[00:56] <Riddell> mjg blog on mir http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/26254.html
[01:48] <ScottK> apachelogger: Ah, yes.  I am taking care of that.
[01:48] <ScottK> Riddell: I thought that was a nice one.
[02:08] <manchicken> w00t... JontheEchidna's email totally helped.
[02:09] <manchicken> Do we have any internationalization plans for this kubuntu-debug-installer app?
[02:13] <ScottK> We always have internationalization plans ...
[02:48] <manchicken> And... we're functional.
[02:48] <manchicken> Sweet.
[02:49] <JontheEchidna> manchicken: btw, speaking of l10n, you should probably throw this in before you hit trans->run()
[02:49] <JontheEchidna> trans->setLocale(QLatin1String(setlocale(LC_MESSAGES, 0)));
[02:49] <manchicken> I'm gonna polish this off a bit and we'll be ready.
[02:49] <manchicken> JontheEchidna: Cool
[02:49] <JontheEchidna> so the user's locale settings get properly communicated to qaptworker
[02:50] <JontheEchidna> also, glad to here you got things working
[02:50] <JontheEchidna> *hear
[02:51] <JontheEchidna> mm, that shows that I really should be going to bed as planned, heh
[02:54] <JontheEchidna> g'night
[02:54] <manchicken> I'm gonna be a jerk and put my name in the credits of the file. Booya.
[03:30] <manchicken> Okay, my changes are done.
[03:30] <manchicken> How would folks prefer I commit my changes?
[03:30] <manchicken> I guess I could stick it on my own bzr.
[03:35] <manchicken> https://code.launchpad.net/~manchicken/kubuntu-debug-installer/kubuntu-debug-installer/+merge/174909
[03:45] <ScottK> Then do a merge request or something.
[03:55] <manchicken> D'oh, missing a file.
[04:01] <manchicken> https://code.launchpad.net/~manchicken/kubuntu-debug-installer/kubuntu-debug-installer/+merge/174915
[04:03] <manchicken> I *really* like this new way of distributing changes.
[04:26] <ahoneybun> hello all?
[04:33] <manchicken> Hi
[04:38] <ahoneybun> hey manchicken 
[05:13] <manchicken_> do we not have debug symbols for plasma-desktop?
[06:57] <yofel> manchicken: kde-workspace-dbg
[07:25] <soee> good morning
[07:53] <yofel> manchicken_: I only took a quick glance on the merge, but I think you missed the "release" repository. You have X-updates, X-security and X-proposed, but I see no place where you add X without a suffix
[08:22] <yofel> shadeslayer: how's soprano?
[08:26] <yofel> E: libkdcraw22: embedded-library usr/lib/libkdcraw.so.22.1.1: libraw
[08:26] <yofel> why do I get the feeling that pino wanted that implemented in lintian...
[10:10] <Riddell> good morning Kubuntu
[10:16] <yofel> hi Riddell
[10:19] <tester56> hi, when I click an URL in any kde program the website gets downloaded and opened in the webbrowser. any idea how to disable this and open the webpage directly instead?
[10:21] <shadeslayer> mmm
[10:21] <shadeslayer> yofel: nowhere
[10:22] <yofel> shadeslayer: k, still want to do it, otherwise I'll take care of it
[10:22] <shadeslayer> probably best if someone other than me took it up since I'm not really in a state to do packaging today
[10:22] <yofel> ack
[10:22] <yofel> :D
[10:22] <shadeslayer> you know what I mean :P
[10:22] <shadeslayer> even though I've had coffee I feel like shit
[10:26] <jussi> can anyone recommend me a decent voip provider? 
[10:28] <apachelogger> yofel: seems to me neon is now missing ld_library?
[10:29] <apachelogger> or we need to build with rpath
[10:29] <apachelogger> (which IMO makes sense anyway)
[10:30] <apachelogger> oh
[10:30] <apachelogger> nvm
[10:30] <apachelogger> missing package
[10:31] <apachelogger> jussi: skype? :P
[10:31] <yofel> missing package?
[10:31] <yofel> and yeah, we should build with rpath (which is the default I think?)
[10:32] <apachelogger> don't ask, I don't know what is wrong :P
[10:32] <yofel> not sure, I get a different error locally then the one in the PPA :/
[10:32] <yofel> *than
[10:32] <yofel> let me finish soprano, then I'll take another look
[10:33] <jussi> apachelogger: pffffffffffffffffffffffffffftttt
[10:33] <apachelogger> I need more coffee
[10:33] <apachelogger> yofel: somehow my plasma-shell wants libkde4support but that lib doesn't exist ^^
[10:33] <yofel> pass some to shadeslayer, he can need some more ^^
[10:33] <apachelogger> not even sure how that works
[10:33] <yofel> apachelogger: er, that's supposed to be part of kdelibs, no?
[10:33] <apachelogger> I guess
[10:34] <yofel> well, kdelibs is new, while plasma is a few days old, so I guess that's a problem
[10:34] <apachelogger> could be
[10:34] <apachelogger> plasma should build again now though
[10:34] <Riddell> libkde4support.so.5 is missing from neon5
[10:35] <apachelogger> the build from yesterday had a transitional upstream problem
[10:35] <Riddell> ah name change /opt/project-neon5/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKDE4Support.so
[10:35] <apachelogger> guess that explains it then
[10:36] <Riddell> lots of capitalisation changes
[10:37] <apachelogger> its the way of the qt :P
[10:37] <apachelogger> oh well
[10:37] <apachelogger> I'll go for lunchens and stuff
[10:38] <apachelogger> manchicken_: JontheEchidna: QAptDecorator looks silly
[10:44] <Riddell> "Logan Rosen (logan) wants to be a member of Kubuntu Packagers" anyone we know?
[10:44] <yofel> the name sounds familiar, but I don't think I've every had direct contact with him
[10:46] <Riddell> does ubuntu studio says launchpad
[10:56] <Riddell> hmm he reviewed this, so could be a useful chap, I'll e-mail him https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/nootka/upstream-merge/+merge/173865
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:11] <yofel> hi BluesKaj
[11:12] <BluesKaj> hi yofel
[11:13] <Riddell> ~z
[11:14] <Riddell> a wet lunch
[11:14]  * Riddell hiden in the hack room
[11:19] <yofel> Riddell: that's why we pretty much turned the coffee shop into another hack room ^^
[11:20] <Riddell> ah hah
[11:54] <Quintasan> \o
[11:54] <yofel> hi Quintasan
[11:54] <Quintasan> yofel: You doing anything productive now or it's coffee break?
[11:55] <yofel> well, I'm hacking in the coffee shop, so I'm working on 4.10.95 and drinking coffee
[11:55] <Quintasan> :D
[11:55] <Riddell> multi tasking productivity!
[11:59] <Riddell> afiestas_: do you know who's looked into systemd in KDE?
[12:04] <manchicken_> apachelogger: i agree. works though :-)
[12:07] <manchicken_> apachelogger: i have time to polish, but i wanted to get something out which worked first
[12:08] <Quintasan> manchicken_: Did you decide whether you are going to work on PolicyKit KCM?
[12:09] <yofel> manchicken_: did you get my message about the repositories?
[12:13] <manchicken_> yofel, I'm on mobile, so i may have but I don't know where it's off to
 manchicken_: I only took a quick glance on the merge, but I think you missed the "release" repository. You have X-updates, X-security and X-proposed, but I see no place where you add X without a suffix
[12:15] <manchicken_> gotcha. could you comment on the card or the merge so I won't forget?
[12:15] <manchicken_> I'll also put it on my todo list
[12:16] <yofel> right, will do that
[12:27] <manchicken_> thanks
[12:29] <manchicken_> ill get to that tonight or tomorrow night. please let me know if you guys see anything else. my c++ is pretty weak, so I'll probably have several revisions while I make this suck a bit less.
[12:29] <manchicken_> I really like the way contributions are done now. this is cool.
[12:31] <Riddell> apachelogger: no qtwebkit5 in neon5?  that seems to be needed by plasma now
[12:40]  * yofel moved to the hack room for better wifi
[12:41]  * Riddell waves at yofel 
[12:41] <yofel> :D
[12:46] <yofel> grrrr, qtwebkit tells you exactly one missing dep at a time and it seems to have dozens :(
[12:55]  * yofel wonders why qtwebkit has like 3 buildsystems...
[12:56] <yofel> and no readme...
[12:58] <Riddell> yofel: it is horrible like that
[12:58] <Riddell> yofel: why are you building it?
[12:59] <yofel> was looking at whether it's possible to add it to neon5 in a sane way
[12:59] <yofel> as it's intentionally not in the qt5 build
[12:59] <Riddell> ah
[12:59] <Riddell> but is now needed
[12:59] <Riddell> isn't there a build script with it like qt4webkit has?
[12:59] <yofel> well, it's optional, but yeah it should be there
[13:00] <yofel> not sure, I'm now building it the way the archive package does
[13:00] <Riddell> it runs ./Tools/Scripts/build-webkit
[13:00] <yofel> seems to work so far
[13:12] <Riddell> is it just me or are the list archives incomplete?
[13:12] <Riddell> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2013-July/thread.html
[13:12] <Riddell> no "Extending the KDE SC Micro Release Exception"
[13:12] <Riddell> or several posts I made yesterday
[13:13] <Riddell> afiestas_: http://www.devheads.net/linux/kubuntu/development/extending-kde-sc-micro-release-exception.htm
[13:14] <Riddell> afiestas_: does kscreen do bugfix only releases? I don't think it does
[13:20] <Riddell> apachelogger: but digikam is cool now, I taught a digikam dev how to canoe, that makes them cool in my book
[13:21] <apachelogger> shall we talk to sune about this? :P
[13:26] <shadeslayer> haha
[13:59] <yofel> hm, kmail isn't sending my queued mails
[13:59] <yofel> how nice
[14:00] <yofel> and qtwebkit didn't build, fun
[15:17] <Peace-> guys do you know why this command doesn't work on kubuntu  dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest='org.freedesktop.Hal' /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.SystemPowerManagement.Shutdown
[15:17] <Peace-> it should close the computer 
[15:20] <yofel> Hal?
[15:20] <Peace-> yofel: well yeah it's not installed by default ?
[15:20] <Peace-> or i remember bad?
[15:21] <lordievader> Wasn't Hal replaced by Udev?
[15:21] <yofel> hal is deprecated since ages and not installed by default anymore, upower replaces it
[15:22] <Peace-> uuu
[15:22] <Peace-> i remember bad :D
[15:22] <Peace-> yofel: btw do you know the dbus line to close computer?
[15:22] <Peace-> :d
[15:23] <Peace-> i know i am asking a lots 
[15:23] <yofel> I'm just trying to figure that out again, in saucy logind is responsible for that, before it was consolekit I think
[15:23] <yofel> what release are you on?
[15:23] <Peace-> 13.04
[15:25] <yofel> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbus --system org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Manager org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.Stop
[15:25] <yofel> I think
[15:26] <Peace-> yofel: ok saved
[15:26] <Peace-> thank you so much
[16:53] <seaLne> apachelogger: why dosen't dragon play webm files, presumably the backend dosen't support it, is that likely to change?
[16:54] <Riddell> seaLne: I guess that's gstreamer at fault, you could try searching for gstreamer fixes or install the vlc backend
[16:56] <seaLne> the akademy videos are going to be webm because they are so much better than ogv
[16:57] <Riddell> hmm
[16:57] <Riddell> seaLne: got a sample I can try?
[16:58] <apachelogger> probably because it's not in the mimetype list
[16:58] <apachelogger> of the dragon desktop file
[16:58] <apachelogger> because you cannot do video/*
[16:58] <apachelogger> really awesome business :P
[17:49] <seaLne> Riddell: http://byte.kde.org/~duffus/tmp/15_42_06.dv.webm
[17:50] <seaLne> (unfortunatly someone had mucked about with the camera autofocus)
[17:51] <seaLne> oh so dragon can play it, just pretends it can't
[17:52] <Riddell> yeah plays fine in dragon here
[17:52] <Riddell> also in rekonq and firefox
[17:52] <seaLne> had to right click other to get it to though
[17:53] <Riddell> mm so apachelogger's diagnosis is correct
[17:56] <yofel> apachelogger: could you please review my kde-runtime changes? I dropped a phonon related patch that I think is obsolete by changes you did, but I'm not sure
[17:57] <Riddell> apachelogger: want me to fix that or will you?
[18:16] <apachelogger> Riddell: feel free to
[18:16] <apachelogger> Riddell: while you are at it please also review all video/ types are in the file ;)
[18:38] <Riddell> I wish ssh would not make a local copy of something when you forget the : at the end of the hostname
[18:55] <Riddell> vHanda: ping?
[20:15] <yofel> hm, no, recommends didn't work
[20:15] <yofel> make[1]: lintian: Command not found
[20:35] <Riddell> Noskcaj!
[20:36] <Noskcaj> hello
[20:36] <Riddell> Noskcaj: see the comment on nootka?
[20:37] <Noskcaj> just then. I'll try and fix it today
[20:39] <yofel> ScottK: for bugfixes post the last kde bugfix release, can we push out bugfix SRU's every now and then batching several patches together or would we have to SRU every patch by itself?
[20:39] <yofel> out of curiousity I checked what was fixed in git after 4.10.5: http://paste.kde.org/p43e5f255
[20:39]  * Riddell announces http://archive.kubuntu.co.uk/
[20:39] <yofel> we have 2 of the kde-workspace commits in our 4.10.5 packages, but nothing else
[20:57] <ScottK> yofel: Batching is fine, but if it's not an upstream release, we need to have a test case for each.
[20:59] <yofel> ok
[21:58]  * yofel manually triggers kdelibs and e-c-m builds for kf5 hoping that plasma will build then
[22:11] <Noskcaj> Riddell, i "think" i've fixed nootka, can you have a look? https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/nootka/upstream-merge/+merge/173865
[22:13] <Riddell> Noskcaj: about to go to sleep, will look tomorrow
[22:13] <Noskcaj> ok
[22:16] <Riddell> but not before publishing this rocking blog http://blogs.kde.org/2013/07/16/kubuntu-all-stars-akademy
[22:41]  * Quintasan can imagine shadeslayer going "I'VE GOTTA MOVES LIKE THAT, I'VE GOTTA MOVES LIKE THAT"