[03:59] <roasted> attn: ubuntu gnome developers. I have a stupid yet serious question. I am getting a truckload of apport popups on 13.10. SHOULD I be reporting each and every single one? I feel like I get them even when the system is idle.
[03:59] <roasted> I don't want to overload the bug reporter with nonsense, but I also don't want to disregard apport if there are underlying bugs that might need eyes on them.
[04:00] <roasted> Just wanted to see what you guys thought so I could help to the best of my abilities. Thanks!
[04:12] <jbicha> roasted: there's 2 kinds of pop-ups, some open launchpad.net for you to report a bug, the others go to https://errors.ubuntu.com/ where they help developers see which crashes happen most often
[04:13] <jbicha> see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker
[04:14] <jbicha> in the future there might be a button in activity-log-manager to automatically send some of those reports which would be nicer
[04:15] <roasted> indeed
[04:15] <roasted> I just don't want you guys to be offing anything I submit if it's as irritating as spam in your email
[04:15] <roasted> but like I said, I hate to overlook things as an end user if it'll help.
[05:28] <gone> hey
[05:29] <gone> aneone here
[05:29] <gone> ?
[05:29] <gone> anyone *
[05:42] <darkxst> ricotz, gtk 3.9 is really broken in VMware ;(
[05:43] <ricotz> darkxst, huh, how so?
[05:44] <darkxst> X is booting into low graphics mode
[05:44] <darkxst> and then just a blank screen after that dialog.
[05:48] <ricotz> this doesnt sound like a gtk problem too me
[05:48] <darkxst> ricotz, it goes away as soon as I purge staging
[05:50] <darkxst> the X logs themselves seem fine
[05:51] <ricotz> i see, any crash reports or output in session.log
[05:53] <darkxst> I don't get as far as logging in
[05:54] <ricotz> what session are you trying to start?
[05:54] <ricotz> i guess GNOME
[05:56] <darkxst> tried both gdm and lightdm
[05:59] <ricotz> ok, so did you at their logs?
[05:59] <ricotz> e.g. /var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log
[06:01] <darkxst> gnome-session[1469]: Gdk-WARNING: gnome-session: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0
[06:04] <ricotz> /var/log/gdm/:0.log ?
[06:06] <darkxst> it was normal I believe
[06:06] <darkxst> I will check again in a min
[06:06] <ricotz> brb
[06:28] <darkxst> ricotz, I just tested in a new VM and its now working
[06:33] <ricotz> darkxst, good ;)
[10:17] <darkxst> ricotz, what would you suggest with gnome-bluetooth api break? build gnome-shell without it for now?
[10:21] <ricotz> darkxst, yes, you don't want to deal with bluz5
[10:22] <ricotz> darkxst, i am reverting two commits for that in my builds
[10:28] <darkxst> oh right, I see
[10:29] <darkxst> I suppose you revert commits before building git snapshots?
[10:51] <ricotz> darkxst, in this case, yes
[10:55] <darkxst> ok
[10:57] <ricotz> darkxst, i thought you were looking into other source while gnome-shell/mutter doesnt even need the newer gtk afaik
[11:09] <darkxst> to be honest I though there would be more deps on it, but at the same time, 3.8 is very buggy so...
[12:54] <wasanzy> I have ubuntu 13.04 and installed the Gnome desktop environment from the ubuntu software center, but when I go to extensions.gnome.org, I am told I don't have the latest gnome desktop installed so I can't install extensions, how can I solve that?
[12:56] <mgedmin> wasanzy, what browser do you use?
[12:57] <wasanzy> chromium
[12:57] <wasanzy> and also firefox
[12:57] <mgedmin> if I'm not mistaken, you get that error if your browser is missing the Gnome Shell Integration plugin (/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libgnome-shell-browser-plugin.so; both firefox and chromium ought to pick it up)
[12:57] <mgedmin> can you check with about:plugins that this plugin is enabled?
[12:58] <wasanzy> how can I check?
[12:58] <mgedmin> well, if it's listed somewhere on that page
[12:58] <wasanzy> on the about plugin? chromium or firefox?
[12:59] <mgedmin> both support about:plugins, IIRC
[12:59] <mgedmin> chromium definitely does (it changes the URL to chrome://plugins)
[13:00] <wasanzy> is enabled on chromium, checking firefox
[13:01] <mgedmin> okay, so it is enabled
[13:02] <mgedmin> then maybe you're trying to install an extension that wants gnome-shell 3.8?  ubuntu 13.04 ships gnome-shell 3.6
[13:02] <mgedmin> there's a PPA where you can get 3.8
[13:02] <mgedmin> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseNotes#Ubuntu_GNOME
[13:03] <mgedmin> (it has a link)
[13:03] <wasanzy> none of the extensions acutally allows me to install it
[13:03] <mgedmin> that is interesting
[13:04] <wasanzy> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 ?
[13:04] <mgedmin> FWIW I'm using ubuntu 13.04, with gnome-shell 3.8 (from that ppa, yes)
[13:04] <mgedmin> extensions work for me in chromium
[13:04] <wasanzy> ok
[13:52] <wasanzy> interestinly, after upgrading gnome, on the extensions page, no button is provided for me to install a plugin
[13:55] <mgedmin> the plugin is shipped in the distro, by the gnome-shell package
[13:55] <mgedmin> I wonder if you need to restart chromium after apt-get dist-upgrading gnome-shell... ?
[13:56] <wasanzy> I restarted the whole system
[15:16] <wasanzy> how do I get the list of extensions that are installed?
[15:35] <wasanzy> hello still not getting the extensions, how do I know the version of Gnome installed?
[21:01] <bennypr0fane> hello, updates is offering my an upgrade for Gnome shell: 3.8.2-1ubuntu2~raring1   installed version is: 3.8.2-1ubuntu2~raring2  is it just me, or is this actually a *downgrade*?
[21:10] <bennypr0fane> and should I do it? I may have triggered it by a manual apt-get update