[05:25] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:12] <Kilos> hi mazal and others
[06:12] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[06:50] <Symmetria> god cell phone rates in kenya are so cheap
[06:50] <Symmetria> 45c a minute on pre-paid 
[07:03] <inetpro> good morning
[07:03] <Symmetria> morning
[07:03] <Symmetria> heh man, even the cell phone data here is dirt cheap
[07:04] <Symmetria> R114 gets you 1.5gig of data here 
[07:04] <Symmetria> and thats on pre-paid and its the more expensive low volume bundle
[07:04] <Symmetria> and data doesnt expire for 6 months
[07:15] <Kilos> hi inetpro Symmetria 
[07:16] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:19] <Vince-0> haai
[07:20] <inetpro> hello Kilos
[07:21] <Kilos> did you get bitlbee working
[07:21] <Kilos> hehe
[07:23] <nuvolari> o/ mornings
[07:24] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[07:25] <charl> good morning
[07:25] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[07:25]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[07:26] <Kilos> hi charl 
[07:26] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[07:26] <Maaz> Kilos: Yessir
[07:28] <charl> hi Kilos 
[07:28] <Kilos> Maaz, dag
[07:28] <Maaz> Dag sê my menslike vriend
[07:29] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[07:30] <Kilos> Maaz, danke
[07:30] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[07:30] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[07:30] <Maaz> charl: No problem
[07:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[07:45] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[08:16] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[08:20] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:21] <charl> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[08:21] <charl> hi psyatw 
[08:34] <magespawn> good day all
[08:34] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[08:35] <magespawn> meeting tonight
[08:35] <Kilos> yip
[08:36] <psyatw> hi charl
[08:40] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[08:43] <Xethron> Heya Kilos 
[09:17] <Symmetria> does anyone here know any seriously competant coders/scripters who are available to do some work for 2 weeks or something 
[09:17] <Symmetria> money will be? really decent 
[09:18] <Symmetria> whoever the developer is, they'd need to sign a pretty strict NDA as well
[09:19] <magespawn> no all the ones i know are full time employed
[09:19] <Symmetria> ugh
[09:19] <Symmetria> Im having a mission finding someone 
[09:22] <Kilos> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/03/how-to-hire-a-programmer.html
[09:23] <Kilos> hi zeref sakhi 
[09:23] <Kilos> google not helping Symmetria ?
[09:26] <sakhi> Morning Kilos and #ubuntu-za
[09:33] <mazal> Symmetria, what language ?
[09:34] <mazal> And looking for just one person or a whole team ?
[09:53] <magespawn> i am looking for a free vpn service, any recommendations?
[10:12] <Kilos> found one but its only free for 48 hours
[10:12] <Kilos> what you wanna do magespawn ?
[10:12] <Kilos> http://vpnsolution.us/free_vpn_account.php
[10:18] <Kilos> others say free setup
[10:18] <Kilos> free is a funny word nowadays
[10:19] <magespawn> yup free always is
[10:20] <magespawn> going to try these guys http://www.vpnbook.com/freevpn
[10:20] <Kilos> free setup then $8 a month
[10:21] <Kilos> http://www.supervpn.net/south-africa-vpn.html
[10:22] <Kilos>  Free Setup and Unlimited Bandwidth
[10:23] <magespawn> the first guys are free setup only
[10:25] <Kilos> what is the idea of a VPN?
[10:25] <Kilos> you still limited by your ISP
[10:27] <Kilos> i read what is a vpn and why you should use one, but dont see any advantage over using your own network
[10:28] <magespawn> yes the idea is that people 'cannot' track where you are going and what you are doing
[10:28] <Kilos> but you can control that from your pc too, not so?
[10:29] <magespawn> depending on how it is set up it allows you to access local network services remotely
[10:29] <mazal> I still struggle to understand vpn
[10:29] <magespawn> yes you can this would mean all the traffic is hidden though
[10:30] <psyatw> hi mazal
[10:30] <psyatw> hell magespawn
[10:30] <psyatw> hi sakhi
[10:30] <magespawn> howdy psyatw
[10:30] <psyatw> hi zeref
[10:30] <mazal> Hi psyatw 
[10:30] <psyatw> and Symmetria
[10:31] <magespawn> vpn would provide an extra layer of protection from the various threats on the internet
[10:32] <mazal> Doesn't everybody say linux is secure ?
[10:33] <Kilos> if it was totally secure there wouldnt be ufw and clam
[10:33] <mazal> Is something I wonder about a lot , and you get conflicting answers. One group say it's secure you don't need things like av , but another group say you do
[10:35] <Kilos> from what i see clam checks emails and drives but only finds threats with windows stuff
[10:35] <mazal> So does linux really have a good av that sees linux virusses ?
[10:36] <magespawn> not as far as i know mazal
[10:36] <mazal> What's ufw Kilos ?
[10:36] <magespawn> but maybe one of the guys with mor eadmin experience can give a better answer
[10:37] <Kilos> methinks the biggest threat is from linux crackers
[10:37] <Kilos> firewall mazal 
[10:37] <magespawn> and a linux machine can still transmit a windows virus
[10:37] <mazal> Oom Kilos , crackers you use at Cristmas , those are hackers
[10:37] <Kilos> i think one is advised to use the firewall and clamav or clamtk on servers
[10:37] <Kilos> no man
[10:38] <mazal> lol , couldn't resist that one sorry :)
[10:38] <Kilos> crackers are maliscious hackers
[10:38] <Kilos> hehe
[10:38] <Kilos> Maaz, spel maliscious
[10:38] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[10:38] <mazal> Any hacker is maliscious imo
[10:38] <mazal> He is where he is not supposed to be
[10:39] <Kilos> no man they do dev work
[10:39] <magespawn> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/security/hacker-vs-cracker/1400
[10:39] <Kilos> malicious
[10:45] <magespawn> people hack all sorts of things
[10:46] <magespawn> Who are the criminals whn the criminals write the laws?
[10:46] <magespawn> s/whn/when
[10:49] <Kilos> lol
[10:50] <Kilos> mazal, you should know some software has be be hacked to make it work in your situation
[10:50] <Kilos> thats hacking inna good way
[10:55] <mazal> That was an interesting read ta magespawn 
[10:55] <Kilos> so magespawn a vpn gives you security between you and them and after that the prob is theirs?
[10:55] <magespawn> yw mazal
[10:56] <magespawn> basically, but it hids your ip address on the internet, so any attacks that are ip based are easier to deal with
[10:57] <magespawn> http://netforbeginners.about.com/b/2013/03/20/why-use-a-vpn-here-are-10-good-reasons.htm
[11:01] <Kilos> http://lifehacker.com/5900969/build-your-own-vpn-to-pimp-out-your-gaming-streaming-remote-access-and-oh-yeah-security
[11:06] <Kilos>  your VPN will slow down your connection speed by 25% - 50%
[11:06] <Kilos> ai!
[11:07] <magespawn> depending, our connections are so slow we probably will not see a difference
[11:07] <Kilos> lol
[11:08] <magespawn> using my computers for my vpn means all the traffic goes through my adsl, i am just looking to have my ip masked
[11:10] <mazal> We experience that performance problem at work.
[11:10] <mazal> Our department went over to vpn and we have a big loss of speed on our network
[11:13] <Kilos> magespawn, look at openvpn in the repos
[11:13] <magespawn> Kilos: that is the software, have it installed
[11:14] <Kilos> ah
[11:14] <Kilos> see what this shows
[11:15] <Kilos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBpfrg3z0TI
[11:17] <Kilos> heres a way to hide your ip
[11:17] <Kilos> http://whatismyipaddress.com/hide-ip
[11:17] <Kilos> readable not youtube
[11:18] <Kilos> http://www.hidemyass.com/
[11:19] <Kilos> hehe
[11:19] <Kilos> and they say free
[11:19] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[11:19] <Kilos> you sneak in so quietly with your setup
[11:38] <superfly> yeah, busy busy
[12:41] <mazal> enjoy the evening everyone
[14:15] <superfly> Maaz: is www.google.com down?
[14:15] <Maaz> superfly: No, it's just you
[14:15] <superfly> :-)
[14:15] <Kilos> lol
[14:15] <superfly> Just showing off :-P
[14:17] <magespawn> indeed
[14:17] <magespawn> can never seem to remember the way to ask
[14:19] <tonberry352_> Maaz: how do you feel?
[14:19] <Maaz> tonberry352_: I already know stuff about how
[14:26] <Kilos> Maaz, how
[14:26] <Maaz> Kilos: How do you type so quick?
[14:26] <Kilos> with difficulty
[14:28] <Kilos> hi tumbleweed you gonna be at tonights meeting?
[14:31] <Superhuman> Maaz: is www.supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.com down?
[14:31] <Maaz> Superhuman: No, it's just you
[14:32] <Superhuman> good
[14:32] <Superhuman> just checking...
[14:32] <Superhuman> See laterz
[14:32] <Kilos> ok
[15:04] <kbmonkey> i can't believe its time for another meet. i have no perception of time!
[15:25] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[15:26] <Kilos> dont forget this was like three weeks not an month because last months was postponed by a week
[15:27] <kbmonkey> true
[15:28] <Kilos> so you not that old and forgetful yet
[15:28] <Kilos> be happy
[16:22] <Kilos> hi not_found lost again are ye
[16:35] <Squirm> evening
[16:36] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[16:45] <nuvolari> meh. going home now
[16:45] <nuvolari> poop hit the fan 
[16:45] <Kilos> eish
[16:45] <Kilos> go safe
[16:50]  * inetpro might be a bit late for the meeting 
[16:51] <Kilos> 10 secs is fine
[16:51] <Kilos> hehe
[16:51] <inetpro> Kilos: eish man!
[16:52] <Kilos> as long as you make it inetpro 
[16:52] <Kilos> you got probs?
[16:52] <inetpro> I just got home and I need some time to shake off the blue Monday :-)
[16:52] <Kilos> thats a feeble excuse
[16:52] <Kilos> have a quick bath
[16:53] <inetpro> dinner is almost ready
[16:53] <Kilos> and coffeeeeeee
[16:53] <Kilos> ya food is good too
[17:04] <Superhuman> Maaz: coffee on
[17:04]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[17:05] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[17:05] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[17:05] <Superhuman> Evening all
[17:06] <Vince-0> Haai
[17:06] <SmilyBorg> hey all
[17:06] <Kilos> hi Superhuman SmilyBorg 
[17:08] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Superhuman and Kilos!
[17:08] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[17:08] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[17:09] <Superhuman> Maaz: botsnack
[17:09] <Maaz> Thank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp
[17:09]  * Superhuman devours coffee
[17:11] <Kilos> hi nocware 
[17:11] <Vince-0> SmilyBorg: ltns
[17:11] <nocware> Kilos: hey
[17:12] <Vince-0> See that mail amount some Free Software talk? Dunno wots it is
[17:12] <SmilyBorg> ya. saw that. just been under the weather
[17:13] <magespawn> evening all
[17:13] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:15] <Kilos> SmilyBorg, you better now?
[17:15] <Kilos> ai! vince has that voda connection again
[17:15] <Vince-0> Ita
[17:15] <Vince-0> I'm on WiFi and DSL
[17:16] <Kilos> you got 8ta probs?
[17:16] <Vince-0> PC is acting up
[17:16] <Kilos> ah
[17:16] <Vince-0> (And chat)
[17:18] <Kilos> wb kbmonkey 
[17:18] <Vince-0> Ew bsod kernel error, winblows
[17:18] <Kilos> hehe
[17:18] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[17:18] <theblazehen> hi Kilos 
[17:19] <Superhuman> well there's your problem, Vince-0 
[17:19] <Kilos> ya someone had a good cure for it
[17:19] <kbmonkey> more agenda item suggestions?
[17:19] <kbmonkey> I got nothing
[17:19] <Kilos> boot from ubuntu dvd and choose earase and use complete drive
[17:20] <Kilos> peeps are too busy to even think about agenda items kbmonkey 
[17:20] <Superhuman> kbmonkey: regaining access to the ubuntu-za google calendar?
[17:20] <Superhuman> or creating a new one
[17:22] <kbmonkey> thanks Superhuman 
[17:23] <Superhuman> np
[17:26] <refusenik> hey guys, connecting from our monthly JoziLUG meetup
[17:26]  * Vince-0 tries Vodacom Internet
[17:26] <Kilos> hi refusenik 
[17:27] <refusenik> hi
[17:27]  * nuvolari tries to recover from the day
[17:27] <nuvolari> aloha
[17:27] <nuvolari> hi refusenik 
[17:27] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[17:28] <nuvolari> lo oom Kilos, Vince-0 
[17:28] <kbmonkey> is monday over yet...?
[17:28] <Kilos> hehe after the meeting
[17:28] <nuvolari> my todo list says it didn't start yet :-/
[17:29] <refusenik> big news guys: we just joined the windows machine to the Samba 4 domain
[17:29] <kbmonkey> todo list <-> undone list :p
[17:29] <Vince-0> Naas
[17:29] <nuvolari> Botha?
[17:30] <Kilos> time kbmonkey 
[17:30] <kbmonkey> shall we start in a min?
[17:31] <Kilos> ya
[17:31] <Vince-0> Let's go go go
[17:31] <nuvolari> where to?
[17:31]  * nuvolari runs
[17:31] <kbmonkey> Maaz, start meeting about Monthly irc meet, July 15th 2013
[17:31]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[17:31] <Kilos> hi  psychicist 
[17:32] <psychicist> hi Kilos 
[17:32] <nuvolari> aloha
[17:32] <Kilos> Maaz, I am Miles Sharpe
[17:32] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[17:32] <nuvolari> Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt
[17:32] <Maaz> nuvolari: Righto
[17:32] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Welcome and introduction
[17:32] <Maaz> Current Topic: Welcome and introduction
[17:32] <psychicist> hi nuvolari 
[17:32] <kbmonkey> hello Maaz 
[17:32] <Superhuman> maaz: I am Leo Kruger
[17:32] <Maaz> Superhuman: Alrighty
[17:32] <magespawn> refusenik: was it difficult
[17:32] <kbmonkey> Maaz, I am Wesley Werner
[17:32] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Righto
[17:32] <SmilyBorg> Maaz: I am Una Karlsen
[17:32] <Maaz> SmilyBorg: Done
[17:32] <refusenik> I am Dan Fowler
[17:32] <Vince-0> Maaz: I am Vincent Swart
[17:32] <Maaz> Vince-0: Okay
[17:32] <magespawn> Maaz, I am Greg Eames
[17:32] <Maaz> magespawn: Yessir
[17:33] <kbmonkey> okay we look almost 10 strong tonight
[17:33] <kbmonkey> say hello everyone
[17:33] <nuvolari> hello kbmonkey 
[17:33] <kbmonkey> hello o/
[17:34] <Kilos> the pro is coming
[17:34] <Superhuman> aweh
[17:34] <nuvolari> lo Superhuman
[17:34] <kbmonkey> he will be in shortly Kilos ?
[17:34] <Kilos> old peeps take longer to recover after a hard days work
[17:34] <Kilos> yip
[17:34] <kbmonkey> I think work is the common problem ;)
[17:34] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[17:35] <kbmonkey> okay welcome everyone, to our monthly irc meet.
[17:35] <kbmonkey> we do not have a large agenda, but we are here 
[17:35] <Kilos> just in time Cantide 
[17:35] <nuvolari> howdy Cantide 
[17:36] <superfly> hi, have things started yet (I can't see, waiting for my backlog to load)
[17:36] <Kilos> only just superfly 
[17:36] <nuvolari> superfly: you're in time
[17:36] <superfly> oh wait, I probably won't even see that...
[17:37] <kbmonkey> just in time superfly and Cantide - introduce yourselves to Maaz 
[17:37] <nuvolari> getting merry now
[17:38] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Review previous minutes
[17:38] <Maaz> Current Topic: Review previous minutes
[17:38]  * inetpro takes a seat
[17:38] <inetpro> good evening
[17:38] <inetpro> Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer
[17:38] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure
[17:38] <Kilos> wb inetpro 
[17:38] <kbmonkey> Our text-only browser friendly previous minutes link is http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-06-24-17-34-16.txt
[17:39] <inetpro> I see apologies from not_found and queery on g+
[17:39] <kbmonkey> last time we spoke about tracking more events through the G+ page
[17:39] <Kilos> aw
[17:40] <Kilos> hi georgelappies login with maaz
[17:40] <Kilos> hi bomberman 
[17:40] <bomberman> hi Kilos 
[17:40] <georgelappies> hi Kilos
[17:40] <kbmonkey> So, just to confirm - who has the event creation rights there? So we can know who to contact for our event updates.
[17:41]  * nuvolari pleads not guilty
[17:41] <kbmonkey> Superhuman, this is related to your suggestion about the calendar - I think we moved from google calendar to G+ events...
[17:41]  * Superhuman too
[17:41] <Superhuman> think so too
[17:42] <kbmonkey> okay well I have a better idea - for all your events post the details on the community page at https://plus.google.com/communities/117322247779910275992 - bookmark it.
[17:42] <kbmonkey> yes?
[17:43] <Superhuman> I agree
[17:43] <superfly> wow, an almost 9 minute lag
[17:43] <inetpro> kbmonkey: I have three people on admin rights on our g+ page; superfly, Steven Scheffler (who rarely comes here these days) and myself
[17:43] <inetpro> with admin rights*
[17:43] <bomberman> I'm here!  aka Steven Scheffler. lol
[17:43] <Kilos> hehe
[17:44] <inetpro> bomberman: welcome back sir
[17:44] <Kilos> lsflr
[17:44] <Kilos> something like that
[17:44] <Kilos> sflr
[17:44] <kbmonkey> Ah thank you inetpro. So if our neighbourhood Ubuntu peeps have events, you can contact them through the mailing list or post the details on that community page.
[17:45] <inetpro> anyone is welcome to chatter away on the community page
[17:45] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Events
[17:45] <Maaz> Current Topic: Events
[17:45] <Kilos> kbmonkey, you gotta do agreed with maaz on that
[17:45] <Kilos> but make it a neat link
[17:46] <kbmonkey> Maaz, agreed users to post event details to the list or the G+ community page (https://plus.google.com/communities/117322247779910275992)
[17:46] <Maaz> Agreed: users to post event details to the list or the G+ community page (https://plus.google.com/communities/117322247779910275992)
[17:46] <Kilos> Maaz, shorten https://plus.google.com/communities/117322247779910275992
[17:46] <Maaz> Kilos: That reduces to: http://is.gd/66sp3C
[17:47] <kbmonkey> okay, that was last minutes, done. Please shout out your upcoming events now!
[17:47] <kbmonkey> bananas
[17:47] <inetpro> kbmonkey: re events; I see JoziLUG guys mentioning SFD
[17:47] <refusenik> yes
[17:47] <refusenik> right now, there's a meeting about it in Sandton City
[17:48] <inetpro> I guess we could all support the initiative
[17:48] <kbmonkey> great refusenik. 
[17:48] <superfly> oh, hey, look, I'
[17:48] <superfly> *I'm back
[17:48] <superfly> (sortof)
[17:48] <superfly> bomberman: aka "sfx" ?
[17:48] <superfly> Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman
[17:48] <Maaz> superfly: Righto
[17:48] <bomberman> yes superfly , sfx too! ;)
[17:49] <refusenik> cool
[17:49] <superfly> bomberman: traitor!
[17:49] <refusenik> any suggestions for a venue?
[17:49] <inetpro> refusenik: what is the date for SFD this year?
[17:49] <kbmonkey> hang on.. lag incoming
[17:49] <refusenik> 21 Sep, I think
[17:49] <bomberman> superfly: > wrong chat :P I hang out with HawkiesZA now
[17:49] <kbmonkey> http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/
[17:50] <superfly> bomberman: I know
[17:50] <superfly> bomberman: the traitor works with me
[17:50] <Kilos> haha
[17:50] <inetpro> ahh Saturday, 21 September 
[17:50] <kbmonkey> 67 days left to SFD
[17:50] <superfly> inetpro: it's usually the 3rd Saturday in September, I think
[17:50] <bomberman> really? haha thats funny superfly. What your agent name?
[17:51] <inetpro> I guess people on here can start thinking about setting up a Ubuntu desk
[17:51] <superfly> bomberman: lightwing
[17:52] <superfly> *an Ubuntu desk
[17:52] <bomberman> SFD > "Any team registered on or before July 21, 2013 will receive a pack of goodies including a big banner, tshirts, stickers, balloons, etc."
[17:52] <inetpro> superfly: well a stand or something like that
[17:52] <kbmonkey> Maaz, agreed to keep an eye on SFD (http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/)
[17:52] <Maaz> Agreed: to keep an eye on SFD (http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/)
[17:52] <inetpro> with official branding etc...
[17:53] <Kilos> nee man a must be an
[17:53] <superfly> refusenik: are you guys doing SFD?
[17:53] <bomberman> hola lightwing. how small this universe is superfly :)
[17:54] <superfly> indeed
[17:54] <inetpro> btw, if it boils down to it we can probably have a SFD event in each town or city
[17:54] <superfly> bomberman: but I have more than an Ingress bone to pick with you, you stood me up for the Ubuntu hour! :-P
[17:54] <superfly> well, not quite.
[17:54] <superfly> no one said anything on the list
[17:55] <kbmonkey> does anyone have other events to mention?
[17:55] <bomberman> superfly: > will make is up x 2 :) i'm bored of Ingress now.
[17:55] <bomberman> it*
[17:55] <kbmonkey> SFD is still 2 months away and made a note of it in Maaz 's memo pad
[17:56] <inetpro> refusenik: please let us know how the planning goes and lets take it from there
[17:56] <bomberman> Should we put an SFD countdown timer on ubuntuza site?
[17:56] <refusenik> yes, we're doing SFD
[17:56] <refusenik> yeah, will do
[17:57] <kbmonkey> thank you refusenik
[17:57] <kbmonkey> A counter on the site would be mean
[17:57] <refusenik> there's a SFD planning group
[17:57] <inetpro> btw, when is document freedom day?
[17:57] <refusenik> mailing list
[17:57] <refusenik> for anyone who wants to be involved 
[17:58] <bomberman> inetpro: > do you want to release the Zuma spy tapes? lol
[17:58] <inetpro> :-)
[17:58] <inetpro> ok, that was in March
[17:59] <inetpro> bomberman: nee man, we need peeps to be aware of these days
[17:59]  * inetpro just thinking out loud
[17:59] <Cantide> Maaz, I am Karl Wortmann
[17:59] <Maaz> Cantide: Righto
[17:59] <superfly> refusenik: any publically-linkable web page?
[18:00] <refusenik> no
[18:00] <refusenik> besides last year's
[18:00] <refusenik> http://softwarefreedom.co.za/
[18:01] <bomberman> Is there a plan to do it in Cape Town, Durban, Joburg? 
[18:01] <refusenik> I don't know beyond Joburg
[18:02] <Cantide> when is it?
[18:02] <inetpro> Cantide: Saturday, 21 September 
[18:02] <bomberman> We could do something at itsahouse, but I heard they closed down recently? In CT
[18:02] <kbmonkey> ... lag, am back. its in mid September Cantide 
[18:03] <kbmonkey> http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/
[18:03] <Cantide> oh, i may not be here then -.-v
[18:03] <superfly> refusenik: is there a ZA profile on the SFD site itself?
[18:03] <Vince-0> So what happens on sfd in in joburg? Where do you go public
[18:03] <superfly> I should probably check what the counter does before asking anymore stupid questions
[18:04] <inetpro> Vince-0: I think they only have it on the agenda for tonights meeting
[18:04] <bomberman> Counter -> static img http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/countdown/banner1-UTC-4-en.png
[18:05] <kbmonkey> Vince-0, we can start looking out for a venue? beach? my pc does not like sand very much.
[18:05] <inetpro> AFAIK their meeting started at 18:30
[18:05] <Vince-0> Nice venue at Wits from last year
[18:05] <superfly> meh. Intarwebs is SLOW tonight
[18:05] <Vince-0> Durban varsities are asleep
[18:06] <kbmonkey> yup
[18:07] <kbmonkey> keeping an eye on sfd then, will doodle some notes on my yellow memo pad while I sit in boring business meetings 
[18:07] <bomberman> Cape Town could be at UCT. Each faction (cities) should go an brainstorm locations and program?
[18:08] <bomberman> lol @ kbmonkey 
[18:08] <inetpro> I think we can add stuff at http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2013
[18:09] <inetpro> actually more like http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2013/SouthAfrica
[18:09] <kbmonkey> my browser says no to loading any pages. bookmarking
[18:10] <inetpro> anyway I think we can move on
[18:10] <Kilos> hi Georgl 
[18:10] <Georgl> evening Kilos
[18:10] <kbmonkey> righto, let's move on next.
[18:11] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic closing comments
[18:11] <Maaz> Current Topic: closing comments
[18:11] <kbmonkey> Your chance to say a word, anyone?
[18:12] <magespawn> word
[18:12] <kbmonkey> Maaz, minutes so far
[18:12] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-07-15-17-31-55.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-07-15-17-31-55.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-07-15-17-31-55.html
[18:12] <kbmonkey> hmm, not what I wanted, thanks Maaz 
[18:12] <kbmonkey> lol magespawn 
[18:12]  * inetpro wants to talk about meeting schedules
[18:13] <kbmonkey> Well then thanks everyone for your being here
[18:13] <magespawn> more or less?
[18:13] <bomberman> I added Cape Town on SFD. woot! http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2013/SouthAfrica
[18:13] <inetpro> I noticed JoziLUG meetings happening every 3rd Monday of the month at 18:30
[18:13] <bomberman> It seems there can be multiple teams in one city
[18:13] <kbmonkey> meeting schedules inetpro ?
[18:14] <kbmonkey> Maaz, agreed note the SFD ZA page - http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2013/SouthAfrica
[18:14] <Maaz> Agreed: note the SFD ZA page - http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2013/SouthAfrica
[18:14] <inetpro> kbmonkey: well I'm not sure whether we have anyone at JoziLUG meetings who would also like to be here
[18:15] <inetpro> but perhaps we should consider moving our date
[18:15] <inetpro> or time
[18:15] <kbmonkey> date for the next irc meet?
[18:15] <Kilos> ya
[18:15] <magespawn> theirs start at 20:30?
[18:15] <Kilos> not the 3rd monday
[18:15] <inetpro> 18:30
[18:16] <magespawn> do they usually take longer than an hour?
[18:16] <kbmonkey> either date or time. 18:30 or tuesday
[18:16] <inetpro> I think they actually meet at a venue
[18:17] <inetpro> perhaps refusenik can tell us more
[18:17] <magespawn> wow in real life cool
[18:17] <kbmonkey> it will be safer if we shift dates
[18:17] <Kilos> isnt a wednesday a better day
[18:17] <magespawn> i have it down as the 19th
[18:17] <superfly> no, I have Bible study on a Wednesday
[18:17] <Kilos> then weekend recovery is over and monday blues are done too
[18:17] <Kilos> ah
[18:17] <Kilos> thursday?
[18:18] <magespawn> according to the u untu-za calender
[18:18] <inetpro> what about the 4th monday of each month?
[18:18] <Kilos> ya inetpro 
[18:18] <kbmonkey> ah so it won't conflict with the 4th Monday?
[18:18] <magespawn> i am easy either way almost any night time works for me
[18:19] <kbmonkey> That seems like a better idea, clever inetpro 
[18:19] <magespawn> as long as it is in the calender i am happy
[18:19]  * inetpro could do with later but don't want to mess up the schedule for everyone else
[18:19] <inetpro> early in the evening is family time
[18:19] <Kilos> 8pm could work
[18:19] <kbmonkey> let's do that then, and point that out on the email list to see if there are any objections
[18:19] <magespawn> after 20:00 is better for me, kids are in bed then
[18:20] <Superhuman> agreed
[18:20] <magespawn> 4th monday @ 20:00 ?
[18:20] <inetpro> ok, then we need to find out who can update the google calendar
[18:20] <Kilos> ya
[18:20] <kbmonkey> agreed
[18:20] <inetpro> I think guys like Superhuman don't use g+
[18:21] <magespawn> inetpro: we thought you did it
[18:21] <kbmonkey> Maaz, agreed move the next irc meet to the 4th Monday 20:00
[18:21] <Maaz> Agreed: move the next irc meet to the 4th Monday 20:00
[18:21] <Superhuman> i do use it
[18:21] <inetpro> magespawn: that was last updated by drubin
[18:21] <inetpro> so is everyone happy with just g+ ?
[18:21] <magespawn> Maaz seen drubin 
[18:21] <Maaz> magespawn: drubin was last seen 6 months, 12 days, 1 hour, 43 minutes and 35 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-01-04 08:38:07 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2013-07-09 03:05:01 PDT
[18:21] <magespawn> wow
[18:22] <superfly> 8pm is offsping's bed time, but these days evenings just don't work for us on the whole
[18:22] <bomberman> I will update the website. That events widget is loaded from Google Calendars and pre-loaded for the next 5 years ;)
[18:22] <kbmonkey> thanks bomberman 
[18:22] <inetpro> ok I will try to find out how we can update the calendar as well
[18:22] <kbmonkey> please post the google calendar link on the list for us when that is done
[18:23] <bomberman> Okay!
[18:23] <kbmonkey> yay
[18:23] <kbmonkey> well that's it folks
[18:23] <Kilos> superfly, how long does it take to bed them?
[18:24] <superfly> Kilos: anything from half an hour to an hour and a half.
[18:24] <Kilos> whew
[18:24] <kbmonkey> Maaz, meeting end
[18:24] <Maaz> kbmonkey: *blink*
[18:24] <inetpro> who's our next chair?
[18:24] <Kilos> haha
[18:24] <Kilos> not end meeting?
[18:25] <bomberman> This is the calendar. public. https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=jlfkdi985bpd1p16ddkvdm1e18%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Africa/Harare
[18:25] <kbmonkey> oh yes, next chair votes?
[18:25] <superfly> little children are not a small task to deal with
[18:25] <bomberman> Its not updated, but will updated it this week.
[18:25] <superfly> bomberman: do you have write access to the calendar?
[18:25] <superfly> I only seem to have read access
[18:25] <kbmonkey> Maaz, agreed bomberman to update the Google calendar with new meeting dates
[18:25] <Maaz> Agreed: bomberman to update the Google calendar with new meeting dates
[18:25] <bomberman> Yes, I have. Hopefully. Otherwise I can create a new one. 
[18:26] <bomberman> Ok, what is the new dates? 4th Monday @ 8pm-9pm?
[18:26] <kbmonkey> yes, 4th [3~Mmonday 20h00 
[18:26] <inetpro> +1
[18:27] <inetpro> and the chair?
[18:27] <Kilos> monkey
[18:27] <inetpro> anyone else want to take a chance?
[18:27] <Kilos> nuvolari, you still here??
[18:27] <kbmonkey> myself to chair, anyone else ?
[18:27] <inetpro> going going...
[18:28] <inetpro> gone
[18:28] <inetpro> +1 for kbmonkey
[18:28] <Kilos> Vince-0, gotta fix his connection or get a linux pc
[18:28] <Vince-0> *crickets
[18:28] <kbmonkey> gone. i'll grab it.
[18:28] <kbmonkey> chirp chirp
[18:28] <inetpro> :-)
[18:29] <kbmonkey> Maaz, end meeting
[18:29] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[18:29] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-07-15-17-31-55.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-07-15-17-31-55.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-07-15-17-31-55.html
[18:29] <inetpro> kbmonkey: your timing is good
[18:29] <Kilos> ty for making it superfly inetpro 
[18:29] <Kilos> ty for chairing kbmonkey 
[18:30] <kbmonkey> I am creating the next meeting on loco now, pasting the details in...
[18:30] <inetpro> hopefully we have a longer agenda next time
[18:30] <inetpro> at least we keep things rolling
[18:30] <Kilos> refusenik, you guys must have ubuntu users in your lug
[18:33]  * inetpro wonders whether ptalug is still alive
[18:33] <bomberman> We can do more research into SFD
[18:33] <inetpro> bomberman: we should
[18:34] <bomberman> it would be great if we could do something at Department of coffee in Khayelitsha. 2-3 centers in greater Cape Town
[18:34] <inetpro> and bomberman you should come here more often
[18:35] <kbmonkey> the web is frozzen
[18:35] <inetpro> Department of coffee?
[18:35] <kbmonkey> yet ssh still works a bomb
[18:35] <Squirm> evening
[18:35] <inetpro> Squirm: you are late
[18:35] <bomberman> inetpro: i come when I can. When I'm not busy kicking superfly 's a$$ on the battlefield :P
[18:35] <Squirm> meh, dinner was had during the meet :/
[18:36] <bomberman> inetpro: > Department of Coffee: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Department-of-Coffee/455306021156615
[18:36] <bomberman> thats now in Cape Town
[18:37] <Cantide> huh -.- i pretty much missed the meeting entirely
[18:37] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:37] <kbmonkey> Ohkay the new meeting page is http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/623/detail/
[18:37] <Cantide> i was here in spirit though :)
[18:37] <kbmonkey> hmm it created duplicate entries when the page timed out and I resubmitted - 
[18:37] <Kilos> you getting slack Cantide 
[18:38] <Cantide> yeah :/
[18:38] <Cantide> i am -.-v
[18:38] <Cantide> was talking elsewhere
[18:38] <superfly> bomberman: since when? when we made almost 300 level 8 portals in Cape Town?
[18:38] <Kilos> shame on you
[18:38] <Cantide> just around the time of the meeting -.-v
[18:38] <inetpro> kbmonkey: you have it up for  Sun, 25 Aug. 2013 
[18:39] <kbmonkey> uh, thanks inetpro. I hate date pickers.
[18:39] <Kilos> haha
[18:39] <Vince-0> Sweet beans
[18:40] <inetpro> kbmonkey: that thing is super slow
[18:40] <kbmonkey> inetpro, and it always has been like that. 
[18:40] <kbmonkey> right about now it runs the same speed as the rest of the net ;)
[18:41] <inetpro> we need someone to talk to the guys at #ubuntu-meeting
[18:41] <superfly> about?
[18:42] <bomberman> 2011 SFD CLUG. Anyone has contacts? http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/South%20Africa/Cape%20Town/CLUG
[18:42] <inetpro> superfly: about fixing performance of http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[18:42] <superfly> oh
[18:43] <kbmonkey> ohkay thanks again all, I am going back to sleep 
[18:43] <superfly> bomberman: tumbleweed used to organise that
[18:43] <Kilos> night kbmonkey sleep tight
[18:43] <superfly> bomberman: but he no longer works/studies at UCT
[18:44] <bomberman> superfly: need to recruit new people then
[18:44] <superfly> (and it wasn't a great venue either in terms of general accessibility or prominence)
[18:45] <bomberman> superfly: do you have a venue in mind? We could have 2-3 on the day. Just to have some competition going...
[18:45] <superfly> not specifically
[18:46] <superfly> canal walk would be a good venue, but we'd need company sponsorship
[18:46] <superfly> and professional stands 
[18:47] <bomberman> MWEB? IS?
[18:48] <Cantide> sleep time -.-v good night!
[18:49] <superfly> mweb unlikely
[18:49] <superfly> IS also unlikely
[18:50] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:50] <Vince-0> So is a stall + team + install lab 
[18:50] <bomberman> I need to read up on SFD first.
[18:50] <Vince-0> Cya Kilos
[18:50] <inetpro> good night Kilos
[18:51] <magespawn> if we can get a list of what is needed then we can look for sponsers
[18:51] <bomberman> its also media coverage etc
[18:51] <bomberman> here are some of the past winners http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/en/competition/winners-2010
[18:51] <bomberman> you can see they went out really big
[18:56] <superfly> if my internet weren't so slow
[18:57] <bomberman> webchat is fast :D
[18:57] <superfly> IRC is fine, it's actual HTTP which seems to be slower than molasses in July
[19:02] <inetpro> superfly: maybe you should try access via a proxy?
[19:02] <superfly> make it even slower?
[19:02] <inetpro> I mean a public proxy
[19:03] <magespawn> later all data just about gone
[19:22]  * inetpro emailed drubin about the calendar
[20:37] <drubin> magespawn: inetpro : it can't be thaaaaat long its long but can't be that long? ;)
[20:47] <inetpro> drubin: uh?
[20:47] <inetpro> drubin: wb sir!
[20:48] <inetpro> drubin: people have almost forgotten that you are the chief :-)
[20:49] <inetpro> anyway, thanks for the calender permissions
[20:50]  * inetpro updated the dates 
[20:50] <drubin> inetpro: pleasure!
[20:50] <inetpro> bomberman: you'll have to do your magic to fix the site
[20:52] <inetpro> or superfly ^^
[20:52] <inetpro> but I guess both are sleeping now already
[20:52] <inetpro> which is a good idea anyway
[20:52] <inetpro> good night everyone
[21:44] <BLAZED> ppl
[21:45] <BLAZED> or better yet bantu basekhaya