} :::: http://www.fanlesstech.com/2013/07/utilite-quad-core-arm-linux-desktop.html :: | 22:31 |
| maxinux | i would have been more interested w/o the spam | 22:48 |
| redtape|renegade | leaves. | 22:49 |
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