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Saviqguys, can someone please take care of https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/clean-build-scripts-coding/+merge/17384708:05
nic-doffaySaviq, quick question have you ever had an issue with QML objects being instantiated recursively?08:53
Saviqnic-doffay, not that I can remember08:54
nic-doffaySaviq is there any way I can get a detailed stacktrace to figure this out?08:54
Saviqnic-doffay, use the Qt debugging session in QtCreator - it'll let you break in JS / inspect objects and such08:57
nic-doffaySaviq, helpful thanks·08:58
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* greyback bbiab09:36
nic-doffaySaviq, trying to import Ubuntu.Components 0.1 but it's claiming ambiguity. Any ideas?09:38
Saviqnic-doffay, what did you do to get to that state?09:38
nic-doffayother .qml files in examples/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gallery in the ubuntu-ui-toolkit import it without issue.09:39
nic-doffayI'm creating a new gallery test for the themed optionSelector.09:39
Saviqnic-doffay, not sure, if the others work fine, there's nothing I can think of that'd make yours fail09:40
dpmhappy birthday Saviq and Saviq_ ;)10:01
greybackSaviq: clean-build-scripts-coding approved10:31
nic-doffayAnyone have any tips on sorting out weird QML ambiguous import issues?10:33
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greybacknic-doffay: set the environment variable QML_IMPORT_TRACE, it will print debug info on where imported plugins are sought for and located10:38
pete-woodsguys, I *think* I'm having trouble with user identity on the phone10:38
pete-woodsthe apps are running as the user phablet, I think10:38
pete-woodsbut the greeter thinks the login user is called "single"10:39
pete-woodsthis means that the infographic data gets filed under a different username10:39
pete-woodsshould I be detecting the username different in the infographic input API?10:40
pete-woodsor should the mock lightdm backend have the username match the real user?10:40
nic-doffaygreyback, thanks that helps a lot!10:43
tvoss_Saviq, ping10:47
nic-doffaygreyback, setting the env var before running ./gallery.sh. Not seeing any additional output...10:50
greybacknic-doffay: What gallery is that? uitk?10:55
nic-doffaygreyback, that's the one.10:55
nic-doffayI'll pastebin you the error, it's confusing.10:56
greybackworks for me: QML_IMPORT_TRACE=1 ./gallery.sh10:56
nic-doffaygreyback, yep but I'm not getting any extra info for whatever reason on that issue, I see the other imports...10:58
greybacknic-doffay: what do you want to learn? What's going wrong?10:59
nic-doffaygreyback, check this out: https://pastebin.canonical.com/94379/10:59
nic-doffayAll I'm doing in importing Ubuntu.Components10:59
nic-doffayIn the qml file.10:59
nic-doffayBasically exactly like every other example in the gallery as far as I can tell.11:00
greybacknic-doffay: smells like a uitk bug. Lemme see11:01
greybacknic-doffay: I'm not reproducing it here however. You using uitk trunk? Have you a value set for QML_IMPORT_PATH in your shell?11:02
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greybackis almost as if the same directory is in the list of import directories twice11:03
nic-doffaygreyback, it's in my OptionSelector branch.11:04
greybacknic-doffay: link?11:04
nic-doffaygreyback, one sec let me push.11:04
nic-doffaygreyback, lp:~nicolas-doffay/+junk/option-selectors11:06
nic-doffayIf you run the gallery and select OptionSelector tab you'll see what I mean.11:07
nic-doffayBasically I moved the OptionSelector from the ListItems to Components.11:08
CimiSaviq_, https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/unity8.colour_palette/+merge/17467811:08
nic-doffaySince there will be four variations of it.11:08
greybacknic-doffay: well reproduced. Am digging11:09
nic-doffaygreyback, ta.11:09
nic-doffaygreyback, I've only added it to components, this is what's throwing me off the ambiguous output, unless I've missed something.11:10
greybacknic-doffay: you are importing Ubuntu.Components in modules/Ubuntu/Components/OptionSelector.qml11:11
greybackbut that's defining Ubuntu.Components, so is circular dependency11:11
nic-doffaygreyback, where should I be importing Ubuntu.Components then?11:14
greybacknic-doffay: use it only outside the modules/Ubuntu/Components directory. If you're inside that directory, use "import ." to import the qml files in that directory instead11:16
greybacknic-doffay: "import ." is a silly suggestion - it's done automatically.11:17
nic-doffaygreyback, that's what I assumed.11:17
nic-doffaygreyback, so surely importing qtquick would be enough?11:18
nic-doffaygreyback, without importing Ubuntu.Components OptionSelector isn't found.11:19
nic-doffayEven though it's in the Components dir.11:19
greybacknic-doffay: this does it for me: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5877125/11:20
greybacknic-doffay: did you add the component to the qmldir file?11:20
nic-doffaygreyback, yeah11:21
nic-doffayin the components qmldir11:21
greybacknic-doffay: well then that patch above seems to fix it for me, reasonably well anyway11:21
greybackyou only needed QtQuick, and to also inclde the ListItems directory as a namespace (ListITem)11:21
nic-doffaygreyback, ah got it.11:22
nic-doffaygreyback, forgot that I moved it out the dir and had to explicitly import the items.11:22
nic-doffayta for the help!11:22
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tvoss_Saviq, ping11:27
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Saviq_tvoss_, pong11:45
Saviq_thanks dpm :)11:45
Saviqdednick, https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/drop-indicator-recommends/+merge/174534 btw11:56
dednickSaviq: do we install recommends on phone? should we not recommend indicator-server in that case?11:58
arssonSo is there any how to use unity8 an actual session?12:00
Saviqdednick, no, it's taken care of by the seed12:00
dednickSaviq: ok12:00
Saviqarsson, what do you mean by "an actual session"?12:00
Saviqarsson, we only support android's surface flinger at the moment, Mir support is happening as we speak, at which point you will be able to get the unity8 experience from the phone/tablet on your desktop12:01
Saviqarsson, only with Qt apps for the start, other toolkits coming later to the party12:01
arssonSavig: i mean that i can choose in lightdm unity8 session and it could be usable12:02
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Saviqarsson, not yet12:04
Saviqarsson, should be there by the end of the month12:04
arssonwhere can i find info when it's possible?12:05
Saviqooh a doodle just for me :D12:07
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dandraderI'm getting a long pause and this error by the end of a ./build: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5877350/13:00
dandraderhas anyone seem this as well?13:01
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dandradermight be from the qmlplugindump tool...13:02
dandraderAlthough it puzzles me why are we trying to start a service during a build....13:04
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Saviqdandrader, interesting... but I imagine yes, the plugin dump tool is probably recognized as an application by the hud13:12
Saviqs/the hud/bamf/13:12
Saviqdandrader, or actually...13:12
Saviqdandrader, the plugin itself is probably instantiated, and is waiting for the hud to show up on the bus13:13
Saviqthat's probably the more reasonable explanation13:13
Saviqdandrader, OTOH wouldn't that block in CI?13:13
dandraderSaviq, no, it hangs for a while and then timesout13:14
dandraderSaviq, there's  might be something wrong in my setup. apt-get autoremove removed qmenumodel-qml13:15
dandraderSaviq, but it is used13:15
dandraderSaviq, by Components/VolumeControl.qml at least13:15
Saviqdandrader, yeah, it's needed, but nothing depends on it13:16
dandraderSaviq, so I wonder why unity8-build-deps haven't brought it13:16
Saviqdandrader, it's a runtime dep13:16
Saviqdandrader, so somehow it got marked as auto-installed13:16
Saviqdandrader, and now got removed after whatever it was installed with got away13:17
Saviqdandrader, ./build -s will sort you out again13:17
dandraderSaviq, I think it happened during the indicators-client switch13:17
Saviqdandrader, it's possible indeed13:17
dandraderthe shuffling of packages my have led to some weird state during my apt-get dist-updrage this morning13:18
Saviqdandrader, as for the hud timeout, HudClient::HudClient() calls hud_client_query_new("") which is probably blocking13:18
Saviqand times out after 30s waiting for the service13:19
Saviqdandrader, so if qmlplugindump actually instantiates the registered types - that's probably our problem13:20
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dandraderhmm, I also get this block-and-timeout when I ./run13:20
Saviqdandrader, yeah, your hud doesn't work13:20
Saviqdandrader, actually I think I know why it might not timeout on CI - it probably just fails straight away, 'cause there's no hud .service file13:21
dandraderSaviq, is that expected or am I missing some runtime dependency?13:21
Saviqdandrader, no, not expected13:21
Saviqdandrader, `apt-cache policy hud` ?13:21
dandraderSaviq, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5877427/13:22
Saviqdandrader, mine's 13.10.1+13.10.20130703-0ubuntu1 still13:22
* Saviq upgrades13:22
Saviqyikes! 338 packages to upgrade?13:23
Saviqlet's see what breaks13:25
dandrader"expect some bumps along the road"13:25
Saviqdandrader, `status hud` btw13:26
dandraderSaviq, is this hud the one used also by unity 7 or is it a unity8-only thing?13:26
dandraderstatus hud -> "hud stop/waiting"13:27
Saviqdandrader, it's the same13:27
Saviqdandrader, `start hud`13:27
Saviqdandrader, and see `status hud` and check out ~/.cache/upstart/hud.log13:28
Saviqfor any obvious run failures13:28
dandraderSaviq, hmm, right. the hud shows up in my unity 7 but if I type anything its "waiting" icon stays there forever13:28
Saviqdandrader, yeah, mine isn't really working either13:29
dandraderah, it got auto-started now that I tried to use it13:29
dandraderbut still not working13:29
* dandrader checks log13:29
dandraderit has just a bunch of warnings complaining about some missing bamf interfaces in dbus13:30
dandraderSaviq, ^13:30
CimiSaviq, so for the wallpaper, what shall we do?13:41
CimiSaviq, connect the property with the system settings?13:41
SaviqCimi, yes, the usual for now13:42
CimiSaviq, who is leading the system setting app?13:42
SaviqCimi, seb12813:42
greybackmterry: QT_QPA_PLATFORM=ubuntumirserver13:46
* Saviq reboots, wish me luck13:47
greybackmterry: mir_demo_server& then mir_demo_client_accelerated13:48
greybackmterry: ubuntu-touch-session  should be version 1:0.57-0~75+77~saucy113:49
mterrygreyback, I just ended up pushing it from my computer to the device.  No change once installed13:57
greybackmterry: did you reboot after installing it?13:57
mterrygreyback, no; duh13:58
Trevinhodandrader: the api has not changed.. Strange (also if I deprecated few things I'd like to get rid of soon)13:58
greybackmterry: any good?14:06
pete-woodsmterry: lightdm mock question - would it be a lot of work (or crazy) to change the name of the fake user "single" to match up with the real user being used ("phablet")14:07
pete-woodsmterry: it seems to be causing the infographics data to be filed under the wrong user14:07
mterrygreyback, hmm, sorry, had network problems apparently.  Let me resend messages:14:08
mterry(after rebooting device)14:08
mterry<mterry> greyback, OK.  server && client_accelerated works.  Thanks.  So Mir itself is capable.  Running unity8, I see that Ubuntu.Application can't be found, like it's not setting the right QML path for it14:08
mterry<mterry> greyback, manually setting that, I get a segfault after some warnings about not being able to claim a dbus name, oddly14:08
mterrypete-woods, hm? causing the infographics data to be filed under the wrong user when actually running on device?14:09
greybackmterry: yep, as U.A not available yet, need to run unity8 in test mode. That is one of the things the run script did, set the correct paths.14:09
mterrygreyback, except it didn't.  it didn't set the QML path to the right place to pick up Ubuntu.Application14:11
mterryIt used /usr/share/unity8/plugins14:11
mterryvs /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/imports14:11
mterrygreyback, why run unity8 in test mode?  U.A is available, eh?14:11
greybackmterry: U.A. is not available, it uses hybris which we don't want. I'm writing the new one14:12
pete-woodsmterry: yeah, it's going under the "phablet" user, as that's what the apps are running as14:13
greybackmterry: so try pointing it to  /usr/share/unity8/plugins/mocks14:13
greybackjust to get it going14:13
mterrypete-woods, ah!  I see.  Yeah, change the demo plugin to use 'phablet', makes sense.  Don't change the other plugins though, as those are used for tests14:14
pete-woodsmterry: cool. that's why I wanted to check - wasn't sure which bits should change14:15
mterrygreyback, (I believe that's /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/unity8/qml/mocks these days)14:16
mterrygreyback, huh, OK!  Using the mock, I get a unity8 image on the screen, but it's super tiny (quarter size or so in bottom left) oddly14:17
greybackmterry: ok, you need to set GRID_UNIT_PX=18, then try again14:20
greybackodd as those vars are set in my env14:20
mterrygreyback, yup, OK.  Nice14:20
mterrygreyback, hm.  Do you know from whence they are set?14:20
greybackmterry: the grid unit in /etc/ubuntu-touch-session.d/<codename>.conf14:22
greybacknot sure about the QPA though14:22
mterrygreyback, hm, troubling that I don't have them set.  I wonder what else is messed up14:23
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greybackmterry: indeed. I use SSH all the time now, you can launch mir from it now14:23
greybackso no need for adb shell14:23
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greybackmterry: could you do me a favor and pastebin me the output of "dpkg -l" from your phone? I want to check the versions of your egl libs to compare with mine14:27
mterrygreyback, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5877623/14:28
greybackmterry: many thanks14:30
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dandraderSaviq, so, are you getting that Hud timeout after dist-upgrading and rebooting14:46
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didrocksmhr3: do you know/have a link to what translates from LT_VERSION to .so.<current-age>.?.? and set the right soname?14:53
didrocksmhr3: I can't find the macro making that…14:53
mhr3didrocks, iirc it's done manually14:53
didrocksmhr3: you don't seem to do that like for libunity9 "-version-info $LIBPROTOCOL_LT_VERSION"14:54
didrocksmhr3: but no trace of CURRENT-AGE14:54
mhr3didrocks, then it's ld itself14:56
didrocksmhr3: ok14:56
mhr3didrocks, or well, libtool14:57
didrocksmhr3: seems to be libtool: http://www.unbound.net/pipermail/unbound-users/2012-January/002190.html15:00
mhr3makes sense15:02
seb128mhr3, hey, I've a question for you15:04
mhr3seb128, the answer is maybe15:04
seb128good answer!15:04
seb128mhr3, looking at /usr/share/unity/scopes/photos.scope15:04
seb128mhr3, SearchHint=Search photos15:05
seb128mhr3, is that what is displayed in the dash?15:06
seb128mhr3, if so where is string marked as translatable? e.g in what gettext domain should it be and how is it added it there (I guess it's not atm which is what makes me look at it)15:06
seb128data/master-scopes/photos.scope.in.in:_SearchHint=Search photos15:06
seb128in fact15:06
* seb128 wonders why it's not in the pot15:06
mhr3seb128, yea, that's where it's marked for translation15:06
seb128for some reason intltool-update --pot doesn't list it15:07
mhr3and the domain is what's defined in the scope file15:07
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mhr3seb128, hmm... not sure why15:07
seb128[type: gettext/ini]data/home.scope.in.in15:07
seb128I've a feeling the type is wrong15:07
Saviqdandrader, no, it passed fine (although the unity7 hud doesn't work still)15:07
mhr3seb128, oh, the files aren't listed in POTFILES.in15:08
mhr3that's why15:08
seb128mhr3, oh, right15:08
seb128mhr3, can you fix that? ;-)15:08
Saviqpaulliu, btw, .../tests/plugins/Unity/previewbindingstest.cpp:0: Note: No relevant classes found. No output generated.15:08
seb128mhr3, do you want a bug report about it?15:08
mhr3seb128, no need, fixing15:09
Saviqpaulliu, there's an unnecessary #include for the .moc15:09
Saviqdandrader, yeah, it passes through just fine15:09
seb128mhr3, thanks15:09
seb128mhr3, don't forget to prefix them [type: gettext/ini] or that will not work15:09
seb128mhr3, I just confirmed it works with that though ;-)15:10
paulliuSaviq: ok15:11
mhr3seb128, https://code.launchpad.net/~mhr3/unity-scope-home/update-potfiles/+merge/17478715:12
mzanettidandrader: Saviq: sitting in a Mouse/touch session. What exactly is our reason to convert mouse->touch?15:12
dandradermzanetti, I thought you were on holidays?15:12
mzanettidandrader: no. QCS15:12
paulliuSaviq: I'll fix it.15:12
mzanettiQt Contributors Summit15:13
dandradermzanetti, DirectionalDragArea handles only touch events15:14
mzanettidandrader: the qt guys think about merging touch/mouse in upcoming releases15:14
mzanettiso that might be good for us15:15
mzanettidandrader: so is it only an implementation detail of DDA or is there a technical reason we can only use touch events in there?15:16
seb128mhr3, thanks, approved15:16
dandradermzanetti, gesture recognition will fail if a second touch point appears15:16
dandradermzanetti, you wouldn't have this info using mouse events15:17
mzanettidandrader: ah ok. perfect.15:17
dandradermzanetti, and it also enables those scenarios where you can manipulates multiples things simultaneously15:18
Saviqmzanetti, yeah +1 on merging touch with mouse I think15:18
mzanettithe question came up what we do with hovering etc15:18
mzanettiI guess thats broken right now for us15:18
Saviqmzanetti, yeah, we don't get that with touch15:19
dandraderif I recall correctly android's input stack is like that (touch and mouse are "merged")15:20
Saviqdednick, did you see #ubuntu-unity? seems password entry in network indicator is broken15:22
dandraderSaviq, rebooted my desktop. now Hud doesn't hang anymore15:26
Saviqdandrader, cool15:26
dandraderthe old adage: when something inexplicable is happening, try rebooting15:28
Saviqdandrader, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2FB1P_Mn815:31
pete-woodsfolks: are some of the unity tests unstable at the moment?16:25
pete-woodsI just got a fail on a test I don't think I should have affected: https://code.launchpad.net/~pete-woods/unity8/change-user-single-to-phablet/+merge/17479216:26
pete-woodsthe test is something about ListViewWIthPageHeaderTestSection16:27
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dednickSaviq: sorry. been out for a bit. taking a look now16:34
greybackpete-woods: have you merged trunk recently? If not commit 92 might help16:39
pete-woodsgreyback: I branched from commit 107, but thanks for the suggestion16:40
pete-woodsit's really an utterly trivial change16:40
pete-woodsmterry: have you seen the error in the MR you approved for me just a short while ago before?16:41
nic-doffaySaviq, ping16:42
paultagAnyone see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1051921 ? Seems to be an easy fix …16:44
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1051921 in unity (Ubuntu) "lens-bar-keynavigation periodically writes to /tmp/wut.png" [Low,Triaged]16:44
Saviqnic-doffay, pong16:44
nic-doffaySaviq, UbuntuShape option looks awesome btw!16:44
nic-doffayOne question though regarding changing an Image source property.16:45
Saviqnic-doffay, cool16:45
nic-doffayAt the moment I've done it using logic, should I be using state changes instead?16:45
greybackpete-woods: kick it again and cross fingers?16:45
nic-doffayNot sure what the best QML way to do it is.16:45
pete-woodsgreyback: okay, trying that! :)16:45
nic-doffaySaviq, it's just the simple change between tick and chevron but it will get a bit more complicated when I colour it with a shader for the various themes.16:46
nic-doffayObviously want minimal clutter.16:46
nic-doffayCan you change an image's source with a state?16:46
greybacknic-doffay: yes16:46
nic-doffaygreyback, PropertyChange { source: } ?16:47
greybacknic-doffay: that's it16:47
nic-doffayPropertyChanges sorry16:47
greybacknic-doffay: there's no hard fast rule, but if you've several properties to change at once, using States helps a lot16:47
nic-doffaygreyback, in this case it's only one.16:48
greybacknic-doffay: only 1 property to change? Or only 1 State?16:48
Saviqnic-doffay, wouldn't just "source: someProperty ? chevron : tick" suffice?16:49
greybacknic-doffay: I'm a fan of States, but I only use it if I have (say) >3 properties with the trinary operator (property)?yes:no :16:50
Saviqnic-doffay, and re: colourizing it, you talked with the SDK guys about that?16:50
greybacknic-doffay: fewer, I wouldn't bother16:50
nic-doffaySaviq, yeah I have.16:50
Saviqnic-doffay, k16:50
nic-doffaythey agree with my approach.16:50
nic-doffayfewer assets the better.16:50
nic-doffayI always try stick by that.16:51
nic-doffaySaviq, regarding the source: someProperty it would work.16:52
nic-doffayBut it gets a bit complicated with the expansion thing.16:52
Saviqnic-doffay, your call, realy16:52
* greyback eod17:01
Cimiwho can review the theming branch?17:02
Cimiseb128, ping :)17:02
nic-doffaySaviq, it's pretty close to completion now. Fancy taking a preliminary look before I put it up for merging?17:03
seb128Cimi, hey, don't look at me for theming!17:03
Saviqnic-doffay, not today, but yeah, would gladly see it at work17:04
nic-doffaySaviq, no rush.17:04
Saviqnic-doffay, the real review will have to happen by SDK guys anyway17:04
nic-doffaySaviq, yep.17:04
nic-doffayStill need to chat to them about documenting it well.17:04
nic-doffayI really like the look of the ubuntu shape one though!17:05
nic-doffaydoubt people will use the ListView version ^_^17:05
Saviqnic-doffay, depends on where it'll be ;)17:06
Saviqnic-doffay, if standalone - probably, if in a list of other ListItems, probably not :)17:06
nic-doffaySaviq, good point haha17:06
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Cimiseb128, I just need for the background17:14
seb128Cimi, what do you need?17:16
Cimiseb128, we'd like to have the system settings app control the background of unity17:16
seb128Cimi, right, that's done17:17
Cimiseb128, does it already work??17:17
Cimiwhat am I missing :)17:17
seb128Cimi, just make unity read org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri17:17
seb128in gsettings17:17
seb128Cimi, dunno about unity17:17
seb128Cimi, you should read that gsettings key ;-)17:17
Cimidednick, hey dude17:33
Cimidednick, do we have example code reading from dconf?17:33
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Cimimaybe unity 2d...17:34
SaviqCimi, nope17:34
SaviqCimi, qsettings-qt17:34
SaviqCimi, but talk to seb about this, sync with the settings app17:35
CimiSaviq, they already set it17:36
CimiSaviq, all we need is to look for this dconf17:37
SaviqCimi, not dconf17:37
SaviqCimi, that's an impl detail17:37
SaviqCimi, in $settings_backend17:37
Cimiah ok17:37
CimiSaviq, so you want the settings app to change the property?17:37
SaviqCimi, if you mean the setting value, yes17:38
CimiSaviq, maybe they could change both17:38
SaviqCimi, and we should just read it - most probably through gsettings-qt17:38
CimiSaviq, like both changing the setting for unity17:38
Cimiah ok17:38
Cimignome will still use dconf17:38
SaviqCimi, no, gnome uses gsettings ;)17:39
SaviqCimi, with a dconf backend, sure, but not directly dconf17:39
CimiSaviq, exactly17:39
SaviqCimi, yes, and we'll be using the same17:40
SaviqCimi, gsettings-qt is a Qt wrapper around gsettings17:40
CimiI'll have a look during my flight17:42
seb128Cimi, Saviq:17:50
seb128that's a simple example17:50
Cimiseb128, good17:51
CimiI'll look into it17:51
Saviqseb128, awesome, did you guys consider a per-form-factor setting? like an overlay for different ffs, for example?17:51
seb128Saviq, not that I know of, we just followed the current design and the wallpaper didn't seem something too specific to the screen size17:54
seb128but yeah, that's worth keeping in mind17:54
Saviqseb128, yeah, it's a pretty generic topic17:55
Saviqseb128, and probably a per-setting one17:55
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Saviqseb128, i.e. there might be different default values for a setting depending on form factor, but then if you change them, does it apply to both? or just the one you've changed it in?17:56
Saviqand if you then change it after having switched to a different ff, does it "trickle" back to the other one?17:57
seb128Saviq, thanks for raising the topic, I'm going to put that on the agenda for our meeting this week ;-)17:57
Saviqseb128, cheers :)17:58
seb128on that note diner time17:58
seb128have a good evening everyone17:58
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veebersugh, does anyone else get this error (I get it when using bzr qlog): bzr: ERROR: Failed to verify GPG signature data with error "Invalid crypto engine"21:53

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