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doctorpeppercan anyone please help me , for more than a month  i am unable to start akonadi . i get the following error "Could not open required defaults file: /home/smz/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf" eventhough i can open mysql.conf using emacs00:29
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lorddeltaSo where would you send someone if they asked for a newb's introduction to iptables. I know I can always hit the man pages, but the man pages could do with some freshening up. Got any good tuts?03:28
tsimpson!firewall03:31
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist.03:31
tsimpsonfirst or second link03:31
tsimpsondepending on how deep you want to go03:31
lorddeltathats a start I suppose03:34
lorddeltaI was hoping for a bit more than a bot answer, but that'll do till I find something better03:35
tsimpsonthe help pages have a lot of information03:36
tsimpsonthat's why the bot points to them03:36
lorddeltaWell this is going to sound silly but...got any iptables infographics?03:52
lorddelta:P03:52
lorddeltaClassic problem with things like iptables, you either understand the full 15 page list or none of it.03:52
lorddelta15 item*03:53
lorddeltait is a very infographicall program I bet03:53
lorddeltaI'm not opposed to man pages but I like to use them as reference pages03:53
tsimpsoniptables is insanely complex, that's why they invented all those GUIs and the 'ufw' tool to manage it simply03:54
tsimpsonit's modifying tables in the kernel, so it's very... verbose03:54
lorddeltaYeah but I don't have to understand all 7/5 layers of the internet to be able to understand how basic tcp/ip works.03:55
lorddeltaBest explanations I ever got weren't long winded ones, they were pictures03:55
lorddeltathe long winded ones were nice when I wanted details03:55
tsimpsonpictures work in the abstract, I haven't see any good abstract "overview" of how iptables work03:57
lorddeltawell I know what it does, it plumbs stuff03:57
lorddeltaWhat that stuff is, and where it plumbs it are the next logical things to know I should think03:58
tsimpsonand that's all based on kernel routing tables, not an abstract concept03:58
tsimpsonif there was an easy way to understand iptables, it'd be well known03:59
lorddeltaSo a better place to start looking would be for infographics of kernel routing tables then03:59
lorddeltaEverything is easy to understand if you know how to go about understanding it.03:59
lorddeltahttp://www.actionpacked.com/products/Routing <-- am I on the right track here?04:06
CrellHi folks. I've an odd problem with the clock on my 13.04 system.  I'm in Chicago; I just got back from New York.  When I got to New York and changed my clock, it decided that Chicago == UTC.04:36
DarthFrogCute.04:37
DarthFrogNo idea why it happened but that's a cute one.04:38
CrellRight now, my computer is set to Chicago as the local timezone.  Right now it's 11:37 in Chicago. According to the clock, though, it's 4:37 am, which is UTC.  New York, though, is correcctly showing 12:37.04:38
CrellIt's actually happening to me and to my housemate, who is running the same version of Kubuntu.04:38
CrellWhich suggests it may be a more common bug.  I was hoping someone had heard of it.04:38
DarthFrogI've certainly experienced recalcitrant timezone issues.04:41
CrellHow did you fix them?04:43
DarthFrogI gave up bashing my head against the wall and just reset them every reboot.  Next time I use my laptop, I'll no doubt encounter them again.04:44
CrellWell I have reset it.04:44
CrellOr, well, it is being set via ntp.04:44
CrellLA and Denver are reporting the correct time.04:45
CrellCorrection: My housemate just noted it affects both of her computers, so all 3 13.04 systems in the house are affected.04:46
CrellIt looks like it's just whatever the "home" timezone is that's affected.  If I set the computer to NYC time, NYC shows up as UTC and everyone else is correct.04:46
Crellhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/268073/kubuntu-and-kde-clock  - Hang on, this looks promising.04:49
lorddeltaCrell; happened to me too05:00
lorddeltaI had a similar experience with the clock screwing up05:01
lorddeltadifferent time zones05:01
lorddeltaright now it seems to have fixed itself, but only after a bunch of updates05:01
lorddeltaand the interface for 'fixing' the time is still broken05:01
lorddeltafile a bug05:01
CrellWhere's the link for that?  And would just a link to the thread above with "This works" be an acceptable bug report?  (Slightly more detailed, but no sense in copy/pasting that page.)05:02
lorddeltahttps://bugs.kde.org/05:03
lorddeltaThere' something seriously wrong with the whole time package, which is worrying because it affects certification05:04
lorddeltaright now I actually have two different times for the same timezone on my computer...05:04
lorddeltaAnd its the ntp interface which is screwed up05:04
CrellFun times.05:04
lorddeltaDon't ask me what caused it; it just happened out of the blue about 2-3 weeks ago05:06
CrellSame for us.05:06
CrellIt happened to my housemate when she last was poking at TZ settings.05:06
CrellIt happened to me when I went to New York and changed my timezone... it then decided local was UTC.05:06
CrellIt looks like the actual problem is that the /etc/localtime symlink is invalid, so it falls back to UTC.05:07
lorddeltalet me know if that fixes it.05:07
lorddeltaI'd certainly appreciate it.05:07
CrellYes, the link I posted above seems to fix it for me.05:08
CrellAlthough it implies that the next time I change the timezone it will happen again.05:08
lorddeltamy 'fix' was to manually set TZ in my bashrc05:08
lorddeltaand then run 'date' whenever I wanted the actual time05:08
lorddeltaoh, and run sudo ntpdate myself05:08
lorddeltaBut I couldn't get the plasma-desktop to fix itself.05:09
lorddeltaCan you try really quick and see if messing with your automatic time update works for you?05:09
lorddeltaadjust date and time in settings05:10
lorddeltaautomatically retrieve time checkbox05:10
CrellMess with how?05:10
CrellIt's set to pull from NTP, yes.05:10
CrellAlways has been for me.05:10
lorddeltatoggle the checkbox, hit 'apply'05:10
lorddeltaI get an error message telling me it cannot contact pool.ntp.org although that's hogwash because the actual ntp utility works fine05:11
CrellJumped back to broken UTC.05:11
CrellI get no such error.05:11
lorddeltaYup, its related then at least05:11
lorddeltaCurious that I get that error and you don't05:11
CrellCould be a separate bug.05:11
lorddeltaOr it could be one bug with multiple symptoms, and your have a slightly different configuration somewhere...05:12
lorddeltayou*05:12
* Crell nods.05:12
CrellOh good.  And now trying to repeat the process from before isn't fixing it now.05:12
CrellYou broke my computer! :-)05:12
* lorddelta pats self on back05:12
lorddeltaSorry X_X05:13
* Crell isn't sure which program to file this bug under...05:13
CrellThere is no Clock or Klock...05:13
lorddeltaheh05:13
lorddeltaits not plasma's fault, I was messing with the widgets the other day for a different reason, there are (several) problems with the DataSource stuff in kde05:14
lorddeltaI suspect that's part of the problem05:14
CrellFun times.05:15
CrellLet me ask in #kde05:15
lorddeltaBut know I don't know what daemon specifically is responsible, but I'm thinking its a daemon issue05:15
* Crell doesn't know the guts of KDE well enough.05:16
CrellIt's been a long time since I paid close attention to system processes.  I'm a web dev architect these days.05:16
lorddeltawell hey you should be at home, they write most of plasma in QML these days it seems05:18
lorddeltaSo that's basically just glorified JS05:18
CrellIf we had to pick a language to be the new ubiquitous language of the world, why did it have to be one as crappy as Javascript?05:19
* Crell does mostly server side PHP.05:19
lorddeltaHey, similar things could be said about PHP...05:19
lorddeltaI prefer JS...05:19
lorddeltaUbuntu was hedging its bets on Python, and it nearly made it.05:20
CrellI was just talking with folks in NYC today about the parallels there between PHP and JS. :-)05:20
lorddelta...don't tell me, I bet someone's built a linux distro that runs off of php X_X05:20
CrellI certainly hope not.05:20
CrellI know there's gtk bindings for PHP, which is just weird.  I've never used it.05:20
lorddeltanot that I'm holding my breath but some people are using php as a replacement for perl these days...so we might see more of that crazyness in the near future.05:21
CrellWell PHP is decent enough as a shell scripting language.05:21
lorddeltaThink that's how python got started anyways05:21
CrellAnd it's certainly more readable than Perl.05:22
CrellBut I wouldn't use it as the basis for an OS.05:22
* Crell has written CLI PHP apps for clients before.05:22
lorddeltaPerl is more like super-bash05:22
CrellPerl: It's like awk, but for people for whom awk is too readable.05:22
lorddeltaew. Why would anyone want to program in awk...05:23
CrellNothing more than 4 lines, at laest.05:23
Crellleast.05:23
lorddeltaI haven't done much of awk, but I'd rather write a perl program if I'm gonna do any serious shell work05:23
lorddeltaI don't touch php unless I have to05:24
lorddeltabut its gotten better since php5 I guess05:24
lorddeltaanyways! any luck in kde?05:24
CrellSomeone there just suggested plasma applets.05:25
lorddeltaoh boy05:25
CrellYeah, if your memory of PHP is PHP 4, PHP 5 is an entirely new language.05:25
lorddeltayou're gonna get the run-around05:25
CrellIt just shares a lot of syntax with the old one. :-)05:25
* Crell was partially responsible for the death of PHP 4.05:26
lorddeltaYeah, it looks a lot more like Java now.05:26
lorddeltaThat or C++05:26
lorddeltaPHP might be popular for a bit, I don't know if its going to stick around, but its an OOP language now, and Functional is what is currently cool. Which will change in 5 years and PHP will switch back to functional in PHP605:27
lorddelta:P05:27
lorddeltaMeanwhile Perl still will be plotting perl505:27
lorddeltaand everyone will still be using perl405:27
Crellhehe.05:28
CrellDon't confuse procedural with functional.05:28
CrellVERY VERY different beasts.05:28
* Crell has given conference talks on functional vs. procedural vs. oop.05:28
CrellPHP's been around for 18 years, and runs 80% of the web.  It's not going away any time soon. :-)05:29
lorddeltaJavascript does suck now, but hey php4 kinda sucked as well...I'm hedging my bets on ES6. Actionscript was a decent language, however bad Flash Player may have been.05:30
lorddeltaSorry with the functional vs procedural. Just everyone has function pointers and 'closures' these days, so its easy to call something functional when you mean procedural05:32
lorddeltaOr Functors if you like C++05:33
CrellPHP has closures now, too.  and generators in the latest version.05:34
CrellIt's not a truely functional language in that the runtime doesn't enforce pure functions and immutable variables, but very few languages are purely functional.05:35
Crelllorddelta: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32045605:42
ubottuKDE bug 320456 in kcm_clock "Selecting "set date & time automatically" sets time to GMT, ignoring time zone setting." [Normal,Unconfirmed]05:42
CrellLooks like it was already filed.  I added some additional data.05:43
* Crell tries to be a good OSS citizen.05:43
Crelllorddelta: Drop some votes on it if you want to pimp it a bit. :-)  (Although I don't know if that ends up meaning anything.)05:46
lorddeltaheh I will if I remember what my pwd is05:47
lorddeltakde was one of those weird sites that forced me to use an odd password that got lost in a pwd manager somewhere05:48
Crellfun.  They have a recovery tool though.  Worked for me.05:49
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nikola_Hello guys. This morning I decided to install Kubuntu 13.04. Its a fresh installation and what I wanted to add first is build-essential to have gcc ( i need it to install new AMD catalyst ). Unfortunately, I ran into depency hell and I can't fix it. Is there some solution or its better to go back to 12.04 ?07:17
tron71nikola_ what errors do you get?07:21
nikola_http://pastebin.com/NMYm9KFQ07:23
nikola_Note that this is fresh installation07:23
nikola_No other applications are installed. I used 13.04 ISO image I downloaded from official Kubuntu web site07:23
tron71mh... can you check your source repositories in the package manager?07:24
tron71which repositories are enabled?07:24
lordievadernikola_: Have you run "apt-get update" before trying to install?07:25
nikola_Sorry for AFK07:29
nikola_lordievader : Yes I did07:30
tron71and what about enabled repositories?07:30
nikola_Only "Canocial Partners" are unchecked07:31
lordievadernikola_: What happens when you run "apt-get -f install"?07:32
nikola_Everything else is checked07:32
nikola_I get same rrror message.07:32
lordievadernikola_: Could you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy gcc"?07:35
nikola_Sure07:35
nikola_http://pastebin.com/zKyzEbfv07:37
lordievaderOkay, the correct version is available. What dependencies is gcc missing?07:39
nikola_http://pastebin.com/NMYm9KFQ07:40
lordievadernikola_: This doesn't show what gcc is missing.07:40
nikola_How to see that ?07:41
lordievadernikola_: You can try to install it or run "apt-cache showpkg gcc".07:42
nikola_http://pastebin.com/sNTdZJcz07:43
lordievadernikola_: Ah it depends on libc6-dev, what happens when you try to install it?07:45
nikola_http://pastebin.com/Q01UK7A407:46
lordievadernikola_: Have you run since your installation a "apt-get upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade"?07:47
nikola_No, only "update"07:48
nikola_Should I do it now ?07:48
lordievadernikola_: Yes.07:48
nikola_"0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded"07:49
lordievaderNow that is odd...07:50
nikola_Yeah, I never encountered something like this before.07:50
nikola_I mean in previous distros I never had problems with installingpackages and depencies07:51
nikola_But this is kinda endless...07:51
lordievaderlibc6-dev is complaining about libc6 being ouddated.07:51
lordievaderI think it has a simple solution with one big problem, update libc6 and then update the rest. The big problem? Updating libc6...07:52
nikola_So thats kinda "loop" or something ?07:53
nikola_The strangest thing is gcc is located in build-essential and build-essential is looking for gcc itself07:53
lordievaderbuild-essential is a meta package, in itself it is nothing. Just a bunch of dependencies.07:54
nikola_Btw if nothing of that doesnt work I will revert back to 12.0407:54
nikola_I think thats a solution for now until 13.04 reach stable state or something...07:55
lordievadernikola_: Try to run the full "apt-get update&& apt-get dist-upgrade" again.07:55
lordievadernikola_: It should already have that, being released and all ;)07:55
nikola_Update is done07:56
nikola_And for upgrade : "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."07:56
lordievadernikola_: Phew, I'm not sure what to do now...07:57
nikola_I also tried to reinstall 13.04 3-4 times and still same thing.07:58
nikola_It's ok. At least we tried...07:58
nikola_I think to install Ubuntu07:58
nikola_and to install kubuntu-desktop from there07:59
lordievadernikola_: Or Ubuntu-Server, if you are comfortable with the commandline. Saves you the whole Unity desktop.07:59
nikola_Yeah, im fine with command-line08:00
nikola_Thank you for all help you provided08:00
nikola_At least we know now its some sort of ugly bug08:00
lordievadernikola_: No problem. Too bad we couldn't find a solution.08:02
nikola_Nah its ok08:03
nikola_What you use anyway ?08:04
nikola_Also Kubuntu or Ubuntu ?08:04
lordievadernikola_: What do you mean?08:04
lordievadernikola_: Kubuntu, for my desktop and home-laptop.08:04
nikola_You use 12.04 or this one 13.04 ?08:05
nikola_I should also note that I installed Kubuntu 13.04 from USB Stick08:07
nikola_Maybe thats an issue...08:07
lordievaderOn the desktop 13.10 and 13.04 on the laptop. My server runs 12.04.08:07
nikola_You installed from CD-ROM or from USB stick ?08:08
nikola_Just want to see if my USB is drive is prob corrupted or something...08:10
nikola_Maybe thats why I get all those errors...08:10
lordievadernikola_: Usually from a usb stick.08:11
nikola_I will try to install from another USB stick08:13
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nikola_Thank you for all help :)08:15
nikola_lordievader : One more info. You never had problems installing build-essential when using 13.04 ?08:16
lordievadernikola_: Never on 12.04, 13.04 or 13.10. From what I remember, not sure if I had it installed on my 12.10 install.08:20
nikola_Then thats def a problem with my USB drive08:20
nikola_Thats why I get reports about "broken packages"08:21
nikola_Im going to install from another USB drive and I will report results08:21
nikola_Thanks again for everything.08:22
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Saintblah10:59
BluesKajHey folks11:11
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bwat47thank god for kde 4.11 beta 2, finally no more tearing on intel with kwin13:45
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dnivraHello. I'm running Kubuntu 12.04.2 I recently got a new computer and the replaced the hard disk of the new one with the hard disk from the old machine. Now, some of the desktop effects do not work. Is there anyway to debug and fix the issue?15:16
dnivraCover Switch, Desktop Cube, Desktop Cube Animation, Startup Feedback are the effects that do not work. I cannot change the composting type to OpenGL either - KDE automatically reverts to xrender saying it cannot apply the new settings.15:17
lordievaderdnivra: What kind of graphics card do you have?15:18
dnivraI don't have a dedicated GPU AFAIK. I'm checking now to be sure.15:19
dnivralspci says "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)"15:19
lordievaderdnivra: Does that support OpenGL?15:20
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dnivraI am not sure but I'm guessing it doesn't since I can't witch to OpenGL - KDE automatically reverts to xrender.15:22
lordievaderdnivra: Xrender doesn't support a lot of those fancy things like the Cube or the blur effect.15:23
dnivraAh okay so that explains why none of those can be enabled.15:23
dnivraOkay I guess that fixed it. I was going through the installed packages and found I had installed fglrx when I'd faced this issue earlier but that didn't solve it though. I removed those packages and was able to change the composting type to OpenGL.15:25
dnivraGuess I should've double checked before coming here.15:25
dnivraThanks for the help lordievader :)!15:26
lordievaderdnivra: No problem ;)15:26
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todorHi all. Can somebody help me with parted and a partition alignment? I created 4 partitions without problem and the last partition complains about poor performance.16:36
todorThe correct partition is: 205211648s   2157754020s. The next unaligned partition is 2157754021s  7814037134s16:37
todorI saw many howtos for alighning the first partion, but how do I apply this on the fifth partition?16:37
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todorREGISTER toto t.i.ivanov@gmail.com16:55
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FloodBotK1!netsplit17:07
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit17:08
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calwig_I have something ackward just happening to my 12.04 LTS Kubuntu17:16
calwig_So the PC is booted, it initiates Kubuntu and upon login, the screen asks for a password. Its entered, then a black screen, suddenly back to the login screen...17:16
calwig_it keeps doing this again and again after I log in. So I cant get to the desktop17:17
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calwig_How can the KDE Windows Manager be reset, or is there a procedure like this17:18
HighHoCalwig, have you checked if there are multiple possible sessions?17:18
calwig_HighHo: Well no, how do I check that. And also, how could there be 2 possible sessions, if there was nothing done to the PC, it was just once rebooted from being logged in normal into a session, to suddenly having this17:19
calwig_Is there a Forum link to look this up...17:21
calwig_That would be good :)17:21
HighHoI think its called "Session Type" it will be visable on the login screen  just make sure kde is selected.17:21
calwig_HighHo: Interesting, Ill have a look17:21
FloodBotK1!netsplit17:35
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit17:37
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calwigHighHo: The menu options has the following:  Default / KDE Plasma Workspace / KDE Plasma Workspace (failsafe session) / Failsafe17:38
calwigI presume it is KDE Plasma Workspace17:38
HighHoyep17:39
calwigwhich I have chosen17:39
calwigWould it maybe also be Default?17:39
calwigWhat happens then, log in?17:39
calwigor restart the PC again17:39
HighHoyes try and login (from my memory Default is the last used session I could be wrong)17:39
HighHono just login17:40
calwiglet me try17:41
calwigSomething is a little weary and strange, I chose Default, I logged in, immediately black screen even displays *checking battery state17:43
HighHoAre you aware of any chnages to the system prior to this?17:45
calwigsystem changes absolutely none.17:45
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calwigThe only thing I was doing was fdisking my usb. And how I know nothing changed, is because I have another Kubuntu working OS near this one which also shows on the boot screen, I logged in (same login screen) and it works just fine17:46
calwigIm on a console AltF117:47
HighHoCan you type "df"17:47
calwigand I switched to AltF7 and displays just the boot process log17:47
calwigyep df -h17:48
calwigoh wait17:48
calwigI just noticed my /dev/sda2 is 100%17:48
calwigcould that be it17:48
HighHoyeah, whats the mount point of it?17:48
calwigno wonder the other Kubuntu session worked fine, because its still got space17:49
calwigthis is the working OS now/dev/sda2    with / as mounting point17:49
calwigI think we found the solution17:49
HighHoGreat :)17:50
calwigSo now Im logging into the working Kubuntu and move or figure out what to do with data on that part17:51
calwigHoly moly17:51
calwigI just checked the /dev/sda2 it has 0% space, I wonder why it went to this so quick17:52
HighHotry "sudo apt-get clean" (this will remove cached packages data) then "sudo apt-get autoremove" (this will remove packaes if possible where dependencys are no longer required)17:53
calwigah yes my favorite tasks :)17:55
calwigI think I freed like 2gb17:56
calwigOk 1.2Gb free, reboot then apt-get tasks18:04
calwigAh, this time I had to chose KDE Plasma Workspace18:06
calwigand it logged in18:06
calwig\o/18:06
calwigthanks HighHo18:06
HighHoGreat news, your welcome18:07
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calwignow onto what I was doing18:14
keithzgSo how does one get a proper default resolution *outside* of one's own user session (ie. on LightDM and etc) on an asymmetrical two-screen setup these days?18:30
keithzgI'm kindof baffled, but I don't want to long for the days of fiddling with xorg.conf!18:30
HighHoKeithzg, what drivers are you using?18:31
keithzgHighHo: Intel (it's an Intel i5-3550)18:32
keithzgWorth mentioning, I'm running KDE 4.10.518:33
HighHoI have 1 system thats connected to 2 displays, the resolustions are fine for me, the login display is on the default monitor (using an nvidia card). So afired I cant really add more than that hopefully someone else might be able to,18:35
keithzgYeah, sadly for me both monitors by default are displaying at the resolution of the lower, smaller one (1440x900).18:38
keithzgAnd the new Display And Monitor config in SystemSettings is . . . unpolished (and overly user-friendly for my purposes, heh)18:39
HighHoJust out of intrest you mentioned lightDM is it the same with KDM?18:40
keithzgHaven't tried. That's a good question.18:41
keithzgMight as well try. This is my work computer, after all, I don't bother booting into crazy random other DMs and WMs just for kicks, heh.18:43
keithzgQuasi-related, I'm weirdly fascinated to see what shakes out for which Display Manager ends up being the KDE default in the Wayland era.18:44
keithzgalright, time to swap DMs and see...18:45
keithzgNo change. KDM displays both monitors at 1440x900 too.18:49
keithzg(and my kwallet problems persist, but that's another story)18:49
keithzg(damned power outage...)18:49
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keithzgThis is what I hate about the modern automated stuff; when it does work, how does one fix it? #getoffmylawn18:52
keithzgHmph. Looks like it's an xorg.conf file or bust.18:57
SonikkuAmericakeithzg: The pound sign is for IRC channels, not Twitter hashtags :)19:01
keithzgSonikkuAmerica: Part of my joke :)19:01
SonikkuAmericakeithzg: Haha19:01
SonikkuAmericakeithzg: Problems with kdewallet, I hear? I think there's some sort of bug that occurs if you use your login password as your kdewallet password.19:02
keithzgSonikkuAmerica: Definitely not what I do. I always make sure it's an entirely different password.19:03
keithzgMy issue is just it fails to properly start upon session start, I have to kill the daemon and then invoke it again before anything can get any passwords out (despite how it initially prompted me for my wallet password).19:04
keithzgBut actually, it was different now that I logged in from KDM rather than LightDM. This time, it didn't appear to start at all and so didn't prompt me to unlock my wallet (hence some things like ownCloud sync started complaining) but then once I did open it things worked fine without having to kill the daemon.19:06
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n0ydBluesKaj_: you around?19:38
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n0ydArgh, this is bugging me. I cannot get the system time correct on Kubuntu 13.0419:46
n0ydI've never had a problem getting the time right in Linux before19:46
n0ydI usually can always fix it, but this time its stummping me. Anyone willing to give a hand?19:47
n0ydI've read other people having similar problem with same version of kubuntu oddly19:47
yofeln0yd: possibly http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?62995-Wrong-time-zone-on-your-clock-Help-Kubuntu-devs-create-a-fix19:48
n0ydMy TZDATA is correct, I've reconfigured many times.  But the EDT (my local timezone, EST with daylight savings) is 6 hours behind19:48
n0ydBut the UTC is actually the right time for EDT19:49
n0ydyofel: i dont get it...19:57
n0ydAnd its not for a lack of trying19:57
n0ydPeople are saying /etc/localtime has a broken link,  but reconfiguring tzdata fixes the link. Well great, ive set txdata 10 times, the tz is correct. The ytime is not19:58
n0ydThe UTC is the time of what my correct time would be in my own TZ19:58
n0ydNot 5 hours ahead like it should be19:58
yofelo.O19:58
n0ydor 6, with daylight savings19:58
n0ydI can make the clock in KDE display right, but that doesnt nothing for actual system time19:59
n0ydSo things like security certificates get messed up19:59
n0ydI cant use tor, etc19:59
n0ydSo.... anyone else wanna lend a hand?20:03
n0yd:)20:03
keithzgn0yd: I, uhh, personally did a dumb hack to fix it myself.20:17
keithzgn0yd: I told KDE *not* to automatically adjust the Date/Time . . . and installed ntpd, haha20:18
n0ydkeithzg: where do you tell it not ti fix it?20:20
n0ydyou mean uncheck the box?20:20
keithzgYup.20:20
n0ydk20:20
n0ydI think ive already tried ntpd and it didnt work20:20
n0ydlemme see20:20
keithzgSpecifically I think I also then set the "time" to UTC in KDE.20:21
keithzgAt least, what's what I currently have it set to, heh.20:21
n0ydwouldnt matter20:21
keithzgYeah, the system time for me at least would even show correctly, but KDE if set to automatic would muck it up.20:21
n0ydthe time displayed in KDE has no bearing on the system time20:21
n0ydright20:21
n0ydbut mine was never set to auto20:21
n0ydwtf, I ran ntpd, and now its messed up even more20:24
n0yddate20:24
n0ydwoops20:24
keithzgheh20:24
n0ydUTC is still showing what the localtiume should be20:24
keithzgI may have needed to reconfigure my locale after swapping over to a local ntpd20:25
n0ydAnd now the localtime is 4 hours behind the UTC20:25
n0ydits so messed up20:25
n0ydlocaltime should be showing the time that UTC is currently showing, and UTC should be +6 ahead of the localtime20:26
OerHeksI had issues too, did a re-install, but your remark about certificates and tor are interesting.20:26
n0ydOf course security certs complain about time20:27
n0ydThey are supposed to20:27
n0ydIf they didnt, you would have issues20:27
keithzgn0yd: might be worth a 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata'20:27
OerHeksTrue.20:27
n0ydkeithzg: I already have20:27
keithzgjust to be sure20:27
n0ydAlready said that20:27
n0ydIve done it more than i can count20:27
keithzgn0yd: after you started ntpd?20:27
n0ydoh, no20:28
n0ydweird, now its right20:28
OerHeksadjusting time +2 hrs manually fixed it untill next reboot, and still twitter and other time based services like earthquake maps still were off-time.20:28
keithzgYeah, that's how it played out for me.20:28
n0ydthough when i was reconfiguring it was still hilighted on the right options20:28
n0ydwait....20:29
n0ydWhat is UTC right now?20:29
keithzg20:2920:29
n0yd20:20?20:29
n0yderr ya20:29
n0ydmisread20:29
OerHeks8:29 PM20:29
OerHeksTuesday, July 16, 2013 (UTC)20:29
n0ydOk, just checking20:29
n0ydWell, hopefully it doesnt go bonkers again20:30
n0ydNow, lets check some certs20:30
keithzgYeah, I remember for myself I reconfigured tzdata a dozen times and it always *seemed* to be correct, but never ended up so. Then after installing ntpd finally tzdata reconfigured properly. Hopefully your case continues to be like mine and remains stable :)20:30
n0ydYup, thanks20:31
keithzgnp20:31
n0ydIt had been byugging me for weeks20:31
n0ydWell, tor certs work now20:31
OerHeksWill it still work after reboot?20:31
n0ydyup20:32
n0ydbecause of ntpd20:32
n0ydntpd runs on boot20:32
OerHeksoke, thanks, noted this.20:32
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sgroverHad dual monitors setup.  Now switched back to single monitor.  KDM login still things there are two monitors and puts the login prompt half way off the screen.  How do I fix this?  dpkg-reconfigure kdm did nothing.22:22
chachansgrover, even if you restart?22:27
chachans/restart/reboot22:27
sgroverchachan: yes - reboot, restart kdm, whichever.  It is always expecting a second monitor.  The background image (default Kubuntu theme) is also scaled for two monitors.22:28
sgroverNo issue once I log in though.22:28
chachansgrover, and did you check the display configuration to see if you have only one?22:29
sgroverThe display config only shows one monitor.  I just tried to "unify outputs" anyways but did not reboot/restart kdm yet (was waiting for a response here before logging out).22:31
sgroverbrb22:32
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