| thafreak | there was a tool back in the original redhat days, called apt4rpm | 01:25 |
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| thafreak | that was my first time using apt... | 01:25 |
| thafreak | that was also pre-yum | 01:25 |
| thafreak | when rpm dependancies had to be resolved manually...which sucked | 01:25 |
| thafreak | so apt4rm was really nice | 01:25 |
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| skellat | One for paultag: https://github.com/e14n/pump.io/issues/118 | 03:33 |
| jenni | [ Debian package · Issue #118 · e14n/pump.io · GitHub ] - https://j.mp/10VydlB | 03:33 |
| paultag | I can't get into my pump.io | 03:33 |
| paultag | erm, identica | 03:33 |
| paultag | since I had a LP login | 03:33 |
| paultag | via OpenID | 03:33 |
| paultag | and I can't email recover | 03:33 |
| skellat | You never had an e-mail set up? | 03:34 |
| skellat | Hmm | 03:34 |
| skellat | There is a ticket filed on that | 03:34 |
| paultag | This user account has no email address. | 03:34 |
| paultag | sucks | 03:34 |
| paultag | identi.ca totally jumped the shark | 03:34 |
| skellat | You're not the only one who missed the couple weeks of notices on that | 03:35 |
| paultag | such a shame | 03:35 |
| paultag | ya | 03:35 |
| skellat | How horrible do I sound in the packaging discussion above? | 03:35 |
| paultag | Let me open it in a sec | 03:35 |
| paultag | working in NEW | 03:35 |
| Unit193 | Thought identi.ca turned into a spam pit a while ago. | 03:36 |
| paultag | heh, pump is node | 03:37 |
| skellat | Unit193: Nah, that got killed ruthlessly. Sometimes legitimate users got slammed too. | 03:37 |
| skellat | paultag: But notice the issues I flagged with that nasty little dependency... | 03:38 |
| skellat | Shipping a private copy of node.js in a package probably violates packaging policy, I assume | 03:38 |
| paultag | skellat: pushing so hard for stable, why? | 03:38 |
| paultag | why not just wait until node gets into testing and backports | 03:39 |
| skellat | :-) | 03:39 |
| paultag | skellat: also is pump really in a shape to be uploaded to Debian? | 03:39 |
| skellat | paultag: Evan wants to build a pump.io appliance | 03:39 |
| paultag | skellat: if someone has a bug in 4 years when this version is in stable, will it get attention or "you're running out of date code, we're at v100000, what are you using that for" | 03:39 |
| paultag | perhaps you should upload it to experimental. | 03:40 |
| skellat | paultag: That's still the question being batted about | 03:40 |
| paultag | i see | 03:40 |
| paultag | yes, I agree. Wait until there's a compelling reason | 03:40 |
| paultag | until then use a local archive + ppas | 03:40 |
| skellat | Identica collapsed once after the transition | 03:40 |
| paultag | you have to really ask if this is going to be supported; if not, it's not fit for stable | 03:41 |
| paultag | which is part of why node it's self isn't in | 03:41 |
| skellat | Hence why I'm also talking to an FTPMASTER | 03:41 |
| paultag | skellat: rc-buggy, btw, isn't about rc buggy behavior | 03:41 |
| paultag | it's the rc buggy car from toy story | 03:41 |
| paultag | it's a joke | 03:41 |
| paultag | skellat: >:D | 03:41 |
| paultag | (you heard about that, didja :) ) | 03:41 |
| skellat | Which done did flew over my head | 03:42 |
| skellat | Never really watched the Toy Story films too much | 03:42 |
| paultag | it's a bit subtle for most people | 03:42 |
| paultag | http://s3.amazonaws.com/bonanzleimages/afu/images/1002/8369/TOY_STORY_RC_CAR_PICS.jpg | 03:42 |
| jenni | https://j.mp/10VyPYw | 03:42 |
| skellat | Evan is a DD at least | 03:42 |
| paultag | wait, he is? | 03:43 |
| skellat | Last I recall, Evan Prodromou is a Debian Developer | 03:43 |
| paultag | evan@debian.org; confirmed | 03:43 |
| paultag | neato | 03:43 |
| skellat | When I did the private write-up to him about what it would take to do the appliance I noted that Debian was going to be the best route since it supported the most kerosene-powered cheese graters at the moment | 03:44 |
| paultag | skellat: I met him when he came to Boston :) | 03:44 |
| paultag | Yeah, I'd say shoot for experimental | 03:44 |
| paultag | you can requestsync it down if you need to | 03:44 |
| skellat | The downstreams are the big worry if he goes ahead with the RPi appliance idea | 03:45 |
| skellat | Raspbian would be out of the question since they diverge a bit from Debian's own repo | 03:45 |
| skellat | Possibly | 03:45 |
| paultag | well, setting up an rpi archive is a snaop | 03:46 |
| paultag | snap | 03:46 |
| skellat | The RPi has a nice price point but has so many inconvenient limitations that make it annoying for things like use as an appliance | 03:46 |
| paultag | and one of the rpi folks is a DD | 03:46 |
| paultag | erm, raspbian | 03:46 |
| Unit193 | Pretty easy to do a normal repo too. ;) | 03:46 |
| paultag | plugwash | 03:46 |
| paultag | brb trash | 03:46 |
| skellat | ARMv6 instruction set makes it generally not play nice with Pure Debian armhf which is why Raspbian went through re-compiling | 03:46 |
| skellat | Ubuntu won't touch ARMv6 instruction set | 03:46 |
| skellat | Fedora ARM ran dog slow until it was re-compiled for ARMv6 as Pidora and that was just...not cool... | 03:47 |
| skellat | Slackware focuses on ARMv5 | 03:48 |
| skellat | Gentoo's installation process looks a bit masochistic | 03:48 |
| Derath-Srvr | skellat: isn't Gentoo masochistic in the first place? | 09:35 |
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| skellat | Blah: https://identi.ca/alpacaherder/note/DvflWvpsQk2hpOfKXUO2xg | 17:55 |
| jenni | [ note by Stephen Michael Kellat - Identi.ca ] - https://j.mp/1bCYXvC | 17:55 |
| paultag | skellat: :( | 17:56 |
| Unit193 | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1269#comment-402807 hah. ;P | 18:28 |
| jenni | [ Mark Shuttleworth » Blog Archive » Two weeks with Mir ] - https://j.mp/1bD5AOv | 18:28 |
| Unit193 | And no, I don't often read that blog, I didn't even fully read that post either. There is a Jeff in the comments that is worth reading, though. | 18:28 |
| paultag | skellat: I'm just an ftp-assistant, part of the ftpmaster team :) | 18:54 |
| paultag | skellat: but thank you :) | 18:54 |
| Unit193 | Well you help me out enough... | 18:54 |
| paultag | Unit193: ♥ | 18:54 |
| paultag | it's a pleasure to serve. | 18:55 |
| paultag | Men and women for others, and all that other Jesuitical stuff | 18:55 |
| Unit193 | I've even contacted the Debian/Ubuntu packageer for grub about a patch, but he said to contact upstream. :( | 18:57 |
| paultag | dafuq | 18:58 |
| paultag | cjwatson? jordi? | 18:58 |
| Unit193 | (New config option, so makes sense.) Watson. | 18:58 |
| paultag | ah yep | 18:58 |
| paultag | cjwatson is a great guy | 18:58 |
| Unit193 | He didn't seem bad, not someone I'd want to contact often though just because :scary: :P | 18:59 |
| Unit193 | He explained why, and it was very sane. | 18:59 |
| paultag | :) | 19:04 |
| alpacaherder | Very, very, very tentatively: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-ohio/624/detail/ | 19:08 |
| jenni | [ Ubuntu Ohio July 2013 Meeting | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal ] - https://j.mp/15IaKGw | 19:08 |
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| Unit193 | Heh, for having "details" in the name, it's a bit lacking on their end. :P I'd guess either the platform is lacking, or the agenda is one item? (Well, guessing lacking platform either way.) | 23:16 |
| skellat | Unit193: Yet another bug I need to file against LoCo portal | 23:20 |
| skellat | Even though our time zone is Eastern Standard Time, the meeting tool is stuck in UTC | 23:21 |
| skellat | Okay | 23:23 |
| skellat | Got some more details added | 23:23 |
| skellat | Gonna file yet more bugs | 23:23 |
| Unit193 | (Not that I'm trying to nitpick, or complain.) | 23:23 |
| skellat | Unit193: There, does it look better now? | 23:24 |
| Unit193 | Yes! | 23:25 |
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