[08:14] <darkxst> roasted, re your comment the other day, ubuntu is now a cycle behind gnome. so Saucy will be 3.8, but we will have 3.10 on the ppa
[08:55] <jemadux> what version has 13.04 on ubuntu ?
[09:34] <darkxst> jemadux, 3.6
[09:34] <darkxst> jemadux, and 3.8 on ppa
[09:34] <darkxst> ricotz, hi
[09:34] <jemadux> i see ;)
[09:35] <ricotz> darkxst, hi
[09:36] <darkxst> ricotz, so what happens with clutter now? it should be bumped to clutter-2.0?
[09:36] <darkxst> (given the api bump?)
[09:36] <ricotz> clutter doesnt break api
[09:37] <ricotz> and there will be no 2.0 release afaik
[09:37] <ricotz> clutter 1.16 is the current dev branch
[09:38] <ricotz> cogl is the problem
[09:38] <darkxst> oh right, I was looking at clutter master
[09:39] <ricotz> they current release situation is a bit problematic since clutter 1.15.2 doesnt build against cogl 1.15.2 (with enabled wayland backends)
[09:40] <ricotz> darkxst, for both cogl and clutter the 1.16 branches are the current ones
[09:41] <darkxst> ok
[09:41] <ricotz> darkxst, sorry, so it seems wise to wait for the next clutter/cogl round for the ppa, so don't wait for them in staging
[09:42] <darkxst> right, theres no actual dependency on the yet anyway, right?
[09:43] <ricotz> no, not yet
[09:47] <ricotz> darkxst, do you know why jbicha pushed gvfs to the "normal" ppa?
[09:48] <ricotz> (while it is systemd enabled)
[09:48] <darkxst> ricotz, he had a gvfs mp for enabling goa
[09:49] <ricotz> this is not what i asked ;)
[09:49] <ricotz> https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3/+sourcepub/3363736/+listing-archive-extra
[09:50] <ricotz> this was probably meant for the staging/raring ppa
[09:59] <darkxst> yeh perhaps, but the one in staging has goa enabled and this new one doesnt?
[09:59] <darkxst> so  i have no idea really
[15:26] <roasted> hello friends
[15:38] <ricotz> jbicha, hi
[15:38] <ricotz> :)
[15:39] <ricotz> did you intend to upload gvfs (systemd enabled) to gnome3-team/gnome3 instead of the gnome3-staging?
[15:39] <jbicha> ricotz: oh
[15:41] <jbicha> no I was just uploading for goa support but it looks like seb128 wants that in a separate package if possible
[15:44] <ricotz> jbicha, hmm
[15:44] <ricotz> let's see where the screams come from if it breaks things
[15:45] <jbicha> I'll do another upload later today at least
[15:45] <jbicha> thanks for letting me know :)
[15:46] <roasted> do you guys actively work for Ubuntu/Gnome, or are you guys hangin out on the back porch at home doing this?
[15:46] <ricotz> jbicha, yw
[15:46] <ricotz> jbicha, i am not objected to push the systemd enabled stack to gnome3-ppa if it only breaks unity stuff
[15:51] <jbicha> ricotz: well it's not needed until g-s-d 3.8 is ready for the gnome3 ppa
[15:53] <ricotz> jbicha, fair enough
[16:01] <jbicha> roasted: Ubuntu GNOME is a volunteer project, there aren't any paid positions if that's what you're wondering
[16:02] <roasted> jbicha: I kind of thought so. I just wasn't sure. :)