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mazalMorning everyone05:25
Kiloshi mazal and others06:12
Kiloshi psychicist 06:12
Symmetriagod cell phone rates in kenya are so cheap06:50
Symmetria45c a minute on pre-paid 06:50
inetprogood morning07:03
Symmetriamorning07:03
Symmetriaheh man, even the cell phone data here is dirt cheap07:03
SymmetriaR114 gets you 1.5gig of data here 07:04
Symmetriaand thats on pre-paid and its the more expensive low volume bundle07:04
Symmetriaand data doesnt expire for 6 months07:04
Kiloshi inetpro Symmetria 07:15
Kiloshi Vince-0 07:16
Vince-0haai07:19
inetprohello Kilos07:20
Kilosdid you get bitlbee working07:21
Kiloshehe07:21
nuvolario/ mornings07:23
Kiloslo nuvolari 07:24
charlgood morning07:25
charlMaaz: coffee on07:25
* Maaz flips the salt-timer07:25
Kiloshi charl 07:26
KilosMaaz, coffee please07:26
MaazKilos: Yessir07:26
charlhi Kilos 07:28
KilosMaaz, dag07:28
MaazDag sĂȘ my menslike vriend07:28
MaazCoffee's ready for charl and Kilos!07:29
KilosMaaz, danke07:30
MaazBitteschön07:30
charlMaaz: thanks07:30
Maazcharl: No problem07:30
ThatGraemeGuymorning all07:45
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 07:45
Kiloshi psyatw 08:16
psyatwhi Kilos08:20
charlhi ThatGraemeGuy 08:21
charlhi psyatw 08:21
magespawngood day all08:34
Kiloshi magespawn 08:34
magespawnmeeting tonight08:35
Kilosyip08:35
psyatwhi charl08:36
Kiloshi Xethron 08:40
XethronHeya Kilos 08:43
Symmetriadoes anyone here know any seriously competant coders/scripters who are available to do some work for 2 weeks or something 09:17
Symmetriamoney will be? really decent 09:17
Symmetriawhoever the developer is, they'd need to sign a pretty strict NDA as well09:18
magespawnno all the ones i know are full time employed09:19
Symmetriaugh09:19
SymmetriaIm having a mission finding someone 09:19
Kiloshttp://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/03/how-to-hire-a-programmer.html09:22
Kiloshi zeref sakhi 09:23
Kilosgoogle not helping Symmetria ?09:23
sakhiMorning Kilos and #ubuntu-za09:26
mazalSymmetria, what language ?09:33
mazalAnd looking for just one person or a whole team ?09:34
magespawni am looking for a free vpn service, any recommendations?09:53
Kilosfound one but its only free for 48 hours10:12
Kiloswhat you wanna do magespawn ?10:12
Kiloshttp://vpnsolution.us/free_vpn_account.php10:12
Kilosothers say free setup10:18
Kilosfree is a funny word nowadays10:18
magespawnyup free always is10:19
magespawngoing to try these guys http://www.vpnbook.com/freevpn10:20
Kilosfree setup then $8 a month10:20
Kiloshttp://www.supervpn.net/south-africa-vpn.html10:21
Kilos Free Setup and Unlimited Bandwidth10:22
magespawnthe first guys are free setup only10:23
Kiloswhat is the idea of a VPN?10:25
Kilosyou still limited by your ISP10:25
Kilosi read what is a vpn and why you should use one, but dont see any advantage over using your own network10:27
magespawnyes the idea is that people 'cannot' track where you are going and what you are doing10:28
Kilosbut you can control that from your pc too, not so?10:28
magespawndepending on how it is set up it allows you to access local network services remotely10:29
mazalI still struggle to understand vpn10:29
magespawnyes you can this would mean all the traffic is hidden though10:29
psyatwhi mazal10:30
psyatwhell magespawn10:30
psyatwhi sakhi10:30
magespawnhowdy psyatw10:30
psyatwhi zeref10:30
mazalHi psyatw 10:30
psyatwand Symmetria10:30
magespawnvpn would provide an extra layer of protection from the various threats on the internet10:31
mazalDoesn't everybody say linux is secure ?10:32
Kilosif it was totally secure there wouldnt be ufw and clam10:33
mazalIs something I wonder about a lot , and you get conflicting answers. One group say it's secure you don't need things like av , but another group say you do10:33
Kilosfrom what i see clam checks emails and drives but only finds threats with windows stuff10:35
mazalSo does linux really have a good av that sees linux virusses ?10:35
magespawnnot as far as i know mazal10:36
mazalWhat's ufw Kilos ?10:36
magespawnbut maybe one of the guys with mor eadmin experience can give a better answer10:36
Kilosmethinks the biggest threat is from linux crackers10:37
Kilosfirewall mazal 10:37
magespawnand a linux machine can still transmit a windows virus10:37
mazalOom Kilos , crackers you use at Cristmas , those are hackers10:37
Kilosi think one is advised to use the firewall and clamav or clamtk on servers10:37
Kilosno man10:37
mazallol , couldn't resist that one sorry :)10:38
Kiloscrackers are maliscious hackers10:38
Kiloshehe10:38
KilosMaaz, spel maliscious10:38
MaazKilos: Huh?10:38
mazalAny hacker is maliscious imo10:38
mazalHe is where he is not supposed to be10:38
Kilosno man they do dev work10:39
magespawnhttp://www.techrepublic.com/blog/security/hacker-vs-cracker/140010:39
Kilosmalicious10:39
magespawnpeople hack all sorts of things10:45
magespawnWho are the criminals whn the criminals write the laws?10:46
magespawns/whn/when10:46
Kiloslol10:49
Kilosmazal, you should know some software has be be hacked to make it work in your situation10:50
Kilosthats hacking inna good way10:50
mazalThat was an interesting read ta magespawn 10:55
Kilosso magespawn a vpn gives you security between you and them and after that the prob is theirs?10:55
magespawnyw mazal10:55
magespawnbasically, but it hids your ip address on the internet, so any attacks that are ip based are easier to deal with10:56
magespawnhttp://netforbeginners.about.com/b/2013/03/20/why-use-a-vpn-here-are-10-good-reasons.htm10:57
Kiloshttp://lifehacker.com/5900969/build-your-own-vpn-to-pimp-out-your-gaming-streaming-remote-access-and-oh-yeah-security11:01
Kilos your VPN will slow down your connection speed by 25% - 50%11:06
Kilosai!11:06
magespawndepending, our connections are so slow we probably will not see a difference11:07
Kiloslol11:07
magespawnusing my computers for my vpn means all the traffic goes through my adsl, i am just looking to have my ip masked11:08
mazalWe experience that performance problem at work.11:10
mazalOur department went over to vpn and we have a big loss of speed on our network11:10
Kilosmagespawn, look at openvpn in the repos11:13
magespawnKilos: that is the software, have it installed11:13
Kilosah11:14
Kilossee what this shows11:14
Kiloshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBpfrg3z0TI11:15
Kilosheres a way to hide your ip11:17
Kiloshttp://whatismyipaddress.com/hide-ip11:17
Kilosreadable not youtube11:17
Kiloshttp://www.hidemyass.com/11:18
Kiloshehe11:19
Kilosand they say free11:19
Kilosohi superfly 11:19
Kilosyou sneak in so quietly with your setup11:19
superflyyeah, busy busy11:38
mazalenjoy the evening everyone12:41
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superflyMaaz: is www.google.com down?14:15
Maazsuperfly: No, it's just you14:15
superfly:-)14:15
Kiloslol14:15
superflyJust showing off :-P14:15
magespawnindeed14:17
magespawncan never seem to remember the way to ask14:17
tonberry352_Maaz: how do you feel?14:19
Maaztonberry352_: I already know stuff about how14:19
KilosMaaz, how14:26
MaazKilos: How do you type so quick?14:26
Kiloswith difficulty14:26
Kiloshi tumbleweed you gonna be at tonights meeting?14:28
SuperhumanMaaz: is www.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.com down?14:31
MaazSuperhuman: No, it's just you14:31
Superhumangood14:32
Superhumanjust checking...14:32
SuperhumanSee laterz14:32
Kilosok14:32
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kbmonkeyi can't believe its time for another meet. i have no perception of time!15:04
Kiloshi kbmonkey 15:25
Kilosdont forget this was like three weeks not an month because last months was postponed by a week15:26
kbmonkeytrue15:27
Kilosso you not that old and forgetful yet15:28
Kilosbe happy15:28
Kiloshi not_found lost again are ye16:22
Squirmevening16:35
Kiloshi Squirm 16:36
nuvolarimeh. going home now16:45
nuvolaripoop hit the fan 16:45
Kiloseish16:45
Kilosgo safe16:45
* inetpro might be a bit late for the meeting 16:50
Kilos10 secs is fine16:51
Kiloshehe16:51
inetproKilos: eish man!16:51
Kilosas long as you make it inetpro 16:52
Kilosyou got probs?16:52
inetproI just got home and I need some time to shake off the blue Monday :-)16:52
Kilosthats a feeble excuse16:52
Kiloshave a quick bath16:52
inetprodinner is almost ready16:53
Kilosand coffeeeeeee16:53
Kilosya food is good too16:53
SuperhumanMaaz: coffee on17:04
* Maaz puts the kettle on17:04
KilosMaaz, coffee please17:05
MaazKilos: Righto17:05
SuperhumanEvening all17:05
Vince-0Haai17:06
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SmilyBorghey all17:06
Kiloshi Superhuman SmilyBorg 17:06
MaazCoffee's ready for Superhuman and Kilos!17:08
KilosMaaz, ty17:08
MaazYou are welcome Kilos17:08
SuperhumanMaaz: botsnack17:09
MaazThank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp17:09
* Superhuman devours coffee17:09
Kiloshi nocware 17:11
Vince-0SmilyBorg: ltns17:11
nocwareKilos: hey17:11
Vince-0See that mail amount some Free Software talk? Dunno wots it is17:12
SmilyBorgya. saw that. just been under the weather17:12
magespawnevening all17:13
Kiloshi magespawn 17:13
KilosSmilyBorg, you better now?17:15
Kilosai! vince has that voda connection again17:15
Vince-0Ita17:15
Vince-0I'm on WiFi and DSL17:15
Kilosyou got 8ta probs?17:16
Vince-0PC is acting up17:16
Kilosah17:16
Vince-0(And chat)17:16
Kiloswb kbmonkey 17:18
Vince-0Ew bsod kernel error, winblows17:18
Kiloshehe17:18
Kiloshi theblazehen 17:18
theblazehenhi Kilos 17:18
Superhumanwell there's your problem, Vince-0 17:19
Kilosya someone had a good cure for it17:19
kbmonkeymore agenda item suggestions?17:19
kbmonkeyI got nothing17:19
Kilosboot from ubuntu dvd and choose earase and use complete drive17:19
Kilospeeps are too busy to even think about agenda items kbmonkey 17:20
Superhumankbmonkey: regaining access to the ubuntu-za google calendar?17:20
Superhumanor creating a new one17:20
kbmonkeythanks Superhuman 17:22
Superhumannp17:23
refusenikhey guys, connecting from our monthly JoziLUG meetup17:26
* Vince-0 tries Vodacom Internet17:26
Kiloshi refusenik 17:26
refusenikhi17:27
* nuvolari tries to recover from the day17:27
nuvolarialoha17:27
nuvolarihi refusenik 17:27
Kiloslo nuvolari 17:27
nuvolarilo oom Kilos, Vince-0 17:28
kbmonkeyis monday over yet...?17:28
Kiloshehe after the meeting17:28
nuvolarimy todo list says it didn't start yet :-/17:28
refusenikbig news guys: we just joined the windows machine to the Samba 4 domain17:29
kbmonkeytodo list <-> undone list :p17:29
Vince-0Naas17:29
nuvolariBotha?17:29
Kilostime kbmonkey 17:30
kbmonkeyshall we start in a min?17:30
Kilosya17:31
Vince-0Let's go go go17:31
nuvolariwhere to?17:31
* nuvolari runs17:31
kbmonkeyMaaz, start meeting about Monthly irc meet, July 15th 201317:31
* Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles17:31
Kiloshi  psychicist 17:31
psychicisthi Kilos 17:32
nuvolarialoha17:32
KilosMaaz, I am Miles Sharpe17:32
MaazKilos: Alrighty17:32
nuvolariMaaz: I am Johan Mynhardt17:32
Maaznuvolari: Righto17:32
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Welcome and introduction17:32
MaazCurrent Topic: Welcome and introduction17:32
psychicisthi nuvolari 17:32
kbmonkeyhello Maaz 17:32
Superhumanmaaz: I am Leo Kruger17:32
MaazSuperhuman: Alrighty17:32
magespawnrefusenik: was it difficult17:32
kbmonkeyMaaz, I am Wesley Werner17:32
Maazkbmonkey: Righto17:32
SmilyBorgMaaz: I am Una Karlsen17:32
MaazSmilyBorg: Done17:32
refusenikI am Dan Fowler17:32
Vince-0Maaz: I am Vincent Swart17:32
MaazVince-0: Okay17:32
magespawnMaaz, I am Greg Eames17:32
Maazmagespawn: Yessir17:32
kbmonkeyokay we look almost 10 strong tonight17:33
kbmonkeysay hello everyone17:33
nuvolarihello kbmonkey 17:33
kbmonkeyhello o/17:33
Kilosthe pro is coming17:34
Superhumanaweh17:34
nuvolarilo Superhuman17:34
kbmonkeyhe will be in shortly Kilos ?17:34
Kilosold peeps take longer to recover after a hard days work17:34
Kilosyip17:34
kbmonkeyI think work is the common problem ;)17:34
Kiloshi superfly 17:34
kbmonkeyokay welcome everyone, to our monthly irc meet.17:35
kbmonkeywe do not have a large agenda, but we are here 17:35
Kilosjust in time Cantide 17:35
nuvolarihowdy Cantide 17:35
superflyhi, have things started yet (I can't see, waiting for my backlog to load)17:36
Kilosonly just superfly 17:36
nuvolarisuperfly: you're in time17:36
superflyoh wait, I probably won't even see that...17:36
kbmonkeyjust in time superfly and Cantide - introduce yourselves to Maaz 17:37
nuvolarigetting merry now17:37
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Review previous minutes17:38
MaazCurrent Topic: Review previous minutes17:38
* inetpro takes a seat17:38
inetprogood evening17:38
inetproMaaz: I am Gustav H Meyer17:38
Maazinetpro: Sure17:38
Kiloswb inetpro 17:38
kbmonkeyOur text-only browser friendly previous minutes link is http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-06-24-17-34-16.txt17:38
inetproI see apologies from not_found and queery on g+17:39
kbmonkeylast time we spoke about tracking more events through the G+ page17:39
Kilosaw17:39
Kiloshi georgelappies login with maaz17:40
Kiloshi bomberman 17:40
bombermanhi Kilos 17:40
georgelappieshi Kilos17:40
kbmonkeySo, just to confirm - who has the event creation rights there? So we can know who to contact for our event updates.17:40
* nuvolari pleads not guilty17:41
kbmonkeySuperhuman, this is related to your suggestion about the calendar - I think we moved from google calendar to G+ events...17:41
* Superhuman too17:41
Superhumanthink so too17:41
kbmonkeyokay well I have a better idea - for all your events post the details on the community page at https://plus.google.com/communities/117322247779910275992 - bookmark it.17:42
kbmonkeyyes?17:42
SuperhumanI agree17:43
superflywow, an almost 9 minute lag17:43
inetprokbmonkey: I have three people on admin rights on our g+ page; superfly, Steven Scheffler (who rarely comes here these days) and myself17:43
inetprowith admin rights*17:43
bombermanI'm here!  aka Steven Scheffler. lol17:43
Kiloshehe17:43
inetprobomberman: welcome back sir17:44
Kiloslsflr17:44
Kilossomething like that17:44
Kilossflr17:44
kbmonkeyAh thank you inetpro. So if our neighbourhood Ubuntu peeps have events, you can contact them through the mailing list or post the details on that community page.17:44
inetproanyone is welcome to chatter away on the community page17:45
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Events17:45
MaazCurrent Topic: Events17:45
Kiloskbmonkey, you gotta do agreed with maaz on that17:45
Kilosbut make it a neat link17:45
kbmonkeyMaaz, agreed users to post event details to the list or the G+ community page (https://plus.google.com/communities/117322247779910275992)17:46
MaazAgreed: users to post event details to the list or the G+ community page (https://plus.google.com/communities/117322247779910275992)17:46
KilosMaaz, shorten https://plus.google.com/communities/11732224777991027599217:46
MaazKilos: That reduces to: http://is.gd/66sp3C17:46
kbmonkeyokay, that was last minutes, done. Please shout out your upcoming events now!17:47
kbmonkeybananas17:47
inetprokbmonkey: re events; I see JoziLUG guys mentioning SFD17:47
refusenikyes17:47
refusenikright now, there's a meeting about it in Sandton City17:47
inetproI guess we could all support the initiative17:48
kbmonkeygreat refusenik. 17:48
superflyoh, hey, look, I'17:48
superfly*I'm back17:48
superfly(sortof)17:48
superflybomberman: aka "sfx" ?17:48
superflyMaaz: I am Raoul Snyman17:48
Maazsuperfly: Righto17:48
bombermanyes superfly , sfx too! ;)17:48
refusenikcool17:49
superflybomberman: traitor!17:49
refusenikany suggestions for a venue?17:49
inetprorefusenik: what is the date for SFD this year?17:49
kbmonkeyhang on.. lag incoming17:49
refusenik21 Sep, I think17:49
bombermansuperfly: > wrong chat :P I hang out with HawkiesZA now17:49
kbmonkeyhttp://www.softwarefreedomday.org/17:49
superflybomberman: I know17:50
superflybomberman: the traitor works with me17:50
Kiloshaha17:50
inetproahh Saturday, 21 September 17:50
kbmonkey67 days left to SFD17:50
superflyinetpro: it's usually the 3rd Saturday in September, I think17:50
bombermanreally? haha thats funny superfly. What your agent name?17:50
inetproI guess people on here can start thinking about setting up a Ubuntu desk17:51
superflybomberman: lightwing17:51
superfly*an Ubuntu desk17:52
bombermanSFD > "Any team registered on or before July 21, 2013 will receive a pack of goodies including a big banner, tshirts, stickers, balloons, etc."17:52
inetprosuperfly: well a stand or something like that17:52
kbmonkeyMaaz, agreed to keep an eye on SFD (http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/)17:52
MaazAgreed: to keep an eye on SFD (http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/)17:52
inetprowith official branding etc...17:52
Kilosnee man a must be an17:53
superflyrefusenik: are you guys doing SFD?17:53
bombermanhola lightwing. how small this universe is superfly :)17:53
superflyindeed17:54
inetprobtw, if it boils down to it we can probably have a SFD event in each town or city17:54
superflybomberman: but I have more than an Ingress bone to pick with you, you stood me up for the Ubuntu hour! :-P17:54
superflywell, not quite.17:54
superflyno one said anything on the list17:54
kbmonkeydoes anyone have other events to mention?17:55
bombermansuperfly: > will make is up x 2 :) i'm bored of Ingress now.17:55
bombermanit*17:55
kbmonkeySFD is still 2 months away and made a note of it in Maaz 's memo pad17:55
inetprorefusenik: please let us know how the planning goes and lets take it from there17:56
bombermanShould we put an SFD countdown timer on ubuntuza site?17:56
refusenikyes, we're doing SFD17:56
refusenikyeah, will do17:56
kbmonkeythank you refusenik17:57
kbmonkeyA counter on the site would be mean17:57
refusenikthere's a SFD planning group17:57
inetprobtw, when is document freedom day?17:57
refusenikmailing list17:57
refusenikfor anyone who wants to be involved 17:57
bombermaninetpro: > do you want to release the Zuma spy tapes? lol17:58
inetpro:-)17:58
inetprook, that was in March17:58
inetprobomberman: nee man, we need peeps to be aware of these days17:59
* inetpro just thinking out loud17:59
CantideMaaz, I am Karl Wortmann17:59
MaazCantide: Righto17:59
superflyrefusenik: any publically-linkable web page?17:59
refusenikno18:00
refusenikbesides last year's18:00
refusenikhttp://softwarefreedom.co.za/18:00
bombermanIs there a plan to do it in Cape Town, Durban, Joburg? 18:01
refusenikI don't know beyond Joburg18:01
Cantidewhen is it?18:02
inetproCantide: Saturday, 21 September 18:02
bombermanWe could do something at itsahouse, but I heard they closed down recently? In CT18:02
kbmonkey... lag, am back. its in mid September Cantide 18:02
kbmonkeyhttp://www.softwarefreedomday.org/18:03
Cantideoh, i may not be here then -.-v18:03
superflyrefusenik: is there a ZA profile on the SFD site itself?18:03
Vince-0So what happens on sfd in in joburg? Where do you go public18:03
superflyI should probably check what the counter does before asking anymore stupid questions18:03
inetproVince-0: I think they only have it on the agenda for tonights meeting18:04
bombermanCounter -> static img http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/countdown/banner1-UTC-4-en.png18:04
kbmonkeyVince-0, we can start looking out for a venue? beach? my pc does not like sand very much.18:05
inetproAFAIK their meeting started at 18:3018:05
Vince-0Nice venue at Wits from last year18:05
superflymeh. Intarwebs is SLOW tonight18:05
Vince-0Durban varsities are asleep18:05
kbmonkeyyup18:06
kbmonkeykeeping an eye on sfd then, will doodle some notes on my yellow memo pad while I sit in boring business meetings 18:07
bombermanCape Town could be at UCT. Each faction (cities) should go an brainstorm locations and program?18:07
bombermanlol @ kbmonkey 18:08
inetproI think we can add stuff at http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/201318:08
inetproactually more like http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2013/SouthAfrica18:09
kbmonkeymy browser says no to loading any pages. bookmarking18:09
inetproanyway I think we can move on18:10
Kiloshi Georgl 18:10
Georglevening Kilos18:10
kbmonkeyrighto, let's move on next.18:10
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic closing comments18:11
MaazCurrent Topic: closing comments18:11
kbmonkeyYour chance to say a word, anyone?18:11
magespawnword18:12
kbmonkeyMaaz, minutes so far18:12
MaazMinutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-07-15-17-31-55.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-07-15-17-31-55.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-07-15-17-31-55.html18:12
kbmonkeyhmm, not what I wanted, thanks Maaz 18:12
kbmonkeylol magespawn 18:12
* inetpro wants to talk about meeting schedules18:12
kbmonkeyWell then thanks everyone for your being here18:13
magespawnmore or less?18:13
bombermanI added Cape Town on SFD. woot! http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2013/SouthAfrica18:13
inetproI noticed JoziLUG meetings happening every 3rd Monday of the month at 18:3018:13
bombermanIt seems there can be multiple teams in one city18:13
kbmonkeymeeting schedules inetpro ?18:13
kbmonkeyMaaz, agreed note the SFD ZA page - http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2013/SouthAfrica18:14
MaazAgreed: note the SFD ZA page - http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2013/SouthAfrica18:14
inetprokbmonkey: well I'm not sure whether we have anyone at JoziLUG meetings who would also like to be here18:14
inetprobut perhaps we should consider moving our date18:15
inetproor time18:15
kbmonkeydate for the next irc meet?18:15
Kilosya18:15
magespawntheirs start at 20:30?18:15
Kilosnot the 3rd monday18:15
inetpro18:3018:15
magespawndo they usually take longer than an hour?18:16
kbmonkeyeither date or time. 18:30 or tuesday18:16
inetproI think they actually meet at a venue18:16
inetproperhaps refusenik can tell us more18:17
magespawnwow in real life cool18:17
kbmonkeyit will be safer if we shift dates18:17
Kilosisnt a wednesday a better day18:17
magespawni have it down as the 19th18:17
superflyno, I have Bible study on a Wednesday18:17
Kilosthen weekend recovery is over and monday blues are done too18:17
Kilosah18:17
Kilosthursday?18:17
magespawnaccording to the u untu-za calender18:18
inetprowhat about the 4th monday of each month?18:18
Kilosya inetpro 18:18
kbmonkeyah so it won't conflict with the 4th Monday?18:18
magespawni am easy either way almost any night time works for me18:18
kbmonkeyThat seems like a better idea, clever inetpro 18:19
magespawnas long as it is in the calender i am happy18:19
* inetpro could do with later but don't want to mess up the schedule for everyone else18:19
inetproearly in the evening is family time18:19
Kilos8pm could work18:19
kbmonkeylet's do that then, and point that out on the email list to see if there are any objections18:19
magespawnafter 20:00 is better for me, kids are in bed then18:19
Superhumanagreed18:20
magespawn4th monday @ 20:00 ?18:20
inetprook, then we need to find out who can update the google calendar18:20
Kilosya18:20
kbmonkeyagreed18:20
inetproI think guys like Superhuman don't use g+18:20
magespawninetpro: we thought you did it18:21
kbmonkeyMaaz, agreed move the next irc meet to the 4th Monday 20:0018:21
MaazAgreed: move the next irc meet to the 4th Monday 20:0018:21
Superhumani do use it18:21
inetpromagespawn: that was last updated by drubin18:21
inetproso is everyone happy with just g+ ?18:21
magespawnMaaz seen drubin 18:21
Maazmagespawn: drubin was last seen 6 months, 12 days, 1 hour, 43 minutes and 35 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-01-04 08:38:07 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2013-07-09 03:05:01 PDT18:21
magespawnwow18:21
superfly8pm is offsping's bed time, but these days evenings just don't work for us on the whole18:22
bombermanI will update the website. That events widget is loaded from Google Calendars and pre-loaded for the next 5 years ;)18:22
kbmonkeythanks bomberman 18:22
inetprook I will try to find out how we can update the calendar as well18:22
kbmonkeyplease post the google calendar link on the list for us when that is done18:22
bombermanOkay!18:23
kbmonkeyyay18:23
kbmonkeywell that's it folks18:23
Kilossuperfly, how long does it take to bed them?18:23
superflyKilos: anything from half an hour to an hour and a half.18:24
Kiloswhew18:24
kbmonkeyMaaz, meeting end18:24
Maazkbmonkey: *blink*18:24
inetprowho's our next chair?18:24
Kiloshaha18:24
Kilosnot end meeting?18:24
bombermanThis is the calendar. public. https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=jlfkdi985bpd1p16ddkvdm1e18%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Africa/Harare18:25
kbmonkeyoh yes, next chair votes?18:25
superflylittle children are not a small task to deal with18:25
bombermanIts not updated, but will updated it this week.18:25
superflybomberman: do you have write access to the calendar?18:25
superflyI only seem to have read access18:25
kbmonkeyMaaz, agreed bomberman to update the Google calendar with new meeting dates18:25
MaazAgreed: bomberman to update the Google calendar with new meeting dates18:25
bombermanYes, I have. Hopefully. Otherwise I can create a new one. 18:25
bombermanOk, what is the new dates? 4th Monday @ 8pm-9pm?18:26
kbmonkeyyes, 4th [3~Mmonday 20h00 18:26
inetpro+118:26
inetproand the chair?18:27
Kilosmonkey18:27
inetproanyone else want to take a chance?18:27
Kilosnuvolari, you still here??18:27
kbmonkeymyself to chair, anyone else ?18:27
inetprogoing going...18:27
inetprogone18:28
inetpro+1 for kbmonkey18:28
KilosVince-0, gotta fix his connection or get a linux pc18:28
Vince-0*crickets18:28
kbmonkeygone. i'll grab it.18:28
kbmonkeychirp chirp18:28
inetpro:-)18:28
kbmonkeyMaaz, end meeting18:29
MaazMeeting Ended18:29
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inetprokbmonkey: your timing is good18:29
Kilosty for making it superfly inetpro 18:29
Kilosty for chairing kbmonkey 18:29
kbmonkeyI am creating the next meeting on loco now, pasting the details in...18:30
inetprohopefully we have a longer agenda next time18:30
inetproat least we keep things rolling18:30
Kilosrefusenik, you guys must have ubuntu users in your lug18:30
* inetpro wonders whether ptalug is still alive18:33
bombermanWe can do more research into SFD18:33
inetprobomberman: we should18:33
bombermanit would be great if we could do something at Department of coffee in Khayelitsha. 2-3 centers in greater Cape Town18:34
inetproand bomberman you should come here more often18:34
kbmonkeythe web is frozzen18:35
inetproDepartment of coffee?18:35
kbmonkeyyet ssh still works a bomb18:35
Squirmevening18:35
inetproSquirm: you are late18:35
bombermaninetpro: i come when I can. When I'm not busy kicking superfly 's a$$ on the battlefield :P18:35
Squirmmeh, dinner was had during the meet :/18:35
bombermaninetpro: > Department of Coffee: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Department-of-Coffee/45530602115661518:36
bombermanthats now in Cape Town18:36
Cantidehuh -.- i pretty much missed the meeting entirely18:37
inetprohmm...18:37
kbmonkeyOhkay the new meeting page is http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/623/detail/18:37
Cantidei was here in spirit though :)18:37
kbmonkeyhmm it created duplicate entries when the page timed out and I resubmitted - 18:37
Kilosyou getting slack Cantide 18:37
Cantideyeah :/18:38
Cantidei am -.-v18:38
Cantidewas talking elsewhere18:38
superflybomberman: since when? when we made almost 300 level 8 portals in Cape Town?18:38
Kilosshame on you18:38
Cantidejust around the time of the meeting -.-v18:38
inetprokbmonkey: you have it up for  Sun, 25 Aug. 2013 18:38
kbmonkeyuh, thanks inetpro. I hate date pickers.18:39
Kiloshaha18:39
Vince-0Sweet beans18:39
inetprokbmonkey: that thing is super slow18:40
kbmonkeyinetpro, and it always has been like that. 18:40
kbmonkeyright about now it runs the same speed as the rest of the net ;)18:40
inetprowe need someone to talk to the guys at #ubuntu-meeting18:41
superflyabout?18:41
bomberman2011 SFD CLUG. Anyone has contacts? http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/South%20Africa/Cape%20Town/CLUG18:42
inetprosuperfly: about fixing performance of http://loco.ubuntu.com/18:42
superflyoh18:42
kbmonkeyohkay thanks again all, I am going back to sleep 18:43
superflybomberman: tumbleweed used to organise that18:43
Kilosnight kbmonkey sleep tight18:43
superflybomberman: but he no longer works/studies at UCT18:43
bombermansuperfly: need to recruit new people then18:44
superfly(and it wasn't a great venue either in terms of general accessibility or prominence)18:44
bombermansuperfly: do you have a venue in mind? We could have 2-3 on the day. Just to have some competition going...18:45
superflynot specifically18:45
superflycanal walk would be a good venue, but we'd need company sponsorship18:46
superflyand professional stands 18:46
bombermanMWEB? IS?18:47
Cantidesleep time -.-v good night!18:48
superflymweb unlikely18:49
superflyIS also unlikely18:49
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:50
Vince-0So is a stall + team + install lab 18:50
bombermanI need to read up on SFD first.18:50
Vince-0Cya Kilos18:50
inetprogood night Kilos18:50
magespawnif we can get a list of what is needed then we can look for sponsers18:51
bombermanits also media coverage etc18:51
bombermanhere are some of the past winners http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/en/competition/winners-201018:51
bombermanyou can see they went out really big18:51
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superflyif my internet weren't so slow18:56
bombermanwebchat is fast :D18:57
superflyIRC is fine, it's actual HTTP which seems to be slower than molasses in July18:57
inetprosuperfly: maybe you should try access via a proxy?19:02
superflymake it even slower?19:02
inetproI mean a public proxy19:02
magespawnlater all data just about gone19:03
* inetpro emailed drubin about the calendar19:22
drubinmagespawn: inetpro : it can't be thaaaaat long its long but can't be that long? ;)20:37
inetprodrubin: uh?20:47
inetprodrubin: wb sir!20:47
inetprodrubin: people have almost forgotten that you are the chief :-)20:48
inetproanyway, thanks for the calender permissions20:49
* inetpro updated the dates 20:50
drubininetpro: pleasure!20:50
inetprobomberman: you'll have to do your magic to fix the site20:50
inetproor superfly ^^20:52
inetprobut I guess both are sleeping now already20:52
inetprowhich is a good idea anyway20:52
inetprogood night everyone20:52
BLAZEDppl21:44
BLAZEDor better yet bantu basekhaya21:45
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