[11:40] <jya_> hi there… How do I make the mythbuntu control centre install 0.27/master?
[11:43] <jya_> ah, was just a matter of pressing the refresh button, and fixing permission on ~/.mythbuntu
[14:12] <qwebirc29086> tgm4883: Any chance you could take a look at the comments in this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/1184643
[14:15] <tgm4883> qwebirc29086, what about it?
[14:15] <qwebirc29086> could my suggested solution in the last comment be made to the 13.04 upgrade process?  I've got a bunch more machines I'd like to test it on
[14:16] <tgm4883> I don't know if there is any functionality to ask that a package get removed
[14:17] <tgm4883> I'd also note that it's recommended to stay on LTS releases of Mythbuntu. If it's Ubuntu+MythTV, then pulseaudio is already installed
[14:18] <qwebirc29086> ah, I guess that's something I could look into (remove a package)
[14:19] <tgm4883> The only way I know of doing it is via conflicts. Which wouldn't be a good use here
[14:19] <qwebirc29086> I've upgraded some machines to get the latest kernel which fixes issues with the hdpvr
[14:19] <qwebirc29086> pulseaudio is the only issue I've hit, that's why I figured I'd be worth fixing
[14:20] <tgm4883> New kernels are available in 12.04
[14:20] <qwebirc29086> the 3.5 or 3.8 kernel?
[14:20] <tgm4883> There is actually quite a fair amount of work that takes place to make that happen
[14:21] <qwebirc29086> just figured it be a rule that would need to be changed....I've never looked at the internals of an upgrade
[14:26] <tgm4883> qwebirc29086, to answer your earlier question, yes, 3.5 and 3.8 are both in precise
[14:26] <qwebirc29086> oh....is it done through a ppa?
[14:26] <tgm4883> no
[14:26] <tgm4883> it's right in the repo
[14:27] <qwebirc29086> I didn't know that.....cool
[14:27] <tgm4883> yep, that is done for LTS releases
[14:27] <tgm4883> I forget the package name, it's something like linux-lts-raring or something like that
[14:28] <qwebirc29086> so I'm assuming the next LTS would be 14.04....what would be the plan for pulseaudio in that version?
[14:28] <tgm4883> qwebirc29086, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[14:29] <qwebirc29086> cool
[14:30] <tgm4883> I'm unsure what the plans would be. Most likely we'll stick with an XFCE base and only depend on what we need to. Pulseaudio will probably still not be supported by MythTV unless they (pulseaudio) fix a few showstoppers
[14:31] <qwebirc29086> I think all my boxes are on 12.10 now so I'm kinda stuck :)
[14:32] <qwebirc29086> so you'll need to make sure upgrades from 12.04 to 14.04 don't get pulseaudio right?  I think they will at this point.
[14:32] <tgm4883> That would be the plan, although I usually recommend a fresh install
[14:32] <qwebirc29086> Maybe it's worth just leaving the bug there as a reminder and I won't worry about 13.04 upgrades
[14:33] <qwebirc29086> I can just remove xfce4-volumed myself before the upgrades
[14:33] <tgm4883> yep, that should do it
[14:35] <qwebirc29086> thanks, do I need to do anything with the bug or will you just rename it or tag it or something?
[14:36] <tgm4883> I'll handle it
[14:37] <qwebirc29086> thanks for the help
[14:38] <tgm4883> yw