[12:05] Good morning [12:11] morning [15:26] g'morn [15:33] Howdy. [15:34] Quick poll: If there were a separate jobs mailing list for a certain user group that allowed recruiters to post directly to the list, would this be something you would be interested in? [15:34] (assuming you were in the job market, etc) [15:40] <_stink_> i'm sure i'd subscribe, then filter then somewhere i would never read [15:43] liberationtech has a -jobs list, but it doesn't seem to have recruiters post to it, more often the list admin or people from the companies doing the hiring [16:12] Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of: people will either not subscribe, or they'll not read it [16:12] then again, it would get some of the traffic off of the main list. :) [16:13] is this MUG? [16:13] It could be. :) [16:13] (yes) [16:13] (there's no traffic on ubuntu-us-mi, of course :) ) [16:14] Yeah, there's a little traffic on that list. [16:15] ubuntu-us-mi that is [16:16] Also, if you ever decide to have a group called mug, or a podcast named "metal", expect folks to try to solicit you ceramic mug manufacturing, or nickel alloys. [16:19] heh [16:20] Thank God I don't have an Apple Product liberation blog called Free Ipad or I'd really be in trouble. [16:34] snap-l: How many jobs posts are there to MUG? [16:42] We usually get about 1-2 a month [16:42] so it's not horrible traffic, but I'm wondering if we could open it up some more [16:43] Just wanted to get a general sense if I was completely off-base for suggesting it [16:48] I think there's no point until you get a complaint from a member [16:49] For GRWebDev we set up a free jobs board so people can post. Peoeple interested in the jobs can go there [16:50] Yeah, we've kicked that around as well [17:28] I find it funny that Fx nightly plays youtube videos just fine, but chromium consistently gives me "video not available" errors [17:30] Wonder if it's something to do with Flash between the browsers [17:30] or perhaps some privacy foo [17:32] probably option 2 [17:32] but duno [17:32] +n [17:32] I even have flashblock going on Fx [17:32] (so, two clicks needed instead of just one) [17:42] does chromium come with flash like chrome does? [17:43] no [17:46] there ya go. [17:48] doesn't make sense, wouldn't it give me a "no flash, dur" error instead? [17:48] because it hates you [17:48] it's quite personal [17:48] * greg-g nods [17:48] understandable, I dislike it as well [17:53] https://plus.google.com/+IanBicking/posts/Pzzj4gsfa2U [17:54] Every time I think "I should learn me some Javascript" I read something like this. [17:55] snap-l: don't let that stop you. C compilers weren't compatible with each other for many years. it is still a great language. [17:55] I know C doesn't guard against shit, but it seems like Javascript sets out a welcome mat over a vat of laser-sharks [17:55] http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/C-Extensions.html [17:56] just follow Crockford style JS and all is good. [17:57] jslint or bust [17:57] and if it huts your feelings then man up and get over it [17:58] Programming is hard. Let's go shoppinmg [17:59] shopping is hard, lets write a database. [17:59] Checking integrity is hard. Let's write MongoDB. [18:00] (aside: I noticed identi.ca was having replication issues with MongoDB. Could only shake my head.)) [18:00] lol [18:00] mongodb is webscale [18:01] MongoDB is a steaming pile of webscale. [18:46] TIL: debian packages nginx in both -core and -light versions. [18:53] what's the difference between the two? [18:56] light is not a complete set of core modules. -full has full core modules. [18:56] oops, its -full and -light [18:57] Ah, ok [19:31] yea, lots of optional modules but requires recompile [19:32] i'll start with full, then maybe try light [19:32] since all I really need is uwsgi [20:47] wtf ubuntu - uwsgi 1.0.3, isn't that ANCIENT?!? [20:49] oh, its the LTS uwsgi. [20:50] yea, pip install uwsgi ftw [20:56] actually 1.0.3 is fine :) [20:56] adn my good it is FAST [20:56] nginx+uwsgi FTW [20:56] yea, it's nice. I run bookie with nginx + uwsgi [20:57] though I do want to go to gunicorn [20:57] i adapted http://justcramer.com/2013/06/27/serving-python-web-applications/ [20:57] and WOW this is faster than I thought it would be. [20:57] http://docs.bmark.us/en/latest/hosting.html#hosting-your-bookie-installation is the bookie docs and a little bit out of date [20:57] ok i'm still in awe of how fast this is. [20:58] very cool [20:58] 1100 rps with running ab -n 10000 -c 100 [21:10] oh, lol, that wasn't hitting the uwsgi, that was just nginx redirecting /a/b/c to /a/b/c/ [21:10] *sigh* [21:22] lol [21:22] ok, that makes more sense [23:12] jrwren: nigix serves /dev/null like a bat out of hell