[09:19] <zzippy> Hi. Question. why isn't there a unity package anymore in x-staging PPA for raring?
[09:20] <zzippy> using PPA breaks unity in raring. have to use raring-proposed unity ..
[09:49] <mlankhorst> because the only reason the xorg-server package in raring still exists is so that you can ppa-purge it correctly :-)
[09:50] <mlankhorst> if you want it + updates, move to saucy
[10:02] <zzippy> mlankhorst: ok, but there are people out there not running a development version, they want 13.04 and X-server 1.14.x for using "optimus native" ;)
[10:04] <zzippy> it's just unnecessary to break somebody's system.
[10:06] <mlankhorst> that may be, but I didn't push the fixes to raring and I don't want to maintain it, so if you want the latest 1.14 upgrade to saucy
[10:10] <mlankhorst> but nothing prevents you from making your own ppa with all the fixes from saucy, could even be automated with backportpackage..
[10:11] <zzippy> ehrm, ok.
[10:25] <ricotz> mlankhorst, hi :)
[10:25] <mlankhorst> hey
[10:26] <ricotz> mlankhorst, just curious will wine 1.6 land in saucy? 
[10:26] <mlankhorst> ask yokozar
[10:26] <ricotz> ok
[15:20] <Sarvatt> hyperair: get ready for more bustage with edgers, intel guys saying it needs a 3.12 kernel over in #intel-gfx.... :)
[15:21] <hyperair> D=
[15:21] <hyperair> time to comment out the sources, i guess
[15:48] <ricotz> tseliot, hi :), this might be interesting for you https://launchpadlibrarian.net/145023470/nvidia-graphics-drivers-304_304.88-0ubuntu5_304.88-0ubuntu5%2Bxedgers~saucy1.diff.gz
[15:49] <tseliot> ricotz: oh, 3.11 already... thanks ;)
[15:50] <tseliot> finally a small diff
[15:50] <ricotz> tseliot, same for 325.08 so i guess this simple addition also works for 319.x
[15:51] <tseliot> right
[15:53] <ricotz> Sarvatt, uh, what needs 3.12 :\
[15:57] <Sarvatt> [10:49:27] <jbarnes> just recently updated to the 2.21.12 version of the DDX from edgers
[15:57] <Sarvatt> [10:49:35] <jbarnes> now I see all sorts of stale data getting blitted all over
[15:57] <Sarvatt> [10:49:43] <jbarnes> esp in claws with the tooltip windows
[15:57] <Sarvatt> [10:55:01] <jbarnes> I'm running a 3.9.0-rc3+ ish kernel
[15:57] <Sarvatt> [10:55:08] <ickle> you'll need something like 3.12 to have all known breakage fixed
[15:58] <Sarvatt> no problems here on 3.10 at least
[15:58] <Sarvatt> but i havent rebooted into the latest updates :)
[15:58] <ricotz> Sarvatt, oh, i noticed some small drawing issues, although running 3.11rc1
[21:59] <maxb> Given that a normal Ubuntu installation does without an /etc/X11/xorg.conf these days, what is the recommended way to set a single "Device" option? ("SWCursor" in my case) ?
[22:03] <Sarvatt> maxb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5882371/ as xorg.conf
[22:04] <maxb> thanks
[22:04] <Sarvatt> just guessing its radeon
[22:05] <maxb> It is a radeon card, I was just contemplating whether the Driver line needed to say "ati" or "radeon"
[22:05] <Sarvatt> ah its "SWcursor" if case matters