[00:15] OK, never mind, I found the problem. I turned off the journal on my SD card's ext4 filesystem, because my system never crashes, so it'll be fine, right? Turns out, this trips a kernel bug when I try to download web comics onto it. The similar fusker script didn't trip it last weekend - go figure. [00:15] So I'll just go without webcomics for now. === twb` is now known as twb [00:18] [ 95.907718] BUG: scheduling while atomic: python/1234/0xfffffffc [02:12] twb, the one running windows isn't a transformer :p [02:12] and is hardware identical (except the windows key and lcd) to the tf700 [02:13] k [02:14] If I walked down to officeworks at lunch and dropped $900 on the current android tf, is your stuff set to flash it and make it all sexy and ubuntu? ;-) [02:21] nope [02:22] Aw. [02:22] I haven't done any work for tf recently [02:22] been too busy [02:22] Are you working on anything, or just school? [02:22] I moved house, and have no internet at the new house [02:23] I had no internet for three weeks just because the wire fell out of the cabinet in the street or something [02:23] it took that long for the telco man to come look at it [02:23] we are having a little bit of difficulty getting the ftth connected [02:24] cause our landlord is dragging their hands on getting the paperwork signed for connection [02:24] Bleh [02:24] At least ftth is an option for you [02:24] they told us they signed and returned the paperwork 2 weeks ago [02:24] option? there is no option, it is ftth or nothing [02:24] no copper here [02:25] I dunno why you'd want copper, unless it's brand new and probably not even then [02:25] I'm assuming there are competing retailers for FTTH subscriptions [02:25] heh, it isn't a matter of wanting copper, it is a matter of wanting anything for internet [02:25] only 5 [02:26] lilstevie: get a 3g dongle with prepaid data sim [02:26] twb, that is what I'm using right now [02:26] but 3g data is horrendously overpriced [02:26] just stop using facebook :P [02:26] compared to my $40/m unmetered adsl2+ [02:26] twb, at the moment, I've stopped everything except irc [02:27] That's cheap for unmetered. [02:27] that was cheap for unmetered yes [02:27] I'm still paying $80/200G/mo from internode [02:27] internode are who we are going with for ftth [02:27] but it is fairly pricey [02:27] Well iinetnode [02:27] heh [02:27] iiBorg [02:27] Since they drove up to simon's house with a truck full of money [02:28] they parked the cube in his driveway and assimilated him [02:28] http://www.internode.on.net/residential/fibre_to_the_home/estates/ but pretty much the best deal [02:28] other options involve peak/offpeak which is bleh [02:29] or 200GB quotas on 100/40 [02:29] or in the case of iPrimus waving your right to the CSG [02:29] I wonder if like electricity, you can get credits by providing internet back into the network [02:29] hah [02:30] by hosting usenet and bittorrent and deb mirrors [02:32] with an upload double that of my old download I'd happily do that [02:32] but instead they charge you both ways [02:33] It's only going to be worse when libs get in and make me get fttc [02:33] I notice the exchange that's four doors down from me, has been sold [02:36] "when the libs get in" I would have agreed 2 weeks ago, but we are looking at a much closer contest these days [02:36] or at least a minority government [02:36] some of the independents may help keep your ftth dream alive [02:41] TBH I haven't been paying attention [02:41] I don't know how to work our telly so I only get local news when someone from .ca or .uk asks me about it === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [03:09] twb, lol === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [05:20] hello [05:20] have any of you use linux to control a DC motor? [05:21] or if linux can be used to control a DC motor in any capacity... i need pulse width modulation to control speed [05:22] can linux - yes [05:22] http://beaglebone.cameon.net/home/using-pwm-outputs [05:24] very interesting [05:24] i own a trim slice, so i guess i can't use that [05:25] it would also be cool to use linux for a lithium battery management system [05:37] mm [05:38] one problem with the beagleboard and what i want to do. i have a 48 volt electric bike with a 500 watt motor [05:38] it can spike to 30-40 amps at startup [05:38] i don't think the beagleboard can handle that [05:39] so its pwm would only work with small motors or lights [05:50] "lithium battery management system" -- as in, the firmware that stops the thing from discharging all at once, overcharging, &c? [05:50] I'm not sure I want something as hairy as linux in charge of that. [06:03] is suppose [06:03] i suppose [06:05] I'm actually not sure you'd be able to reflash their firmware without some regulatory body clapping you in irons [06:05] i am working on a piece of art basically. i bought a used $500 500 watt, 48 volt, electric moped (it has both a motor and pedals) [06:06] Ah, so you're not going to be sitting on it when it explodes :-) [06:06] i have dropped another $1000 on it for new batteries, lights, wire, etc [06:06] i upgraded the wire to 10 gauge, and gained 10% speed [06:06] anyway === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [06:07] i don't care if i spend $20,000 on a bike that is worth $800 [06:07] because i am learning as i go [06:07] I like my Gazelle Toer Populair, but it's unassisted [06:09] i want a ebike that can do 110 kmph, and uses open source software [06:09] i plan to overvolt 2000 watts of motors [06:09] Anything can do 110kmph if you drop it from high enough :-) [06:10] i want motors on both wheels [06:10] http://www.cyber.com.au/~twb/doc/bike.txt are my bike notes, but I didn't cover any electric bits [06:13] But I think the power train of a bike is pretty embedded -- linux doesn't deal well with systems with <4MB each of volatile and non-volatile storage [06:14] You could certainly build a linux-based trip computer or entertainment system for the pillion passenger [06:17] also [06:17] the battery pack is 48 volts, and there is a 48 to 12 volt converter [06:18] my brother, an electrician, says the loss should be minimal. i am willing to get a dedicated 12 volt pack for the lights [06:19] i suspect the converter loses volts [06:19] simply upgrading the 48 volt wiring from 16 gauge to 10 gauge got me a 10% speed increase [06:20] the factory used many sizes of wires [06:20] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_electric_vehicle says an "e-bike" can do up to 45km/h, if it does up to 80km/h it's an "e-motorcycle" and is subject to stricter DMV regulation (e.g. you need to wear a motorbike helmet) [06:21] in canada it's a pedal bike without a gasoline engine, so it's legally a bicycle [06:21] Ah, OK [06:22] There's legal info in that page, too [06:22] ok [06:22] It says you can't do more than 32km/h in canada except in alberta where you can do 35km/h === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [06:23] yes, and i can dispute that i am going downhill [06:23] Righto. [06:23] my bike does 45kmph [06:23] I assumed you wanted to do 110km/h on a flat plane with no wind [06:23] At STP and all that [06:23] i hope police have better things to do than stop me for riding too fast in the bike lane [06:24] Pfft. They pull me up when I'm walking home, make me show my hands to prove I have not been spraying graffiti [06:25] i used to play snooker after the place closed, for free, and would walk home at 3am. i would get stopped by police every night, until i stopped walking in the small streets [06:25] now i walk on major streets if i can [06:27] police are less likely to stop someone on a major street because it disturbs traffic [06:28] with my ebike, i am trying to develop 'ideal practice', mostly for soldering [06:29] i get conflicting advice [06:30] the guy at NAPA wants me to buy cheap stuff. my brother is an electrician, and he's worse [06:30] i want ideal [06:30] money is no object for this project [06:30] i'm not rich, but i don't have a wife or children [06:32] so far, my best ideal, is to strip, flux, tin wire. carefully crimp the connector on the wire for full contact [06:32] solder the wire to the contact, and then insulate it === doko__ is now known as doko === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === prpplague is now known as das_plague === fabo_awa1 is now known as fabo === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina === cmagina is now known as cmagina-away === cmagina-away is now known as cmagina [22:31] Mail-order product available in respondable email #ads (AUG ~13} :::: http://www.fanlesstech.com/2013/07/utilite-quad-core-arm-linux-desktop.html :: [22:48] i would have been more interested w/o the spam [22:49] leaves. === piscodig is now known as discopig