[00:00] <Dr_willis> moses,  yes.. changeing groups.. requires a log in/out
[00:00] <volf_> Well, duh.
[00:01] <moses> ty for your help
[00:01] <moses> everyone
[00:03] <HateGrub> quick question, sdc is hd2 for grub
[00:03] <HateGrub> ?
[00:05] <histo> HateGrub: Are you installing grub manually now?
[00:05] <histo> HateGrub: where are you going to boot your efi files?
[00:05] <nottura> why is jockey-gtk not seeing my ati sapphire 2600xt ?
[00:05] <nottura> does that card not require fglrx, or not work with it or something ?
[00:06] <HateGrub> histo: machine is working fine for the other 2 oses (osx and win8). Ubuntu was installed on the third hd when it was the only one enabled. When I tried to enable the other ones again, it failed.
[00:06] <halp> what do i do when this happens? " E: IO Error to output - fwrite (28: No space left on device)
[00:06] <Dako300> halp: delete stuff
[00:06] <HateGrub> histo: so, I'm checking grub.cfg directly now. for instance: set root='hd0,msdos1'
[00:06] <nottura> a sudo apt-get install fglrx results in a broken system btw.
[00:06] <histo> HateGrub: do you have secure boot enabled and can describe "failed"
[00:06] <halp> apt-get remove?
[00:06] <HateGrub> histo: this is probably wrong.
[00:07] <histo> HateGrub: not when it was the only drive
[00:07] <Dako300> IF it is removeing items on that device than go ahead.
[00:07] <HateGrub> histo: I don't know if I have secure boot enabled. Most probably no, because Im already running osx and Win8
[00:07] <nottura> maybe a better question is: does an ATI card from abotu 2007 able to use the fglrx drivers? or would one use radeon for that ?
[00:07] <histo> !ati | nottura
[00:07] <Dako300> nottura: I would think that it is now enough to use those.
[00:08] <HateGrub> histo: yep, but now is disk # 3... strange, I thought that it would be considered disk 1 when I select it as boot device inside the bios
[00:08] <HateGrub> so, let me try to change it
[00:08] <histo> HateGrub: yes grub numbering starts at 0 so change it to 2
[00:09] <Dako300> I have an old Dell Workstation that I ordered upgrades for. I managed to get the system to boot with 2 GPUs (the BIOS doesn't support the card natively) and I get a text prompt as normal from the second card (I run ubuntu server) but whenever I try and run startx and start lightdm, it crashes and has a sementation fault. The card I am using is an Radeon X1600
[00:09] <HateGrub> histo: and it's currently booting directly. How can I force a timeout?
[00:10] <HateGrub> histo: a lot of ifs for the timeout, including some -1, which I would assume is the go directly, right?
[00:10] <nottura> Dako300, not enough?
[00:10] <nottura> you are saying you dont think the card uses fglrx?
[00:11] <Dako300> nottura: I would think that a card from 2007 would probably use fglrx but believe me, installing it is a pain.
[00:11] <nottura> it seems a dedicated ATI card would get picked up by jockey-gtk
[00:11] <Dako300> I would think so too.
[00:11] <nottura> Dako300, it is not a pain usually. but maybe for an older card it is
[00:11] <nottura> i will do it debian way maybe
[00:11] <nottura> but honestly i am tired of those guys
[00:11] <histo> HateGrub: You can edit the /etc/default/grub and sudo update-grub
[00:11] <nottura> thanks for help
[00:12] <Dako300> I tried to install the drivers to fix my problem but that forced me to fall back on the older card.
[00:12] <HateGrub> histo: ok, let me try that
[00:12] <Dako300> My card is not that old, it is a Radeon X1600 XT from about 2006
[00:13] <HateGrub> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
[00:13] <HateGrub> I think I should change that to false as well
[00:13] <HateGrub> :)
[00:13] <microcode> Ubuntu Wiki login is broken
[00:13] <microcode> the OpenID login completes on login.ubuntu.com, but doesn't come back to wiki.ubuntu.com
[00:14] <Dako300> are you sure this is the right place to point that out?
[00:14] <microcode> does anyone know where best to report this issue if I'd like to get it fixed?
[00:14] <microcode> I just don't really spend much time giving a damn about ubuntu
[00:14] <microcode> but I need to be pointed in the right direction to correct an error
[00:14] <volf_> (he said on the Ubuntu chat room)
[00:14] <Dako300> Oh..., then I think there should be an option to contact the webmaster
[00:15] <microcode> I'm having a difficult time finding such contact information :P
[00:15] <histo> microcode: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpContents
[00:16] <rbanffy> Dr_willis, thanks. BRB
[00:16] <HateGrub> histo: ok, rebooting. thanks.
[00:16] <microcode> histo: I'm looking for the webmaster in charge of it, not help on setting up MoinMoin
[00:17] <histo> microcode: /j #ubuntu-doc
[00:17] <histo> microcode: from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teams
[00:17] <histo> microcode: there is also #ubuntu-wiki which is probably more appropirate
[00:17] <tgm4883> microcode, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website
[00:18] <Dako300> I have an old Dell Workstation that I ordered upgrades for. I managed to get the system to boot with 2 GPUs (the BIOS doesn't support the card natively) and I get a text prompt as normal (I run ubuntu server) but whenever I try and run startx of start lightdm, it crashes and has a sementation fault. The card I am using is an Radeon X1600
[00:20] <microcode> ahh
[00:21] <microcode> histo: thanks, wasn't aware of the channel
[00:23] <hans_henrik> microcode, are you ignoring pms btw?
[00:25] <microcode> hans_henrik: didn't see the pms, sorry
[00:30] <beardtre2> Sometimes, all of a sudden, my computer completely hangs, and all I can do is SysRq. https://paste.sh/8QxMMyJ2#hkVGsFZIhi9S6qzoDdtgi-e7 any thoughts?
[00:38] <toddsirloinjr> Hello
[00:39] <VFox> HI
[00:41] <toddsirloinjr> So, what about that Ubuntu touch? Anybody try it out?
[00:43] <Dr_willis> its a work in progress. :)  it has its own channel
[00:43] <Dr_willis> !touch
[00:44] <Dr_willis> I havent even tried it on my Nexus7
[00:46] <airtonix_> suddenly today for someone reason I can't ping my resolve my local machines avahi hostname "nova.local"
[00:46] <airtonix_> ping/resolve
[00:46]  * airtonix rages
[00:48] <airtonix> arggh it start working again.
[00:52] <fire-net-corp> hello good afternoon someone can help me with my ubuntu 13.04 please
[00:53] <fire-net-corp> hello good afternoon someone can help me with my ubuntu 13.04 please
[00:54] <fire-net-corp> hello good afternoon someone can help me with my ubuntu 13.04 please
[00:54] <mastershake> does anybody know anything about chromebooks
[00:54] <guest> nope no one does
[00:54] <guest> install gentoo
[00:55] <mastershake> >inb4 install gentoo
[00:55] <mastershake> ..god damn it
[00:55] <fire-net-corp> does anybody know anything about chromebooks
 nope no one does
 install gentoo
[00:55] <fire-net-corp> hello good afternoon someone can help me with my ubuntu 13.04 please
[00:56] <mastershake> fire-net-corp: what happened
[00:56] <fire-net-corp> tanks mastershake
[00:56] <guest> does anybody know anything about chromebooks
[00:57] <fire-net-corp> as I can activate my audio on my ubuntu 13.30
[00:58] <badk1tty> hi
[00:58] <mastershake> guest: install gentoo.
[00:58] <fire-net-corp> when I access all settings and the sound option appears empty
[00:58] <fire-net-corp> travez play sound
[00:59] <badk1tty> how about changing the unity launcher from top to bottom in 13.04?
[00:59] <goodk1tty> install le gentoo xD
[01:00] <mastershake> but first, rm -rf * in terminal.
[01:00] <goodk1tty> now what
[01:01] <badk1tty> cute name
[01:01] <badk1tty> lol
[01:01] <badk1tty> too bad we're not sitting on some cat's shoulder goodkitty
[01:02] <guest> now what
[01:03] <badk1tty> say what again... ah wrong movie
[01:03] <badk1tty> how about changing the unity launcher from side to bottom
[01:03] <guest> Does anyone have pinguy installed?
[01:03] <beardtree> Sometimes, all of a sudden, my computer completely hangs, and all I can do is SysRq. https://paste.sh/8QxMMyJ2#hkVGsFZIhi9S6qzoDdtgi-e7 any thoughts?
[01:04] <Soumen> Hi everyone, I need some help. I have a 12.04 installtion running on my system and my hard drive is due for replacement due to some issues. I was wondering if any tools exist to make an image of my current system. I had used remastersys once long back for this, but I'm not sure if it still works
[01:04] <badk1tty> hardlocks are mostly hardware
[01:04] <badk1tty> try a ghosting software
[01:04] <guest> How the fuck do I get rid of the desktop clock widget thing in Pinguy 13.04?
[01:05] <JustAPerson> Anyone have any experience with Ubuntu as a guest OS inside of VirtualBox? When I try to use VirtualBox's "Seamless mode", it displays the area around a window like this: http://i.snag.gy/VkSgj.jpg
[01:05] <IdleOne> guest: by asking the pinguyOS people and please don't swear in here
[01:06] <guest> nvm I found it :3
[01:08] <qiyong> hi, how can I find ubuntu version codename in somewhere /usr/share ?
[01:09] <mayhew> Is it recommended to use the LTS-enablement stack for 12.04 LTS if your hardware works fine with the default precise stack?
[01:09] <guest__> le le
[01:10] <Dr_willis> qiyong,  its in a file in /etc/  but no idea about /usr/share/
[01:10] <Dr_willis> !version
[01:11] <guest> So many people, so little c h a t .
[01:12] <badk1tty> i was chatting no one was listening ... *pout*
[01:12] <qiyong> Dr_willis: i'm not to find the current version, i want to know a list of codenames
[01:12] <guest> I actually was going to talk back but docky doesn't agree with my setup atm so it made me think XChat closed out.
[01:12] <guest> I was goodk1tty lolol
[01:13] <badk1tty> lol
[01:13] <Dr_willis> qiyong,  not sure there is a list on a normal install.
[01:13] <badk1tty> im still looking however it doesn't seem there are too much help in manipulating the unity launcher for 13.04
[01:14] <badk1tty> half the site say download this plugin only dont tell you what flappin plugin
[01:14] <guest> flappin
[01:15] <badk1tty> that one dude said no swearin
[01:15] <badk1tty> maybee he meant like swearin an oath then.... lol
[01:15] <Dr_willis> if you are refering to the FLASH plugin - its in the repos.. you dont download it via your browser like in windows.
[01:15] <Dr_willis> !flash
[01:15] <Dr_willis> not sure how that relates to 'manipulating the unity launcher' however. ;)
[01:15] <badk1tty> no its in relation to moving that damn launcher to the bottom
[01:16] <badk1tty> it doesn't but thanks for responding
[01:16] <badk1tty> lol
[01:16] <Dr_willis> Quick answer is - You dont move it down to the bottom.
[01:16] <Dr_willis> If you want a lower panel. use some other dock with the unity panel.
[01:17] <badk1tty> thats a microcrap move making something in the OS you can't manipulate
[01:17] <Dr_willis> there USED to be some unofficial patched unity panels out there.. but they had issues, that couldbe onthe bottom
[01:17] <Dr_willis> badk1tty,  dosent matter - thats how it is.
[01:17] <badk1tty> that must be the site i'm on now thats what its talkin about
[01:17] <Dr_willis> that bottom unity panel thing. may or may not work with newer releases. ive not seen it mentioned in ages
[01:18] <Dr_willis> If i want a lower panel. I just use some dock  for the bottom and hide the left side panel
[01:18] <badk1tty> were theres a will....
[01:18] <badk1tty> i'll figure it out eventually
[01:19] <badk1tty> it will comply
[01:19] <eeecoder> I hope I am going to get some help here.
[01:19] <badk1tty> i mean the menu doesn't load any options for the bottom position however there has to be  config file for the app
[01:20] <Dr_willis> badk1tty,  for the left side panel? its a compiz plugin.
[01:21] <Dr_willis> unity is a plugin running under compiz. and theres no option ive seen  lately to move it to the other side, or to the bottom.
[01:22] <badk1tty> thank you
[01:22] <badk1tty> i needed the name of the plugin that dude was talkin bout
[01:22] <badk1tty> so just hack the plugin find the config file and edit it
[01:23] <badk1tty> if the visual menu don't comply go around it
[01:23] <Dr_willis> i doubt if its going to be that simple
[01:24] <badk1tty> never underestimate the k1tty
[01:24] <badk1tty> :D
[01:24] <Dr_willis> it is very likely the positioning is hard coded in the actual code.
[01:24] <badk1tty> giiggle
[01:24] <badk1tty> well that's not very christian of em
[01:24] <Dr_willis> dosent matter.. thats how it is.
[01:24] <badk1tty> i don't think it's that encased
[01:24] <Dr_willis> ive definatly seen a lot of settings that are hard-coded
[01:24] <badk1tty> most nix software is opensource
[01:25] <Dr_willis> opensopurces does not mean the settings are in a 'config text file'
[01:25] <badk1tty> maybee maybee not
[01:25] <Dr_willis> Unity./compiz uses the gconf/dconf method to store settings also
[01:25] <badk1tty> can't be any worse than unpacking and recompiling a kernel
[01:25] <Dr_willis> yes it can.
[01:26] <badk1tty> find a way to win
[01:26] <badk1tty> :D
[01:26] <badk1tty> your nick should be 'devils advocate' tho i appreciate the sentiment
[01:26] <badk1tty> :D
[01:26] <Dr_willis> if you dont like the unity desktop layout/settings, use a differnt desktop.
[01:26] <badk1tty> seriously thanks for your help
[01:27] <badk1tty> i'll just mod it it's cool
[01:27] <Dr_willis> or as was mentioned.. run some other dock for a bottom panel thats the easy way to get a lower dock
[01:27] <badk1tty> what! muah do it the easy way shaaaf as if
[01:27] <badk1tty> lol
[01:27] <badk1tty> <---------- doesn't like obtuse software
[01:28] <Dr_willis> not sure how geometry figures into it....
[01:29] <badk1tty> lmao
[01:29] <badk1tty> it's a metaphor silly
[01:29] <badk1tty> your fun to talk to
[01:30] <badk1tty> osik! it won't let scroll back up what was the name of that plugin again please
[01:31] <Dr_willis> err.. UNITY is a plugin for Compiz.
[01:31] <Dr_willis> Unity is the ubuntu desktop
[01:31] <badk1tty> sawwy
[01:31] <badk1tty> i furgot
[01:31] <badk1tty> thanks doc
[01:35] <otrenav> Hi all. I installed Ubuntu 13.04 in an iMac. I'm trying to boot from the USB with wireless keyboard. I can't seem to find a way to do this. Any ideas?
[01:36] <Coburn> otrenav: what generation?
[01:36] <Coburn> If it's PowerPC, it's not going to work
[01:36] <Coburn> PowerPCs apparently can't boot from USB (unless you hack open firmware or something)
[01:37] <badk1tty> they still make powerpc's
[01:37] <badk1tty> i thought they phased out the RISC chips in mac's
[01:37] <Dr_willis> They did - a long time ago.
[01:37] <Dr_willis> I used to have one. ;)
[01:37] <badk1tty> ah see i was right
[01:38] <badk1tty> RISC is still cool though
[01:38] <Coburn> I have a PowerPC G4 Mac Mini
[01:38] <badk1tty> nice
[01:38] <Coburn> Running Xbuntu 12.10
[01:38] <badk1tty> old but still cool at least in my book
[01:38] <Dr_willis> I finally got rid of my old PPC imacDV. it was next to useless.
[01:38] <badk1tty> awwww
[01:38] <Coburn> Wants me to update to 13.04 but no thank you
[01:39] <otrenav> Coburn: It must be 8,1 or 9,1.
[01:39] <otrenav> It's the intel kind.
[01:40] <Coburn> My G4 is > PowerMac10,1 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh
[01:40] <Coburn> Hmmm
[01:40] <badk1tty> everythings the intel kind these days AMD seems to have fallen off the map
[01:40] <Coburn> I just built a new PC using AMD
[01:40] <badk1tty> "I could have been a contenda!"
[01:41] <Coburn> AMD is better with linux than Intel
[01:41] <badk1tty> ah ha right quote
[01:41] <Coburn> AMD = Better multitasking/multithreaded on *nix
[01:41] <badk1tty> if you say so
[01:41] <Coburn> Not going to bash either party
[01:41] <badk1tty> just havn't used anything but old amd chips in nix
[01:41] <Coburn> otrenav: If it uses EFI to boot, then you need to use something like rEFit
[01:41] <badk1tty> wow back then i was running mandrake 8
[01:42] <badk1tty> TFC and counterstrike server
[01:42] <Coburn> I run mageia (fork of Mandriva) now on my new build
[01:42] <otrenav> I didn't install rEFit when I installed Ubuntu.
[01:42] <otrenav> But, I'll try that.
[01:42] <Coburn> otrenav: afaik it's OS X only installer :(
[01:42] <Dr_willis> I doubt if theres much differance between AMD and Intel preformance these days
[01:42] <badk1tty> im wiff doc on that one
[01:43] <Coburn> The thing is, Intel may be faster, but if you look under the structure of the CPU, you'll see Intel has made "quick fixes" to compete with AMD's more thought-out structure.
[01:43] <badk1tty> well maybee a dual MB with Xeon octa cores that one would probably walk away
[01:43] <synergy_> Do you install rEFit before you instal ubuntu with windows 8?
[01:43] <Coburn> I will say, though, Intel is CISC, AMD is RISC
[01:43] <Coburn> uh
[01:43] <Coburn> rEFit is just a boot manager
[01:44] <badk1tty> amd is using risc cores on die?
[01:44] <Dr_willis> badk1tty,  first ive heard of it... might want to verify that in #hardware
[01:44] <badk1tty> yeah no osik doc
[01:44] <badk1tty> i've never heard of that either
[01:44] <badk1tty> would be interesting though
[01:45] <Dr_willis> i dont keep up with hardware much these days.   Other then my RaspberryPi.
[01:45] <synergy_> Right, I have issues with my boot manager. I keep getting the black screen when I try to get past the "try ubuntu without installing"
[01:47] <otrenav> I'm realizing that'd be a real pain. Any other ideas on how to boot an iMac (without rEFit) with Ubuntu 13.04 form a USB?
[01:49] <nevyn> 11:49 < Coburn> I will say, though, Intel is CISC, AMD is RISC
[01:49] <nevyn> this is rubbish ^^
[01:52] <Dr_willis> nevyn,  ;)
[01:53] <Dr_willis> well both companies do make RISC cpus dont they. - isent ARM techincally a risc? or am i getting senile again
[01:54] <nevyn> both companies manufacture RISC and CISC cpu's
[01:55] <nevyn> and the cisc cpu's tend to be a frontend on a risc execution core for both companies
[01:59] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[02:00] <gld1982ltd> hello all. i need help with sshfs. i CAN mount sshfs shares after login, but at boot they fail. anyone know how to fix this?
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> !sshfs | gld1982ltd
[02:02] <gld1982ltd> did that
[02:02] <Dr_willis> gld1982ltd,  how are you trying to mount them at boot time?
[02:02] <gld1982ltd> fstab
[02:03] <Dr_willis> gld1982ltd,  if your users home directory/partition encrypted?
[02:03] <gld1982ltd> nope
[02:05] <Dr_willis> could try mounthign them via thecommand line from /etc/rc.local perhaps   - i use sshfs, but  i have scripts to mount them when i want.
[02:05] <Dr_willis> never used them in fstab. whats your fstab line look like?
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> gld1982ltd: maybe this can help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/154213/sshfs-mount-does-not-work-on-startup-using-fstab
[02:08] <gld1982ltd> lotuspsychje: i am sure i could make a script....but isn't fstab supposed to work?
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> gld1982ltd: note sure, never used it myself but many threads comming up on users that cant boot it by default
[02:10] <Dave77> how do I test if lightdm is configured correctly?
[02:10] <gld1982ltd> any suggestions of replacements for sshfs?
[02:10] <allaire> Anybody use monit? If you could take a look at my question I would appreciate it! http://serverfault.com/questions/523226/monit-daemonize-non-daemon-process
[02:10] <kalakj> hello everyone, i have a big problem, my laptop restarts everytime when i try to shut it down
[02:10] <kalakj> i recently updated it
[02:11] <kalakj> and one problem resolved then another comes
[02:11] <kalakj> both are annoying
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> gld1982ltd: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know howto?
[02:11] <kalakj> help me
[02:12] <kalakj> i also tried, changing grub file
[02:12] <kalakj> and also installed latop-mode tools, still no progress
[02:14] <kalakj> help mee
[02:14] <kalakj> ^
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> !patience | kalakj
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> Dave77: you got any issues with lightdm?
[02:15] <Dave77> i'm not sure if its that or some config file but when I try startx it says 'no screens found'
[02:16] <lotuspsychje> !details | Dave77
[02:19] <Dave77> ok.. also can I install mir on ubuntu quantal?
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> !mir | Dave77
[02:22] <newbie007> greetings, does ubuntu support the mouse scanners, like the ones Brookstone has?
[02:27] <gld1982ltd> #ubuntu-server is dead.
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> gld1982ltd: you mean no movement at this time
[02:28] <gld1982ltd> yeah
[02:28] <gld1982ltd> what's the term?
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> re-ask your question in chat here once in a while, at other times ppl will be able to solve for sure
[02:29] <Dave77> are there any kind of system fix it utils for ubuntu?
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> Dave77: ubuntu-tweak can tweak stuff
[02:32] <newbie007> does ubuntu support mouse scanners?
[02:32] <airtonix> lotuspsychje: tweak != fix
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> airtonix?
[02:33] <airtonix> lotuspsychje: isn't it obvious?
[02:34] <airtonix> lotuspsychje: or doesn't your irc client allow you to scroll back through previous messages
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> newbie007, I see just a few out there, and no open source references. Does not mean it wont work just no easily found info they will.
[02:34] <Dave77> would like to use linux for desktop but when something breaks can be difficult to fix
[02:34]  * airtonix nods sagely
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> airtonix: theres no reason to be sarcastic
[02:34] <airtonix> lotuspsychje: why not?
[02:35] <newbie007> wilee-nilee thanks, I couldnt find anything either.
[02:35] <airtonix> lotuspsychje: i thought you were being sarcastic to be honest.
[02:35] <newbie007> not sure how to determine if device XYZ is supported or not
[02:36] <newbie007> there is a list right? USB device identifies itself as some number. That number corresponds to a list in the OS
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> newbie007, I found a youtube video of home shopping, lol, and the host said just run the mouse wilee-nilee over the page, I laughed.
[02:41] <Dr_willis> 'difficult to fix' often applies to other os's as well. ;)
[02:49] <Dave77> yes but on windoze are utils to fix things.. I broke my system perl on linux after trying to compile from source.. and had to start again from scratch
[02:54] <jla> I switched from an nvidia card to a radeon one without uninstalling the nvidia stuff first. Now when I log into the Ubuntu desktop I don't get a menu bar. When I log into Gnome (fallback) I get a menu bar, but I can't find
[02:54] <jla> 'Hardware Manager', what is it's name to launch from a terminal?
[02:55] <airtonix> Dave77: 1. if you're compiling stuff then isn't that expected 2. sudo apt-get purge thing-you-broke ?
[02:56] <Dave77> you see never.. heard of purge command..
[02:56] <airtonix> Dave77: what about the man command?
[02:57] <airtonix> Dave77: also: while you will appreciate that apt-get only works on software it installs, if you compile something and make it install itself into the same place that apt-get would then i suppose : sudo apt-get install thing-you-broke --reinstall
[02:58] <Dave77> yes, but i'm not linux expert.. had a problem with libmad crashing and had to use the one from raring.. but that using that broke something else
[02:58] <airtonix> Dave77: so a "fix it" program for things that apt-get has no idea about (ie you compiled it) i'm pretty sure are non existant.
[02:59] <Dave77> no i'm just saying in general for linux a fix it util.. to detect problems etc
[03:00] <airtonix> Dave77: there is one, but it only works from data that follows a standard and describes how things should be: ie xdg spec, apt-get cache,  etc.
[03:00] <airtonix> Dave77: it also likes to remove things it isn't supposed to.
[03:01] <airtonix> Dave77: it's commonly referred to as a "system cleaner"
[03:02] <airtonix> Dave77: http://www.maketecheasier.com/8-ways-to-maintain-a-clean-lean-ubuntu-machine/2008/10/07
[03:03] <Dave77> airtonix: do u know anything about dev for linux?  is it easy to make an app to play video in a window?
[03:03] <airtonix> Dave77: old, but gives you an idea of what to search google for
[03:03] <Dave77> thanks
[03:03] <airtonix> Dave77: also the program I was thinking of is bleachbit. just be very careful with this one
[03:09] <Ali__> hi
[03:09] <Ali__> plz need help
[03:09] <Ali__> hi every one
[03:10] <varunendra> !details | Ali__
[03:10] <sarthor> HI, I have toshiba harman kardon laptop, Core i3, Linux installed. there are control lights/touch bottons of volume, play/Pause, Wlan, that buttons lights are not turning on. While in bios or windows it remain on. HELP
[03:11] <Ali__> see this link plz http://67.215.244.51/
[03:11] <airtonix> Ali__: no.
[03:11] <MeikaTheBro> no.
[03:11] <Coburn> nope.jpg
[03:12] <Coburn> sarthor: do the buttons light up if you're using linux and you touch them?
[03:13] <iBurley> Anybody know off the top of your head how to disable mouse acceleration on Ubuntu?
[03:13] <sarthor> Coburn: no, but the buttons are functioning. and the lights are off. in case I am touching or not, they remain off.
[03:14] <Coburn> iBurley: this could help http://askubuntu.com/questions/26176/how-do-i-turn-off-mouse-acceleration
[03:14] <Coburn> sarthor: what is the model of your laptop?
[03:14] <Coburn> and also, may I ask why you'd want them on?
[03:16] <sarthor> Coburn: toshiba a665, I want them to work normal, like it do in Windows OS. and also I am a learner.
[03:18] <Coburn> OK. sarthor
[03:19] <Coburn> I did a quick google and found some info.
[03:19] <Coburn> I'll try to compile the info into a more easy-to-understand format, just one moment
[03:19] <sarthor> Coburn: Waiting..
[03:19] <Coburn> okay... what I see is this
[03:20] <Coburn> your laptop's BIOS controlls the backlight keyboard
[03:20] <Coburn> now the BIOS uses ACPI to do so. Toshiba have more or less, a habit of "breaking" the ACPI setup.
[03:20] <sarthor> Hmm
[03:20] <Coburn> From what I read, there's a button you can press to try to turn on the lights
[03:21] <Coburn> Fn+Z ?
[03:21] <Coburn> If people disable the ACPI, the system works as expected, but this breaks a lot of things.
[03:21] <Coburn> Since ACPI is one of the "engine components"
[03:21]  * pionar is away: I'm busy
[03:22] <Equinox3> hi, the app menu on my unity takes all of my screen, is there any way to resize it to my liking?
[03:22] <pionar>  HexChat: 2.9.5 ** OS: Linux 3.8.0-26-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "raring" 13.04 ** CPU: 4 x AMD A8-3520M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz ** RAM: Physical: 5.3GB, 70.8% free ** Disk: Total: 581.3GB, 93.5% free ** VGA: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI BeaverCreek [Radeon HD 6620G] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic1: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic
[03:22] <pionar> ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller ** Uptime: 3d 21h 38m 48s **
[03:22] <sarthor> Coburn: no result with Fn+Z
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> Equinox3, http://askubuntu.com/questions/68788/how-can-i-resize-the-unity-dash
[03:23] <Coburn> Apparently with this, sarthor:
[03:23] <Equinox3> thanks
[03:24] <Coburn> Quote: "Have any of you guys tried booting up a windows install dvd and then pressing the keyboard backlight key on top of the keyboard? I did this and it worked for my toshiba satellite p755 s5265. You may not notice a change immediately, but after reboot into ubuntu, keyboard lights are on.
[03:24] <Coburn> I have only ubuntu and mint installed."
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> Equinox3, dconf has a bit of tweaks in general. ;)
[03:24] <Coburn> Problem is, you gotta carry around a windows disc
[03:24] <Coburn> boot -> do trick -> reboot -> use linux
[03:24] <Equinox3> thanks wilee-nilee, i'm gonna try it
[03:24] <Coburn> every time
[03:25] <sarthor> Coburn: let me try my bootable usb, there is bootable win7 ISO inside. I can do a try.
[03:25] <Coburn> sarthor: before you do that
[03:25] <sarthor> Hm
[03:25] <mm12> hey everyone
[03:25] <Equinox3> wilee-nilee: i thought those buttons were just to close the dash
[03:26] <mm12> what a good alternative to outlook for ubuntu
[03:26] <Coburn> sarthor, can you pop open a terminal and enter "ls /sys/class/backlight "
[03:26] <Coburn> mm12: Evolution...?
[03:26] <Coburn> I use Thunderbird myself
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> Equinox3, I see a hover om the top left for widgets, I use the shell so I forget.
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> on*
[03:26] <sarthor> Coburn: ls /sys/class/backlight
[03:26] <sarthor> acpi_video0  intel_backlight  toshiba
[03:26] <Coburn> okay, arthor, can you do " ls /sys/class/backlight/toshiba "
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> Equinox3, Might be a tick in the unity-tweak app, not sure
[03:27] <Equinox3> wilee-nilee: i needed it resized so i could drag an app to my cairo-dock
[03:27] <Equinox3> now its done, so thanks
[03:27] <Coburn> okay, sarthor, can you do " ls /sys/class/backlight/toshiba "
[03:27] <Coburn> sorry, typoed name
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> Equinox3, I use the dock as well
[03:27] <sarthor> Coburn: ls /sys/class/backlight/toshiba
[03:27] <sarthor> actual_brightness  bl_power  brightness  device  max_brightness  power  subsystem  type  uevent
[03:28] <Coburn> now we may be cooking with gass
[03:28] <Coburn> gas*
[03:28] <Equinox3> wilee-nilee:  yes, it helps me alot
[03:28] <Equinox3> unity bar is auto-hidden
[03:28] <mm12> just got ubuntu its great
[03:29] <Coburn> sarthor, can you do "sudo su" to go super user mode and then "cat /sys/class/backlight/toshiba/brightness"
[03:29] <Equinox3> mm12, wait till you run into something. ;)
[03:29] <Coburn> sudo su will require your password to go to superuser mode
[03:29] <sarthor> Coburn: cat /sys/class/backlight/toshiba/brightness
[03:29] <sarthor> 0
[03:29] <mm12> lik what?? lol Equinox3
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> Equinox3, Unity has gotten really better, I use the shell it has some cool extensions, I occasionally run unity and wax poetic on the cuuuube
[03:30] <Coburn> sarthor: can do you do "echo 5 > /sys/class/backlight/toshiba/brightness" ?
[03:30] <Coburn> Hopefully the lights will respond
[03:30] <Equinox3> wilee-nilee:  i don't exactly know what shell is
[03:31] <sarthor> I did that. no response of lights
[03:31] <Equinox3> mm12: you'll see. lol
[03:31] <mm12> ok brb
[03:31] <sarthor> Coburn: now cat /sys/class/backlight/toshiba/brightness
[03:31] <sarthor> 5
[03:31] <Coburn> okay, sarthor, can you do "cat /sys/class/backlight/toshiba/bl_power" ?
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> Equinox3, Ah, the gnome-shell it is gnome 3 which unity a plugin in compiz sits upon basically.
[03:31] <Coburn> There's gotta be a magic trick around here
[03:31] <sarthor> Coburn: cat /sys/class/backlight/toshiba/bl_power
[03:31] <sarthor> -191447536
[03:32] <Equinox3> ah ok
[03:32] <Equinox3> i tried gnome shell, but it seemed to use more memory than unity, so i switched
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> If you install the gnome-shell you get it and a fall back desktop of a psuedo gnome2
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> Heh, but you know that already it seems.
[03:34] <Equinox3> ya a bit
[03:34] <Equinox3> what email client do you recommend for unity, anyone?
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> !info geary | Equinox3
[03:36] <Equinox3> thanks lotuspsychje
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> np
[03:36] <jc_> 1
[03:36] <Coburn> sarthor: I'm out of ideas. I'd suggest trying the windows boot trick
[03:37] <Coburn> boot windows setup, wait until lights are on, hold power until PC is off, boot back up
[03:37] <Coburn> according to a thread, it helps
[03:37] <_joey> how do I enable pdf viewer in chromium? It downloads the file without rendering within the browser
[03:37] <sarthor> Coburn: you read here in the last? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1982078.html
[03:37] <Coburn> _joey: AFAIK PDF reader was disabled for security
[03:38] <_joey> is there a decent plugin?
[03:38] <sarthor> Coburn: it show cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/bl_power
[03:38] <sarthor> 0
[03:39] <Coburn> that would be your screen brightness
[03:43] <mm12> hi all
[03:43] <mm12> getting an erro ac4f-b051 when i try to log into windows
[03:43] <Equinox3> mm12, try the windows boot cd and fix startup
[03:44] <mm12> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5874448/
[03:44] <Equinox3> dual booting win7 right?
[03:44] <mm12> no windows 8
[03:45] <mm12> the only way i can into windows 8 is to go through the bios and tell it to go to windows8
[03:46] <Equinox3> mm12:  i don't know about win 8 but in win7, with the boot cd, it would detect you had broken startu and will try to fix it
[03:46] <Equinox3> try if it also with win8
[03:46] <Equinox3> this fixed mine
[03:46] <mm12> can i use grub
[03:47] <Equinox3> yes
[03:47] <mm12> hmm tells efi detected...please check options when i run grub
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> mm12, at the end of the script it says this are you? "Please do not forget to make your BIOS boot on sdc (1000GB) disk"!
[03:49] <mm12> ahh ok thanks
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> mm12, Heh, not sure that is the answer, uefi is more fun/terror than one should be allowed to have.
[03:57] <mm12> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5876258/
[04:00] <quietone> can't get wireless working on dell inspiron/precise/ broadcom BCM4313
[04:00] <quietone> but does work with BodhiLinux
[04:01] <wilee-nilee> quietone, You've seen the ubuntu broadcom wiki?
[04:02] <quietone> if this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2090138, then yes
[04:02] <mm12> i have a logitech webcam which software is good
[04:03] <mm12> i want to use it with skype
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | quietone good thread probably, but this.
[04:04] <whoever> mm12: what do you mean , you just answerd your own question
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> maybe the same info, I'm not up on broadcom, so this is just info.
[04:04] <quietone> yes, I skimmed that and not sure
[04:05] <mm12> Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Communicate STX
[04:06] <whoever> mm12: but you said you want to use it with skype, so do you have skype installed
[04:06] <mm12> yes i do
[04:06] <mm12> but i cant get it to work with it
[04:06] <whoever> mm12: so what is the prob
[04:06] <mm12> i want the use it so i can see the other person
[04:07] <quietone> that page is well, confusing not sure what to do
[04:07] <quietone> lost
[04:08] <quietone> am I supposed to use that legacy stuff? or not? How do I know?
[04:08] <whoever> mm12: you don't need a webcam to see the other person, they need one to see you
[04:08] <mm12> so how do i check if my webacm is working that the question
[04:08] <quietone> the machine is Ubuntu certified, why is it necessary to do extra stuff?
[04:09] <whoever> mm12: well what logitech do you have
[04:09] <mm12> Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Communicate STX
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> quietone, certified does not mean plug and play, but that ubuntu did the voodoo they explain you do, to make all things work.
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[04:10] <whoever> mm12: hold on am chekiing
[04:11] <quietone> wilee-nilee, thank you.
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> quietone, Hard to follow those wiki's though at times I will admit, the channel generally has people that are up on broadcom.
[04:12] <quietone> wilee-nilee, ah. I promised to fix my partner's machine and today is the day
[04:13] <aelmasry> hi all
[04:13] <quietone> lots of hours and no progress :-(
[04:13] <aelmasry> anyone can know the solution to this problem
[04:13] <aelmasry> http://cairoportal.com/
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> quietone, Being here is the best place I think, the weekends can be a bit slow is all.
[04:14] <aelmasry> anyone can know the solution to this problem http://cairoportal.com/
[04:14] <quietone> and i haven't even started on the touchpad problem yet! :-)
[04:14] <aelmasry> anyone can know the solution to this problem in this linke http://cairoportal.com/
[04:14] <quietone> ah, it is monday afternoon for me
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> quietone, Ah, generally the busiest times are equal to US/European day and evening m-f.
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> not sure that exactly helps.
[04:16] <quietone> just the price I pay for living in the future ...
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> lol, no warping back to change it now. ;)
[04:16] <helion20_> Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Communicate STX
[04:17] <mm12> Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Communicate STX
[04:17] <whoever> mm12: gstreamer-properties  video tab, click test
[04:18] <whoever> you should see yourself if not you need to find the drivers for your camera
[04:18] <aelmasry> whoever, are you see this erroe before The requested URL / was not found on this server.
[04:18] <aelmasry> anyone have solved to this error The requested URL / was not found on this server.
[04:18] <chunkyhead> I am getting this error when i try to open partitions i created in windows. sometimes i do get this, sometimes i dont, any idea why? PS: im using 13.04 and windows8 http://screencloud.net/v/qlvH
[04:19] <aelmasry> chunkyhead, r u see the error before
[04:19] <aelmasry> The requested URL / was not found on this server.
[04:20] <chunkyhead> aelmasry, what do you mean?
[04:20] <aelmasry> see this link http://cairoportal.com/
[04:20] <aelmasry> chunkyhead, http://cairoportal.com/
[04:21] <chunkyhead> aelmasry, what has that got to do with my problem?
[04:21] <aelmasry> what's problem
[04:21] <chunkyhead> aelmasry, I am getting this error when i try to open partitions i created in windows. sometimes i do get this, sometimes i dont, any idea why? PS: im using 13.04 and windows8 http://screencloud.net/v/qlvH
[04:22] <somsip> aelmasry: your virtual host is probably setup wrong, or your permissions are wrong.
[04:22] <mm12> whoever, found webacm works but why not in skype
[04:23] <aelmasry> somsip, i think no problem with permissions
[04:23] <aelmasry> somsip, i think no problem with permissions
[04:23] <aelmasry> and my virtual host no problem
[04:24] <whoever> mm12: i have never setup skype on linux, maybe you need to set it to /dev/vid0 in settings
[04:27] <ss_haze> chunkyhead, thats caused by sleep/hibernate regime set in windows..
[04:27] <chunkyhead> ss_haze, but i always shutdown i never hibernate/sleep
[04:28] <ss_haze> thats what you think, when you use windows
[04:28] <chunkyhead> ss_haze, what you say is pretty logical and make sence though.
[04:28] <chunkyhead> what do you mean?
[04:28] <ss_haze> windows thinks it does locked hard drive
[04:28] <ss_haze> or partition
[04:28] <chunkyhead> sense*
[04:29] <chunkyhead> any way to maybe bypass this and get to the drive?
[04:29] <ss_haze> turn on/off
[04:30] <chunkyhead> boot into windows again and switch off? -___-
[04:30] <ss_haze> maybe
[04:30] <ss_haze> I don't dualboot since
[04:31] <chunkyhead> ss_haze, this is shear stupidity. -_- i have to leave it upto chance for windows to free the lock on the partition. -_- i only dual boot coz i cant play games on ubuntu. :(
[04:32] <ss_haze> read error message
[04:33] <ss_haze> ok, I'm out
[04:33] <ss_haze> not too much time for this
[04:34] <quietone> well I followed the instructions (I think) and still can't see my wifi (but can see the neighbors)
[04:35] <nwid> Hey, I'm having a bit of an issue with ubuntu on an old macbook of mine. It keeps booting into low graphics mode. So I tried to boot to the GRUB menu (by holding shift at boot) and grub wouldn't show. Is there anyway to get to grub at all, or would it be less trouble to reinstall?
[04:35] <quietone> occasionally it will see my router
[04:35] <holstein> !grub | nwid
[04:36] <holstein> nwid: you can edit the options from there.. you can do it from tty or from the low graphics session
[04:56] <aelmasry> hi all
[04:57] <aelmasry> need help plz
[04:57] <Equinox3> aelmasry: whats the problem
[04:58] <aelmasry> Equinox3, The requested URL /build.xml was not found on this server.
[04:58] <holstein> aelmasry: what URL are you trying to open?
[04:58] <aelmasry> http://67.215.244.51/
[04:58] <aelmasry> holstein, http://67.215.244.51/
[04:58] <holstein> aelmasry: what is that? your ip?
[04:59] <aelmasry> my host
[04:59] <holstein> aelmasry: that 404's for me
[04:59] <somsip> aelmasry: paste your virtual host file
[04:59] <somsip> !paste | aelmasry
[04:59] <aelmasry> there way to remove apache and reinstall
[05:00] <aelmasry> remove apache and his files
[05:00] <somsip> aelmasry: yes, but that's the last thing to do. First thing to do is check you have setup the site correctly
[05:01] <aelmasry> somsip, not problem with site setup
[05:01] <aelmasry> because his work before
[05:02] <netlar> I just got Ubuntu streaming , but not sure how to access it
[05:02] <holstein> aelmasry: before what?
[05:02] <aelmasry> this problem show with i try install zpanel
[05:02] <aelmasry> holstein, before install zpanel
[05:02] <aelmasry> now i stoped zpanel
[05:02] <leotr> hello. By some reason i cannot log in using ssh (i can do it locally). What can be a reason?
[05:02] <aelmasry> and net reinstall apache
[05:03] <aelmasry> somsip, give me way to remove apache and files and reinstall again
[05:03] <holstein> leotr: firewall maybe
[05:03] <somsip> leotr: ssh -vvv can often give useful information
[05:03] <holstein> aelmasry: use a package manager to remove it
[05:04] <aelmasry> hoschi, package manager in ubuntu linux
[05:05] <holstein> aelmasry: correct.. open a package manager.. and remove or reinstall what you like
[05:05] <aelmasry> holstein, how
[05:05] <aelmasry> holstein, steps plz
[05:05] <holstein> aelmasry: what did you use to install apache?
[05:06] <aelmasry> apt-get
[05:06] <holstein> aelmasry: then use apt-get
[05:06] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/176964/permanently-removing-apache2
[05:06] <holstein> aelmasry: i searched "ubuntu remove apache"
[05:07] <aelmasry> holstein, i do it and try many why but nothing change
[05:08] <holstein> aelmasry: then, that is not the issue
[05:08] <holstein> aelmasry: i would deal with what broke it, zpanel.. where/how did you install and remove it?
[05:08] <biggamer11> hello
[05:09] <biggamer11> anyone there?
[05:09] <th0r> biggamer11, no
[05:09] <biggamer11> ugh
[05:09] <holstein> biggamer11: if you have a support question, ask.. otherwise, /join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat, please :)
[05:10] <biggamer11> ok i do have a support question, i have seemed to have locked myself out of my user account
[05:11] <aelmasry_> holstein, i need remove zpanel but i don't how
[05:11] <Icekitten> lol
[05:11] <holstein> biggamer11: i would try going to tty and login, to make sure that you are not using the incorrect password
[05:11] <biggamer11> i have tried that
[05:12] <holstein> biggamer11: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password
[05:12] <Nmbr1> biggamer11: reboot into recovery mode use the root shell to change your user password
[05:12] <holstein> aelmasry_: how did you install it?
[05:12] <aelmasry_> holstein, this link http://www.zvps.co.uk/zpanelcp/ubuntu-12-04
[05:12] <Icekitten> I've got a major malfunction lol... I'm running Ubuntu currently because I have no choice really. My problem is windows vista is currently stuck in an update loop. Hopefully someone has heard of this problem
[05:13] <Nmbr1> biggamer11: just be sure you didn't encrypt your home directory. if you encrypted your home directory and change the password you will need to then recover your encrypted home directory.
[05:13] <biggamer11> i did not encrypt the home directory
[05:13] <Nmbr1> Icekitten: what does windows vista have to do with using ubuntu
[05:13] <aeon-ltd> Icekitten: they might've in #windows
[05:13] <Nmbr1> biggamer11: then you should be good to reboot to recovery mode drop to root shell and change your user password
[05:14] <holstein> aelmasry_: why not ask them? they have a contact link http://www.zvps.co.uk/contact-us
[05:14] <aelmasry_> holstein, no time
[05:14] <biggamer11> thanks so much i will try that
[05:14] <aelmasry_> :)
[05:14] <holstein> aelmasry_: ?
[05:14] <aelmasry_> holstein, i don;t have time
[05:14] <Icekitten> I realize windows has nothing to do with Ubuntu but I do not have any idea where to go to solve my problem
[05:15] <holstein> aelmasry_: that is unfortunate.. since they are the ones tha provide the package
[05:15] <holstein> aelmasry_: there are no instructions?
[05:15] <aelmasry_> holstein, i try remove apache and install new by new config
[05:15] <aelmasry_> holstein, you know how
[05:15] <Nmbr1> biggamer11: if you need specifics or have issues, the steps are at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[05:15] <aelmasry_> holstein, my website now dony
[05:16] <holstein> aelmasry_: stop messing with apache.. if its zpanel that broke it
[05:16] <somsip> aelmasry: if you *really* want to do this "apt-get purge apache2" but I suspect it will not fix your issue. Be warned
[05:16] <Nmbr1> Icekitten: then you should ask your question in a room for windows or vista
[05:16] <aelmasry_> holstein, i need to restart my website again
[05:16] <Icekitten> hang on... is #windows a different chat?
[05:16] <holstein> aelmasry_: i would read the docuemtation that came with that package
[05:16] <Nmbr1> Icekitten: yep
[05:16] <aelmasry_> holstein, i did before
[05:16] <holstein> aelmasry_: did what?
[05:16] <Icekitten> hehe thx
[05:16] <biggamer11> all though i actully think my account got deactivated some how
[05:17] <aelmasry_> holstein, stoped include zpanel in apache
[05:18] <holstein> aelmasry_: unfortunately, i, nor ubuntu, nor cannonical, or any volunteer here maintain zpanel, so you'll have to ask them, or read the documentation.. feel free and pastebin uninstall docs if you need help parsing the information
[05:18] <lolcat> holstein: Well, maybe they SHOULD
[05:19] <holstein> lolcat: who should what?
[05:19] <lolcat> holstein: You, ubuntu, cannonical (maybe even spelled correctly) and any volunteer here.
[05:19] <lolcat> Maintain zpanel.
[05:20] <th0r> now there's an idea....we could also take up auto maintenance and brain surgery
[05:20] <brahmana> I have a Huawei E392 LTE USB modem. Ubuntu detects the device properly and I was able to create a new connection in connection manager.
[05:20] <holstein> lolcat: you are welcome to take it to the offtopic channel and provide support.. its aelmasry_ with the issue
[05:20] <brahmana> The device connects successfully and I am able to access the internet
[05:20] <brahmana> But quite often it disconnects within a few minutes of connecting.
[05:21] <brahmana> Singal strength is fairly good (3 out of 4 bars).
[05:21] <lolcat> holstein: Do I look like a techsupport monkey?
[05:21] <holstein> !ot | lolcat
[05:22] <lolcat> !guidelines | holstein
[05:22] <brahmana> I was wondering if installing the helper application that came with the device would be of any help here.
[05:23] <brahmana> I am a little averse to installing it as I feel the in-built support in Ubuntu is better than that application.
[05:23] <brahmana> Any suggestions?
[05:23] <aeon-ltd> brahmana: if it's easy to try out the app then i'd do it anyway to see if it works
[05:24] <holstein> brahmana: you could see about trying it from a live CD as well, so you dont break what you have
[05:24] <brahmana> holstein: aah live CD is indeed a good idea. It is the fear of breaking the existing thing that has stopped me from trying it.
[05:25] <aeon-ltd> brahmana: after checking stuff like physical interference
[05:25] <brahmana> aeon-ltd: How do I check such stuff?
[05:25] <holstein> brahmana: sometimes, you cant get away with it, if its something that requires a reboot..
[05:27] <aelmasry_> holstein, cairoportal.com
[05:27] <aeon-ltd> brahmana: items that may reflect radio waves such as foil, the likelihood of this stuff being the problem is very unlikely though
[05:27] <holstein> aelmasry_: what is that, friend?
[05:28] <aelmasry_> holstein, new error after remove apache and reinstall
[05:28] <aelmasry_> holstein, this url http://67.215.244.51/
[05:29] <holstein> aelmasry_: i would remove zpanel, since that is what caused the issue
[05:29] <aelmasry_> holstein, i will remove zpanel but i can't now
[05:29] <aelmasry_> holstein, you know this error
[05:29] <aelmasry_> http://67.215.244.51/
[05:30] <holstein> aelmasry_: no.. i have never seen that error.. but if installing zpanel caused the issue, that is where i would start
[05:30] <holstein> aelmasry_: the error says to check the log..
[05:31] <brahmana> holstein, aeon-ltd : Sorry got disconnected. The same problem which I described earlier.
[05:31] <brahmana> I had to unplug the device and put it back. The connection name just disappears from the list of connections when I click on the network icon.
[05:31] <aelmasry_> holstein, Internal Server Error
[05:31] <aelmasry_> holstein, no zpanel
[05:31] <aelmasry_> holstein, zpanel not working
[05:31] <brahmana> Is there a place where the network manager logs information?
[05:31] <holstein> aelmasry_: sure, but whatever the installer did likely caused the issue
[05:33] <dreadiscool> Hello! If I mount a Ramdisk, will that mount be available after a reboot?
[05:35] <aelmasry_> holstein, try this link plz http://cairoportal.com/
[05:35] <farbod> ایرانی وجود داره؟
[05:35] <holstein> aelmasry_: i get the same error there
[05:36] <holstein> !ir
[05:36] <holstein> fsheikh: ^
[05:37] <fsheikh> holstein: yes?
[05:37] <holstein> fsheikh: sorry
[05:38] <holstein> fsheikh: that was for a user who has left
[05:38] <fsheikh> holstein: no worries :-)
[05:39] <th0r> dreadiscool, only if you add it to fstab
[05:40] <th0r> dreadiscool, but the contents will be lost on reboot I believe
[05:40] <dreadiscool> Huh
[05:40] <dreadiscool> Well, I used this command -  mount -t tmpfs -o size=256M tmpfs /tmp/ramdisk/, and now, I can't use my files anymore :(
[05:40] <dreadiscool> How can I unmount it?
[05:41] <dreadiscool> Thanks for the help btw
[05:41] <aelmasry_> holstein, new error67.215.244.51/phpinfo.php
[05:41] <aelmasry_> :)
[05:41]  * Coburn flexes his wrists...
[05:41] <Coburn> Shoriuken!!
[05:41]  * Coburn ———[05:41] <FloodBot1> Coburn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:41]  * Coburn flexes his wrists...
[05:41] <Coburn> Shoriuken!!
[05:41]  * Coburn ———[05:41] <dreadiscool> :(
[05:41] <aelmasry_> holstein, are you see that before 67.215.244.51/phpinfo.php
[05:42] <aelmasry_> http://67.215.244.51/phpinfo.php
[05:42] <aeon-ltd> Coburn: you could at least spell shoryuken right
[05:42] <Coburn> oops
[05:42] <dreadiscool> th0r, are you there?
[05:42]  * Coburn flexes his wrists...
[05:42] <Coburn> Shoriuken!!
[05:42]  * Coburn ———[05:42] <FloodBot1> Coburn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:42] <dreadiscool> How do I unmount a ramdisk I mounted without a reboot :3
[05:42] <aeon-ltd> heheheheh :)
[05:42] <aeon-ltd> dreadiscool: umount?
[05:43] <th0r> dreadiscool, you should be able to umount /tmp/ramdisk I think
[05:43] <holstein> aelmasry_: yes
[05:44] <Coburn> sorry
[05:44] <Coburn> bad script on my codin
[05:44] <Coburn> what's the correct spellign?
[05:44] <aeon-ltd> Coburn: if the last line you posted was meant to be a fireball i'm assuming you meant hadouken not shoryuken
[05:44] <Jordan_U> Coburn: The next time it happens, for whatever reason, will result in a ban.
[05:46] <Coburn> yeah
[05:46] <Coburn> sorry again
[05:46] <Coburn> the script was meant to be a trigger via !<something> but I forgot a bracket
[05:47] <Jordan_U> Coburn: You should not have any triggered responses active in #ubuntu.
[05:50] <niocora> I'm having a problem with VLC where no files play sounds but they all play in any other program. VLC isn't muted in the sounds panel, I've tried resetting preferences soft and deleting all the prefs. But it still doesn't work. Any ideas?
[05:53] <aeon-ltd> niocora: i'm not on linux right now,  but i think under preferences/audio there is an option to choose output module, try changing them?
[05:56] <Aelmasry__> holstein, new error :)
[05:56] <anonymous_> hi
[05:56] <Aelmasry__> holstein, need you help
[05:56] <anonymous_> y
[05:57] <anonymous_> yes
[05:57] <Aelmasry__> anonymous_, hi
[05:58] <aeon-ltd> niocora: i'm not on linux right now,  but i think under preferences/audio there is an option to choose output module, try changing them?
[05:58] <niocora> Ok, I just installed the restricted extras I didn't have and restarted and now there's no sound in any program.
[05:58] <niocora> aeon-ltd: Tried that.
[05:58] <aeon-ltd> k
[05:58] <holstein> Aelmasry__: i would /join #ubuntu-server ..i would make sure you have zpanel removed.. i have to run, so just address your clear detailed queries to the channel.. good luck!
[05:59] <aeon-ltd> niocora: latest problem - check alsamixer
[06:00] <niocora> aeon-ltd: As in the CLI program?
[06:00] <aeon-ltd> yeah
[06:00] <jellow> anyone know of any encrypted cloud services ( calender , note taking , and backups ) that are cross platform and can hosted on arm ?
[06:00] <niocora> aeon-ltd: It's open, but I'm out of my depth in here.
[06:01] <aeon-ltd> niocora: does anything show MM ? if it is a output press 'm' to unmute, if the bars are not filled press up arrow key to increase the volume
[06:01] <jellow> being able to host on arm is not that important , I can just compile.
[06:03] <mehwork> i have php 5.4 installed in ubuntu 13.04, but i need to also run 5.3. What's an easy way to do that?
[06:03] <niocora> aeon-ltd: What am I looking for?
[06:03] <aeon-ltd> niocora: outputs that are muted
[06:04] <niocora> aeon-ltd: They're muted when they say MM?
[06:04] <aeon-ltd> yeah
[06:04] <niocora> Only front mic.
[06:04] <aeon-ltd> are the outputs maxed at 100?
[06:04] <qiyong> is acct useful?
[06:05] <niocora> 100 92 100 and 92
[06:05] <aeon-ltd> niocora: i'm out of ideas, sorry.
[06:06] <niocora> aeon-ltd: Should I un-install the plugins I just did that made it so that nothing works?
[06:06] <aeon-ltd> niocora: you can try yeah, if it restores sound at least you're down to one problem
[06:07] <_joey> what's a cool weather applet for openbox?
[06:08] <Aelmasry__> holstein, good news every think working now
[06:08] <Aelmasry__> http://cairoportal.com/
[06:08] <lenovo> Wow,I am new here
[06:09] <Aelmasry__> thank you holstein
[06:09] <lenovo> How to use XChat?
[06:10] <niocora> lenovo: #freenode  If you want IRC advice.
[06:17] <jeromerichy> \exit
[06:39] <nbinkley> exit
[06:44] <ihackdifferent> is there anybody out therrrreee!
[06:46] <iroda> hello! can someone help in adding bigger resolution to my 12.04.2 LTS? I've installed it on friday, and that monitor was 16:9, and there was avaiable a good resolution. I've connected a 19" 4:3 monitor, and now it is only 1024x768. I've tired https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution - but I need more info to xrandr --newmode. (eg. xrandr --newmode "1920x1200_60.00" 193.25 1920 2056 2256 2592 1200 1203 1209 1245 -hsync +vsync)
[06:47] <mm12> how do i install skype 64 bit
[06:50] <iroda> mm12, I think there is no 64 bit of that :( MS...
[06:50] <mm12> well ok then
[06:50] <mm12> 32bit
[06:56] <wilee-nilee> mm12, here is a wiki, I believe you can download from skype as well, the repo version is supported. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[06:57] <mm12> thanks for that wilee-nilee
[07:02] <bandroidx> hi are the natty 11.04 repos still available?
[07:03] <_joey> I installed xfce4-weather-plugin. How do I launch it?
[07:03] <_joey> it's an indicator applet
[07:04] <bandroidx> i found it old-releases.ubuntu.com
[07:06] <ubuntu> ubuntu
[07:06] <ubuntu> hello
[07:06] <k1l> !eol | bandroidx
[07:07] <bandroidx> k1l: i am using old-releases for now thanks though
[07:07] <Guest77240> how to configure nagios3 on ubuntu 12.04?
[07:07] <k1l> bandroidx: just be aware that they dont get any security related updates etc.
[07:08] <bandroidx> k1l: yeah i am aware thanks, i thought 11.04 was LTS for some reason
[07:08] <k1l> bandroidx: no, just 10.04 and 12.04 (but 10.04 only got support for the servers now)
[07:08] <Guest77240> hey thr.. how to configure nagios so that when my network is down I get an SMS
[07:09] <bandroidx> k1l: yeah i always use 12.04 for new installs now
[07:19] <deckard_> hello. What is the command for installing Lubuntu ?
[07:19] <deckard_> please
[07:19] <Steinar> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[07:20] <Steinar> I didn't know, but took me 3 seconds to Google. No offence
[07:20] <deckard_> okay i try that
[07:20] <k1l> !lubuntu | deckard_
[07:21] <deckard_> ty
[07:23] <deckard_> hmm, i dont find the sudo command to install on google
[07:24] <k1l> deckard_: ?
[07:25] <deckard_> i dont want to instal lubuntu by cd or usb, i want the sudo command
[07:25] <k1l> "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" didnt work?
[07:25] <deckard_> ty, that is what i was looking for
[07:25] <deckard_> ty
[07:27] <Neptu> hej is it possible to install ubuntu in a chrome book with exynos processors?
[07:33] <Marcus_> Hi, im making a firewall with IPTables that allows only sites/IPs im using, and after disabling UDP I have trouble figuring out which UDP ports is needed for internet connection (router DNS lookup, etc etc). Anyone know?
[07:34] <cfhowlett> Marcus_, if not here, the #ubuntu-server channel might have that
[07:38] <_joey> I run openbox. I installed xfce applet. I know xfce applets can be run in openbox. But how do I invoke the xfce applets in openbox? Thanks!
[07:39] <zipper> Which is the best way to learn django right now?
[07:39] <Marcus_> kk
[07:42] <Neptu> zipper, start coding
[07:42] <Neptu> zipper, read pep
[07:42] <Neptu> zipper, import this
[07:42] <zipper> Neptu I know how to code
[07:42] <zipper> Neptu in Python which is what I need since it's a lib
[07:43] <zipper> Neptu okay I'm waiting
[07:43] <Neptu> zipper, you need to code Django?
[07:44] <Neptu> I started with the youtube tutorials, pretty boring but they safe you some time in the begining
[07:45] <Neptu> after that is a question of learning the "magic" of django since it has a lot of naming conventions
[07:46] <zipper> Neptu I want to learn a few things about django first like how to use it with postgres, using it for uploads. I wanted to use the django book but I'm afraid it might be outdated.
[07:47] <Neptu> well the Django is a MCV so you do not need a lib to connect to it you need to create your data model and then meta magically you have all the data available.... that is one of the magic things
[07:47] <Neptu> I used if with postgres is cool
[07:47] <Neptu> with mongo is a mess still waiting for someone to do something about that
[07:47] <Ben64> Hi. Ubuntu 12.04, HP Probook 6565b. Broadcom 4313 [14e4:4727]. The wireless worked in the livecd, but not in the install. No wireless networks are found, and it is coming up as either eth0 or eth2, not wlan0
[07:47] <Neptu> never used blobs on Django and psotgres but should be supported
[07:48] <cfhowlett> Ben64, might need to manually install the driver but first, plug into a hardwire and check settings for additional drivers
[07:48] <Neptu> zipper, but this not seem to be the channel to ask for Django you better try an specific channel
[07:49] <Ben64> cfhowlett: its already activated, it must have done so during install
[07:49] <zipper> Ben64 have you tried running rfkill list all in terminal?
[07:50] <Ben64> no i have not
[07:50] <Sicp> yesterday I upgraded from Ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10, I had previously  canceled an upgrade midway (downloading phase), then was forced to do a "Partial upgrade", which I did
[07:50] <Sicp> and now I can start my machine just fine, with 12.10 installed
[07:50] <Sicp> but there is no internet access. I can connect to the network just fine, but I cannot access any website or anything of the sort
[07:50] <_joey> :(
[07:50] <Ben64> zipper: what am i looking for there
[07:50] <zipper> type "rfkill list all" and see if all is okay. That is the output is no no no
[07:51] <cfhowlett> I'd say your aborted/restarted partial upgrade might not have gone buttery smooth.
[07:51] <zipper> Ben64  checking to see if you've turned anything off
[07:51] <Ben64> zipper: all the soft/hard blocked say "no"
[07:51] <zipper> Neptu  the django channels seem to be password protected.
[07:51] <Neptu> ??
[07:51] <cfhowlett> Sicp, if you can get on the net but not to specific sites, that suggest DNS issues to me.  I'm no expert but ...
[07:52] <cfhowlett> Sicp IIRC the default test is run a terminal and ping www.google.com
[07:52] <Ben64> eth2 disappears when i hit the hardware switch to turn off wifi
[07:52] <Neptu> zipper, is your nick registered on freenode?
[07:52] <Ben64> why isn't it wlan0?
[07:52] <zipper> Neptu I don't know I'm unable to join I don't get it. I get this:4 #django: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[07:53] <Ben64> zipper: yeah, you need to register. /msg nickserv help register
[07:53] <Neptu> zipper, register yout nick nickserv
[07:53] <iroda> hello! can someone help in adding bigger resolution to my 12.04.2 LTS? I've installed it on friday, and that monitor was 16:9, and there was avaiable a good resolution. I've connected a 19" 4:3 monitor, and now it is only 1024x768. I've tired https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution - but I need more info to xrandr --newmode. (eg. xrandr --newmode "1920x1200_60.00" 193.25 1920 2056 2256 2592 1200 1203 1209 1245 -hsync +vsync)
[07:54] <zipper> Neptu I honestly don't know how to do that I'll google it. Ben64 I'm sorry can't help you with your wireless issue. I'd traceroute to see where things are going wrong though,
[07:54] <Sicp> I get unknown host google.com, cfhowlett
[07:55] <zipper> Neptu so you don't have a specific place you can recommend I assume?
[07:59] <Sicp> any idea, cfhowlett ?
[07:59] <auronandace> !register | zipper
[08:00] <_CookieMonster_> bekks: You here?
[08:00] <nibbler_> iroda: you need to compute the modeline?
[08:01] <zipper> obuttu Thanks
[08:01] <iroda> nibbler_ I think yes, because I don't know how to calculate those lines, I just need a better 4:3 resolution for a 19" monitor
[08:02] <cfhowlett> Sicp, yeah the negative results indicate that your DNS service isn't ... serving.  .It SHOULD default to the google DNS service.  That's as much as I can suggest, but someone in channel can  no doubt provide further guidance.
[08:02] <_CookieMonster_> Iroda: What are you having problems with ?
[08:02] <nibbler_> iroda: gtf x-res y-res frequency (gtf 1600 1200 60) would do that. read https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/HQsCY7ErAL4 for some humor and background
[08:03] <Sicp> ok I'll see what I can do
[08:03] <_CookieMonster_> Can anyone help me find out why Xorg isn't affecting my fixed resolution? http://pastebin.com/EhqSd1ga
[08:03] <iroda> _CookieMonster_ I can not select better resolution in the options, but the VGA card can do it better, just this monitor is "unknown"
[08:04] <_CookieMonster_> Iroda: That's the same problem I'm having - have you tried changing Xorg.conf?
[08:04] <_CookieMonster_> Iroda: I assume that's what you're doing now :P
[08:07] <iroda> _CookieMonster_ I don't want to config xorg.conf, otherwise it is empty now
[08:07] <_CookieMonster_> It seems like my xorg.conf isn't being picked up
[08:08] <_CookieMonster_> Iroda: Have you tried xrandr ?
[08:08] <iroda> nibbler_ I'll read that post
[08:08] <iroda> yeah _CookieMonster_ , but I couldn't add new mode
[08:08] <iroda> log-in-out, please wait
[08:09] <_CookieMonster_> Iroda: Did you use VGA-0 ?
[08:10] <iroda> re
[08:15] <zipper_> ubottu Server tab? I don't get it. "All the following commands should be typed in your server tab (it's probably called "Ubuntu IRC"; if you're on irssi, type « /win 1 »), so that if you mistype something, your personal information won't be shown in a public channel."???
[08:15] <ferr> how could I use terminal that I would not need to write sudo and password everytime?
[08:16] <zipper_> ferr log in a root :D *scary music plays in background*
[08:16] <cfhowlett> ferr, set up one account for daily use.  use the "sudo" account for system maintenance.
[08:16] <tata> I need similar program for Ubuntu like is windows synctoy?
[08:17] <cfhowlett> tata, this is ubuntu.  no idea what synctoy is so perhaps you might explain what you want to accomplish ...
[08:18] <moses> does anyone know how to fix a path issue with a fortran compiler?
[08:19]  * cfhowlett ... fortran?  FORTRAN?  
[08:19] <ferr> zipper_:  I'm logged in a root :| cfhowlett: so I need 2 accounts?
[08:20] <tata> ok, I have two big folders and I want to copy from 1 to 2 only defferant files
[08:20] <cfhowlett> ferr, need?  no.  but as a good practice, you set up a daily user account which has no system privileges for daily stuff.  Your admin account is specific to admin functions. Don't get them twisted.
[08:26] <varunendra> tata, perhaps the most perfect tool for doing what you want is 'rsync' program. Take a look at "man rsync" (in terminal) to see how to use it.
[08:31] <tking> please i installed boost library while i removed it using purge i remove it removed libre office is there a way to install it from terminal back? or how else?
[08:31] <root-gne> goodmorning
[08:31] <root-gne> i have a problem
[08:32] <cfhowlett> !details|root-gne,
[08:32] <root-gne> i installed ubuntu 13.04 in dell inspiron 1525
[08:32] <root-gne> and i dont have internet connection
[08:32] <root-gne> how can i fix it
[08:32] <cfhowlett> root-gne, you'll likely  need to do a broadcom wifi driver install.
[08:33] <root-gne> how can i do that
[08:33] <cfhowlett> root-gne, first, plug into a hard line network connection and check for additional drivers
[08:33] <root-gne> i dont have hard line connection
[08:33] <cfhowlett> root-gne, see the following   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[08:33] <kgalahassa> varunendra, your yesterday's proposition was wonderful, i'm satisfied. thks
[08:34] <cfhowlett> root-gne, for what it's worth, my 1545 required me to use the STA no internet access method.  2 minutes at the terminal and I had wifi.  No reboot required.
[08:34] <kgalahassa> I'm talking about screen'brightness. it's good now.
[08:35] <varunendra> kgalahassa, congrats ! :)
[08:35] <tking> please i installed boost library while i removed it using purge i remove it removed libre office is there a way to install it from terminal back? or how else?
[08:37] <varunendra> tking, "sudo apt-get install libreoffice" ??
[08:38] <root-gne> that with STA will must have cd install in cdrom
[08:39] <cfhowlett> root-gne, true indeed.  you DO have one of those right?
[08:39] <root-gne> zes
[08:39] <root-gne> yes
[08:39] <Ben64> Hi. Ubuntu 12.04, HP Probook 6565b. Broadcom 4313 [14e4:4727]. The wireless worked in the livecd, but not in the install. No wireless networks are found, and it is coming up as either eth0 or eth2, not wlan0. the driver "brcmsmac" freezes the whole computer if i try to insert that module
[08:39] <root-gne>  ihave
[08:39] <varunendra> root-gne, could you show us (preferably pastebin link) output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net" ?
[08:40] <cfhowlett> Ben64, suggest you reinstall the driver  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[08:40] <varunendra> Ben64, does "lsmod | grep wl" return an output?
[08:43] <Ben64> varunendra: yep
[08:44] <PsyKoTic> Hey guys, anyone willing to help me with a GRUB2 problem I'm having?
[08:44] <sw> !ask | PsyKoTic
[08:45] <varunendra> Ben64, did you try the brcmsmac driver while the sta one was installed?
[08:45] <varunendra> and how did you actually try to 'insert' it? Using "insmod" command? Ben64
[08:46] <Ben64> varunendra: tried it when it was installed, froze, removed it, then the whole thing froze on boot (I'm thinking it tried to load it on boot and died)
[08:46] <Ben64> varunendra: oh, and modprobe
[08:47] <ZakBawlz> ok
[08:47] <PsyKoTic> Okay, basically I installed Windows after partitioning my 500GB HDD. After installing Ubuntu I got a "File not found: Grub rescue>" I used supergrub to boot into Ubuntu but I can't use it to boot into Windows 7. I checked the files from my Windows partition and they're still all there. Any help?
[08:47] <zipper> Just tried registering for freenode I entered: /server caht.freenode.net                                            and it returned: You may not reregister
[08:47] <wilee-nilee> PsyKoTic, Are you in ubuntu now?
[08:47] <PsyKoTic> Yes
[08:48] <wilee-nilee> PsyKoTic, Post sudo fdisk -l in a pastebin.
[08:48] <varunendra> Ben64, that's quite strange for me. The brcmsmac has been a decent driver in my experience so far.
[08:49] <PsyKoTic> pastebin.com/p5VkcqHE
[08:49] <cfhowlett> varunendra, my manually installed broadcom has worked fine, that's why I suggested he reinstall
[08:50] <Ben64> its an HP if that matters... hp_wmi is loaded
[08:50] <varunendra> cfhowlett, as per the lsmod | grep wl command output, they already seem to have it installed.
[08:51] <cfhowlett> varunendra, right, right.  there were some kernel upgrades as well.  the tutorial I used was for 10.04 but worked for 12.04 as well.  However, a couple files had already been rolled into the kernel so weren't seen.  The method still worked though
[08:51] <icekitten> This is my problem. Where is my 100GB hard drive?
[08:51] <icekitten> https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/996520_174859249361788_1528664161_n.jpg
[08:52] <wilee-nilee> PsyKoTic, Have you tried to reload the mbr with grub?
[08:52] <PsyKoTic> No. Could you tell me how? :)
[08:52] <wilee-nilee> PsyKoTic, Run   sudo grub-install /dev/sda : sudo update-grub
[08:53] <wasanzy> any one have success installing ubuntu side ways windows 8?
[08:53] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, "besides" windows 8?  yes.
[08:53] <PsyKoTic> ahaha
[08:53] <varunendra> Ben64, brcmsmac is working fine for many users in 13.04. For 12.04, you may try this post : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140263&p=12625996#post12625996
[08:53] <wasanzy> as in dual boot
[08:54] <wilee-nilee> PsyKoTic, Windows showing in the grub-update?
[08:54] <root-gne> i dont have connection as with live cd
[08:54] <mathnode> Does anyone know how to skip/disable/kill-with-fire, the installer that is intiated with the mysql-server package?
[08:54] <Ben64> varunendra: well i could try to install 13.04
[08:54] <PsyKoTic> should i just sudo apt-get update ?
[08:54] <Ben64> varunendra: this so far is a fresh 12.04 install, so nothing would be lost. i generally prefer LTS
[08:54] <PsyKoTic> Because I can't seem to reload mbr
[08:55] <varunendra> Ben64, I'd suggest you try the older version of wl first, as suggested in that post.
[08:55] <wilee-nilee> PsyKoTic, copy and paste this whole command and report what happens, sudo grub-install /dev/sda : sudo update-grub
[08:56] <wilee-nilee> PsyKoTic, YOu have to be in the ubuntu install.
[08:56] <varunendra> root-gne, what is the output of "lspci -nn | grep 0280" ? Full output
[08:56] <PsyKoTic> I am wilee
[08:57] <PsyKoTic> http://pastebin.com/WnMnRYLs
[08:57] <PsyKoTic> I'm gonna try hirens boot cd
[09:00] <nowords> wc
[09:00] <wilee-nilee> PsyKoTic, Try this, I just ran it it works, sudo grub-install /dev/sda && sudo update-grub
[09:01] <wilee-nilee> PsyKoTic, Hirens is the last app you want.
[09:02] <wasanzy> anyone to help we with the installation? if I install windows 8 first and partition the disk, ubuntu doesn't seem to see the partition so it tries to use the entire disk which is by removing the windows 8 too
[09:02] <cfhowlett> !uefi|wasanzy,
[09:02] <PsyKoTic> Wilee, it wants to install a menu.lst
[09:02] <wilee-nilee> PsyKoTic, I had a : rather then ; as the and
[09:02] <blazemore> wasanzy: Try running chkdsk in Windows before installing
[09:02] <PsyKoTic> oh okay
[09:02] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, normal behavior for uefi/windows 8
[09:02] <mathnode> The ubuntu launchpad sessions for reporting bugs are timing out.
[09:02] <PsyKoTic> So should i reboot wilee? :D
[09:03] <wilee-nilee> PsyKoTic, menu.list is grub legacy what is the ubuntu release?
[09:03] <PsyKoTic> 13.04
[09:03] <PsyKoTic> That's what I thought :P
[09:04] <wilee-nilee> PsyKoTic, Are you sure menu .list it should install-grub should finish with no errors and the updtae-grub should show the grub list
[09:04] <wilee-nilee> grub2 boot list
[09:04] <PsyKoTic> It looked for a menu.lst, couldn't find one and asked if I wanted one generated
[09:05] <wasanzy> cfhowlett, so should I install windows 8 first or ubuntu first?
[09:05] <PsyKoTic> ubuntu wasanzy
[09:06] <wilee-nilee> PsyKoTic, I would have to see that, better yet you can generate a bootinfo summary with this app, just run the summary and post the urk generated.  PsyKoTic
[09:06] <icekitten> https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/996520_174859249361788_1528664161_n.jpg Maybe, Ubuntu created its own drive out of nothing lmao its the only thing that makes sense
[09:06] <PsyKoTic> What app?
[09:06] <wilee-nilee> PsyKoTic, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[09:06] <PsyKoTic> thanks :)
[09:06] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, your windows are still there, but you might need to jigger it a bit to get a bootable system.  Can't help with that ... perhaps in #windows
[09:06] <wilee-nilee> sorry, lol
[09:07] <wasanzy> cfhowlett: I formated the entire disk already
[09:07] <PsyKoTic> installing now, gonna burn to a USB
[09:07] <PsyKoTic> Should I use dd?
[09:07] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, ah, well then.  reinstall win8
[09:08] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, then do your ubuntu.  use the uefi guide
[09:08] <wasanzy> oh ok
[09:09] <PsyKoTic> wilee-nilee what's the package name so I can run it?
[09:09] <Jordan_U> wasanzy: Most likely your partition table is (or was) corrupt. You can check this by running "sudo parted -l" which will give you an error message explaining exactly whats wrong if your partition table is invalid.
[09:09] <PsyKoTic> oh shit it didn't even install
[09:09] <wasanzy> ok
[09:11] <PsyKoTic> Wilee-nilee should i make a bootinfo report
[09:11] <PsyKoTic> ?
[09:11] <mathnode> Anyone? Launchpad is timing out, so I can't submit my big (with big swear words). Can the installer be disabled for mysql-server?
[09:11] <wilee-nilee> PsyKoTic, Yes just run the bootinfo summary and post the url it gives.
[09:11] <wasanzy> Jordan_U, no error was reported but the partition table is gpt
[09:12] <mathnode> oh it's apt-get -d apparently
[09:12] <Jordan_U> wasanzy: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[09:12] <timriley> Hi
[09:13] <timriley> I've got a problem with Ubuntu, every now and then it crashes
[09:13] <timriley> I was hoping I could find the solution here
[09:14] <PsyKoTic> wilee-nilee : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5876829/
[09:14] <PsyKoTic> It says Vista but it's 7 (Don't wanna look like a massive n00b) :P
[09:17] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, Hey, would you take a look at PsyKoTic's bootinfo above,
[09:17] <wasanzy> Jordan_U, http://paste.scsys.co.uk/261880
[09:17] <kingbeast> PsyKoTic, make sure you change your password when you're done
[09:18] <wilee-nilee> PsyKoTic, You have as I thought from the fdisk a bit of a mixture of HD's sdb shows efi, sda does not, a bit beyond my skills.
[09:18] <PsyKoTic> You mean my Ubuntu password?
[09:18] <PsyKoTic> ah shit
[09:18] <PsyKoTic> Should i just restore MBR?
[09:19] <wooo> I have made an image file of sd card. I want to read it in hex form. Is there any way to do that ?
[09:19] <PsyKoTic> Open it in a hex editor
[09:20] <Jordan_U> wasanzy: Could you post a screenshot of the Ubuntu installer showing the drive as unallocated?
[09:20] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | wasanzy
[09:21] <digitalknight> hi all
[09:21] <digitalknight> I am trying to install libssh2 in ubuntu 10 something
[09:21] <digitalknight> apt-get tells me that there is no package named that
[09:21] <digitalknight> how do I solve that?
[09:21] <Ben64> varunendra: doesn't work
[09:21] <wasanzy> am currently not installing yet. I will do the reinstallation soon
[09:21] <Ben64> digitalknight: 10 what
[09:22] <iceroot> digitalknight: apt-cache search libssh2  is showing libssh2-1 here (debian)
[09:22] <blazemore> digitalknight: Why are you trying to install libssh? And 10 what?
[09:22] <iceroot> digitalknight: so find out the correct package-name with apt-cache search
[09:22] <digitalknight> how do I check the distro version?
[09:22] <Jordan_U> wasanzy: You don't need to actually install, just go through the installer enough to demonstrate the problem you're having (and I'm going to leave soon).
[09:22] <varunendra> Ben64, checked the current version in use? (dpkg -s bcmwl-kernel-source | grep -i version)
[09:22] <iceroot> digitalknight: cat /etc/issue
[09:23] <digitalknight> ah,thanks iceroot
[09:23] <digitalknight> 10.04
[09:23] <iceroot> digitalknight: you should not use 10.04 anymore as a desktop system because it will not get security updates anymore (for the gui part)
[09:23] <digitalknight> blazemore: i need to do SSH tunneling from my app
[09:23] <iceroot> !eol | digitalknight
[09:24] <Ben64> varunendra: yeah theres some problem with it, the wl driver is non existent now
[09:24] <wasanzy> ok,
[09:24] <digitalknight> iceroot: thanks,but this is running in a VM
[09:24] <digitalknight> not sure if I should risk the upgrade there
[09:24] <iceroot> digitalknight: and what should be the difference?
[09:25] <iceroot> digitalknight: if you use the system to surf on the internet for example or to store important data you should update
[09:25] <digitalknight> iceroot: I have a lot of servers set up currently,I just don't want to go throughout the trouble of setting them up :)
[09:25] <digitalknight> I am on a Macbook Pro
[09:25] <iceroot> digitalknight: if you use it as a server, everything is fine
[09:25] <iceroot> digitalknight: oh i am sorry that you have a macjail pro .(
[09:25] <digitalknight> iceroot: yes,primarily as a server and a dev environment
[09:26] <digitalknight> iceroot: true that, I hate mac
[09:26] <iceroot> digitalknight: the server edition is still getting sec-updates just not the desktop part
[09:26] <digitalknight> iceroot: ok,now,how do I solve this?
[09:26] <digitalknight> apt cache?
[09:27] <iceroot> !find libssh2-1 lucid
[09:27] <iceroot> digitalknight: sudo apt-get install libssh2-1
[09:27] <iceroot> digitalknight: the package is called libssh2-1 and not libssh2
[09:27] <digitalknight> oh,thanks a ton iceroot !
[09:27] <digitalknight> let me try compiling my app again
[09:28] <iceroot> digitalknight: then maybe you want libssh2-1-dev
[09:28] <varunendra> Ben64, couldn't get it. Do you mean it is not in the repositories anymore? (version 5.100.82.38+bdcom-0ubuntu6)
[09:28] <digitalknight> iceroot: lt me install that as well
[09:28] <JuanTambayan> how to create webpage?
[09:29] <MonkeyDust> JuanTambayan  echoecho.com
[09:30] <digitalknight> ah,getting undefined reference errors
[09:31] <Ben64> varunendra: its there, it installs, but doesn't work, no module available
[09:31] <Jordan_U> wasanzy: Are you having trouble getting that screenshot?
[09:31] <JuanTambayan> how to create webpage?
[09:32] <randoof> Hi, can I ask a very newbie question please?
[09:32] <cfhowlett> !ask|randoof,
[09:32] <varunendra> Ben64, do you mean modprobe wl gives errors even after installing it? Could be a compilation error if so. Which kernel version you are at?
[09:33] <randoof> !ask
[09:33] <Ben64> varunendra: module not found, 3.5.0-23-generic
[09:33] <MonkeyDust> randoof  so what's your question?
[09:33] <randoof> I just used the "mv" command with a trailing slash ie 'mv /home/randoof/myDir/ myDirectory' and it's disappeared, has it gone?!
[09:34] <digitalknight> !patience
[09:35] <varunendra> Ben64, read the Edit 1 on that post then. You will need to follow the method for newer kernels as mentioned here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140640&p=12629619#post12629619
[09:35] <llutz> randoof: it's "myDiretory" now, in the dir you have been in when issueing the mv-command
[09:36] <llutz> randoof: find ~ -type d -name "myD*"
[09:36] <randoof> oh fantastic, thank you so muh
[09:36] <randoof> much*
[09:36] <JuanTambayan> how to create webpage?
[09:36] <Ben64> varunendra: which edit?
[09:37] <Ben64> JuanTambayan: not really an ubuntu issue, look up html guides?
[09:37] <wizrd> randoof: remember to specify the full destination path when copying or moving
[09:37] <cfhowlett> JuanTambayan, this is not a webpage creation channel ... are you asking in general or about using ubuntu specifically?
[09:37] <wizrd> unless you are certain about the location from where you issue the command
[09:37] <llutz> JuanTambayan: open an editor of your choice, type ahead. you might want to read somethink like selfhtml.org
[09:37] <MonkeyDust> JuanTambayan  type /join #html
[09:37] <varunendra> Ben64, the one at the top of the post I linked to. But nevermind that, it'll just point you to the link I just posted above.
[09:37] <digitalknight> iceroot: worked,thanks a ton
[09:38] <digitalknight> and I shall try upgrading as well
[09:38] <varunendra> Ben64, the edit was on the earlier post that I gave you link of.
[09:38] <digitalknight> If it is was not a company laptop, I would have removed Mac OS and replaced it with 13
[09:47] <wasanzy> Jordan_U, No I have to install windows 8 first and then ubuntu to show u what is happening. sorry it will take little time
[09:53] <zhanglang> hi
[09:54] <Beetoo> ubuntu not discovering hardware after fresh install
[09:54] <ikonia> Beetoo: what hardware and how is it not working ?
[09:55] <Beetoo> well during installation, the mouse the network and graphics card all work
[09:55] <ikonia> Beetoo: can you please expand beyond "not working"
[09:55] <Beetoo> but when i reboot, i get 4:3 resolution with nothing working. not even the usb mouse
[09:56] <ikonia> Beetoo: ok - lets approach it one thing at t atime
[09:56] <Beetoo> ok
[09:56] <ikonia> Beetoo: is your mouse not moving / wortking at all, or just not working as you expect ?
[09:56] <Beetoo> not moving at all
[09:57] <ikonia> Beetoo: ok, do you know/are you capable of opening a terminal on your desktop ?
[09:57] <Beetoo> the pointer is stuck at the center. only laptop keyboard works
[09:57] <ikonia> Beetoo: does your laptop have a trackpad/nipple on it ?
[09:57] <Beetoo> yes. but it also does not work
[09:58] <ikonia> Beetoo: ok, so can you please open a terminal ?
[09:58] <Beetoo> yes i can open terminal
[09:58] <ikonia> Beetoo: ok, if you do "ls -la /dev/mouse" is there a device there ?
[09:59] <Beetoo> no. only /dev/sda
[09:59] <blazemore> Beetoo: Is there a keyboard shortcut on your laptop to disable the trackpad? What model of laptop do you have?
[09:59] <ikonia> Beetoo: /dev/input ?
[09:59] <Beetoo> i have sony vaio vpceb36fg
[10:00] <Beetoo> its not only about mouse. the ethernet card also does not work
[10:00] <ikonia> Beetoo: yes, buy lets do one thing at a time as I've just said
[10:00] <blazemore> Beetoo: Check anyway, they're totally separate issues
[10:00] <Beetoo> "ip link" only lists "lo". nothing else
[10:00] <blazemore> Beetoo: forget network for now
[10:00] <ikonia> Beetoo: ok, bad luck you're ignored
[10:00] <Beetoo> ok
[10:00] <blazemore> Beetoo: Network will be a lot easier to fix once we get your mouse working, but you *must* be cooperative
[10:00] <Beetoo> ok
[10:02] <Beetoo> but i am not on ubuntu now as network doesn't work. so i can not currently check the commands
[10:02] <blazemore> Beetoo: Do you have another computer you can use for IRC? or do you have a wireless network you can connect to on Ubuntu?
[10:03] <icekitten> Could someone give me the command life in Terminal to instal the adobe flash player plug-in
[10:03] <ikonia> !flash | icekitten
[10:04] <Beetoo> wait. i can chat from mobile
[10:05] <icekitten> Thats all  great but shouldnt it be sudo-apt install... something
[10:05] <vorlket> hi i am using ubuntu 12.04 and SMART status says my DISK FAILURE IS IMMINENT with WARNING: The partition is misaligned by 3072 bytes. This may result in very poor performance. Repartitioning is suggested. Is there a way to recover the system exactly to current state without any installation?
[10:05] <wizrd> icekitten: sudo apt-get install <package>
[10:07] <icekitten> The package name please?
[10:07] <ikonia> icekitten: did you read the link ubottu gave you ?
[10:07] <ikonia> it gives important information
[10:07] <cfhowlett> !flash|icekitten,
[10:08] <icekitten> I have problems with the software center... it laggs my pc so much and I hardly ever achieve anything with it and I know thereare commands to get everything from the terminal
[10:08] <beetoo2> Hey blazemore
[10:09] <ikonia> icekitten: have you READ the link ubottu have you
[10:09] <icekitten> Yes
[10:09] <unitraxx> Hello all!
[10:09] <cfhowlett> unitraxx, greetings
[10:09] <icekitten> *giggles* mostly ;)
[10:09] <icekitten> hehe'
[10:11] <unitraxx> Quick question : I'm installing ubuntu (13.04, doesn't matter) on an UEFI machine (disabling secure boot actually worked. lovely Asus. MSI didn't know this success.), but now I got to the point of manually partitioning! Where do I put my boot loader ? /dev/sda (default) or /dev/sda1 where my efi partition is located. (Aha I should mention that windows 8 is preinstalled.)
[10:11] <icekitten> hmmm... I'm going to read deeper but  I didnt see anything for chrome
[10:11] <icekitten> I know its integrated but it still asked me to install adobe
[10:12] <ikonia> nothing is intergrated
[10:12] <ikonia> as the document shows the name of the search and package you need
[10:12] <icekitten> Right
[10:12] <unitraxx> I've got 64 gigs of unallocated space. (I've got 8 Gig RAM) Do you recommend me using a swap partition?
[10:12] <cfhowlett> unitraxx, couldn't hurt
[10:14] <icekitten> Fine. I'll try the software center because adobe isnt as easy as every other command lol
[10:15] <longwuyuan> raring install on mbpro-late13 = fan speed high. please help. macfanctld not doing its thing
[10:15] <cfhowlett> !mac|longwuyuan,
[10:16] <wizrd> unitraxx: I have a swap space of 32 gb while I have 32 gb RAM. Just in case ...
[10:17] <longwuyuan> cfhowlet: ??
[10:17] <cfhowlett> cfhowlett, see the link for resources.  I've only used an ihackintosh so that doesn't count
[10:18] <unitraxx> cfhowlett: did you see my first question ? (the long one :) about efi partition)
[10:19] <cfhowlett> unitraxx, yep.  again, ihackintosh.  different beast.  for mac help see the mac support pages.  most here are NOT on mac ...
[10:20] <wizrd> unitraxx: I would go gor the default option
[10:20] <unitraxx> I'm on an asus.. not a mac :)
[10:20] <cfhowlett> unitraxx, DOH!  right.  sorry.
[10:20] <Lorra> Hi everybody! Can anybody tell me why I have a .config and a .rpmdb directories in my root directory? (that is /.config and /.rpmdb) I've never heard about them...
[10:20] <unitraxx> If I take the default option, will it detect the efi partition itself?
[10:20] <ikonia> Lorra: nott using ubuntu ?
[10:20] <cfhowlett> unitraxx, wizrd is right, though.  default settings usually the right thing to do.
[10:21] <wizrd> Lorra: a folder or file starting with a dot is hidden
[10:21] <Lorra> ikonia: I am using ubuntu
[10:21] <ikonia> Lorra: can you show me the output of uname -a please.
[10:21] <Lorra> ikonia: ubuntu 12.04.2
[10:21] <unitraxx> the very default option of ubuntu is "install ubuntu alongside windows 8" and nobody picks that one either. :D
[10:21] <Lorra> ikonia: Linux HeyHey 3.2.0-49-generic #75-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 18 17:39:32 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:21] <Lorra>  
[10:21] <ikonia> Lorra: the .config directory is not a problem but have you been trying to use rpm's ?
[10:21] <sb4953> Hi
[10:22] <cfhowlett> sb4953, greetings
[10:22] <Lorra> ikonia: I don't have any rpm handling software, I only have I package which I "aliened" into a rpm before dpkg -i'ing it
[10:22] <ikonia> Lorra: there we go then
[10:22] <Lorra> *into a deb, pardon
[10:23] <ikonia> that's the issue
[10:23] <ikonia> that's what's created teh rpmdb
[10:28] <irec> Anyone tried running Nemo as replacement for Files in 13.04? If so, problems?
[10:33] <blazemore> irec: I run nemo on Linux Mint 15 with no issues
[10:34] <irec> blazemore:  As do I... I wanted some of the functionality in Ubuntu though...
[10:34] <blazemore> irec: You could try it, it can't hurt
[10:34] <irec> but without the problems...
[10:34] <irec> I will... thought I'd check first
[10:37] <BluesKaj> HI all
[10:38] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, greetings BK!
[10:38] <irec> blazemore:  ty
[10:38] <BluesKaj> Hi cfhowlett
[10:40] <christoz> greetings people, is it possible to install ubuntu server in a vbox with 64mb or 128mb given available memory?
[10:41] <ikonia> christoz: no
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> christoz  server does not require a GUI, so I guess it's possible
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> ok, so no
[10:41] <ikonia> look at the minimum requirements
[10:42] <wizrd> christoz: you can install Ubuntu server in a vbox but not with your specs
[10:45] <christoz> thats not my hardware ram specs, i have 2gb RAM which are consumed by windows 8, my vga which is consuming 128mb from RAM, and i want to give the minimal amount of ram for the box to run ubuntu server with no desktop
[10:45] <ikonia> christoz: what is the spec of the virtual machine you want to run it in
[10:47] <christoz> ikonia: virtualbox doc says that i need at least 512 ram for it
[10:47] <ikonia> christoz: right...so that's what you need then
[10:48] <blazemore> christoz: I don't understand the issue
[10:49] <christoz> blazemore: ikonia: yes, but whats the minimal additional memory to be given to run ubuntu server with no desktop
[10:49] <Dinnah> can i install SQL server 2005 in Ubuntu??
[10:49] <ikonia> christoz: 512mb
[10:49] <ikonia> if that's what the doc says
[10:49] <ikonia> Dinnah: no
[10:49] <snpresent> hello!!!
[10:49] <blazemore> Hello snpresent
[10:50] <cfhowlett> snpresent, greetings
[10:50] <Dinnah> ikonia......i there any other database that i can use?
[10:50] <ikonia> Dinnah: mysql, postgres etc
[10:50] <christoz> ikonia: 512 is only for vbox machine, not with ubuntu
[10:50] <ikonia> christoz: right, the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[10:51] <christoz> ikonia: yep, i was just asking if anyone has use it with the minimal requirements and less
[10:51] <christoz> used*
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> christoz: I suggest you run Xubuntu or Lubuntu in a virtual system
[10:52] <ikonia> christoz: the minimum requirements meens "required" so you don't run it with "less"
[10:52] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: he wants to run server
[10:53] <torocatala_> Hello
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: even better :)
[10:53] <cfhowlett> torocatala_, greetings
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> christoz: RAM requirements will depend on the use of the server, a file and print server will run fine ion 512Mb, an SQL server may struggle...and so forth
[10:54] <Torocatala> so
[10:54] <Dinnah> ikonia.....if say i use mysql...dan switch 2 windows os....i can open the database i created with mysql in sql server?
[10:54] <ikonia> Dinnah: mysql is available in windows yes, but you can't open mysql databases in sql server
[10:55] <Dinnah> Ikonia....oh! yeah....tanx a lot.
[10:56] <Torocatala> I have a laptop running last xubuntu version. The laptop has an integrated webcam. The webcam works but I wanted to know if there is any command that will showme info of the webcam on the console. I tried both lsusb and lspci and it show nothing. Thanks.
[10:56] <snpresent> and i just thought that  Dash  responds  too slow   when usr use it,
[10:57] <christoz> ActionParsnip: i need it for web development,  not for public use, in that case maybe i should switch back to linux, i need open ssl and wamp i'm having issues with wamp about that.
[10:57] <unitraxx> installed the bootloader as default, restarted, and it just boots in windows..
[10:57] <unitraxx> what now
[10:58] <BluesKaj> Torocatala, pastebin lspci  anyway
[10:58]  * christoz sorry for the typo
[10:59] <Torocatala> BluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5877076/
[10:59] <ispirto> how can i "output" the iowait without using top
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> christoz: should be ok, 1 user will put minimal strain on a server
[10:59] <unitraxx> if I install ubuntu alongside windows 8, both in uefi, what menu should I get to choose what to boot?
[10:59] <unitraxx> grub or windows ?
[11:00] <nnyk_> Hi guys, please how can i copy the output of top (or terminal commands) directly to the clipboard?
[11:00] <christoz> thanks for your time guys, i'll try with minimal ram and see what happens. cheers
[11:00] <ikonia> nnyk_: you can't
[11:00] <ikonia> nnyk_: you'd need to screen scrape it
[11:01] <troulouliou_dev> hi image viewer is always crashing here in 13.04 especially with larger jpg; anybody facing this issue too ?
[11:01] <nnyk_> ikonia: hmm...okay, thanks
[11:01] <OerHeks> nnyk_, use xclip http://askubuntu.com/questions/184397/how-do-i-pipe-terminal-standard-output-stdout-to-the-clipboard
[11:03] <unitraxx> some guide says I should've installed the boot loader on sda7 (in my case, because I installed root there.)
[11:03] <unitraxx> any comments ?
[11:03] <ikonia> unitraxx: the boot loader belongs on the mbr
[11:03] <unitraxx> ok good
[11:03] <k1l> unitraxx: the bootloader needs to go into the MBR on the device, not into a partition
[11:04] <nnyk_> OerHeks: thanks, what I was looking for. :D
[11:04] <unitraxx> so what do I have to change now to get grub or so, instead of booting into windows
[11:05] <BluesKaj> Torocatala, by process of elimination it looks like this one , Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 5289 (rev 01)
[11:05] <irec> OerHeks: nice... didn't know xclip
[11:05] <Torocatala> BluesKaj, but isn't that the WiFi card?
[11:06] <k1l> unitraxx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:06] <unitraxx> but I did not install windows afterwards
[11:06] <BluesKaj> Torocatala, no , this one is your wifi , Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[11:07] <k1l> unitraxx: but you got the same problem, because you did install the bootloader into the wrong place
[11:07] <unitraxx> why did I install it in the wrong place ? I just picked the default option
[11:07] <unitraxx> \dev\sda
[11:07] <k1l> unitraxx: you just told you made it into sda7
[11:08] <unitraxx> I did not, that's what a guide said I should've done, but I did not
[11:08] <OerHeks> nnyk_,  irec have fun
[11:08] <ikonia> unitraxx no you didnt
[11:08] <ikonia> unitraxx: you just said a guide told you to put it on /dev/sda7
[11:08] <ikonia> sorry, don't believe it
[11:08] <unitraxx> I found that guide afterwards :p
[11:08] <nnyk_> ikonia: xclip can do what i need...thanks
[11:08] <ikonia> unitraxx: how many hard disks do you have /
[11:08] <unitraxx> 1
[11:09] <unitraxx> Perhaps I should've picked the efi partition for the boot loader after all
[11:09] <ikonia> unitraxx: ok, so if it had installed to /dev/sda as you say, it would boot into grub
[11:09] <k1l> unitraxx: anyway. since you dont see a grub at startup your grub is somewhere but not where it belongs. so use that wiki page to make it right
[11:09] <unitraxx> doesn't it automatically look into the efi partition to boot ?
[11:09] <unitraxx> instead of mbr
[11:09] <Torocatala> oh, right BluesKaj, my bad
[11:10] <unitraxx> but I'll try boot-repair
[11:10] <BluesKaj> you mean mistake , Torocatala , nothing bad about it , we all make them
[11:10] <unitraxx> I guess it can't hurt :)
[11:11] <nnyk_> OerHeks: is it just me or it seems xclip doesnt work for 'top'...?
[11:11] <unitraxx> (For the record I have installed ubuntu numerous times on non-uefi systems.)
[11:12] <BluesKaj> Torocatala, in other words , I don't like that expression , it's not real english
[11:13] <Tigmag> Hello!
[11:13] <unitraxx> (Oh in my bios windows and ubuntu have different boot options, never seen that before)
[11:13] <Torocatala> BluesKaj, ok, thx, i'm not native english speaker
[11:14] <Tigmag> Could anyone help me to resolve a problem? It's about an external HDD, I can't mount/open it in the file manager, it writes "not authorized".
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> Tigmag  maybe change its !permissions
[11:15] <Tigmag> Where can I do that? Is there any chance to mount it from the terminal? And how.. I don't know about the commands.
[11:16] <ActionPa1snip> Tigmag: what file system does it use?
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> Tigmag  sudo mount /dev/blah /media
[11:16] <Tigmag> I think it's NTFS, and I'm on a Crunchbang linux.
[11:16] <ActionPa1snip> Tigmag: crunchbang isnt supported here
[11:17] <Tigmag> Ok, sorry.. Just didn't know where to ask. :)
[11:17] <ActionPa1snip> Tigmag:  #crunchbang
[11:17] <irec> nnyk: I haven't tried yet but try:  top -b -n1
[11:17] <Campfire> how do i get  error report term
[11:18] <Tigmag> Thank you. :)
[11:19] <OerHeks> nnyk_ i think you need the -n switch > http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man1/top.1.html
[11:19] <Campfire> webmaster have i had any complaints
[11:20] <prashant_123456> cannot find smbd file in /etc/init.d/ using ubuntu 13.04
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> Campfire  this is the ubuntu support channel, sure you're on the right spot?
[11:20] <g105b> I've got a crontab set to run every 10 minutes, but it seems that it is only sometimes running every 20 minutes ... I'm new to using crontab, where should I start looking to find out the problem?
[11:21] <Tigmag> What does it mean by "USB is not a block device"? (I tried 'sudo mount /dev/usb /media' Was I wrong?)
[11:21] <ikonia> prashant_123456: its not in there any more,
[11:21] <Campfire> my bad am i all good here
[11:21] <ikonia> Tigmag: usb is not a block device - you need a block device to mount a disk
[11:21] <Tigmag> Ok.
[11:21] <prashant_123456> ikonia, so where can i find it
[11:21] <cfhowlett> Campfire, that translation program is not aiding your clarity ...
[11:21] <ikonia> prashant_123456: what are you trying to do ?
[11:21] <prashant_123456> or i can say how to start and stop samba server
[11:22] <prashant_123456> ikonia,
[11:22] <k1l> Tigmag: for crunchbang support please ask in their supportchannel. maybe its a specific problem
[11:22] <ikonia> prashant_123456: who told you to do that ?
[11:22] <prashant_123456> ikonia, i just want to start and stop the samab server
[11:22] <ikonia> prashant_123456: yes, but who told you to run that command
[11:22] <k1l> !upstart | prashant_123456
[11:23] <k1l> prashant_123456: use the service command
[11:23] <prashant_123456> ikonia, on some websites
[11:23] <ikonia> prashant_123456: ok - so avoid that website, don't use it again, it's wrong/out of date
[11:23] <ikonia> prashant_123456: ubuntu uses upstart, so you should access stopping/starting services via the "sudo service" command.
[11:23] <prashant_123456> k1l,  service command can u show me ?
[11:24] <Campfire> i got a gnome error i,m trying to trouble shoot some brightness applet
[11:24] <prashant_123456> ikonia, full command please
[11:25] <Campfire> for term service whats it mean when there is a question mark next to a service
[11:25] <ikonia> prashant_123456: come on - you need to look up the service name, it's going to be either samba/smbd or something like that
[11:25] <Enemtee> i'm having problems using prop-drivers for AMD/ATI, cause they disable my soundcard's mic-port, anyone with a solution?
[11:25] <prashant_123456> ikonia, ok let me search for that
[11:26] <Campfire> i read that killing service in term only temp kills them am i correct
[11:27] <prashant_123456> nope no service like samba/smbd ikonia
[11:27] <ikonia> prashant_123456: how are you checking ?
[11:27] <prashant_123456> sudo find / -iname smbd ikonia
[11:28] <ikonia> prashant_123456: that's not a service - that's a file name
[11:28] <k1l> prashant_123456: http://askubuntu.com/questions/79078/how-to-restart-samba-server
[11:28] <prashant_123456> even top cant display it ikonia
[11:28] <ikonia> top ??
[11:28] <ikonia> why are you looking at top
[11:28] <fyksen> Hey! I just got a new laptop. Acer v7 582pg. I have just installed Ubuntu 13.04 on it. But the wireless doesnt work. The wireless card I got is: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 7260. Does anybody know how to get this working in Ubuntu?
[11:28] <prashant_123456> ikonia, for process
[11:28]  * cfhowlett ... that's no service.  (Imperial Death March tune starts)...
[11:29] <ikonia> prashant_123456: I didn't say look for processes or file names
[11:29] <prashant_123456> ikonia,  how to find sorry for the question
[11:29] <Pricey> ikonia: It isn't still "sudo service smbd stop"?
[11:29] <ikonia> Pricey: I don't know if it's smbd or samba, I don't have a machine to check
[11:29] <ikonia> hence asking prashant_123456 to check
[11:30] <prashant_123456> ikonia, ok
[11:30] <Pricey> ikonia: prashant_123456: http://askubuntu.com/questions/79078/how-to-restart-samba-server suggests it was/is "sudo service smbd stop"
[11:30] <k1l> i just showed a link to a askubuntu page which solves the problem :/
[11:30] <prashant_123456> Pricey, unrecognized command
[11:31] <ikonia> prashant_123456: please show me exactly what you are typing
[11:31] <k1l> prashant_123456: which ubuntu are you on?
[11:31] <prashant_123456> sudo service smbd stop ikonia
[11:31] <k1l> prashant_123456: which ubuntu exactly?
[11:31] <prashant_123456> k1l, ubuntu 13.04
[11:31] <ActionPa1snip> prashant_123456: you can TAB complete the service names
[11:31] <k1l> prashant_123456: please pastebin the command and the output
[11:32] <Pricey> ActionPa1snip: copying and pasting the above 'should' work.
[11:32] <prashant_123456> ActionPa1snip, ok let me check please
[11:32] <prashant_123456> ActionPa1snip, dont work
[11:32] <ActionPa1snip> Pricey: just an fyi ;)
[11:32] <prashant_123456> k1l, ok
[11:32] <ActionPa1snip> prashant_123456: is samba installed?
[11:32] <Enemtee> come again. prop-drivers for ati/amd, no mic-sound, what's up?
[11:33] <prashant_123456> ActionPa1snip, yes
[11:33] <ikonia> ActionPa1snip: service should still be "valid" just samba as a service would not be
[11:33] <prashant_123456> ActionPa1snip, wait please i will check
[11:33] <BluesKaj> prashant_123456, try sudo service smb start , withoutb the "d"
[11:34] <prashant_123456> BluesKaj, unrec service
[11:34] <BluesKaj> ok
[11:34] <k1l> prashant_123456: if you are not using ubuntu the suggestions here will not work.
[11:34] <ActionPa1snip> prashant_123456: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:34] <BluesKaj> prashant_123456, inatall  smbclient
[11:35] <Pricey> BluesKaj: Why?
[11:35] <BluesKaj> err install
[11:35] <prashant_123456> k1l, wait ActionPa1snip i have to reinstall samba
[11:35] <prashant_123456> BluesKaj, k1l yes sir ActionPa1snip
[11:36] <Campfire> ty for reminding me of cat command
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> Campfire  are you a comment generating bot?
[11:36] <ikonia> why do you have to re-install samba ?
[11:37] <Campfire> no md
[11:37] <cfhowlett> campfire verify your humanity ... who is the US president?
[11:37] <Campfire> am i comming up as cloned or such forth
[11:38] <Campfire> starts with a o
[11:38]  * cfhowlett ... now considers Campfire a bot/troll suspect
[11:38] <fyksen> Hey! I just got a new laptop. Acer v7 582pg. I have just installed Ubuntu 13.04 on it. But the wireless doesnt work. The wireless card I got is: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 7260. Does anybody know how to get this working in Ubuntu?
[11:39] <Campfire> was that a way to make me say a key word
[11:39] <ikonia> Campfire: do you need some help from the ubuntu support resources ?
[11:39] <Campfire> yes
[11:39] <prashant_123456> ActionPa1snip, BluesKaj k1l  yes now its working i think something was wrong with  samba package
[11:39] <ikonia> Campfire: ok, state your question please.
[11:40] <Campfire> does ufw conflict with other firewalls in the usc
[11:40] <ikonia> Campfire: yes, it will
[11:40] <Campfire> hmm
[11:40] <ikonia> Campfire: you should only run 1 firewall
[11:40] <Campfire> ok
[11:41] <Campfire> next for aplets is there a way to check em for errors
[11:41] <ikonia> Campfire: yes, when they crash they will give you an error
[11:42] <Campfire> ok how do i pin point whats making the error
[11:42] <ikonia> what error ?
[11:42] <Campfire> brightness applet
[11:42] <ikonia> that's not an error
[11:42] <Campfire> 120 or so when i boot up
[11:42] <ikonia> that's not an error
[11:42] <ikonia> explain the error
[11:43] <Campfire> brightness seems working but i have a first ubuntu screen  eroor
[11:44] <ikonia> what is the error, why do you think it's to do with the brightness applet
[11:44] <Campfire> with about 200 the same bightness aplet error msgs
[11:44] <ikonia> I'm going to stop helping now
[11:44] <ikonia> or trying to
[11:44] <ikonia> as you don't seem to be able to tell me the error,
[11:44] <ikonia> I've got other things to do
[11:44] <Campfire> ok sorry
[11:45] <prashant_123456> net status shares does not show anything
[11:45] <bicyus> Hi!
[11:45] <ikonia> prashant_123456: have you setup shares and started teh samba daemon ?
[11:46] <prashant_123456> ikonia, yes i have started the daemon and configured the /etc/samba/smb.conf file and at the end of the file i have set the shares
[11:46] <ikonia> prashant_123456: is the samba daemon running ?
[11:46] <jacta> Anyone into xubuntu and how to share a folder on network easiest way?
[11:46] <unitraxx> did boot-repair. now I can't boot in windows
[11:46] <prashant_123456> ikonia, yes
[11:46] <ikonia> prashant_123456: how do you know ?
[11:47] <prashant_123456> sudo service smbd start      job is already running
[11:47] <prashant_123456> ikonia,
[11:47] <BluesKaj> jacta, run sudo update-grub
[11:47] <ikonia> prashant_123456: how are you installing samba
[11:47] <ikonia> please give me the exact command
[11:47] <prashant_123456> ikonia, sudo apt-get install samba
[11:47] <BluesKaj> unitraxx, sorry , sudo update-grub
[11:48] <ikonia> prashant_123456: does ps -ef | grep smb show a samba process ?
[11:48] <BluesKaj> jacta, ignore my mistaen post
[11:48] <Campfire> one more question i think i need to move to lubuntu but all i found is server versions do you have a direct link for lubuntu for a \old  86x intel
[11:49] <prashant_123456> ikonia, yes i can see process there
[11:49] <ikonia> prashant_123456: ok, please pastebin your smb.conf
[11:49] <prashant_123456> ikonia, yes please
[11:50] <prashant_123456> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5877191
[11:51] <prashant_123456> ikonia,
[11:51] <varunendra> Campfire, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu#Torrent
[11:51] <unitraxx> BluesKaj: while the terminal echoed promising results (something like windows found, entry added) it still doesn't work :(
[11:51] <ikonia> prashant_123456: have you restarted it after making the changes to the smb.conf
[11:51] <unitraxx> oh nvm
[11:51] <unitraxx> I just have to take another option in the list
[11:52] <prashant_123456> ikonia, yes should i restart the machine ?
[11:52] <ikonia> prashant_123456: shouldn't need to if you've restarted the smb daemon
[11:52] <jacta> BluesKaj: Thanks anyways :P
[11:52] <prashant_123456> ikonia, yes i have stopped and then started both the daemons smbd and nmbd
[11:52] <inkjetunito> hello. did the samsung uefi bug workaround make its way into 12.04?
[11:52] <BluesKaj> unitraxx, do you mean grub menu doesn't load at boot?
[11:52] <unitraxx> it does now :)
[11:52] <prashant_123456> ikonia, is my smb.conf file ok ??
[11:52] <unitraxx> but there are multiple windows entries
[11:53] <Campfire> ty va
[11:53] <unitraxx> and only one works, with has something with efi in it's name
[11:53] <unitraxx> the windows 8 bootloader gives an error
[11:53] <ikonia> prashant_123456: just reading
[11:53] <prashant_123456> ok ikonia
[11:54] <ikonia> prashant_123456: looks enough to display a share
[11:54] <BluesKaj> unitraxx, ok , my knowledge on W8 and it's problems is nil , so I'll have pass on this
[11:54] <prashant_123456> ikonia, i have just entered the [test] at the end of the file
[11:54] <ikonia> prashant_123456: and restarted samba ?
[11:54] <prashant_123456> ikonia, yes after that i have restarted the samba
[11:55] <prashant_123456> ikonia, smbpasswd ??
[11:55] <ikonia> prashant_123456: ok, so net status shares should list that share
[11:55] <unitraxx> BluesKaj: now i booted back into ubuntu, and my fan decided to go loco
[11:55] <ikonia> prashant_123456: assuming you're not got anything like a firewall blocking the port on the local machine.
[11:55] <prashant_123456> no luck till ikonia net status shares do not show
[11:56] <ikonia> prashant_123456: can you connect to it with smbclient
[11:56] <vorlket> when backing up and restoring linux system, why is it not needed to archive /proc, /sys, and /?
[11:57] <prashant_123456> can you tell me the exact command of smbclient ikonia
[11:57] <ikonia> vorlket: because they are ram
[11:57] <prashant_123456> ikonia, smbclient -L a-desktop -u
[11:57] <prashant_123456> ikonia, i think
[11:57] <ikonia> prashant_123456: I don't have a linux box to hand to get the syntax, man smbclient should give you the info
[11:57] <BluesKaj> unitraxx,  one command you might try is , sudo os-prober , then run sudo update-grub again
[11:57] <unitraxx> and does
[11:58] <unitraxx> "pointer to TMDS table invalid" ring a bell to you ? :p
[11:58] <prashant_123456> ok ikonia
[11:58] <Campfire> ty varundra one more question is there a good program to deleat all hidin partitions and etc to make sure hdd really clean
[11:58] <vorlket> ikonia: so those files are not on hdd but created upon boot?
[11:58] <ikonia> vorlket: that's it, yes
[11:58] <ikonia> prashant_123456: I'll be back in 15 - need to make a phone call
[11:58] <vorlket> ikonia: i see thanks!
[11:59] <prashant_123456> ikonia, ok sir
[12:03] <dn5> I updated ruby to 1.9.3 but whenever I type ruby -v in terminal it list me as older (1.8.7) version
[12:03] <rose76> help me for "makefile" now install  ? help me !
[12:04] <unitraxx> the problem of "pointer to TMDS table invalid" still occurs, and nowhere can I find something about it
[12:04] <Campfire> ty for help and patience props to the ops snd friendly help cheers
[12:05] <rose76> help me for "makefile" now install  ? help me !
[12:05] <rose76> help me for "makefile" now install  ? help me !
[12:05] <DJones> !patience | rose76
[12:06] <papret>  in calc, how to count nonempty cells? how to count cells with a particular color background? or how to count noncolored cells?
[12:08] <achmode> has anyone ever had a problem where portable ubuntu remix disables their keyboard a little while after starting up?
[12:08] <dn5> I repaired my problem with ruby.
[12:11] <k1l> achmode: its seems outdated and is not supported in here. we have persisten live mode
[12:11] <vorlket> how do i do find the harddisk and boot partition numbers?:
[12:11] <vorlket> 4. Type "root (hd0,6)", or whatever your harddisk + boot partition numbers are (my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub).
[12:11] <vorlket> 5. Type "setup (hd0)", ot whatever your harddisk nr is.
[12:11] <achmode> k1l: can that run as application inside windows?
[12:13] <k1l> achmode: nope. that is not supported. use vbox or some other virtualisation
[12:14] <nb-ben_work> Resizing a partition with gparted is such a bad mistake...
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> nb-ben_work  you mean, ithout dataloss ?
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> without*
[12:15] <nb-ben_work> no I mean it's faster to create a new partition and copy the stuff to it
[12:15] <hdon> hi all :) i have an nvidia graphics card. how can i query my system to find which version of their proprietary (ugh) graphics driver i have?
[12:15] <papret> say i have hourly appointments and in my schedule each booked hour is colored (the color used indicates the type of appointment).... how do i count cells with background "yellow" for example? how do i count all colored cells? how do i count all noncolored (empty) cells?
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> papret  in what scheduler?
[12:16] <nb-ben_work> hdon, run nvidia-settings
[12:16] <nb-ben_work> ull probably be able to see there
[12:16] <hdon> nb-ben_work, thanks :)
[12:16] <ikonia> prashant_123456: I'm back
[12:16] <ikonia> prashant_123456: sorry about that, are you still struggling ?
[12:17] <prashant_123456> ikonia, i cann see the shares from windows clients
[12:17] <unitraxx> till what date is 13.04 supported? And will the update to the new LTS be convenient?
[12:17] <ikonia> prashant_123456: that's great
[12:17] <prashant_123456> ikonia, but cannot access from ubuntu
[12:17] <nb-ben_work> well, I guess I am stuck with no data now
[12:17] <ikonia> prashant_123456: I'm wondering if that's down to a lack of netbios names
[12:17] <nb-ben_work> for a while
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> unitraxx  13.04 support ends in january 2014
[12:18] <nb-ben_work> I'll go shopping
[12:18] <anonee> hi all, about Ubuntu One, is it normal that I unselected all the folders to sync during setup, but it still syncing all the hidden directories under /home/me ?
[12:18] <prashant_123456> ikonia, net status shares cannot display anyting still but can access from windows clients
[12:18] <unitraxx> MonkeyDust: thanks :) then I don't need to worry for a while
[12:18] <ikonia> prashant_123456: so the good thing is you know it's actually working
[12:18] <prashant_123456> ikonia, how to handle netbios or to configure
[12:18] <prashant_123456> ikonia, yes i am glad
[12:18] <ikonia> prashant_123456: I'm wondering it its a lack of netbios resolution on the linux host that's stopping the linux host resolving shares
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> unitraxx  http://ubuntuone.com/4ayHg2YG9X77HXtehm8Mts
[12:21] <CappyT> hi all, i have a little problem installing 13.04, can anyone help? It's this error: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX22y7aC4f8
[12:21] <unitraxx> oh damn, then I'll need to jump on 13.10 first :p
[12:22] <anonee> hi all, about Ubuntu One, is it normal that I unselected all the folders to sync during setup, but it still syncing all the hidden directories under /home/me ?
[12:23] <bgardner> papret: For your first question. you can count blanks with COUNTBLANK(), then count all and use the difference between the two to get the non-empty count.
[12:25] <papret> bgardner: thanks for the attention... what if a cell contains only color? how to count cells of a particular color, say "yellow"?
[12:25] <bgardner> papret: Checking on that one now, one moment.
[12:25] <prashant_123456> ikonia, so the solution
[12:26] <ikonia> prashant_123456: a good question, first thing I'd do is check your hostname has a valid entry in the host file, make sure your server is defined in the smb.conf
[12:26] <papret> bgardner: nice of you... i am here....
[12:27] <prashant_123456> can u check the smb.conf file ?
[12:27] <prashant_123456> ikonia,
[12:28] <anonee> hi all, about Ubuntu One, is it normal that I unselected all the folders to sync during setup, but it still syncing all the hidden directories under /home/me ?
[12:28] <ikonia> prashant_123456: look at the wins support option, the name resolve order,
[12:28] <ikonia> prashant_123456: this is assuming it is netbios resolution thats the problem, but I'm not sure of it to be honest
[12:30] <prashant_123456> something on the website says  use security = domain and workgroup = WORKGROUP ikonia
[12:30] <ikonia> prashant_123456: you're not using domain authentication ?
[12:30] <ikonia> prashant_123456: that won't stop shares being displayed or not
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> anonee  about 60 people in #ubuntuone
[12:31] <prashant_123456> ikonia, ok the solution is netbios
[12:31] <ikonia> prashant_123456: are you sure ?
[12:31] <anonee> MonkeyDust thank you I didn't even know that such a room exist, I didn't see it on their website.
[12:32] <prashant_123456> nope ikonia i am asking you sir
[12:32] <ikonia> prashant_123456: well, that's my guess at this moment, but I'm not %100 certain
[12:32] <ikonia> prashant_123456: you could try mounting one of the shares from your linux host, see if it works ok (it should) or if it gives any help in the error logs
[12:33] <prashant_123456> ikonia, ok so now i have to mount the shares right but how to please tell me the process please ikonia
[12:34] <ikonia> prashant_123456: it's just the standard mount command, but with -t cifs or smbfs (depending on version)
[12:34] <ikonia> prashant_123456: eg: mount -t cifs //servername/share /mnt
[12:34] <cyberwave> I had a boyfriend named ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[12:36] <bgardner> papret: Looks like there is no native way to count cells by color or style in Libreoffice.  If this is a must-have solution, you'll need to build some custom functions to get at the cell style.  See this old, but still relevant discussion: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=2762
[12:37] <prashant_123456> no help ikonia
[12:37] <ikonia> prashant_123456: what happened ?
[12:38] <prashant_123456> ikonia, wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.1.2/ ikonia
[12:38] <ikonia> prashant_123456: ok - so that is a BIG help
[12:38] <ikonia> prashant_123456: try with the fiel system smbfs
[12:38] <prashant_123456> ikonia, ok
[12:39] <prashant_123456> ikonia, unknown filesystem smbfs
[12:39] <ikonia> prashant_123456: ok, so install the cifs module
[12:39] <papret> bgardner: ok, thank you :)
[12:39] <prashant_123456> ikonia, sudo apt-get install cifs ??
[12:40] <ikonia> prashant_123456: you'll have to find the right package name
[12:40] <Quest> what kind of mouse pen is recommended? whats can be the price range? any company that would be nice? I use linux. any driver issues?
[12:41] <prashant_123456> ikonia, how to do that
[12:41] <ikonia> prashant_123456: have you got any experience in using ubuntu ?
[12:41] <prashant_123456> ikonia, cifs-utils
[12:41] <prashant_123456> ikonia, yes i have some
[12:42] <ikonia> prashant_123456: try that pacakage, I've not got an ubuntu machine here to check
[12:42] <ikonia> prashant_123456: ok, so searching for packages should be a basic function
[12:42] <prashant_123456> ikonia, yes
[12:42] <prashant_123456> ikonia, wait
[12:43] <benedikt> seems like ubuntu has started saving my ssh passphrase to disk rather than using ssh-agent. How do I change this behaviour?
[12:44] <ikonia> benedikt: why do you think it's saved to disk ?
[12:45] <benedikt> ikonia: i was only asked once, and it doesnt forget the passphrase when the X session dies.
[12:45] <ikonia> benedikt: if you reboot does it ask you again ?
[12:45] <benedikt> ikonia: nope
[12:45] <ikonia> benedikt: is it saved in gnome-keyring ?
[12:45] <ikonia> as that's not disk
[12:46] <benedikt> ikonia: if it survives a reboot, then it is on disk.
[12:46] <ikonia> benedikt: not how you are describing
[12:46] <ikonia> benedikt: is it in gnome-keyring ?
[12:46] <benedikt> ikonia: i'm using xfce, so it is in whatever keyring proram it employs
[12:46] <ikonia> I think that still uses gnome-keyring
[12:47] <ikonia> benedikt: it asks you to "save" this key into the keyring or not it's possible you missed it/checked it
[12:47] <benedikt> but I do challenge you to keep something in memory between reboots :)
[12:47] <ikonia> benedikt: if it's in the keyring it should be easy to remove
[12:47] <ikonia> benedikt: I didn't say it was in memory
[12:47] <bgardner> benedikt: Check ~/.gnome2/keyrings for the file login.keyring.  Move that and it should 'forget' your password.
[12:47] <prashant_123456> ikonia, after installing cifs-utils it asks for password but no luck still
[12:48] <benedikt> i want it to be in the keyring as I only want to type it once per X session, but I don't want it to surivive reboots. Memory, not disk.
[12:48] <ikonia> prashant_123456: look, you need to help me to help you - you can't just say "no luck" you need to give me information of what's happening
[12:48] <prashant_123456> ikonia, sorry for that
[12:48] <benedikt> bgardner: that's very bad advice for someone that is not techincally capable of understanding it, yet wants to remove the passphrase from disk.
[12:48] <ikonia> benedikt: it normally asks "this session" or "perminantly" or words to that effect
[12:48] <Mattix> Hello
[12:48] <benedikt> ikonia: ah, thats probably what I missed
[12:48] <Mattix> is there any way to use the iPhone 5 from Ubuntu?
[12:49] <prashant_123456> ikonia, could not resolve address
[12:49] <Xotix> hi
[12:49] <ikonia> prashant_123456: ok, could not resolve address......so that's telling us it's not able to see the server using that address
[12:49] <ikonia> prashant_123456: what command exactly did youd o
[12:49] <ikonia> do
[12:49] <benedikt> ikonia: should i make it forget the key via some GUI or just remove the keyring file like bgardner suggested?
[12:49] <ikonia> Mattix: iphone/linux - moving target, I wouldn't bother
[12:50] <ikonia> benedikt: I'd try the gui, but I can't remember the gui's launch command
[12:50] <ikonia> is it gnome-keyring ?
[12:50] <benedikt> ikonia: google probably knows it
[12:50] <Xotix> Need to set permissions using chmod +a but it seems that it isn't available for me. Using ubuntu on virtual box. how can i install it?
[12:50] <x0077BE> Hey guys, do you know what it means when traceroute just gives a bunch of stars?
[12:50] <x0077BE> Like ****?
[12:50] <prashant_123456> ikonia, sudo mount -t cifs //a-desktop/ /mnt
[12:50] <x0077BE> I'm trying to set up a VPN and I can't tell if I'm getting blocked because of ports or what.
[12:50] <prashant_123456> ikonia, i tried ip address instead
[12:50] <ikonia> x0077BE: it means the router is not broadbasting the address
[12:50] <Mattix> ikonia, what do you mean?
[12:50] <ikonia> prashant_123456: ok, what happens when you try the IP
[12:51] <ikonia> x0077BE: traceroute doesn't test ports, so that's not going to help
[12:51] <Xotix> pascal
[12:51] <Mattix> you mean none here has/use an iPhone? :P
[12:51] <x0077BE> ikonia: I can specify a port.
[12:51] <x0077BE> traceroute ip -p 443 or whatever.
[12:51] <ikonia> x0077BE: not with traceroute
[12:51] <ikonia> x0077BE: shouldn't be using that for a test
[12:51] <prashant_123456> ikonia, retrying with upper case share name, mount error (6) no such device or address
[12:51] <x0077BE> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/traceroute-nanog.genuine.8.html
[12:52] <x0077BE> ikonia: 4th option.
[12:52] <ikonia> prashant_123456: please answer the question - what happens with you use the IP
[12:52] <x0077BE> What would you suggest anyway?
[12:52] <ikonia> x0077BE: I'm aware of the -p option, but it's not a test
[12:52] <ikonia> x0077BE: its used for UDP - not tcp
[12:52] <prashant_123456> ikonia when i try ip address :- retrying with upper case share name, mount error (6) no such device or address
[12:53] <robb4n> Hi, Im trying to make a Windows 7 USB from a .iso in latest Ubuntu. But when It tries to install GRUB bootloader it fails, I have tried dd, unetbootin, winusb and stil failing.. And I have a fresh install of latest ubuntu, anyone knows how to solve this?
[12:53] <benedikt> Mattix: the iphone is a propiatary and closed platform. I don't think many free software enthusiasts will use it :)
[12:53] <ikonia> prashant_123456: is that the right IP address ?
[12:53] <Mattix> alllright. second day of use, I'm selling it -.-
[12:53] <prashant_123456> ikonia, yes i am checking the server ip address is 192.168.1.2
[12:54] <x0077BE> ikonia: What is the proper diagnostic tool for testing port connectivity?
[12:54] <k1l> robb4n: do you want a ubuntu-usb or a windows-usb?
[12:54] <prashant_123456> ikonia, i can ping
[12:54] <ikonia> x0077BE there are many ways, a simple direct test is to telnet t the port on the remote server
[12:54] <ikonia> prashant_123456: ok, are you running a firewall ?
[12:54] <x0077BE> K
[12:54] <benedikt> Mattix: i'm not hating, just explaining why you might find a lack of support and interest for your phone in the Linux world
[12:54] <robb4n> k1l: I want a windows-usb
[12:54] <prashant_123456> i can ssh to server and not using firewall ikonia
[12:55] <ikonia> prashant_123456: are you %100 sure you don't have a firewall runing ?
[12:55] <ikonia> running
[12:55] <k1l> robb4n: then see the windows support how to do that.
[12:55] <Rocketeer> robb4n have you tried the "Startup Disk Creator" built into Ubuntu?
[12:55] <Xotix> how can i chmod +a get working on ubuntu or how can i "translate" it into something ubuntu understands?
[12:55] <ikonia> Xotix: that's the wrong syntax
[12:55] <k1l> Rocketeer: that doesnt work for windows.
[12:56] <robb4n> k1l: I have done this before, many times from Linux... but I havent seen this problem before, and with all the other tools.. something is wierd :/
[12:56] <robb4n> Rocketeer: same problem there :/
[12:56] <robb4n> and i have tried like 4 diffrent USB sticks aswell
[12:56] <prashant_123456> ikonia, i have installed firewall but not using it and it id disabled
[12:56] <ikonia> prashant_123456: how are you checking that ?
[12:57] <k1l> !away > stux|away|away
[12:57] <prashant_123456> ikonia, i have gui firewall and it says it is disabled
[12:57] <ikonia> prashant_123456: which gui ?
[12:57] <prashant_123456> gufw firewal ikonia
[12:58] <ikonia> prashant_123456: is there an entry in your host file for your server ip ?
[12:58] <prashant_123456> how to check ikonia
[12:58] <Xotix> ikonia my book tells me I should do sudo chmod +a "www-data allow delete,write,append,file_inherit,directory_inherit" cache logs but i get invalid +a mode. It's a mac thing somehow and I don't know how i can achieve the same on ubuntu.
[12:59] <robb4n> k1l: Why would I even see windows support how to do this? when it seems it doesnt have anything to do with windows, since its stil fails on any linux.iso dist I have tried to make
[12:59] <ikonia> prashant_123456: look in /etc/hosts - it's the first thing I asked you to check
[12:59] <ikonia> Koma: your book is wrong
[12:59] <ikonia> Xotix: your book is wrong
[12:59] <robb4n> k1l: A fresh install of Ubuntu, and it fails to make a bootable USB
[12:59] <prashant_123456> ikonia, no entry in hosts
[12:59] <ikonia> prashant_123456: ok, make one
[13:00] <Xotix> ikonia so can you correct it? mac has +a http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man1/chmod.1.html
[13:00] <k1l> robb4n: its a different task to make a linux-usb-system than a windows-usb-system
[13:00] <columb> I'm about to buy SSD. What kind of system optimisation  I could make to get better performance &  SSD lifetime?
[13:00] <ikonia> Xotix: why are you reading apple docs ?
[13:00] <ikonia> Xotix: you are you using mac OSX ?
[13:00] <robb4n> k1l: Yeah ofc, but now it stil fails on making a mageia, ubuntu usb bootable aswell
[13:01] <k1l> columb: use the discard function is fstab and use ext4. no swap needed if you have enough ram and dont want to use suspend
[13:01] <prashant_123456> ikonia, yes made it
[13:01] <Xotix> ikonia was googling for ubuntu and now i know it's a mac thing, i read it to know what it does to get an idea how to do it in ubuntu but I still don't know. host win7 guest ubuntu
[13:01] <ikonia> Xotix: why are you just not reading the ubuntu docs ?
[13:01] <ikonia> Xotix: why read mac docs to learn how to do something in ubuntu, makes no sense
[13:01] <columb> k1l, but what if I do want to use suspend? Swap is still needed?
[13:04] <Xotix> ikonia manpage of chmod doesn't list +a: of course it doesn't make sense, but since +a is a mac thing and the book refers to it I wanted to know what it does. So I'm looking for the equivalent thing for it in ubuntu.
[13:04] <Koma> ikonia:  never written a book but if I will I'll send you a copy
[13:04] <k1l> columb: in case of swap to disk, yes
[13:04] <ikonia> Xotix: what do you want to actually do
[13:04] <ikonia> Koma: thanks
[13:08] <berryciderspider> People which ubuntu flavoured distro would you recommend?
[13:08] <prashant_123456> smbclient -L //A-DESKTOP/test -U root now shows the shares on ubuntu server
[13:08] <Pricey> !best
[13:08] <ikonia> berryciderspider: it's going to come down to personal perference, try it
[13:08] <ActionPa1snip> berryciderspider: Xubuntu 12.04 for new users disliking Unity, Or Ubuntu 12.04 if you like it
[13:08] <ikonia> prashant_123456: ok, that's better
[13:09] <prashant_123456> ikonia, yes
[13:10] <vladino> hi which bittorrent client is best ?
[13:10] <Pici> !best | vladino
[13:10] <Xotix> ikonia I just found the solution. Needed to use setfacl. Thanks
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> vladino  deluge and transmission are popular
[13:11] <vladino> thanks
[13:14] <jehangir> im having serious error beeps .. is there a command that does a full system and hardware scan coz when i boot the computer it straight goes to bios and beeps
[13:15] <jehangir> how do i check what partition table i have?
[13:16] <ActionPa1snip> jehangir: how is that an Ubuntu issue if Ubuntu neverloads?
[13:16] <k1l> jehangir: the bios beep codes refer to errors. see in the manual what is wrong
[13:16] <ActionPa1snip> jehangir: I suggest you ask ni ##hardware the beeps are the PC telling you something is wrong
[13:17] <jehangir> ActionPa1snip: well the pc was running vista and dying ... i installed ubuntu and asked to replace windows ..now it beeps at boot up
[13:18] <ActionPa1snip> jehangir: the hardware guys will be able to tell you what the beeps mean
[13:20] <jehangir> ActionPa1snip: im in that room i asked the question
[13:22] <jehangir> ActionPa1snip: you heard of any laptops that may have hardware incomapibility with ubuntu
[13:22] <rantic> jehangir: Yes .... a lot of.
[13:22] <jehangir> shit !@#$
[13:22] <k1l> jehangir: first make sure the hardware works
[13:22] <rantic> jehangir: It's usually newer laptops though ... and support for those comes within 6-12 months.
[13:23] <k1l> jehangir: because no one wants to dig for a non existing problem when its clearly a hardware failure
[13:23] <prashant_123456> ikonia, i can now access shares need to put guest ok = yes in smb.conf file
[13:23] <prashant_123456> ikonia, thanks for the kind help i am used to arch and gentoo
[13:24] <jnhghy> how can I check what files a program/user is using while it's running a script?
[13:24] <d__> Hello everyone~I need help!
[13:24] <rantic> jehangir: What laptop doy ou own?
[13:24] <rantic> d__: Good morning, what's up/
[13:25] <Gilligan94> the ubuntu PPAs giving anyone else a 503 error?
[13:25] <jehangir> rantic: compaq cq 60-209 TU
[13:25] <jehangir> rantic: had vista on it sucked so bad i had to switch to ubuntu
[13:25] <k1l> Gilligan94: maybe the PPAs are down
[13:25] <nilsec> Each time I connect a set of headphones, I have to go to the audio settings and tell Ubuntu to use those as the speakers. Is there any way to make it default such that any time I connect a new audio device it switches to that automatically?
[13:26] <d__> I'm surface pro installed Ubuntu 13.04~~~No network connection
[13:26] <Gilligan94> k1l: seems like it, do you mind running a sudo apt-get update and see if it's not just me
[13:26] <nilsec> Gilligan94, I just ran apt-get update and it worked fine.
[13:26] <d__> Please help me
[13:26] <Gilligan94> nilsec: hmm, might switch server
[13:27] <k1l> Gilligan94: maybe that specific PPAs is down. like not anymore available
[13:27] <d__> 有人会中文吗?
[13:28] <Gilligan94> k1l: it's just the ubuntu PPAs for me
[13:28] <jehangir> d__: ??
[13:28] <k1l> !details | d__
[13:28] <k1l> !cn | d__
[13:29] <Gilligan94> specifically precise-backports is reporting the 503
[13:30] <nilsec> In Ubuntu 13.04, when I connect a pair of headphones to my Thinkpad T430 (or any other device I've used running Ubuntu), Ubuntu continues to use the same audio output it was before I connected them. I expected Ubuntu to switch to the new audio output automatically. How can I ensure that it does so in the future?
[13:31] <Gilligan94> nilsec: I have this same issue with all audio devices, seems to be a running issue
[13:31] <Gilligan94> nilsec: might be worth checking if a bug report has been filed
[13:34] <d__>  I will not English, I'm sorry.
[13:34] <d__> I installed the ubuntu 13.04 on surface pro
[13:34] <d__> After entering the desktop, shows that there are three wireless network connection, but none of them available, unable to connect to the network.
[13:34] <d__> I have modified the network configuration file, now starts the system prompt: waiting up to 60 more seconds for netword configuration
[13:34] <d__> Unable to enter the desktop, you need to help. I will not English, I'm sorry.
[13:34] <FloodBot1> d__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:37] <Gilligan94> d__: please dont use eneter as punctuation. what do you meen it shows wireless networks but they are unavailable? how are they unavailable?
[13:38] <Bower^Work> i've been experiencing some incredible slowdowns on my ubuntu partition. i'm on the verge of just formatting it. there's seemingly no cause...i'll come back to my idle PC and finding half of the programs unresponsive and generally sluggish. is there any way to debug this issue?
[13:39] <d__> Gilligan94 Unable to enter the desktop now,thank you~
[13:41] <luminous> hello! I'm trying to have update-alternatives see my ruby1.9.3 as the selected ruby interpreter.. but update-alternatives only lists 1.9.1 out of the 1.9 series. I have _not_ installed 1.9.1, but 1.9.3 pulls in ruby1.9.1-full. what should I be doing to ensure ruby apps are using 1.9.3?
[13:43] <saiarcot895> luminous: based on "apt-cache policy ruby1.9.1", ruby1.9.1 is 1.9.3
[13:44] <luminous> I'm not sure I follow
[13:44] <luminous> my app yells at me: Gem::InstallError: nokogiri requires Ruby version >= 1.9.2.
[13:44] <luminous> saiarcot895: and update-alternatives says: * 2            /usr/bin/ruby1.9.1   10        manual mode
[13:45] <guest5426> is there a trick to getting clang working on ubuntu 13.04 i386? currently it can't find system headers like iostream, stdio.h, etc
[13:45] <Bower^Work> i've been experiencing some incredible slowdowns on my ubuntu partition. i'm on the verge of just formatting it. there's seemingly no cause...i'll come back to my idle PC and finding half of the programs unresponsive and generally sluggish. is there any way to debug this issue?
[13:45] <Scoding> Hello, could anyone help me setup a wireless usb adapter on my ubuntu? I'm running in circles for last 2 days
[13:45] <geek2076> allo
[13:46] <Bower^Work> if i don't get this sorted i'll have to do development on a windows box :(
 how much RAM on the system and swap size
[13:46] <jehangir> how do i run a system hardware scan?
 you can try hdparm to tune the hdd performance
[13:46] <Bower^Work> studious, plenty for ubuntu. it's a software issue
[13:46] <luminous> Bower^Work: how are you so sure?
[13:47] <luminous> justify that claim
[13:47] <Bower^Work> reminds me of a network hanging
[13:47] <Bower^Work> i jhave a slower PC at home that handles it fine
[13:47] <Bower^Work> not even remotely this bad
[13:47] <luminous> but this is the world of computers, so your memory is not so important when debugging something that vague
[13:47] <Bower^Work> 4gb..
[13:48] <Gilligan94> Bower^Work: it doesn't sound like a software issue, you might just have incompatible hardware that needs extra drivers. try a fresh install first though
[13:48] <luminous> Gilligan94: reinstall is your first suggestion??
[13:48] <luminous> wow.
[13:48] <Bower^Work> Gilligan94, i was worried that was the only solution. that's not an option
[13:48] <Bower^Work> i've spent enough time getting this working
[13:48] <luminous> Gilligan94: this isn't windows
 recompile the kernel to match the hardware on the system
[13:48] <Bower^Work> how?
[13:48] <Gilligan94> luminous: I don't use any windows
[13:48] <luminous> why don't you do more debugging to be more sure of what the problem is??
[13:49] <saiarcot895> luminous: /usr/bin/ruby1.9.1 is technically version 1.9.3
[13:49] <Bower^Work> my initial question asked how to debug this
[13:49] <rosco_y> Is Gnustep a window manager or something else?
[13:49] <Bower^Work> i have windows installed on this machine and it works fine
[13:49] <luminous> saiarcot895: ok, so why does bundler yell at me?
[13:50] <luminous> Bower^Work: windows "working" fine doesn't mean anything - windows will "work" with bad memory
[13:50] <saiarcot895> luminous: not sure, but there's a separate ruby package (version 4.9)
[13:50] <luminous> until you hit the right cycle..
[13:50] <luminous> saiarcot895: my app yells at me: Gem::InstallError: nokogiri requires Ruby version >= 1.9.2
[13:50] <Bower^Work> luminous, i find it hard to believe ubuntu is quite that  bad
[13:51] <luminous> Bower^Work: if misconfigured, yea, or missing soemthing it needs, or having bad hardware, yea
[13:51] <Bower^Work> :(
[13:51] <luminous> better than windows
[13:51] <Bower^Work> i just installed from disc and installed updates
[13:51] <bgardner> Bower^Work: Have you tried memtest yet?
[13:51] <martinrame> Hi, since last week I cannot print anymore on an Ricoh Aficio 220 (network print). I'm using 12.04 64bits. The message i get is "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed". How can I debug the problem?.
[13:51] <luminous> windows simply gives you the illusion of working
[13:51] <rosco_y> I love ubuntu, I'm happy to say
[13:51] <saiarcot895> luminous: what distro are you on?
[13:51] <Bower^Work> i do love ubuntu, just hate it when my programs hang :(
[13:51] <Gilligan94> luminous: windows doesn't really work with any memory, they still have that bug in their kernel
[13:51] <luminous> Bower^Work: but really, you need to debug this more to be able to resolve it
[13:52] <Bower^Work> luminous, i'm all ears
[13:52] <luminous> saiarcot895: 12.04 LTS
[13:52] <Bower^Work> luminous, what do you recommend
[13:52] <Bower^Work> luminous, keeping in mind i'm at work and don't have hours to spend on this
[13:52] <luminous> Bower^Work: run htop and monitor what is going on, check logs, dmesg tell you anything?
[13:52] <luminous> Bower^Work: run memtest
[13:53] <Bower^Work> thanks luminous
[13:53] <luminous> Bower^Work: confirm what swap usage is like
[13:54] <flares> hello
[13:54] <saiarcot895> luminous: can you run "apt-cache policy ruby1.8" and see if that is installed?
[13:54] <luminous> saiarcot895: it is installed, I was hoping to leave it be until I had that app working on 1.9
[13:55] <geek2076> jaimerai savoir quelle image de ubuntu touch pour installer sur galaxy tab 2 10.1 p5113.   jai reussi sur mon nexus et un gars la installer sur sa tablette p5113
[13:55] <luminous> saiarcot895: I can remove it if I really have to
[13:55] <luminous> infact, I think I tried at one point
[13:55] <geek2076> merci
[13:55] <bgardner> !fr | geek2076
[13:55] <flares> i've installed ubuntu 13 and i added it to the domain when i enter with any user i try to set it as an administrator but i cant despite i unblock it using the pass admin
[13:55] <flares> some help plz ?
[13:55] <martinrame> Since last week I cannot print anymore on an Ricoh Aficio 220 (network print). I'm using 12.04 64bits. The message i get is "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed". How can I debug the problem?.
[13:56] <saiarcot895> luminous: my guess was that it's seeing the wrong ruby version
[13:56] <saiarcot895> luminous: can you run "update-alternatives --display ruby" and see if it prints out 1.9.1 or 1.8.7?
[13:57] <luminous> well, I just removed 1.8
[13:57] <luminous> :P
[13:57] <Bower^Work> luminous, my swap is 255/255mb. doesn't sound good?
[13:57] <saiarcot895> luminous: at least you had no other dependencies on the old one :)
[13:58] <luminous> Bower^Work: that is why your system is going to a crawl
[13:58] <Bower^Work> i wonder why it's so low
[13:58] <luminous> saiarcot895: so I need rubygems for 1.9, is rubygems1.1 (which mentions 1.9.1) actually 1.9.3
[13:58] <luminous> Bower^Work: I would wonder why so much oof it is in use
[13:58] <luminous> not why you have so little of it
[13:59] <luminous> your system should not be swapping
[13:59] <luminous> saiarcot895: what's with 1.9.1 == 1.9.3? or the other way around
[13:59] <flaviocc> \list
[13:59] <flaviocc> \exit
[13:59] <luminous> heh
[13:59] <saiarcot895> luminous: while the package name says 1.9.1, the actual binary is version 1.9.3
[14:00] <saiarcot895> flaviocc: its //exit
[14:00] <luminous> saiarcot895: hah. only in ubuntu :p
[14:00] <saiarcot895> luminous: well, that style is in debian too
[14:00] <luminous> saiarcot895: ok, so only in linux.
[14:01] <luminous> :P
[14:01] <luminous> apologies, I come from another planet.
[14:01] <Bower^Work> luminous, http://s23.postimg.org/bgjbu86nv/htop.png - anything look unusual?
[14:01] <saiarcot895> luminous: my guess is that since ruby 1.8 and ruby 1.9 were incompatible, they had to make separate packages for the two, and at the time of creation, ruby was 1.9.1
[14:01] <luminous> saiarcot895: sure, 1.9.1 has been noted has having terrible bugs, hence .2 and .3 releases
[14:01] <luminous> so it's fundamentally wrong to bring that confusion to the user
[14:02] <luminous> especially with a trick like package naming
[14:02] <luminous> but alas, we digress
[14:02]  * luminous tests bundler
[14:03] <luminous> saiarcot895: bah, do I need to reopen the shell or somethign? -bash: /usr/local/bin/bundle: /usr/bin/ruby1.8: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[14:03] <luminous> update alternatives shows 1.9.1 correctly
[14:04] <saiarcot895> luminous: wait, did you install bundler through "sudo apt-get install bundler"?
[14:04] <luminous> saiarcot895: I don't remember
[14:04] <luminous> but I'll look into it
[14:05] <luminous> doesn't look like it
[14:05] <saiarcot895> luminous: that would explain the /usr/local/bin; that directory is for binaries you personally installed (outside of apt/dpkg)
[14:05] <luminous> saiarcot895: probably through gems, I guess I need to reinstall
[14:06] <luminous> there we go
[14:06] <luminous> that looks better
[14:06] <AgRo> hi
[14:06] <saiarcot895> luminous: that's the problem
[14:06] <luminous> yes, gem install bundler helped
[14:07] <saiarcot895> luminous: rubygems (in the ubuntu repo) depends on ruby1.8
[14:07] <luminous> and bundler is now reinstalling all my app's deps
[14:07] <luminous> saiarcot895: yea, I have rubygems1.9.1
[14:07] <saiarcot895> luminous: ah, ok
[14:07] <luminous> sweet, it has not errored out where it did before :D
[14:07] <luminous> nokogiri wanted 1.9.2+
[14:09] <luminous> saiarcot895: thanks for the assistance here!
[14:09] <luminous> greatly appreciated
[14:09] <saiarcot895> luminous: you're welcome
[14:09] <luminous> Bower^Work: overall, you need to find out why your system is swapping
[14:09] <luminous> I can't really give better advice than that
[14:09] <luminous> inspecting the details (which processes are consuming too much mem/swap) in htop should helpo
[14:12] <Almindor> is there a way to start an upstart job after an init.d job?
[14:12] <Almindor> without converting the init.d one first
[14:13] <saiarcot895> Bower^Work: it seems firefox is taking up 60% of your memory, and java is taking up 34%
[14:13] <saiarcot895> Bower^Work: those are the two biggest memory hogs there, so I would start with those
[14:14] <ikonia> Almindor: nothing is launched as a system V job anymore
[14:16] <Almindor> ikonia: of course there are, init.d is still populated with quite a lot of things not present in /etc/init/
[14:16] <ikonia> that doesn't mean it's run
[14:16] <Plater> anyone good knowledge of reaver? please pm me, i got some issue
[14:16] <ikonia> Almindor: system V is not installed as an init system
[14:16] <ikonia> Plater: is this anything to do with ubuntu ?
[14:16] <saiarcot895> Bower^Work: you have 5 separate firefox windows open, with (from what I can tell about the memory usage) a lot of tabs open in each one of them
[14:16] <Almindor> on 12.04?
[14:16] <ikonia> Almindor: yes, system V init is not installed
[14:17] <Almindor> ikonia: so my rcX dirs and init.d are there just for fun and postgresql starts itself by magic?
[14:17] <ikonia> Almindor: no, it's launched by upstart
[14:18] <Almindor> ikonia: so "start on started postgresql" should work right?
[14:18] <ikonia> Almindor: depends, depends what's triggering it
[14:18] <Almindor> psql is in rc3.d
[14:18] <ikonia> that means nothing
[14:19] <ikonia> from memory there is an upstart job at the end that calls all legacy system V init jobs,
[14:19] <ikonia> but you'll need to check that
[14:19] <arteiro> any, has problem to install pci wireless realtek 8190 ?
[14:19] <saiarcot895> Almindor: "sudo service start postgresql" might start postgresql
[14:19] <ikonia> saiarcot895: he doesn't want to start it
[14:19] <Almindor> yeah rc.conf
[14:19] <ikonia> he's trying to trigger a job from it's init in upstart
[14:19] <saiarcot895> ikonia: ah, ok
[14:19] <Almindor> rc.conf runs rc on runlevels
[14:20] <Almindor> so psql is actually started by rc
[14:20] <ikonia> there we go, so it does cycle through the legacy run levels
[14:20] <ikonia> but it's called by upstart
[14:20] <Almindor> I guess upstart has no knowledge of individual rc jobs tho
[14:20] <ikonia> I would agree o that
[14:20] <ikonia> on
[14:20] <Almindor> damnit
[14:20] <arteiro> I need help, has problem to install pci wireless realtek 8190 ?
[14:23] <servercbe> Hi, Good morning!  ... I CANT make my pc start from network... and I get this message:           RPL-ROM-FFC     and never get and IP
[14:23] <saiarcot895> arteiro: you might have to use Windows drivers
[14:23] <saiarcot895> arteiro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/53136/realtek-8190-wireless-doesnt-work
[14:23] <servercbe> RPL-ROM-FFC     and never get an IP
[14:23] <servercbe> any help please
[14:24] <servercbe> RPL-ROM-FFC     never get an IP    please help!
[14:24] <ikonia> servercbe: stop repeating
[14:25] <ikonia> people won't reward people with help for just blindly spamming the channel
[14:25] <servercbe> sorry... I it getting me crazy
[14:25] <Pici> servercbe: It sounds like you're asking about WOL via your BIOS, how is this an Ubuntu problem?
[14:27] <arteiro> saiarcot895,  thanks.
[14:28] <zipper> What does reckon mean in networking?
[14:29] <Pici> zipper: In what context?
[14:30] <arteiro> saiarcot895, this way worked, however ndiswrapper impossible I use the NIC mode RFMON
[14:30] <zipper> Pici in nmap -sL does a passive reckon
[14:31] <Pici> zipper: I don't see that in any of the nmap manpages.
[14:34] <zipper> Pici It might not be but what it does is a DNS resolution. That is: that it doesn't send packets directly to the IP address. It goes through the DNS server and asks it for all the hosts name.
[14:34] <p0wn3d> Can anyone explain the difference between audit and tripwire/AIDE?
[14:34] <zipper> Pici anyway I've heard that word too many times just tell me what you know.
[14:36] <Pici> zipper: If you mean 'recon', thats short for reconnaissance. 'reckon' doesn't mean anything in that context.
[14:37] <zipper> Pici Okay I just heard it I didn't read it. What do you mean by recon? Please don't tell me to google it. English isn't my best language.
[14:39] <Pici> zipper: its not really a computer question. It just a fancy word for survey
[14:39] <rahules> hi, is there a command by which i can see what all drivers i can use for my wifi? It's now using the wl driver.
[14:39] <geek2076> jaimerai savoir quelle image de ubuntu touch sur galaxy tab 2 10.1 p5113
[14:39] <Pici> !fr | geek2076
[14:40] <zipper> Pici nice! So when -sL is called a passive recon he meant to mean like a passive scan because it's the DNS server doing the work?
[14:41] <wasanzy> hello guys, am having head pain installing ubuntu aside win 8. after installing win8, ubuntu is not seeing the partitions I created so is trying to use the entire disk. am using hp envy dv6
[14:41] <zipper> Pici btw hope you'll use the newly learnt info. I'm not sure where to apply it just yet but I will.
[14:42] <geek2076> jaimerai savoir quelle image de ubuntu touch sur galaxy tab 2 10.1 p5113
[14:42] <geek2076> installer
[14:43] <geek2076> jaimerai savoir quelle image de ubuntu touch  a installer sur galaxy tab 2 10.1 p5113
[14:43] <musa> how do i know if i have been hacked or been infected by viruses. I am using Ubuntu 13.04 32bit
[14:43] <geek2076> je lai fait sur nexus avec succes
[14:43] <musa> i have been getting banned from Drupal.org
[14:44] <musa> where do I ask questions? and to whom?
[14:44] <ikonia> not here
[14:44] <geek2076> quelquun peut me repondre svp
[14:44] <auronandace> !fr | geek2076
[14:46] <musa> exit
[14:46] <musa> quit
[14:48] <rosco_y> Does anyone have anything to say about installing GNUstep on Ubuntu?
[14:49] <auronandace> !info gnustep | rosco_y
[14:50] <rosco_y> auronandace: ty--do you know, if I install it, would I be able to switch between that and gnome by selecting the sesssion type at the login prompt?
[14:51] <auronandace> rosco_y: i'd assume so
[14:51] <rosco_y> auronandace: thank you :)
[15:00] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm having issues with the time command. Below is the command I'm trying to do, without the quotes. I'm getting an error about --verbose not being a command.
[15:00] <Seven_Six_Two> "time --append --verbose -o time-rsync.txt sudo rsync -zrlpv --size-only --inplace /home/username/backupdir/ /media/external133/"
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> Seven_Six_Two  what is it supposed to do?
[15:01] <Seven_Six_Two> MonkeyDust, do an rsync, and print to file how long the process took.
[15:02] <Seven_Six_Two> the rsync works on its own, it's the time command that is giving me trouble. I've read the man page twice, and I don't see what's wrong.
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> Seven_Six_Two  better ask in the channel #bash
[15:03] <Seven_Six_Two> MonkeyDust, time isn't a builtin
[15:03] <Christi123> hi does anyone know how to install virtualenv and where should we install it
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> Seven_Six_Two  it is
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> Seven_Six_Two  what's the output of     cat /etc/issue ?
[15:04] <nicofs> Does anyone of you know about an open source software for an EMS control room to schedule units (current location, task, target location, ...)?
[15:05] <Seven_Six_Two> MonkeyDust, http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Bash-Builtins.html
[15:05] <Seven_Six_Two> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> Seven_Six_Two  i never installed time and it is there
[15:05] <Seven_Six_Two> MonkeyDust, it's part of the default install.
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> Seven_Six_Two  but you just said it isnt
[15:06] <Seven_Six_Two> MonkeyDust, no, I said it isn't a bash builtin command.
[15:06] <Pici> Seven_Six_Two: If you're using bash, you might want to take a look at this part of the time manpage: "Users of the bash shell need to use an explicit path in order to run the external time command and not the shell builtin variant."
[15:08] <Pici> Seven_Six_Two, MonkeyDust: It *is* a shell builtin, but it is also an executable. So call it explictily with /usr/bin/time so that it supports those options.
[15:08] <Seven_Six_Two> Pici, thank you very much! Why wouldn't gnu list it as builtin then? I skipped *blush* the examples part...
[15:09] <hikenboot> can somone point me to quantal directions for changing grub timeout for when it loads
[15:10] <cipherboy> hikenboot, Check /etc/default/grub; the option you want is there. After modifying, run sudo update-grub
[15:10] <Pici> Seven_Six_Two: I don't know. I thought that was weird too.
[15:11] <Seven_Six_Two> Pici, the explicit path worked perfectly. thanks again.
[15:12] <Seven_Six_Two> I use zsh on every box but that machine, so I might have missed it anyhow.
[15:12] <leo-the-manic> I'm using Kubuntu, it informed me a new version was released. I went to click it to see what version it was and it simply started updating. Now it says it's got 3.5 hours left, there's no cancel button, and I can't install anything else while updating
[15:12] <leo-the-manic> Is it safe to force close this upgrade thing?
[15:12] <blazemore> leo-the-manic: No
[15:13] <Seven_Six_Two> leo-the-manic, is it downloading or installing presently?
[15:13] <leo-the-manic> INstalling
[15:13] <blazemore> leo-the-manic: It told you before the upgrade that you shouldn't do anything while it's updating, and it could take a long time
[15:13] <blazemore> leo-the-manic: And you said OK
[15:13] <Seven_Six_Two> leo-the-manic, then no. don't stop it. and don't fiddle with it if you can help it. go have tea.
[15:14] <leo-the-manic> blazemore: I'm pretty sure I clicked the button that next to "A new version is available" and it just started going
[15:14] <Seven_Six_Two> leo-the-manic, that's possible, just as it's possible that the button said "install now"
[15:15] <Seven_Six_Two> err...upgrade now
[15:15] <leo-the-manic> Just seems poorly designed. I can't really have tea for 3.5 hours but I guess that's my fault for clicking a button to try and get more info than "A new version is available"
[15:17] <Seven_Six_Two> Pici, interesting to note, the conflict between the shell builtin and the external command is mentioned in the opening paragraph of time's entry in Linux in a nutshell.
[15:17] <rosco_y> leo-the-manic: Read the Harry Potter Series
[15:17] <leo-the-manic> rosco_y: Haha xD I appreciate the help but I really should be working. But it seems I lucked out. I wanted to install coffeescript but I can install it through npm instead of apt-get
[15:18] <leo-the-manic> *phew*
[15:18] <rosco_y> I sympothize though, it's tough when it looks like an install is hung
[15:18] <mrvisser> Hey, I have an ubuntu server setup, and when I run netstat -anp | grep -e tcp -e udp, I find that there are a couple ports being listened on, but the process name is just a "dash" -
[15:18] <rosco_y> :)
[15:18] <mrvisser> does anyone know what that indicates?
[15:19] <rosco_y> nupe, not-me
[15:19] <BritishG4m3r> Hey all! I'm attempting to kill a process in Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS.  I can successfully kill the process in question but after running 'grep' again I can see a new process has appeared under a different PID running the same file. Any way I can stop this file running?
[15:19] <SwedeMike> BritishG4m3r: what process is this?
[15:20] <jrib> BritishG4m3r: be more specific
[15:20] <BritishG4m3r> 1012      1195  3.0  2.1 5783520 711484 pts/8  Sl+  10:26   1:41 java -server -d64 -Xincgc -Xmx3G -jar mcpc-plus.jar nogui
[15:20] <BritishG4m3r> that's what grep is throwing at me
[15:21] <SwedeMike> BritishG4m3r: use ps -axjf to get process tree, kill whatever process is spawning the java process.
[15:21] <hawa> at reboot my touchpad doesnt work... but after locking and unlocking the touchpad it works. its not a big problem as the touchpad works after locking and unlocking it... however i have to do it every time i boot my ubuntu... anybody help???
[15:21] <SwedeMike> BritishG4m3r: "ps axjf" I mean
[15:22] <Seven_Six_Two> you can also call pstree for a more visual tree as well
[15:23] <hawa> at reboot my touchpad doesnt work... but after locking and unlocking the touchpad it works. its not a big problem as the touchpad works after locking and unlocking it... however i have to do it every time i boot my ubuntu... anybody help??? couldnt find help in any forums
[15:24] <BritishG4m3r> SwedeMike: thanks a bunch, that seems to have done it
[15:24] <BluesKaj> ud
[15:24] <Seven_Six_Two> !repeat | hawa
[15:25] <hawa> i tried searching it...
[15:27] <hawa> does anybody know how do i reinstall my touchpad driver??? like a fresh installation
[15:28] <blazemore> hawa: I doubt that's the problem
[15:28] <blazemore> hawa: the driver is part of the kernel
[15:28] <hawa> really... it used to work like a charm...
[15:28] <blazemore> WHat changed between it working, and it not working?
[15:28] <hawa> i dnt quite understand what made it do so..
[15:28] <Gnurdux> m
[15:28] <hawa> it is working... bt i have to lock and unlock every time i reboot
[15:29] <alichiman> question all.  Installing ubuntu server 12.04 LTS for the first time.  trying to set-up LVM and was wondering if there is a way to have / be a part of the LVM.
[15:29] <hawa> only then does that work...
[15:29] <hikenboot> cipherboy: it seems to be defaulting grub to the memtest
[15:29] <bgardner> hawa: You said it "used to work like a charm" - when did that change?
[15:29] <hawa> i dnt quite remember when did it stopped working...
[15:30] <hawa> or what made it so..
[15:30] <BluesKaj> hawa, check your touchpad options is there a sessions lock/unlock option ?
[15:31] <hawa> Blueskaj... u mean in system setting???
[15:31] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:31] <hawa> its ubuntu 12.04 there's no such option there in mine..
[15:31] <hawa> is there supposed to be???
[15:31] <cipherboy> hikenboot, then change your GRUB_DEFAULT command to match.
[15:32] <BluesKaj> dunno hawa , I don't run unity/gnome
[15:32] <hawa> okie tnx anwy...
[15:32] <hawa> what do i run then...
[15:32] <BluesKaj> but I assume there must be
[15:33] <hawa> i am fed up of unity as well...
[15:33] <blazemore> hawa: there is a settings panel somewhere
[15:33] <hawa> any suggestion...
[15:33] <monkwitdafunk> Unity desktop enviroment is the default in the latest LTS right?
[15:33] <hikenboot> thanks I was just about to do that I changed the wrong line
[15:33] <hawa> there i settings...
[15:33] <hawa> but there is no such thing as session lock unlock
[15:33] <cipherboy> hikenboot, no problem.
[15:34] <SonikkuAmerica> monkwitdafunk: Indeed (in Ubuntu).
[15:35] <hawa> monkwitdafunk: nice name... yes unity is default with LTS
[15:35] <SonikkuAmerica> monkwitdafunk: Kubuntu = KDE, Xubuntu = XFCE, Lubuntu = LXDE (not an LTS), Ubuntu Studio = XFCE, Edubuntu = Unity
[15:38] <bamdad> hi
[15:38] <bamdad> Is there any way to understand which repository a package is installed from ?
[15:38] <Pici> bamdad: apt-cache policy packagename
[15:39] <jhutchins> How do you display the LUN number from the server it's attached to?
[15:39] <bamdad> But it returns a list
[15:39] <bamdad> Pici: there is a list of mirrors, I wanna know which mirror exactly
[15:39] <Pici> bamdad: If they all have the same version number, why does it matter?
[15:40] <bamdad> I installed a package, and they behave differently
[15:40] <bamdad> they are installed from different mirrors on 2 different servers
[15:40] <lun> my number?
[15:41] <blazemore> lun: You're quick ;)
[15:41] <alichiman> question all.  Installing ubuntu server 12.04 LTS for the first time.  trying to set-up LVM and was wondering if there is a way to have / be a part of the LVM.
[15:44] <ikonia> alichiman: / can be part of lvm
[15:45] <cipherboy> Question, anyone have any decent tutorials on cross compiling?
[15:45] <ActionPa1snip> !rootirc | Guest95120
[15:45] <ikonia> cipherboy: its not something thats a strict way, the approach depends on a few things
[15:45] <ikonia> cipherboy: you'll find some good advice in ##c and ##c++
[15:46] <alichiman> how?  you can't create the lvm partition without having root
[15:46] <cipherboy> ikonia, thanks, specifically looking to try and hack apart Xcode to get a toolchain for iOS/Arm
[15:46] <ikonia> alichiman: sorry what ?
[15:46] <ikonia> cipherboy: not really an ubuntu issue
[15:47] <blazemore> alichiman: I think you're *fundamentally* misunderstanding something here, and I'd advise avoiding doing anything to your system you don't understand
[15:47] <blazemore> !lvm | alichiman
[15:47] <hrolf> Is there any player which remembers the playback position for each file? I have large collection of files and they are huge files (plus more than 3 hours), so is there any player which saves the last playback position?
[15:47] <blazemore> hrolf: video files?
[15:47] <alichiman> read the http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[15:48] <ikonia> alichiman: I know how to use it
[15:48] <alichiman> And blaze this is just a test box I'm playing with
[15:48] <ikonia> alichiman: why don't you explain your question
[15:48] <hrolf> blazemore: No audio only.
[15:49] <alichiman> ikonia.  I meant I read that article already.  Sorry
[15:49] <blazemore> hrolf: Some Googleing has uncovered Songbird has an addon called "Last Track Resume"
[15:49] <blazemore> hrolf: I know mpd does it too
[15:50] <blazemore> hrolf: In fact, since you have a specific requirement for an audio player, you'd probably get quite a lot out of mpd
[15:50] <blazemore> mpd + aria
[15:50] <blazemore> That's what I use anyway (mpd+aria)
[15:51] <hrolf> blazemore: Songbird is a plugin for?
[15:51] <alichiman> so I am running throught the 12.04 server install and creating my partitions which I can't create an LVM without designating a root partition first
[15:51] <hrolf> blazemore: Oops. Sorry.
[15:52] <ikonia> alichiman: of course you can
[15:52] <ikonia> alichiman: you make the root "partition" a logical volume hanging from the lvm volume group you've created
[15:53] <alichiman> I can't.  I can't create the lvm without having the root partition existing.
[15:53] <ikonia> alichiman: yes you can
[15:53] <ikonia> alichiman: you actually shouldn't have a root "partition"
[15:53] <ikonia> as root should be a logical volume
[15:55] <K___> Nvidia GeForce GTX 680 2 GB GDDR5
[15:55] <K___> good card
[15:55] <ikonia> K___: try ##hardware
[15:57] <JyZyXEL> why doesn't Ubuntu 13 handle the situation where you install Ubuntu Desktop to a computer that doesn't support Unity?
[15:57] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: how does it know it won't support unity ?
[15:57] <JyZyXEL> it just gets stuck showing the Ubuntu wallpaper and nothing else
[15:57] <JyZyXEL> ikonia: because unitu_test_support crashes
[15:57] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: a lot of it will be down to graphics vendors/drivers incompatability
[15:58] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: that's interesting, got a bug logged for that
[15:58] <JyZyXEL> where?
[15:58] <ikonia> !bug | JyZyXEL
[15:58] <JyZyXEL> it sent the bug report
[15:58] <JyZyXEL> did you find it?
[15:58] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: I've not looked
[15:59] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: you need to log a bug detailing the problem, it sounds worth logging
[15:59] <JyZyXEL> you said you got a bug for it, i thought u found it
[15:59] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: or check if there is a bug already logged and then add to it
[15:59] <UTAN_dev> >>> Hello all. I'm running ubuntu 12.04 LTS inside VirtualBox 4.2.16 on Windows 7 64-bit. That means my GUI is Unity, right? How can I determine which window manager is running? (I'm trying to get better window management, e.g. tiling or move window to left/right half of the screen.) Thanks!
[15:59] <hrolf> blazemore: In Ario, where do I import my files? No option there.
[15:59] <JyZyXEL> but anyways after that crashes, the desktop just stays empty
[15:59] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: get a bug logged
[15:59] <JyZyXEL> you just have the empty desktop and nothing to continue with
[15:59] <JyZyXEL> horrible user experience for my dad
[15:59] <blazemore> hrolf: You configure mpd, ario is just a client for mpd
[16:00] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: complaining about it won't change it - log a bug
[16:00] <JyZyXEL> i logged it
[16:00] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: what is the bug ID
[16:00] <JyZyXEL> it didn't tell
[16:00] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: then you've not logged it
[16:00] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: log a bug - or find an existing bug to append your info to
[16:00] <hrolf> blazemore: How to configure mpd?
[16:00] <JyZyXEL> ikonia: i used the dialog that came up
[16:00] <hrolf> blazemore: I have a folder in which there are my audio files. I want to import them all.
[16:01] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: READ the link I sent you about logging a bug
[16:01] <blazemore> hrolf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPD
[16:02] <JyZyXEL> ikonia: also it required to input a password, the installation process didn't even ask to set a root password :p
[16:02] <blazemore> hrolf: basically you edit /etc/mpd.conf
[16:02] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: because ubuntu doesn't use a root password
[16:02] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: this is the correct behaviour
[16:02] <jeffkadet> Hello, I am very new to ubuntu (or any other linux system).  I have an IBM 570 Thinkpad with Pentium II manufactured in 1999.  I have no idea of the memory or hard drive space since I haven't used it in years and don't have the password to get into it.  I first tried Xubuntu desktop and then after more online research tired ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.  In both cases, all I get on the screen is "Operating System not found".  I appreciate any
[16:02] <jeffkadet> suggestions.  Jeff
[16:02] <JyZyXEL> so the regular user password is ok to use there
[16:02] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: where ?
[16:02] <JyZyXEL> in the bug reporting dialog
[16:02] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: forget the bug reporting dialog - it's asking for a launchpad account
[16:03] <hrolf> blazemore: Does my files all need to be in a single folder?
[16:03] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: READ the inforamtion I've given you and log a bug CORRECTLY
[16:03] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: OR search for an existing bug and append the info you have to the bug
[16:03] <JyZyXEL> can the bug reporter even function like intended when the OS crashes before the desktop has even loaded?
[16:04] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: I'm stopping discussion now as you are just ignoring what I'm telling you to do
[16:04] <JyZyXEL> thats because the information in your link is for a working system
[16:04] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: use another system to log the bug
[16:05] <tgunr> yikes! I was in a folder named /play and needed to set ownership and used `cd /play' then `chown -R davec:dev .'  followed by `chmod -R g+w .' then noticed it did not set the .git folder. I used `chmod -R g+w .*' and it changed EVRYTHING under / My question, is there a app like MAcOSX to check permisions and get them back to default?
[16:05] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: I suspect there is already a bug for this
[16:06] <ikonia> JyZyXEL: I'd be surprised if one doesn't exist
[16:06] <blazemore> hrolf: If I were you I'd leave the default music folder alone, and just symlink your actual music library in it
[16:07] <alichiman> sorry Ikonia - Got interrupted.  So When I run through the installer, I partion my disks and have three primary partitions.  Boot, Swap, and LVM.
 When I try and configure the lvm I receive a message there must be a root partition to proceed
[16:07] <ikonia> alichiman: NO
[16:07] <ikonia> alichiman: you don't use partitions, as I've said - 3 - 4 times to you now
[16:07] <hrolf> blazemore: How to do that?
[16:08] <ActionPa1snip> tgunr: i suggest you reinstall
[16:09] <tgunr> not possible
[16:09] <ActionPa1snip> tgunr: well, your OS isnt going to work if you dont
[16:09] <tgunr> it's in TX, I'm in CA
[16:09] <ActionPa1snip> tgunr: submit a smarthands request
[16:09] <ikonia> tgunr: put everything back to root:root 775 - then lock it down
[16:09] <ikonia> tgunr: it won't be "as default" but you can reverse it applying logic
[16:10] <ikonia> and fixing minor bugs, such as home directory, or mysql socket file permissions as they come up
[16:10] <tgunr> thats the problem, 775 root:root is not going to work for the sudoers file
[16:10] <alichiman> no clue what I was doing wrong.  got it to work now
[16:10] <ikonia> tgunr: that's why I said fix the minor issues
[16:10] <ikonia> tgunr: putting it to root:root 775 - means it's safe for root, then open up what you need to open/change to fix bugs
[16:10] <ikonia> eg: ssh key files, sudoers, mysql socket files, home directories etc etc
[16:10] <tgunr> hmm, k, have not had this happen to me for 10+ years
[16:11] <ActionPa1snip> tgunr: could restore a backup
[16:11] <ikonia> don't see how long it's not happened for make a difference
[16:11] <tgunr> i mean, why would `chmod -R g+w .*' change the root /?
[16:12] <ikonia> tgunr: depends where you executed it from
[16:12] <tgunr> I was in /play
[16:12] <ikonia> tgunr: then it woudln't douch root
[16:12] <ikonia> as in "/"
[16:13] <ikonia> touch root I should say
[16:13] <tgunr> but it did, I about crapped when i saw a stream of ./proc denial messages
[16:13] <bgardner> tgunr: It touched "/" because ".*" matches ".."
[16:13] <ikonia> tgunr: it didn't - either you where in the wrong dir or that's the wrong command
[16:13] <ActionPa1snip> tgunr: you sure you werent in / and used ./*
[16:13] <ActionPa1snip> bgardner: ahhh nice catch
[16:13] <blazemore> Why do people ask for help and then leave? It's so frustrating. Sorry for off-topic
[16:13] <tgunr> I'm positive, i looked at my .history file to make sure
[16:14] <ikonia> tgunr: bgardner has caught it
[16:14] <randomaussie> evening gents... i appear to have broken somehting updating my os... i nolonger can control my wifi or my wired lan... the network icon either doesnt appear at all or is greyed out. and when i double click on the greyed out icon, the error i get something about drivers not working with this version.... any pointers please
[16:14] <ActionPa1snip> blazemore: i know, or keep bleating on and not responding to info requests
[16:14] <tgunr> hmm, .. at one level down from /
[16:15] <ikonia> tgunr: yes as bgardner caught, .* would also match .. which is the same as cd ../
[16:15] <ActionPa1snip> tgunr: yes, .. is the folder above, which was '/'
[16:15] <tgunr> I'm sure I have used chmod -R nnnn . before, i know i have
[16:15] <tgunr> testing
[16:15] <ikonia> tgunr: yes, . is different from .*
[16:16] <tgunr> i meant .*, cause * won;t change dot files
[16:16] <ActionPa1snip> tgunr: I think you need to research what globbing and so forth actually does
[16:16] <ikonia> tgunr: if that's the cause, then you made a mistake with your command/directory
[16:16] <ActionPa1snip> tgunr: * will change dot files, * is everything
[16:17] <Zoohouse> I installed Ubuntu on my laptop (used the entire disk) and now I want to install a second distro to duo boot. Do I have to format and partition my drive with logical partitions to be able to duo boot or can I partition now and install my second distro on there?
[16:17] <tgunr> regardless, seems to me linux could do with a reset permissions like OSX can
[16:17] <ikonia> tgunr: I don't see why as you can fix it just as I've shown
[16:17] <ikonia> tgunr: and it's trivial to write a script
[16:17] <ActionPa1snip> Zoohouse: boot to liveCD and resize the Ext4 then install to the freed space (assuming you didnt make 4 primary partitions for Ubuntu)
[16:18] <tgunr> Yes, I can, but I'm sure to miss something
[16:18] <ActionPa1snip> tgunr: why make it, the user level aimed at for Ubuntu is new user, and users rarely go butchering their OS running commands they don't understand
[16:18] <ikonia> tgunr: then you should be careful if you are running a remote server
[16:18] <hikenboot> anyone with experience upgrading ubunt 12.04 to 13.04 where the primary use is lamp, and wordpress? does the installs work?
[16:18] <rantic> hikenboot: Yes, it works fine.
[16:18] <hikenboot> thanks
[16:18] <ActionPa1snip> hikenboot: why do you want to do that? Raring support dies in January 2014...Precise is supported til April 2017
[16:19] <tgunr> I usually am very careful, like i said, first time i been bitten in 10+ years
[16:19] <hikenboot> ah good point
[16:19] <Zoohouse> ActionPa1snip, this is what my disk looks like now: http://pastebin.com/KNX4Rs1C
[16:19] <hikenboot> ok I wont I just have some speed issues when compaired with the same install on debian 6 box. maybe I need to optimize my kernel for a vm environment
[16:20] <ActionPa1snip> Zoohouse: resize the sda2 then make an extended partition inside it, you can then install the other OS on logical partitions in that
[16:20] <jaenie> hi...  I'm trying to search for solution to setup xfce with multiple desktops on multiple screens, but I cannot figure out what to call it when I want each screen to have separate desktops, i mean each with its own pager.  I can do the one-big-wide-desktops across both screens.  but is there a way to split them up with the the default video drivers?
[16:21] <jaenie> what would that be called? (or... how to search for it? :p)
[16:21] <b7> Hello everyone. Can anyone explain why I getting the message "RTNETLINK answers: File exists Failed to bring up eth0." when I trying to do /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[16:21] <blazemore> jaenie: I actually don't think that's possible, at least with xfce
[16:21] <b7> Google gives me a links to a pages where people have this problem because of multiple gateway lines in /etc/network/interfaces file, but I have only one gateway here.
[16:21] <Zoohouse> ActionPa1snip, Do I have to do anything special with Grub once I do all that?
[16:21] <jaenie> blazemore, hrm... ok :(  I thought it was, that's why i was trying it out. I have an OLD ati card and cannot get the legacy driver to compule
[16:21] <blazemore> b7: Does that happen when you do "sudo service networking stop" followed by "sudo service networking start" ?
[16:21] <heath> does ubuntu 13.04 come installed with python v3?
[16:21] <heath> i'm not wanting to download 13.04 and throw it on a virtual machine to find out
[16:21] <heath> er, guess i should anyway, just to verify
[16:21] <blazemore> jaenie: There probably is a window manager that can do that
[16:22] <blazemore> heath: yes
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> !info python | heath
[16:22] <jaenie> blazemore... don't say Unity! hah
[16:22] <b7> blazemore, I didn't try it, because I'm connecting over SSH to this remote server. I'll try it now.
[16:23] <blazemore> jaenie: I don't believe so, but perhaps KDE?
[16:23] <blazemore> heath: Python 3.3.1
[16:23] <blazemore> !info python3 | heath
[16:23] <ActionPa1snip> jaenie: Unity isnt a WM
[16:23] <rayray> hey guys, is there anyway to save settings from a live user session if there is *NO* persistence file on the usb stick?
[16:23] <ActionPa1snip> jaenie: its a shell
[16:23] <blazemore> jaenie: KDE has some really fancy advanced window management options, if anything can do per-screen desktop paging, it'll be KDE
[16:24] <blazemore> rayray: Not automatically, and not easily
[16:24] <ActionPa1snip> rayray: could mount a partition as /home on a removable magnetic storage, the settings will retain
[16:24] <blazemore> rayray: It depends what you want to save
[16:24] <blazemore> ActionPa1snip: Is that the case once it's already up and running?
[16:24] <rayray> installed apps
[16:25] <blazemore> rayray: You want to install apps, then boot from the LiveUSB at some point in the future, and have those apps, and all their settings, as they were?
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> rayray  my first distro was Knoppix, I remember you could save a live session in Knoppix
[16:26] <blazemore> Sorry all I gtg home now
[16:27] <rayray> i can't help but feel theres gotta be a way
[16:27] <blazemore> rayray: Why not just recreate the LiveUSB with persistance?
[16:27] <rayray> i guess i gotta, i was just hoping to spare myself the work'
[16:28] <rayray> that'll happen, huh?
[16:28] <shankarwaikhom> hi
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> rayray  there's this, cow mean copy on write   http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-linux-live-cd-save-data-desktop-information-on-usb-device.html
[16:30] <rayray> i'll try it! thx.
[16:30] <Guest73023> VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 ubuntu no sound please explain the process of how to get it working new install
[16:32] <Guest73023> raring new install
[16:32] <holstein> !sound | Guest73023
[16:34] <Guest73023> there are a list of output devices
[16:35] <lodenrogue> good afternoon. I installed Ubuntu 12 a few days ago and everything is working perfectly but just now the sound starting going wonky. Everything sounds distorted (kind of like a robot voice). Any assistance with that please?
[16:35] <holstein> lodenrogue: 12.04?
[16:36] <Guest73023> Analogue output/amplifier built-in audio, Analogue output/ No Amplifier built-in audio
[16:36] <whoever> hi all, i am tring to get my logitech quickcam 400pro working on 12.10, can someone assist, the camera has worked previously
[16:36] <holstein> lodenrogue: did you apply upgrades? and then it "broke"?
[16:36] <lodenrogue> yes holstein
[16:36] <Guest73023> Analogue Mono output/amplifier built-in audio
[16:36] <lodenrogue> holstein, I had applied the updates and it worked perfectly it just started going wonky now
[16:36] <Guest73023> Analogue Mono output/No amplifier built-in audio
[16:36] <holstein> Guest73023: i usually install pavucontrol. try that
[16:37] <holstein> lodenrogue: i would do the basics.. test with the guest account.. try the older kernel
[16:38] <lodenrogue> ok
[16:38] <lodenrogue> thanks
[16:38] <lodenrogue> is there any way to reset the audio though holstein ?
[16:39] <holstein> lodenrogue: sure .. you can reset pulse or alsa, or reboot
[16:40] <JoTraGo> My Ubuntu 1204 on Dell Vostro would occasionally just shutdown for no apparent reason. I just discovered the Log viewer and spotted the entry that the CPU was over temp at 100Deg Cent. Can i get to the ACPI hardware monitoring interface in Ubuntu, to check more closely on this, or is there a hardware monitoring app where I could keep an eye on the CPU temp in real time?
[16:40] <lodenrogue> how do I reset pulse or alsa holstein ?
[16:40] <Kurza> hi, does anyone know where I can find g++ 4.7.x as ubuntu 10.04 package (i686). Default version which comes with build-essential is 4.3 and unfortunately I need 4.3+
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> Kurza  is that 10.04 server? if not, consider upgrading
[16:41] <Kurza> it is server, yes
[16:42] <shankarwaikhom_> k
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> Kurza  12.04 LTS has g++ 4:4.6.3
[16:42] <lodenrogue> holstein, lol I just open up sound in system settings and now it's working properly again. haha
[16:43] <holstein> lodenrogue: for pulse, i searched "ubuntu restart pulse" and found http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/01/how-to-restart-pulseaudio-sound-server-ubuntu-linux/ which suggests "pulseaudio -k"
[16:43] <Kurza> MonkeyDust: no way, I don't want to upgrade it
[16:43] <Kurza> MonkeyDust: maybe I can compile g++ itself?
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> Kurza  then try the !backports
[16:43] <JyZyXEL> how do you list the latest reported ubuntu bugs?
[16:43] <ripthejacker> I'm trying to use Amarok on Ubuntu 13.04 raring and it's crashing frequently
[16:44] <ripthejacker> I don't know it it's related but I feel it's been crashing more often after the kernel update
[16:44] <holstein> ripthejacker: you can launch it from a terminal and see if there are helpful errors. you can try removing its config file
[16:44] <ripthejacker> holstein:  shall I pastebin the error
[16:44] <holstein> ripthejacker: you can also launch the older kernel and test your theory
[16:45] <ripthejacker> holstein: I'll have to restart the pc for that right?
[16:46] <Guest73023> http://pastebin.com/BmQqRQbx
[16:47] <zacarias1> I'm unable to add a network printer. Neither by the GUI system settings nor by the localhost:631. The system doesn't find the printer, even though it's in the same Wi-Fi network. Any help?
[16:47] <ripthejacker> holstein: btw the error is this:
[16:47] <ripthejacker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5878013/
[16:47] <holstein> ripthejacker: that, meaning to test the older kernel? you can choose it from grub at boot
[16:48] <Kurza> MonkeyDust: I couldn't find any in the official ubuntu repos, do you know where I can find it or maybe link to any PPA. Thanks in advance!
[16:48] <Guest73023> http://pastebin.com/VEreCdbh
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> Kurza  no,but try the !backports, to get a version from a more recent repo
[16:49] <holstein> ripthejacker: from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok-kde4/+bug/363891 apt-get install phonon-backend-xine libxine1-ffmpeg
[16:49] <Kurza> !backports
[16:51] <holstein> Guest73023: what i would do is get a known good audio file playing in a known good audio player, and launch pavucontrol and route
[16:51] <X98> Hello
[16:51] <X98> VLC Player
[16:51] <ikonia> X98: any chance you can converse in sentences rather than random words please ?
[16:52] <zacarias1> I'm unable to add a network printer. Neither by the GUI system settings nor by the localhost:631. The system doesn't find the printer, even though it's in the same Wi-Fi network. Any help?
[16:52] <X98> sorry for my bad English
[16:52] <ikonia> X98: no problem
[16:52] <holstein> zacarias1: can you ping it? or open a web interface?
[16:52] <ripthejacker> holstein: thanks I'll look into it
[16:52] <ikonia> zacarias1: does the printer have a web itnerface ?
[16:52] <X98> Even though I am form the UK !!!
[16:52] <holstein> ripthejacker: i would literally quickly install the suggested packages and test
[16:53] <zacarias1> holstein: How do I ping it?
[16:53] <zacarias1> ikonia: No, it doesn't :-(
[16:53] <ikonia> zacarias1: can you telnet to the port to test the connection ?
[16:53] <holstein> zacarias1: i use the terminal and "ping local.ip".. ping 192.168.x.x
[16:54] <X98> Anyone know on how to install fastboot drivers on ubuntu ( I have adb set up)
[16:54] <ikonia> X98: fastboot drivers ?
[16:54] <ikonia> X98: what do you mean ?
[16:54] <X98> I mean the driver for fastboot on android
[16:54] <saiarcot895> X98: see #ubuntu_touch
[16:54] <ikonia> X98: this is ubuntu support - not android
[16:55] <zacarias1> ikonia: How do I do that?
[16:55] <X98> I konw
[16:55] <X98> I Know
[16:55] <ikonia> X98: so why are you asking in #ubuntu ?
[16:55] <saiarcot895> X98: see #ubuntu-touch
[16:55] <ikonia> zacarias1: telnet you.printer.ip port
[16:55] <X98> I found out how to install adb here
[16:55] <ikonia> X98: we don't support android here - neither does ubuntu-touch
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> X98  type /join #ubuntu-touch
[16:55] <b7> blazemore, service networking stop gives "stop: Unknown instance:"
[16:55] <ikonia> #android is the channel for android support
[16:56] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: why is this anything to do with ubuntu-touch ? have I miss-read the problem ?
[16:56] <X98> I am using  android not ubuntu-touch and I'm running Ubuntu on this pc
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> X98  or rather: type /join #
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> X98  or rather: type /join #android
[16:56] <ikonia> X98: right so it's #android you need
[16:56] <X98> ok
[16:56] <ikonia> guys can you please think about where you are directing people off to, #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu-touch etc etc,
[16:57] <ikonia> they are not dumping grounds when other channels are more appropriate
[16:57] <Guest73023> I tried| sudo aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[16:57] <holstein> Guest73023: did you try using pavucontrol?
[16:58] <Guest73023> I installed it but i don't think that will run automatically
[16:58] <Guest73023> I need to find it
[16:59] <holstein> Guest73023: when you say "it", that is "pavucontrol" ? you can find pulse audio volume control in the menu.. or launch pavucontrol.. its not something that "runs"
[16:59] <TauNeutrino> hey penguin lovers
[16:59] <b00b00> hello
[16:59] <cereal> anyone install windows 7 on kvm via virt manager?  it keeps asking me for drivers and i'm not certain what I should be looking for haha
[17:00] <ikonia> cereal: many times, never seen it ask for drivers
[17:00] <ikonia> cereal: what hardware does it need drivers for ?
[17:00] <cereal> hmmm wonder what i'm doing wrong then
[17:00] <Guest73023> I ran it from the terminal
[17:00] <cereal> i don't know, it just says its looking for drivers
[17:00] <zacarias1> ikonia: I tried to telnet. It says "Connection refused"
[17:00] <ikonia> zacarias1: ok, so that's better than a time out, but it does mean it's rejecting your connection
[17:01] <ikonia> cereal: where does it say this, at what point ?
[17:01] <b00b00> how in bash i call to another script from a running script, but not wait the called scrit stop running (loop), and after "calling" that script, the caller script keep running forward
[17:01] <cereal> ikonia, have you done 64 bit?
[17:01] <ikonia> cereal: yes,
[17:01] <Guest73023> it has alot of the same things that sound panel icon   sound settings has
[17:01] <cereal> ikonia, immediately after clicking "install now"
[17:01] <ikonia> cereal: what's saying it though, the windows installer or libvirt ? can you get a screen shot
[17:01] <cereal> its the most generic screen ever, gives no hint as to what it could be :(
[17:02] <cereal> oh, yea its windows installer
[17:02] <holstein> Guest73023: it does.. so, get an audio file playing, and see if you can route it and here it *anywhere*.. test *all* outputs
[17:02] <cereal> i'll get you a screenshot hang on :D
[17:02] <ikonia> cereal: I'm wondering if you've not configured the hardware for the virtual machine correctly
[17:02] <ozzloy> http://pastebin.com/1ugyFmCE what's wrong with this apache config?
[17:02] <zacarias1> ikonia: I don't know why. I have two other Ubuntu-running computers in  the same network and they connect to the printer without problems
[17:02] <ikonia> cereal: eg: the E1000 device for network cards will need a driver,
[17:02] <Guest73023> I haven't been running files
[17:02] <cereal> ikonia, yea possible.
[17:02] <cereal> i'm not too familiar with kvm :(
[17:02] <ikonia> cereal: thats one that I know of, so I'm sure there are others
[17:02] <Guest73023> but i have been playing youtube music videos
[17:03] <ikonia> ozzloy: looks like you're trying to bind more than one site to an IP/port, or the ports already in use
[17:04] <ozzloy> ikonia, how do i not do that?
[17:04] <holstein> Guest73023: that is why i said "known good" audio files.. you could be experiencing a flash related error, and you are troubleshooting the sound card
[17:04] <ozzloy> i'm not apache savvy
[17:04] <ozzloy> ikonia, thanks for looking at it
[17:04] <holstein> Guest73023: close the browser, and play a normal, known good audio file to test the sound, please
[17:04] <ashish> is gnome 3.8 is not supported in ubuntu12.04?
[17:04] <ikonia> ozzloy: so it's set to listen on port 80, is anything already listening on 80 ?
[17:05] <ozzloy> ikonia, idk, i'll check, but i would be surprised if so
[17:05] <jrib> ozzloy: is that proper syntax?
[17:05] <Pici> jrib: it matches my ports.conf
[17:06] <ozzloy> http://pastebin.com/index/1ugyFmCE ikonia no, that port is open
[17:06] <ozzloy> jrib, idk?  i didn't modify the file
[17:06] <cereal> ikonia, https://www.dropbox.com/s/gsag46ll2oldt68/win7_install.png
[17:06] <ikonia> the error is in 000-default
[17:06] <ikonia> not ports.conf
[17:06] <ozzloy> jrib, i did just do an upgrade though
[17:06] <ozzloy> oh
[17:06] <Guest73023> if it helps in output devices I do see what must be the pick up bar fluctuating like it is should be outputting sound
[17:06] <ozzloy> this is on a debian server
[17:06] <ozzloy> not ubuntu
[17:06] <ikonia> cereal: $10 says it's your network card set to E1000
[17:06] <ikonia> ozzloy: then why are you asking in #ubuntu
[17:06] <cereal> ok i'll look at it!
[17:06] <jrib> Pici, ozzloy: oh, mine looks like "Listen 127.0.0.1:80"
[17:07] <whoever> need some help with getting logitech quickcam pro 5000 working i can see it with dmesg but am getting a black screen when i try to tass it in cheese
[17:07] <Guest41911> ubuntu13.10 will support amd 4000 series graphic card?? as i downgrade from 13.04 to 12.04 because poor system performance
[17:07] <jrib> Pici, ozzloy: erm, that's probably something I modified... hah
[17:07] <cereal> ikonia, it's set to 'hypervisor default' in virt-manager haha
[17:07] <ozzloy> jrib, is that for something that is reachable from the web?
[17:07] <ikonia> cereal: why is that funny ?
[17:07] <cereal> because it doesnt tell me what the default is ;)
[17:07] <jrib> ozzloy: no, only my localhost (which I just remembered)
[17:07] <ikonia> cereal: ok, so force it
[17:07] <cereal> any suggestions on which model ?
[17:08] <cereal> rtl8139 seems like a good guess to me
[17:08] <ikonia> cereal: as generic as possible
[17:08] <holstein> Guest73023: downgrade, and test 13.10 with your specific hardware live *before* you install
[17:08] <ozzloy> jrib, i'll give that a shot and see what happens
[17:09] <holstein> Guest73023: you are likely experiencing poor driver support, not poor performance
[17:09] <cereal> ikonia, though i've never had windows xp or above complain about e1000 in vmware, makes me wonder
[17:09] <saiarcot895> holstein: I think you mean Guest41911
[17:09] <Guest73023> font left front right, rear right, rear rear left all 100% (0.00dB)
[17:09] <holstein> saiarcot895: too many guests ;)
[17:09] <jrib> ozzloy: ok, maybe it will give you some hints anyway.  What I said is not what you want.  Maybe try a different port (like 81 or 8080) instead
[17:09] <holstein> Guest73023: ^^
[17:09] <whoever> am on ubuntu 12.10
[17:09] <saiarcot895> holstein: wrong guest again
[17:10] <holstein> saiarcot895: :/
[17:10] <Guest73023> via82xx is listed on http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main
[17:10] <Guest73023> sounds like you know what that means
[17:10] <Guest41911> is there is any solution for 13.04 right now or will be in 13.10?
[17:10] <cereal> ikonia, yea changing it to a few of them didn't seem to help.  i'm thinking its more than just the network :(
[17:11] <CarlFK> how do I turn off visual effects?  system settings, Appearance just gives me "Background"
[17:11] <saiarcot895> Guest41911: see holstein 's reply a few lines above
[17:11] <zacarias1> ikonia: Do you have any idea about why the connection to the printer is being rejected?
[17:11] <saiarcot895> Guest41911: basically, downgrade, and then test Ubuntu 13.10 on a live CD
[17:11] <ikonia> zacarias1: no
[17:11] <ozzloy> http://bghints.blogspot.com/2012/06/error-after-upgrading-apache-httpd-from.html jrib this looks promising.  i'll try that after this.  thanks for the input
[17:11] <ikonia> zacarias1: telnet to it from one of the working PC's
[17:12] <ikonia> zacarias1: it may not be a problem
[17:12] <Guest73023> do you mean 12.10 and not 13.10?
[17:12] <zacarias1> ikonia: thanks
[17:12] <jrib> ozzloy: ah, so you are on an old kernel?
[17:12] <netlar> I read an article that linux kernal 3.10.1 is now available for Ubuntu, but I am only on 3.8.0, why is that?
[17:12] <ikonia> he's on debian
[17:12] <ikonia> which is why this should be moved to #debian
[17:13] <jrib> indeed
[17:14] <cereal> ikonia, hmmm looks like someone on the interwebs hinted it could be a corrupt image
[17:14] <cereal> i'm going to re-download it and let you know ;)
[17:14] <ikonia> cereal: image ? as in ISO image ?
[17:14] <cereal> yes
[17:14] <saiarcot895> netlar: Raring will stay on the 3.8.0 kernel
[17:14] <ikonia> cereal: can't see that being the case, but maybe
[17:14] <cereal> i'll give a try, but yea.
[17:14] <netlar> saiarcot895: so that is for 13.10?
[17:15] <saiarcot895> netlar: possibly; currently, Saucy has 3.10.0
[17:16] <netlar> saiarcot895: so Ubuntu does not update the kernal until the next version of Ubuntu, just curious
[17:16] <saiarcot895> netlar: yes; typically, once a distro is released, the expectation is that the packages for that distro are stable
[17:17] <saiarcot895> netlar: if there are severe bugs or regressions, those packages can get an update
[17:17] <cipherboy> Hey, where would I get the QEMU package?
[17:17] <saiarcot895> netlar: or if there is any security fix, for that matter
[17:18] <ikonia> cipherboy: the ubuntu repos
[17:18] <cipherboy> ikonia, package name, sorry.
[17:18] <ikonia> cipherboy: search
[17:18] <netlar> saiarcot895: is it better to wait a little while to upgrade after the release of a new Ubuntu version, for those updates?
[17:19] <saiarcot895> netlar: I think that's more of a personal choice
[17:19] <cipherboy> ikonia, package name qemu like I thought... then why did command suggestion come back with qtemu and aqemu but not qemu?
[17:19] <ikonia> cipherboy: because there are multiple options
[17:19] <saiarcot895> netlar: the packages for that distro has been in that distro for some time, since there is a Feature Freeze period, so I would think it is mostly stable
[17:20] <netlar> saiarcot895: Just thinking for stability purposes, besause Ubuntu is more cutting edge right?
[17:20] <saiarcot895> netlar: depends what distro you are on
[17:20] <netlar> What do you mean?
[17:21] <saiarcot895> netlar: there's a Long-Term Support version (Precise, 12.04), and there are other versions released every 6 months (Quantal, Raring)
[17:21] <netlar> So the LTS verions are more stable?
[17:21] <saiarcot895> netlar: Precise, being LTS, is supported for 5 years with security fixes
[17:21] <saiarcot895> netlar: yes
[17:21] <varunendra> netlar, there are LTS releases of Ubuntu as well, which are not so 'Cutting edge', and instead focus on stability. The current LTS is 12.04, the next one will be 14.04
[17:21] <whoever> ubuntu 12.10 64 bit, need some help with logitech quickcam pro 5000. i does not seem to be working at all in chesse , but does get pickedup by dmesg. can someone assist
[17:22] <netlar> saiarcot895: What is best way to upgrade when 14.04 comes out?
[17:22] <ikonia> netlar: it doesn't exist for over a year - so worry about it closer to the time
[17:23] <netlar> Just I heard it is better to do a clean install instead of an upgrade
[17:24] <ikonia> netlar: that's up to your opinion
[17:24] <saiarcot895> ikonia: technically, 8 months
[17:24] <netlar> ikonia: that is why i am asking here
[17:24] <saiarcot895> netlar: you can either directly upgrade from Precise (LTS to LTS) or you can directly upgrade from Saucy
[17:24] <ikonia> netlar: it's YOUR opinion that matters,
[17:24] <saiarcot895> netlar: at least, that's based on what I've seen
[17:24] <cereal> ikonia, yup.  it was the image.  now that I'm looking at it, appears it wasn't fully downloaded by the windows sysadmin here (really?)
[17:25] <netlar> saiarcot895: what if I am going from 13.04 to 14.04?
[17:25] <auronandace> netlar: 13.04 is not lts
[17:25] <saiarcot895> netlar: clean install or go from 13.04 to 13.10 and then 13.10 to 14.04, I think
[17:26] <netlar> saiarcot895: But will I have to load all the programs again on a clean install?
[17:26] <saiarcot895> netlar: yes
[17:26] <netlar> saiarcot895: I can just copy over my home directory?
[17:27] <ikonia> netlar: no
[17:27] <saiarcot895> ikonia: incompatibilities between versions, right?
[17:27] <netlar> Oh I thought you could do that, so that all the preferences and configurations can stay the same
[17:27] <ikonia> err no
[17:28] <ikonia> but your programs are not stored in your home directory
[17:28] <ikonia> and things chagne between config files, so there is no value to using the config from your home dir
[17:28] <netlar> ikonia: I am just talking about preferences not programs
[17:28] <ikonia> the data from the home dir should be fine though
[17:28] <ikonia> netlar: the preferences may/may not work
[17:29] <netlar> ikonia: wow, so all the work to set up my system now, will need to be repeated when I upgrade to 14.04?
[17:29] <saiarcot895> netlar: you could upgrade from Precise or Saucy
[17:29] <ikonia> netlar: 1.) who says you have to upgrade ? 2.) no - it's not wasted, you just need to pay attention/be aware of what's in the version you are upgrading to - hence why I'm telling you not to think about it now, as 14.04 doesn't exist
[17:29] <OerHeks> netlar you mix things up, clean install + copy home, and upgrade
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Netlar: or wait for 14.04 and upgrade LTS to LTS
[17:31] <netlar> ActionParsnip: I am one 13.04, so it would not be lts to lts
[17:31] <rdeman> hi all... I tried upgrading Trac... something failed... When I run from Terminal "easy_install" Ubuntu complains that Ubuntu is no longer available
[17:31] <ding> I actually installed 12.04 and then upgraded over the process of a day up to 13.04 and didn't reall;y check any of that on the way up
[17:31] <saiarcot895> netlar: then you would upgrade to Saucy when it releases and then 14.04 when it releases
[17:31] <rdeman> when I apt-get ionstall easy_install.. it says that easy_install is already installed!
[17:31] <ikonia> rdeman: easy_install is nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:31] <netlar> saiarcot895: I was a little scared about Mir
[17:31] <ikonia> rdeman: when you look at what it does
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Netlar : 13.04 is EOL in January 2014 but you can upgrade to 13.10 then to 14.04
[17:31] <holstein> its that process of a day that makes me just do fresh installs
[17:32] <rdeman> ikonia: well I know, but Ubuntu seems to be missing a lot of its binary files all of a sudden.. they are ther ebut cannot be executed
[17:32] <netlar> Mir is going to be a real big change
[17:32] <ikonia> rdeman: I doubt that very much
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Rdeman: like which files exactly?
[17:32] <ikonia> rdeman: show me one that can't be executed
[17:32] <ding> I would have just installed 13.04 if I thought it would agree with the outdated video card
[17:33] <ikonia> rdeman: I suspect easy_install is going to a website which no-longer contains the data, and failing
[17:34] <saiarcot895> netlar: the backend is certainly changing, but the frontend (what you see) will mostly be the same, with possibly some performance improvements
[17:34] <netlar> saiarcot895: I am just worried that there may be some compatiblity issues with 13.10
[17:34] <saiarcot895> netlar: if Mir is in 13.10, you could download a daily ISO and run it as a Live CD
[17:35] <saiarcot895> for that matter, will Mir be in 13.10
[17:35] <OerHeks> saiarcot895, no, xMir will be in 13.04, 14.04 will have Mir
[17:35] <netlar> saiarcot895: Oh I thought it was going to be the default
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Rdeman : what is the output of : cat /etc/issue
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Netlar : not in kubuntu and Lubuntu
[17:36] <netlar> ActionParsnip: but in the regular ubuntu
[17:36] <saiarcot895> netlar: so in 13.10, if your graphics card is able to run Mir, then it will run Mir
[17:36] <saiarcot895> netlar: otherwise, it will run the standard X
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Netlar : keep an ear to the ground and see
[17:37] <rdeman> guys hey thanks for the pointers...
[17:37] <rdeman> I had to reinstall Python as root
[17:37] <rdeman> that fiuxed it
[17:37] <OerHeks> saiarcot895, see this fridge story, xmir is the transit to mir. http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/
[17:37] <rdeman> as sudo it failed
[17:37] <ikonia> I doubt that
[17:37] <ActionParsnip>  Rdeman: sudo runs things as root
[17:37] <holstein> rdeman: what operating system are you using?
[17:38] <saiarcot895> OerHeks, netlar: oh, I was a little inaccurate
[17:38] <ActionParsnip>  Rdeman: only root can install packages
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Rdeman: what is the output of : cat /etc/issue
[17:38] <ikonia> I'd rather see uname -a
[17:38] <ikonia> as I suspect this is a VPS bastardized install
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Ikonia: becoming common now
[17:39] <holstein> yup. custom-buntu
[17:39] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: been common for years, vendors make these releases, charge for support, people don't want to pay for support so expect this channel to pick up the slack for free
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Holstein: butcherduntu
[17:40] <rdeman> I am using latest Ubuntu
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Ikonia : very true.
[17:40] <ikonia> rdeman: please show me the output of "uname -a"
[17:40] <lodenrogue> Hey guys. I noticed that 12.04 is the Long Term Support version. Is 12.10 also LTS?
[17:40] <rdeman> ehr somehow sudo failed where a root shell fixed it
[17:40] <saiarcot895> lodenrogue: no
[17:40] <ikonia> lodenrogue: no
[17:40] <whoever> what happend ubuntu 12.10 64 bit, uvcvideo does not exist
[17:40] <rdeman> ikonia: Linux skytrac 3.5.0-36-generic #57~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 20 15:22:35 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Rdeman: can you run the commands given please
[17:40] <ikonia> looks pretty standard actually
[17:40] <rdeman> ikonia: problem is fixed though, thanks! :)
[17:40] <ikonia> I'm surprised
[17:40] <lodenrogue> Thanks saiarcot895 and ikonia . What version do you guys use?
[17:41] <ikonia> rdeman: it really shouldn't be fixed
[17:41] <ikonia> rdeman: you shouldn't need to re-install pythong and you shouldn't need a root shell
[17:41] <saiarcot895> lodenrogue: 13.04, Raring
[17:41] <ikonia> rdeman: so something is very wrong there
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Lodenrogue: 8.04 10.04 and 12.04 are all LTS. Notice a pattern ;-)
[17:42] <lodenrogue> saiarcot895, I had tried 13.04 but for some reason the mouse sensitivity and speed settings weren't responding so I uninstalled it and switched to 12.04
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Lodenrogue : 12.04 is LTS and supported til April 2017. Raring is EOL in January 2014
[17:43] <saiarcot895> lodenrogue: did you try changing the Mouse and Touchpad settings in 13.04?
[17:44] <lodenrogue> yeah saiarcot895 that is where I had the problems. In 12.04 I have no problems
[17:44] <lodenrogue> thanks ActionParsnip is there a way to switch between versions to try it out?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Lodenrogue : could use a USB stick or even the liveCD
[17:45] <lodenrogue> ok thanks ActionParsnip
[17:45] <holstein> lodenrogue: live CD's are an easy way
[17:46] <holstein> sorry, i missed that response from ActionParsnip
[17:46]  * ActionParsnip is typing on an S3 Mini phone
[17:47] <ryanvade> exit
[17:47] <ubuntu-installer> hi guys, i'm in trouble with the ubuntu installer
[17:48] <ubuntu-installer> don't want to recognize a sata hd when i try to install ubuntu 13.04
[17:49] <ubuntu-installer> I see the hd on unity, can access it with nautilus but can't see it from the installer
[17:49] <holstein> ubuntu-installer: i would lanuch gparted from a live CD and look at the disk.. see if it shows there, and prepare it
[17:49] <randomaussie> hi all i dont kno wwhat i've done... but my gui cant interface with my netwrok drivers... but they are still working... can i get adive on fixing this pleawse
[17:49] <Gilligan94> randomaussie: could you please elaborate?
[17:50] <ubuntu-installer> holstein, i'm on a live ubuntu. I run gparted and, on it, all seems ok
[17:50] <blackshirt> hello, someone help me .. My keyboard stroke was so laggy in terminal when i typing some command ... Help me , what i should do
[17:50] <JonathanLopez> Hey guys.
[17:50] <ubuntu-installer> holstein, gparted shows a 160gb partition
[17:50] <JonathanLopez> I know that you're professional IT-dudes tryna help people.
[17:50] <JonathanLopez> but I need serious help.
[17:51] <JonathanLopez> and this is making me hate ubuntu.
[17:51] <JonathanLopez> ok so the question is:
[17:51] <randomaussie> gilligan94: umm.. well the net work is clearly working... both wired and wireless... but when i try acess the network settings they say they cant interface with the driver
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Blackshirt: what is the output of : cat /etc/issue
[17:51] <JonathanLopez> How can I create a virtual webcam on Linux just like Manycam does? I want that virtual webcam to display animated GIFs and so that virtual webcam SHOULD appear in the device-selection of broadcasting-websites.
[17:51] <JonathanLopez> ActionParsnip; please...please...help me.
[17:51] <holstein> ubuntu-installer: the, prepare the disk there.. assuming you need to shrink a partition or whatever
[17:51] <JonathanLopez> holstein; hi.
[17:52] <JonathanLopez> yo holstein, How can I create a virtual webcam on Linux just like Manycam does? I want that virtual webcam to display animated GIFs and so that virtual webcam SHOULD appear in the device-selection of broadcasting-websites.
[17:52] <Gilligan94> randomaussie: can you access it from the terminal?
[17:52] <holstein> JonathanLopez: ?
[17:52] <JonathanLopez> randomaussie: How can I create a virtual webcam on Linux just like Manycam does? I want that virtual webcam to display animated GIFs and so that virtual webcam SHOULD appear in the device-selection of broadcasting-websites.
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Jonathanlopez: not something I've ever done
[17:52] <holstein> JonathanLopez: you just ask the channel, generally, and a volunteer will help.. dont re-ask please
[17:52] <JonathanLopez> alright.
[17:52] <JonathanLopez> I will ask it once last time.
[17:52] <JonathanLopez> the main question of #ubuntu is: How can I create a virtual webcam on Linux just like Manycam does? I want that virtual webcam to display animated GIFs and so that virtual webcam SHOULD appear in the device-selection of broadcasting-websites.
[17:53] <randomaussie> I can surf te net from my gui... but i can interface with the driver settings.. i dont know how to do it from terminal... i look it up hang on
[17:53] <holstein> JonathanLopez: assume no one knows what manycam is, not wants to search it
[17:53] <JonathanLopez> I shall appreciate if anybody can help me, thanks in advance.
[17:53] <JonathanLopez> :)
[17:53] <Gilligan94> JonathanLopez: you dont need to reask it we can all see the previous questions
[17:53] <randomaussie> cant interface****
[17:53] <ubuntu-installer> holstein, i've already done all I can. I can partition it, resize it, delete partition and create a new partition table. But when i launch the installer it shows no partition, hd or not partitioned space
[17:53] <holstein> !alternate | ubuntu-installer
[17:53] <JonathanLopez> have you guys ever dealt with webcam-stuff on ubuntu?
[17:53] <JonathanLopez> any of you?
[17:53] <holstein> !patience | JonathanLopez
[17:53] <blackshirt> actionparsnip, i'm using 13.04
[17:53] <holstein> !mini | ubuntu-installer
[17:54] <Gilligan94> randomaussie: do you get anything from typing ifconfig in the terminal?
[17:54] <JonathanLopez> !patience | holstein
[17:54] <JonathanLopez> right back at'cha, holstein
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Randomaussie: do you mean samba shares on windows?
[17:54] <JonathanLopez> lol
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Blackshirt : what is the output of the command please
[17:54] <lodenrogue> Do you guys know when 13.04 will become LTS?
[17:54] <randomaussie> no i just mean the network icon in the top right corner says it cant interface with the drivers
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Lodenrogue : never
[17:54] <lodenrogue> ActionParsnip, ?
[17:55] <holstein> lodenrogue: it doesnt.. 14.04 will be LTS.. 12.04 is LTS>. 10.04 was for the desktop
[17:55] <lodenrogue> oh so only the even numbers I get it
[17:55] <Pici> Every 2 years.
[17:55] <randomaussie> well an ifconfig reports everything correctly
[17:55] <holstein> JonathanLopez: many use webcams on ubuntu.. what specfically are you trying to do? share a webcam from another machine?
[17:55] <randomaussie> 'i have 2 seperate ipaddress one for each adapter
[17:55] <lodenrogue> ok. So then some time around april of 2015 .
[17:56] <ubuntu-installer> holstein, sorry, but if i see it with nautilus and i can work on it, why with mini or alternate things may change?
[17:56] <holstein> ubuntu-installer: the mini iso is quite small, and will offer an alternative
[17:56] <JonathanLopez> holstein; I'll put it directly; I wanna troll people on omegle.com
[17:56] <JonathanLopez> I want a virtual-webcam to show GIFs
[17:56] <holstein> JonathanLopez: assume i dont use omegle.com, and i dont want to search
[17:56] <JonathanLopez> like /dev/video2 <--- i want this, to show lol.gif
[17:56] <JonathanLopez> like a output thingy
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Lodenrogue : a release doesn’t become LTS.  It is either LTS or not.  I showed you the pattern of releases which are LTS
[17:56] <holstein> JonathanLopez: i use "show desktop" where that is available.. otherwise, i would ask omegle for support
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> Lodenrogue : April 2014
[17:57] <JonathanLopez> omegle.com is a website, holstein.
[17:57] <JonathanLopez> I want to troll girls on there.
[17:57] <JonathanLopez> with gifs.
[17:57] <saiarcot895> lodenrogue: hence, 14.04 (year.month)
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> Lodenrogue : loads at the version number
[17:57] <JonathanLopez> actionparsnip; are you the leading helper-dude at #ubuntu?
[17:57] <lodenrogue> interesting
[17:58] <randomaussie> ActionParsnip: no i just mena configuring my adapters.. i can access everything and i have 2 ip adressed (one for each adapter) i just can configure my adapters
[17:58] <holstein> JonathanLopez: maybe a volunteer will be intertested in assisting you with that.. i use "share desktop" from skype and google hangouts for that functionality.. i would as omegle how you are supposed to do that
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> Jonathanlopez: I'm highest on launchpad
[17:58] <JonathanLopez> oh, that's interesting.
[17:58] <holstein> JonathanLopez: this channel is not for omegle support
[17:58] <JonathanLopez> ActionParsnip>holstein
[17:58] <JonathanLopez> holstein, this situation makes ubuntu-users leave ubuntu.
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> Randomaussie: sounds like you need a persistent route setting
[17:59] <JonathanLopez> I've seen many guys leaving ubuntu because linux sucks at streaming gifs thru webcam.
[17:59] <randomaussie> ActionParsnip
[17:59] <holstein> JonathanLopez: this has nothing to do with ubuntu, however...
[17:59] <JonathanLopez> I am just refreshing your senses, holstein.
[17:59] <holstein> JonathanLopez: i have never heard of streaming a gif through a webcam
[17:59] <JonathanLopez> since your mind is full 0x92.
[17:59] <randomaussie> ActionParsnip: i thought it was a driver thing... not a route thing
[17:59] <b00b00> can i do something like this: cat file_temp.txt |sed "s/\$VAR/`cat file_var_to_replace`/" > file.txt ?
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Randomaussie : make sure the IPs are in different subnets
[17:59] <holstein> !ot | JonathanLopez
[17:59] <JonathanLopez> holstein, do you know v4l2loopback?
[17:59] <holstein> JonathanLopez: i use desktop sharing for that
[17:59] <holstein> JonathanLopez: yes.. i use that in vlc
[18:00] <JonathanLopez> yes dude
[18:00] <JonathanLopez> v4l2loopback
[18:00] <JonathanLopez> can do that
[18:00] <JonathanLopez> and mplayer
[18:00] <Pici> !enter | JonathanLopez
[18:00] <FloodBot1> JonathanLopez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:00] <holstein> JonathanLopez: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=935247
[18:01] <randomaussie> ActionParsnip: no they arent.. because they are both responding to the same dhcp server... and i cant access the network settings in the gui to disable one of hte adapters
[18:01] <holstein> JonathanLopez: webcam studio is suggested http://www.ws4gl.org/webcamstudio-for-gnu-linux/download/installing-on-ubuntu
[18:01] <JonathanLopez> holstein, webcamstudio is fucked up
[18:01] <JonathanLopez> its saying "no output"
[18:01] <holstein> !language | JonathanLopez
[18:01] <JonathanLopez> how can I fix that
[18:01] <randomaussie> ActionParsnip: ut even when i unplug the wire for my lan and just use wireless i still cant open network seettings
[18:01] <b00b00> why i get this error: "sed: -e expression #1, char 9: unknown option to `s'" , for running this : "cat file_temp.txt |sed "s/\$VAR/`cat file_var_to_replace`/" > file.txt"
[18:02] <JonathanLopez> holstein, at the bottom, webcamstudio says "no output"
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Randomaussie : that's why then. Which interface is used if they both go to the same network.  Having both connected doesn’t make it faster
[18:02] <JonathanLopez> guys
[18:02] <JonathanLopez> have any of you guys know webcamstudio?
[18:03] <JonathanLopez> why does webcamstudio say "no output"
[18:03] <holstein> JonathanLopez: i dont need the functionality you seek in the web application you need it in, so i havent needed to do that.. this is not "webcamstudio" support either
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> Jonathanlopez : nobody knows.  Try asking later
[18:03] <holstein> !info webcamstudio
[18:03] <JonathanLopez> I can't do shit on webcamstudio cause it gives me this stupid thing, "no output"
[18:03] <JonathanLopez> lol
[18:03] <randomaussie> ActionParsnip: wasnt anythign about making it faster.... but before i did a ubuntu update i could have them both connected/active and pick a primary device... i cant do that now.. i cant do anything networky
[18:03] <JonathanLopez> wheres the webcamstudio support channel
[18:03] <holstein> JonathanLopez: please watch your language here, as i asked before
[18:03] <JonathanLopez> holstein; sorry
[18:03] <Ari-Yang> JonathanLopez, I think it's #webcamstudio ?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> Randomaussie : you are confusing routing so the packets go nowhere
[18:04] <JonathanLopez> lol
[18:04] <holstein> JonathanLopez: here is the link again to the webcam site http://www.ws4gl.org/
[18:04] <clue_h> there is no #webcamstudio room i checked lol
[18:04] <randomaussie> well i'm just using the wireless right now and i still have the same problem
[18:04] <JonathanLopez> lol
[18:04] <randomaussie> ActionParsnip: well i'm jst using hte wireless right now... and i still have hte problem
[18:04] <JonathanLopez> clue_h; let's travel thru the cloudy mountains of the internet.
[18:04] <JonathanLopez> and sail.
[18:04] <Ari-Yang> JonathanLopez, while you wait for someone to get to you, I suggest googling, you might find a solution
[18:05] <randomaussie> ActionParsnip: i have some kind of software/driver clash.. they are complaining about versions
[18:05] <JonathanLopez> me & clue-h are gonna go out for some boatsailing
[18:05] <holstein> !ot | JonathanLopez
[18:06] <varunendra> randomaussie, what kind of complain? Do you get some error message? (sorry if you already posted, I just came back)
[18:06] <b00b00> what is the right syntax for running command in sed for replace a word like this: sed "s/\$VAR/`cat file_var_to_replace`/"
[18:07] <clue_h> JonathanLopez, do you know of a sailing sim for ubuntu 12.04 lts?
[18:07] <varunendra> b00b00, don't escape the $ if you are using double quotes.
[18:07] <JonathanLopez> yes clue_h.
[18:08] <JonathanLopez> clue_h, do you got jabber
[18:08] <randomaussie> varunedra: my gui has lost the ability to change the settings, but both network devices are still working and allowing me internet acces
[18:08] <b00b00> varunendra: my problem is it working fine on ubuntu, but not in centos... any idea?
[18:08] <varunendra> randomaussie, do these interfaces also appear in /etc/network/interfaces file?
[18:09] <JonathanLopez> fuck you all
[18:09] <JonathanLopez> I WILL FUCK YOUR MOTHER
[18:09] <JonathanLopez> OHHHHHHHHHHH
[18:09] <JonathanLopez> FUCK YOUUUUUUU
[18:09] <FloodBot1> JonathanLopez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:09] <varunendra> b00b00, the best place to ask would be #centos then. I've no idea about it btw.
[18:09] <JonathanLopez> your mother ass
[18:09] <JonathanLopez> fucked by me
[18:09] <JonathanLopez> ooohhhh
[18:09] <FloodBot1> JonathanLopez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:09] <b00b00> ok, thanks
[18:11] <cipherboy> Question, anyone know how to get disk status (SMART/etc) on drives which don't support SMART?
[18:11] <randomaussie> varunendra: no they dont
[18:12] <clue_h> disk utility from the hud
[18:12] <clue_h> view smart status
[18:12] <cipherboy> clue_h, this drive doesn't support SMART for whatever reason.
[18:12] <OerHeks> cipherboy, not, same as you turn smart off, no tool can handle that
[18:12] <varunendra> randomaussie, using the default Network Manager?
[18:13] <whoever> hi all , weird my back usb ports work, as well as my front, but if i plug my webcam into the back usb , the webcam will not work, if i plug it into the fron usb it will work can someone assist
[18:13] <cipherboy> k, thanks, perhaps I will play with seeing if I can get fsck to check it and report back without changing.
[18:13] <whoever> i would like to have my webcam plugged into the back
[18:13] <randomaussie> varunendra: using default everything expect i downloaded the regular gnome interface.. every change for off the distro of 13.04 was from the main servers
[18:14] <Joe_S> Hi? I'm new to IRC and Ubuntu and im having trouble installing it.
[18:14] <clue_h> Joe_S, at what point does it become an issue in the installation process
[18:15] <randomaussie> varunendra: also switching back ot the default gui changes nothing
[18:15] <Joe_S> It says *Starting mount network filesystems then *stopping mount netword firesystems then ecpid: exiting then speech-dispather disabled; edit /etc/defualt/speetch-dispatcher then * Asking all remaining prosesses terminate, sorry if thats confusing i can get a picture
[18:16] <whoever> thats odd my camera just doesn't like one of the usb ports i just switched the usb my phone cord was in with my webcam
[18:16] <whoever> and it works now
[18:16] <Joe_S> If this helps, http://gyazo.com/95ee5bc66094831ef3974a09ca77d865
[18:18] <jaenie> Hello again... I've been able to install the nvidia drivers... I have separate desktops now, but the mouse will not move to the second desktop :(  the cursor, when move to the right towards "screen 1" just wraps back to the left of "screen 0"
[18:18] <jaenie> its been so frustrating... and I'm so close now!
[18:18] <clue_h> Joe_S, so youre installing ubuntu in a vm? it appears to hang at that point is this true?
[18:18] <jaenie> any ideas how to get the mouse to go to the 2nd screen?
[18:18] <Joe_S> Yes.
[18:19] <Joe_S> It also says [OK] next the text but Its cropped out.
[18:19] <clue_h> Have you considered installing ubuntu through virtualbox to see if it is an issue with the current software youre using to do this
[18:20] <Joe_S> No, i'm going to try that.
[18:21] <varunendra> randomaussie, please post the pastebin link to the output of : "nm-tool && cat /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf && ifconfig -a && nmcli con && nmcli nm"
[18:22] <blackshirt> !info root-system-bin
[18:22] <agliodbs> quick question: if a service start fails on ubuntu, where does it log why it failed?
[18:23] <clue_h> agliodbs, i'd try the kern.log
[18:24] <Joe_S> Ok its booting in VB.
[18:25] <agliodbs> clue_h: nothin'
[18:27] <clue_h> agliodbs, which service are we talking about
[18:27] <Joe_S> It worked! It says try/install Ubuntu, what would you recommend?
[18:27] <agliodbs> clue_h: pgbouncer
[18:27] <agliodbs> clue_h: it'
[18:27] <agliodbs> service pgbouncer start is exiting with success, but it's not creating a log file, and it's not running
[18:28] <R1ck> hey. anybody know if it is possible when using screen sharing (vine i think) in Ubuntu 12.04 whether it is possible to connect to a specific "monitor"? I have a dual-monitor setup, but when logging in with vnc from my 15" laptop it's very annoying to have to scroll for every little thing
[18:28] <clue_h> Joe_S, you could try it first to see what you feel and if you have enough disk space etc install.
[18:28] <Joe_S> Thank you clue :)
[18:29] <agliodbs> clue_h: if a service start fails before it gets to logging to the application log, where does the reason for failure get logged?
[18:33] <clue_h> agliodbs, i have to admit im not sure but i was just looking at the man pages for that process and it is not one i have used. it seems it wont start if the configuration file is not present or incomplete, sorry i can add no more
[18:33] <agliodbs> yeah, I'd just like to get the error message so I'd know what to fix
[18:34] <agliodbs> and the linux folks wonder why admins hate "service X start"
[18:34] <agliodbs> clue_h: thanks anyway!
[18:34] <clue_h> s'all good :]
[18:38] <usr13> agliodbs: I suppose it would depend on the service itself, and how it is configured,  whether it will log anything or not.
[18:38] <usr13> agliodbs: And how it is started etc.
[18:39] <usr13> agliodbs: (It's a bit of speculation since we do not know what the service is.)
[18:39] <agliodbs> usr13: what I'm saying is that if service can't get to the point of starting the service so that it does it's own logs, there should be a centralized location where service start failures get logged
[18:40] <agliodbs> usr13: pgbouncer, I said above
[18:43] <usr13> agliodbs:  You could do:   tail -f /var/log/syslog
[18:43] <usr13> and start it and see what you see.
[18:43] <agliodbs> usr13: so if the service start failure is being logged, it should be logged to syslog?
[18:44] <usr13> agliodbs: I don't know.
[18:44] <agliodbs> usr13: nobody does, apparently.  I strongly suspect that's because the answer is "nowhere"
[18:44] <usr13> agliodbs: You might want to look at the man file
[18:45] <usr13> agliodbs: "logfile - Specifies log file. Log file is kept open so after rotation kill -HUP or on console RELOAD; should be done. Note: On Windows machines, the service must be stopped and started.
[18:45] <usr13> Default: not set.
[18:46] <agliodbs> usr13: bingo
[18:46] <usr13> agliodbs: logfile = pgbouncer.log
[18:46] <usr13> pidfile = pgbouncer.pid
[18:47] <agliodbs> usr13: wait, which logfile are you talking about?
[18:47] <agliodbs> usr13: I already figured out why pgbouncer was broken -- it was a permissions issue.  I'm just really annoyed that there was no way to find that out from the service failure
[18:49] <usr13> auth_file = users.txt
[18:49] <usr13> admin_users = someuser
[18:50] <usr13> -u user -- Switch to the given user on startup.
[18:53] <clue_h> agliodbs, this channel may help #postgresql-apt
[18:53] <CezarySE> hello witam
[18:53] <usr13> agliodbs: If a service like "pgbouncer" has trouble starting, you could also try firing up it's scipt from a terminal and see if anything shows there.
[18:54] <usr13> agliodbs: ^^^^ Just FYI, (you already know what the problem is so.....)
[18:54] <agliodbs> usr13: like I said, I fixed the problem.  I'm just complaining about the opaqueness of upstart now.
[18:54] <usr13> agliodbs: I don't think it is a problem with upstart.
[18:55] <usr13> ... I mean, because it just runs a script.
[18:57] <DigeratiW>  question....my lock screen shows 24 hour time and I want it to show 12 hour time and I have set it to 12 hour in the settings
[18:57] <usr13> agliodbs: If the script is lacking in some way, the service has not been configured properly, or something to that effect, it is not upstart's job to trouble-shoot, it just runs scripts.
[18:57] <DigeratiW> any ideas?
[18:57] <studious> <DigeratiW: edit timezone
[18:58] <ClavierPerdu> q
[18:59] <ClavierPerdu> quit
[18:59] <usr13> Try /quiit  or /leave  or /exit
[18:59] <DigeratiW> i did that studious
[18:59] <usr13> For private channel /q
[18:59] <DigeratiW> from the unity menu, I select the gear and in there time and date, its correct
[19:08] <sylvester> hy all
[19:11] <negev> hi, i'm running 12.04.  my root partition shows at 100% full with 0 bytes available in df -h, but it's not because i can still write files to it
[19:11] <negev> inode usage is 1%
[19:11] <negev> tried rebooting and it's the same
[19:11] <negev> any ideas?
[19:12] <schoppenhauer> negev, did you run fsck?
[19:13] <OerHeks> negev delete some old kernels trough softwarecenter/synaptic
[19:13] <negev> i can't run fsck while root is mounted
[19:14] <negev> OerHeks: why would old kernels cause incorrect usage to be shown?
[19:14] <schoppenhauer> negev: livecd
[19:14] <negev> the box is remote
[19:14] <trism> DigeratiW: my guess would be it is controlled by the gnome key instead, try running dconf-editor, and changing org.gnome.desktop.interface clock-format
[19:14] <negev> and brand new, so unlikely to be corrupted
[19:15] <lonewulf85> Hello everyon I cannot boot into the normal Ubuntu 12.04 desktop. When I login I go directly to 2d HELP pleas....
[19:16] <puddy> hey all, if I'm a windows developer guy transitioning over to linux / ubuntu what should I know about working with ubuntu as a developer? Any decent resources to read from?
[19:17] <lonewulf85> puddy, You can do a google search for linux programming for beginners.
[19:18] <lonewulf85> Anyone please no other option then 2d at logon please help
[19:19] <usr13> negev: shutdown -rF    #To reboot and force filesystem check
[19:19] <lonewulf85> puddy, also if you are going to be developing programs for Ubuntu you might also want to look for as much info as you can find for .deb packages and dpkg
[19:19] <puddy> hm let me rephrase
[19:20] <puddy> i'm not going to be developing ubuntu apps per se, more like working on an ubuntu system developing web apps, so i think i need more of like a general user's guide for ubuntu that's geared towards someone who knows computers but not linux systems so well
[19:20] <clue_h> puddy http://tldp.org/ has alot of guides
[19:20] <usr13> negev: Correction:  sudo shutdown -F now
[19:21] <puddy> oooo sweet clue_h
[19:21] <puddy> thank you
[19:23] <lonewulf85> puddy, then in that case go to www.ubuntu.com download ubuntu along with wubi, I would go for the lts version the current lts is 12.04. Run the wubi file in windows and install ubuntu like a windows program then just explore ubuntu after the reboot. Get used to the look and feel of it then start with the usual html5 programming or what ever you like.
[19:23] <puddy> yeah sounds like a play lonewulf85
[19:23] <puddy> although i think i might install it in a vm, keep my main drive clean
[19:24] <puddy> sounds like a plan*
[19:24] <lonewulf85> puddy, good luck I will be starting web design in august. :)
[19:24] <rjdohnert> Hey guys how are you doing
[19:24] <puddy> lonewulf85: thanks.  I do web dev for a living, but on a windows stack. Kind of want to change things up for a side project - using python on a linux stack
[19:25] <clue_h> puddy cool ubuntu is great for using python, i never looked back
[19:25] <lonewulf85> puddy, Vmware is another great choice but I have found that with vm the ubuntu system seems to be a little slow.
[19:25] <cipherboy> puddy, however you do want to install it (personally I recommend full install, but that is me), but think about running a LAMP server.
[19:26] <puddy> cipherboy: linux / apache / mysql / php ?
[19:26] <lonewulf85> puddy, I have been using Ubuntu since the first the 8.04 release I still use windows a lot mostly because I need to for my CIS class.
[19:28] <clue_h> cipherboy, did you ask about smart config for your hard drive
[19:28] <clue_h> i tried sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda on mine to view it
[19:28] <agliodbs> usr13: right, I'm just saying that I should have to play a guessing game.  there's only two places I should have to look: some centralized system log, and the application's own log.  I shouldn't have to guess where else the service failure might have been logged
[19:29] <cipherboy> puddy,  yep.
[19:29] <cipherboy> clue_h, I did, but disk didn't support it. Turns out might be a different problem with the drive, currently dding it. 28h to copy..
[19:29] <clue_h> wow, good luck with it
[19:31] <_joey> what happened to ia32-libs package? I cannot install it.
[19:32] <mumpitze1> !multiarch
[19:33] <mumpitze1> _joey: well, distros are now multiarch capable so ia32libs is not needed anymore
[19:33] <rjdohnert> Any plymouth programmers in here today?
[19:35] <_joey> not needed by whom?
[19:35] <adamk> _joey: What error are you getting?  It's definitely available in 13.04.
[19:35] <_joey> The commercial application depends on i32-libs
[19:35] <_joey> IBM SPSS
[19:36] <_joey> ubuntu used to be a cool distro
[19:36] <_joey> now, it's just getting #*%$Y$
[19:37] <adamk> _joey: If you want help, answer the question, and stop being beligerant.
[19:37] <rjdohnert> Give OS4 OpenLinux a try, its Ubuntu without all the %$%^& http://www.os4online.com
[19:37] <mumpitze1> rjdohnert: please stop doing that if you want to stay around
[19:38] <checoimg> I like Ubuntu just like it is
[19:38] <_joey> adamk: dick-head, piss off
[19:39] <adamk> You're saying that to the one guy who actually tried to help you...  Nice.
[19:40] <rjdohnert> Well hell, I was going to pay someone to do a Plymouth theme for me, no takers guess I'll go somehwere else.  PEACE
[19:40] <studious> WARRRRRRR
[19:40] <studious> EVERYONE ATTACK EVERYONE, NOW!!!!
[19:41] <Swervz> Hi
[19:42] <Swervz> I installed the windows fonts to ubuntu, how can i get firefox to use them?
[19:43] <cipherboy> _joey, http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/ia32-libs perhaps, but http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/ia32-libs for sure.
[19:44] <cipherboy> Swervz, explain a bit more if you could. Firefox to use them how?
[19:45] <ezra-s> all ibm stuff is outdated, you probably are not supposed to use 13.04 with it
[19:45] <_joey> cipherboy: thanks
[19:45] <ezra-s> if the software is supported for ubuntu at all that is
[19:45] <cipherboy> _joey, no problem
[19:45] <Swervz> As the default font
[19:46] <cipherboy> ezra-s, most of the more popular ones work, lotus notes, sametime, etc. Not sure about some of these lesser common packages.
[19:46] <Swervz> I got them from sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[19:46] <ezra-s> cipherboy, work? you're kidding right?
[19:46] <cipherboy> Swervz, so they show up say, in an office suite or Gedit for use?
[19:47] <ezra-s> cipherboy, they work with lots of touching
[19:47] <Swervz> yes
[19:47] <Swervz> What is the  default font in windows
[19:47] <cipherboy> ezra-s, works is a loose term.
[19:47] <Swervz> ?
[19:47] <ezra-s> including repackaging and removing dependencies, installing packages manually, etc..
[19:47] <ezra-s> cipherboy, you bet :)
[19:47] <Guerrilla_> what does use secure connection SSL do
[19:47] <Guerrilla_> hide ip
[19:48] <Guerrilla_> please PM me with answer
[19:48] <Guerrilla_> i've gotta run
[19:48] <FloodBot1> Guerrilla_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:48] <ezra-s> cipherboy, internally they probably already have packages for ubuntu 12.10 64 bits
[19:48] <ezra-s> but those are not the ones you can download from ibm.com
[19:49] <cipherboy> Swervz, if you go to Firefox's Preferences box (Edit->Preferences) and then go to content, you can see fonts and colors.
[19:49] <Swervz> ahh thanks
[19:49] <ezra-s> Guerrilla_, what are you talking about exactly?
[19:50] <cipherboy> Swervz, you could set it there from your preferences, and if you go to advanced, you can have more options there. However, this only does stuff if websites don't set a default font, so for most of the internet, you won't see any changse.
[19:50] <lonewulf85> Hello I added a ppa it froze my system then I had to boot into ubuntu-2d to get rid of the ppa and fix my system now ubuntu is not available at login only ubuntu-2d help
[19:50] <cipherboy> *changes
[19:51] <Swervz> ok thanks
[19:51] <cipherboy> Swervz, However, if you really really insist on using which ever fonts you choose on webpages, you could override them all (content->advanced, and dechecking the box which says allow pages to choose their own fonts), but the web looks funny when you do that...
[19:51] <Swervz> ik
[19:51] <cipherboy> lonewulf85, which ppa?
[19:51] <ezra-s> lonewulf85, ppa source files live probably under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ remove it and then remove the packages you installed from that ppa
[19:51] <Swervz> these g2g D:
[19:52] <lonewulf85> cipherboy, from this link http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/live-wallpaper-for-ubuntu
[19:52] <cipherboy> ezra-s, not sure what they have or don't internally, as I don't actually use it myself.
[19:53] <cipherboy> lonewulf85, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get remove livewallpaper livewallpaper-config livewallpaper-indicator
[19:54] <cipherboy> Should remove the packages you installed, and then upon logging out / rebooting / whatever you prefer, you should have a working system, although live wallpaper won't be installed.
[19:54] <lonewulf85> cipherboy, Yes i did that i even ran ppa-purge
[19:54] <cipherboy> Does it work, or still having issues?
[19:55] <lonewulf85> I can boot into the 2d but not the 3d would uninstalling then re installing graphics drivers help
[19:55] <lonewulf85> cipherboy, or maybe re doing xorg.conf
[19:56] <cipherboy> Depends, is there a reason why you can't boot into 3d (error message, drops you to 2d, or something else of the sort)?
[19:56] <adamk> lonewulf85: What video card do you have?  Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file?
[19:57] <lonewulf85> nope just when I log in I get the 2d desktop, when trying to select i only get the 2d option.
[19:57] <lonewulf85> adamk, I have a radeon card
[19:59] <adamk> lonewulf85: You installed proprietary drivers for this card?
[19:59] <lonewulf85> adamk, yes one moment for the pastebin link.
[20:00] <lonewulf85> adamk, http://pastebin.com/QLGcGSCC
[20:00] <ambush276> hey guys: i am having an issue using nttcp
[20:00] <ambush276> for some reason i am getting connection refused?
[20:00] <ambush276> errno=111
[20:01] <adamk> lonewulf85: Ummm..  That's not the full log file...
[20:01] <ambush276> is there something i have to do for setup
[20:01] <ambush276> im doing nttcp -u -r ip:port
[20:01] <adamk> lonewulf85: Just install pastebinit and run 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[20:02] <lonewulf85> adamk, one moment
[20:03] <cipherboy> ambush276, do you get the error trying to connect to say, a web server (ie, can you successfully connect to a known good port)?
[20:03] <ambush276> cipherboy no
[20:03] <ambush276> cipherboy im trying to connect to another nttcp listener
[20:03] <ambush276> which is running
[20:03] <ambush276> i put it in UDP mode
[20:03] <raulsh> hi
[20:04] <ambush276> with -u
[20:05] <raulsh> rythbox seems to have problem playing last.fm , I created my account added singers yet it shows me their faces on rythmbox application
[20:05] <raulsh> but no idea how to play songs
[20:05] <raulsh> what's the deal?
[20:06] <cipherboy> ambush276, sorry, shot in the dark said nttcp was something like to act like say, telnet to be used to test tcp ports..not actually used it, sorry.
[20:06] <ambush276> no worries cipherboy
[20:06] <ambush276> i am not sure why its refusing
[20:07] <ambush276> its just throwing an error cipherboy from the beginning
[20:07] <glitch256> hello all  i am running ubuntu 13.04 and im trying to  figure out how to  set it up so that when my  phone tries to connect to xbmc  it will start xbmc
[20:07] <ambush276> like its not even trying to connect on this one box but on my other box its working fine
[20:07] <ambush276> all i did was sudo apt-get install nttcp
[20:08] <cipherboy> Hm, explain what you are trying to do, give me a moment to pull down the package and play with it.
[20:10] <deng_cn1> :)
[20:10] <cipherboy> ambush276, what are you running on the partner machine? I think you need to run nttcp -i -u, no?
[20:11] <Carraway> vague question - what's the site that has clever bash snippets that are super useful? You can vote on each code snippet … I think the colorscheme is black & green
[20:11] <raulsh> no one knows what problem is with the last.fm app
[20:12] <lonewulf85> adamk, sorry it took so long but here pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:12] <raulsh> every station I tried gives me - starting radio failed. unkown error.
[20:12] <ozzloy> Carraway, http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/9024/generate-an-xkcd-936-style-4-word-password
[20:12] <Carraway> yessssss
[20:13] <Carraway> thanks ozzloy
[20:13] <ozzloy> np
[20:13] <glitch256> raulsh:  i use last fm for finger printing aka song ids but unless you have a paid membership you wont get it to act as a "radio"
[20:13] <ambush276> yes
[20:13] <raulsh> what do you mean glitch256 , so it's not really free yet it's publicized as free?
[20:13] <adamk> lonewulf85: ? You haven't actually given us the URL...
[20:14] <glitch256> raulsh: after that i cant tell you anything
[20:14] <glitch256> you can  use it as a radio through  the browser but  to access it through a app where ever you go   yes its paid
[20:15] <lonewulf85> adamk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5878624/ sorry
[20:15] <glitch256> sorry about all my double spacing
[20:16] <raulsh> ok how to listen it on browser? do I need more plugins for my browsers?
[20:16] <glitch256> no  just go to last.fm and search and play there
[20:16] <glitch256> raulsh: no  just go to last.fm and search and play there
[20:17] <glitch256> raulsh: hope i helped
[20:18] <raulsh> thanks
[20:18] <raulsh> I'll figure out rest
[20:19] <adamk> lonewulf85: Nothing in the log file really jumps out at me as being 'wrong'.  Can you run 'glxinfo | pastebinit' and give the URL?
[20:19] <raulsh> but if it was all about going to browser then I was better with myspace
[20:20] <lonewulf85> adamk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5878648/
[20:21] <glitch256> reposting since nolonger on viewable screen " i am running ubuntu 13.04 and im trying to  figure out how to  set it up so that when my  phone tries to connect to xbmc my computer will see that its not started and  it will start xbmc
[20:22] <adamk> lonewulf85: There's nothing wrong with your drivers.  Nothing to prevent unity from working in 3D.  Is gnome-shell installed?
[20:22] <lonewulf85> adamk, nope
[20:22] <adamk> lonewulf85: Is unity installed?
[20:22] <lonewulf85> adamk, should it be?
[20:22] <lonewulf85> adamk, unity is
[20:23] <lonewulf85> adamk, I think let me check
[20:23] <_joey> could someone link me to libxaw 32 bit deb package please
[20:24] <adamk> lonewulf85: gnome-shell isn't needed unless you want to use it.  I'm not sure why unity would be installed, but the display manager doesn't show that as a desktop option. If you log in normally, and run 'ps ax | grep unity', is it running?
[20:26] <glitch256> adamk: unity  shows up as ubuntu desktop in the selector every thing else shows up as wht they are
[20:26] <lonewulf85> adamk, I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5878660/
[20:26] <lusy> hello
[20:27] <lusy> does anyone know how to add the date on the top bar next to the time in gnome?
[20:27] <wentknweqt> hey guys, im trying to upgrade an encrypted release. is there any good way to stop do-release-upgrade from running grub and then letting me run it manually? also, will this work on an encrypted root install?
[20:27] <adamk> lonewulf85: Is there just an "Ubuntu" session option in the launcher?
[20:28] <lonewulf85> adamk, I only get ubuntu-2d
[20:29] <achmode> why is ubuntu running so slow in virtualbox recently?
[20:29] <OerHeks> !find libxaw
[20:29] <lonewulf85> achmode, I find that is usually the case have you tried wubi?
[20:30] <achmode> lonewulf85: does wubi let me run ubuntu virtually?
[20:30] <OerHeks> _joey, i think libxa7 is what you want, or libxaw7-dev
[20:30] <adamk> achmode: What do you mean by "recently"?
[20:30] <lusy> does anyone know how to add the date on the top bar next to the time in gnome desktop environment?
[20:30] <ifaesfu> hi, can you uninstall properly an application that was compiled from source to install it?
[20:30] <cipherboy> ifaesfu, depends on the application, which one specifically are you talking about?
[20:31] <achmode> adamk: Im running 13.04
[20:31] <ifaesfu> freeciv-2.3.4
[20:31] <_joey> OerHeks: it's 64bit
[20:31] <lonewulf85> achmode, It lets you run it as a windows program but as tho you have it installed natively.
[20:31] <_joey> on distro 64
[20:31] <k1l_> achmode: no, wubi will not do that
[20:31] <ifaesfu> in 12.04lts
[20:31] <adamk> lonewulf85: Do you know what display manager you are running?
[20:31] <lonewulf85> achmode, plus if you hate it you can remove it like any windows program.
[20:32] <k1l_> achmode: but if you want to talk about speed dont use wubi
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> lonewulf85  but by hating wubi, let's hope you won't hate ubuntu
[20:32] <adamk> achmode: In VirtualBox you are not likely to get decent 3D acceleration, which Unity really needs.\
[20:32] <OerHeks> _joey then build it from source
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> achmode   but by hating wubi, let's hope you won't hate ubuntu
[20:32] <lonewulf85> adamk, It is supposed to be unity I am in unity but just the 2d version.
[20:32] <_joey> OerHeks: the building environment is 64bit
[20:33] <kboodu> lusy: Try right-clicking on the time, Selecting "Time and Date Settings" and select the "Clock" tab.  You should see it on there (at least under 12.04..should be the same on other versions but I haven't tried it).
[20:33] <adamk> _joey: Install libxaw7:i386 if you want the 32-bit version.
[20:33] <lonewulf85> MonkeyDust, yeah that is what I meant was if he does not like ubuntu then he can remove it like any windows application.
[20:33] <adamk> lonewulf85: Unity is the desktop environment, not the display manager.
[20:34] <lonewulf85> adamk, I believe it is lightdm
[20:34] <_joey> adamk: there is no libxaw7:i386 unless I am not using correct syntax with apt-get
[20:34] <bijo> how can i share ubuntu laptop's files to android phone
[20:34] <bijo> via wifi
[20:34] <lonewulf85> bijo, doe it have to be wifi?
[20:34] <OerHeks> _joey, you might need to add x86 architecture, "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386"
[20:35] <bijo> yes, my lap has wifi
[20:35] <kboodu> bijo: Why  not connect with a USB cable?
[20:35] <_joey> adamk: the question was where to get libxaw7:i386
[20:35] <bijo> have no data cable now.
[20:35] <adamk> _joey: It's in the normal 13.04 repos, accessible via apt-get.  I don't know a direct URL to it.
[20:35] <_joey> OerHeks: adding --add-architecture i386 while installing amd64
[20:35] <xangua> bijo: there is a cool app called: airdroid
[20:35] <_joey> ?
[20:36] <xangua> kboodu: sometimes you don't have a usb cable at hand ;)
[20:36] <lusy> kboodu, Selecting "Time and Date Settings" and select the "Clock" tab. gnome desktop environment does not make me see the date but only the time
[20:36] <bijo> ok. let me check
[20:36] <OerHeks> _joey, ? what makes you think that?
[20:36] <_joey> adamk: it's not in the "nortmal" repo on my default install
[20:36] <_joey> Jesus...
[20:36] <kboodu> lusy: What version of Ubuntu?
[20:36] <adamk> lonewulf85: Sorry, not sure what's going on.  In lightdm, you should see an "Ubuntu" session which should drop you into Unity 3D.
[20:37] <lonewulf85> adamk, I will try to reinstall my driver and see if that helps.
[20:38] <lusy> kboodu,  12.04
[20:38] <kboodu> xangua: True.  Just asking the question
[20:38] <InsaneGene> guys, any free vpn tool for ubuntu
[20:38] <InsaneGene> or VPN server ?
[20:38] <bigDoggy> InsaneGene openvpn
[20:38] <kboodu> lusy: You should have on the Clock settings tab "Date and Month" which will show on your clock
[20:38] <InsaneGene> bigDoggy, apt-get install openvpn ??
[20:38] <bigDoggy> InsaneGene yup yup
[20:39] <InsaneGene> bigDoggy, ty
[20:39] <lonewulf85> bijo, If you have a usb cable this works grate http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html
[20:39] <xangua> kboodu: i think by gnome, lusy means gnome-shell
[20:39] <cipherboy> lonewulf85, you have pastebinit installed right?
[20:40] <cipherboy> find /usr/share/xsession | pastebinit
[20:40] <lonewulf85> cipherboy, yes i do.
[20:40] <kboodu> xangua: Thanks.  Is that correct lusy?
[20:40] <lusy> gnome shell
[20:40] <InsaneGene> bigDoggy, what next do I need to have a VPN server IP or it finds one for me??
[20:41] <kboodu> lusy: Have you seen this URL and will it fix your problem?  (http://askubuntu.com/questions/83597/how-do-i-show-date-next-to-time-in-the-panel-with-gnome-shell)
[20:41] <bigDoggy> InsaneGene http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html
[20:41] <lonewulf85> cipherboy, I get this find: `/usr/share/xsession': No such file or directory You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[20:42] <cipherboy> lonewulf85, whoops, add an s: /usr/share/xsessions
[20:42] <cipherboy> my bad
[20:42] <_CookieMonster_> Hi everyone, having problems with my xorg.conf again
[20:42] <lonewulf85> cipherboy, I got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5878707/
[20:43] <_CookieMonster_> Screen resolution is still not being set
[20:44] <cipherboy> lonewulf85, notice line 8... /usr/share/xsessions/ubuntu.desktop. You at least have the ability, somewhere, somehow, to be able run it in the sense that it should be telling the dm (lightdm) that it is installed and able to be used.
[20:44] <cipherboy> alas, have to go, bbl
[20:44] <_CookieMonster_> Is bekks here?
[20:44] <excesseye> 4/quit
[20:45] <Rarrikin1> How do I find out which file in /dev corresponds to a USB drive?
[20:45] <bigDoggy> My vps won't boot. I get to this point http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=df7xqe&s=5 ad it freezes. no detectable errors other than that (pre logging and can't get to dmesg). debconf-show -> http://sprunge.us/MAfM
[20:45] <lusy> kboodu,  where can I find the tool gconf-editor
[20:46] <kboodu> lusy: sudo apt-get install gconf-editor
[20:46] <_CookieMonster_> Can anyone see any flaws in this xorg.conf? http://pastebin.com/EhqSd1ga
[20:46] <kboodu> lusy: Side note, apt-cache search tool will allow you to do some searching for utilities.
[20:47] <kboodu> lusy: Another note - that's from the command line, if you weren't aware. ;)
[20:47] <adamk> _CookieMonster_: You are selecting a PreferredMode, but have no modeline for it....
[20:48] <adamk> _CookieMonster_: Does Xorg even see 1366x768 as an option if you have no xorg.conf file?
[20:48] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: Hi, what do you mean if I have no xorg.conf ?
[20:48] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: There's an xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[20:49] <adamk> Not sure I can make it clearer...  If you don't have an xorg.conf file on your system, does 1366x768 show up as a resolution...  By default, there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file on any recent version of Ubuntu.
[20:49] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: Ah I see what you mean, no - there's no 1366x768 without xorg.conf
[20:50] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: Yesterday I was told to remove the mode line after that contradicted the vertical refresh line - so I deleted both of them
[20:50] <adamk> _CookieMonster_: OK, so to use that resolution, you need to define the modeline for it in your xorg.conf file. Ad this line in the Monitor section:
[20:50] <adamk> Modeline "1368x768_60.00"   85.25  1368 1440 1576 1784  768 771 781 798 -hsync +vsync
[20:50] <adamk> _CookieMonster_: D'oh, ignore that...
[20:50] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: I was told by bekks yesterday that because the vertical refresh range was 55-75, 85.25 couldn't fit
[20:51] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: I'm resorting to xorg.conf after numerous broken systems trying to install AMD drivers for my HD 5450
[20:51] <adamk> _CookieMonster_: OK, well you'll still need to put in a Modeline...
[20:51] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: I can't find any information on the ranges for the refreshes on the manufacture's website
[20:52] <_CookieMonster_> on the monitor information it's 45 V and 60 H
[20:52] <_CookieMonster_> and that's the only information the manufacture - acer - gives
[20:53] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: Should I insert the modeline you gave me?
[20:53] <adamk> _CookieMonster_: Normally all you need to generate a modeline (as I did) use the horizonal and vertical resolutions, and the refresh rate.  When I use 1366 768 60 for cvt, that modeline is what I get.
[20:53] <adamk> _CookieMonster_: You will need to adjust your preferredmode to match the name of the Modeline.
[20:54] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: I used cvt yesterday, and like I mentioned, it contradicted another bit so I removed both
[20:54] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: What do you mean adjust the preferredmode ?
[20:55] <adamk> _CookieMonster_: See how the modeline name I gave you is different from the one in the PrefferedMode line of your xorg.conf file?
[20:55] <adamk> 1366x768_60.00 vs 1368x768_60.00
[20:56] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: Yes?
[20:56] <adamk> Well they need to match.
[20:56] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: So do I just change preferredmode to modeline ?
[20:58] <San1ty> Hi, Does everything in /etc/init.d get started on boot? I created a script that works but I wonder if I need to do something else to have it start on boot?
[20:58] <adamk> _CookieMonster_: The names need to match.  ie: http://pastebin.com/0N7hKigt
[20:58] <mehwork> what does ubuntu run better on, an intel or amd?
[20:58] <adamk> _CookieMonster_: BTW, where did you come up with that xorg.conf file?
[20:59] <Dr_willis> mehwork,  You mean CPU wise? it shouldent really matter
[20:59] <mehwork> yeah
[20:59] <mehwork> ok
[21:00] <quadHelix> San1ty :: Depends on your run level really, if you look at /etc/rc*.d you can see what runlevels the daemons are configured for.  If you want to add your own command at startup look into rc.local
[21:00] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: It's kind of been a collaboration from several people on IRC
[21:02] <_CookieMonster_> mehwork: Depends on who you like better in reality - they both perform the same, and unless you're going to push the CPU, you won't be able to tell the difference
[21:02] <_CookieMonster_> Adamk: Does the position of the modeline matter?
[21:02] <JonathanLopez> Good morning.
[21:02] <JonathanLopez> This is Jonathan Lopez.
[21:02] <JonathanLopez> I have discovered a 0day vulnerability in Java,
[21:02] <adamk> _CookieMonster_: It just ask to be in the Monitor section.
[21:02] <JonathanLopez> with click-to-run bypass.
[21:02] <JonathanLopez> do NOT install Java.a
[21:02] <JonathanLopez> at all costs.
[21:02] <San1ty> quadHelix: I was following a guide that ivolved writing a startup script and adding it to /etc/init.d, I proceeded to test /etc/init.d/teamspeak start and it works as advertised. I'm just not sure on the autostart part. is adding a line to rc.local the way? the guide mentioned something like: chkconfig --add teamspeak
[21:02] <JonathanLopez> San1ty, shut the fuck up.
[21:02] <FloodBot1> JonathanLopez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:02] <JonathanLopez> now, yes.
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> !ops | JonathanLopez
[21:03] <JonathanLopez> do NOT install Java, I have discovered a java 0day which can allow me to hack almost anybody running Java.
[21:03] <JonathanLopez> wilee-nilee; do you run java, sir?
[21:03] <JonathanLopez> mind giving me your IP? I can own you if you want.
[21:03] <elky> JonathanLopez: please learn about responsible disclosure
[21:03] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: Sorry for wasting your time, but should this work? http://pastebin.com/QC0q72N5
[21:03] <Dr_willis> sounds more like random spam to me then any disclosure.
[21:04] <zinedine> test
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> yep, someone missed their meds. ;)
[21:05] <elky> Dr_willis: i don't believe it for a second either
[21:05] <adamk> _CookieMonster_: Again, do you see how the modeline you have defined is 1368x768_60.00 but the one you have as PreferredMode is 1366x768_60.00?  They *have* to match like in the monitor section I pastebined above.
[21:05] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: Damn you've got good eyes. I didn't see that
[21:06] <adamk> _CookieMonster_: I've just been looking at xorg.conf files (and XF86Config files) for a very very very long time :-)
[21:06] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: Right time to give this a go.#
[21:07] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: Do you like carrots? :P
[21:07] <adamk> Can't stand them :-)
[21:07] <_CookieMonster_> adamk: You must be good at spot the difference
[21:08] <Agd_Scorp> Hi.
[21:08] <quadHelix> sanity:: IIRC chkconfig is a redhat thing.  Ubuntu uses sysv-rc-conf <service> <on|off>
[21:09] <Agd_Scorp> _CookieMonster_: Please notice that this is a #ubuntu support channel, take your general-discussions somewhere else. This is not the place for it.
[21:09] <oO0Oo> Hi; i accidentally ran "ufw enable" and now I cant access server via SSH; what can i do now?
[21:09] <quadHelix> sanity:: or update-rc.d
[21:09] <Agd_Scorp> o000o: run 'ufw disable'.
[21:09] <_CookieMonster__> adamk: I did sudo restart lightdm but nothing has changed :/
[21:10] <Agd_Scorp> o000o: If that doesn't work out either, I recommend that you should uninstall ufw and then restart.
[21:10] <quadHelix> sanity on a default install of ubuntu - to run teamspeak in your gui -- update-rc.d teamspeak enable 5
[21:10] <oO0Oo> Agd_Scorp: I dont have access!!
[21:10] <_CookieMonster__> adamk: Oh just realised further down I need to change the 6 to 8 again
[21:10] <holstein> or just allow the ssh port through the firewall oO0Oo
[21:10] <_CookieMonster__> adamk: Try again
[21:10] <San1ty> quadHelix: Thanks a lot, I'll look into adding a command to /etc/init.d/rc.local
[21:11] <holstein> oO0Oo: if you have locked yourself out, you'll need to ask the host or whomever is in charge of your hosting.. there is no "back door"
[21:11] <oO0Oo> holstein: Without SSH ; How?
[21:11] <adamk> _CookieMonster__: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[21:11] <Agd_Scorp> o000o: run /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[21:11] <holstein> oO0Oo: manually.. at the machine.. if that is not an option, then you have locked yourself out
[21:11] <oO0Oo> holstein: Oh; OK thanks
[21:12] <Agd_Scorp> holstein: Are you a computer-science student, by any chance?
[21:12] <Agd_Scorp> or have been taking IT-courses?
[21:12] <Agd_Scorp> I am just curious.
[21:12] <holstein> Agd_Scorp: no
[21:12] <Agd_Scorp> I see.
[21:12] <San1ty> quadHelix: Can I just add "service teamspeak start" as a line to rc.local?
[21:12] <__CookieMonster_> adamk: Hmm does sudo restart lightdm work? This is my xorg.conf --> http://pastebin.com/vBGM6p0i
[21:12] <oO0Oo> Agd_Scorp: can VSphere do that?
[21:13] <holstein> Agd_Scorp: we can discuss in the offtopic channel, if needed
[21:13] <adamk> __CookieMonster_: Please do the same with /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
[21:13] <__CookieMonster_> adamk: I'm presuming I'm sudo gedit'ing that too?
[21:13] <holstein> oO0Oo: if the host has left you a back door, then use it.. usually you can get in somehow.. it will be host specific
[21:13] <quadHelix> sanity - that is possible.  i would say best case would be to run `update-rc.d teamspeak enable 5`
[21:13] <adamk> __CookieMonster_: Just run 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'.  It might require you to install pastebinit.
[21:13] <Agd_Scorp> holstein, what's the offtopic channel?
[21:14] <oO0Oo> holstein: the server is a VPS and I have VSphere panel
[21:14] <k1l_> Agd_Scorp: #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:14] <Agd_Scorp> thanks k1l_
[21:14] <oO0Oo> holstein: anyway I'll ask admin; thanks
[21:14] <San1ty> quadHelix: why is update-rc.d better then rc.local?
[21:15] <holstein> oO0Oo: sure.. vsphere panel is not an ubuntu application.. so, again, you'll need to ask your host how to get in once you have locked yourself out.. i have seen "generate temporary access" or whatever
[21:15] <__CookieMonster_> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5878802/
[21:15] <holstein> oO0Oo: this is not specific to any or all version of ubuntu or linux.. it will be specific to your situation, and the way the host and you have it configured
[21:15] <holstein> Agd_Scorp: #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:15] <oO0Oo> holstein: thanks
[21:15] <Agd_Scorp> I am there, holstein.
[21:16] <CodeHak> Hi, what's up?
[21:16] <quadHelix> sanity - i just read update-rc.d is not stable.  I apologize.  You are correct rc.local is best bet
[21:16] <adamk> __CookieMonster_: I'm going to seriously dumb down your xorg.conf file.  It's just crazy and 99% of it isn't needed.
[21:16] <__CookieMonster_> adamk: :D
[21:17] <hoodoowoo> I've just asked this question in #linux, with no love, but then I realized that ecryptfs may be more ubuntu specific.  So, I ask it here:
[21:18] <hoodoowoo> If it's not the right place, please redirect me as appropriate: I'm messing with ecryptfs on a new install of a Raring.  Problem: when I remove a user (e.g. # userdel -r joe), and add the user (# useradd joe), running "# passwd joe" returns "Permission denied; password unchanged".
[21:18] <CodeHak> You're best of droping into recovery/terminal on boot and making the necessary changes. Then rebooting into the GUI.
[21:18] <adamk> __CookieMonster_: This should be all you need for your /etc/X11/xorg.conf : http://pastebin.com/KSKDU1tx
[21:18] <Agd_Scorp> "a warning is no error."
[21:18] <hoodoowoo> Looking in auth.log (paraphrasing here):
[21:18] <hoodoowoo> passwd[10131]: pam_ecryptfs: "...NULL passphrase; nothing to do".
[21:18] <CodeHak> *off
[21:18] <hoodoowoo> passwd[10131]: pam_unix: "... password changed ..."
[21:18] <hoodoowoo> passwd[10131]: "Error attempting to open ...joe/.ecryptfs/... for writing"
[21:18] <San1ty> quadHelix: and is adding plain text "service teamspeak start" as a line legit or do I need to write something special?
[21:18] <hoodoowoo> So, it appears that password is successfully changed, but then passwd also tries to setup ecryptfs.  Why?  If I do this same procedure for another user (say, 'testtt'), it works just fine, with no attempt to setup an ecryptfs.  Can any shed some light on this interaction for me?  Note that I remove all mentions of joe from /etc via "grep -ri joe /etc"
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin > hoodoowoo
[21:19] <__CookieMonster_> adamk: Wait so it's just the monitor section? You're deleting everything else?
[21:19] <adamk> __CookieMonster_: Absolutely.  Xorg autoconfigures nearly everything.  The only thing it's failing on for you is the monitor resolution, so that's the *only* thing you need to specify.
[21:20] <CodeHak> Mind explaining to me what you're trying to do? Do you have a permissions fault?
[21:20] <adamk> __CookieMonster_: Having said that, back up your current xorg.conf file just in case :-)
[21:20] <__CookieMonster_> adamk: OK well here goes :D
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> !who > CodeHak
[21:20] <hoodoowoo> wilee-nilee: I've generally used the metric of more than 3 lines for pastebin.  This was exactly 3 lines.  If the guidelines are posted and I missed them, apologies.
[21:21] <CodeHak> With regards to xorg, uninstall, purge the graphics driver then reinstall and regenerate xorg.
[21:21] <CookieMonster_> adamk: You are the (wo)man
[21:21] <CookieMonster_> adamk: I'm assuming it's a man :P
[21:21] <adamk> Definitely a man.  And thanks :-)
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> hoodoowoo  i'm not familiar with it myself, but maybe this helps https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/ecryptfs.html
[21:22] <CodeHak> Pain in the ass especially when moving hard drives between different machines.
[21:22] <CookieMonster_> adamk: But don't keep your hopes up too high ... last time I was here I celebrated... and then after a restart it went back to normal :(
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> hoodoowoo, It is just that if you need to post errors, anything mainly other than your words description pastebin it, so you are not taking over the gui
[21:22] <adamk> CookieMonster_: Sorry you had such problems getting it working when it was something so simple.  Not everyone here is as knowledgeable with Xorg as I am :-)
[21:22] <CookieMonster_> adamk: Should I try restarting to see if this has worked
[21:22] <adamk> CookieMonster_: It'll still work but, by all means, give it a shot :-)
[21:23] <CookieMonster_> adamk: Are you on IRC quite a bit? I may need you again in the future :S
[21:23] <quadHelix> San1ty just add the sudo service teamspeak start to rc.local
[21:23] <adamk> CookieMonster_: I'm nearly always logged in, but not always at my desk :-)
[21:23] <CodeHak> Terminal is your friend, lol. :D
[21:23] <CookieMonster_> adamk: But usually on at this time?
[21:23] <quadHelix> test it, may not need sudo- I forget what user that runs as
[21:24] <San1ty> quadHelix: so rc.local does not get executed as root? do I need the sudo statement?
[21:24] <CookieMonster_> adamk: Who know's maybe I won't need you in the near future - which, in a good way, I hope not :P
[21:24] <adamk> CookieMonster_: This is actually a little later than usual.  Typically 8 AM till 4:30 PM EST.
[21:24] <adamk> CookieMonster_: Sometimes a few hours later, if I'm at home.
[21:25] <CookieMonster_> adamk: Oh right that's fine, I'm on after 11AM est if i've done my conversions correctly.
[21:25] <ambush276> hey guys i had a question using nttcp. I was wondering how can i send a text message from client to server
[21:25] <San1ty> quadHelix: Googled it, I do not need sudo! Thanks you have been a great help! Do you want some bitcoin?
[21:25] <ambush276> server is running : ntcp -u -i
[21:25] <CookieMonster_> adamk: Anyway thanks so much.
[21:25] <ambush276> client is running ntcp -s MESSAGE -u IP
[21:25] <usr13> San1ty: FYI:  rc.local does get executed as root.
[21:25] <adamk> CookieMonster_: Glad to help.
[21:25] <ambush276> the client responds with two lines of formatted numbers while the server just stays blank
[21:25] <usr13> San1ty: (No sudo needed)
[21:26] <quadHelix> sanity - lol no, buy your significant other some thing nice :)
[21:26] <Cookie_Monster> adamk: Restarted X and it works :D
[21:26] <San1ty> usr13, quadHelix: just rebooted my vm and the service got executed at startup, great success! :).
[21:26] <usr13> San1ty: Very good.
[21:27] <Cookie_Monster> adamk: Well hopefully that's put MONTHS of broken systems to an end. Oh and also, if I upgrade to 13.04, my xorg.conf doesn't change right?
[21:28] <adamk> Cookie_Monster: Correct, it will stay the same.
[21:28] <hoodoowoo> MonkeyDust: thanks for the link; unfortunately that's a generic howto, which is seemingly not what I need.  I seem to have a rather specific problem.
[21:28] <Cookie_Monster> adamk: Well I'm not planning to upgrade from 12.10 until 13.10 is out
[21:29] <Cookie_Monster> adamk: You've made my day :) Also can you relink me to the xorg.conf you gave
[21:30] <ambush276> anyone?
[21:31] <CodeHak> Hello.
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> Cookie_Monster  mind: 13.04 support ends in january 2014, you'd have to upgrade again
[21:33] <quadHelix> san1ty : grats!
[21:33] <Cookie_Monster> MonkeyDust: I don't intend on using 13.04
[21:33] <gonfi> is there a guide for how to configure a public dedicated ip (not local, not 192.168) in my ubuntu virtualbox guest os? (failed with google, and the guys in #vbox referred me to this channel)
[21:33] <Cookie_Monster> MonkeyDust: I'm only going to use it to upgrade to 13.10
[21:33] <adamk> Cookie_Monster: http://pastebin.com/KSKDU1tx
[21:33] <adamk> Got to go..
[21:34] <Cookie_Monster> adamk: Never mind, found it :P Ok thanks, cya
[21:34] <holstein> gonfi: you would set it up like a normal machine on your network, with a bridged connection, so that it gets a normal 192.168.x.x ip, then forward the port through on your router
[21:34] <gonfi> i have no router.
[21:35] <gonfi> i have no local network, it's a single machine with a single dedicated ip, plus a separate unrelated dedicated ip for the vm. for an ftp server, so magic routing is no good cause of the 2nd connection
[21:35] <holstein> gonfi: i would get a router, it would make things simpler..
[21:35] <CodeHak> You could bridge the main ethernet or wireless connection with the virtual box network adapter.
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> gonfi  you need a router for NATting, otherwise, use 'bridged' mode in your vbox settings, to create a bridge to the existing network
[21:36] <holstein> gonfi: this is not "magic" routing.. this is what you will need to setup manually.. you have basically a seperate machine on your nework that you need to connect to
[21:36] <gonfi> is there a guide?
[21:36] <holstein> gonfi: yes
[21:36] <gonfi> i tried with a router vm a while back, and failed
[21:36] <holstein> gonfi: literaly search it.. there are *many* ways.. the easy way is with a router
[21:36] <CodeHak> Highlight both connections under network connections, right click and click bridge then run virtualbox.;)
[21:37] <holstein> gonfi: i am using it with a router right now.. you need to set up the virtualization the same or similar regardless
[21:37] <hoodoowoo> MonkeyDust: here's my current hypothesis: a bug in the kernel module for ecryptfs.  After removing the user entirely and rebooting, I no longer have the issue.  I suspect it's a stale handle somewhere.
[21:37] <gonfi> by router you mean router vm?
[21:37] <holstein> gonfi: imagine you have 2 separate machine.. how do you want to translate those 2 machines on the network?
[21:38] <holstein> gonfi: i mean, a hardware device that will route the traffic for you and NAT the 2 boxes or whatever you need
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> gonfi  what are you using to connect to the internet?
[21:38] <gonfi> well i can't tell my isp hetzner to add a device for me for a dedicated server
[21:38] <blackshirt> hello, someone with tc experiences, why this happen when i execute this, # tc qdisc del dev eth0
[21:38] <blackshirt> RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
[21:38] <holstein> if you are literally coming out of the modem into a machine, that is what the modem is supposed to do.. just make one connection
[21:38] <blackshirt> what wrongs ?
[21:39] <holstein> gonfi: that is the issue... you *cant* tell your isp that. so you have to do it with a router
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> gonfi  a router translates your public IP address to several local IP addresses, that's what it's meant for
[21:40] <gonfi> you said a hardware device. confused.
[21:40] <holstein> gonfi: correct.. a hardware router is easy, and appropriate.. you get local IPs. you give the VM a local IP,a nd forward a port through the router
[21:40] <CodeHak> A router gives you a range of ip addresses from one connection.
[21:41] <blackshirt> # tc qdisc del dev eth0
[21:41] <blackshirt> RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
[21:41] <gonfi> yeah, that's what i have at home. but not at the isp where i have just 1 machine. so that's not an option.
[21:41] <holstein> otherwise, you'll need to do that with your one machine, and translate manualy to the VM
[21:41] <holstein> gonfi: using a VM as a router is an option
[21:42] <CodeHak> Yep bridge the connection to the virtualbox network adapter/connection.
[21:42] <holstein> gonfi: i have not cared to set that up as its is uncessarily challening. and i always have a router laying around.. and if there is a cable sitting there, you should be able to plug it in
[21:42] <gonfi> holstein, the isp is a couple thousand km away
[21:42] <CodeHak> Lol i do it with my cell 3g connection tethering/bridging the connections.
[21:42] <holstein> gonfi: mine is not here either, friend
[21:43] <gonfi> i can't go there and plug a router in
[21:43] <CodeHak> Sometimes.:)
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> gonfi  a router is located in your house
[21:43] <holstein> gonfi: i have a modem, i plug it into the router.. otherwise, im not following your *very* special scenario
[21:43] <CodeHak> Either cable and router or phone line with a dsl filter going to a router.
[21:44] <gonfi> scenario: have 1 dedicated machine at the isp, with 1 public ip. would like to run an ftp on an ubuntu vm on that.
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> gonfi  as i understand, you want two public IP address, right?
[21:44] <holstein> gonfi: the ISP give me a connection via coax cable.. the modem translates that to internet, and goes to my router.. my router give all the machines on my network local IP's, and translates the information to them.. i forward a port to the machine or virtual machine
[21:44] <Dr_willis> the isp works as a vps service also?
[21:44] <holstein> gonfi: how are you connected to that internet connection?
[21:44] <Rukelad> When I install ubuntu, will it be able to deal with an exsiting grub installation and just add its entry to it?
[21:44] <gonfi> no, not home isp
[21:44] <gonfi> server hosting isp
[21:45] <holstein> gonfi: how are you connected? physically?
[21:45] <gonfi> i don't know how they connect the machine
[21:45] <holstein> gonfi: you might not be allowed to do that.. you need to ask them how they are setting things .. you might not be allowed to get out that way froma VM
[21:46] <gonfi> i rent the root machine too, not just the vm
[21:46] <gonfi> i am allowed.
[21:46] <holstein> gonfi: that could be alreayd a virtual machine, and might not be able to forward through whatever they have
[21:46] <holstein> gonfi: i dont care what you rent.. that can be setup in a way to block you from forwarding through like that
[21:46] <gonfi> no, not a vm
[21:46] <holstein> gonfi: you said VM
[21:46] <gonfi> i have host os and a couple vm's
[21:46] <holstein> gonfi: if not, then the machien is connected and getting an IP
[21:47] <holstein> gonfi: sure.. and the VM's might not have access like that.. they are not getting IP's locally.. and you miy not be allowed to do what you are trying to do
[21:47] <holstein> gonfi: you need to ask them how to get out that way, and get ports through,a nd how they expect you to do that
[21:47] <gonfi> no
[21:47] <holstein> gonfi: yes, actually you do
[21:47] <CodeHak> Gonfi: Your physical PC will be connected either via an ethernet cable, phone cable very old or wireless adapter.
[21:48] <gonfi> it must be ethernet
[21:48] <holstein> gonfi: this is not ubuntu related anyways.. so try a networking channel.. the the answer is going to come from the host. and it might be "sorry, you are not able to do that here due to configuration"
[21:48] <holstein> gonfi: you have no idea, though.. it could already be virtual, and likely is
[21:49] <gonfi> no, i had harddisks replaced for me
[21:49] <gonfi> and have special hardware config
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> gonfi  then start from the beginning, what's your special config or setup?
[21:49] <holstein> gonfi: then, im sure they wont mind answering your specific questions.. which can not be answered here, since we, the volunteers, have not idea how the network is setup at your host
[21:50] <raven> is anyone using feed2imap? is the connection encrypted??
[21:50] <gonfi> ok, thanks for the help, i'll see if i can get an answer there
[21:59] <MeeKs> hey guys i have a live ubuntu environment loaded up on my laptop and need to use it to burn a .iso file, how would i go about doing this?
[21:59] <MeeKs> im not sure what tools to use
[21:59] <holstein> MeeKs: brasero if its there
[21:59] <holstein> MeeKs: any burner really
[21:59] <MeeKs> im guessing i need to first get ubuntu running off a usb drive to free up the optical drive
[22:00] <OerHeks> sounds like a good plan
[22:00] <holstein> MeeKs: you'll need an available optical burner, for certain
[22:00] <MeeKs> i have to use the laptop burner
[22:00] <MeeKs> so i need to get my usb drive to boot
[22:00] <glitch256> hi all is their any one that can help me register a bash script to a phone wifi connect event
[22:00] <OerHeks> Does the target machine boot from usb?
[22:01] <MeeKs> i hope so
[22:01] <MeeKs> im not sure
[22:01] <MeeKs> do i just restore the iso file to the usb drive?
[22:01] <holstein> !unetbootin | MeeKs is an option
[22:02] <OerHeks> use the usb-creator tool, it is available in your live session
[22:02] <MeeKs> oh
[22:02] <deadweasel> how can I tell the last few things I installed?
[22:02] <deadweasel> \12.04 lts x64
[22:03] <clue_h> software center history? but i dont use it
[22:04] <muelli> deadweasel: there is probabably a log in /var/log/, i.e. /var/log/dpkg.log or so.
[22:04] <k1l_> deadweasel: /var/log and then the apt logs
[22:04] <deadweasel> ah, good idea.  thx. muelli
[22:04] <AngusVFF> I installed a 13.04 64-bit iso to my flashdrive using yumi. When i attempt to install, i get terminal and no other response. How do i Fix this?
[22:04] <deadweasel> thx k1l_
[22:04] <OerHeks> deadweasel, in softwarecenter - history http://beginlinux.com/images/desktop/ubuntu/ubuntu1010_software-center1.jpg
[22:05] <OerHeks> AngusVFF, black screen and flashing cursor?
[22:05] <AngusVFF> OerHeks: yes. and lines of code
[22:06] <OerHeks> !nomodeset | AngusVFF this might help
[22:08] <k1l_> !away > cipherboyoffline
[22:13] <glowe> Hej all! I need some help to get my USB internet (Huawei E1750) to work
[22:14] <AngusVFF> OerHeks: When i select "install to a hard disk" it starts to load. Then when i switch away to show the status, i get "/init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: No medium found"
[22:14] <pagios> hello, how can i remove the passhparse for encryption when booting my laptop?
[22:15] <gordonjcp> pagios: easiest way is to boot the laptop, decrypt, make a backup, and reinstall :-/
[22:15] <pagios> reinstall what?
[22:15] <deadweasel> oh jesus, I have no idea what I installed.....   I installed SOMETHING akin to POWERMENU for windows, it's a right click 'always on top' functionality.  It broke lots of stuff.... I can't find any package that describes it...
[22:16] <SunStar> how can i search recursively through a folder for files that contain my search tearm inside the file contents?
[22:16] <jrib> SunStar: grep -R
[22:16] <pagios> gordonjcp: full system reinstallation?!
[22:16] <AngusVFF> When i select "install to a hard disk" it starts to load. Then when i switch away to show the status, i get "/init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: No medium found". How do i fix this?
[22:17] <SunStar> thankx jrib
[22:18] <AngusVFF> I downloaded 13.04 64-bit. I used yumi to install it to my usb stick. When i select "install to a hard disk" it starts to load. Then when i switch away to show the status, i get "/init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: No medium found". How do i Fix this?
[22:18] <jsonperl> i have a bunch of servers running with 16gb of ram available... they have a leak and when they get somewhere above 1GB, they get restarted
[22:18] <jsonperl> but for some reason, freeing of that memory seems to make the whole machine spike in cpu usage, and slows everything WAY DOWN while it happens
[22:19] <jsonperl> i was thinking maybe tuning the swappiness might be the solution, does that seem reasonable?
[22:19] <Dr_willis> AngusVFF,   you did verify the md5 of the iso file? its possible it was bad. or yumi goofed up. you could try some other tool fromt he pendrivelinux site, and double check the md5sum to verify it was a good download
[22:21] <AngusVFF> Dr_willis: Ok. How do i check to make sure? Im new to linux.
[22:23] <bprompt> AngusVFF: hmm, /dev/sr0 is usually the DVD drive, something tells me you may have clicked on the wrong entry
[22:24] <bprompt> as opposed to /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or such
[22:24] <AngusVFF> bprompt: I used a USB Stick
[22:24] <bprompt> AngusVFF:    shouldn't matter, so have I :)
[22:25] <DoktorV> Hello, I'm having trouble with chmod
[22:25] <AngusVFF> bprompt: Im gonna try again using unetbootin
[22:28] <DoktorV> I've downloaded Tales of Maj'Eyal, linux 64 bit version, but it won't run because the main executable doesn't have execute permission. When I try to give owner execute permission, nothing happens, even when doing sudo chmod
[22:28] <blue-eyes> hi
[22:29] <actery> hi
[22:29] <blue-eyes> anyone know what plugin is needed to view these videos? http://science.discovery.com/tv-shows/through-the-wormhole
[22:29] <kboodu> DoktorV: What's the exact command you're using on the chmod command?
[22:30] <DoktorV> I've tried many from the tutorials - chmod u+x file, chmod 777 file, and some more I don't remember offhand
[22:31] <clue_h> blue-eyes, im watching those on youtube, are you using firefox?
[22:31] <blue-eyes> clue_h: are you watching the old episodes or this season's?
[22:32] <clue_h> season 4, scared of going off topic though lol
[22:33] <clue_h> blue-eyes, it should work in chrome though.
[22:34] <blue-eyes> clue_h: I didn't know this season's was on youtube. If they're not from Discovery Science, they might be pulled. I'm pretty sure the vids on their official website aren't played via youtube. Firefox and Chrome both show a message about a plugin needed.
[22:34] <tworkin> on 12.04 i did a 'useradd -m someone' and the account has almost zero settings. is there a command to plop down the system defaults like the user that the installer creates?
[22:34] <AngusVFF> bprompt: How do i make it use the usb stick?
[22:34] <tworkin> settings i mean rc files. and something better than /bin/sh
[22:35] <blue-eyes> I've looked at the html for the webpage and something about an .mp4 file is mentioned in at least one part.
[22:35] <Jagst3r15> when will ubuntu be rolling release?
[22:36] <clue_h> im checking it out (its working for me atm in firefox) but i have flash player
[22:36] <k1l_> Jagst3r15: no plans for that
[22:36] <Jagst3r15> I have read such
[22:36] <Jagst3r15> or they are at least considering it?
[22:36] <blue-eyes> clue_h, I have flash player installed as well. Don't know why it's not working.
[22:37] <bprompt> AngusVFF:    you download the .iso, about 700mbs, and do a raw image to the usb stick :), if you're in windows, use something like winimage, if you're in linux, I use 'dd' data dumper    " dd if=myisofile.iso of=/dev/sdb "  assuming my usb is /dev/sdb
[22:37] <k1l_> Jagst3r15: there was some ideas some months ago. but they didnt thnk its usefull
[22:37] <Jagst3r15> that is disappointing
[22:37] <k1l_> Jagst3r15: nope
[22:37] <blue-eyes> clue_h, I should mention that the ads work, but the feature vids don't play
[22:37] <Jagst3r15> for me it is
[22:38] <Jagst3r15> so im on 12.04 which i love
[22:38] <Jagst3r15> i am stuck with these outdated packages in software center?
[22:38] <OerHeks> blue-eyes, have you got restricted-extra's installed?
[22:39] <Dr_willis> !latest
[22:39] <blue-eyes> OerHeks, yes I've tried that. Doesn't work.
[22:39] <k1l_> Jagst3r15: you need to make a decision if you want stable packages or the latest packages.
[22:39] <kboodu> DoktorV: have you tried sudo chmod +x filename?
[22:39] <Jagst3r15> why can't there be both -_-
[22:39] <SonikkuAmerica> !LTS
[22:39] <Dr_willis> even the latest release is not always up to date.
[22:39] <clue_h> blue-eyes, hmm do you have noscript and adblock
[22:39] <Dr_willis> Jagst3r15,  because ubuntu is not a rollign release.
[22:40] <blue-eyes> OerHeks, are you able to view the feature vids after the ad plays?
[22:40] <k1l_> Jagst3r15: you can have fake-rolling-release with the development releases
[22:40] <DoktorV> kboodu: I may have before, tried it again just now, nothing
[22:40] <Jagst3r15> I mean I understand
[22:40] <Jagst3r15> but some things like chromium in 12.04 are out of date like hell
[22:40] <kboodu> DoktorV: What message did you get back?
[22:40] <Linus> rolling releases arent always the latest versions
[22:40] <Jagst3r15> youd think that would be easy to keep up
[22:40] <Dr_willis> Jagst3r15,  use the PPA's
[22:40] <MeeKs> im having trouble burning an iso from the ubuntu live usb
[22:40] <DoktorV> kboodu: Nothing, terminal advances to a new prompt
[22:40] <MeeKs> can anyone help me
[22:41] <Jagst3r15> isnt more of a rolling release ideal>
[22:41] <Jagst3r15> Is it just lack of man power?
[22:41] <OerHeks> blue-eyes, yes, that makes me wonder
[22:41] <kboodu> DoktorV: I hate recommending this, but can you become root (sudo su -) and try again?
[22:41] <blue-eyes> clue_h, I've allowed javascript and everything else except cookies.
[22:41] <kboodu> becoming root isn't the best thing.  But maybe you'll see some other message.
[22:41] <tworkin> Jagst3r15: not if you have a dependency for which you lack the source code
[22:41] <clue_h> blue-eyes, actually i dont get to see after the intro could be because I am in the UK?
[22:41] <k1l_> Jagst3r15: that topic what is ideal is too much for this technical support channel. to discuss that topic you could join #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss
[22:42] <Linus> root is fine just not suitable for noobs, if you know what your doing use root.
[22:42] <blue-eyes> clue_h, I don't know. I've been able to watch them on windows but not linux so far. I can only view the advertisements on linux, not the feature video.
[22:42] <PepperoniPizza> *you're
[22:42] <k1l_> Linus: no need to be root on ubuntu
[22:42] <Jagst3r15> sorry I was just curious :)
[22:43] <deadweasel> I installed *something* that adds 'always on top' to the right click menu.  Now all right click menus open up behind the active window, also, 'always on top' does not work AT ALL.  pls help.
[22:43] <Linus> k11 and whats the diff of using sudo su?
[22:43] <deadweasel> 12.04 x64 lts
[22:43] <k1l_> Linus: even not "sudo su"
[22:43] <Linus> or sudo the sudoers grants all
[22:43] <kboodu> Linus: sudo allows you to become root for only the length of the command.
[22:43] <Linus> sudo su gives you root
[22:43] <MeeKs> for-ev-errrr
[22:43] <blue-eyes> OerHeks, do you allow adobe flash to allow cookies and store data?
[22:43] <k1l_> Linus: "sudo -i" is the ubuntu way _if_ you need a root shell
[22:44] <kboodu> Linus: sudo su lets you become the root user when you can't use the su command (because there's no password for the root user)
[22:44] <k1l_> Linus: we know there are alot of other ways but in here we support only sudo -i
[22:44] <OerHeks> blue-eyes, yes, like standard setting.
[22:44] <clue_h> blue-eyes, id work around and use wget followed by the *.mp4 file
[22:44] <DoktorV> I tried that, then chmod +x file, nothing, no errors
[22:44] <clue_h> for now
[22:44] <bekks> sudo su is a bad idea.
[22:44] <blue-eyes> OerHeks, I'll try that and see what happens.
[22:44] <Linus> I wasnt arguing against the Ubuntu way sorry was just giving my experience of root.
[22:44] <bekks> Better use "sudo -i"
[22:44] <DoktorV> Then I killed that terminal.
[22:44] <blue-eyes> clue_h, If I knew how to do that I would.
[22:44] <blue-eyes> clue_h, I think their links are difficult to get the actual location
[22:44] <kboodu> DoktorV: Are there any messages in /var/log/auth.log
[22:45] <Linus> I build your kernel ffs who you talking to.... Nvidia.
[22:45] <Linus> joke bad maybe?
[22:45] <OerHeks> blue-eyes, btw it is not a wormhole in space, but the species
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> !who > Linus
[22:45] <k1l_> !guidelines > Linus
[22:46] <blue-eyes> clue_h OerHeks It's working now
[22:46] <clue_h> blue-eyes, good job
[22:46] <blue-eyes> I allowed adobe flash to store data and now they play
[22:46] <clue_h> i'll remember that one!
[22:46] <Jagst3r15> are backports more or less stable?
[22:47] <kevinHONGY> how do i enable the 3d effects for a window
[22:47] <kevinHONGY> .....
[22:47] <DoktorV> kboodu: there are many lines like "Jul 15 17:39:40 Dragon3 sudo:  vincent : TTY=pts/3 ; PWD=/media/Games/Games/T-engine ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/bin/chmod +x t-engine" and then, most recently, some lines referring to a su session opening then closing
[22:47] <OerHeks> Jagst3r15, more stable than proposed
[22:48] <kboodu> Have you tried specifying the full path to 't-engine'?
[22:48] <Jagst3r15> 0erHeks so backports is a way to have updates without updating to latest release?
[22:48] <glowe> Hey all! I need help getting my 3G internet to work. Can anyone guide me through it?
[22:48] <Jagst3r15> I am new to ubuntu trying to understand :)
[22:48] <DoktorV> kboodu: Yes, I tried that a few times, it didn't seem to make any difference
[22:48] <kboodu> Hmm.  /media...
[22:48] <kevinHONGY> help anyone ?
[22:48] <DoktorV> The game doesn't have to live on the second hard drive, I could move it to home/games
 Backports are the stabelest you will get. Only security patches are applied to backports and the version is kept at a certain level.
[22:49] <kboodu> DoktorV: What file system is /media/Games?
[22:49] <kboodu> Is that a NTFS or FAT32 file system?
[22:49] <kevinHONGY> how do i get the effect for like a window
[22:49] <DoktorV> kboodu: Ah, right, that was an NTFS drive from before I wiped out Windows
[22:49] <Linus> kboodu its neither it will be ext3 or ext4
[22:49] <kevinHONGY> k bye
[22:49] <clue_h> ccsm
[22:49] <kboodu> DoktorV: That's the problem.  It's not recognizing the Linux attribute.
[22:50] <DoktorV> All right, I've moved the game to home/games and now it looks like it should work.
[22:50] <kboodu> DoktorV: You'll have to find another way to make that executable, but I don't know what it is as I haven't tried to do that.
[22:50] <kboodu> DoktorV: Good luck with your new game. ;)
[22:51] <DoktorV> That game is small enough that it doesn't need to live on the second hard drive, fortunately
[22:51] <DoktorV> Thank you for your time
[22:51] <Linus> dokortov put permenat mounts you could forget in fstab in future sounds like you didnt
[22:51] <kboodu> DoktorV: np.
[22:51] <S_J> wget -qO- https://toolbelt.heroku.com/install-ubuntu.sh | sh // that doesnt work, im trying to get the heroku toolbelt as you can see.
[22:51] <Mkeer> I recently installed Ubuntu and I find it extremely unstable... Twice in a row I left it running overnight and I come back and suddenly my computer is slow and buggy and I need to restart...
[22:51] <OerHeks> Jagst3r15, yes, newer version for those who cannot wait for secure testing
[22:52] <AngusVFF> bprompt: Im looking at the status and it says "the disk contains an unclean install" i used unetbootin and yumi, and i cant figure out the issue
[22:52] <Jagst3r15> OerHeks seems like that is a good way to avoid going full rolling release
[22:52] <Jagst3r15> how come not many backports are there for 12.04?
[22:52] <AngusVFF> i checked the md5 and its ok, but i cant solve the problem
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> !details > Mkeer
[22:53] <S_J> nm
[22:53] <Mkeer> wilee-nilee, I have Ubuntu-gnome (3.6) 13.04... I'm not running anything very resource intensive... 2GB RAM, 2.8Ghz core 2 duo...
[22:53] <oneking> what's up
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> Mkeer, Hard to tell without specifics.
[22:55] <clue_h> Mkeer, have you tried 12.04? i have a machine with similar stats using ubuntu-2d and it handles that ok
[22:55] <Mkeer> wilee-nilee, what do you need to know?
[22:55] <kboodu> Mkeer: So what programs are you running that imply it's "slow" or "unstable"
[22:55] <MeeKs> im runninb ubuntu 13.04 from a live dvd, how can i install that onto a usb stick so i can boot ubuntu from that instead of a dvd?
[22:55] <bprompt> AngusVFF: so.... you downloaded the .iso and then?
[22:55] <Mkeer> clue_h, but most of the time it's fine... very smooth
 If you wanna go rolling try Gentoo. You can build on a build box but build binaries that can be installed on other machines alot quicker. On top of that create your oqn mirror and set your portage make.conf to use binary only on your live machine.  Always a kind of stable way to live with a rolling release in live or desktop
[22:55] <AngusVFF> bprompt: yes. from the website
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> Mkeer, The channel needs to know exactly what is happening not vague decriptions, such as when I do this this happens.
[22:56] <tbarat> there is one program which can do Meeks
[22:56] <clue_h> unity-2d i mean
[22:56] <bprompt> AngusVFF:   and then?
[22:56] <MeeKs> i cant seem to find it
[22:56] <MeeKs> is it in the ubuntu dock on the desktop
[22:56] <tbarat> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[22:56] <AngusVFF> bprompt: i used YUMI to get it on my usb stick, and that didnt work. then i used unetbootin and i got the same result
[22:57] <MeeKs> thanks tbarat
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> tbarat, Use nicks, please you can tab complete them.
[22:57] <MeeKs> oh im on a mac i cant run that app tbarat
[22:57] <bprompt> AngusVFF:   ok.... how about using DD?
[22:57] <bprompt> instead
[22:57] <tbarat> :D
[22:57] <tbarat> iDiot
[22:57] <Mkeer> kboodu, yersterday night, I left a bunch of terminal windows (inc. VIM, python but without any code running).... I came back from work today and I opened chrome and clicking links was generally very unresponsive, videos on youtube were running much slower than usual... pressing the Super key didn't show the Overview view...
[22:57] <AngusVFF> bprompt: Im using a windows machine to do this
[22:58] <Mkeer> This is not even with Gnome 3.8, this is the relatively old 3.6 version...
[22:58] <kboodu> Mkeer: Were you running top?
[22:58] <jrib> Mkeer: check memory and cpu usage
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> tbarat, If your are dissing it us a good way to get banned. ;)
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> is*
[22:58] <Jagst3r15> is there a list of web apps?
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> Jagst3r15, Web appa?
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> apps*
[22:59] <Mkeer> kboodu, no... I tried opening the system monitor but I couldn't get to it since the Super key was not responsive...
[22:59] <kboodu> Mkeer: If you can run top in a terminal session, you might see something that catches your eye and driving up CPU or Memory / Swap utilization
[22:59] <Jagst3r15> like the amazon web app thing?
[22:59] <Jagst3r15> isnt there a list of offficial ones
[22:59] <Jagst3r15> or no
[22:59] <kboodu> Mkeer: You might look at a log afterwards to see if something was causing trouble, but I'm not sure which one....and it will only help you in the future.
[23:00] <kboodu> Mkeer: Your description of problems (without more detail) isn't "normal" to most users of Ubuntu though.
[23:00] <Mkeer> Right now I'm seeing close to 100% CPU use from update-apt-xapi...
[23:00] <bozo> trololo #debian
[23:00] <bozo> trololo #debian
[23:00] <bozo> trololo #debian
[23:00] <FloodBot1> bozo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> Jagst3r15, Might be something here, personally I turned all that off. http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/webapps/
[23:00] <Jagst3r15> wilee-nilee I am still on 12.04
[23:01] <Jagst3r15> I am just looking at what they do
[23:01] <Jagst3r15> I cant even use em
[23:01] <Linus> mkeer setting up a monitoring syatem might hel nagios say
[23:01] <Linus> help*
[23:01] <kboodu> Mkeer: What version of Ubunut?
[23:01] <kboodu> Ubuntu*
[23:02] <Linus> ^ ignore I read your post half wat through.
[23:02] <Mkeer> kboodu, 13.04 installed with Ubuntu Gnome (3.6)
[23:02] <vorlket> how do you identify harddisk + boot partition numbers of a partition?
[23:02] <bprompt> AngusVFF:    ok.... try reburning it with something like -> http://www.softpedia.com/get/CD-DVD-Tools/Data-CD-DVD-Burning/Win32-Disk-Imager.shtml
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> Jagst3r15, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/how-to-install-ubuntus-new-web-apps-feature
[23:03] <AngusVFF> bprompt: i used unetbootin and yumi. I hope this works...
[23:03] <kboodu> Mkeer: I'm not running 13.04, so I'm guessing.  But maybe i fyou google on update-apt-xapi, you can find something (since you point to that specific app)
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> AngusVFF, You checked the sum of the ISO?
[23:03] <Linus> vorlket sudo fdisk -l | grep /dev
[23:03] <vorlket> Linus: thanks!
[23:03] <Linus> vorlket sudo fdisk -l | grep /dev
[23:03] <kboodu> Mkeer: or try update-apt-xapian-index?
[23:03] <Mkeer> kboodu, well it stopped by itself... I'm guessing it's some automatic update... I really have no evidence that this is what caused my problem
[23:04] <Linus> vorlket np my fingers are to bad they hit enter and up at the same time
[23:04] <AngusVFF> wilee-nilee: yes. it was good
[23:04] <Linus> to fat *
[23:04] <kboodu> Mkeer: There seems to be some on-going problems (historically) with update-apt-xapian-index.  You might want to look into that.
[23:04] <kboodu> Or change the time(s) it runs (if you can)
[23:05] <S_J> where should i put my bash scripts if i want to eb able to run them from anywhere?
[23:05] <Linus> vorlket boot should have a flag of boot but may nought but /boot is always the smallest partition usually around 100-150mb
[23:06] <Linus> nought not* (wtf?)
[23:06] <kboodu> S_J: You can add them to ~/bin/ if that exists in your .bashrc or .profile files
[23:06] <jrib> S_J: ~/bin for your user, /usr/local/bin/ if you want them available system-wide (to every user)
[23:06] <kboodu> S_J: That way they will be in your path so bash can find them.  The assumption is you are using bash.
[23:06] <danes> Hello, I need to recover data from a damaged hdd. I am using testdisk and I analyzed the disk. It took about 2 days and now I'm stuck. This is the screen I got after analyzing the disk: http://pastie.org/8144088
[23:06] <vorlket> Linus yep
[23:07] <danes> can anyone advise what should I do next in order to recover my files?
[23:08]  * mecool :)
[23:08] <Linus> s_j /home/yourdir mainly, if they need sudo access they will still be restricted without suodoing. You can put them anywhere you have write access to.
[23:08] <Linus> danes try testdisk one sec
[23:09] <Guest55405> Hey. Anyone alive here?
[23:09] <Linus> danes http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk works a treat I havent used it in ages though so cant help but they have some good guides.
[23:10] <danes> Linus: that is what I am using
[23:10] <Guest55405> Oh, folks are alive here?
[23:10] <danes> Linus: but I am stuck and I dont know what to do next. I just dont want to mess up things even more
[23:10] <kboodu> Guest55405: Do you have a qustion?  If so, just ask
[23:11] <Guest55405> kboodu: Yeah. Can I remove the Global Menu, but keep the HUD?
[23:11] <danes> Linus, I got this error Can't open filesystem. Filesystem seems damaged.
[23:11] <kboodu> Guest55405: Not sure....MAYBE someone else will have the answer.  But not sure why you'd want to...
[23:11] <Linus> danes its been that long since Ive used it I dont want to advise. As its data recovery you usually only get one chance.
[23:12] <Guest55405> kboodu: I hate the Global menu, but love the HUD
[23:13] <Linus> danes Some advice though dont follow instructions blindly!
[23:13] <OerHeks> danes most likely you want Rebuild BS, rebuild bootsector, as the message in line 17/18 say you need one
[23:13] <danes> Linus: I know and that is why I am asking for help
[23:14] <danes> OerHeks: I am doing it now... Will see what happens...
[23:15] <Linus> danes what FS is it?
[23:15] <danes> Linus, ntfs? I am not sure what you are asking
[23:16] <Linus> danes was just asking as regarding what FS you were recovering from.
[23:17] <OerHeks> 1 * HPFS - NTFS
[23:19] <OerHeks> Guest55405, yes you can undo the global menu bu Unity-tweak or like this > http://marcantoinelemieux.com/blog/posts/2013/05/12/ubuntu-12.04-12.10-13.04-removing-global-menu
[23:19] <zx2> xrandr doesn't show my second monitor , but second mirrow shows a mirrow
[23:20] <Guest55405> OerHeks: will though brake the lovely HUD
[23:20] <zx2> .. but second monitor is showing mirrow
[23:20] <Linus> is Mir in any live distros at the mo?
[23:21] <Guest55405> Linus: nope
[23:21] <Guest55405> Ubuntu 13.04 maybe?
[23:21] <Guest55405> Didn't see any X server there
[23:22] <gyre007> guys...I have a stupid question...how do I mount a filesystem so that the directory is owned by particular user which has RW permissions...
[23:22] <gyre007> every time I mount it into some dir which i CHOWN to some user..mount overrides the ownership to root:root
[23:22] <Linus> hmm is that using wayland? Im always behind on displays as mostly use ssh apart from my desktop.
[23:22] <Guest55405> gyre007: u can set the rights when you mount the partition
[23:22] <gyre007> what are the options Guest55405
[23:23] <gyre007> I need t stick them into fstab
[23:23] <Guest55405> Linus: As I said, I didn't see any X server running on 13.04
[23:23] <Guest55405> ps aux | grep X
[23:23] <OerHeks> Guest55405, no, hud will not be affected AFAIK
[23:23] <Guest55405> gave no ouput
[23:23] <muelli> gyre007: run "disks". You should be able set mount options there.
[23:24] <gyre007> muelli: this is server
[23:24] <gyre007> not desktop
[23:24] <muelli> gyre007: then edit /etc/fstab
[23:24] <Guest55405> gyre007: http://www.omaroid.com/fstab-permission-masks-explained/
[23:24] <netlar> How do I stream my Ubuntu One music?
[23:24] <Linus> Ubuntu stop changing thinks so much you were perfect at 8.04 but you did resemble Debian alot more then!
[23:25] <Linus> things*
[23:25] <gyre007> muelli: hah I know Im looking for the right options
[23:25] <netlar> I absolutely love 13.04
[23:25] <muelli> gyre007: man mount
[23:25] <gyre007> :)
[23:25] <gyre007> cool
[23:26] <Jagst3r15> anyone own the ubuntu dell xps 13?
[23:26] <netlar> I signed up for Ubuntu's music streaming but have no idea how to play
[23:26] <netlar> the music
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> Jagst3r15, That is polling, ask your question on your problems
[23:27] <Jagst3r15> wilee-nilee :(
[23:27] <muelli> !anyone | Jagst3r15
[23:27] <AngusVFF> Im trying to install ubuntu and i keep getting an error that says "/init: line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: no medium found". Im using a live usb stick. How do i install?
[23:28] <muelli> AngusVFF: weird. Where did you get that stick from?
[23:28] <Linus> grey007 anything mounted in Linux will be root:root as its root that mounts it.
[23:28] <AngusVFF> Its a PNY 64GB usb flash drive
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> AngusVFF, Is this a dualboot with W8?
[23:29] <AngusVFF> wilee-nilee: No, Windows 7
[23:29] <w30> Jagst3r15:  no, but I do have a Dell Inspiron Ubuntu version (old)
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> AngusVFF, Is it a uefi setup?
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> was it W8?
[23:30] <Linus> w8 winshit8?
[23:30] <AngusVFF> wilee-nilee: The Computer is Custom. and it has a uefi bios. When i go into the boot menu. the drive comes up twice. one with Uefi, and one without
[23:30] <w30> Jagst3r15: it came with Ubuntu 7 something if I remember right
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | AngusVFF
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> Linus, keep it on topic.
[23:31] <Linus> ok
[23:31] <AngusVFF> !uefi
[23:32] <Linus> It was my logic to what w8 was though.
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> AngusVFF, More you might consider, honestly the IRC is bad for uefi advice I would use the UF, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[23:32] <AngusVFF> ok. Ive already posted on the forms
[23:32] <Linus> wile-nilee if you have worked in a noc you would know how bad labeling can be.
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> AngusVFF, Heh, bot seems broken. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[23:33] <maxb> I wonder why the image is trying to anything with /dev/sr0 at all. How was the USB stick made?
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> AngusVFF, The author of that thread is who you want, make sure the header has uefi in it.
[23:33] <netlar> Dummy me, I thought Ubuntu one Music streaming was like Pandora, opps my mistake
[23:34] <netlar> It just streams music from your library of music
[23:35] <maxb> For what it's worth, I've happily UEFI-booted the Ubuntu installer on various hardware
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> AngusVFF, If you get a chance run the bootrepair app from the live cd, just the bootinfo summary and include a link to its url in your thread.
[23:35] <AngusVFF> ok
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> maxb, Seems to work fine, however the manufacturers have their own tweaked versions, making it a bit tough for some.
[23:41] <gyre007> so essentially you can't change the owner of the mount point so you have to handle this stuff on the filesystem level....unless you set some umask which allows EVERYONE to write in...
[23:44] <Linus> grey007 you could try setting 777. I had a lot of this issues with a Python script I wrote to mount a samba share and remove logs. My resoloution was allow my user NOPASSWED in sudo on the script
[23:44] <Linus> NOPASSWD*
[23:44] <gyre007> Linus: 777 is not very secure
[23:44] <Xaos> evening all.
[23:44] <Linus> GREY007 ON A WEBSERVER NO, WHATS IT ON?
[23:44] <goddard> do you think all the constant updates from Ubuntu hurt the life of your hard drive?
[23:45] <Linus> sorry for caps
[23:45] <goddard> Linus: you need not apologize linux kernel creator
[23:45] <gyre007> some slightly sensitive data
[23:45] <gyre007> which should defo NOT be accessible by everyone :)
[23:45] <cor_r> is there some kind of lightweight empathy messnger?
[23:45] <Linus> goddard no your HD writes and reads alot more than Ubuntu updates do.
[23:47] <Xaos> Has anyone had this issue..... I am trying to get my wireless adapter installed but I can't.  It downloads the files needed but when it goes to install it, I get a message saying that it can't be installed.  Anyone else have this issue?
[23:47] <goddard> Linus: ok thanks
[23:47] <Linus> goddard for?
[23:47] <goddard> Linus: i just had a drive go out after only a little less then 2 years
[23:48] <goddard> its not an SSD
[23:48] <goddard> laptop hard drive
[23:48] <Linus> goddard was that the one you were running testdisk on?
[23:48] <goddard> ya
[23:49] <Linus> goddard I smoke that much weed my short term memory is terrible lol, good luck with the recovery. My colleagues have had 100% recovery using it so far though!
[23:50] <goddard> Linus: its all good I backed it up before that happened
[23:50] <goddard> Linus: i am surprised you remmebered
[23:51] <goddard> i also had another instance where some files got deleted and i was trying to recover with extundelete
[23:51] <goddard> that might be what you remember
[23:51] <Linus> goddard So am I tbh
[23:51] <goddard> haha
[23:52] <Linus> goddard probabbly yeah
[23:52] <netlar> Is linus the linus?
[23:53] <Linus> neltlar Of course I am . Whyyou ask?
[23:54] <netlar> Just curious
[23:54] <Linus> No Im not God
[23:54] <netlar> You aren't?
[23:54] <holstein> !ot
[23:54] <Linus> To me Linus is God
[23:59] <Xaos> Has anyone had this issue..... I am trying to get my wireless adapter installed but I can't.  It downloads the files needed but when it goes to install it, I get a message saying that it can't be installed.  Anyone else have this issue?