=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [05:25] Morning everyone [06:12] hi mazal and others [06:12] hi psychicist [06:50] god cell phone rates in kenya are so cheap [06:50] 45c a minute on pre-paid [07:03] good morning [07:03] morning [07:03] heh man, even the cell phone data here is dirt cheap [07:04] R114 gets you 1.5gig of data here [07:04] and thats on pre-paid and its the more expensive low volume bundle [07:04] and data doesnt expire for 6 months [07:15] hi inetpro Symmetria [07:16] hi Vince-0 [07:19] haai [07:20] hello Kilos [07:21] did you get bitlbee working [07:21] hehe [07:23] o/ mornings [07:24] lo nuvolari [07:25] good morning [07:25] Maaz: coffee on [07:25] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [07:26] hi charl [07:26] Maaz, coffee please [07:26] Kilos: Yessir [07:28] hi Kilos [07:28] Maaz, dag [07:28] Dag sê my menslike vriend [07:29] Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! [07:30] Maaz, danke [07:30] Bitteschön [07:30] Maaz: thanks [07:30] charl: No problem [07:45] morning all [07:45] hi ThatGraemeGuy [08:16] hi psyatw [08:20] hi Kilos [08:21] hi ThatGraemeGuy [08:21] hi psyatw [08:34] good day all [08:34] hi magespawn [08:35] meeting tonight [08:35] yip [08:36] hi charl [08:40] hi Xethron [08:43] Heya Kilos [09:17] does anyone here know any seriously competant coders/scripters who are available to do some work for 2 weeks or something [09:17] money will be? really decent [09:18] whoever the developer is, they'd need to sign a pretty strict NDA as well [09:19] no all the ones i know are full time employed [09:19] ugh [09:19] Im having a mission finding someone [09:22] http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/03/how-to-hire-a-programmer.html [09:23] hi zeref sakhi [09:23] google not helping Symmetria ? [09:26] Morning Kilos and #ubuntu-za [09:33] Symmetria, what language ? [09:34] And looking for just one person or a whole team ? [09:53] i am looking for a free vpn service, any recommendations? [10:12] found one but its only free for 48 hours [10:12] what you wanna do magespawn ? [10:12] http://vpnsolution.us/free_vpn_account.php [10:18] others say free setup [10:18] free is a funny word nowadays [10:19] yup free always is [10:20] going to try these guys http://www.vpnbook.com/freevpn [10:20] free setup then $8 a month [10:21] http://www.supervpn.net/south-africa-vpn.html [10:22] Free Setup and Unlimited Bandwidth [10:23] the first guys are free setup only [10:25] what is the idea of a VPN? [10:25] you still limited by your ISP [10:27] i read what is a vpn and why you should use one, but dont see any advantage over using your own network [10:28] yes the idea is that people 'cannot' track where you are going and what you are doing [10:28] but you can control that from your pc too, not so? [10:29] depending on how it is set up it allows you to access local network services remotely [10:29] I still struggle to understand vpn [10:29] yes you can this would mean all the traffic is hidden though [10:30] hi mazal [10:30] hell magespawn [10:30] hi sakhi [10:30] howdy psyatw [10:30] hi zeref [10:30] Hi psyatw [10:30] and Symmetria [10:31] vpn would provide an extra layer of protection from the various threats on the internet [10:32] Doesn't everybody say linux is secure ? [10:33] if it was totally secure there wouldnt be ufw and clam [10:33] Is something I wonder about a lot , and you get conflicting answers. One group say it's secure you don't need things like av , but another group say you do [10:35] from what i see clam checks emails and drives but only finds threats with windows stuff [10:35] So does linux really have a good av that sees linux virusses ? [10:36] not as far as i know mazal [10:36] What's ufw Kilos ? [10:36] but maybe one of the guys with mor eadmin experience can give a better answer [10:37] methinks the biggest threat is from linux crackers [10:37] firewall mazal [10:37] and a linux machine can still transmit a windows virus [10:37] Oom Kilos , crackers you use at Cristmas , those are hackers [10:37] i think one is advised to use the firewall and clamav or clamtk on servers [10:37] no man [10:38] lol , couldn't resist that one sorry :) [10:38] crackers are maliscious hackers [10:38] hehe [10:38] Maaz, spel maliscious [10:38] Kilos: Huh? [10:38] Any hacker is maliscious imo [10:38] He is where he is not supposed to be [10:39] no man they do dev work [10:39] http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/security/hacker-vs-cracker/1400 [10:39] malicious [10:45] people hack all sorts of things [10:46] Who are the criminals whn the criminals write the laws? [10:46] s/whn/when [10:49] lol [10:50] mazal, you should know some software has be be hacked to make it work in your situation [10:50] thats hacking inna good way [10:55] That was an interesting read ta magespawn [10:55] so magespawn a vpn gives you security between you and them and after that the prob is theirs? [10:55] yw mazal [10:56] basically, but it hids your ip address on the internet, so any attacks that are ip based are easier to deal with [10:57] http://netforbeginners.about.com/b/2013/03/20/why-use-a-vpn-here-are-10-good-reasons.htm [11:01] http://lifehacker.com/5900969/build-your-own-vpn-to-pimp-out-your-gaming-streaming-remote-access-and-oh-yeah-security [11:06] your VPN will slow down your connection speed by 25% - 50% [11:06] ai! [11:07] depending, our connections are so slow we probably will not see a difference [11:07] lol [11:08] using my computers for my vpn means all the traffic goes through my adsl, i am just looking to have my ip masked [11:10] We experience that performance problem at work. [11:10] Our department went over to vpn and we have a big loss of speed on our network [11:13] magespawn, look at openvpn in the repos [11:13] Kilos: that is the software, have it installed [11:14] ah [11:14] see what this shows [11:15] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBpfrg3z0TI [11:17] heres a way to hide your ip [11:17] http://whatismyipaddress.com/hide-ip [11:17] readable not youtube [11:18] http://www.hidemyass.com/ [11:19] hehe [11:19] and they say free [11:19] ohi superfly [11:19] you sneak in so quietly with your setup [11:38] yeah, busy busy [12:41] enjoy the evening everyone === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [14:15] Maaz: is www.google.com down? [14:15] superfly: No, it's just you [14:15] :-) [14:15] lol [14:15] Just showing off :-P [14:17] indeed [14:17] can never seem to remember the way to ask [14:19] Maaz: how do you feel? [14:19] tonberry352_: I already know stuff about how [14:26] Maaz, how [14:26] Kilos: How do you type so quick? [14:26] with difficulty [14:28] hi tumbleweed you gonna be at tonights meeting? [14:31] Maaz: is www.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.com down? [14:31] Superhuman: No, it's just you [14:32] good [14:32] just checking... [14:32] See laterz [14:32] ok === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [15:04] i can't believe its time for another meet. i have no perception of time! [15:25] hi kbmonkey [15:26] dont forget this was like three weeks not an month because last months was postponed by a week [15:27] true [15:28] so you not that old and forgetful yet [15:28] be happy [16:22] hi not_found lost again are ye [16:35] evening [16:36] hi Squirm [16:45] meh. going home now [16:45] poop hit the fan [16:45] eish [16:45] go safe [16:50] * inetpro might be a bit late for the meeting [16:51] 10 secs is fine [16:51] hehe [16:51] Kilos: eish man! [16:52] as long as you make it inetpro [16:52] you got probs? [16:52] I just got home and I need some time to shake off the blue Monday :-) [16:52] thats a feeble excuse [16:52] have a quick bath [16:53] dinner is almost ready [16:53] and coffeeeeeee [16:53] ya food is good too [17:04] Maaz: coffee on [17:04] * Maaz puts the kettle on [17:05] Maaz, coffee please [17:05] Kilos: Righto [17:05] Evening all [17:06] Haai === SmilyBorg_h is now known as SmilyBorg [17:06] hey all [17:06] hi Superhuman SmilyBorg [17:08] Coffee's ready for Superhuman and Kilos! [17:08] Maaz, ty [17:08] You are welcome Kilos [17:09] Maaz: botsnack [17:09] Thank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp [17:09] * Superhuman devours coffee [17:11] hi nocware [17:11] SmilyBorg: ltns [17:11] Kilos: hey [17:12] See that mail amount some Free Software talk? Dunno wots it is [17:12] ya. saw that. just been under the weather [17:13] evening all [17:13] hi magespawn [17:15] SmilyBorg, you better now? [17:15] ai! vince has that voda connection again [17:15] Ita [17:15] I'm on WiFi and DSL [17:16] you got 8ta probs? [17:16] PC is acting up [17:16] ah [17:16] (And chat) [17:18] wb kbmonkey [17:18] Ew bsod kernel error, winblows [17:18] hehe [17:18] hi theblazehen [17:18] hi Kilos [17:19] well there's your problem, Vince-0 [17:19] ya someone had a good cure for it [17:19] more agenda item suggestions? [17:19] I got nothing [17:19] boot from ubuntu dvd and choose earase and use complete drive [17:20] peeps are too busy to even think about agenda items kbmonkey [17:20] kbmonkey: regaining access to the ubuntu-za google calendar? [17:20] or creating a new one [17:22] thanks Superhuman [17:23] np [17:26] hey guys, connecting from our monthly JoziLUG meetup [17:26] * Vince-0 tries Vodacom Internet [17:26] hi refusenik [17:27] hi [17:27] * nuvolari tries to recover from the day [17:27] aloha [17:27] hi refusenik [17:27] lo nuvolari [17:28] lo oom Kilos, Vince-0 [17:28] is monday over yet...? [17:28] hehe after the meeting [17:28] my todo list says it didn't start yet :-/ [17:29] big news guys: we just joined the windows machine to the Samba 4 domain [17:29] todo list <-> undone list :p [17:29] Naas [17:29] Botha? [17:30] time kbmonkey [17:30] shall we start in a min? [17:31] ya [17:31] Let's go go go [17:31] where to? [17:31] * nuvolari runs [17:31] Maaz, start meeting about Monthly irc meet, July 15th 2013 [17:31] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [17:31] hi psychicist [17:32] hi Kilos [17:32] aloha [17:32] Maaz, I am Miles Sharpe [17:32] Kilos: Alrighty [17:32] Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt [17:32] nuvolari: Righto [17:32] Maaz, topic Welcome and introduction [17:32] Current Topic: Welcome and introduction [17:32] hi nuvolari [17:32] hello Maaz [17:32] maaz: I am Leo Kruger [17:32] Superhuman: Alrighty [17:32] refusenik: was it difficult [17:32] Maaz, I am Wesley Werner [17:32] kbmonkey: Righto [17:32] Maaz: I am Una Karlsen [17:32] SmilyBorg: Done [17:32] I am Dan Fowler [17:32] Maaz: I am Vincent Swart [17:32] Vince-0: Okay [17:32] Maaz, I am Greg Eames [17:32] magespawn: Yessir [17:33] okay we look almost 10 strong tonight [17:33] say hello everyone [17:33] hello kbmonkey [17:33] hello o/ [17:34] the pro is coming [17:34] aweh [17:34] lo Superhuman [17:34] he will be in shortly Kilos ? [17:34] old peeps take longer to recover after a hard days work [17:34] yip [17:34] I think work is the common problem ;) [17:34] hi superfly [17:35] okay welcome everyone, to our monthly irc meet. [17:35] we do not have a large agenda, but we are here [17:35] just in time Cantide [17:35] howdy Cantide [17:36] hi, have things started yet (I can't see, waiting for my backlog to load) [17:36] only just superfly [17:36] superfly: you're in time [17:36] oh wait, I probably won't even see that... [17:37] just in time superfly and Cantide - introduce yourselves to Maaz [17:37] getting merry now [17:38] Maaz, topic Review previous minutes [17:38] Current Topic: Review previous minutes [17:38] * inetpro takes a seat [17:38] good evening [17:38] Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer [17:38] inetpro: Sure [17:38] wb inetpro [17:38] Our text-only browser friendly previous minutes link is http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-06-24-17-34-16.txt [17:39] I see apologies from not_found and queery on g+ [17:39] last time we spoke about tracking more events through the G+ page [17:39] aw [17:40] hi georgelappies login with maaz [17:40] hi bomberman [17:40] hi Kilos [17:40] hi Kilos [17:40] So, just to confirm - who has the event creation rights there? So we can know who to contact for our event updates. [17:41] * nuvolari pleads not guilty [17:41] Superhuman, this is related to your suggestion about the calendar - I think we moved from google calendar to G+ events... [17:41] * Superhuman too [17:41] think so too [17:42] okay well I have a better idea - for all your events post the details on the community page at https://plus.google.com/communities/117322247779910275992 - bookmark it. [17:42] yes? [17:43] I agree [17:43] wow, an almost 9 minute lag [17:43] kbmonkey: I have three people on admin rights on our g+ page; superfly, Steven Scheffler (who rarely comes here these days) and myself [17:43] with admin rights* [17:43] I'm here! aka Steven Scheffler. lol [17:43] hehe [17:44] bomberman: welcome back sir [17:44] lsflr [17:44] something like that [17:44] sflr [17:44] Ah thank you inetpro. So if our neighbourhood Ubuntu peeps have events, you can contact them through the mailing list or post the details on that community page. [17:45] anyone is welcome to chatter away on the community page [17:45] Maaz, topic Events [17:45] Current Topic: Events [17:45] kbmonkey, you gotta do agreed with maaz on that [17:45] but make it a neat link [17:46] Maaz, agreed users to post event details to the list or the G+ community page (https://plus.google.com/communities/117322247779910275992) [17:46] Agreed: users to post event details to the list or the G+ community page (https://plus.google.com/communities/117322247779910275992) [17:46] Maaz, shorten https://plus.google.com/communities/117322247779910275992 [17:46] Kilos: That reduces to: http://is.gd/66sp3C [17:47] okay, that was last minutes, done. Please shout out your upcoming events now! [17:47] bananas [17:47] kbmonkey: re events; I see JoziLUG guys mentioning SFD [17:47] yes [17:47] right now, there's a meeting about it in Sandton City [17:48] I guess we could all support the initiative [17:48] great refusenik. [17:48] oh, hey, look, I' [17:48] *I'm back [17:48] (sortof) [17:48] bomberman: aka "sfx" ? [17:48] Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [17:48] superfly: Righto [17:48] yes superfly , sfx too! ;) [17:49] cool [17:49] bomberman: traitor! [17:49] any suggestions for a venue? [17:49] refusenik: what is the date for SFD this year? [17:49] hang on.. lag incoming [17:49] 21 Sep, I think [17:49] superfly: > wrong chat :P I hang out with HawkiesZA now [17:49] http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/ [17:50] bomberman: I know [17:50] bomberman: the traitor works with me [17:50] haha [17:50] ahh Saturday, 21 September [17:50] 67 days left to SFD [17:50] inetpro: it's usually the 3rd Saturday in September, I think [17:50] really? haha thats funny superfly. What your agent name? [17:51] I guess people on here can start thinking about setting up a Ubuntu desk [17:51] bomberman: lightwing [17:52] *an Ubuntu desk [17:52] SFD > "Any team registered on or before July 21, 2013 will receive a pack of goodies including a big banner, tshirts, stickers, balloons, etc." [17:52] superfly: well a stand or something like that [17:52] Maaz, agreed to keep an eye on SFD (http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/) [17:52] Agreed: to keep an eye on SFD (http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/) [17:52] with official branding etc... [17:53] nee man a must be an [17:53] refusenik: are you guys doing SFD? [17:53] hola lightwing. how small this universe is superfly :) [17:54] indeed [17:54] btw, if it boils down to it we can probably have a SFD event in each town or city [17:54] bomberman: but I have more than an Ingress bone to pick with you, you stood me up for the Ubuntu hour! :-P [17:54] well, not quite. [17:54] no one said anything on the list [17:55] does anyone have other events to mention? [17:55] superfly: > will make is up x 2 :) i'm bored of Ingress now. [17:55] it* [17:55] SFD is still 2 months away and made a note of it in Maaz 's memo pad [17:56] refusenik: please let us know how the planning goes and lets take it from there [17:56] Should we put an SFD countdown timer on ubuntuza site? [17:56] yes, we're doing SFD [17:56] yeah, will do [17:57] thank you refusenik [17:57] A counter on the site would be mean [17:57] there's a SFD planning group [17:57] btw, when is document freedom day? [17:57] mailing list [17:57] for anyone who wants to be involved [17:58] inetpro: > do you want to release the Zuma spy tapes? lol [17:58] :-) [17:58] ok, that was in March [17:59] bomberman: nee man, we need peeps to be aware of these days [17:59] * inetpro just thinking out loud [17:59] Maaz, I am Karl Wortmann [17:59] Cantide: Righto [17:59] refusenik: any publically-linkable web page? [18:00] no [18:00] besides last year's [18:00]