/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/07/16/#ubuntu-desktop.txt

TheMuso`c01:21
pittiGood morning04:30
pittiGood morning04:30
didrockspowerpc builds are lagging way behind :/05:56
RAOFdidrocks: Good morning!06:01
didrockshey RAOF!06:01
didrocksRAOF: while you are around: regarding xmir, so you are going to maintain ABI manually? like, we don't need any black soname virtual package provide?06:05
RAOFdidrocks: I'll do what the rest of X does, which is have an ABI version in the code.06:05
didrocksRAOF: but not for mir -> xmir, right?06:06
didrocksthe ABI version in the code will be in mir?06:06
RAOFFor the XMir dependency on Mir we'll just use the shlibdeps; xmir.so links with libmirclient.so.1, so that's all good.06:07
didrocksRAOF: ah, excellent, if you don't expect any ABI breakage without soname bump :)06:07
RAOFdidrocks: I've got a symbols file for it cooking :)06:07
didrocksheh ;)06:07
RAOFAnd none of the XMir drivers link with libmirclient; XMir hides that from it.06:07
didrocksexcellent :)06:08
didrocksRAOF: where is the xmir ppa right now? so that I can add it for running the tests until we are in distro06:08
didrocksxmir/mesa06:08
RAOFppa:mir-team/staging ?06:08
didrocksok :)06:08
didrocksRAOF: and if I run on ati06:08
didrocksI should see the fallback happening, right?06:08
RAOFFallback?06:08
didrocks(unity-system-compositor not starting, regular Xorg running)06:09
RAOFIf you run on fglrx you should see the fallback to regular X, yes.06:09
didrocksyeah, great, we'll test both cases that way :)06:09
jibelgood morning07:24
didrockssalut jibel!07:31
jibelsalut didrocks07:34
didrockssil2100: hey, good morning!07:35
sil2100didrocks: good morning! Time to unblocketh some stackeths!07:43
didrockssil2100: I think you see that most are blocked on ppc07:43
didrocksthere are only 2 builders, one which has built some private stuff apparently07:43
didrocks(backlog of 4 hours now apparently)07:43
didrockssil2100: we can be bad citizen and I'll suggest to run cu2d-skip on powerpc on the indicators and other that will start building07:44
sil2100Oooh07:44
didrockssil2100: the only thing is that indicator-session will be then published even if failing to build on ppc I guess07:44
sil2100I guess we don't care that much, right?07:45
didrockswell, indicator-session will be blocked in proposed07:45
didrocksbut I think that's fine07:45
sil2100Ah, ok, thought powerpc is mandatory in overall07:46
sil2100Since most of the touch bits don't have powerpc at all07:46
didrockssil2100: yeah, but for those that are arch: any it won't be copied07:46
didrockssil2100: however, we can bypass dailies to have the rest building07:47
seb128hey desktopers07:47
didrockssil2100: so just run cu2d-skip on what's waiting on ppc07:47
didrockswe'll have 2 builds (one on the ppa, one in proposed) instead of 107:47
didrocksbut "meh"07:47
didrockssalut seb128!07:47
seb128didrocks, lut ;-)07:47
sil2100Hi seb128 !07:51
sil2100didrocks: ok, then let me look at cu2d-skip ;)07:51
seb128sil2100, hey ;-)07:53
sil2100didrocks: skipped (probably) ;)07:54
didrockssil2100: the next build line should tell if you are right ;)07:55
didrockssil2100: oif as well?07:55
sil2100WARNING Request to ignore indicator-session on powerpc. \o/07:55
didrocksah, oif is on raring -> don't care :)07:55
sil2100OIF is green on head07:55
didrockssil2100: hum, you just ignore indicator-session?07:56
sil2100SDK has some trouble with the source package name, but strange07:56
didrocksnot the other indicators?07:56
didrockssil2100: yeah, it's the new component, I'm dealing with it07:56
* didrocks waits for https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/unity-action-api/source-package-rename/+merge/174937 to get merged07:56
sil2100didrocks: just indicator-session, since other indicators are ok, right?07:57
didrockssil2100: they are waiting on building as well07:57
didrockssil2100: and seeing the ppc backlog, I think we should skip all powerpc builds today07:57
sil2100Can I somehow tell cu2d-skip to skip all projects from a stack?07:57
sil2100Or manually?07:57
didrockssil2100: you have to list them, but you can do that in one command07:57
didrockssee --help :)07:58
didrocksah no07:58
sil2100Help says I can only comma-seperate archs ;p07:58
didrocksit's the archs07:58
didrocksbad memory :)07:58
didrocksso yeah, one command per project07:58
seb128didrocks, did you ping infinity or the is guys to see if there is a way to get the 3rd ppc builder back (sagari)?07:58
didrocksseb128: I think you just did (so no, I didn't) :)07:59
seb128didrocks, yeah, not sure that infinity is around though07:59
seb128let me try #is07:59
didrocksI didn't see him this morning07:59
seb128oh, not going to be useful07:59
seb128https://launchpad.net/builders/sagari says "NOTE: En route from Boston to London"07:59
didrocksseb128: I heard there are pipes under the ocean :)08:00
seb128;-)08:00
seb128sucks to be down to 1 actual builder (the other one is going openjdk, that's going to take a while)08:00
didrocksright, and it was 0 for a while08:01
didrocksas there was a private ppa build08:01
seb128bah, didrocks' system is too smart08:02
didrockswhy? :p08:02
seb128I should stop listing bugs in my commits when I do workarounds for them08:02
didrocksahah ;)08:02
Laneyhey08:02
seb128I tend to write "do this because of lp #nnn in the toolkit"08:03
Laneysagari is in transit to london from what I understand08:03
didrocksyeah, my regexp is quite relaxed on purpose08:03
Laneyoh you foudn that08:03
seb128and that ends up with a ubuntu-system-settings component to be added to the bug08:03
seb128and closed by the upload08:03
didrocksseb128: see, more karma, you can even reclose it a second time then :p08:03
seb128Laney, hey08:03
seb128Laney, yeah, we found that note ;-)08:04
seb128didrocks, hehe, more karma for me or for the upload bot? :p08:04
Laneyshould be better08:04
Laneyif you ever noticed that it takes ages to upload its builds08:04
sil2100didrocks: ACK please, testing code \o/ http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Misc./job/cu2d-misc-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_phablet-tools_0.15+13.10.20130716-0ubuntu1.diff08:04
didrockssil2100: how to say no to testing code? ;) +108:04
sil2100didrocks: (all indicators skipped already)08:05
seb128Laney, no, I never noticed, I noticed that it takes ages atm to get builds through though :p08:05
seb128hate ppc08:05
didrockssil2100: \o/ we'll have to look at other stacks that are going to get unblocked now to skip ppc on them as well I think08:05
Laneyyou could ask for some rescoring08:06
seb128I've nothing urgent08:06
seb128it's just annoying that we don't get daily landing this morning because things are waiting to be built on ppc still08:07
seb128that and the some hours backlog for anything we will upload08:07
didrocksseb128: hum, are you sure you did powerpc for indicators? last check didn't catch that08:08
mlankhorstdoes anyone here have a multitouch capable laptop and saucy?08:08
seb128mlankhorst, I don't08:08
seb128didrocks, you want sil2100?08:08
didrockssil2100: ^08:08
didrocksseb128: sorry08:08
seb128;-)08:08
seb128np08:08
Laneymlankhorst: yes, if a macbook pro counts08:09
didrocksunity-gyk-module -> that doesn't work :p08:09
mlankhorstLaney: erm touchscreen, not touchpad sadly :P08:09
Laneyoh08:09
Laneythat's what I know as multitouch ...08:09
mlankhorstoh sorry, does anyone have a laptop with a touchscreen?08:10
didrockssil2100: you didn't run them from the modules it's waiting for08:10
mlankhorstLaney: hm maybe I was just too used to those old resistive touch screens ;)08:10
didrockssil2100: just those that didn't build :/08:10
didrockssil2100: where did you fetch the list?08:10
LaneyI guess maybe it's a more general term08:10
Laneybut they called these multitouch trackpads when they came out :P08:10
* didrocks looks for sil2100 :p08:12
sil2100Eeek08:12
sil2100But wait08:12
sil2100hmm08:13
sil2100What did I do wrong that it's still waiting for libusermetrics, bamf and such08:13
sil2100Ah shit one typo, but what about the others08:14
sil2100unity-gyk-module08:14
didrockssil2100: you are reading http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Indicators/job/cu2d-indicators-head-2.1build/268/console, right?08:14
didrocksyou see there the components that are still pending building08:14
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sil2100didrocks1: yes, I made a typo, but some of them I did a skip already08:14
didrocksinteresting to receive my own message :)08:14
didrockssil2100: which ones?08:14
didrocksI see indicator-client, indicator-sync08:15
didrocksthat you tried to skip08:15
didrocksbut they are not building at all this round08:15
didrocks(not sure why you listed them)08:15
sil2100But I also listed all the others, but they don't skip08:15
sil2100I even explicitly set unity-gtk-module now, since I made a typo08:16
didrockssil2100: ok, let's see that one08:16
sil2100didrocks: will something happen if I re-skip again?08:16
didrockssil2100: normally, no08:17
didrocksskipping is just touching a file08:17
didrocksok, I see an indicator-sound.powerpc.ignore08:18
didrockswith a bunch of others (you didn't need to skip the whole things, what doesn't build :p)08:18
didrocksbut maybe there is a bug in the code08:18
* didrocks opens vim08:18
sil2100Maybe my gouranga skip made the script to overflow?08:18
didrockssil2100: well, I doubt there are that many :p08:19
didrocks        for arch in self.archs.copy():08:20
didrocks            if os.path.isfile("{}.{}.ignore".format(self.source_name, arch)):08:20
didrocksdoesn't seem complicated…08:20
didrocksbut yeah, bamf didn't ignore it08:20
sil2100I think all should be ok, I skipped all of them because I wrote a script that does that for a stack list08:21
sil2100Too bad I typoed ;/08:21
didrocksoh oh oh08:26
didrocksI think I understand what's happening08:26
sil2100hm?08:26
didrocksas I pass to the constructor a list08:26
didrocksin fact the object self.archs is shared between components08:26
didrocksso, if I remove from one08:26
didrocksit will be removed from all of them08:26
seb128didrocks, sil2100: the good news is that indicator-sound is building on ppc as you sort it out08:27
seb128didrocks, sil2100: so you probably don't need to skip ppc soon :p08:27
didrocksseb128: well, we need that for unity and other stacks I guess08:27
seb128https://launchpad.net/builders/ross08:27
sil2100;p08:27
didrocksok, there is one on the 3 cases where the list maybe be shared08:28
* didrocks tries that08:28
didrockssil2100: I think you are the first one to try to skip more than one componet :p08:28
didrockscomponent :p08:28
didrocksok, let's see run 270 for build08:30
didrocks(one all the prepare for unity finishes as it's taking all the slots)08:31
sil2100:D08:38
sil2100I mean, you want to run the build job explicitly for indicators?08:38
sil2100Or just re-run the stack with foo?08:38
sil2100The phone stack finally got unblocked too08:38
didrockssil2100: I run only the build job for now08:38
didrockssil2100: see the little "cu2d-indicators-head-2.1build" waiting :p08:38
didrockssil2100: I'm pretty confident that will fix the issue08:38
didrockssil2100: see run 270 ;)08:38
didrockssil2100: now, it's skipping the other on powerpc as well08:38
* didrocks removes the debug info and commit08:38
sil2100\o/08:38
didrockssil2100: sorry for the bug, I'll rerun indicators with foo to unblock the stack08:39
sil2100didrocks: ok, no problem - should I also run my gouranga script on the unity stack to skip powerpc for all?08:39
didrockssil2100: yeah, let's do that08:39
didrockssil2100: maybe you should patch cu2d-skip to take that arg08:40
sil2100I'll patch it up in a moment, since I'd have to see where I could get the list of projects in cu2d-skip, since right now it's a grepping hack on a stack file ;)08:42
sil2100This time I'll modify it and only skip those that need skipping, one moment08:43
didrocksok08:43
didrocksseb128: indicator-session still FTBFS on powerpc FYI08:48
seb128didrocks, yeah, there is a real bug in the tests, infinity gave access to charles to one of his boxes for debugging yesterday but I don't know if charles managed to find anything08:49
seb128didrocks, I'm going to wait for charles to be around and make the build not fail on broken ppc tests if he doesn't have a fix today08:49
didrocksseb128: seems at least, he didn't merge any potential fix :)08:49
seb128didrocks, no point blocking the archs we care about on a ppc issue08:49
didrocksok, thanks!08:49
didrocksagreed08:49
seb128yw08:49
didrockssil2100: for libusermetrics, it seems you did a typo though08:51
didrockssil2100: mind skipping it?08:51
sil2100didrocks: done08:52
didrocksthe tests pass, so then, indicators will be either in manual publish mode or will publish :p08:52
didrockssil2100: thanks!08:52
sil2100btw. what would happen if the stack name is 'invented' ;p ?08:52
sil2100I mean, non-existent ;p ?08:52
sil2100Since I ran my modified script and one cu2d-skip had the 'stack' and 'project' arguments switched, so I skipped the unity project in the unity-scope-zotero stack ;(08:54
didrockssil2100: ah, I think cu2d-skip jenkins jobs just fail08:55
didrocksas it can't touch the file08:55
* didrocks checks08:55
didrockssil2100: indicators in manual publishing mode btw :p08:55
didrockssil2100: yep, it failed: http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/cu2d-skip-project-archs/60/console08:56
didrockssil2100: hum, didn't change global status on https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/cupstream2distro-config/unity-action-api-daily/+merge/174816? Let me do that now09:15
didrockssil2100: has you done packaging review for the indicators stacks btw? (see my ping 20 minutes ago)09:17
* sil2100 backlogs 20 minutes ago09:18
sil2100hmm, where did you ping me?09:20
sil2100Ah09:20
sil2100AAh09:20
sil2100Ok, scratch that!09:21
* sil2100 is modifying the cu2d-skip script09:21
sil2100I'm reviewing09:21
sil2100Sometimes when I hear 'packaging review' I start thinking 'hmm, what new packages do I need to modify packaging?'09:21
mhr3sil2100, how's ap testing looking? any eta on landing to s?09:22
sil2100mhr3: hi! Let's wait for todays testing results, we'll know the final status once it finishes09:23
mhr3sil2100, very well09:26
sil2100didrocks: packaging changes look ok, the indicator-session/sound are big ones, since there was this switch to CMake09:27
sil2100didrocks: for ACKing:09:27
sil2100http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Indicators/job/cu2d-indicators-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_indicator-applet_12.10.2+13.10.20130716-0ubuntu1.diff09:27
sil2100http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Indicators/job/cu2d-indicators-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_indicator-session_12.10.5+13.10.20130716-0ubuntu1.diff09:27
sil2100http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Indicators/job/cu2d-indicators-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_indicator-sound_12.10.2+13.10.20130716-0ubuntu1.diff09:27
sil2100http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Indicators/job/cu2d-indicators-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_unity-gtk-module_0.0.0+13.10.20130716-0ubuntu1.diff09:27
didrockssil2100: hum, on the cmake, I would like to have a trailing comma if possible (but can be a following MP)09:28
didrocksI hate ascii order for build-deps, it makes no sense :/09:28
didrocksbut well…09:28
didrockslarsu: please try to not use ascii order in build-deps, more logical order is better :p09:28
didrockssil2100: the change in unity-gtk-module is wrong though09:28
didrockssil2100: tedg replace a file in /etc/X11/ by an upstart job09:29
sil2100didrocks: well, ascii order is usually forced by wrap-and-sort ;)09:29
didrockssil2100: yeah, and it sucks TBH ;)09:29
didrocksfirst, I think it's better that we check the upstart job is working (we don't have all the same signals on desktop)09:29
didrockssecond, the file in /etc is a conffile09:29
didrocksit needs to be removed in post* scripts09:30
didrocksso this one has to be fixed09:30
sil2100hm, can we have both at once?09:30
didrockssil2100: what's the point? he stops shipping it09:31
didrocksso only people upgrading will have the file, it needs to be removed09:31
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larsudidrocks: ooh, I didn't know that was a thing. Will do from now on :)09:33
didrockslarsu: thanks! we try to have in daily release: <debiantools> (like debhelper), <upstream tools> (autoconf, cmake…), <build-dep>, <test_build_dep>09:33
seb128larsu, still order alphabetically in logical groups (like lib*)09:34
didrocksyep ;)09:34
* sil2100 reads up09:34
seb128that's nitpicking though :p09:34
didrocksyeah, but we had coherence everywhere, would be good to keep it like that09:35
seb128in practice build tools end up first even if you use alphabetic order09:35
seb128cmake, debhelper, cdbs09:35
didrocksotherwise, it will derive and everyone is going to be lost maintaining different packages with different rules09:35
sil2100didrocks: ok, so I'm upgrading to the daily-build u-g-m to check if the upstart job works and gracefully removing that conffile when upgrading09:42
didrockssil2100: I'm sure it doesn't remove the conffile09:43
sil2100I know09:43
sil2100I said I'll be working on that ;p09:43
didrocksah, thanks!09:43
sil2100Maybe wrongly phrased, hm09:43
didrocksyou will remove the conffile and see if the upstart job work :)09:43
sil2100Yes, and then make u-g-m remove it automatically once it all works, hopefully09:45
seb128Laney, jfyi https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/unity8.background_gsettings/+merge/17495810:01
Laneyseb128: yay!10:01
Laneythey did the testImage thing too, that's always good to see10:02
Laneyunless that was borrowed from system-settings (which would be even better :P)10:02
seb128Laney, I pointed Cimi to system settings as a qml gsettings users so he might have copied it from there10:02
Laneyfair enough10:03
LaneyI was kind of scared they might just come up with some method of their own10:03
Laneylike avoiding GSettings entirely10:03
Laneyso I'm happy10:03
Laneyespecially after I heard the other day that it's not in scope for normal apps10:04
Laneyit made me worried that we didn't care for using it10:04
Laney(at least for 13.10)10:04
seb128Laney, well, they seemed to still be discussing it for normal apps, they were asking for example of usecases where we see it as needed10:05
Laneysure10:05
seb128Laney, I'm looking at using it in the phone-app and the sound panel today for the ring tone10:07
Laneyare we going to be defining a schema?10:08
seb128didrocks, sil2100: do we have a package atm that seems fit to add new gsettings key on the touch image?10:09
seb128e.g similar to gsettings-desktop-schemas but for Unity10:09
didrocksseb128: not that I know of10:09
seb128Laney, can we define keys without a schemas?10:09
didrocksok, jenkins has been shut down/crashed10:09
didrocksso all jobs are stuck10:09
seb128:-(10:09
didrockssil2100: rerunning them10:09
LaneyI mean "we" as in system-settings10:09
sil2100;/10:11
sil2100didrocks: btw. do we have anything against dpkg-maintscript-helper and the Pre-Depends: dpkg (>= 1.15.7.2) ?10:12
didrockssil2100: no, it's the right way to deal with it :)10:12
didrockssil2100: interesting, the apps stack failed because of missing libdee-qt5-3 and qtdeclarative5-friends-plugin10:13
didrocksInstalling qtdeclarative5-friends-plugin as Depends of share-app10:13
didrockssil2100: I'm adding that one, one sec10:14
sil2100hm, interesting10:14
didrockssil2100: mind acking? https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/cupstream2distro-config/refresh_apps_deps/+merge/17496410:16
* didrocks relaunchs the stack meanwhile now that it's deployed10:17
sil2100didrocks: hmmm, there is share-app twice in there?10:18
sil2100didrocks: in the packages: list10:18
didrockssil2100: argh, wrong copy/paste10:18
sil2100:)10:18
didrocksthanks for spotting it10:19
didrocksfixing :p10:19
sil2100The clipboard is teh devil sometimes10:19
didrocks;)10:19
didrockssil2100: pushed rev 51510:20
sil2100didrocks: approved!10:22
didrockssil2100: thanks!10:25
seb128Laney, ah, good question ... I was still pondering the options for the ring tone key, system settings or phone app, but eventually we will need a gsettings-desktop-schemas equivalent I think10:25
Laneyyeah probably10:27
LaneyAs long as everyone's agreed on using GSettings for stuff like that I'm happy10:28
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Laneyseb128: have you seen that the license list scrolls over the header in s-s?10:39
Laneys/license/package/ (in the license screen)10:39
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sil2100didrocks: I need to jump out for a moment to the store, could you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/unity-gtk-module/remove_conffile/+merge/174969 in the meantime? :) I hope sym-links are ok10:44
didrockssil2100: hum10:45
didrocksI think you have a better way10:45
didrockssil2100: btw, your local test run?10:45
didrocksremoving the file manually10:45
didrocksand the job comes up after that?10:45
didrocks(at login)10:45
didrockssil2100: man dh_installdeb10:46
didrockspackage.maintscript10:47
didrocksthat will create the maintainer scripts file10:47
didrockswithout you having to deal with symlinks10:47
sil2100didrocks: the local test-run showed that GTK_MODULES and the other variable are set correctly10:48
sil2100Oh, ok, I think I remember that solution, will use that instead10:49
didrockssil2100: ah good, so just this minor change ^10:49
didrocksand we are good to merge/rebuild the component :)10:49
didrocksand then, publish!10:49
didrockswith indicator-session stuck in proposed though10:49
seb128Laney, yeah, I just saw that, the header also doesn't go away when scrolling where it should, Saviq just pointed that to me a bit earlier in #ubuntu-unity10:50
Laneyseb128: It's OK I've fixed it now10:51
Laneywill MP in a second10:51
seb128Laney, what was the issue?10:51
seb128k, will see that10:51
seb128is that a clipping issue?10:51
Laneyuse anchors.fill: parent10:51
Laneyyou were setting the height which I guess messed it up10:52
Laneyhrm, the scrollbars aren't very good10:52
LaneyI tried adding one so you could scroll that huge list faster but I can't actually grab it10:52
seb128Laney, savig recommend "to increase max flicking velocity in "Software licenses" :D"10:53
Laneyhaha10:53
seb128<Savig> we went for:10:53
seb128<Saviq>     maximumFlickVelocity: height * 1010:53
seb128     flickDeceleration: height * 210:53
seb128that's what they did in unity810:53
Laneybut we don't have the Flickable there10:53
Laneyso it'd be global10:53
Laneymaybe that's OK?10:53
SaviqLaney, what do you mean, don't you have a ListView there?10:54
SaviqLaney, but anyway yeah, I'd say that's good to be global10:54
Laneyoh, I thought you set it on the Flickable10:54
SaviqLaney, ListView is a Flickable10:54
Laneyah10:54
Saviqa subclass, that is10:54
Laneylet me try that then10:55
LaneySaviq: is it known that the Scrollbar isn't very easy to interact with?10:55
SaviqLaney, I don't think it got the desired attention10:56
SaviqLaney, or that it in fact is supposed to be interactive?10:56
Laneyoh, it isn't?10:56
SaviqLaney, but we're not using it in unity8 so can't comment much10:56
Laneyit says it provides "Scrolling functionality"10:56
Laney...10:56
Laneyoh well10:57
Laneythose changes seem nicer, yeah10:58
Laneycool!10:58
seb128;-)10:59
sil2100didrocks: if anything, pushed the modified version of the branch ;)11:01
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didrockssil2100: hum, the version isn't right11:05
didrocksit should be 2013071611:05
didrocks"prior-version should be based on the version of the  package  that  you11:06
didrocks       are now preparing"11:06
didrocksfrom the manpage11:06
didrocksshould even be 20130716.1 now :)11:07
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didrockssil2100: to get things moving, I've published the apps stack FYI11:25
didrocksrobru: FYI ^11:25
didrockssil2100: same for phones and sdk stacks (because of the 2 new packages in distro)11:26
didrocksseb128: sil2100: mind looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/cupstream2distro-config/remove-unity-common/+merge/174979?11:27
didrocks(it passed, I published it and unity tests are now running)11:27
sil2100didrocks: looking11:40
sil2100didrocks: and fixing ;) The polish description wasn't really acurate in the manpage11:40
didrockssil2100: same in the french one11:41
didrockssil2100: I wonder if it's just not an old manpage with wrong info11:41
didrockswhen I read it, it struck me11:41
didrockshence LANG=C man… :p11:41
sil2100brr ;)11:41
sil2100didrocks: pushed!11:43
didrockssil2100: approved :) once merged, feel free to relaunch that component build in the indicator stack11:44
didrocksso, in a nutshell:11:45
didrocks- we are pending unity which are running tests right now11:45
didrocks- mir, I'm trying to get unity-system-compositor rebuilt against latest mir version11:45
didrocksand then running some unity tests with it11:46
didrocks- indicators: waiting on this merge before rebuilding that components on indicators11:46
didrockssil2100: you look at unity & indicators? (meanwhile, I think you have time for progressing on new components ;))11:46
sil2100Yep :)11:47
didrocksthanks!11:47
seb128didrocks, sorry, I was at lunch, I see that sil2100 approved it ;-)11:52
seb128didrocks, sil2100: can I disapprove you "remove the conffile?"11:59
sil2100seb128: what's up?11:59
seb128sil2100, you should use a .maintscript rather than doing it yourself by adding postinst, etc12:00
sil2100seb128: we did that12:00
sil2100seb128: we used a .maintscript indeed12:00
seb128ok, I got confused, the diff I got in my inbox was calling dpkg-maintscript from postinst12:00
sil2100That was the first version, then didrocks pointed me to a better way of doing that12:01
seb128oh, great then, ignore me ;-)12:01
seb128launchpad doesn't send new diffs when the merge proposals are updated :/12:01
sil2100didrocks: hm, do you think I could enable unity-greeter-session-broadcast for daily-releasing? Since tedg said it's ok, but the problem is it's almost completely empty ;) The sources are stubs, empty, not doing anything - probably daily-releasing could be good in the way that the developers will be able to test their stuff straight away, but hm, not sure about landing to distro12:05
sil2100didrocks: same for url-dispatcher - it's much better here, as there's at least some code, but ted said it's not used anywhere really12:08
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sil2100didrocks: I'm also picking up the packaging review of demo-assets and webapps-demo12:22
sil2100didrocks: ok, so I had a chat with Pat about demo-assets and webapps-demo, and he forwarded the latest discussion related to that to us12:42
sil2100didrocks: and it seems we won't be daily releasing those12:43
sil2100didrocks: webapps-demo will be renamed and released as a different thing12:45
didrockssil2100: is asac aware about it? ^ the discussion was about having webapps-demo daily release and not demo-assets12:59
didrockssil2100: on the stub -> no need to daily release apart if upstream needs that for anything12:59
didrockssil2100: but please, add a comment on daily_release: False with the date and rationale :)12:59
sil2100didrocks: I'll make sure he knows - as for webapps-demo I think we'll anyway have to wait for them to do the renaming and finishing the discussion13:00
didrockssil2100: right13:01
didrockssil2100: anything else pending? :)13:01
didrocksas daily_release: False13:01
sil2100didrocks: I'll be re-enabling ubuntu-geoip and url-dispatcher, since those I prepared and should be ok for daily-release13:03
seb128Laney, oh, small comment about the carrier panel, you probably want to center horizontally only, the design has the spinner at the top of the column, not in the middle13:04
seb128Laney, sorry I should have caught that on first review13:04
didrockssil2100: ok, I'll need to preNEW url-dispatcher13:05
sil2100I'll prepare the branch13:05
Laneyseb128: hmm, I didn't get that from the image since the container is small there13:07
seb128Laney, you mean from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=phone-settings-cellular-carrier-searching.png ?13:08
Laneyyeah13:08
LaneyI see what you see now13:08
seb128Laney, it's small but it's clearly at the top ;-)13:08
Laneybut to me I didn't get it13:08
seb128Laney, check with mpt though13:08
didrockssil2100: unity failed on the number of failing tests, mhr3 is aware?13:12
sil2100That's a LOT of failures13:14
sil2100Once he's online again, I'll inform him13:15
didrocksyeah, quite a lot of failures13:16
sil2100didrocks: ah, almost forgot: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/stacks_refresh_new_packages/+merge/17501313:18
didrockssil2100: private project -> please move to the online and bzr mv online no-dailies please :)13:19
didrocks(3rd time I guess ;))13:19
didrockssil2100: the rest looks good, I need to look at url-dispatcher13:20
didrockssil2100: url-dispatcher:13:22
didrocksCOPYING is GPL313:22
didrockssources are LGPL313:22
didrocksand debian/copyright mention gpl3, so need to be fixed as well13:22
seb128didrocks, feel free to bounce NEW pre-reviews my way if you want13:23
sil2100ACK13:23
sil2100:)13:23
seb128didrocks,  that can help your ETOOMUCH13:23
sil2100Missed that during review then!13:23
didrocksseb128: thanks! you will get the next one :p13:23
seb128cool ;-)13:23
* didrocks is sad seeing ascii ordered build-deps13:23
sil2100didrocks: will fix that too ;p It's wrap-and-sort's fault!13:24
didrockssil2100: not a blocker, just a sadness :p13:24
didrockssil2100: I tend for harmonizing the package to set pre-depends/multiarch before depends13:25
didrocks(see liburl-dispatcher1)13:25
didrocksand the -dev13:25
didrockssil2100: the -dev miss pre-depends btw13:25
didrockssil2100: debian/rules:13:26
didrocksDEBIAN_TARGET_DIR= is set13:26
didrocksbut not used13:26
didrocksand we can remove dh_install --fail-missing with just:13:26
didrocksdh $@ --fail-missing13:27
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didrockssil2100: ah, also, why does it build-dep on debian/control:               python3-dbusmock,13:29
didrockswhere there is no test at all?13:29
didrockssame for all the others test* build-deps13:29
didrockssil2100: ok, that it, once those sorted out, it can be ready for NEWing :)13:31
sil2100didrocks: all noted down, just modifying the cupstream2distro-config things ;)13:32
didrockssil2100: great!13:33
sil2100didrocks: no-dailies as the new name for online, yes?13:33
didrockssil2100: yeah, kind of explicit for me :)13:33
sil2100didrocks: modified and pushed the merge to cu2d-config13:36
sil2100I mean13:36
sil2100Modified the merge ;p13:36
sil2100(no push to trunk yet!)13:36
sil2100But hmm13:36
didrockssil2100: ok, I'm happy to approve it if you ensure that you will deploy only when url-dispatcher is ready ;)13:37
sil2100Actually, maybe I should use the occassion and move some other private, only for auto-landing projects there?13:37
sil2100Or maybe some different merge?13:37
sil2100Ok, let's do that in another merge, I promise to redeploy only when url-dispatcher is done13:38
didrockssil2100: oh, if there are others in head, yes please13:38
didrockssil2100: no, let's do in the same, no hurry for that one :)13:38
sil2100Right ;)13:39
sil2100Since I see a lot of projects with comments: daily_release: False #this is here just for the autolanding jobs13:39
didrockssil2100: we agree, no-dailies are for things that won't ever daily release13:39
didrocksyep :)13:39
asacsil2100: so what is done for webapps?13:40
asacrename and put in archive?13:40
asacrename/reshuffle13:40
didrockssil2100: so +1 on the packaging change for indicators stack now, you can publish13:45
sil2100asac: ah, sorry, I'm in the middle of lunch13:59
sil2100asac: as per inside discussion, there are plans for renaming webapps-demo to13:59
sil2100webapps-touch13:59
sil2100And then releasing it to the archive, as it's no longer a demo basically14:00
asaccool.~14:00
asacthis week?14:00
sil2100Not sure, sergiusens would know more probably14:00
sil2100But I guess so?14:01
* sil2100 publishes indicators in between bites14:01
jbichaseb128: attente: hey I uploaded ibus & indicator-keyboard to the desktop ppa14:08
seb128jbicha, hey, great, thanks14:08
seb128jbicha, I noticed your "no change rebuild" of nux which is in fact a new snapshot with changes (though only gmock/test ones so that ok)14:08
attentejbicha, thanks14:10
jbichaoops I shouldn't have used trunk for that14:10
jbichaone new issue is bug 120167914:10
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1201679 in unity (Ubuntu) "ibus' Super+Space shortcut (usually) doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120167914:10
seb128jbicha, wasn't both shift (or alt not sure) the default key for that before? maybe we could do that as a workaround14:11
jbichaI didn't rebuild every single ibus rdepends, it looks like ibus methods that aren't built against the new ibus will crash ibus so I at least rebuilt the more popular ones14:12
seb128ok14:12
seb128if that's the case the new ibus should probably breaks those on << rebuild_version14:12
jbichawell there's a new soname so it shouldn't be a problem for the regular archive14:13
seb128what is different between ppa and archive?14:13
seb128oh you mean britney will stop migration?14:13
jbicharight14:13
seb128it would mean there is still going to be an issue with partial upgrades14:14
seb128but we never fully supported those correctly anyway14:14
seb128e.g better to get right but that's not the end of the world if we don't14:14
kenvandineLaney, seb128: how do you feel about an API break in gsettings-qt?14:15
jbichawe could revert the keyboard shortcut temporarily but I think we should use Super+Space for 13.1014:15
seb128kenvandine, -114:15
kenvandinewe could bump the version and do it properly :)14:15
kenvandinebut there are only a couple consumers of it14:16
seb128jbicha, I don't want to block landing on that to be fixed in unity or we will still be there ins 3 monthes14:16
seb128kenvandine, what do you need to break api for?14:16
kenvandineseb128, larsu is adding the choices from the schema14:16
kenvandineand the nicer way of getting at the schema would require breaking API14:17
seb128kenvandine, why does it have to break api?14:17
seb128kenvandine, can you give me a before/after example of the api?14:17
* larsu cooks up examples14:17
kenvandinebecause you would need to specify the schema.id and schema.path14:17
seb128larsu, thanks ;-)14:17
seb128kenvandine, that seems more code for the simple cases...14:17
kenvandineseb128, the issue right now is you can't get at the schema14:18
kenvandinewell, how common are lists?14:18
kenvandineseems useful for all lists14:18
seb128not very common14:18
kenvandinelarsu, so perhaps the less nice route is good enough :)14:19
jbichaseb128: I don't think Unity should block ibus; we could just tell people to use Shift+Super+Space as a workaround14:19
kenvandinelarsu, could the schema.* properties be optional?14:19
larsuseb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5880967/14:20
seb128jbicha, well, it will block landing if the issue breaks some autopilot test in unity14:20
kenvandineseb128, it's a very simple change to existing code14:20
larsukenvandine: I don't know, I think not. Really the only thing I need is a way to hook into property setting, so that I can turn the schema string into an object14:20
seb128kenvandine, larsu: can we make "no path = path built from the id (replace . by /)"14:21
kenvandineright14:21
* seb128 hates paths in gsettings14:21
seb128it's confusing that you have an id and path14:21
* kenvandine agress14:21
kenvandineagrees even14:21
larsuseb128: ya, they're weird. But this is about the "schema." syntax14:21
seb128larsu, I'm fine with that14:22
kenvandineseb128, the real issue is he wants to change "schema" from a string to an object14:22
kenvandineyay... :)14:22
kenvandineseb128, should we bother bumping the API version and doing a transition?14:22
seb128sucks that Cimi made a mp to unity8 today to start reading the background key14:22
seb128kenvandine, do whatever you need to make sure we don't break unity814:22
kenvandineor just cowboy it in and make sure we change it everywhere14:22
kenvandineoh... unit8 uses it now14:22
seb128I don't care how the transition is handled14:22
seb128kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/unity8.background_gsettings/+merge/17495814:23
seb128not approved yet in fact14:23
kenvandineyay14:23
seb128kenvandine, maybe block the mp on the changes if they come soon14:23
kenvandinemaybe we can hold on that :)14:23
kenvandinelarsu, how soon can you do this?14:23
larsuseb128: cool. Let me look through the docs again in case I've missed something14:23
larsukenvandine: I'll do it today14:23
kenvandineSaviq, ^^14:23
kenvandineSaviq, we want to break the API for gsettings-qt... mind if i block that MP until we land that?14:24
Saviqkenvandine, no, it's fine14:24
kenvandinegreat14:24
Saviqkenvandine, please comment on the MP, though14:25
kenvandinewill do14:25
larsuSaviq: hey you know qml... if I have a QObject-derived property, can I initialize that with a string from qml? (and have that string passed into the consructor or a special property of my object?)14:26
larsu*constructor14:26
Saviqlarsu, no14:26
kenvandinelarsu, we don't need schema.path right?14:26
Saviqlarsu, you need a default constructor14:26
kenvandineschema.id is enough generally?14:26
Saviqlarsu, default == (QObject* parent = 0)14:27
Saviqlarsu, the properties will be then set up on the object as set in QML, but the object itself is always constructed with just a parent14:27
larsuSaviq: and there's no notion of a default property that gets assigned to? I know this works for children...14:30
larsukenvandine: why not?14:30
kenvandinewith the current API we only need to set the schema14:30
kenvandinenot the path14:30
larsuokay, I included it for completeness sake14:31
sil2100didrocks: ok, back14:34
sil2100didrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/url-dispatcher/additional_packaging_changes/+merge/17503014:35
sil2100didrocks: and updated the cu2d-config merge14:35
didrockssil2100: you imove pre-depends, but not multiarch14:36
didrockssil2100: and you only did that on liburl-dispatcher1, not the -dev14:36
didrocksapart from that, the rest looks good14:36
sil2100Oh, I think I made that move subconciously, forgot about that, didn't intend that even ;)14:37
sil2100Fixing!14:37
sil2100didrocks: I also added the missing pre-depends to the other -dev14:39
didrockssil2100: you adde the multiarch to it as well?14:39
didrocksshould be same14:39
didrocksyeah, diff looks good!14:40
didrocksaapproving :)14:40
didrockssil2100: mind pointing me to your cupstream2distro-config branch again?14:41
sil2100https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/stacks_refresh_new_packages/+merge/17501314:42
didrocksdanke14:43
didrockssil2100: approved :)14:44
sil2100Thank youu!14:48
sil2100Doumo arigato gozaimasuuu~!14:48
sil2100didrocks: fixing the url-dispatcher merge ;)14:59
didrockssil2100: thanks!14:59
didrockssil2100: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/cupstream2distro-config/add-unity-test-to-mir/+merge/17504415:24
sil2100didrocks: many tests!15:27
didrockssil2100: yep, 75 ;)15:27
didrockscarefully selected!15:27
didrockssil2100: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/share-app/fix-lintian-errors/+merge/168013 it seems this one was never reviewed15:27
didrockssil2100: mind doing it?15:28
didrockssil2100: also, for the meeting, can you prepare the list of packages to clean that are not done still?15:28
sil2100didrocks: both approved!15:29
didrockssil2100: I see an (OK) along share-app15:29
sil2100didrocks: will do, just will finish the thing with qtubuntu15:29
didrockssil2100: but apparently, this merged wasn't done15:29
didrockssil2100: so not sure what the (OK) means :p15:29
seb128qengho, mlankhorst, Sweetshark, Laney, tkamppeter, attente, desrt, larsu: hey, it's meeting time15:30
Laneyso it is15:30
sil2100Uh, I was sure that I checked share-app and it didn't have any lintian errors, but probably my delusions ;)15:30
* sil2100 silences himself for the time of the meeting15:30
seb128(sorry, still busy hacking settings stuff)15:31
seb128let's get started15:31
seb128I hope everyone is fine ;-)15:31
qengho- releasing chromium-browser 28.0.1500.71 soon15:31
qengho- with some build-time test verification15:31
qengho- and autopkgtests15:31
qengho- which upstream didn't release as tarball and I had to checkout and strip15:31
qengho- Todo: think about re-enabling translations from Launchpad.15:31
qenghoEOF15:31
seb128qengho, hey15:31
seb128lol15:31
Laneyhaha15:31
qenghoTemporal error!15:31
desrtfscking threads15:31
qenghoI rigknow,ht?15:32
seb128qengho, still not menus (and annoying webapps questions I guess, I disabled that one) in saucy... when do you plan to get an update for those?15:32
mlankhorsthey15:32
qenghoseb128: hrm, I can't make the ARM builders not break.  :(15:33
seb128qengho, you got the current upload in saucy proper, it built on armhf15:34
seb128qengho, but the menus are still broken in that version15:34
seb128qengho, you didn't get the update that went to other series uploaded to saucy15:34
qenghoseb128: Er, in any case, this new version has it.15:34
seb128ok15:34
seb128let's wait for that then15:34
seb128qengho, thanks15:35
seb128mlankhorst, hey15:35
mlankhorstupload new wine to ppa, updated xorg-server to 1.14.215:35
mlankhorstinvestigating panda installer issues15:35
mlankhorstand uploaded a fixed osmesa to saucy15:35
mlankhorstthat's it for me, I think15:35
seb128mlankhorst, thanks15:35
seb128Sweetshark, hey, back in Europe in one piece?15:36
mlankhorstoh right, add mir support to sna, and fix ati + mir15:36
desrtmlankhorst: hey.  are you doing wine stuff these days?15:36
Sweetsharkseb128: yes15:36
mlankhorstdesrt: sort of, I maintain multimedia.git15:36
desrtmlankhorst: i had a longstanding request for scott when he was doing wine stuff, but it seems he's not involved anymore15:36
Sweetsharkseb128: not many news -- tweaking SRUs, working on an upstream Ubuntu tinderbox.15:36
desrtfedora has this amazingly awesome setup of wine integration with their mingw32 cross-compiler15:37
seb128desrt, mlankhorst: /query for chatting please15:37
desrtwe could really use this...15:37
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desrtseb128: it's a meeting.  i'm asking a question :p15:37
seb128Sweetshark, ok, thanks15:37
seb128desrt, seems rather a pet project from mlankhorst than a work time item15:38
seb128but let's move on ;-)15:38
desrtfair enough...15:38
seb128Laney, hey15:38
Laneyhi15:39
Laneydistracted by filing an MP :P15:39
Laneysystem-settings:15:39
Laney∘ backend work15:39
Laney‣ launch straight to a panel,15:39
Laney‣ don't error on unimplemented panels15:39
Laney‣ sort the grid according to priority15:39
Laney∘ Use CrossFadeImage from the SDK for background panel15:39
seb128;-)15:39
Laney∘ Implement cellular UI15:39
Laney∘ A few small fixes15:39
Laney• Write a gsettings-qt demo for (hopefully) d.u.c if we get the situation around applications being able to use GSettings cleared up.15:39
Laney• Update gstreamer to 1.0.8, find a weird libtool-related bug, spend some time tracking it down.15:39
Laney• Spend an afternoon and random other slices of time fixing software-center's autopkgtests to finally pass. Should be landing in Saucy soon.15:39
Laney• A lot of annoying mlankhorst culminating in a livecd-rootfs patch to fix the omap4 image build failures.15:39
Laney• Melted. That pool didn't arrive yet. Jason‽15:39
seb128hehe15:39
desrtinteresting use of bullets15:39
seb128Laney, did you sort out the omap4 issue at the end?15:40
Laneythey look better in tomboy15:40
Laneyseb128: that's what the MP is for15:40
seb128great15:40
seb128Laney, thanks15:41
seb128tkamppeter__, hey15:41
* Laney looks at buying a fan15:41
desrtattente's time to shine!15:43
seb128no tkamppeter__ it seems15:43
seb128desrt, indeed15:43
seb128attente, hey15:43
attentehi15:43
attenteg-s-d and ibus MPs fixing15:43
attentecontinued language settings panel, trying to figure out display language switching15:43
attenteeof15:43
seb128attente, the new ibus is in the desktop ppa (if you didn't notice)15:44
desrt(bonus points) over the weekend, wrote improved support for GMenuModel on mac osx15:44
seb128attente, what "display language switching"?15:44
attenteseb128, from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LanguageAndText#phone-language15:44
seb128attente, ok, anything in particular you have issue with?15:45
seb128attente, feel free to ask on the channel for ideas from other/input/help if you get blocked15:46
attenteimplementing it in a way that won't require restarting the session i guess15:46
desrtattente: lol.15:46
larsulol15:46
desrt"good luck"15:46
attentei think it can be done...15:46
larsudesrt: you owe me a beer‽15:46
seb128attente, that's why I was asking, don't try to make gettext dynamic15:46
desrtattente: ya... seriously... don't go there15:47
desrtmadless lies on this path15:47
seb128right15:47
larsumadless if the opposite of madful?15:47
seb128attente, your side should be to write the env variable or the setting15:47
desrt*madness15:47
seb128then let the shell guys handle what they want to do to apply it15:47
larsu;)15:47
desrtthrow it into the account service and be done with it15:47
desrttalk to stefw about what you should be doing here and make sure you're in sync with his ideas15:48
attentei don't think we have account service on the phone, do we?15:48
seb128we do15:48
seb128the background panel access it to get some background info15:48
seb128if you need an example of setting panel using it15:48
attenteok15:49
seb128attente, btw, looking at indicator-keyboard, did you ever look at making unity-greeter read the new keyboard config?15:49
seb128attente, the greeter has a custom/simplified indicator and I think that's still reading the old config15:49
seb128attente, would be nice if you could have a look to what lightdm is exactly doing there15:49
attenteright, ok15:49
attentesure15:49
seb128attente, thanks!15:49
seb128desrt, your turn ;-)15:50
desrtseb128: was wondering if we'd ever finish with attente  :)15:50
seb128hehe15:50
desrtso i did some minor bugfixing in dconf15:50
desrtcleaned up the build system a lot (new automake seems stricter about some things)15:50
seb128do you plan to backport that fix to 0.16.n?15:50
desrtupdated the esperanto tranlation by 2 strings ;)15:50
desrtseb128: the threadsafety one?15:50
desrtprobably i should, i guess15:50
seb128yes15:50
desrti'll put it on my todo list15:50
seb128thanks15:50
desrtdid a release15:50
desrti also landed two changes to the freedesktop.org desktop file specification15:51
desrtthe first one is the long-discussed dbus application launching changes15:51
desrtthe second one is the removal of OnlyShowIn from actions (sorry... the list spoke...)15:51
desrtwe're looking at doing a final 1.1 release of the spec soon15:51
desrtreworked (removing OnlyShowIn) and landed the GIO patch for the action API now15:52
seb128ok15:52
desrtalso finished landing the support for client-side launching of dbus activatable applications15:52
seb128(no worry, I knew it would end this way, I told you before you make me email the list anyway :p)15:52
desrtand found and fixed some issues in the gapplication side of the service implementation15:52
desrtfinally, i wrote a commandline client tool to access all of this new wonderful stuff15:52
desrtso you can say like 'gapplication action org.gnome.gedit quit' or such15:53
desrtwith all the usual glib niceities like tab-completion on application ids and action names, etc.15:53
desrt(eof)15:53
seb128nice15:53
seb128looking forward trying that (once it settles down and hit the archive through releases)15:54
seb128desrt, thanks15:54
seb128larsu, hey15:54
desrtthere are some issues people are finding15:54
larsu[not a very productive week for me so far, I wasn't feeling too well the last two days]15:54
desrtthe dbus launching is great for normal usages... but it makes development a bit annoying15:54
larsu- indicator-sound: finally landed end of last week after a last round of changes15:54
larsu- gsettings-qt: emit a signal when a key changes, expose key choices, make list values qml listmodels (ongoing, MRs following)15:54
larsu- slowly getting started with indicator-messages (helped ken get started with the phone API by writing some examples and debugged some issues with it)15:54
desrtsince dbus activation of services doesn't really work well vs. jhbuild, for example15:54
seb128desrt, right, I read that yesterday15:55
larsuoh, eof.15:55
seb128larsu, oh, get some rest if you don't feel well!15:55
larsuseb128: it's getting better today, thanks :)15:55
seb128good15:55
seb128larsu, oh, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/12.10.2+13.10.20130716-0ubuntu1 just hit saucy btw15:56
seb128(the gmenu based version)15:56
larsuseb128: I'm very happy about that ... and a bit afraid15:56
seb128hehe15:56
seb128let's keep an eye on bug reports15:56
larsudefinitely15:56
seb128larsu, thanks15:56
seb128so my turn15:57
seb128* System settings work:15:57
seb128- set up the online accounts for translations15:57
seb128- fixed a couple of translation issues (wrong domain in use)15:57
seb128- implemented the "licenses" subpanel15:57
seb128- replaced some custom code by qtsystem15:57
seb128- debugged qtsystem/ofono integration code (got it fixed as well, waiting for didrocks to upload the update)15:57
seb128- implemented the UI for silent mode15:57
seb128- some ui tweaks15:57
seb128- made the apps sorting actual sort15:57
seb128* some updates and some bug fix SRUs15:57
didrocksseb128: you can review qtsystem as well btw ;)15:57
didrocksseb128: that will give Mirv more uploaders for upload rights later on15:58
seb128* some sponsors15:58
seb128sponsoring15:58
seb128</week>15:58
seb128didrocks, oh, I did, I've been running it locally for a week and got it tested on the nexus7, it's good for upload15:58
didrocksseb128: so please do + NEW it (you asked me what to NEW!) that would be appreciated ;)15:58
seb128didrocks, I just though there was some special workflow/stuff you wanted to check because Mirv said you would be the one uploading15:59
seb128didrocks, it's already in saucy, that's just a version update15:59
didrocksseb128: hum, not really for things not under daily15:59
didrocksah even better, so please do :)15:59
seb128didrocks, ok, misunderstanding then, will do15:59
seb128didrocks, thanks ;-)15:59
didrocksthanks to you!15:59
seb128didrocks, oh, and you are just on time for your half of the meeting15:59
LaneySo we don't have accountsservice on the images atm btw15:59
seb128thanks everyone!15:59
LaneyI deliberately made it handle that not being available15:59
seb128Laney, I guess it's coming soon since they plan to use it for the greeter datas16:00
Laneyright, I do hope so16:00
Laneyjus' sayin :-)16:00
seb128k, I overlooked that16:00
seb128maybe we should depends on it :p16:00
LaneyWell I didn't want to drag it in if it's otherwise unused16:00
Laneyas we only use it passively so far16:00
Laneyanyway, </half-of-meeting>16:01
attenteis there something we will definitely need it for?16:01
* didrocks waits :p16:02
Laneyhaha16:03
attenteoh. sorry didrocks :)16:03
Laneyit'll be there for the greeter at least, as said16:03
Laneycarry on!16:03
LaneyI wasn't answering to let you start :P16:03
didrocks;)16:03
didrockssil2100: kenvandine: robru: cyphermox_: hey! how are you guys?16:03
didrocksmirv is on holidays this week FYI16:03
didrocksmeeting time!16:03
robrudidrocks, good morning. I am not feeling too well today :-(16:03
cyphermox_not bad not bad16:04
didrocksrobru: urgh, eat something bad?16:04
robrudidrocks, no... didn't sleep well though. dunno. only got a few hours16:04
didrocksurgh :/16:04
didrockstry to take a nap today16:04
sil2100Hello!16:05
robruyeah16:05
sil2100Working hard16:05
sil2100;/16:05
didrocksok, let's start!16:05
didrockshttps://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDk72Lpx8U5dHFtUmlPOUtCRk8zR2dtaEpIbUVhMmc#gid=016:05
didrocks"Finding the root cause of the Unity autopilot problems, with the DBus hang-ups"16:05
didrockssil2100: good progress and hope to be able to daily release unity again, right?16:05
sil2100didrocks: right! Yesss16:05
sil2100We probably got the fix16:06
didrocks\o/16:06
didrocksso, let's hope tomorrow will be a nice and bright day :)16:06
didrocksmoving to16:06
didrocks"Qt 5 saucy snapshot module updates"16:06
sil2100didrocks: the HUD stack is re-built, since I'd like to re-run unity ASAP16:06
didrockssil2100: sweet!16:06
didrockssil2100: and indicators manual publishing done as I saw ;)16:06
didrockseven if Mirv is on holidays: FYI, we pushed most of the Qt modules to distro16:07
sil2100Yep ;)16:07
didrocksI think on the list, just qtsystems is there and seb128 will deal with it16:07
didrockskenvandine: "daily release of libpam-freerdp"16:07
didrockskenvandine: I saw a MP just few minutes ago, you're cheating? ;)16:07
kenvandinecheating?16:07
didrocksor rather "just in time" :p16:07
kenvandinei pushed it yesterday... just forgot to propose it :)(16:08
didrocksheh :)16:08
kenvandineuntil i reviewed the spreadsheet, nice reminder :)16:08
didrockskenvandine: approved btw :)16:08
didrockskenvandine: I'll pull on the daily release machinery16:08
didrocksand refresh the whitelist16:08
didrocksonce merged16:08
didrocksjust deploy it please :)16:08
didrocksand ask jibel to create the view16:09
mlankhorstdanvet: blah, nouveau still fails, I guess I'll try a swapout_all call on succesfull locking and fix any issue arising from that..16:09
kenvandinedidrocks, thanks16:09
didrockskenvandine: yw!16:09
kenvandinewill do16:09
didrocksok, now the big item(Tm)16:09
didrockscomponents with daily_release: False16:09
mlankhorstugh :P16:09
didrocksrobru: sil2100: any update? ^16:09
sil2100didrocks: working on finishing the missed ones, no time for updating!16:10
sil2100didrocks: let's say a final deadline - tomorrow16:10
robrudidrocks, well, I guess I am waiting for an archive admin to NEW unity-webapps-qml? the packaging work is done and the -config branch is ready for landing.16:10
sil2100Tomorrow all has to be resolved or you cut off my head16:10
didrocksrobru: ok, so I can review it if needed16:10
didrockssil2100: excellent!16:10
robrudidrocks, yes, i think that is needed16:10
didrocksrobru: then, let's fix after the meeting your credentials16:10
robrudidrocks, yes please16:10
didrockssil2100: so then, no more daily_release: False that are pending us? :)16:11
didrockseverything having daily_release: False have a comment telling why?16:11
didrocks(and stuff that will never get under daily releases are moved to no-dailies/)16:11
sil2100Let me check the list, uno momento16:11
sil2100didrocks: the webapps-* related ones I asked robru to look into, as he knows his way around that16:11
didrocksrobru: it's unity-webapps-qml, that's it?16:12
sil2100didrocks: as for others, I still need to add 2 more comments probably - since I don't know if compiz and ubuntu-ui-extras have any comments16:12
sil2100didrocks: on compiz we're blocked on the regression16:12
didrockssil2100: ah ok, compiz is still waiting for the regression to be fixed16:12
didrocksyep :)16:12
sil2100didrocks: the other, well, the project is empty ;/16:12
didrocksnot sure about ubuntu-ui-extras16:13
didrockssil2100: so maybe we can kill it :p16:13
didrocksbetter to check with upstream though16:13
sil2100didrocks: there are some sub-branches, but couldn't find Ugo to ask about those16:13
didrocksok16:13
didrockssil2100: please dig in!16:13
didrocksnext item is again sil2100 :)16:13
sil2100Trying, but hm, I can't find him anywhere - maybe he changed nicknames?16:13
didrockssil2100: maybe ask osomon? he would know16:13
didrockssil2100: the cleanup is done? every components that went into NEW now have are cleaned?16:14
robrudidrocks, sil2100: the few remaining webapps that have daily_release: False I think are just stubs that do not do much of anything. I've asked alex-abreu about this a couple times but never got as clear of an answer as I would have liked. other than that, we are still waiting for better tests before we enable daily_release for unity-chromium-extension and unity-firefox-extension16:14
robrusil2100, Ugo is on holidays.16:14
sil2100didrocks: same as with daily_release: False, deadline for tomorrow - since there are those I missed and those merges need to go in16:14
didrocksrobru: ok, please add a comment after daily_release: False to state so16:15
sil2100didrocks: and the qtubuntu-sensors issue I finally was able to resolve with upstream, now just a fix16:15
didrocksrobru: if a component is just a stub we'll never daily release to distro, move it to the16:15
didrocksno-dailies/ directory16:15
didrocks(previously called "online")16:15
didrocksin stack/no-dailies/16:15
didrockssil2100: great, so tomorrow will be marked as DONE? :)16:15
alex-abreurobru, argh I did not give you a clear answer? sorry, I thought I did, on which webapps specifically?16:15
sil2100robru: see my latest commits to cu2d-config as 'reference'16:15
alex-abreurobru, sil2100 rvr is working on the tests16:16
sil2100didrocks: yes ;) (no probably, it's live-or-die)16:16
robrualex-abreu, well you gave me a clear answer about subwayirc ;-) but there were a couple times I asked you to tell me which ones were dead and you never got back to me.16:16
sil2100I mean, no 'probably', just 'for sure'16:16
didrocks;)16:16
alex-abreurobru, my bad, ... the task got tossed back and I forgot about it16:17
robrualex-abreu, in particular I have the impression that the game ones are all dead (angrybirds, cuttherope, tiberiumalliances, etc) but it's not clear to me if they can be fixed or if they should be deleted.16:17
didrocksrobru: while alex-abreu is answering, do you get anywhere with the SRU for webapps?16:18
didrocksrobru: don't hesitate to track that on the spreadsheet btw, it's a nice reminder as kenvandine noticed :p16:19
didrockskenvandine: you can mark the task as DONE btw :p16:19
robrudidrocks, which SRU? I did a bunch last week and ken sponsored them, but the SRU team only reviewed one of them so far. As for the SRU for unity-chromium-extension, well, I was waiting for that to land in distro before moving forward with teh SRU but I guess I could do that today.16:20
didrocksrobru: I meant the webapps* SRUs ;)16:20
robrudidrocks, the only SRU that I'm aware of that requires my action is unity-chromium-extension. All the other SRUs that I'm responsible for are waiting for the SRU team to approve them.16:21
didrocksrobru: need a help to poke them? :)16:21
robrudidrocks, I guess?16:22
didrockssil2100: speaking of SRUs, did you sent an email about Xim support in unity precise to the SRU team?16:22
didrocksrobru: will do then :)16:22
sil2100didrocks: pushed re-merged with trunk https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/share-app/fix_lintian_errors/+merge/17505316:23
didrockssil2100: approved (and see my question about SRU :p)16:23
alex-abreudidrocks, SRU for webapps?16:23
sil2100didrocks: not yet, doing it now - I'll send it to Scott, Steve and maybe Adam?16:23
didrockssil2100: sounds like a good list16:24
sil2100Since Colin didn't want to help ;p16:24
didrocksalex-abreu: no, robru's question about packages that are abandonned16:24
didrocksFYI, Mir is coming soon, I stole some unity tests, and now prepping the latest things with upstream to have all those component daily releasing ASAP to distro (but we have some blockers)16:24
alex-abreurobru, yeah the game ones are mostly shims ... and are useless at this point16:24
robrualex-abreu, oh great, I'm happy to delete them ;-)16:25
didrocksalso, got a lot of discussion on unity8 (daily releasing to a ppa) to get into distro, but there is a lot of issues involved (mostly that we don't have surfaceflingers and the Mir-compatible unity8 isn't ready yet)16:25
didrocksrobru: please do (in fire! ;))16:25
didrockscyphermox_: hey! didn't really see anything you are attributed, anything to share with us?16:25
alex-abreumaybe I shouldn't have said that ... the IRC logs will be held against me16:25
cyphermox_didrocks: nah16:26
didrocks(ah, and google-mock transition done btw)16:26
cyphermox_still debugging bluetooth and nmglib issues16:26
cyphermox_has libhud-qt been merged?16:26
didrockscyphermox_: not sure what merge you are talking about :)16:26
didrockswe had dailies that sil2100 and I unblocked16:27
cyphermox_well, I see it's merged so all good16:27
cyphermox_rev 4716:27
didrocksgreat!16:27
didrockskenvandine: FYI, there will be some new components and incoming transition on the phone stack16:27
didrockskenvandine: I'll forward you the email about it16:28
didrocksthat being said, that's it for me, any question?16:28
didrocksok, I think that's a wrap16:30
didrocksthanks everyone!16:30
kenvandinedidrocks, cool, thx16:31
sil2100Thanks!16:34
sil2100:)16:34
seb128desrt, pitti: do you know what component in GNOME is supposed to inhibit systemd's shutdown?16:45
seb128e.g so you get a session dialog when pressing the power button16:46
seb128rather than having shutdown to happen16:46
desrtgnome-session, i'd guess16:46
desrtvia the session management dbus protocol16:46
Trevinhodesrt.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd-shim/+bug/120118016:46
ubot2`Ubuntu bug 1201180 in systemd-shim (Ubuntu) "Pressing power button turns off the PC ignoring the presence of another session manager" [Undecided,New]16:46
desrtTrevinho: this is most definitely not a systemd-shim bug16:46
Trevinhofrom what I see the gnome-session we have in ubuntu is compiled without systemd support,.16:47
Trevinhomaybe that?16:47
desrtit's something between gnome-session and logind16:47
desrtpitti would probably know more16:47
TrevinhoIt seems it's using still policykit..16:47
pittidesrt, seb128: yes, it's done in gnome-session16:50
pittignome-session/gsm-systemd.c16:50
Trevinhoerr, I meant consolekit of course... :/16:50
* pitti waves good night16:50
seb128is it?16:50
seb128that's not wanted if that's the case16:51
seb128pitti, night16:51
seb128Trevinho, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/143373244/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-i386.gnome-session_3.8.2.1-1ubuntu4_UPLOADING.txt.gz16:51
Trevinhoseb128: yeah I saw it was there... but it doesn't seem to work :)16:51
seb128"        Session tracking:         systemd (with fallback to ConsoleKit)"16:51
pittiseb128: why not, gnome-session is supposed to display the shutdown dialog, is it not?16:51
Trevinhoseb128: ah, ok.. I only quickly checked the debian rules and it looked it ddidn't that16:52
Trevinhopitti: it is...16:52
seb128pitti, Trevinho said it was compiled "without" systemd16:52
seb128Trevinho, it has --enable-systemd in there16:52
seb128pitti, which I said was not wanted, e.g we want to build *with* systemd16:52
Trevinhoseb128: so ignore me.. I probably looked at the wrong source16:52
pittiseb128: correct16:54
desrtLaney, seb128: dconf 0.16.1 released16:54
seb128desrt, thanks16:54
Trevinhopitti: however, here it seems that the gnome-session inhibit is ignored by systemd...16:54
Laneydesrt: cheers16:55
LaneyI'll add it to me list16:55
seb128Laney, there is a new glib out as well, but it didn't seem to have anything really interesting, we might just want to skip this one16:55
desrtseb128: and miss out on the updated catalan translation?!?16:56
desrtare you insane?16:56
desrtseb128: fwiw, 703437 GDBusConnection: be more careful with async GetAll is major16:56
desrtbut i think you already cherry-picked this one?16:56
seb128desrt, we backported that one16:56
seb128yes16:56
seb128that's the one that was making rhythmbox hangs on start16:56
desrtit was causing problems for attente as well16:57
Laneyso I don't see that there's a shutdown inhibitor16:57
desrtya... nothing else in that release is very important, though16:57
jbichawhat should we do for bug 1194138? should we always run ibus-daemon? and should we do it through /etc/xdg/autostart or with a upstart user session?16:57
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1194138 in Indicator keyboard "ibus-daemon doesn't autostart" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119413816:57
seb128Laney, you mean there is no such inhibitor in logind?16:59
Laneyno16:59
attentejbicha, i'm not sure why you had that problem16:59
LaneyI mean that there isn't one set in my session16:59
seb128oh16:59
attenteibus-daemon is always autostarting on my end16:59
seb128Laney, that seems to be the bug Trevinho is reporting ;-)16:59
jbichaattente: nothing autostarts ibus; I just verified with a brand new Ubuntu install16:59
seb128attente, probably because you went to the ibus preferences and checked that box16:59
seb128that adds an autostart to the user dir iirc17:00
seb128ls ~/.local/share/autostart ?17:00
seb128ups17:00
attentehm. i don't seem to have that dir17:00
seb128ls ~/.config/autostart/17:00
seb128sorry17:00
seb128thinko ;-)17:00
seb128I confused applications/ and autostart/17:01
bschaeferdid you set ibus as the active im through im-config?17:01
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attentehmm.. nothing except dropbox.desktop in here either..17:01
attentebschaefer, that might be it17:01
sil2100didrocks: quick question!17:01
didrockssil2100: yes?17:01
bschaeferattente, that'll cause ibus-daemon to autostart17:02
sil2100didrocks: since I re-ran HUD right now... it passed, and is in manual publish (due to the indicators) - can I publish it once I see that unity is better because of HUD?17:02
attentebschaefer, yep, that makes sense17:02
didrockssil2100: sure sure, please do ;)17:02
attentethanks!17:03
seb128bschaefer, attente: sorry, I though it was doing that through autostart ...17:03
sil2100didrocks: for now I don't want to publish something I don't know that 100% helps, so I run unity with 'check whole PPA'17:03
jbichabschaefer: do you know what that sets and should we do it by default?17:03
bschaefernp! after you set it you'll have to restart X17:03
didrockssil2100: sounds good :)17:03
seb128jbicha, we should probably use upstart for that (like for e.g at-spi)17:05
seb128jbicha, check with stgraber though,  probably have an opinion on it17:05
seb128or Laney if he isn't too busy17:06
bschaeferjbicha, there are some scripts that set some env variables that applications use to tell what the default IM is17:06
* bschaefer looks up the env var17:06
jbichamaybe we could do an on/off switch in Text Entry Settings for it (since half the world doesn't need ibus running)?17:06
bschaeferjbicha, it sets XMODIFIERS, which isn't 100% needed to actually use IMs it just seems to be the standard way to do things...17:06
Laneyseb128: I don't know17:07
LaneyI'd talk to happyaron about this setup though17:07
seb128Laney, well, in the "new world" we are going to use ibus for changing e.g keyboard layouts as well, so it should probably run for everybody17:07
seb128jbicha, can you follow up on the mailing list, reply to my email to point that the new ibus is in the ppa for those who want to test ... and maybe ask there about the autostart?17:09
jbichaseb128: sure, I was just about to ask you whether I should follow up on the list :)17:10
larsukenvandine: so a major drawback of the approach I suggested is that I need to cache all the metadata for keys (like the range) all the time17:10
larsukenvandine: because qml doesn't allow lazy properties17:10
* larsu is thinking it might not be worth it after all17:10
larsubecause realistically, those things won't get accessed a lot (only in settings-type UIs)17:11
seb128jbicha, thanks ;-)17:11
larsuand each key would be a QObject...17:11
kenvandinelarsu, indeed17:11
larsukenvandine: is settings.schema.range('mykey') acceptable?17:12
larsuthis would require the same API breakage, btw17:12
kenvandinewould that give me a listmodel?17:12
kenvandinenot sure if i like range17:13
kenvandinechoices17:13
larsuwell, range would be for numbers17:13
kenvandineah17:13
larsuchoices for enums17:13
kenvandineok17:13
larsuor... 'enums'17:13
kenvandineyup17:13
larsuactually choices is better :)17:13
kenvandinechoices is how the schema refers to it17:13
kenvandineso might be better17:13
larsukenvandine: if you want a listmodel you shall get a list model17:13
kenvandinelarsu, yay :)17:18
sil2100robru: are you still around?17:25
robrusil2100, yeah, what's up?17:26
robruugh, who broke jenkins?17:27
sil2100robru: we saw your recent webapps-applications merge that got published, the one with the Breaks:17:27
robrusil2100, ok...17:28
sil2100robru: didrocks pointed out that it would be better  to use versioned conflicts later on17:28
robrusil2100, what versions? we want to totally remove every version of those packages. we want to obliterate those from existence.17:28
robrufginther, having some trouble with jenkins CI. some kind of connection issue. https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/unity-webapps-qml/fix-copyright/+merge/17507217:29
robrufginther, here's another one, different project/branch https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity-firefox-extension-13.04-raring-armhf-autolanding/1/console17:30
jbichaseb128: unity trunk builds against the ibus stack so I guess there isn't an autopkgtest for keyboard shortcut to switch keyboard layouts yet17:31
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seb128jbicha, ok17:36
Laney[pid  6011] inotify_add_watch(12, "/sys/fs/cgroup/systemd/machine", IN_MOVED_TO|IN_CREATE|IN_DELETE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)18:04
LaneyThat's why sd_login_monitor_new fails18:04
seb128Laney, is that the inhibitor issue18:05
LaneyNot sure, but it seems suspicious to me18:05
seb128desrt_, ^18:05
LaneyYou get gnome-session.distrib[30344]: WARNING: Error getting login monitor: -218:05
LaneyI guess it's more a pitti thing18:06
desrt_seb128: not sure why this interests me :)18:06
seb128desrt_, it might be rather a systemd's issue for pitti or stgraber18:06
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desrtindeed.18:06
seb128desrt, the ping was mostly a fyi, pitti called it a day already18:06
seb128Laney, yeah, let's check with pitti tomorrow18:06
desrtnod18:06
seb128Laney, thanks for debugging ;-)18:07
seb128Trevinho, ^18:07
Laneysure18:07
Laneyfeels like bike ride time now18:07
Laneyttyl18:07
seb128dinner time here18:08
seb128Laney, enjoy!18:08
seb128bbl18:08
fgintherrobru, thanks for the notice. I've fixed the issue on ps-panda-218:09
nessitahello desktop crowd! quick question: would you please advice if you suggest to ping someone in particular regarding LP #1201528?18:11
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1201528 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[Realtek ALC889] - Audio Playback Unavailable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120152818:11
Laneypitti: There's some systemd commits around moving to a new /run/systemd/machines hierarchy, such as http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/src/core/cgroup.c?id=a32360f1a5a85c12f00e9dfb7353280067cccb5b18:14
Laneyto start your investigations off ;-)18:14
* Laney leaves18:14
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seb128nessita, hey, how are you?19:17
seb128nessita, try pinging TheMuso` or diwic, TheMuso` might be easier to reach at this time19:18
nessitaseb128, hola!!! how is it going?19:25
nessitaI can't find diwic, he must be eod'd19:25
seb128nessita, right, try TheMuso` (he should be soon online)19:26
seb128nessita, long time not seen, how are you?19:26
seb128nessita, I'm good thanks19:26
nessitaseb128, I'm pretty good, doing mostly server side work (django and python)19:27
nessitaMissing some desktop work :-)19:27
seb128nessita, we miss you too ;-)19:29
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LaneyWhat is the problem with the software licenses page?19:57
LaneyI can't tell what the difference is before and after19:57
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seb128Laney, on the desktop, when you scroll wheel down, the text of the rows goes over the header here19:58
seb128Laney, it was there before, your update just didn't fix it19:59
LaneyI don't see that19:59
Laneyhttp://ubuntuone.com/5jFzMTZQhWHF4ryeYTSCoS20:00
seb128Laney, is that what you get when opening the panel?20:02
Laneywhen I scroll down20:03
Laneyon opening it's normal20:03
Laneyhttp://ubuntuone.com/6A1hKgNKywq1o5WKBUm4K920:03
seb128Laney, it's possible that I didn't get your fix yet, I'm rebuilding20:03
kenvandineLaney, it's only while scrolling20:04
seb128kenvandine, Laney: it's actually fixed with trunk for me20:05
kenvandinehumm20:05
kenvandineso maybe it did properly detect the flickable like we thought it should20:06
Laneyit just disappears like it's supposed to?!20:06
LaneyI did test it :P20:06
kenvandine:)20:06
seb128it does yes20:06
seb128still I don't get why the height stuff was wrong20:06
seb128but that's one of those toolkit weirdness20:07
seb128on that note time to call it a day20:08
seb128have good evening everyone20:08
Laneynn20:08
seb128see you tomorrow!20:08
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larsukenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/gsettings-qt/choices/+merge/17512120:09
larsukenvandine: I even added an example!!!!1111!!20:10
larsuand a test!20:10
kenvandinewoot20:10
kenvandinethanks!20:11
larsunot sure how we'd do range.... also with a list model?20:11
larsufor two numbers? That's a bit weird, isn't it?20:12
desrtcyphermox_: i'm on wifi on the tablet.  no crashes.20:33
cyphermox_desrt: sure20:34
desrtoh wait20:34
desrtall my networks just disappeared and came back20:34
desrtthat's the crash, i guess :)20:34
cyphermox_but if you go to the indicator and click the access point to "disable" it, and click it again, you'll see the list disappear20:34
cyphermox_yeah20:34
desrtyup.  got it.20:34
cyphermox_you can gdb chewie-network-server20:34
desrtnow i just need to figure out how to ssh to this thing20:34
cyphermox_adb shell20:35
desrtwoh20:35
desrtno shit20:35
desrtthat's awesome!!!20:35
cyphermox_it's a very basic serial console, if you resize it the scrolling might get broke20:35
cyphermox_just a heads-up for the vim fun that awaits you ;)20:36
desrti think i'll install openssh :p20:36
* desrt <3 openwrt20:37
desrti love how this works: ssh ubuntu-phablet.lan20:37
desrthahahahah20:42
desrt<- idiot20:42
desrt"let's use ssh to remote-debug the network indicator!"20:43
lifelessdesrt: doh!20:43
desrtcyphermox_: where do i get my phablet ddebs from?20:45
desrtis it on the ports server or at the normal url?20:45
desrtcyphermox_: sure seems to be a lot of this: ** (com.canonical.settings.network:3195): CRITICAL **: nm_active_connection_get_devices: assertion 'NM_IS_ACTIVE_CONNECTION (connection)' failed20:51
desrtof course, it doesn't crash under valgrind20:52
desrtbecause why would it :p20:52
cyphermox_heh20:55
cyphermox_desrt: depends which ddebs you want20:55
desrtuhm.... the correct ones, i suppose.20:56
cyphermox_you can just install network-manager-dbg if you need NM debug symbols20:56
cyphermox_libglib2.0-0-dbg as well20:56
desrtgot glib already20:56
cyphermox_I don't think there is a debug package for indicators-client/ indicator-network ready made, and as far as I know ddeb.ubuntu.com doesn't carry armhf ddebgs20:56
desrthopefully the nm stuff is good enough20:57
Laneyoh yes it does20:57
desrtLaney: hm?21:00
Laneyresponding to Mr. TL's last remark21:00
desrtLaney: so i tried to follow the normal ddebs instructions and i got a 404 on apt-get update21:02
cyphermox_Laney: ah, then I just wasn't lucky21:03
desrt#3  0x40097cfe in nm_active_connection_get_state (connection=0x0) at nm-active-connection.c:28921:03
desrtneat....21:03
desrtthat's even before the crash21:03
Laneydeb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ saucy main universe multiverse restricted should work21:03
cyphermox_Laney: every time I went to look for ddebs I didn't get any for armhf for the package I needed21:03
desrtLaney: ddebs?21:03
Laneyyes21:03
cyphermox_Laney: oh, on ports?21:03
Laneyno21:04
cyphermox_desrt: yeah, that's kind of weird21:04
Laneylaney@iota> grep ddeb .chdist/saucy/etc/apt/sources.list                                                                                   ~21:04
Laneydeb [arch=armhf] http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ saucy main universe multiverse restricted21:04
desrtk.  that helps, thanks.21:06
desrtawesome.  chewie lacks dbgsym21:07
desrtdue to being from the ppa21:07
* desrt just builds locally21:07
ogra_desrt, upload to the archive while youre at it :P21:07
cyphermox_haha :)21:09
desrtmy spidy sense is tingling....21:14
xnoxdesrt: ppas can get dbgsym packages enabled.21:40
xnoxdoesn't help in retrospect, but can help in the future =)21:40
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